[MBZ] Subject: Re: 95 s350d

[W140]

* I have a 1992 300SD/S350 W140 with 1999 Factory crated "Zero" time 
engine.  It works like a swiss watch...What can I say?   Yes I had the wireing 
harness replaced but the cost on a Diesel was only a couple hundred bucks if I 
remember correctly. I think the wireing harness for the W140 gasser was 
something like $1200.
Walt Lasher
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Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts

[Euan]

Rolf

Yes, this is idle vibration. Tail-pipe is a blur unless I crank the 
idle-speed nob up to full.


And yes, this is a RHD Euro wagon, and therefore non-turbo.

Engine mounts have been changed many times. Not so sure about the 
trannie mounts though. Must check that.


Cheers

Euan

I think you have other issues. All the engine mounts been replaced 
(including trans)? I forgot about your 5speed, this is a euro right? I 
know that as of 83 they still were lacking the extra sound deadening 
that the turbos had. This is idle vibration?


Euan wrote:
I undertook to report back on the fitting of engine-lurch struts to 
my 1985 300TD. Did they reduce the exhaust vibration problem which 
has bedevilled me since my indie removed my old worn-out struts long 
ago?


Short answer: I don't know yet. But I will if you guys can help me 
with one last question.


Getting the struts on was murder. Took several trips to the tool shop 
for wrenches small enough to work in the space available at the top 
end of the struts.  However, they're fitted now, and I'm a little 
lighter in the knuckle-skin department.


Started the engine and discovered, or should I say, rediscovered, an 
increased degree of engine vibration in the passenger cabin. Not 
intolerable but definitely noticeable. I'd forgotten how much less 
was transmitted with the struts removed. No lurch on shut-off though. 
I think I'd rather have less vibration.


I'd cranked the securing nuts on the struts down to the limit of 
their travel. I'm wondering if perhaps I should back them off so that 
the rubber bushes are under less compression and can absorb more of 
the vibration. What do you think? Is it necessary to tighten the nuts 
as far as they will go? Or will that simply reduce the effectiveness 
of the struts?


Grateful as ever for your advice

Cheers

Euan
1985 300TD 5-spd manual
221 K mi

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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Fmiser]

> Curt Raymond wrote:

> The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months.
> Apparently not rated for hot oil
> 
> Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie
> will donate his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car.

Ooh - How about dropping a turbo engine in there - huh?

It is a manual transmission, wasn't it?

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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Fmiser]

> Curt Raymond wrote:

> The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months.
> Apparently not rated for hot oil
> 
> Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie
> will donate his dashpot shock to retrofit the older car.

All you need is an engine - right?

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Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts

[Dieselhead]

My memory is fuzzy on this, but i recall the struts have Nylock nuts. 
They should compress the rubber to some extent, but should not be run 
to the end of the threads.  I am sure there is a spec, but i'd guess 
3-4 turns after snug would be enough. Too tight, and they will 
transmit vibration.


Unless you know the motor mounts and trans mount are new, they are 
probably the problem.  It might be just one, but it is beast to 
replace all at once.



I undertook to report back on the fitting of engine-lurch struts to 
my 1985 300TD. Did they reduce the exhaust vibration problem which 
has bedevilled me since my indie removed my old worn-out struts long 
ago?


Short answer: I don't know yet. But I will if you guys can help me 
with one last question.


Getting the struts on was murder. Took several trips to the tool 
shop for wrenches small enough to work in the space available at the 
top end of the struts.  However, they're fitted now, and I'm a 
little lighter in the knuckle-skin department.


Started the engine and discovered, or should I say, rediscovered, an 
increased degree of engine vibration in the passenger cabin. Not 
intolerable but definitely noticeable. I'd forgotten how much less 
was transmitted with the struts removed. No lurch on shut-off 
though. I think I'd rather have less vibration.


I'd cranked the securing nuts on the struts down to the limit of 
their travel. I'm wondering if perhaps I should back them off so 
that the rubber bushes are under less compression and can absorb 
more of the vibration. What do you think? Is it necessary to tighten 
the nuts as far as they will go? Or will that simply reduce the 
effectiveness of the struts?


Grateful as ever for your advice

Cheers

Euan
1985 300TD 5-spd manual
221 K mi

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Re: [MBZ] 350SDL power steering R/R & fluid

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:02:57 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> I have always used ATF and have not seen any problems.
> 
> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>> Here's one response from Marshall that covers it pretty well:
>>
>> Mercedes started shipping cars with
>> their own PS fluid in 1988, but the pumps were identical to those that
>> were filled with ATF at the factory and Mercedes had NOT required that
>> the fluid be changed even as late as 1995 (last time I contacted them
>> about any potential problem using ATF).

How about ATF in a '94 E420's steering pump?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:28:07 -0400 Rolf Martin-Hoster 
wrote:

> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/1850492283.html, He is down to 
> 4450 in another posting.

The listing says,

 This is the FINAL time I am going to run this car AT a FIRM price NO
 OFFERS. This car is not perfect at all but runs and drives very good.
 Please call me at 706 346 7876 it will sell i know it will. Again no
 offers 4700

 Ps Ac needs attention.

The Ps [sic] makes it a non-starter for me, particularly considering the
price and attitude.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Herr Ritter

[RELNGSON]

> ...We all know Roger over there. Try talking to Stu or the new guy and 
> see if you can be reinstated?
> Time heals wounds?
> mao..
> 
Roger who? I haven't posted anything for years, by order of His Eminence. 
He has no idea I am subscribed and there is no way to find out.

RLE

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[MBZ] STD's (Super Turbo Diesels; Was: Do I want a 126 again?)

[John Reames]

Ya I've seen the videos. Edging psychotic to have a turbo inlet that can 
swallow a standing can of coke!  You definitely need to screen that and keep 
the birds out.  It's my understanding that some of those use a 6cyl pump of the 
variety used in the 617's instead of the normal 60x due to the sixes of 
elements that are available...

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 17:08, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> John Reames wrote:
>> How about putting it in a c class body?
> 
> There are a lot of W201s (some of them 16v chassis) running around Finland 
> with 603 and 0606 engines in them, most making 300-500hp.
> 
> http://w124performance.com/movies/Mercedes/SuperTurbos/dieselboost_demo2.wmv
> 
> http://w124performance.com/movies/Mercedes/SuperTurbos/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

Im sure its the window film. Still a nice option.

-Rolf

Peter Frederick wrote:
Bulletproof "glass" is 3" thick Lexan.  I work at the plant that makes 
it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Peter Frederick]

Bulletproof "glass" is 3" thick Lexan.  I work at the plant that  
makes it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

Nah they had the window film by then right?

-Rolf


Peter Frederick wrote:
It is does, it will weigh 6000 lbs, too, get really terrible mileage, 
and handle like a slap of steel on solid tires.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Rich Thomas]

Where are the piccies?

--R

On 7/22/2010 10:49 PM, Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote:
7990 no rust. Claims to be a dignitary model with bullet proof 
glass


-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
92-95 was the 140 diesel in the US, all were rod benders, if engine 
replaced with a factory motor, should be fine.  All can have wiring 
harness problems, all can have evap problems.  How much do they want 
for it?


Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote:
Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one 
with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other 
known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What 
years were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be 
a euro and possibly older than 95?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Peter Frederick]

It is does, it will weigh 6000 lbs, too, get really terrible mileage,  
and handle like a slap of steel on solid tires.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

7990 no rust. Claims to be a dignitary model with bullet proof glass

-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
92-95 was the 140 diesel in the US, all were rod benders, if engine 
replaced with a factory motor, should be fine.  All can have wiring 
harness problems, all can have evap problems.  How much do they want 
for it?


Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote:
Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one 
with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other 
known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years 
were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro 
and possibly older than 95?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The wiring harness is about $270 from Rusty, very easy to replace.

John Freer wrote:

Be sure that the wiring harness and evaporator has been replaced...big
bucks more than what the car is worth!

John

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
  

Rolf Martin-Hoster  writes:



Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one
with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other
known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years
were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro
and possibly older than 95?
  

Marshall always said the factory replacement engines were good.  If you
can verify that it's a factory replacement not a rebuild by Joe's
Garage, it should be good.

--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

92-95 was the 140 diesel in the US, all were rod benders, if engine 
replaced with a factory motor, should be fine.  All can have wiring 
harness problems, all can have evap problems.  How much do they want for it?


Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote:
Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one 
with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other 
known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years 
were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro 
and possibly older than 95?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no, it just pops into place, its got spring loaded pins holding it in.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Do you have to take off that plastic header piece that is on top of
headliner? ? The mirror on  my 240D is a little loose and I looked into
taking it off to tighten the swivel ball. 


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.

Wickford, RI


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:12 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

Hey gang, 


How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out
of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need
to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my
240D...

Thanks

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

Guy says its a 300SD with a 350. I thought these were 126s but its 
clearly a 140 in the pics. Waiting for VIN tomorrow. I think this will 
have som VERY interesting options. (You think the bullet proof glass was 
optional from MB or added after? :D )


-Rolf

Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote:
Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one 
with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other 
known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years 
were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro 
and possibly older than 95?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

The engine was replaced at 120k miles. I can only assume the wiring 
harness was as well.


-Rolf
John Freer wrote:

Be sure that the wiring harness and evaporator has been replaced...big
bucks more than what the car is worth!

John

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
  

Rolf Martin-Hoster  writes:



Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one
with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other
known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years
were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro
and possibly older than 95?
  

Marshall always said the factory replacement engines were good.  If you
can verify that it's a factory replacement not a rebuild by Joe's
Garage, it should be good.

--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

I think you have other issues. All the engine mounts been replaced 
(including trans)? I forgot about your 5speed, this is a euro right? I 
know that as of 83 they still were lacking the extra sound deadening 
that the turbos had. This is idle vibration?


Euan wrote:
I undertook to report back on the fitting of engine-lurch struts to my 
1985 300TD. Did they reduce the exhaust vibration problem which has 
bedevilled me since my indie removed my old worn-out struts long ago?


Short answer: I don't know yet. But I will if you guys can help me 
with one last question.


Getting the struts on was murder. Took several trips to the tool shop 
for wrenches small enough to work in the space available at the top 
end of the struts.  However, they're fitted now, and I'm a little 
lighter in the knuckle-skin department.


Started the engine and discovered, or should I say, rediscovered, an 
increased degree of engine vibration in the passenger cabin. Not 
intolerable but definitely noticeable. I'd forgotten how much less was 
transmitted with the struts removed. No lurch on shut-off though. I 
think I'd rather have less vibration.


I'd cranked the securing nuts on the struts down to the limit of their 
travel. I'm wondering if perhaps I should back them off so that the 
rubber bushes are under less compression and can absorb more of the 
vibration. What do you think? Is it necessary to tighten the nuts as 
far as they will go? Or will that simply reduce the effectiveness of 
the struts?


Grateful as ever for your advice

Cheers

Euan
1985 300TD 5-spd manual
221 K mi

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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[John Freer]

Be sure that the wiring harness and evaporator has been replaced...big
bucks more than what the car is worth!

John

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> Rolf Martin-Hoster  writes:
>
>> Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one
>> with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other
>> known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years
>> were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro
>> and possibly older than 95?
>
> Marshall always said the factory replacement engines were good.  If you
> can verify that it's a factory replacement not a rebuild by Joe's
> Garage, it should be good.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 95 s350d

[Allan Streib]

Rolf Martin-Hoster  writes:

> Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one
> with 80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other
> known issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years
> were they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro
> and possibly older than 95?

Marshall always said the factory replacement engines were good.  If you
can verify that it's a factory replacement not a rebuild by Joe's
Garage, it should be good.

-- 
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[MBZ] 95 s350d

[Rolf Martin-Hoster]

Am I crazy? Maybe, I know these are the rod benders but I found one with 
80k on a replacement engine. What are these cars like? Other known 
issues? Do they have the problematic wiring harness? What years were 
they made? I have only seen 95 but this one appears to be a euro and 
possibly older than 95?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Peter Frederick]

Or the good old Murphy switch -- no oil pressure and the engine shuts  
off.  Have to hold the manual override down to start it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

[Brian Toscano]

There are springs in the base that keep it in place - designed for human safety 
in wrecks?  Just grab it and take it out.

Regards,
-Original Message-
From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" 
Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:39:04 
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

Do you have to take off that plastic header piece that is on top of
headliner? ? The mirror on  my 240D is a little loose and I looked into
taking it off to tighten the swivel ball. 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:12 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

Hey gang, 

How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out
of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need
to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my
240D...

Thanks

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Allan Streib]

Rich Thomas  writes:

> How might one wire a lamp?  A switch that is open by the voltage of
> the proper reading, which then closes if the voltage drops below
> whatever threshold?  Do we have any idea what voltages correspond to
> the various oil pressure readings on the gauge?  I guess a simple
> circuit of some kind, with an LED or something that comes on?

Oil pressure switches are readily available.  Despite some otherwise
(IMHO) questionable engineering, VW engines actually do this well.  They
have an idle pressure circuit and a high pressure circuit.  If pressure
is too low at idle, a red lamp illuminates on the dash.  If pressure is
too low above 1800 RPM or so, the red lamp blinks and a really attention
getting, raspy buzzer sounds.  You cannot ignore it.

They don't have a pressure gauge though, so if the alarm goes off you
have no means to verify whether the oil pressure is really low or the
switch is faulty (a common problem).

Allan
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] W115 - parting, probably

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

I have had local boat upholstery/canvas  guy who owns 240D's and an 300SD
switch out the seat cover on a new(used) spring-he has done several for
me-sadly he has retired now. 
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Tim C
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 - parting, probably

Probably okay, but I'm not sure I'd have known then if the springs were
intact.  Interior is tan, darkish if I remember right, so it might dye
okay.  Will check springs in the morning.

-Tim

On Jul 22, 2010 7:06 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> What kind of shape are the front seats in? More specifically, I need a
> seat bottom in blue. Or I could dye it blue I suppose.
>
> Tim C wrote:
>> Listed the dead-engined 74 240D Tuesday, and have no reputable leads, so
>> unless someone comes along this weekend I will be tearing it up next week
>> and dumping the carcass.
>>
>> Mentioned to the list because I figure some of you might want some W115
>> parts. I will probably strip off low-hanging fruit on Monday and Tuesday,
>> so get your orders in by then. :)
>>
>> -Tim
>> Durham NC 27705
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Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Do you have to take off that plastic header piece that is on top of
headliner? ? The mirror on  my 240D is a little loose and I looked into
taking it off to tighten the swivel ball. 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:12 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

Hey gang, 

How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out
of my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need
to get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my
240D...

Thanks

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Similarities

[Mountain Man]

RLE wrote:
> I really
> wish I was who I said I was when I signed up with a gmail account.

We all know Roger over there.
Try talking to Stu or the new guy and see if you can be reinstated?
Time heals wounds?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] searching ebay

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

OK, Iguess you can do it from the ebay page, not the ebaymotors page 
like I am used to.


Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So, does anbody know how to search for newly listed items in the last 
24 hours?



like this?
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=190d+turbo&_sacat=0&LH_Time=903..24

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85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Mountain Man]

--R wrote:
> I guess a simple circuit of some kind, with
> an LED or something that comes on?

Wire it so that it gets feed when you turn the key - like all the
other dash lights to prove all lights are operational for the ride you
are going to take.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] searching ebay

[Mountain Man]

Kaleb wrote:
> So, does anbody know how to search for newly listed items in
> the last 24 hours?

Advanced search, last option allows most recently added.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] searching ebay

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So, does anbody know how to 
search for newly listed items in the last 24 hours?



like this?
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=190d+turbo&_sacat=0&LH_Time=903..24

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Re: [MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

which one, the inside or outside?  If inside, you just crab the holder 
part and yank it real hard.


Curt Raymond wrote:
Hey gang, 


How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out of 
my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need to 
get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my 240D...

Thanks

-Curt



  
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85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
http://www.okiebenz.com



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[MBZ] 201 rearview mirror?

[Curt Raymond]

Hey gang, 

How does the rearview mirror come off a 201? Somebody had wanted the one out of 
my 190D at some point in the past and as I now have TWO parts cars I need to 
get the 190D stripped double quick so I can get on with parting my 240D...

Thanks

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[Mountain Man]

John wrote:
> Dontcha miss the days of killfiles?

Same thing today, only with a UI.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[Mountain Man]

John wrote:
> Now, let's get back to discussing the moon landing. What say you regarding 
> Mars?

Careful now - airheads are a well respected type of motorcycle.
As to Mars? - We'll diddle until interest drops and funding is too much.
Also, most travel to outer areas will go to more sophisticated ROV.
mao

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[MBZ] searching ebay

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Ok, did they change something yet again?  Everytime they change 
something, it screws things up.  There used to be a way to only search 
items listed, in say, the last 24 hours.  I  have a saved search setup 
and it does this.  And if I wanted to change to search for something 
else, I just deleted the search terms in the search box of my custom 
search, and it would search whatever I put in within the last 24 hours.  
Now when I do that it brings up everything.  So, does anbody know how to 
search for newly listed items in the last 24 hours?


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85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
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Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[Mountain Man]

-Max wrote:
> A classmate of my mother's died as part of the crew that burned up in O2
> atmosphere on the launch pad.  My mother is quite sure his death and
> funeral were real.

Yes.
But a long way from moon.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] DBV: banned lister who came in from the cold

[Mountain Man]

Dan wrote:
> Mao, I have a grand total of 9 alias accounts there.  I never look at them.  
> I can hand one off to you if you're really interested.
>

Crispy pancakes for sure.
I have not been banned there, so I watch it up front.
I always wanted to use my f***microsoft.com email address.  I don't
think that domain exists anymore - but I found it attractive 13 years
ago.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] W115 - parting, probably

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Springs are probably fine, that is not much of an issue on those cars.  
Main thing I need is the cover.


Tim C wrote:

Probably okay, but I'm not sure I'd have known then if the springs were
intact.  Interior is tan, darkish if I remember right, so it might dye
okay.  Will check springs in the morning.

-Tim

On Jul 22, 2010 7:06 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
  

What kind of shape are the front seats in? More specifically, I need a
seat bottom in blue. Or I could dye it blue I suppose.

Tim C wrote:


Listed the dead-engined 74 240D Tuesday, and have no reputable leads, so
unless someone comes along this weekend I will be tearing it up next week
and dumping the carcass.

Mentioned to the list because I figure some of you might want some W115
parts. I will probably strip off low-hanging fruit on Monday and Tuesday,
so get your orders in by then. :)

-Tim
Durham NC 27705
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Re: [MBZ] W115 - parting, probably

[Tim C]

Probably okay, but I'm not sure I'd have known then if the springs were
intact.  Interior is tan, darkish if I remember right, so it might dye
okay.  Will check springs in the morning.

-Tim

On Jul 22, 2010 7:06 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> What kind of shape are the front seats in? More specifically, I need a
> seat bottom in blue. Or I could dye it blue I suppose.
>
> Tim C wrote:
>> Listed the dead-engined 74 240D Tuesday, and have no reputable leads, so
>> unless someone comes along this weekend I will be tearing it up next week
>> and dumping the carcass.
>>
>> Mentioned to the list because I figure some of you might want some W115
>> parts. I will probably strip off low-hanging fruit on Monday and Tuesday,
>> so get your orders in by then. :)
>>
>> -Tim
>> Durham NC 27705
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Re: [MBZ] W115 - parting, probably

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

What kind of shape are the front seats in?  More specifically, I need a 
seat bottom in blue.  Or I could dye it blue I suppose.


Tim C wrote:

Listed the dead-engined 74 240D Tuesday, and have no reputable leads, so
unless someone comes along this weekend I will be tearing it up next week
and dumping the carcass.

Mentioned to the list because I figure some of you might want some W115
parts.  I will probably strip off low-hanging fruit on Monday and Tuesday,
so get your orders in by then. :)

-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] where to buy R12

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

geez, thats too much

Rolf wrote:
Lets see if my next car needs it an we'll talk. I think I paid $30 a 
can shipped.


-Rolf

On 07/21/2010 08:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

if its cheap I am interested.

Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote:

I have 2? 3? cans I will sell.

-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Im going to keep my eye out for reasonably priced R12 to 
stockpile.  Where is the best place to look besides ebay.  Is there 
anywhere online that sells cylinders or even cans at a reasonable 
price?  I had heard R12 has actually been going down in price.  I 
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL

[OK Don]

IIRC, you bleed the front brakes, whether they need it or not. This might
center the pressure switch again.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM, R A Bennell  wrote:

> So how does one get the thing to re-set? I have been driving around with
> the red light on for a year or more since
> I bled the rear brakes. I assume that it was activated either because the
> fluid got low while we were pumping it
> through, or the diffference in pressure, front to rear, was triggered by
> the bleed screw being opened.
>
> This is on my 76 115 300D of course.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Barry Stark
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:56 AM
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> Cc: fpip...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL
>
>
>  Dear mystery lister -
> It seems that you may have a brake fluid leak around the brake switch on
> top
> of the brake fluid reservoir. If that is so, you generally just have to
> replace the little rubber cover on the switch. Most of the later systems
> the
> switch is not even replaceable.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> > > I'm about to replace defective brake pressure switch on the  brake
> > > reservoir.
> > >
> > > Any need to be concerned about excessive brake fluid  leakage?
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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Curt Raymond]

The hose that failed isn't that old, maybe 10 months. Apparently not rated for 
hot oil

Looking now like I might buy Dwight's 240D. If I do Hammie will donate his 
dashpot shock to retrofit the older car.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:05:46 -0400
From: Frederick W Moir 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
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Curt.
That old soldier didn't just fade away, went down swinging. RIP.
Isn't deferred maintenance a pain?
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA


  
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[MBZ] W115 - parting, probably

[Tim C]

Listed the dead-engined 74 240D Tuesday, and have no reputable leads, so
unless someone comes along this weekend I will be tearing it up next week
and dumping the carcass.

Mentioned to the list because I figure some of you might want some W115
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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[R A Bennell]

Generally, I think an oil pressure warning lamp is switched on by completing 
the circuit to ground. If pressure
drops the circuit is completed and the light comes on. Would work the same with 
a buzzer and one could easily have
both. I'm getting old and hard of hearing though. Sometimes my cell phone rings 
and between the noise of the
vehicle and the radio or whatever, I may not hear the cell phone ring. I like 
the vibrater doodad as if it is in my
pocket I feel it before it rings.

Randy

-Original Message-
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:07 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.


Well, it is probably the difference between French and German
sensibilities.  My understanding is that the German mentality regards
cars is that you should know what you are doing, and should pay
attention at all times to the operation of said vehicle, and should
become aware when the car is not performing appropriately, and act
accordingly if ist nicht in ordnung.  (the French approach is probably
exactly the opposite, laissez faire, non?, though I cannot verify that
from any direct experience)

How might one wire a lamp?  A switch that is open by the voltage of the
proper reading, which then closes if the voltage drops below whatever
threshold?  Do we have any idea what voltages correspond to the various
oil pressure readings on the gauge?  I guess a simple circuit of some
kind, with an LED or something that comes on?

--R

On 7/22/2010 5:50 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
> Hi, All.
> The old ID19 Citroen that I had in the UK had a very large
> multi-purpose red STOP lamp on the dash for such things as hydraulic
> failures, oil pressure, ignition etc. Can't understand why they didn't
> become popular, maybe it was the heart-stopping effect of sudden
> illumination?
> Geez! that was a long time ago.
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
>
> On 7/22/2010 5:29 PM, R A Bennell wrote:
>> I never did it, but I had plans to install a large red light on the
>> dash in one of my trucks. I even bought the
>> light and probably still have it. It is just one of the red marker
>> lights sold for trailer side markers. I just
>> thought that a big light would be more noticeable than the gauge or
>> small dash light. Might scare you if it went on
>> in the dark.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib
>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:06 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.
>>
>>
>> I've always thought that for oil pressure, an audible alarm should
>> accompany the gauge.  Most people (maybe trained
>> pilots excepted) do not check that continually, and it doesn't take
>> long for a running engine with zero oil
>> pressure to damage itself.
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:44 -0700, "Curt
>> Raymond"  wrote:
>>> Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on
>>> Hammie.
>>> As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared,
>>> oil on the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had
>>> made it
>>> sound better than it is.
>>>
>>> The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost,
>>> split
>>> right in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last
>>> weekend in my abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement
>>> oil
>>> cooler has arrived, its on my kitchen table...
>>>
>>> Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt
>>> right around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but
>>> nothing else. I didn't want to do more and get greasy with the
>>> clothes I
>>> have on.
>>>
>>> He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great
>>> highway in the sky.
>>>
>>> On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off
>>> to the registry.
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Rich Thomas]

Well, it is probably the difference between French and German 
sensibilities.  My understanding is that the German mentality regards 
cars is that you should know what you are doing, and should pay 
attention at all times to the operation of said vehicle, and should 
become aware when the car is not performing appropriately, and act 
accordingly if ist nicht in ordnung.  (the French approach is probably 
exactly the opposite, laissez faire, non?, though I cannot verify that 
from any direct experience)


How might one wire a lamp?  A switch that is open by the voltage of the 
proper reading, which then closes if the voltage drops below whatever 
threshold?  Do we have any idea what voltages correspond to the various 
oil pressure readings on the gauge?  I guess a simple circuit of some 
kind, with an LED or something that comes on?


--R

On 7/22/2010 5:50 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:

Hi, All.
The old ID19 Citroen that I had in the UK had a very large 
multi-purpose red STOP lamp on the dash for such things as hydraulic 
failures, oil pressure, ignition etc. Can't understand why they didn't 
become popular, maybe it was the heart-stopping effect of sudden 
illumination?

Geez! that was a long time ago.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

On 7/22/2010 5:29 PM, R A Bennell wrote:
I never did it, but I had plans to install a large red light on the 
dash in one of my trucks. I even bought the
light and probably still have it. It is just one of the red marker 
lights sold for trailer side markers. I just
thought that a big light would be more noticeable than the gauge or 
small dash light. Might scare you if it went on

in the dark.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.


I've always thought that for oil pressure, an audible alarm should 
accompany the gauge.  Most people (maybe trained
pilots excepted) do not check that continually, and it doesn't take 
long for a running engine with zero oil

pressure to damage itself.

Allan

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:44 -0700, "Curt 
Raymond"  wrote:
Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on 
Hammie.

As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared,
oil on the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had 
made it

sound better than it is.

The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost, 
split

right in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last
weekend in my abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement 
oil

cooler has arrived, its on my kitchen table...

Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt
right around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but
nothing else. I didn't want to do more and get greasy with the 
clothes I

have on.

He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great
highway in the sky.

On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off
to the registry.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Frederick W Moir]

Hi, All.
The old ID19 Citroen that I had in the UK had a very large multi-purpose 
red STOP lamp on the dash for such things as hydraulic failures, oil 
pressure, ignition etc. Can't understand why they didn't become popular, 
maybe it was the heart-stopping effect of sudden illumination?

Geez! that was a long time ago.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

On 7/22/2010 5:29 PM, R A Bennell wrote:

I never did it, but I had plans to install a large red light on the dash in one 
of my trucks. I even bought the
light and probably still have it. It is just one of the red marker lights sold 
for trailer side markers. I just
thought that a big light would be more noticeable than the gauge or small dash 
light. Might scare you if it went on
in the dark.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.


I've always thought that for oil pressure, an audible alarm should accompany 
the gauge.  Most people (maybe trained
pilots excepted) do not check that continually, and it doesn't take long for a 
running engine with zero oil
pressure to damage itself.

Allan

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:44 -0700, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
   

Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on Hammie.
As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared,
oil on the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had made it
sound better than it is.

The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost, split
right in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last
weekend in my abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement oil
cooler has arrived, its on my kitchen table...

Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt
right around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but
nothing else. I didn't want to do more and get greasy with the clothes I
have on.

He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great
highway in the sky.

On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off
to the registry.

-Curt




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[MBZ] Report-back on engine lurch-restraint struts

[Euan]

I undertook to report back on the fitting of engine-lurch struts to my 
1985 300TD. Did they reduce the exhaust vibration problem which has 
bedevilled me since my indie removed my old worn-out struts long ago?


Short answer: I don't know yet. But I will if you guys can help me with 
one last question.


Getting the struts on was murder. Took several trips to the tool shop 
for wrenches small enough to work in the space available at the top end 
of the struts.  However, they're fitted now, and I'm a little lighter in 
the knuckle-skin department.


Started the engine and discovered, or should I say, rediscovered, an 
increased degree of engine vibration in the passenger cabin. Not 
intolerable but definitely noticeable. I'd forgotten how much less was 
transmitted with the struts removed. No lurch on shut-off though. I 
think I'd rather have less vibration.


I'd cranked the securing nuts on the struts down to the limit of their 
travel. I'm wondering if perhaps I should back them off so that the 
rubber bushes are under less compression and can absorb more of the 
vibration. What do you think? Is it necessary to tighten the nuts as far 
as they will go? Or will that simply reduce the effectiveness of the struts?


Grateful as ever for your advice

Cheers

Euan
1985 300TD 5-spd manual
221 K mi

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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:
I've always thought that for oil pressure, an audible alarm should accompany the gauge. 


For a while in the 1970's Honda 750s had an annoying turn signal beeper. Smart 
riders rewired the beeper to run off the oil pressure warning light circuit.


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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[R A Bennell]

I never did it, but I had plans to install a large red light on the dash in one 
of my trucks. I even bought the
light and probably still have it. It is just one of the red marker lights sold 
for trailer side markers. I just
thought that a big light would be more noticeable than the gauge or small dash 
light. Might scare you if it went on
in the dark.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.


I've always thought that for oil pressure, an audible alarm should accompany 
the gauge.  Most people (maybe trained
pilots excepted) do not check that continually, and it doesn't take long for a 
running engine with zero oil
pressure to damage itself.

Allan

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:44 -0700, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
> Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on Hammie.
> As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared,
> oil on the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had made it
> sound better than it is.
>
> The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost, split
> right in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last
> weekend in my abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement oil
> cooler has arrived, its on my kitchen table...
>
> Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt
> right around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but
> nothing else. I didn't want to do more and get greasy with the clothes I
> have on.
>
> He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great
> highway in the sky.
>
> On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off
> to the registry.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Diesel Idyll

[Frederick W Moir]

Hi, All.
Today was a splendid day. Warm with a cool breeze under shady maples.
So, time to prevent my pistons from melting on my latest 190DT. Got out 
the bits and pieces and then spent an hour taking off the 
f...@#!!**&8^!*&ing verdammt fuse box cover.
Cleaned off the crud and replaced them all. Parts from Rusty of course. 
Only took about 15 mins. to put said cover back on.
Q. How does one take off the hood release cable without removing that 
one nut that holds the whole car together? The front radiator support 
etc. must come off for the front end release assy., just can't find the 
other end under the hood. (Please don't tell me it's under the fuse box!)

TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

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Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?

[Mitch Haley]

John Reames wrote:

How about putting it in a c class body?


There are a lot of W201s (some of them 16v chassis) running around Finland with 
603 and 0606 engines in them, most making 300-500hp.


http://w124performance.com/movies/Mercedes/SuperTurbos/dieselboost_demo2.wmv

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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Frederick W Moir]

Curt.
That old soldier didn't just fade away, went down swinging. RIP.
Isn't deferred maintenance a pain?
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On 7/22/2010 3:44 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on Hammie.
As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared, oil on 
the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had made it sound better 
than it is.

The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost, split right 
in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last weekend in my 
abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement oil cooler has arrived, 
its on my kitchen table...

Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt right 
around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but nothing else. I 
didn't want to do more and get greasy with the clothes I have on.

He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great highway in 
the sky.

On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off to the 
registry.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Allan Streib]

I've always thought that for oil pressure, an audible alarm should accompany 
the gauge.  Most people (maybe trained pilots excepted) do not check that 
continually, and it doesn't take long for a running engine with zero oil 
pressure to damage itself.

Allan

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:44 -0700, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
> Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on Hammie.
> As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared,
> oil on the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had made it
> sound better than it is.
> 
> The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost, split
> right in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last
> weekend in my abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement oil
> cooler has arrived, its on my kitchen table...
> 
> Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt
> right around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but
> nothing else. I didn't want to do more and get greasy with the clothes I
> have on.
> 
> He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great
> highway in the sky.
> 
> On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off
> to the registry.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Biz?

[Van Knutson]

"Frederick W Moir" 





Rusty, are you branching out?
http://www.rustysautosalvage.com
Just Kidding!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
 

 
better not --- kaleb has a no compete clause in his okielist contract.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Similarities

[RELNGSON]

> ...Trust me, it's pretty sedate over there.  You can choose about 6-8 
> names and they're the bulk of the posters, and it's the same old blather.
> 
Exactly like here. 

I also subscribe, using a nom-de-internet and frequently delete everything 
without reading when there are too many digests to wade through. I really 
wish I was who I said I was when I signed up with a gmail account.

RLE
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[John Reames]

Dontcha miss the days of killfiles?

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:52, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> you would have to consult your mail program about that.
> 
> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>> Kaleb, can I block contributions from select folks, or is it take them all 
>> or none at all?
>> 
>> -Max
>> 
>> 
>>  
> 
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> 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro 
> manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?

[John Reames]

Replace the glow plugs when its out that way if you need a head job, you don't 
waste coolant etc. (yes, 606 glowplug replacement is a job that sucks)

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:30, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 
 wrote:

> That's been done several times, owner's quite pleased with results.
> What really makes this a nice deal is that 210 cars are falling in price
> but the engines are sound.
> 
> Now I'm thinking that replacing my NA 606 with a turbo 606 in lighter
> body of a 124 using 603 turbo pump...
> 
> -Max 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:46 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?
> 
> Hmmm
> What would happen if you fitted the IP from a 603.97 to a 606.96??
> 
> I dunno where you would stuff the intercooler though...
> 
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> On Jul 21, 2010, at 22:25, OK Don  wrote:
> 
>> The price is right for a very clean car, according to KBB, but $1500 
>> too high according to Edmunds. Might offer to spilt the difference
> with him.
>> Anyone want a '91 300E?
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Rich Thomas < 
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> That looks like a nice car.  there was one last summer at the mech's 
>>> that needed a head gasket, he wanted $800.  Car was in beautiful 
>>> shape otherwise, low miles.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?

[John Reames]

How about putting it in a c class body?

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:30, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 
 wrote:

> That's been done several times, owner's quite pleased with results.
> What really makes this a nice deal is that 210 cars are falling in price
> but the engines are sound.
> 
> Now I'm thinking that replacing my NA 606 with a turbo 606 in lighter
> body of a 124 using 603 turbo pump...
> 
> -Max 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:46 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?
> 
> Hmmm
> What would happen if you fitted the IP from a 603.97 to a 606.96??
> 
> I dunno where you would stuff the intercooler though...
> 
> --
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> 
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 22:25, OK Don  wrote:
> 
>> The price is right for a very clean car, according to KBB, but $1500 
>> too high according to Edmunds. Might offer to spilt the difference
> with him.
>> Anyone want a '91 300E?
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Rich Thomas < 
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> That looks like a nice car.  there was one last summer at the mech's 
>>> that needed a head gasket, he wanted $800.  Car was in beautiful 
>>> shape otherwise, low miles.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>> 
>> --
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Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?

[WILTON]

When a black Mercedes looks good, it looks VERY good.  I think black is the 
most appropriate color for an S class, but I'm beginning to be a bit 
embarrassed that my 126 doesn't look as good as it should.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "E M" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?



But it's a small price to pay for the "cool" factor of driving a black car
Wilton. ;-)  I saw a new black S Class today.  It's in the 90s here, but
still, the car looked s good.  Not a speck of dust on it anywhere
either, and I know black isn't the easiest colour to maintain.

Ed
300E

On 22 July 2010 13:36, WILTON  wrote:


I can't touch outer surface of my black car while entering it while it's
sitting in the sun on one of these really hot days.  I can touch outer
surface of the white one reasonably OK under same conditions.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "OK Don" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?


 I agree - the black interior is a turn-off. Sheepskins might make it

acceptable though.

I measured the inside temp at the console with the IR thermometer last
Sunday in both the black 124 and the white 124, both of which had been
sitting in the sun all day - around 4PM. The temp in both of them was
137F.
Surprised me! I was sure that the black car would be hotter. It does 
have

tinted windows, and the white car doesn't, I don't know it that makes a
difference or not. Htey were parked at 90 degrees to each other, so it
wasn't a really good test, but interesting that both temps were same!
The door facing West on the black car was 165F.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM, WILTON  wrote:

 Yes, SD is the shorter wheelbase.  'Mighty fine car.  Black interior,
though; my black/palomino SDL is hot enough.  'Fraid I'll hafta let 
this

one
go, too.  ;<)))

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "OK Don" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?


 http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1855776540.html



Looks like the rod bender engine has been replaced -- is the 350SD the
short
wheel base version? Might have to go look at this one.

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Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?

[E M]

But it's a small price to pay for the "cool" factor of driving a black car
Wilton. ;-)  I saw a new black S Class today.  It's in the 90s here, but
still, the car looked s good.  Not a speck of dust on it anywhere
either, and I know black isn't the easiest colour to maintain.

Ed
300E

On 22 July 2010 13:36, WILTON  wrote:

> I can't touch outer surface of my black car while entering it while it's
> sitting in the sun on one of these really hot days.  I can touch outer
> surface of the white one reasonably OK under same conditions.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "OK Don" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?
>
>
>  I agree - the black interior is a turn-off. Sheepskins might make it
>> acceptable though.
>>
>> I measured the inside temp at the console with the IR thermometer last
>> Sunday in both the black 124 and the white 124, both of which had been
>> sitting in the sun all day - around 4PM. The temp in both of them was
>> 137F.
>> Surprised me! I was sure that the black car would be hotter. It does have
>> tinted windows, and the white car doesn't, I don't know it that makes a
>> difference or not. Htey were parked at 90 degrees to each other, so it
>> wasn't a really good test, but interesting that both temps were same!
>> The door facing West on the black car was 165F.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>
>>  Yes, SD is the shorter wheelbase.  'Mighty fine car.  Black interior,
>>> though; my black/palomino SDL is hot enough.  'Fraid I'll hafta let this
>>> one
>>> go, too.  ;<)))
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "OK Don" 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:19 PM
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1855776540.html
>>>

 Looks like the rod bender engine has been replaced -- is the 350SD the
 short
 wheel base version? Might have to go look at this one.

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[MBZ] Its worse than that he's dead Jim.

[Curt Raymond]

Just got home from NYC and ran to the garage to do the triage on Hammie.
As I got near the front I knew it was going to be worse than I feared, oil on 
the ground, oil on the grill, oil on the hood. My wife had made it sound better 
than it is.

The hose that connected the two oil cooler hoses gave up the ghost, split right 
in half actually. Apparently I had treated it too roughly last weekend in my 
abortive oil cooler replacement. Worse the replacement oil cooler has arrived, 
its on my kitchen table...

Engine is tight, I put a wrench on the PS belt and can spin the belt right 
around the main pulley, hit the key and the starter clunks but nothing else. I 
didn't want to do more and get greasy with the clothes I have on.

He was a good friend for 7 years but this is it, off to that great highway in 
the sky.

On a positive note the registration for the Red 190D arrived so I'm off to the 
registry.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

[Rich Thomas]

I saw it as I was leaving, had some sort of NC temp or dealer plates on 
it.  I can ask the daughter unit to check it out.


--R

On 7/22/2010 1:48 PM, WILTON wrote:

Check it out; let us know, etc.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.


That is sorta funny -- I am visiting my daughter in Gboro and just 
took the dog out for walkies, and in the garage of a house across the 
street is a car just like that one, with what looks like temp or 
dealer plates on it.  h.


--R

On 7/22/10 7:58 AM, Rolf wrote:

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/1830107779.html

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Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Mitch Haley]

Larry T wrote:
I must have gotten very lucky - my 91 has none of the problems you 
mention. Bought it 3.5yr ago with 99K on it for $8K.  it has 182K now...

My fingers are crossed -


Well, if the evaporator ever fails, you can check for a date stamp on it when 
you remove it and see if it's as old as the car.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Larry T]

I must have gotten very lucky - my 91 has none of the problems you mention. 
Bought it 3.5yr ago with 99K on it for $8K.  it has 182K now...

My fingers are crossed -

;-)
LarryT
91 300D


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Putting Buyers & Sellers Together

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From: "Alex Chamberlain" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:17 AM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124


On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Rolf  wrote:


I talked to him and its got issues. GP relay/plugs and ac wonkiness. Some
paint issues. If I am getting a loan for a car and paying above kbb
excellent private party it better be like new.



I wouldn't believe anyone (with the possible exception of someone on this
list) who said that their '87 300D was "like new."  They ALL have AC
wonkiness (who pulls the dash and does the evaporator and replaces all the
vacuum pods, except Wilton or Peter F.?), shifting issues (ditto for the
rest of the vacuum system), and suspensions in need of a total rebuild.

Just figure you're going to be spending $3,000 or the equivalent in your 
own

labor to be getting those problems squared away on any car you buy; try to
find a car with good cosmetics, unless you are good at doing paint and
upholstery yourself; and adjust the price you're willing to pay 
accordingly.


I know some here will disagree with me, but 124s are not like the 123s
you're used to, Rolf... they are far more complicated, high-strung, and
sensitive to correct maintenance, and you should assume, unless there is
hard evidence to the contrary, that anyone selling one is doing so because
they're in over their head and are tired of shelling out $500 a pop to fix
every little thing that breaks.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

[WILTON]

'But have real doubts about really getting bitten.   ;<))

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.



Read that as: Wilton has the bug too!

-Max

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

Check it out; let us know, etc.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.



That is sorta funny -- I am visiting my daughter in Gboro and just

took

the dog out for walkies, and in the garage of a house across the

street

is a car just like that one, with what looks like temp or dealer

plates

on it.  h.

--R

On 7/22/10 7:58 AM, Rolf wrote:

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/1830107779.html

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Re: [MBZ] Block particular adresses - was: OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'll give it a shot- thanks to you Philip and all the others that
suggested this fix.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block particular adresses - was: OT 41 years ago
(less a few minutes)

> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

> Kaleb, can I block contributions from select folks, or is it take them

> all or none at all?

Do it yourself with a filter. I believe all email clients now have some
sort of filter option.

Set it up so those you don't want to read are set to the trash.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Block particular adresses - was: OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[Fmiser]

> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

> Kaleb, can I block contributions from select folks, or is it
> take them all or none at all?

Do it yourself with a filter. I believe all email clients now
have some sort of filter option.

Set it up so those you don't want to read are set to the trash.

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[MBZ] New Biz?

[Frederick W Moir]

Rusty, are you branching out?
http://www.rustysautosalvage.com
Just Kidding!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

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Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Read that as: Wilton has the bug too!

-Max 

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:48 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

Check it out; let us know, etc.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.


> That is sorta funny -- I am visiting my daughter in Gboro and just
took 
> the dog out for walkies, and in the garage of a house across the
street 
> is a car just like that one, with what looks like temp or dealer
plates 
> on it.  h.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 7/22/10 7:58 AM, Rolf wrote:
>> http://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/1830107779.html
>>
>> ..
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Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

[WILTON]

Check it out; let us know, etc.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.


That is sorta funny -- I am visiting my daughter in Gboro and just took 
the dog out for walkies, and in the garage of a house across the street 
is a car just like that one, with what looks like temp or dealer plates 
on it.  h.


--R

On 7/22/10 7:58 AM, Rolf wrote:

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/1830107779.html

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Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

[WILTON]

That "leather" looks exactly like the MBTex in my '87 300D.  ;<)))

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.



http://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/1830107779.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise

[John Reames]

I'll triple check tonight. Its kinda hard to find both lefts and rights that 
are slightly sloped... And where I can keep it in the 10-20 mph range.


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On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:34, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 
 wrote:

> Then the left side is suspect.
> 
> -Max 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:02 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
> 
> The noise does seem to disappear on right turns.
> 
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> 
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:18, "Dillon, Meade M CIV
> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"  wrote:
> 
>> Easy to test an axle joint - weave side to side at speed with it's 
>> making noise; the bad axle gets louder when it's on the outside (under
> 
>> load).
>> 
>> -Max
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:25 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
>> 
>> Well the sound is getting easier to make and to hear. 
>> 
>> At 10-20mph, on a a slight downhill under powered deceleration, it's 
>> kind of a thumping. Going up a slight hill with a steady speed (held 
>> by slight pedal input), the frequency is the same, but it is
> different...
>> More like (solid) tappets running while covered with sticky grease.
>> 
>> I can hear it best with the only the rear passenger window down... 
>> With the rear driver window down, nothing.
>> 
>> I'm now betting axle; passenger, outer cv.
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2010, at 20:00, John Reames  wrote:
>> 
>>> Further observations..
>>> 
>>> There is definitely a rear end noise.. When slowly stopping or
>> starting (ie in a garage), with the windows down, it sounds like a 
>> single hit of an exhaust pipe on chassis/body underpanel.
>>> 
>>> When "coasting"; that is a steady speed on reasonably flat ground
>> (slight incline is ok, decline not so much), with the foot off the 
>> pedal, at slow (crawl) speeds, the noise is almost identical and is 
>> repetitive.  By 10-15mph, each noise is too brief to characterize, but
> 
>> the frequency is up to 3-4 per second. By 25-30, it is in the 6-8Hz 
>> range, and it's hard to pick up over 30.
>>> 
>>> At highway speeds, pulling off the pedal will result in a brief
>> vibration (1 sec) during downshifts.
>>> 
>>> Due to rain, I have been unable to pull a wheel and jack it...
>>> I hope to be able to tomorrow night when I get home from work.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 21:05, John Reames  wrote:
>>> 
 The flex discs have under 10k miles on them (both front and rear.
 
 The center bearing felt good when I replaced the discs, and the
>> rubber around it was uncracked and pliable (but not mushy). I marked 
>> the shaft w/r/t the spiders on the transmission and diff.  The new 
>> discs were installed in the same orientation as the old ones, and the 
>> shaft was positioned the same w/r/t my placement marks. I cleaned and 
>> relubed the centering sleeves; they looked good.
 
 I did a visual on the boots when i took the temps, and no cracks to
>> be seen, and no grease was to be seen. 
 
 Should the wheel be drooping or supported when trying to turn it?
 
 How do you check 210 diff mounts? They appear to be bushing type 
 that
>> are pressed into the rear of the subframe...
 
 -j.
 
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 On Jul 18, 2010, at 13:30, Peter Frederick 
>> wrote:
 
> Do a visual check of the rubber in the driveline (flex disks, 
> boots,
>> dif mounts, ete) and replace any that show signs of serious age.  
> 
> You can check the drive axle half by jacking it up and holding the
>> shaft while attempting to rotate the wheel.  A bad outer joint will 
>> have distinct play and "clank" when you do this, just like a bad front
> 
>> CV joint.
> 
> It's unusual for a joint to fail with an intact boot, but not
>> unheard of -- these are  fairly flow flex joints, unlike those on 
>> front wheel drive cars.
> 
> I do think you are on the right track, though, as whatever is 
> making
>> the noise pretty much has to be rotating.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: John Reames 
>> Sent: Jul 18, 2010 10:35 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
>> 
>> It can be reproduce

Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?

[WILTON]

I can't touch outer surface of my black car while entering it while it's 
sitting in the sun on one of these really hot days.  I can touch outer 
surface of the white one reasonably OK under same conditions.


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?



I agree - the black interior is a turn-off. Sheepskins might make it
acceptable though.

I measured the inside temp at the console with the IR thermometer last
Sunday in both the black 124 and the white 124, both of which had been
sitting in the sun all day - around 4PM. The temp in both of them was 
137F.

Surprised me! I was sure that the black car would be hotter. It does have
tinted windows, and the white car doesn't, I don't know it that makes a
difference or not. Htey were parked at 90 degrees to each other, so it
wasn't a really good test, but interesting that both temps were same!
The door facing West on the black car was 165F.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM, WILTON  wrote:


Yes, SD is the shorter wheelbase.  'Mighty fine car.  Black interior,
though; my black/palomino SDL is hot enough.  'Fraid I'll hafta let this 
one

go, too.  ;<)))

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "OK Don" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Do I want a 126 again?


  http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1855776540.html


Looks like the rod bender engine has been replaced -- is the 350SD the
short
wheel base version? Might have to go look at this one.

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Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL

[R A Bennell]

So how does one get the thing to re-set? I have been driving around with the 
red light on for a year or more since
I bled the rear brakes. I assume that it was activated either because the fluid 
got low while we were pumping it
through, or the diffference in pressure, front to rear, was triggered by the 
bleed screw being opened.

This is on my 76 115 300D of course.

Randy

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Cc: fpip...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL


Dear mystery lister -
It seems that you may have a brake fluid leak around the brake switch on top
of the brake fluid reservoir. If that is so, you generally just have to
replace the little rubber cover on the switch. Most of the later systems the
switch is not even replaceable.

Barry



> > I'm about to replace defective brake pressure switch on the  brake
> > reservoir.
> >
> > Any need to be concerned about excessive brake fluid  leakage?
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Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Rolf  wrote:

> MTBguy on benzword/pp is selling his w124 and I believe it to be perfect,
> but he wants 7k for it.
>
>
This one?

*http://tinyurl.com/23z34d7

*I wouldn't call that a perfect car.  He doesn't mention any work on the
rear suspension, just the front (and that's the easy end).  Or whether the
EGR works and the crossover pipe is clean (remember, no way to disable the
EGR on a 2.5 Turbo without extensive modification).  R134a conversion is a
red flag; get ready for that evaporator to blow at the higher pressures.
(I guess I forgot to mention fragile, expensive-to-fix A/C compared to a
123's [that stupid Nippondenso compressor]).

Don't get me wrong, I *love* 124s, but they are not cheap or reliable
compared to 123s, and there's just no such thing as a perfect one out
there---any seller who tells you so is lying or just ignorant of the car's
needs.  I learned a lot of these lessons the hard way.  For example, there
is no way to tell whether the ACC is working correctly in a 124 without a
minimum of several hours' testing by the book.  Even better is to drive the
car for a day in varying temperature and humidity conditions---the system's
behavior is *that* subtle compared to a 123.  You don't realize how it is
supposed to work until you've driven a car where it's all sorted out.  Same
with the rear suspension.   A 124 doesn't feel like any previous Mercedes
when the rear end is working right.  Until you've driven one that is 100%
rebuilt, you have no standard of comparison.*
*
Alex
*
*
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Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Rolf  wrote:

> The car in question was a 93.
>

What's six years when you're talking about cars that are 20-some years old?


>
> I want a car with zero problems. :D
>
>
You won't find one.


> The 124's (87 in particular) are only mildly more complex than a W123 imo.
>
>
Oh, really?  Have you actually tried to diagnose a hard-shifting issue on
one?  Rebuild the rear suspension?  Or change the glow plugs?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Correction, if you turn to the right and noise disappears, right side is
suspect. (No, Your OTHER right!)

-Max

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise

Then the left side is suspect.

-Max 

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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise

The noise does seem to disappear on right turns.

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:18, "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"  wrote:

> Easy to test an axle joint - weave side to side at speed with it's 
> making noise; the bad axle gets louder when it's on the outside (under

> load).
> 
> -Max
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:25 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
> 
> Well the sound is getting easier to make and to hear. 
> 
> At 10-20mph, on a a slight downhill under powered deceleration, it's 
> kind of a thumping. Going up a slight hill with a steady speed (held 
> by slight pedal input), the frequency is the same, but it is
different...
> More like (solid) tappets running while covered with sticky grease.
> 
> I can hear it best with the only the rear passenger window down... 
> With the rear driver window down, nothing.
> 
> I'm now betting axle; passenger, outer cv.
> 
> 
> --
> John W Reames
> jwrea...@comcast.net
> Home: +14106646986
> Mobile: +14437915905
> 
> On Jul 20, 2010, at 20:00, John Reames  wrote:
> 
>> Further observations..
>> 
>> There is definitely a rear end noise.. When slowly stopping or
> starting (ie in a garage), with the windows down, it sounds like a 
> single hit of an exhaust pipe on chassis/body underpanel.
>> 
>> When "coasting"; that is a steady speed on reasonably flat ground
> (slight incline is ok, decline not so much), with the foot off the 
> pedal, at slow (crawl) speeds, the noise is almost identical and is 
> repetitive.  By 10-15mph, each noise is too brief to characterize, but

> the frequency is up to 3-4 per second. By 25-30, it is in the 6-8Hz 
> range, and it's hard to pick up over 30.
>> 
>> At highway speeds, pulling off the pedal will result in a brief
> vibration (1 sec) during downshifts.
>> 
>> Due to rain, I have been unable to pull a wheel and jack it...
>> I hope to be able to tomorrow night when I get home from work.
>> 
>> --
>> John W Reames
>> jwrea...@comcast.net
>> Home: +14106646986
>> Mobile: +14437915905
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 21:05, John Reames  wrote:
>> 
>>> The flex discs have under 10k miles on them (both front and rear.
>>> 
>>> The center bearing felt good when I replaced the discs, and the
> rubber around it was uncracked and pliable (but not mushy). I marked 
> the shaft w/r/t the spiders on the transmission and diff.  The new 
> discs were installed in the same orientation as the old ones, and the 
> shaft was positioned the same w/r/t my placement marks. I cleaned and 
> relubed the centering sleeves; they looked good.
>>> 
>>> I did a visual on the boots when i took the temps, and no cracks to
> be seen, and no grease was to be seen. 
>>> 
>>> Should the wheel be drooping or supported when trying to turn it?
>>> 
>>> How do you check 210 diff mounts? They appear to be bushing type 
>>> that
> are pressed into the rear of the subframe...
>>> 
>>> -j.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> jwrea...@comcast.net
>>> Home: +14106646986
>>> Mobile: +14437915905
>>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 13:30, Peter Frederick 
> wrote:
>>> 
 Do a visual check of the rubber in the driveline (flex disks, 
 boots,
> dif mounts, ete) and replace any that show signs of serious age.  
 
 You can check the drive axle half by jacking it up and holding the
> shaft while attempting to rotate the wheel.  A bad outer joint will 
> have distinct play and "clank" when you do this, just like a bad front

> CV joint.
 
 It's unusual for a joint to fail with an intact boot, but not
> unheard of -- these are  fairly flow flex joints, unlike those on 
> front wheel drive cars.
 
 I do think you are on the right track, though, as whatever is 
 making
> the noise pretty much has to be rotating.
 
 Peter
 
 
 -Original Message-
> From: John Reames 
> Sent: Jul 18, 2010 10:35 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
> 
> It can be reproduced more easily after running a few miles. 
> 
> The best way to reproduce it is to acceler

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Then the left side is suspect.

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise

The noise does seem to disappear on right turns.

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:18, "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"  wrote:

> Easy to test an axle joint - weave side to side at speed with it's 
> making noise; the bad axle gets louder when it's on the outside (under

> load).
> 
> -Max
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:25 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
> 
> Well the sound is getting easier to make and to hear. 
> 
> At 10-20mph, on a a slight downhill under powered deceleration, it's 
> kind of a thumping. Going up a slight hill with a steady speed (held 
> by slight pedal input), the frequency is the same, but it is
different...
> More like (solid) tappets running while covered with sticky grease.
> 
> I can hear it best with the only the rear passenger window down... 
> With the rear driver window down, nothing.
> 
> I'm now betting axle; passenger, outer cv.
> 
> 
> --
> John W Reames
> jwrea...@comcast.net
> Home: +14106646986
> Mobile: +14437915905
> 
> On Jul 20, 2010, at 20:00, John Reames  wrote:
> 
>> Further observations..
>> 
>> There is definitely a rear end noise.. When slowly stopping or
> starting (ie in a garage), with the windows down, it sounds like a 
> single hit of an exhaust pipe on chassis/body underpanel.
>> 
>> When "coasting"; that is a steady speed on reasonably flat ground
> (slight incline is ok, decline not so much), with the foot off the 
> pedal, at slow (crawl) speeds, the noise is almost identical and is 
> repetitive.  By 10-15mph, each noise is too brief to characterize, but

> the frequency is up to 3-4 per second. By 25-30, it is in the 6-8Hz 
> range, and it's hard to pick up over 30.
>> 
>> At highway speeds, pulling off the pedal will result in a brief
> vibration (1 sec) during downshifts.
>> 
>> Due to rain, I have been unable to pull a wheel and jack it...
>> I hope to be able to tomorrow night when I get home from work.
>> 
>> --
>> John W Reames
>> jwrea...@comcast.net
>> Home: +14106646986
>> Mobile: +14437915905
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 21:05, John Reames  wrote:
>> 
>>> The flex discs have under 10k miles on them (both front and rear.
>>> 
>>> The center bearing felt good when I replaced the discs, and the
> rubber around it was uncracked and pliable (but not mushy). I marked 
> the shaft w/r/t the spiders on the transmission and diff.  The new 
> discs were installed in the same orientation as the old ones, and the 
> shaft was positioned the same w/r/t my placement marks. I cleaned and 
> relubed the centering sleeves; they looked good.
>>> 
>>> I did a visual on the boots when i took the temps, and no cracks to
> be seen, and no grease was to be seen. 
>>> 
>>> Should the wheel be drooping or supported when trying to turn it?
>>> 
>>> How do you check 210 diff mounts? They appear to be bushing type 
>>> that
> are pressed into the rear of the subframe...
>>> 
>>> -j.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> John W Reames
>>> jwrea...@comcast.net
>>> Home: +14106646986
>>> Mobile: +14437915905
>>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 13:30, Peter Frederick 
> wrote:
>>> 
 Do a visual check of the rubber in the driveline (flex disks, 
 boots,
> dif mounts, ete) and replace any that show signs of serious age.  
 
 You can check the drive axle half by jacking it up and holding the
> shaft while attempting to rotate the wheel.  A bad outer joint will 
> have distinct play and "clank" when you do this, just like a bad front

> CV joint.
 
 It's unusual for a joint to fail with an intact boot, but not
> unheard of -- these are  fairly flow flex joints, unlike those on 
> front wheel drive cars.
 
 I do think you are on the right track, though, as whatever is 
 making
> the noise pretty much has to be rotating.
 
 Peter
 
 
 -Original Message-
> From: John Reames 
> Sent: Jul 18, 2010 10:35 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
> 
> It can be reproduced more easily after running a few miles. 
> 
> The best way to reproduce it is to accelerate (in drive) and then
> take your foot completely off the pedal. 
> 
> On the highway, when the car slows sufficiently to downshift into
> 4th, a speed dependent rattle can be heard. If this is done in "4", so

> the car cannot downshift, the noise is not heard.
> 
> At about 65-70, the rattling is more like a vibration. I haven't
> tried forcing the car to not downshi

Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Roger that, will add to the list for next order...

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL

>From Rusty, same place you should get all your parts.


Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message -
From: "Alex Chamberlain" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL


> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV 
> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
> 53310  wrote:
>
>> Where do you get the ATE Superblue?
>>
>>
> http://www.drivewerks.com/ is one source, and they have a lot of other
> useful gadgets to drool over---I have a set of their hose clamp pliers

> which
> are invaluable---more expensive than Harbor Freight, but much better
> quality.
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Rack 'em up, boys!

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

Sort of a waste of a fairly rare old bus.  Somebody would have been willing to 
restore it I bet.


I think the RaceTaxi was a better use of an old bus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKV9PVHw2xA

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Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Rolf]

The car in question was a 93.

I want a car with zero problems. :D

The 124's (87 in particular) are only mildly more complex than a W123 imo.


MTBguy on benzword/pp is selling his w124 and I believe it to be 
perfect, but he wants 7k for it.


-Rolf

On 07/22/2010 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Rolf  wrote:

   

I talked to him and its got issues. GP relay/plugs and ac wonkiness. Some
paint issues. If I am getting a loan for a car and paying above kbb
excellent private party it better be like new.


 

I wouldn't believe anyone (with the possible exception of someone on this
list) who said that their '87 300D was "like new."  They ALL have AC
wonkiness (who pulls the dash and does the evaporator and replaces all the
vacuum pods, except Wilton or Peter F.?), shifting issues (ditto for the
rest of the vacuum system), and suspensions in need of a total rebuild.

Just figure you're going to be spending $3,000 or the equivalent in your own
labor to be getting those problems squared away on any car you buy; try to
find a car with good cosmetics, unless you are good at doing paint and
upholstery yourself; and adjust the price you're willing to pay accordingly.

I know some here will disagree with me, but 124s are not like the 123s
you're used to, Rolf... they are far more complicated, high-strung, and
sensitive to correct maintenance, and you should assume, unless there is
hard evidence to the contrary, that anyone selling one is doing so because
they're in over their head and are tired of shelling out $500 a pop to fix
every little thing that breaks.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Momma whats that cracklin sound? CL Crack smoker.

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Rolf  wrote:

> http://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/1830107779.html
>
>
That car's riding a lot lower than stock---if it has the Sportline
suspension option it's worth quite a bit more than average, but not $11K.  I
don't see the Sportline badges behind the front wheels, so unless it was
repainted and the badges weren't put back on, I'd assume the worst, namely
that the stock springs were cut.

(That reminds me that I have a set of NOS H&R lowering springs for a 124
around here somewhere that I don't think I'm ever going to use... I like the
combination of Comfort shocks, stock springs, and 500E sway bars on my 300D,
and my 300E has 500E wheels on it which barely clear the fenders as it is.
 Rolf, you interested?)

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Rolf  wrote:

> I talked to him and its got issues. GP relay/plugs and ac wonkiness. Some
> paint issues. If I am getting a loan for a car and paying above kbb
> excellent private party it better be like new.
>
>
I wouldn't believe anyone (with the possible exception of someone on this
list) who said that their '87 300D was "like new."  They ALL have AC
wonkiness (who pulls the dash and does the evaporator and replaces all the
vacuum pods, except Wilton or Peter F.?), shifting issues (ditto for the
rest of the vacuum system), and suspensions in need of a total rebuild.

Just figure you're going to be spending $3,000 or the equivalent in your own
labor to be getting those problems squared away on any car you buy; try to
find a car with good cosmetics, unless you are good at doing paint and
upholstery yourself; and adjust the price you're willing to pay accordingly.

I know some here will disagree with me, but 124s are not like the 123s
you're used to, Rolf... they are far more complicated, high-strung, and
sensitive to correct maintenance, and you should assume, unless there is
hard evidence to the contrary, that anyone selling one is doing so because
they're in over their head and are tired of shelling out $500 a pop to fix
every little thing that breaks.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Checking for collision repairs (Was Re: 1999 e300rearendnoise)

[John Reames]

Technically it's more like 
Joke coffee|nose>keyboard
Or joke(coffee)|nose>keyboard

Since the joke doesn't pass the nose or end in the keyboard...


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On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:27, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 
 wrote:

> I think you meant coffee+joke=>nose=>keyboard.
> 
> -Max 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Checking for collision repairs (Was Re: 1999
> e300rearendnoise)
> 
> Coffee|nose>keyboard
> 
> 
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> 
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 21:46, Mountain Man  wrote:
> 
>> WILTON wrote:
>>> How's that?  Coffee in/on the keyboard?  I never use the stuff.
>> 
>> No,  you misunderstand.
>> He has one of those new-fangled keyboards that delivers coffee while 
>> he sits there.
>> I think that is what he meant, but most people think I am always
> confused.
>> mao
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise

[John Reames]

The noise does seem to disappear on right turns.

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On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:18, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 
 wrote:

> Easy to test an axle joint - weave side to side at speed with it's
> making noise; the bad axle gets louder when it's on the outside (under
> load). 
> 
> -Max
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:25 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
> 
> Well the sound is getting easier to make and to hear. 
> 
> At 10-20mph, on a a slight downhill under powered deceleration, it's
> kind of a thumping. Going up a slight hill with a steady speed (held by
> slight pedal input), the frequency is the same, but it is different...
> More like (solid) tappets running while covered with sticky grease.
> 
> I can hear it best with the only the rear passenger window down... 
> With the rear driver window down, nothing.
> 
> I'm now betting axle; passenger, outer cv.
> 
> 
> --
> John W Reames
> jwrea...@comcast.net
> Home: +14106646986
> Mobile: +14437915905
> 
> On Jul 20, 2010, at 20:00, John Reames  wrote:
> 
>> Further observations..
>> 
>> There is definitely a rear end noise.. When slowly stopping or
> starting (ie in a garage), with the windows down, it sounds like a
> single hit of an exhaust pipe on chassis/body underpanel.
>> 
>> When "coasting"; that is a steady speed on reasonably flat ground
> (slight incline is ok, decline not so much), with the foot off the
> pedal, at slow (crawl) speeds, the noise is almost identical and is
> repetitive.  By 10-15mph, each noise is too brief to characterize, but
> the frequency is up to 3-4 per second. By 25-30, it is in the 6-8Hz
> range, and it's hard to pick up over 30. 
>> 
>> At highway speeds, pulling off the pedal will result in a brief
> vibration (1 sec) during downshifts.
>> 
>> Due to rain, I have been unable to pull a wheel and jack it...
>> I hope to be able to tomorrow night when I get home from work.
>> 
>> --
>> John W Reames
>> jwrea...@comcast.net
>> Home: +14106646986
>> Mobile: +14437915905
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 21:05, John Reames  wrote:
>> 
>>> The flex discs have under 10k miles on them (both front and rear.
>>> 
>>> The center bearing felt good when I replaced the discs, and the
> rubber around it was uncracked and pliable (but not mushy). I marked the
> shaft w/r/t the spiders on the transmission and diff.  The new discs
> were installed in the same orientation as the old ones, and the shaft
> was positioned the same w/r/t my placement marks. I cleaned and relubed
> the centering sleeves; they looked good.
>>> 
>>> I did a visual on the boots when i took the temps, and no cracks to
> be seen, and no grease was to be seen. 
>>> 
>>> Should the wheel be drooping or supported when trying to turn it?
>>> 
>>> How do you check 210 diff mounts? They appear to be bushing type that
> are pressed into the rear of the subframe...
>>> 
>>> -j.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> John W Reames
>>> jwrea...@comcast.net
>>> Home: +14106646986
>>> Mobile: +14437915905
>>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 13:30, Peter Frederick 
> wrote:
>>> 
 Do a visual check of the rubber in the driveline (flex disks, boots,
> dif mounts, ete) and replace any that show signs of serious age.  
 
 You can check the drive axle half by jacking it up and holding the
> shaft while attempting to rotate the wheel.  A bad outer joint will have
> distinct play and "clank" when you do this, just like a bad front CV
> joint. 
 
 It's unusual for a joint to fail with an intact boot, but not
> unheard of -- these are  fairly flow flex joints, unlike those on front
> wheel drive cars.
 
 I do think you are on the right track, though, as whatever is making
> the noise pretty much has to be rotating.
 
 Peter
 
 
 -Original Message-
> From: John Reames 
> Sent: Jul 18, 2010 10:35 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] 1999 e300 rear end noise
> 
> It can be reproduced more easily after running a few miles. 
> 
> The best way to reproduce it is to accelerate (in drive) and then
> take your foot completely off the pedal. 
> 
> On the highway, when the car slows sufficiently to downshift into
> 4th, a speed dependent rattle can be heard. If this is done in "4", so
> the car cannot downshift, the noise is not heard.
> 
> At about 65-70, the rattling is more like a vibration. I haven't
> tried forcing the car to not downshift at slower speeds, but the timing
> is approximately the same. At slower speeds, the noise is a more
> distinct rattling noise, almost like an exhaust pipe against a frame
> rail, except on the passenger side. (i have tweaked the exhaust
> alignment to create more space between the rail and muffler, and th

Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124

[Rolf]

I talked to him and its got issues. GP relay/plugs and ac wonkiness. 
Some paint issues. If I am getting a loan for a car and paying above kbb 
excellent private party it better be like new.


-Rolf

On 07/21/2010 06:45 PM, WILTON wrote:
Grey/silver; 'gonna hafta let you buy it or let him keep it.  Even if 
it were a "good" color for me, I wouldn't "snatch" it from you, 
though.  I don't "play" dirty.  ;<)))


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rolf Martin-Hoster" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/1850492283.html, He is down to 
4450 in another posting.


-Rolf

WILTON wrote:

Where is that, again?   ;<))

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rolf" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:56 AM
Subject: [MBZ] The bug, I have it. Looking for diesel W124


Found a 125k 93 300d for $4500 with maintenance records. Southern 
car no rust, sound like a good deal? Anyone selling a W124 on here?


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Re: [MBZ] Rack 'em up, boys!

[Allan Streib]

Sort of a waste of a fairly rare old bus.  Somebody would have been willing to 
restore it I bet.

Allan

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:49 -0700, "LWB250"  wrote:
> Interesting retask of a VW van:
> 
> http://www.automotto.org/entry/junk-1965-vw-micro-bus-recycled-to-from-a-wonderful-pool-table/
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] where to buy R12

[Rolf]

Lets see if my next car needs it an we'll talk. I think I paid $30 a can 
shipped.


-Rolf

On 07/21/2010 08:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

if its cheap I am interested.

Rolf Martin-Hoster wrote:

I have 2? 3? cans I will sell.

-Rolf

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Im going to keep my eye out for reasonably priced R12 to stockpile.  
Where is the best place to look besides ebay.  Is there anywhere 
online that sells cylinders or even cans at a reasonable price?  I 
had heard R12 has actually been going down in price.  I dont know if 
that is true or not.





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[MBZ] Rack 'em up, boys!

[LWB250]

Interesting retask of a VW van:

http://www.automotto.org/entry/junk-1965-vw-micro-bus-recycled-to-from-a-wonderful-pool-table/

Dan


  


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Re: [MBZ] DBV: banned lister who came in from the cold

[LWB250]

Sent directly to email Buchenwald.

Mao, I have a grand total of 9 alias accounts there.  I never look at them.  I 
can hand one off to you if you're really interested.

Trust me, it's pretty sedate over there.  You can choose about 6-8 names and 
they're the bulk of the posters, and it's the same old blather.

I do miss Hank and his crispy pancakes, however.

Dan


--- On Thu, 7/22/10, John Reames  wrote:

> From: John Reames 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] DBV: banned lister who came in from the cold
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:19 AM
> Pocket vetoed?
> 
> --
> John W Reames
> jwrea...@comcast.net
> Home: +14106646986
> Mobile: +14437915905
> 
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 21:34, Mitch Haley 
> wrote:
> 
> > Mountain Man wrote:
> >> DBV wrote:
> >>> ps--do I distinguish myself by being on the
> banned list even though I was never banned?
> >> I have never been banned either - that is, banned
> from ritter.
> > 
> > I applied to Ritter in 2002 and never got an answer.
> Does that make me Banned or just Ignored?
> > 
> > Mitch.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[LWB250]

Just go into your Yahoo! mail and mark your undesirable messages as spam.  
Yahoo will toss their messages in the bit bucket for you.

Dan


--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
 wrote:

> From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
> 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:08 AM
> Kaleb, can I block contributions from
> select folks, or is it take them all or none at all?
> 
> -Max
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Van Knutson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:50 PM
> To: mercedes okiebenz
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)
> 
> Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:54 AM
> 
> 
> 
> From: 
> 
> "R A Bennell" 
> 
> 
> 
> To: 
> "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> 
> 
> So I wonder if time has been kind to Dawn? Gravity has a
> way of not being so good for such enhancements.
> 
> Randy
>  
> ***
> We stayed in touch until she was about 18 or 19. ...
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL

[Rusty Cullens]

From Rusty, same place you should get all your parts.



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- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Chamberlain" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL


On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV 
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,

53310  wrote:


Where do you get the ATE Superblue?



http://www.drivewerks.com/ is one source, and they have a lot of other
useful gadgets to drool over---I have a set of their hose clamp pliers 
which

are invaluable---more expensive than Harbor Freight, but much better
quality.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> Kaleb, can I block contributions from select folks, or is it take them all
> or none at all?
>
>
Most (all?) mail software has an option to filter mail by sender and
automatically delete it if needed.  You need to be getting individual
messages from the list, though, rather than digest mode.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 M-B 450SL

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> Where do you get the ATE Superblue?
>
>
http://www.drivewerks.com/ is one source, and they have a lot of other
useful gadgets to drool over---I have a set of their hose clamp pliers which
are invaluable---more expensive than Harbor Freight, but much better
quality.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT 41 years ago (less a few minutes)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you would have to consult your mail program about that.

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

Kaleb, can I block contributions from select folks, or is it take them all or 
none at all?

-Max


  


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