Re: [MBZ] cookies

2009-08-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Problem with cookies was that he was in everyones face and would always insult 
people. And he was always right.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

really, and who would be the annoying one these days?  Wacko?

relng...@aol.com wrote:
...Dang, Jabba, I had totally forgotten about cookies.  Wow, that does go back 
a long time...

   
He was one of the most annoying online at the time but these days he would be 
just a blip.

RLE
 
   

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Re: [MBZ] rust repairs

2009-08-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
If it's truly done right then it's as permanent as the factory made it but very 
few people know or care to do it right.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Even there you could probably keep replacing the metal, but would sure 
get expensive after a while...

It gets expensive immediately if it's done right. If a car is just a blivet 
it won't be worth it.

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Re: [MBZ] Death by Smart

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas

Sure it is.

--R

Craig McCluskey wrote:
  

But it's all about how you feel about it anyway, right?



Uhh ... no.


Craig


  

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[MBZ] What Have I Done?

2009-08-14 Thread Ken Rushing
Where is the crank position sensor on that car?  If you unplugged it
the ignition will be dead since it's waiting for the position sensor
signal.

I think it is on the backside of the engine up against the top end of the
transmission. I did unplug this from the back thinking it would need to be
disconnected to remove the transmission but it didn't so I reconnected it. I
don't see how I could have damaged it... I removed the small allen bolt and
lifted the plastic connection off. Underneath I noticed a small flat key
that fits into the plastic connection. When putting it back together I made
sure the flat key fit correctly in the plastic connection and installed the
allen bolt. This may be my problem but it seemed that I reinstalled the same
way it was removed. How could I test to see if I have messed this sensor up?
And where does the other side of this sensor connect to?
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[MBZ] This is a good deal

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas

I am not home now or I would go after this.


   SNAP-ON REFRIGERANT RECOVERY  RECYCLING CENTER - $250


http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1322541390.html


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Re: [MBZ] cookies

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON

Regardless of how wrong he was?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies


Problem with cookies was that he was in everyones face and would always 
insult people. And he was always right.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net 
wrote:


really, and who would be the annoying one these days?  Wacko?

relng...@aol.com wrote:
...Dang, Jabba, I had totally forgotten about cookies.  Wow, that does go 
back a long time...



He was one of the most annoying online at the time but these days he would 
be just a blip.


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[MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread Bill R
I know this has happened to others, but what a pain.  My dash gauges all
went dead [oil, fuel, tach, speedo, odo, plus blinkers and brakes].  I check
each fuse, spraying with cleaner and twisting, then put a continuity tester
on all of them, all were good.  I finally gave up and took it to my nephew's
shop.  He discovered it was a fuse that had corroded most of the contact
point, so it still showed continuity and power on testing, but being a 30
amp with all the turn signals, gauges and brakes on it the bad spots stopped
enough of the power that they didn't work, though it tested good.  

If it is an electrical problem, CHANGE THE FUSES [where have we heard that
before], even if they are 'good'.

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[MBZ] Kleb competition

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1321902780.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Kleb competition

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON

'Nother pity.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Kleb competition



http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1321902780.html

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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread Jim Cathey

He discovered it was a fuse that had corroded most of the contact
point, so it still showed continuity and power on testing, but being a 
30
amp with all the turn signals, gauges and brakes on it the bad spots 
stopped

enough of the power that they didn't work, though it tested good.


In such cases I like to use a Dremel wire brush to clean
up the contacts in the fuse block too.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley

Jim Cathey wrote:


In such cases I like to use a Dremel wire brush to clean
up the contacts in the fuse block too.


A wire brush on a bench grinder allows you to clean 50 of them in a few minutes.

When testing, sometimes it's better to voltmeter across the terminals. If you 
get more than a tenth of a volt, something's wrong.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley

Mitch Haley wrote:

Jim Cathey wrote:


In such cases I like to use a Dremel wire brush to clean
up the contacts in the fuse block too.


A wire brush on a bench grinder allows you to clean 50 of them in a few 
minutes.


The bench grinder was for wholesale cleaning of fuses. (which might be safer to 
replace). I didn't catch that JC was talking about the fuse holders at first.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] cookies

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON

Right

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies



No, he was wrong alright.  He just thought he was right.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:45 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Regardless of how wrong he was?

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dimitri Seretakis 
dsereta...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies


Problem with cookies was that he was in everyones face and would always 
insult people. And he was always right.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net 
wrote:


really, and who would be the annoying one these days?  Wacko?

relng...@aol.com wrote:
...Dang, Jabba, I had totally forgotten about cookies.  Wow, that does go 
back a long time...



He was one of the most annoying online at the time but these days he would 
be just a blip.


RLE



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[MBZ] 230 SL Head Gaskets

2009-08-14 Thread Richard Hattaway
I have several, and don't need em.  Would like to find them good homes.  You 
pay the shipping costs.  I would think $15 would be fair to ship in the 
country.  I don't want to get involved with shipping overseas unless it's dire 
need.  Let me know * OFF LIST * ( rhattaway at rocketmail dot com ) as I don't 
read all the posts.  Thanks.. Richard


  

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Re: [MBZ] first list

2009-08-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What are you talking about, I was asking Wacko how he would know, he was 
not around then.  Geez, learn to read woger.


relng...@aol.com wrote:

..How would you know?  You were not around then...


You moron. I was signed up on Dave's Realtime list before you showed up and 
I remember you then.


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Re: [MBZ] cookies

2009-08-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
No, he was wrong alright.  He just thought he was right.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:45 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Regardless of how wrong he was?

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies


Problem with cookies was that he was in everyones face and would always insult 
people. And he was always right.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

really, and who would be the annoying one these days?  Wacko?

relng...@aol.com wrote:
...Dang, Jabba, I had totally forgotten about cookies.  Wow, that does go back 
a long time...


He was one of the most annoying online at the time but these days he would be 
just a blip.

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Re: [MBZ] What Have I Done?

2009-08-14 Thread Hursley

Ken,

I am doing the same thing on my 190E2.3  --- replacing the cranshaft 
sensors.  I have 2 of them one behind the engine and the other is closed to 
the pulleys.  Do you just have one sensor?


K.S.

- Original Message - 
From: Ken Rushing ken.rush...@gmail.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: [MBZ] What Have I Done?



Where is the crank position sensor on that car?  If you unplugged it
the ignition will be dead since it's waiting for the position sensor
signal.

I think it is on the backside of the engine up against the top end of the
transmission. I did unplug this from the back thinking it would need to be
disconnected to remove the transmission but it didn't so I reconnected it. 
I
don't see how I could have damaged it... I removed the small allen bolt 
and

lifted the plastic connection off. Underneath I noticed a small flat key
that fits into the plastic connection. When putting it back together I 
made
sure the flat key fit correctly in the plastic connection and installed 
the
allen bolt. This may be my problem but it seemed that I reinstalled the 
same
way it was removed. How could I test to see if I have messed this sensor 
up?

And where does the other side of this sensor connect to?
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Re: [MBZ] cookies

2009-08-14 Thread Rusty Cullens

No, left.

Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
Tel 1-800-741-5252
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- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies



Right

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies



No, he was wrong alright.  He just thought he was right.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2009, at 9:45 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Regardless of how wrong he was?

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dimitri Seretakis 
dsereta...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies


Problem with cookies was that he was in everyones face and would always 
insult people. And he was always right.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net 
wrote:


really, and who would be the annoying one these days?  Wacko?

relng...@aol.com wrote:
...Dang, Jabba, I had totally forgotten about cookies.  Wow, that does go 
back a long time...



He was one of the most annoying online at the time but these days he 
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[MBZ] Nice SL on CL

2009-08-14 Thread Donald Snook
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1322440041.html

No affiliation.  Not mine, etc.


Donald H. Snook
1997 Mercury Grand Marquis Gipper 2001 Ford Expedition Wife's Car
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[MBZ] Cheap 240D on CL in Springfield, MO

2009-08-14 Thread Donald Snook
http://springfield.craigslist.org/ctd/1309031109.html


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread archer


He discovered it was a fuse that had corroded most of the contact point, 
so it still showed continuity and power on testing, but being a 30 amp 
with all the turn signals, gauges and brakes on it the bad spots stopped 
enough of the power that they didn't work, though it tested good.
--- 

In such cases I like to use a Dremel wire brush to clean
up the contacts in the fuse block too.
-- Jim

---
Since the porcelain bodies of the fuse are still good, it would seem that 
the fusible metal strips would be available someplace without buying the 
whole fuse?


P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer?  Flukes are 
available for around $100 but I seem to remember a discussion about cheaper 
ones that also worked well.

Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] pics of Mogthra in CA

2009-08-14 Thread tyler
There's a lot of myths and mis-information about Mercedes diesels. 
Marshall could cut through all of that junk, because his knowledge was 
from firsthand experience, critical thinking, and performing experiments 
on his own cars.


I don't know where I'd be maintaining my 190DT without being able to 
search Marshalls posts. For one, I'd be trying to keep the oil full and 
REALLY frustrated about constant oil leaks and high consumption. With 
his let it seek it's own oil level my 230k mile engine doesn't leak a 
drop, and burns only about a quart every 10,000 miles!


Tyler

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

yes, he did.  Jaime thought he knew everything about mb diesels.

Allan Streib wrote:
Jaime kicked *Marshall Booth* off of a DieselTech list.  That makes 
sense.  Yeah.



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[MBZ] W126 Bmupers and Chrome.

2009-08-14 Thread Angelo Giaimo
Hi,

What's the market for front and rear bumper covers and Chrome for a 1990
W126.  Seems the paint job I had a few years ago failed and I'm getting a
free repaint, including addtional rust repair, which was guaranteed, and the
option of replacing the bumper covers and/or chrome, now that they're
showing serious rust.Still got to pay for them, though.  I understand
they rust alot and are hard to get apart.  Anything else to look out for?

Thanks,

Angelo
1990 350SDL Rodbender 272K miles and still ticking.
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Re: [MBZ] pics of Mogthra in CA

2009-08-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, tylercasi...@usermail.com wrote:
 There's a lot of myths and mis-information about Mercedes diesels. Marshall
 could cut through all of that junk, because his knowledge was from firsthand
 experience, critical thinking, and performing experiments on his own cars.


Very well said.  I think of him as the quintessential scientist,
passionately collecting data in order to make the most informed
synthesis of it that he could.  Who among us even knew what a
tribologist was the first time we saw the word, let alone is able to
say that he to not one but several in order to determine what was
really in all the different oils on the market and thus which one was
the best for Benz diesels?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] This is a good deal

2009-08-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Rich
Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
   SNAP-ON REFRIGERANT RECOVERY  RECYCLING CENTER - $250
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1322541390.html


Oh man, that's a great deal.  I'd go for that if it were near me, too.
 If you had a couple of R12 cars (like I do) that would pay for itself
in short order.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON

'Guess I'll hafta let it go - too much black.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL



http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/1322440041.html

No affiliation.  Not mine, etc.


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Re: [MBZ] How best to mothball a diesel engine

2009-08-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
Thanks.  I have since learned that the hood is still intact, and the  engine
is as  'eft

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 The hood is definitely gone.  If I can bar it over does this mean
 everything is still OK?


 Chances are a lot higher.  Were the injector lines removed
 from the top of the IP so that either the IP or the injectors
 themselves were directly exposed to the rain?  That would
 be Bad.

 -- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] most annoying

2009-08-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
There's something missing in this trade of insults, such as how did it get
it started?.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Take your best shot.

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

   ..really, and who would be the annoying one these days?  Wacko?..
  
  I would call this a golden opportunity.
 
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Re: [MBZ] How best to mothball a diesel engine

2009-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Thanks.  I have since learned that the hood is still intact, and the  engine
is as  'eft


Is there enough electrical stuff still there that you can hook up a battery and 
run the starter?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] most annoying

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON

Can't we all just get along?   ;))

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] most annoying



There's something missing in this trade of insults, such as how did it get
it started?.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Take your best shot.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  ..really, and who would be the annoying one these days?  Wacko?..
 
 I would call this a golden opportunity.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL

2009-08-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 'Guess I'll hafta let it go - too much black.

I like it--- I think the black paint and the wheels (16-inchers off an
early W140 or late W126, I think?) help the big DOT bumpers blend in
to the body.  It looks rather sinister compared to most R107s.  Snook
should pick it up---might help intimidate prosecuting attorneys and
give him an edge. ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL

2009-08-14 Thread tyler

I like it also. Personally, I think all Mercedes look best in black!

Tyler

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  

'Guess I'll hafta let it go - too much black.



I like it--- I think the black paint and the wheels (16-inchers off an
early W140 or late W126, I think?) help the big DOT bumpers blend in
to the body.  It looks rather sinister compared to most R107s.  Snook
should pick it up---might help intimidate prosecuting attorneys and
give him an edge. ;)

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Since the porcelain bodies of the fuse are still good, it would seem 
that the fusible metal strips would be available someplace without 
buying the whole fuse?


No.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread tyler
I've been known to replace them with a strip of aluminum foil in an 
emergency. The strip needs to be wider to blow at the same level of 
current draw, since the foil is so thin. Even better is just taking a 
handful of spares from a junkyard.


I like to coat the ends in di-electric grease, which seems to eliminate 
corrosion issues permanently.


Tyler

archer wrote:
Since the porcelain bodies of the fuse are still good, it would seem 
that the fusible metal strips would be available someplace without 
buying the whole fuse?


P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer?  Flukes are 
available for around $100 but I seem to remember a discussion about 
cheaper ones that also worked well.

Thanks,
Gerry


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[MBZ] OT storms

2009-08-14 Thread R A Bennell
Got hailed upon last night about 3 AM. Three of our vehicles were parked on the 
front street - my wife's Honda, my
truck and my son's truck. All have dents. What a pain in the you know what. 
Maybe the roofs on the house and garage
too. Ugh! Went throught that about 10 or 12 years ago. Old MB was in the garage 
so no harm to it.

A friend who lives about 3 blocks from my house said he saw hail stones as big 
as oranges in his back yard. His
Town Car was exposed and got damaged which does not please him as he has it 
advertised for sale right now.

I also hear that we did not get the worst of it. The stones were apparently 
bigger about 15 miles SE of here.

Wild light show and thunder for a couple of hours and really rained hard for a 
while too.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON
Me, too, but I've had a helluva time keeping mine ('91 350SDL) 
presentable.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL



I like it also. Personally, I think all Mercedes look best in black!

Tyler

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'Guess I'll hafta let it go - too much black.



I like it--- I think the black paint and the wheels (16-inchers off an
early W140 or late W126, I think?) help the big DOT bumpers blend in
to the body.  It looks rather sinister compared to most R107s.  Snook
should pick it up---might help intimidate prosecuting attorneys and
give him an edge. ;)

Alex


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[MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread R A Bennell
Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's girlfriend 
has a Honda Civic with really foggy
looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a lost cause?

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread Kevin
Over a long enough period of time, yes. Something arguably worth doing if
you're going to sell it. There's kits that do it, but I never thought it was
worth the hassle on my 94 crown vic.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:25:58PM -0500, R A Bennell wrote:
 Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's 
 girlfriend has a Honda Civic with really foggy
 looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a lost cause?

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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread R A Bennell
The kits that I have seen appear to be some smooth wet sandpaper and polishing 
compound. I assume one might just
use a drill or an air die grinder with a felt doodad and some different 
polishing compounds. Don't want to get the
plastic too warm but apart from that I assume it might not be too difficult to 
at least improve it. Unless of
course, the problem is on the inside. Not sure I want to try to disassmble the 
light itself.

Randy

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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights


Over a long enough period of time, yes. Something arguably worth doing if
you're going to sell it. There's kits that do it, but I never thought it was
worth the hassle on my 94 crown vic.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:25:58PM -0500, R A Bennell wrote:
 Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's 
 girlfriend has a Honda Civic with really
foggy
 looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a lost cause?

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Re: [MBZ] annoying

2009-08-14 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Take your best shot...
 
Didn't mean you although.

Many candidates, ectually. I've worked at it also.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas

Let me know when you want me to come get it, I'll alleviate your problems.

2 weeks ago I was cycling, and saw a 350SDL pass me, I went into our 
little local shopping area and the guy was just gettitng out of it.  We 
chatted a few minutes, he had bought it in Nawlins a year or two before 
Katrina, and had a respray on it.  It was that gold color, like my son's 
SD, looked pretty nice.  He really liked it.  A little after I saw a 
black one go by, will have to find out who belongs to it.


--R

WILTON wrote:
Me, too, but I've had a helluva time keeping mine ('91 350SDL) 
presentable.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: tyler casi...@usermail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL



I like it also. Personally, I think all Mercedes look best in black!

Tyler

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'Guess I'll hafta let it go - too much black.



I like it--- I think the black paint and the wheels (16-inchers off an
early W140 or late W126, I think?) help the big DOT bumpers blend in
to the body.  It looks rather sinister compared to most R107s.  Snook
should pick it up---might help intimidate prosecuting attorneys and
give him an edge. ;)

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] Cookies

2009-08-14 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Regardless of how wrong he was?..
 
Have you seen that stop anybody??

RLE
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT storms

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Those paintless dent removal guys can do a pretty decent job working 
those kind of dings out, your ins might cover it.  You'll probably need 
to get in line though.


Where do you live?

--R

R A Bennell wrote:

Got hailed upon last night about 3 AM. Three of our vehicles were parked on the 
front street - my wife's Honda, my
truck and my son's truck. All have dents. What a pain in the you know what. 
Maybe the roofs on the house and garage
too. Ugh! Went throught that about 10 or 12 years ago. Old MB was in the garage 
so no harm to it.

A friend who lives about 3 blocks from my house said he saw hail stones as big 
as oranges in his back yard. His
Town Car was exposed and got damaged which does not please him as he has it 
advertised for sale right now.

I also hear that we did not get the worst of it. The stones were apparently 
bigger about 15 miles SE of here.

Wild light show and thunder for a couple of hours and really rained hard for a 
while too.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, start with some wet/dry and go to like 3000 or 6000 grit, then 
buff up with some polish (or toothpaste )  They do have kits in the auto 
stores, but it probably just aggregates that kind of stuff.


--R

R A Bennell wrote:

The kits that I have seen appear to be some smooth wet sandpaper and polishing 
compound. I assume one might just
use a drill or an air die grinder with a felt doodad and some different 
polishing compounds. Don't want to get the
plastic too warm but apart from that I assume it might not be too difficult to 
at least improve it. Unless of
course, the problem is on the inside. Not sure I want to try to disassmble the 
light itself.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights


Over a long enough period of time, yes. Something arguably worth doing if
you're going to sell it. There's kits that do it, but I never thought it was
worth the hassle on my 94 crown vic.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:25:58PM -0500, R A Bennell wrote:
  

Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's girlfriend 
has a Honda Civic with really


foggy
  

looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a lost cause?



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Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON
Thanks, but I guess I'll continue to try to suffer through it.  Only 195 
kmi on it.  Again, that is one fine driving/riding machine.;


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL



Let me know when you want me to come get it, I'll alleviate your problems.

2 weeks ago I was cycling, and saw a 350SDL pass me, I went into our 
little local shopping area and the guy was just gettitng out of it.  We 
chatted a few minutes, he had bought it in Nawlins a year or two before 
Katrina, and had a respray on it.  It was that gold color, like my son's 
SD, looked pretty nice.  He really liked it.  A little after I saw a black 
one go by, will have to find out who belongs to it.


--R

WILTON wrote:
Me, too, but I've had a helluva time keeping mine ('91 350SDL) 
presentable.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: tyler casi...@usermail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice SL on CL



I like it also. Personally, I think all Mercedes look best in black!

Tyler

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:16 AM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'Guess I'll hafta let it go - too much black.



I like it--- I think the black paint and the wheels (16-inchers off an
early W140 or late W126, I think?) help the big DOT bumpers blend in
to the body.  It looks rather sinister compared to most R107s.  Snook
should pick it up---might help intimidate prosecuting attorneys and
give him an edge. ;)

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON

Aggregates?  Is some of that stuff left over from concrete?   ;

Wilton

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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights


Yeah, start with some wet/dry and go to like 3000 or 6000 grit, then buff 
up with some polish (or toothpaste )  They do have kits in the auto 
stores, but it probably just aggregates that kind of stuff.


--R

R A Bennell wrote:
The kits that I have seen appear to be some smooth wet sandpaper and 
polishing compound. I assume one might just
use a drill or an air die grinder with a felt doodad and some different 
polishing compounds. Don't want to get the
plastic too warm but apart from that I assume it might not be too 
difficult to at least improve it. Unless of
course, the problem is on the inside. Not sure I want to try to 
disassmble the light itself.


Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights


Over a long enough period of time, yes. Something arguably worth doing if
you're going to sell it. There's kits that do it, but I never thought it 
was

worth the hassle on my 94 crown vic.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:25:58PM -0500, R A Bennell wrote:

Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's 
girlfriend has a Honda Civic with really



foggy

looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a lost 
cause?




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Re: [MBZ] lens fogging

2009-08-14 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's 
 girlfriend has a Honda Civic with really foggy looking headlights. I wonder 
 about polishing them or are they a lost cause?..
 
Somebody makes a kit just for this. Probably any auto parts store carries 
them. The 210 has this problem bigtime but I think MB has specified a better 
material lately.

RLE 
 
 

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[MBZ] it never fails

2009-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond
I#39;m headed out camping tonight and while prepping the 190D I notice a pool 
of diesel. The fuel line from the inline filter has rubbed on the air filter 
housing enough to have a fairly sizeable hole. Fortunately I had some fuel line 
hanging around I could sub in...

Quick fix but annoying.

-Curt


  

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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas

Yeah, the fine stuff.

--R

WILTON wrote:

Aggregates?  Is some of that stuff left over from concrete?   ;

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights


Yeah, start with some wet/dry and go to like 3000 or 6000 grit, then 
buff up with some polish (or toothpaste )  They do have kits in the 
auto stores, but it probably just aggregates that kind of stuff.


--R

R A Bennell wrote:
The kits that I have seen appear to be some smooth wet sandpaper and 
polishing compound. I assume one might just
use a drill or an air die grinder with a felt doodad and some 
different polishing compounds. Don't want to get the
plastic too warm but apart from that I assume it might not be too 
difficult to at least improve it. Unless of
course, the problem is on the inside. Not sure I want to try to 
disassmble the light itself.


Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights


Over a long enough period of time, yes. Something arguably worth 
doing if
you're going to sell it. There's kits that do it, but I never 
thought it was

worth the hassle on my 94 crown vic.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 02:25:58PM -0500, R A Bennell wrote:

Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's 
girlfriend has a Honda Civic with really



foggy

looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a 
lost cause?




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[MBZ] Power antenna relay on 1985 300CD?

2009-08-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
I am getting no power to the power antenna on the 1985 300CD.  The radio
works and I swapped out the antenna switches - no effect.  All other
electrical functions are good, so it isn't a fuse.  The schematic shows an
antenna motor/relay downstream of the fuse box but I can't find this part
on ebay or in any of the online catalogs, let alone deduce where to find it
in the car!  Has anyone ever replaced one of these to solve similar symptoms
(dead antenna)?
Thanks again,

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] OT storms

2009-08-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
Randy is in Winnipeg, of  course.
Don't know about the feasibility of popping out grapefruit-sized dents.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Those paintless dent removal guys can do a pretty decent job working those
 kind of dings out, your ins might cover it.  You'll probably need to get in
 line though.

 Where do you live?

 --R


 R A Bennell wrote:

 Got hailed upon last night about 3 AM. Three of our vehicles were parked
 on the front street - my wife's Honda, my
 truck and my son's truck. All have dents. What a pain in the you know
 what. Maybe the roofs on the house and garage
 too. Ugh! Went throught that about 10 or 12 years ago. Old MB was in the
 garage so no harm to it.

 A friend who lives about 3 blocks from my house said he saw hail stones as
 big as oranges in his back yard. His
 Town Car was exposed and got damaged which does not please him as he has
 it advertised for sale right now.

 I also hear that we did not get the worst of it. The stones were
 apparently bigger about 15 miles SE of here.

 Wild light show and thunder for a couple of hours and really rained hard
 for a while too.

 Randy


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Re: [MBZ] electric cars - was Cash for clunkers hits home

2009-08-14 Thread Fmiser
 R A Bennell wrote:

 No one seems to make any comments on these issues. It is all
 about the environment and the utopian dream that we can carry
 on without polluting anything. Nothing practical ever
 mentioned.

Unless the electric generating is pollution-free, the pollution
is just moved.  Now, in the LA CA bowl, there is some merit to
that. Otherwise, the typical modern automobile engine is way
cleaner than the coal fired electric plant.

Now if we could get some fusion plants online

 Also have to wonder what happens when a couple of hundred
 thousand people plug their car in at night. Does the power go
 off all over or just in some areas? Do you have to shut off
 your house AC so you can charge up the family buggy?

Actually, if there are only plugged in a night, it could be
_helpful_.  One of the challenges of electric generating is
coping with peak load.  It takes days for a coal-fired plant to
turn on. That is of no use when we need more generating capacity
for the 6PM peak.  Nuclear fission is even slower, I think..
(Don't know about fusion - still very new). Natural gas can come
on line in a hour, as I recall.  So coal and fission are used
for baseline.  Wind is - well, variable. But I'd guess that if
you really had more capacity than load those windmill generators
can turn on and off fairly quickly.

Anyway, if we can shift _any_ energy use to the deep off-peak
time, then more of the higher-efficiency, slow-start generators
can supply the power.

Out here in the country, the electric company gives away
dusk-to-dawn lights (but the user pays for the electricity) to
help create some load during the night. I'm guessing it's less
important now than when the program started in the days before
air-conditioning. 

--Philip

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[MBZ] Baggage

2009-08-14 Thread RELNGSON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo
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Re: [MBZ] Power antenna relay on 1985 300CD?

2009-08-14 Thread Jim Cathey
antenna motor/relay downstream of the fuse box but I can't find this 
part
on ebay or in any of the online catalogs, let alone deduce where to 
find it

in the car!


There is no relay.  There is the antenna.  Many parts suppliers
call anything of moderate size in a box a 'relay'.  It's easy
to check the connector pins at the relay for power, etc.  At
that vintage, the innards are purely electromechanical, so
open 'er up and have a look if the connector checks out.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Power antenna relay on 1985 300CD?

2009-08-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
It just occurred me that perhaps the power cord to the antenna had slipped
out of the back of the radio (bayonet connection).  Wouldn't that be a
pleasant surprise!

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 antenna motor/relay downstream of the fuse box but I can't find this part
 on ebay or in any of the online catalogs, let alone deduce where to find
 it
 in the car!


 There is no relay.  There is the antenna.  Many parts suppliers
 call anything of moderate size in a box a 'relay'.  It's easy
 to check the connector pins at the relay for power, etc.  At
 that vintage, the innards are purely electromechanical, so
 open 'er up and have a look if the connector checks out.

 -- Jim



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[MBZ] Older

2009-08-14 Thread Peter T. Arnold
Our 1960 Falcon was galvanized.  Ford had difficulty with everything of 
that POS car.  My Dad had one, it was real crap and even refused to rust 
to death!


--

Pete Arnold

When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life.

You regret the things you didn't do.




tyler wrote:
True, I didn't think about that! Of course, that can also be an issue 
of maintenance and build quality. I've heard that Volvo 9 series are 
galvanized before they're painted and don't really rust...


Tyler

Rick Knoble wrote:

--
From: Tyler casi...@usermail.com
Also, cars don't actually ever have to be replaced all at once. A 
car  is just a collection of parts which wear out at different rates 
and  times- a car can be maintained indefinitely by replacing parts 
as they  wear out. The car can work great the whole time, but 
presumably  eventually have none of it's original parts left. People 
replace cars  because they want to, not because they have to- and it 
almost never  makes financial sense to do so. Look at taxis in very 
poor countries  for a good example of this!


Obviously you do NOT live in the rust belt. :)

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 240D on CL in Springfield, MO

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON
You know you want it, Kaleb, go ahead and write 'im a check for $500. 
;)


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 240D on CL in Springfield, MO



cheap?

Donald Snook wrote:

http://springfield.craigslist.org/ctd/1309031109.html


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter

2009-08-14 Thread Fmiser
 archer wrote:

 P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer?
 Flukes are available for around $100 but I seem to remember a
 discussion about cheaper ones that also worked well.

The good ones have the option to change the emissivity setting.
I have a cheap one, a Raytech minitemp that is preset to 0.95
emissivity only. That means if what I'm pointing it at is not
flat black (to IR), the reading could be off.

A laser guide point can be helpful. Mine does not have that
feature - but I'm usually looking for either the warmest or the
coldest temp so I just move it around until I see a peak or dip.

Mine can switch from F to C with a slide switch next to the
battery.

Oh, distance to spot ratio is another variable. Many of the
small ones are like 4:1 - which means if you want to measure a
small spot you have to get the thermometer close. My Raytech is
10:1, which is pretty decent in my experience.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread Scott Ritchey
I tried a kit (from Wal-Mart, I Think) on our 86 Ford.  The lights were
noticeably dimmer and it helped a little.  Maybe other kits are better but
it seemed some of the problem was on the inside.

Scott

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Subject: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's
girlfriend has a Honda Civic with really foggy
looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a lost cause?

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter

2009-08-14 Thread Scott Ritchey
I have a cheapie (like $20 with laser) from Harbor Freight that has always
worked pretty well for me except on galvanized metal (flu pipe) where it
read the surface reflected from the galv.  Probably other shiny metals would
do the same thing.  So I stuck a piece of tape on the pipe and read that.

Scott

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On Behalf Of Fmiser
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 18:04
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter

 archer wrote:

 P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer?
 Flukes are available for around $100 but I seem to remember a
 discussion about cheaper ones that also worked well.

The good ones have the option to change the emissivity setting.
I have a cheap one, a Raytech minitemp that is preset to 0.95
emissivity only. That means if what I'm pointing it at is not
flat black (to IR), the reading could be off.

A laser guide point can be helpful. Mine does not have that
feature - but I'm usually looking for either the warmest or the
coldest temp so I just move it around until I see a peak or dip.

Mine can switch from F to C with a slide switch next to the
battery.

Oh, distance to spot ratio is another variable. Many of the
small ones are like 4:1 - which means if you want to measure a
small spot you have to get the thermometer close. My Raytech is
10:1, which is pretty decent in my experience.

--Philip

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[MBZ] is this some sort of rare in the USA gray market car?

2009-08-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin



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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread MG

Gerry,

The Harbor Freight store in Gainesville has one on sale right now 
for $9.99 till Aug 24th. Don't know how good they are but at that 
price I guess it could be worth a try. You can always take it 
back if you don't like it. They are real good about that.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:00:44 -0400
From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dang.  It was one of the 'good' fuses.


P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer?  Flukes are
available for around $100 but I seem to remember a discussion 
about cheaper

ones that also worked well.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] cookies

2009-08-14 Thread OK Don
Cookies was a commie?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.comwrote:

 No, left.

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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread OK Don
I got some lens polishing compoound from Autozone in a small tube. It's
probably nothing special, but I didn't have any thing else at home, so
bought it. It did a credible job on the very foggy headlight lenses on our
'97 van - they are not totally clear, but the light output is noticably
greater.


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Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter

2009-08-14 Thread OK Don
I got mine at Sears on sale a few years ago - it's OK, but nothing special.
Seems like it was around $50.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I have a cheapie (like $20 with laser) from Harbor Freight that has always
 worked pretty well for me except on galvanized metal (flu pipe) where it
 read the surface reflected from the galv.  Probably other shiny metals
 would
 do the same thing.  So I stuck a piece of tape on the pipe and read that.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Fmiser
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 18:04
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter

  archer wrote:

  P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer?
  Flukes are available for around $100 but I seem to remember a
  discussion about cheaper ones that also worked well.

 The good ones have the option to change the emissivity setting.
 I have a cheap one, a Raytech minitemp that is preset to 0.95
 emissivity only. That means if what I'm pointing it at is not
 flat black (to IR), the reading could be off.

 A laser guide point can be helpful. Mine does not have that
 feature - but I'm usually looking for either the warmest or the
 coldest temp so I just move it around until I see a peak or dip.

 Mine can switch from F to C with a slide switch next to the
 battery.

 Oh, distance to spot ratio is another variable. Many of the
 small ones are like 4:1 - which means if you want to measure a
 small spot you have to get the thermometer close. My Raytech is
 10:1, which is pretty decent in my experience.

 --Philip

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[MBZ] Repair advice needed

2009-08-14 Thread Donald Snook
My grand marquis is overheating. I was on the highway and when I  
accelerated hard it starting pinging and then I noticed it was getting  
hot. I turned on the heat to see if I could cut down on the temp.
Well, it wasn't blowing hot air so I thought it was the thermostat. I  
just replaced it and it is still getting into the red. In fact, it is  
getting hot enough it is steaming up.  So here's my question: what  
else could it be?  I thought it might be the radiator and the side by  
the thermostat is very hot and the other side is pretty cool.
Does that sound like the radiator?
Please cc my email directly because I am on digest and won't get any  
emails until the digest is full.
Thanks,

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Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed

2009-08-14 Thread Kevin
My 94 was a pain to bleed all of the air out of if you followed the factory
procedure. Going old school of letting it open the thermostat, run for a 
while to get the air out, and topping it off worked.

The 4.6 seems to have a propensity for holding air pockets in the coolant quite
well, and for its first few years, had a propensity for cracking heads. 
What a fun combination. :-/

My 94 had its original radiator when it was sold with over 260k original
miles.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Donald Snook wrote:
 My grand marquis is overheating. I was on the highway and when I  
 accelerated hard it starting pinging and then I noticed it was getting  
 hot. I turned on the heat to see if I could cut down on the temp.
 Well, it wasn't blowing hot air so I thought it was the thermostat. I  
 just replaced it and it is still getting into the red. In fact, it is  
 getting hot enough it is steaming up.  So here's my question: what  
 else could it be?  I thought it might be the radiator and the side by  
 the thermostat is very hot and the other side is pretty cool.
 Does that sound like the radiator?
 Please cc my email directly because I am on digest and won't get any  
 emails until the digest is full.

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Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed

2009-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley

Donald Snook wrote:
My grand marquis is overheating. 


My first thought when turning the heat on doesn't work is uh-oh, I'm out of 
coolant


That would also explain the radiator being cold on the outlet side, too little 
coolant flow. Let's take lack of coolant flow as a given. I can come up with 
three explanations.
I'm thinking it's either your WP, coolant level, or t-stat. But if your t-stat 
were stuck shut with good water pump and coolant level, the heat should be able 
to melt your dashboard.


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Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed

2009-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley

Kevin wrote:
My 94 was a pain to bleed all of the air out 


OK, four reasons why you might not be circulating water. And this one is likely 
if you recently drained the system.


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[MBZ] 380 SL

2009-08-14 Thread Jim Cathey

I just picked up the 380SL from the paint repair guy.
Looks pretty good for $300.  No, the new paint is not
perfect, but neither is the part he didn't do.  For
that money I got the trunk lid and horse collar repainted,
the rust behind the fuel door repaired (glass) and repainted,
the hood blister repainted, and the peeling paint on the
driver's door repainted.  And there's a bit of leftover
color-matched (no code) paint to use as touch-up.  (It
was $65 for the pint.)  This guy specializes in good-enough
paint repair, works out of his garage in 'felony flats'.

The trunk is nice and shiny now, the car really looks
pretty good overall.  Just need to install the new
soft top, and deal with the one head gasket.  (I hope,
I hope!)  Then I either sell it, or send it off to
Arizona with my snowbird father.  Either way, out of
my wife's sight!

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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread archer
Thanks, Manfred.  Gainesville is out of my range for now but I did find one 
for $29.99 on the Harbor Freight website.  I think that might have been the 
one several members bought.

Gerry
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Gerry,
The Harbor Freight store in Gainesville has one on sale right now
for $9.99 till Aug 24th. Don't know how good they are but at that
price I guess it could be worth a try. You can always take it
back if you don't like it. They are real good about that.
Manfred

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:00:44 -0400
From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com
P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer?  Flukes are
available for around $100 but I seem to remember a discussion
about cheaper
ones that also worked well.
Thanks,
Gerry

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[MBZ] OT Wilton -- they need you again

2009-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13639_3-10309377-42.html

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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread Frederick W Moir

Grretings and Salutations, All.
In the U.K. in the '60's you could, indeed, get a box of metal form 
fuses to replace the burned through part on the ceramic body. Long 
gone now, of course. Just like the early days, a fuse kit was a 
card with several gauges of  wire, a glass tube, some metal end caps 
and a file-cum-glass cutter thing. Roll your own!

God, I'm gettin' olde.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
'87 190DT Bent
'87 190DT Blue
'85 300TD Sunshine.

At 02:30 PM 8/14/2009, you wrote:
Since the porcelain bodies of the fuse are still good, it would 
seem that the fusible metal strips would be available someplace 
without buying the whole fuse?

No.
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Re: [MBZ] OT polishing plastic lights

2009-08-14 Thread Barry Stark
Randy -
Check out U-tube for headlight polishing

Barry

 
 Anyone with experience in polishing up plastic headlights? My son's
 girlfriend has a Honda Civic with really foggy
 looking headlights. I wonder about polishing them or are they a lost
 cause?
 
 Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed

2009-08-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Sounds like a blown head gasket to me.

Donald Snook wrote:
My grand marquis is overheating. I was on the highway and when I  
accelerated hard it starting pinging and then I noticed it was getting  
hot. I turned on the heat to see if I could cut down on the temp.
Well, it wasn't blowing hot air so I thought it was the thermostat. I  
just replaced it and it is still getting into the red. In fact, it is  
getting hot enough it is steaming up.  So here's my question: what  
else could it be?  I thought it might be the radiator and the side by  
the thermostat is very hot and the other side is pretty cool.

Does that sound like the radiator?
Please cc my email directly because I am on digest and won't get any  
emails until the digest is full.

Thanks,

Donald H Snook
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(316) 263-5851
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Re: [MBZ] 380 SL

2009-08-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

geez

Jim Cathey wrote:

I just picked up the 380SL from the paint repair guy.
Looks pretty good for $300.  No, the new paint is not
perfect, but neither is the part he didn't do.  For
that money I got the trunk lid and horse collar repainted,
the rust behind the fuel door repaired (glass) and repainted,
the hood blister repainted, and the peeling paint on the
driver's door repainted.  And there's a bit of leftover
color-matched (no code) paint to use as touch-up.  (It
was $65 for the pint.)  This guy specializes in good-enough
paint repair, works out of his garage in 'felony flats'.

The trunk is nice and shiny now, the car really looks
pretty good overall.  Just need to install the new
soft top, and deal with the one head gasket.  (I hope,
I hope!)  Then I either sell it, or send it off to
Arizona with my snowbird father.  Either way, out of
my wife's sight!

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Re: [MBZ] OT Wilton -- they need you again

2009-08-14 Thread WILTON

'Wouldn't mind working on that.

Wilton

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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

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Subject: [MBZ] OT Wilton -- they need you again



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--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT Wilton -- they need you again

2009-08-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
I think we have our pilot and he'd probably do the gig pro bono, or at least
for scale.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13639_3-10309377-42.html

 --R

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The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and
confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their
own ways.
-- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger.
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Re: [MBZ] cookies

2009-08-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
Who left?

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:39 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cookies was a commie?

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com
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  No, left.
 
  Rusty Cullens
 
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  OK Don
  Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.

2009-08-14 Thread Fmiser
 tyler wrote:

 I like to coat the ends in di-electric grease, which seems to
 eliminate corrosion issues permanently.

Doesn't have to be di-electric grease. Wheel bearing grease,
white grease, whatever.  The grease keeps the air away so
there's no oxidation. The metals make enough contact for
electricity to flow.  I do that to practically all automotive
electrical connections from headlights to the battery terminals. 

--   Philip

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[MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-14 Thread Fmiser
Speaking of wheel bearing grease

Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g
tube?  Like a tube of it?  Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or
something) and is available as a different part number like the
coolant is?

Or am I stuck buying a stack of tubes?

--   Philip

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