Re: [MBZ] New HF coupons
Got it, thanks Rich, I'll pass on to the interested party... How do I crack the code so that I can get these coupons? I've signed up at least three different times, I wonder if my ISP is blocking the HF email? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New HF coupons sorry 179.99, it was Max, I forwarded it on to him. --R On 10/21/2010 4:52 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: just arrived via email, engine hoist 199.99 -- who wanted the coupon? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5688 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101022/570802fe/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New HF coupons
I think I signed up on line at some point, and at the store they have something you can fill out to get the catalog mailers and email stuff too I think. Not sure which did the deed, but I've been getting them for some time. --R On 10/22/2010 6:54 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Got it, thanks Rich, I'll pass on to the interested party... How do I crack the code so that I can get these coupons? I've signed up at least three different times, I wonder if my ISP is blocking the HF email? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New HF coupons sorry 179.99, it was Max, I forwarded it on to him. --R On 10/21/2010 4:52 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: just arrived via email, engine hoist 199.99 -- who wanted the coupon? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5688 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101022/570802fe/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD)
So I got the new caliper on and hooked up, and system bled as best I could (there seems to be a lot of air leakage around the bleed nipples) with new fluid. The pedal feel is not a lot different from before, still seems to have about an inch of travel before getting much braking, and seems a bit soft though the brakes work OK. Might this be a master cylinder issue, or is that just the way they are? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD)
Check the bushing on the brake pedal where it meets the rod that goes into the booster. If this is missing or deteriorated then you get more travel before braking. Otherwise is sounds like you need to bleed more. Did you bleed all 4? -Rolf On 10/22/2010 7:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: So I got the new caliper on and hooked up, and system bled as best I could (there seems to be a lot of air leakage around the bleed nipples) with new fluid. The pedal feel is not a lot different from before, still seems to have about an inch of travel before getting much braking, and seems a bit soft though the brakes work OK. Might this be a master cylinder issue, or is that just the way they are? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD)
Yes, all 4 in the proper sequence, twice. I'm thinking I should put some teflon tape on the bleeders to seal up those threads a bit and keep the air from getting in my bleed tube (using a Mityvac), though I don't think it is going back into the calipers. At first they were a bit mushy after I put on the new caliper and filled it and bled it a bit, so I went around the car again and then it was better, pretty much as it was before I started the exercise. I'll take a look at the bushing, but the pedal does not seem to have play in it, just takes some travel to start brake engagement. I guess they aren't touchy! --R On 10/22/2010 7:21 AM, Rolf wrote: Check the bushing on the brake pedal where it meets the rod that goes into the booster. If this is missing or deteriorated then you get more travel before braking. Otherwise is sounds like you need to bleed more. Did you bleed all 4? -Rolf On 10/22/2010 7:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: So I got the new caliper on and hooked up, and system bled as best I could (there seems to be a lot of air leakage around the bleed nipples) with new fluid. The pedal feel is not a lot different from before, still seems to have about an inch of travel before getting much braking, and seems a bit soft though the brakes work OK. Might this be a master cylinder issue, or is that just the way they are? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Crocodile crashes plane
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/democraticrepublicofcongo/8078612/Aircraft-crashes-after-crocodile-on-board-escapes-and-sparks-panic.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD)
Rich, I suspect your bleeding method isn't working too well. I have the Power Bleeder which pressurizes the reservoir, if you'd like to borrow it. You'll need to make sure the two rubber sensor caps on top of the reservoir are in good shape prior to pressurizing. The old school way of two people working together, one pressuring via pumping the brake pedal and the holding with the second opens/closes the bleed valve to allow fluid/air to escape works well but you risk destroying the seals in the master cylinder if fluid changes have been neglected and there is gunk beyond the normal range of travel that the seals hit when the pedal sinks to the floor. I used to use the gravity drain method, and just attach hose from bleeder to a drain bottle or can and let physics pull the fluid out. Slow, but safe and effective. Now I can do the job with MORE POWER! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD) Yes, all 4 in the proper sequence, twice. I'm thinking I should put some teflon tape on the bleeders to seal up those threads a bit and keep the air from getting in my bleed tube (using a Mityvac), though I don't think it is going back into the calipers. At first they were a bit mushy after I put on the new caliper and filled it and bled it a bit, so I went around the car again and then it was better, pretty much as it was before I started the exercise. I'll take a look at the bushing, but the pedal does not seem to have play in it, just takes some travel to start brake engagement. I guess they aren't touchy! --R On 10/22/2010 7:21 AM, Rolf wrote: Check the bushing on the brake pedal where it meets the rod that goes into the booster. If this is missing or deteriorated then you get more travel before braking. Otherwise is sounds like you need to bleed more. Did you bleed all 4? -Rolf On 10/22/2010 7:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: So I got the new caliper on and hooked up, and system bled as best I could (there seems to be a lot of air leakage around the bleed nipples) with new fluid. The pedal feel is not a lot different from before, still seems to have about an inch of travel before getting much braking, and seems a bit soft though the brakes work OK. Might this be a master cylinder issue, or is that just the way they are? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5688 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101022/2ecd32f4/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New HF coupons
OK, I'll be heading over there after work, will sign up and see if that does the trick. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New HF coupons I think I signed up on line at some point, and at the store they have something you can fill out to get the catalog mailers and email stuff too I think. Not sure which did the deed, but I've been getting them for some time. --R On 10/22/2010 6:54 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Got it, thanks Rich, I'll pass on to the interested party... How do I crack the code so that I can get these coupons? I've signed up at least three different times, I wonder if my ISP is blocking the HF email? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New HF coupons sorry 179.99, it was Max, I forwarded it on to him. --R On 10/21/2010 4:52 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: just arrived via email, engine hoist 199.99 -- who wanted the coupon? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5688 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2 0101022/570802fe/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5688 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101022/112ca9c8/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D
I thought his problem was hard to engage when standing still. Thick oil would only cause grinding while the car is rolling. IT would actually help to slow the gears down and make engagement easier when cold while standing still. My vote goes for dry grease on the pilot bushing, gunk on the shaft and low fluid/air in the hydraulics. In that order. Check the hydraulic situation first cause it's the easiest. Then go for the others cause they need tranny removal. While you have the tranny out you will want to replace at least the disk and throwout bearing. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:08:18 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D Message-ID: 4cc08fa2.5030...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dieselhead, et al. No NOT agree! If the clutch disc will not slide easily on the splines, it will drag on the flywheel or Clutch cover, causing crunchy engagement, esp. when cold, and cause there to be a lot of pedal travel in an attempt to free up the disc. Not so? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD)
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Rich, I suspect your bleeding method isn't working too well. I have the Power Bleeder which pressurizes the reservoir, if you'd like to borrow it. You'll need to make sure the two rubber sensor caps on top of the reservoir are in good shape prior to pressurizing. If he has ABS, that might be more necessary than optional. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Crocodile crashes plane
archer wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/democraticrepublicofcongo/8078612/Aircraft-crashes-after-crocodile-on-board-escapes-and-sparks-panic.html A fatal crash from the plane going nose-heavy? I would have assumed the pilot could deal with that by pulling up and deploying flaps. It must have been incredibly nose heavy. If they'd run to the back of the plane, I could see that making the plane very unstable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New Truck
OK, I still Lurk Picked up my 'New' truck last evening. 08 Dodge with 6.7L Cummings/auto Very nice, drove about 100 miles home, big torque, compression brake is impressive and will be a great hope while traveling. Home,doing SHMBO laundry today so she'll be happy tonight. -- Pete Arnold ‹(•¿•)› 31' Forest River, Cardinal Fiver '08 RAM250 4x4, 6.7 Smoke Motor Member of Escapees National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Truck
Cool! To borrow another phrase from the 70s: Keep on Truckin. Keep us informed of your escapades. Glad you are lurking. OK, I still Lurk Picked up my 'New' truck last evening. 08 Dodge with 6.7L Cummings/auto Very nice, drove about 100 miles home, big torque, compression brake is impressive and will be a great hope while traveling. Home,doing SHMBO laundry today so she'll be happy tonight. -- Pete Arnold Ð(*¿*)ð 31' Forest River, Cardinal Fiver '08 RAM250 4x4, 6.7 Smoke Motor Member of Escapees National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Interesting trends in the IT world
Interesting IT trends: Indeed, according to a new report from NSS Labs, an independent research lab, cybercriminals have between a 10% to 45% chance of getting past your AV with web malware, with the variation depending on the product a consumer chooses. Also depending on the product, cybercriminals have between 25% to 97% chance of compromising your machine using exploits. Who likes those odds? From: http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/client/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227900443cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-10-22_html http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=112m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Schwartz On Security: Can Apple Minimalism Stop Botnets? Why applying Steve Jobs' iPhone walled garden model to limit what PCs can do makes sense for combating cybercriminals. More interesting stuff: Win 7 Licenses Soar; Apple Digs Java's Grave See below: Friday, October 22, 2010 QUOTE OF THE DAY... High expectations are the key to everything. -- Sam Walton TODAY'S TOP STORY http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=113m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Microsoft Sales Of Windows 7 Licenses Hit 240M Software giant's fastest-selling OS ever surpasses Vista in global PC ubiquity. RELATED INSIGHTS * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=109m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Marketplace For Windows Phone 7 Rich With Apps * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=119m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Top 5 Reasons Windows Phone 7 Will/Won't Succeed * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=110m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Microsoft Signs NYC To Cloud Computing Deal ALSO SEE http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=111m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Apple Digs Grave For DVDs, Java By leaving legacy technologies behind, Apple aims to strengthen its hand. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=112m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Schwartz On Security: Can Apple Minimalism Stop Botnets? Why applying Steve Jobs' iPhone walled garden model to limit what PCs can do makes sense for combating cybercriminals. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=114m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Global CIO: Inside Steve Jobs' Head: The Supremacy Of Software Jobs reveals some of the strategic thinking that's made Apple perhaps the most innovative and wealthy company on the planet. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=96m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Innovation Mandate Gets Glenn Beck Shout-Out The Fox News commentator, citing InformationWeek Analytics research, says the U.S. has gotten soft. But are we underestimating just how technically strong we really are? http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=108m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Clover Holdings To Pay $13 Million For Sex.com The provocative URL was put up for sale after owner Escom filed for bankruptcy in July. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=94m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Intel Bets On Aurora Feint In Mobile Gaming Investment will help OpenFeint platform expand its push into the Apple iPhone and Android smartphones. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=93m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0NASA's James Webb Telescope Awaits Key Instrument Test Mid-InfraRed Instrument must show the right stuff in a space-simulated environment before it flies aboard the Hubble successor. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=92m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Interop: Hybrid Clouds Will Rule Public clouds and private clouds each offer distinct advantages, which is why businesses are likely to embrace both for the foreseeable future. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=37m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0YouTube For Android Updated To Version 2 Google has recently published YouTube 2.0 for the Android platform. The new YouTube app has an improved user interface and is no longer tied to core system updates. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=39m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Army Revamps Smartphone Program Security, fragility, and power concerns are being considered in the next phase of the program, which aims to arm soldiers with mobile technology. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
I don't like permatex 2 because it is impossible to clean off. (the next time) The rtv stuff is ok if you keep it very minimal. I am not sure about the OM60x engines, but OM 61x and OM621 engines were assembled with no pan gasket and no sealer. I've never had a 60x pan off and have not yet read that section of the cd. Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB related IT trend
This is about MB Financial. Pretty interesting. http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227900295 Things are changing in the Enterprise IT world. Where the only constant.. ... ... ... ... ... ... .Is a state of change. (LF, 1972) Plenty of change going on now. MORE NON-MB IT STUFF: (Seems to be a lot of it today for some reason.) http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=62m=35910282r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3ODgxMDkS1mt=1rt=0Global CIO: Apple Storms The Enterprise As iPad And iPhone Surge By Bob Evans Apple's massive penetration of the world's largest IT departments raises the question: will CIOs drive the future or preserve the status quo? http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=61m=35910282r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3ODgxMDkS1mt=1rt=0Innovation Mandate Gets Glenn Beck Shout-Out By Rob Preston The Fox News commentator, citing InformationWeek Analytics research, says the U.S. has gotten soft. But are we underestimating just how technically strong we really are? Global CIO: Steve Jobs Declares War On Google By Bob Evans Emphasizing great products and customer experiences vs. Google's fragmented approach, Jobs calls out Google as self-centered, disingenuous, and off-target. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=43m=35910282r=MTI2ODYyMDQwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3ODgxMDkS1mt=1rt=0Office 365: Microsoft's Next Big Cloud Platform By Doug Henschen Consolidating brands and extending its services, Redmond makes sense of its online productivity offerings. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
IF required by the service manual, yes. If the SM says new gasket then you only need to do that. Of course, you can always go the belt/suspenders route, but then the next poor fellow who needs to remove that pan/gasket has a larger mess to clean up. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of bb...@crone.us Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MacBook question
MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D
Long pedal travel and grinding for gear engagement are classic symptoms for failing clutch master cylinder or slave cylinder, both are very common and relatively easy to fix, and FAR easier than pulling the transmission to check the disk, clutch pressure plate, and bearing. Check for any evidence of wetness at the clutch MC (located right above/behind the clutch pedal under the dash) and then check at the slave cylinder. I like to touch any sign of wetness with a clean finger and then put that finger on the tip of my tongue; brake fluid is very bitter and easy to identify this way. If you find any evidence, replace the suspect component(s). -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D I thought his problem was hard to engage when standing still. Thick oil would only cause grinding while the car is rolling. IT would actually help to slow the gears down and make engagement easier when cold while standing still. My vote goes for dry grease on the pilot bushing, gunk on the shaft and low fluid/air in the hydraulics. In that order. Check the hydraulic situation first cause it's the easiest. Then go for the others cause they need tranny removal. While you have the tranny out you will want to replace at least the disk and throwout bearing. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:08:18 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D Message-ID: 4cc08fa2.5030...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dieselhead, et al. No NOT agree! If the clutch disc will not slide easily on the splines, it will drag on the flywheel or Clutch cover, causing crunchy engagement, esp. when cold, and cause there to be a lot of pedal travel in an attempt to free up the disc. Not so? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
I disagree that RTV stuff is OK for sealing anything that touches engine oil. It is specifically prohibited for turbo-diesel engines somewhere in MB literature, I think in the 1987 Introduction to Service book for the 124 diesel cars, which I don't have with me at the moment. I'm going to look that up later and provide the reference. The reason it is prohibited is because the small pieces of RTV that can be shed will circulate with the oil (they don't settle out). If the oil bypass filter opens, those pieces of RTV can then clog the oil cooling jets which cool each piston, which results in melted/seized piston. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech I don't like permatex 2 because it is impossible to clean off. (the next time) The rtv stuff is ok if you keep it very minimal. I am not sure about the OM60x engines, but OM 61x and OM621 engines were assembled with no pan gasket and no sealer. I've never had a 60x pan off and have not yet read that section of the cd. Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LBJ woes
I'll do that when I get home (I'm on vacation this week). Basically, you need to grind down the head so that it will fit inside the steering knuckle and weld some triangular plates to the sides so the damned cheapo casting won't bend all to h... and back when you try to push the joint in. If you take the boot off, the hole in the tool is the right size to push the joint in without an adapter. If you are feeling really frisky, bore out the coarse threaded hole and re-tap for a fine thread and make a new screw -- might be somewhat easier to use that way. Peter On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Can you send me photos of the modified press and any other bushings used on the 126? I need to do that soon. Thanks! If you can provide drawings/dimensions of the parts you welded on, that would be helpful also. Jim, can you send dimensions of the bushing you made? Thanks! ID OD and length. You will need an adapter to push the old joint out, as none of the ones in the box are the correct size. You can use the supplied ones to push the new one in. I didn't have any trouble with using the HF tool as is, other than needing to tap a couple times to get it started back in. However, it is NOT possible to use that tool to get a W126/W123 ball joint installed without extensive modifications. We have sacrificed my original tool for that job (which is quite easy now), but I have to get another one to do the ball joints in the 88 TE as the necessary re-enforcement plates now prevent getting the tool over the control arm in the W124. As noted, the notch must point toward the centerline of the car. Sometimes there are two, so you have to guess which way it goes, but they ARE directional. I strongly recommend using the PRESS to remove and install the joints, do NOT hammer on the control arm if you can avoid it, as this can do nasty things to it. Under no circumstances should you use heat at all, especially not heat to red hot, as this will cause cracks, deformation, and can alter the hardness and cause deformation in use along with loose fitting ball joints. They are press fit, and if the press is correctly aligned to push straight, they will come in and out with minimal fuss. Peter -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 19, 2010 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] LBJ woes You need the 3 in one for sure. I used that and a BFH on the 87 300D in April. You can find the running commentary in the archive. The commentary on doing the rear subframe mounts is in there also. The press as supplied is enough to get the new joints in. If you have an oreally autozona or advanced or other FLAPS in town, you can rent their press for free. The oreally one is exactly the same as the HF one, except for the case. To get the old bj out, take off the boot and put a socket over the pin and whack the socket with a hammer. You want to beat on the ball holder, not the forging. The other alternative is to saw off the pin. I used the c press to push in the new joint. The notch on the new ball joint points toward the centerline of the car. I also beat on the c press to assist it and prevent springing the press. (tighten, whack, tighten, whack etc.) I was able to combine the HF sale and the 20% off coupon to buy the BJ press. But I used the oreally one on my car. Had planned to use the HF one on the 126, but so far have spent the summer refurbishing the garage. Someone had a design to use water pipe to make an adapter for removal. I would recommend buying one or two new boots for the BJ from Rusty when you order. There is a fair chance that you may cut a boot while pressing in the new joint. Check to see the boots are the correct ones before starting. I ended up with tie rod end boots. After consulting with the Finance Minister and the Secretary of Labor (SWMBO), I'm going to just replace the ball joints. I see that Harbor Freight has their ball joint press kits on sale, which of these three should I get? http://www.harborfreight.com/four-wheel-drive-ball-joint-service- kit-4065.ht ml http://www.harborfreight.com/3-in-1-ball-joint-u-joint-c-frame- press-service -kit-38335.html http://www.harborfreight.com/14-piece-master-ball-joint-adapter- set-66958.ht ml -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] LBJ woes I've got play in the steering, but haven't decisively narrowed it down yet (still need to replace center drag link). I tested one LBJ using a long pry bar and suitable fulcrum, perhaps I really need an assistant to do it right. Bottom line is the steering is stiff with some play, two lower ball joints are
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
H, now I do seem to remember my brother saying there was a gasket in the engine kit -- best to use one if the FSM says so. Still a real bugger to get off, so it probably has sealant in it. I'm losing my short term memory, I think -- it's the 61x engines that have no gasket. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: IF required by the service manual, yes. If the SM says new gasket then you only need to do that. Of course, you can always go the belt/suspenders route, but then the next poor fellow who needs to remove that pan/gasket has a larger mess to clean up. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of bb...@crone.us Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Better be very straight -- if warped, it's not going to seal. The correct sealant is a black RTV, don't remember which one. Small amounts only, the pan and block are machined very flat so you won't need much. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:02 AM, bb...@crone.us wrote: Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
Hold the power button down until is shuts off, or pull the battery and power plug (oops, can't pull the battery, eh?). Check the preferences in mail, it's possible you typed something in wrong and it cannot connect. There is also a connection doctor in there somewhere that may help. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD)
I would make sure the reservoir is completely full and bleed again -- the back chamber is filled by overflowing the front one, and it's quite easy to have it go dry. A MityVac works great, so long as you remember that you are going to pull air in the bleeder valves and won't ever get air free fluid. Once you get clean fluid out and there are no big air bubbles, it's full and free of air, you can ignore the stream if tiny bubbles leaking in the threads. Big slugs of air, you have a leak or the reservoir is going empty on you. I've chased that particular problem for ages once or twice. The pedal, with the engine running, should have about an inch of free play, become firm quickly, and stay firm, with added pressure resulting in more braking effect with very little movement downward. A sinking pedal under light pressure, mysterious loss of fluid, no brakes unless you pump them, and excessive travel with less than normal braking power all indicate a bad master cylinder, usually from worn out seals on the back piston. Check to make sure the rear pads are clean and move easily -- they get stuck much more readily than the fronts, and can give you goofy brakes, too. Lack of wear on the rear rotors is a hint here. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Rich, I suspect your bleeding method isn't working too well. I have the Power Bleeder which pressurizes the reservoir, if you'd like to borrow it. You'll need to make sure the two rubber sensor caps on top of the reservoir are in good shape prior to pressurizing. The old school way of two people working together, one pressuring via pumping the brake pedal and the holding with the second opens/ closes the bleed valve to allow fluid/air to escape works well but you risk destroying the seals in the master cylinder if fluid changes have been neglected and there is gunk beyond the normal range of travel that the seals hit when the pedal sinks to the floor. I used to use the gravity drain method, and just attach hose from bleeder to a drain bottle or can and let physics pull the fluid out. Slow, but safe and effective. Now I can do the job with MORE POWER! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes- boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 7:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD) Yes, all 4 in the proper sequence, twice. I'm thinking I should put some teflon tape on the bleeders to seal up those threads a bit and keep the air from getting in my bleed tube (using a Mityvac), though I don't think it is going back into the calipers. At first they were a bit mushy after I put on the new caliper and filled it and bled it a bit, so I went around the car again and then it was better, pretty much as it was before I started the exercise. I'll take a look at the bushing, but the pedal does not seem to have play in it, just takes some travel to start brake engagement. I guess they aren't touchy! --R On 10/22/2010 7:21 AM, Rolf wrote: Check the bushing on the brake pedal where it meets the rod that goes into the booster. If this is missing or deteriorated then you get more travel before braking. Otherwise is sounds like you need to bleed more. Did you bleed all 4? -Rolf On 10/22/2010 7:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: So I got the new caliper on and hooked up, and system bled as best I could (there seems to be a lot of air leakage around the bleed nipples) with new fluid. The pedal feel is not a lot different from before, still seems to have about an inch of travel before getting much braking, and seems a bit soft though the brakes work OK. Might this be a master cylinder issue, or is that just the way they are? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5688 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20101022/2ecd32f4/attachment.bin
Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting trends in the IT world
Just as civil defense should have been important during the cold war (and I feel our federal government was remiss in not promoting civil defense more than it did), cyber defense is now extremely important and again our federal government will probably do little or nothing to promote it. Individual users can do a great deal simply by (a) keeping their software up-to-date and patched and (b) using some type of AV/firewall. I'm recommending MS Security Essentials to my family and friends using MS OS; free, doesn't slow down your PC as much as the others, and does a pretty good job. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:23 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Interesting trends in the IT world Interesting IT trends: Indeed, according to a new report from NSS Labs, an independent research lab, cybercriminals have between a 10% to 45% chance of getting past your AV with web malware, with the variation depending on the product a consumer chooses. Also depending on the product, cybercriminals have between 25% to 97% chance of compromising your machine using exploits. Who likes those odds? From: http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/client/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=227900443cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-10-22_html http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=112m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Schwartz On Security: Can Apple Minimalism Stop Botnets? Why applying Steve Jobs' iPhone walled garden model to limit what PCs can do makes sense for combating cybercriminals. More interesting stuff: Win 7 Licenses Soar; Apple Digs Java's Grave See below: Friday, October 22, 2010 QUOTE OF THE DAY... High expectations are the key to everything. -- Sam Walton TODAY'S TOP STORY http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=113m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Microsoft Sales Of Windows 7 Licenses Hit 240M Software giant's fastest-selling OS ever surpasses Vista in global PC ubiquity. RELATED INSIGHTS * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=109m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Marketplace For Windows Phone 7 Rich With Apps * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=119m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Top 5 Reasons Windows Phone 7 Will/Won't Succeed * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=110m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Microsoft Signs NYC To Cloud Computing Deal ALSO SEE http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=111m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Apple Digs Grave For DVDs, Java By leaving legacy technologies behind, Apple aims to strengthen its hand. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=112m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Schwartz On Security: Can Apple Minimalism Stop Botnets? Why applying Steve Jobs' iPhone walled garden model to limit what PCs can do makes sense for combating cybercriminals. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=114m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Global CIO: Inside Steve Jobs' Head: The Supremacy Of Software Jobs reveals some of the strategic thinking that's made Apple perhaps the most innovative and wealthy company on the planet. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=96m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Innovation Mandate Gets Glenn Beck Shout-Out The Fox News commentator, citing InformationWeek Analytics research, says the U.S. has gotten soft. But are we underestimating just how technically strong we really are? http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=108m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Clover Holdings To Pay $13 Million For Sex.com The provocative URL was put up for sale after owner Escom filed for bankruptcy in July. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=94m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Intel Bets On Aurora Feint In Mobile Gaming Investment will help OpenFeint platform expand its push into the Apple iPhone and Android smartphones. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=93m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0NASA's James Webb Telescope Awaits Key Instrument Test Mid-InfraRed Instrument must show the right stuff in a space-simulated environment before it flies aboard the Hubble successor. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=92m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Interop: Hybrid Clouds Will Rule Public clouds and private clouds each offer distinct advantages, which is why businesses are likely to embrace both for the foreseeable future. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=37m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0YouTube For Android Updated To Version 2 Google has recently published YouTube 2.0 for the Android platform. The new YouTube app has an improved user interface and is no longer
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
First, try the three finger salute, that is command, option and escape at the same time. That brings up the force quit window. In the Force Quit window, you can choose the email program that is hanging. The default forced shutdown is to hold the start button down until the machine shuts down. The third and final option, when the first two don't work, is to remove the battery, wait 10 seconds or more, the put the battery back in. MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W107 resale values are in the tank
I was watching a Mecum Auto Auction (I think it was from 2009) in which a rust-free 1987 560SL went on the block. The mileage wasn't specified, but to all appearances there were no issues either cosmetically or mechanically. It was white with a blue leather interior. The hammer came down at $7800!! In contrast, a variety of US muscle cars from the 80s, including Firebirds and Corvettes, sold for considerably more. This confirms my opinion that the design of the W107 lacks aesthetic appeal. In contrast, a restored white/red W113 280SL is being offered locally at $45K. I have a hard time believing that a pristine late W107 will ever be worth anywhere near this amount. So here is the diesel content: By what year will a W123 300TD be worth MORE than a 1987 or later W107 560SL? Or will this ever happen? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting trends in the IT world
cybercriminals have between 25% to 97% chance of compromising your machine using exploits. At best a 25% chance of compromising your machine is not acceptable. The article does not say if that is specific to winders or if it includes Mac and Linux.Either way, is is an unacceptable level if insecurity. 10 to 45% chance of getting past antivirus with web based malware is also an unacceptable level for just one type of attack. IMHO. Just as civil defense should have been important during the cold war (and I feel our federal government was remiss in not promoting civil defense more than it did), cyber defense is now extremely important and again our federal government will probably do little or nothing to promote it. Individual users can do a great deal simply by (a) keeping their software up-to-date and patched and (b) using some type of AV/firewall. I'm recommending MS Security Essentials to my family and friends using MS OS; free, doesn't slow down your PC as much as the others, and does a pretty good job. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:23 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Interesting trends in the IT world Interesting IT trends: Indeed, according to a new report from NSS Labs, an independent research lab, cybercriminals have between a 10% to 45% chance of getting past your AV with web malware, with the variation depending on the product a consumer chooses. Also depending on the product, cybercriminals have between 25% to 97% chance of compromising your machine using exploits. Who likes those odds? From: http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/client/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=227900443cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-10-22_html http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=112m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Schwartz On Security: Can Apple Minimalism Stop Botnets? Why applying Steve Jobs' iPhone walled garden model to limit what PCs can do makes sense for combating cybercriminals. More interesting stuff: Win 7 Licenses Soar; Apple Digs Java's Grave See below: Friday, October 22, 2010 QUOTE OF THE DAY... High expectations are the key to everything. -- Sam Walton TODAY'S TOP STORY http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=113m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Microsoft Sales Of Windows 7 Licenses Hit 240M Software giant's fastest-selling OS ever surpasses Vista in global PC ubiquity. RELATED INSIGHTS * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=109m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Marketplace For Windows Phone 7 Rich With Apps * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=119m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Top 5 Reasons Windows Phone 7 Will/Won't Succeed * http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=110m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Microsoft Signs NYC To Cloud Computing Deal ALSO SEE http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=111m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Apple Digs Grave For DVDs, Java By leaving legacy technologies behind, Apple aims to strengthen its hand. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=112m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Schwartz On Security: Can Apple Minimalism Stop Botnets? Why applying Steve Jobs' iPhone walled garden model to limit what PCs can do makes sense for combating cybercriminals. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=114m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Global CIO: Inside Steve Jobs' Head: The Supremacy Of Software Jobs reveals some of the strategic thinking that's made Apple perhaps the most innovative and wealthy company on the planet. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=96m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Innovation Mandate Gets Glenn Beck Shout-Out The Fox News commentator, citing InformationWeek Analytics research, says the U.S. has gotten soft. But are we underestimating just how technically strong we really are? http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=108m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMD QwNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Clover Holdings To Pay $13 Million For Sex.com The provocative URL was put up for sale after owner Escom filed for bankruptcy in July. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=94m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0Intel Bets On Aurora Feint In Mobile Gaming Investment will help OpenFeint platform expand its push into the Apple iPhone and Android smartphones. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=93m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ wNwS2b=0j=ODQ3NDMyOTQS1mt=1rt=0NASA's James Webb Telescope Awaits Key Instrument Test Mid-InfraRed Instrument must show the right stuff in a space-simulated environment before it flies aboard the Hubble successor. http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/ctt?kn=92m=35908418r=MTI2ODYyMDQ
Re: [MBZ] W107 resale values are in the tank
I have a hard time believing that a pristine late W107 will ever be worth anywhere near this amount. [$45k] Probably never, as about 250,000 107's were made. So here is the diesel content: By what year will a W123 300TD be worth MORE than a 1987 or later W107 560SL? Or will this ever happen? Well, whenever 25mpg is sufficiently more interesting than 15mpg, enough so as to counter its convertible-ness. We may be down in the triple digits, though! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
On a Mac running any version of OSX, press Command-Option-Esc to bring up the task list. You can kill a deviant process from there. It should almost NEVER be necessary to use the power key. You can also do this from Terminal... get the task list using the top command and note the PID (process ID) for the deviant. Top looks like this: Processes: 63 total, 3 running, 1 stuck, 59 sleeping... 261 threads08:48:56 Load Avg: 0.07, 0.10, 0.08CPU usage: 4.85% user, 3.40% sys, 91.75% idle SharedLibs: num =7, resident = 78M code, 2108K data, 5132K linkedit. MemRegions: num = 7844, resident = 293M + 20M private, 188M shared. PhysMem: 469M wired, 574M active, 87M inactive, 1399M used, 2697M free. VM: 8654M + 387M 56662(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE 262 PubSubAgen 0.0% 0:00.01 259 27 488K 3476K 1528K21M 259 Mail 0.0% 0:02.19 14 233- 348 19M37M41M 416M 258 top 3.6% 0:01.16 120 29 572K 188K 1156K18M 247 bash 0.0% 0:00.00 114 19 304K 184K 936K18M 246 login0.0% 0:00.01 117 55 340K 228K 1112K19M 245 mdworker 0.0% 0:00.13 351 32 768K 5532K 2892K32M 243 Safari 7.3% 0:05.40 8 133300 22M18M32M 394M 238 SyncServer 0.0% 0:01.47 251 88 16M 6096K18M39M 229 AppleSpell 0.0% 0:00.03 123 30 604K 6592K 2068K34M 174 Terminal 1.1% 0:02.93 4 110196 3852K23M11M 372M 173 iCal 0.0% 0:01.44 3 107227 14M22M31M 379M 172 ATSServer0.0% 0:00.12 265 73 576K 1260K 2056K54M 169 LaunchCFMA 0.3% 1:20.63 7 169571 50M28M70M 571M 159 Canon UFR0.0% 0:00.19 168 52 524K 2268K 2488K 281M 158 LaunchCFMA 0.2% 0:09.80 268120 7712K 6296K13M 351M You can then kill the deviant process using kill followed by the PID for the thing that's locked up. So, for example, in the list above Mail has the PID of 259. To kill Mail, just type kill 259. Note that Mail may launch companion processes (eg. PubSubAgen), so killing Mail on its own might not be enough. That's why it's generally better to use the Cmd-Option-Escape method. It does a better job of nabbing all the sub-processes. When you have the mail app open, use the Activity Viewer window to see what it is doing. If you have set it up to use IMAP it may have been doing a sync with the server. That can take a long time the first time if there's lots of mail; IMAP isn't the speediest protocol. D. Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:47:21 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] MacBook question Hold the power button down until is shuts off, or pull the battery and power plug (oops, can't pull the battery, eh?). Check the preferences in mail, it's possible you typed something in wrong and it cannot connect. There is also a connection doctor in there somewhere that may help. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting trends in the IT world
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Can you site a reference for black RTV as correct for this application according to MB... The service manual on CD for the OM603 engine says 'replace gasket' for the oil pan, no mention of any sealant that I can find. Procedure 01-7500hz. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Better be very straight -- if warped, it's not going to seal. The correct sealant is a black RTV, don't remember which one. Small amounts only, the pan and block are machined very flat so you won't need much. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:02 AM, bb...@crone.us wrote: Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
On 21/10/2010 3:53 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: ignoring the fact that opinions of style arehighly subjective,it needs to be acknowledged that there's some form following function involved.it's not just simply a matter of strong;as someone pointed out in an even later later post, thinner goes against the school of thought that there needs to be some material thickness involved to help slow down the momentum and resulting impact of the brain bouncing off of the inside skull. think of that compressible foam as analogous to the crumple zone we now believe needs to be designed in for automobile safety, and it should be apparent why helmets have evolved to tend to look like they do. cheers! e On 21/Oct/10 13:31, R A Bennell wrote: On 21/10/2010 3:22 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: good luck defining geeky or not cool', and getting manufacturing cycles that would be able to put out product as fast as that definition changes,..;-) cheers! e On 21/Oct/10 09:15, R A Bennell wrote: What we really need is for someone to invent a better bike helmet that does not look geeky. Then people would be more likely to wear them. My sons, who are now in their 20's, were reluctant to wear helmets as teens because it was not cool. Randy ___ Well, as I said in a later post, thinner and stronger would be better than the current thick models that look so bulky. Randy I understand totally what you are saying, BUT, my point is that people would be more likely to use them if they did not look so bulky and wierd. It is almost like wearing a sign that says Nerd! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
On 21/10/2010 7:04 PM, OK Don wrote: Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Tim, I've never done an OM603 oil pan, but I have read the prohibition in the service manual regarding use of RTV. RTV has a habit of shedding particles which can then plug oil passages (specifically the piston cooling jets) which leads to the proverbial melted pistons. Try to find something as similar as possible to the official MB sealer, IF required. -Max Permatex? or something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Permatex Aviation Gasket Maker is what I used to mate the halves of air cooled VW engines; I'm sure that would work fine if used, but the book only says to replace gasket and makes no mention of any sealant. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech On 21/10/2010 7:04 PM, OK Don wrote: Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Tim, I've never done an OM603 oil pan, but I have read the prohibition in the service manual regarding use of RTV. RTV has a habit of shedding particles which can then plug oil passages (specifically the piston cooling jets) which leads to the proverbial melted pistons. Try to find something as similar as possible to the official MB sealer, IF required. -Max Permatex? or something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
that's all subjective; in many circles, riding with a helmet is normal. but either way, that's only a problem for people that are worried about what other people think.;-) cheers! e On 22/Oct/10 09:18, R A Bennell wrote: I understand totally what you are saying, BUT, my point is that people would be more likely to use them if they did not look so bulky and wierd. It is almost like wearing a sign that says Nerd! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brakes, again (300SD)
Rich Thomas wrote: I'm thinking I should put some teflon tape on the bleeders to seal up those threads a bit and keep the air from getting in my bleed tube (using a Mityvac), I use grease. That also help keep the threads lubed so it turns next time I need it to. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
R A Bennell wrote: I understand totally what you are saying, BUT, my point is that people would be more likely to use them if they did not look so bulky and wierd. It is almost like wearing a sign that says Nerd! For decades, the Cinelli leather 'hairnet' was the standard for racing protection. Right about now, I'm wishing I'd bought one when they were only $15. It'd look cool when riding my 1967 Frejus 'Toure De France', IMO. Hey, you can still buy them on eBay. I never saw one in bumblebee colors before, the ones I remember were black or brown: http://search.ebay.com/280574716770 Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
ernest breakfield wrote: that's all subjective; in many circles, riding with a helmet is normal. but either way, that's only a problem for people that are worried about what other people think.;-) Or people who would like to go on organized rides id the organizers didn't actively discriminate against riders without styrofoam. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
I also like the Aviation Sealant as a shellac type sealant. As a stand-alone gasket-maker that is not troubled by hot oil The Right Stuff is the right stuff. It is used in many factory applications, including (I believe) Mercedes. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Permatex Aviation Gasket Maker is what I used to mate the halves of air cooled VW engines; I'm sure that would work fine if used, but the book only says to replace gasket and makes no mention of any sealant. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech On 21/10/2010 7:04 PM, OK Don wrote: Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Tim, I've never done an OM603 oil pan, but I have read the prohibition in the service manual regarding use of RTV. RTV has a habit of shedding particles which can then plug oil passages (specifically the piston cooling jets) which leads to the proverbial melted pistons. Try to find something as similar as possible to the official MB sealer, IF required. -Max Permatex? or something like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Check this puppy out.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2019893837.html If I had more money than brains that would go in my barn. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
That's not a car a lot of people would want. Bet you could get it for half his asking price, assuming that it really is in good shape. On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:30 -0400, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2019893837.html If I had more money than brains that would go in my barn. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
Allan Streib wrote: That's not a car a lot of people would want. Bet you could get it for half his asking price, assuming that it really is in good shape. I take it that's faster than a 190D, but lots slower than a 240D? Can it do 70 up a moderate hill? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
Nice car, but I'd want to look through the records before I'd pay much for it. Chances are high that either the odo has been 'rolled over once or more or it has been neglected for 30 years, meaning lots of rotten rubber parts. Rubber parts will be very expensive unless the part is used on newer cars. But, they are a great car to drive. Very stable with good tires and some weight in the trunk. Great visibility. A real head turner. I'd prefer Mercedes Blue. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2019893837.html If I had more money than brains that would go in my barn. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
If it were better priced and closer, I'd get that to be my back and forth to work car. Bob R On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: That's not a car a lot of people would want. Bet you could get it for half his asking price, assuming that it really is in good shape. On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:30 -0400, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2019893837.html If I had more money than brains that would go in my barn. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
note that my response you replied to was in regard to a comment about looks. that said, i'm also a motorcyclist and a Amateur Radio operator (Ham) andhave worked a lot of rides as a MotoHam Course Marshal; see enough of what happens on those rides and you understand why organizers want helmets on the participants. aside from the obvious legal issues and other things, they want to minimize messy cleanups and don't want other riders to have to deal with it. being a big fan of Darwinism, however, i personally think Society is the bane of Evolution and i totally support the right to choose to bang your head on the ground without protection. cheers! e On 22/Oct/10 10:13, Mitch Haley wrote: Or people who would like to go on organized rides id the organizers didn't actively discriminate against riders without styrofoam. Mitch. ernest breakfield wrote: that's all subjective; in many circles, riding with a helmet is normal. but either way, that's only a problem for people that are worried about what other people think.;-) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
ernest breakfield wrote: being a big fan of Darwinism, however, i personally think Society is the bane of Evolution and i totally support the right to choose to bang your head on the ground without protection. So you support the right to buy and wear silly foam hats? Because there's a lot of data out there, and none of it indicates that foam hats provide meaningful protection from serious injury. Note that I'm not talking about motorcycle helmets. On the liability front, I would assume that if somebody were organizing a casual ride and eat on public roads and in a public park, they'd be far better off stating that the participants' safety was their own concern than mandating ineffective safety equipment and acting as if safety were the organizer's responsibility. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
yep (to Mitch) My son was given green stamp collection for going 82 in his 66 200D on I-80. I got one 25 years ago for supposedly going 70 something in my 66 200D. But 82 is redline unless you change the diff gearing (swap the axle for a 220Sb axle) They are real happy at 55-65 MPH. Great for cruising Rt 66, county roads, blue-line roads, the mormon trail, the Great River road etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D
You are correct on the symptom except its ONLY for reverse. All other gears are fine and reverse would grind when you're moving anyway. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:31:23 -0400 From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D Message-ID: 4cc1841b.2030...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I thought his problem was hard to engage when standing still. Thick oil would only cause grinding while the car is rolling. IT would actually help to slow the gears down and make engagement easier when cold while standing still. My vote goes for dry grease on the pilot bushing, gunk on the shaft and low fluid/air in the hydraulics. In that order. Check the hydraulic situation first cause it's the easiest. Then go for the others cause they need tranny removal. While you have the tranny out you will want to replace at least the disk and throwout bearing. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
I drive backroads to the old nuke plant rarely going over 60mph. It'd be perfect. Bob R On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: yep (to Mitch) My son was given green stamp collection for going 82 in his 66 200D on I-80. I got one 25 years ago for supposedly going 70 something in my 66 200D. But 82 is redline unless you change the diff gearing (swap the axle for a 220Sb axle) They are real happy at 55-65 MPH. Great for cruising Rt 66, county roads, blue-line roads, the mormon trail, the Great River road etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D
Weird, I've always found it to be as Fred described. I used to do a lot of those back in the old VW days. Sometimes 3 or 4 a week, most with the same draggy disengagement problem. Usually found to be gunk on the shaft. That's also why when you replace a clutch disk you will usually find that the disk will be more worn on the flywheel side then on the pressure plate side. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:43:35 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D Message-ID: a06240801c8e663acb...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed I've never seen that. In the gunk situation, with the BMW /5 series, the problem when the shaft got gunked up, manifests itself exactly as Philip described. Fred's situation could happen in theory. But Philip's description would likely happen first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:49:47 -0400 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. Except when you get it in a small tooth paste type tube. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Since it works to hold the oil in when used to put the case of a VW or Porsche together the It should have no problem with an oil pan and gasket unless you have some humongous dents in the seal faces. I've used it for valve covers, transmission pans, and motorcycle cases as well as water pumps and small and large gear cases as well as the VW and Porsche cases. Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:02:00 -0400 From: bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: 4cc19994.0220970a.7007.3...@mx.google.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Well like I said alcohol works great on your hands but if you really need to get it off parts then acetone works real fast. I just tend to give it a couple of swipes and put more on where gaskets are used never had a problem with leaks. Manfred Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:20:02 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: a06240808c8e74ce87...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed I don't like permatex 2 because it is impossible to clean off. (the next time) The rtv stuff is ok if you keep it very minimal. I am not sure about the OM60x engines, but OM 61x and OM621 engines were assembled with no pan gasket and no sealer. I've never had a 60x pan off and have not yet read that section of the cd. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting trends in the IT world
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:22:50 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting IT trends: Indeed, according to a new report from NSS Labs, an independent research lab, cybercriminals have between a 10% to 45% chance of getting past your AV with web malware, with the variation depending on the product a consumer chooses. Also depending on the product, cybercriminals have between 25% to 97% chance of compromising your machine using exploits. Who likes those odds? From: http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/client/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227900443cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-10-22_html Another good resource for security information is http://mocana.com/blog/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
hi Mitch! i support your right to choose to bang your head on the ground with or without whatever you choose to wear on it. there's a lot more data than none out there supporting the position that helmets provide protection, so we might have different definitions of the word meaningful. you're obviously determined to hold your obvious bias, so i don't see any further point in trying to point out the error in that. WRT liability, i wouldn't presume to make any assumptions on that front; what would seem to be common sense to us doesn't seem to play in US courts. go ahead and drop your head on the ground from a height of about 6' without a helmet if you choose. get back to us afterward and let us know how that works for you, if you can. cheers! e On 22/Oct/10 12:05, Mitch Haley wrote: So you support the right to buy and wear silly foam hats? Because there's a lot of data out there, and none of it indicates that foam hats provide meaningful protection from serious injury. Note that I'm not talking about motorcycle helmets. On the liability front, I would assume that if somebody were organizing a casual ride and eat on public roads and in a public park, they'd be far better off stating that the participants' safety was their own concern than mandating ineffective safety equipment and acting as if safety were the organizer's responsibility. Mitch. ernest breakfield wrote: being a big fan of Darwinism, however, i personally think Society is the bane of Evolution and i totally support the right to choose to bang your head on the ground without protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
Worked 12 years on volunteer ambulance, 2 facts that learned. 1) Brave bike riders wear helmets, they get to appreciate the pain. Cowardly bike rides don't wear helmets, for them it's Lights OUT! 2) Folks working in the ER don't own Bikes or chain saws. I almost had a 'T-Bone' at at in intersection with a fellow who was wearing camouflage fatigues on a dark bike in the early hours at sunrise. He gave me the salute as I was in the wrong. Of course, he was almost dead regardless of whose fault it was. On 10/22/2010 3:59 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! i support your right to choose to bang your head on the ground with or without whatever you choose to wear on it. there's a lot more data than none out there supporting the position that helmets provide protection, so we might have different definitions of the word meaningful. you're obviously determined to hold your obvious bias, so i don't see any further point in trying to point out the error in that. WRT liability, i wouldn't presume to make any assumptions on that front; what would seem to be common sense to us doesn't seem to play in US courts. go ahead and drop your head on the ground from a height of about 6' without a helmet if you choose. get back to us afterward and let us know how that works for you, if you can. cheers! e On 22/Oct/10 12:05, Mitch Haley wrote: So you support the right to buy and wear silly foam hats? Because there's a lot of data out there, and none of it indicates that foam hats provide meaningful protection from serious injury. Note that I'm not talking about motorcycle helmets. On the liability front, I would assume that if somebody were organizing a casual ride and eat on public roads and in a public park, they'd be far better off stating that the participants' safety was their own concern than mandating ineffective safety equipment and acting as if safety were the organizer's responsibility. Mitch. ernest breakfield wrote: being a big fan of Darwinism, however, i personally think Society is the bane of Evolution and i totally support the right to choose to bang your head on the ground without protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2019893837.html If I had more money than brains that would go in my barn. So where were you when I was regularly posting the link to the guy on Craigslist Portland who was trying for over a year to sell a baby-blue four-on-the-tree 190D Heckflosse? He was down to $2K when the ad finally disappeared---whether he sold it or just gave up, who knows. Maybe it got cash-for-clunkersed. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! i support your right to choose to bang your head on the ground with or without whatever you choose to wear on it. there's a lot more data than none out there supporting the position that helmets provide protection, so we might have different definitions of the word meaningful. you're obviously determined to hold your obvious bias, so i don't see any further point in trying to point out the error in that. Cite one. Note that I said 'serious injury'. I meant brain injury, not skin injury. And expect to be laughed at if any Seattle swindlers named Thomspon or Rivara or Rivara are involved. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
Peter T. Arnold wrote: 2) Folks working in the ER don't own Bikes or chain saws. ..or cars, if they want to be logically consistent. Car deaths per hour are significantly higher than bicycle deaths per hour. I would guess chain saws beat cars but never saw statistics on it. These aren't considered fashionable anywhere, but I wear them. And they cost almost as much as all my bicycle hats combined. I could have special ordered them in dark green which would have looked less silly, but functionally the safety orange may come in handy some day. http://www.labonville.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=406idcategory=251 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Truck
Glad to hear that you're CUMMING to love your new CUMMINS, and engine with very few shortCUMMINGS. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 QC SWB 6.7L CUMMINS Diesel, 6 speed auto, 18K miles, plenty of power to spare ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Truck
My grandmother was a Cummins but unfortunately the engine folks don't seem to be in my branch of the family. --R On 10/22/2010 4:48 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Glad to hear that you're CUMMING to love your new CUMMINS, and engine with very few shortCUMMINGS. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 QC SWB 6.7L CUMMINS Diesel, 6 speed auto, 18K miles, plenty of power to spare ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Alternator Failure? 84 300D
I ended up replacing the entire alternator. Apparently it has a short or something wrong with it. Thanks, Mike Begin forwarded message: From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com Date: October 21, 2010 10:06:03 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator Failure? 84 300D Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Thanks for the info. I will keep you updated Mike On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Before I pull the alternator is there anything, other than the alternator that could go wrong with the charging system that I can check? Is it plugged in? If the lightbulb in the dash fails, or there's a wiring problem to it, you will get no charging. You must see the light at key-on, or you do have a problem! But alternators also fail, don't be surprised. Not much to 'em, outside of the regulator. Four copper windings, nine diodes. Soldered connections. Iron. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 values
We had an '73 Euro 450SL. Drove/rode like a dream, poured some $$ into it to make it even better. When we had to sell, we lost money. Needed $$ fast, so couldn't wait for the right buyer. But a w123 ANYTHING will NEVER be WORTH more than a w107. There are millions of 123s all over the world, in every combination imaginable to man, and most never seen here in the States. Your local seller is dreaming..or just doesn't want to sell it. You could buy a '90s Rolls sedan for around $10k if you know where to look. Why spend almost 5x that much on something you'd be afraid to drive, due to the cost? Muscle-cars are a whole other ballgame entirely. That type of buyer will always have more $$ than sense. I'd take an 87 560SL for $7800 any day of the week, and just put the top down enjoy it. I'm not one who cares about resale value, on something I own, nor buy a particular vehicle just to be able to sell it later for more than I paid. Not who I am. On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:18 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: I was watching a Mecum Auto Auction (I think it was from 2009) in which a rust-free 1987 560SL went on the block. The mileage wasn't specified, but to all appearances there were no issues either cosmetically or mechanically. It was white with a blue leather interior. The hammer came down at $7800!! In contrast, a variety of US muscle cars from the 80s, including Firebirds and Corvettes, sold for considerably more. This confirms my opinion that the design of the W107 lacks aesthetic appeal. In contrast, a restored white/red W113 280SL is being offered locally at $45K. I have a hard time believing that a pristine late W107 will ever be worth anywhere near this amount. So here is the diesel content: By what year will a W123 300TD be worth MORE than a 1987 or later W107 560SL? Or will this ever happen? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
hi Mitch! did you miss where i said i didn't see any further point in this? seems we've both made our perspectives known, and i can only imagine that most of the rest of the list is as bored with this as i've become,... if you honestly wanted to find data on this, you could. i can certainly find arguments either way and don't necessarily agree with everything in any of them; but there's a lot more than none on both sides. find it, read it, agree with it or not; but don't expect to be taken seriously if you're going to say there's none. i'll note that now you're narrowing down your objection to brain injury, even though that's also my personal primary concern. if that's all you're concerned with that's great, whether we agree on anything else or not... but we have to acknowledge that that's not all everyone is concerned with. if your own personal experience isn't enough to encourage you that your brain might be worth trying to protect and you're not going to learn from the experience of anyone else, and you're not going to even acknowledge any of the studies already out there that you can find with about 0.35 seconds of searching, do your own study. you don't even need to drop your head from 6', just stand next to a brick wall and bang your head on it. as i've said before, i support your right to choose if you'd rather have a helmet on it or not, but if you're going to try to tell me you'd rather not have a helmet on, there's definitely no point in trying to discuss this any further.;-P cheers! e On 22/Oct/10 13:28, Mitch Haley wrote: Cite one. Note that I said 'serious injury'. I meant brain injury, not skin injury. And expect to be laughed at if any Seattle swindlers named Thomspon or Rivara or Rivara are involved. Mitch. ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! i support your right to choose to bang your head on the ground with or without whatever you choose to wear on it. there's a lot more data than none out there supporting the position that helmets provide protection, so we might have different definitions of the word meaningful. you're obviously determined to hold your obvious bias, so i don't see any further point in trying to point out the error in that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
Women think guys are hot in spandex and helmets. I'll be wearing spandex this weekend! --R On 10/22/2010 5:25 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! did you miss where i said i didn't see any further point in this? seems we've both made our perspectives known, and i can only imagine that most of the rest of the list is as bored with this as i've become,... if you honestly wanted to find data on this, you could. i can certainly find arguments either way and don't necessarily agree with everything in any of them; but there's a lot more than none on both sides. find it, read it, agree with it or not; but don't expect to be taken seriously if you're going to say there's none. i'll note that now you're narrowing down your objection to brain injury, even though that's also my personal primary concern. if that's all you're concerned with that's great, whether we agree on anything else or not... but we have to acknowledge that that's not all everyone is concerned with. if your own personal experience isn't enough to encourage you that your brain might be worth trying to protect and you're not going to learn from the experience of anyone else, and you're not going to even acknowledge any of the studies already out there that you can find with about 0.35 seconds of searching, do your own study. you don't even need to drop your head from 6', just stand next to a brick wall and bang your head on it. as i've said before, i support your right to choose if you'd rather have a helmet on it or not, but if you're going to try to tell me you'd rather not have a helmet on, there's definitely no point in trying to discuss this any further.;-P cheers! e On 22/Oct/10 13:28, Mitch Haley wrote: Cite one. Note that I said 'serious injury'. I meant brain injury, not skin injury. And expect to be laughed at if any Seattle swindlers named Thomspon or Rivara or Rivara are involved. Mitch. ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! i support your right to choose to bang your head on the ground with or without whatever you choose to wear on it. there's a lot more data than none out there supporting the position that helmets provide protection, so we might have different definitions of the word meaningful. you're obviously determined to hold your obvious bias, so i don't see any further point in trying to point out the error in that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
I need comet cleaner to clean that mental image from my minds eye. Walt, who's shuddering and trying to keep his apetite now... On Oct 22, 2010 5:45 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Women think guys are hot in spandex and helmets. I'll be wearing spandex this weekend! --R On 10/22/2010 5:25 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! did you miss where i said i d... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
#1. Force quit mail. I forget what the key combination for force quit is, option-command something, I'm sure Google knows. #2. Hold the power button for 30 seconds (feels like forever) which will shut the computer off. Remember this if you're in an unintended acceleration Toyota too, press and HOLD. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:40:50 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MacBook question Message-ID: 004c01cb71f7$1f76c7d0$0202a...@pc466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D
I have SHORT pedal travel though, the clutch engages right quick, is that what you're saying? Dwight reports the MC was replaced not too long ago, is the slave external to the trans? -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:42:47 -0400 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Long pedal travel and grinding for gear engagement are classic symptoms for failing clutch master cylinder or slave cylinder, both are very common and relatively easy to fix, and FAR easier than pulling the transmission to check the disk, clutch pressure plate, and bearing. Check for any evidence of wetness at the clutch MC (located right above/behind the clutch pedal under the dash) and then check at the slave cylinder. I like to touch any sign of wetness with a clean finger and then put that finger on the tip of my tongue; brake fluid is very bitter and easy to identify this way. If you find any evidence, replace the suspect component(s). -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes manuals
Hi, all. Mercedes manuals is having a half off sale on classic vehicles. Seems to be up to 1990 ish, $27 instead of $54. http://www.mercedesmanuals.com/Mercedes_Benz_Manuals_1980_1989_Factory_Official_s/3.htm TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
Thanks, Curt. got it. Gerry --- #1. Force quit mail. I forget what the key combination for force quit is, option-command something, I'm sure Google knows. #2. Hold the power button for 30 seconds (feels like forever) which will shut the computer off. Remember this if you're in an unintended acceleration Toyota too, press and HOLD. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
Nice. How screwed would we be if our cars were powered by Windows? Car crash and Blue screen of death would take on entirely new significance. Lee Gerry Archer wrote: Thanks, Curt. got it. Gerry --- #1. Force quit mail. I forget what the key combination for force quit is, option-command something, I'm sure Google knows. #2. Hold the power button for 30 seconds (feels like forever) which will shut the computer off. Remember this if you're in an unintended acceleration Toyota too, press and HOLD. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Just got off the phone with my buddy the MB Indy. According to him. MB reccomends Permatex Right Stuff on the oil pan. He went through the MB rebuild school for the 350 this spring. Use a thin coating on the pan mating surface. i.e. apply a thin bead then use your finger to spread an even coat. Also can be used to hold the Tranny gasket to the pan. Russ W. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of bb...@crone.us Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Interesting, I went with RTV because of the discussion surrounding OK Don's replacement. :) So the consensus is Permatex, at least with a mostly straight pan (?). Thanks, -Tim -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Subj: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Date: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:49 am Size: 873 bytes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. One will last a good long time. Use rubbing alcohol to get it off your hands. Manfred Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:04:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: aanlktinzhwybyokzpquou-v=s+8x3uahxml=vifbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corredct! I used that black never hardens standard old time gasket sealer. Wish I could remember the name --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- message truncated --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '68 200D
You would think that for someone to ask this kind of money for an old turd like that would at least clean it up a bit. The fact that the wipers are not even parked makes me wonder how accurate the description is. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
Where's that? Maybe, I need to rush down there and join you for the weekend. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and... Women think guys are hot in spandex and helmets. I'll be wearing spandex this weekend! --R On 10/22/2010 5:25 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! did you miss where i said i didn't see any further point in this? seems we've both made our perspectives known, and i can only imagine that most of the rest of the list is as bored with this as i've become,... if you honestly wanted to find data on this, you could. i can certainly find arguments either way and don't necessarily agree with everything in any of them; but there's a lot more than none on both sides. find it, read it, agree with it or not; but don't expect to be taken seriously if you're going to say there's none. i'll note that now you're narrowing down your objection to brain injury, even though that's also my personal primary concern. if that's all you're concerned with that's great, whether we agree on anything else or not... but we have to acknowledge that that's not all everyone is concerned with. if your own personal experience isn't enough to encourage you that your brain might be worth trying to protect and you're not going to learn from the experience of anyone else, and you're not going to even acknowledge any of the studies already out there that you can find with about 0.35 seconds of searching, do your own study. you don't even need to drop your head from 6', just stand next to a brick wall and bang your head on it. as i've said before, i support your right to choose if you'd rather have a helmet on it or not, but if you're going to try to tell me you'd rather not have a helmet on, there's definitely no point in trying to discuss this any further.;-P cheers! e On 22/Oct/10 13:28, Mitch Haley wrote: Cite one. Note that I said 'serious injury'. I meant brain injury, not skin injury. And expect to be laughed at if any Seattle swindlers named Thomspon or Rivara or Rivara are involved. Mitch. ernest breakfield wrote: hi Mitch! i support your right to choose to bang your head on the ground with or without whatever you choose to wear on it. there's a lot more data than none out there supporting the position that helmets provide protection, so we might have different definitions of the word meaningful. you're obviously determined to hold your obvious bias, so i don't see any further point in trying to point out the error in that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
You ready to go 70 miles? http://charlestonrideforhope.com/wp-content/uploads/JZ_100k_route.pdf --R On 10/22/2010 9:29 PM, WILTON wrote: Where's that? Maybe, I need to rush down there and join you for the weekend. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and... Women think guys are hot in spandex and helmets. I'll be wearing spandex this weekend! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
Oh, you mean riding a bike?! No, I just wanted to be admired by the women, but I just realized I probably wouldn't look very good in spandex any more. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and... You ready to go 70 miles? http://charlestonrideforhope.com/wp-content/uploads/JZ_100k_route.pdf --R On 10/22/2010 9:29 PM, WILTON wrote: Where's that? Maybe, I need to rush down there and join you for the weekend. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and... Women think guys are hot in spandex and helmets. I'll be wearing spandex this weekend! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
Why oh why do I even open these emails... Walt, who's scrubbing his minds eye yet again... On Oct 22, 2010 9:50 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Oh, you mean riding a bike?! No, I just wanted to be admired by the women, but I just realized I probably wouldn't look very good in spandex any more. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To... Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and... You ready to go 70 miles? http://charlestonridefor... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107 resale values are in the tank
I agree - it was built from late '72 to '90 (IIRC) - WAY too common. I've been surprised that the prices have stayed as high as they have for so long. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I have a hard time believing that a pristine late W107 will ever be worth anywhere near this amount. [$45k] Probably never, as about 250,000 107's were made. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check this puppy out.
I've always loved the barber pole speedo in those. They drove nicely as well. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2019893837.html If I had more money than brains that would go in my barn. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
If welding was done to the pan, it will no longer be flat -- hence the liberal use of a non- threatening sealant. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Just got off the phone with my buddy the MB Indy. According to him. MB reccomends Permatex Right Stuff on the oil pan. He went through the MB rebuild school for the 350 this spring. Use a thin coating on the pan mating surface. i.e. apply a thin bead then use your finger to spread an even coat. Also can be used to hold the Tranny gasket to the pan. Russ W. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cycling helmets and...
I was fine with that approach until I spent a lot of time photographing in a rehab hospital - the insurance (if they had any) had long ago run out, and we, the tax payers, we fotting the bill to treat those folks whom Darwin didn't quite take out of the pool On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:58 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: being a big fan of Darwinism, however, i personally think Society is the bane of Evolution and i totally support the right to choose to bang your head on the ground without protection. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1958 180D $1500
I didn't know that there were any other Mercedes Diesel coupes besides the 300CD. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2020715257.html Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D
I'm not too familiar with the 240 transmission but given the year and that it's a Mercedes I would be surprised if it didn't have synchros on the first gear. This is what would slow the gears to a stop and make the chance of grinding into first at a stop a more remote possibility. You might however have noticed a slight hesitation or increase of force needed to put the shifter into first. Reverse on the other hand does not have synchros on it to slow and stop the gears so it grinds. If you wait on the repairs you will start to have more problems getting it into first as well as shifting between gears when rolling. Unless the speed at sift point is just right. Manfred Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird trans issue - '78 240D Message-ID: 353478.27942...@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You are correct on the symptom except its ONLY for reverse. All other gears are fine and reverse would grind when you're moving anyway. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
Yeah except I don't like that form as it is too thick and you usually need to put it on with your finger. Which means you have to get it off. With the more liquid form if you are careful you may get away without getting any on you. OK maybe only one time out of ten. What can I say , I'm messy. Manfred Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:38:47 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech Message-ID: 20101022133847.99d1c2da.diese...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:49:47 -0400 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Permatex form-a-gasket #2. Usually in a small can with a brush on the lid. Except when you get it in a small tooth paste type tube. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes manuals
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:20:39 -0400 Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, all. Mercedes manuals is having a half off sale on classic vehicles. Seems to be up to 1990 ish, $27 instead of $54. http://www.mercedesmanuals.com/Mercedes_Benz_Manuals_1980_1989_Factory_Official_s/3.htm So, are these of any value? I'm looking for information on our '94 E420. http://www.mercedesmanuals.com/Mercedes_Benz_W_124_Manual_p/w124.htm This one says it's, Mercedes-Benz 260E, 300E, E320, 300E, 400E, E420, 500E, E500, 300D, E300D, 300CE, 300TE, 300TD 1986-1995 Repair Manual, and contains, This factory official workshop manual contains the Mercedes Chassis, Engine, Electrical Schematics and Wiring Diagrams (ETM's), and Climate Control manuals for each engine and chassis in the W-124 model series from 1986-1995. I looked for an electrical schematic in the 2-CD manual I have (downloaded from John Robbins with Steve Nervig's index) last weekend, but couldn't find one. Now, in just rummaging through the directory for w124CD/Program, I ran across a directory named, ETM. This seems to be what I was seeking. Is Steve Nervig's index incomplete, or did I just not know how to look in the right place? Is the what I already have? http://www.mercedesmanuals.com/Mercedes_Benz_E_Class_W_124_Owners_Bible_p/w124bent.htm This one says, This book is an E-class buyer's guide, maintenance handbook and technical reference source wrapped into one. It is full of tech tips, service hints and system descriptions, plus lots of insightful information about the W124 E-Class chassis. This E-Class Owner's Bible can help steer you through the purchase of your first Mercedes-Benz, provide the information necessary to maintain your E-Class to factory standards, give you the assurance to speak knowledgeably to your service professional and provide you with the hot setup for better road handling. The prospective buyer will also find tips on what to watch out for, why a pre-purchase inspection is important and why one model may be preferred to another. Do-it-yourself owners will discover a huge hands-on maintenance chapter to help keep their E-Class at peak efficiency. Craig -- Present:'94 E420117 kmi '82 240D/3.0263 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '72 220D/8 '64 190Dc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1958 180D $1500
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:22:39 -0700 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: I didn't know that there were any other Mercedes Diesel coupes besides the 300CD. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2020715257.html Well, it has two doors on the driver's side. The only way it could be a coupe would be to have no doors on the other side, which I think is highly unlikely. :-) In fact, the bottom picture shows looking through an opening on the passenger's side that looks like it's a door opening, so the car has at least three doors. I'll bet it actually has four doors and is really a sedan. And what is that stuff on the front passenger's seat? It's tempting, though. Now if it were just closer. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 oil pan breech
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:26:18 -0400 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah except I don't like that form as it is too thick and you usually need to put it on with your finger. Which means you have to get it off. With the more liquid form if you are careful you may get away without getting any on you. Yes, that's an advantage. I just got used to getting it off my finger/fingers/rags/shirt/pants/... OK maybe only one time out of ten. What can I say, I'm messy. Aha! Someone who is honest! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1958 180D $1500
looks like half the dash is missingand the headliner is all sagtastic. Butstill sweet. Bob R On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:22:39 -0700 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: I didn't know that there were any other Mercedes Diesel coupes besides the 300CD. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2020715257.html Well, it has two doors on the driver's side. The only way it could be a coupe would be to have no doors on the other side, which I think is highly unlikely. :-) In fact, the bottom picture shows looking through an opening on the passenger's side that looks like it's a door opening, so the car has at least three doors. I'll bet it actually has four doors and is really a sedan. And what is that stuff on the front passenger's seat? It's tempting, though. Now if it were just closer. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MacBook question
Thanks to Peter, DH, David, and Fred. Got it turned off. Now to try and get mail connected to the ISP again. Gerry - On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1958 180D $1500
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:48:16 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: looks like half the dash is missingand the headliner is all sagtastic. I thought the area where the factory put the speedometer looked a little odd. Butstill sweet. You've got the bug, don't you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1958 180D $1500
I thought it was just another sedan trying to pose as a coupe! I don't like those 300TD sedans either. They should say 300D Turbo Diesel in the ad rather than tD. I guess I'm a Mercedes snob now -:). Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
