Re: [MBZ] diesel-benz-mazda truck
That's a cool B2500D! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals
There are a variety of opinions on the subject, but this is definitely a conversation for banned, IMO. (I am firmly in the discussion-okay camp, but I think politics and/or inflammatory rhetoric crosses the line set by our moderator, no?) So while I would be inclined to support any human beings who take courageous action to bring themselves up out of an oppressive situation... You'll have to engage me in banned. :) Thanks, Tim Banned: not as distasteful as it used to be On Mar 23, 2011 8:16 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Too bad as they were both a few months away from applying for citizenship, and since they were here legally could have gotten all their stuff no problemo, but just chose not too. For the other guy Ronnie it might have been luck as he had just found out his girlfriend was in a family way and he was not happy about that... California and Arizone are overrun with people like this and as far as I'm concerned they can get the hell out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals
Tim, I would agree with your statement below, except that they are only improving their situation by making our situation worse in the USA. Why can't they take courageous action in Mexico or any of the other OTM countries? I'm not a banned member, nor want to be. I was stating facts about Georgia's illegal problems. My comments weren't to inflame. But while on the topic, how do you feel about people who break the law? Should they get off with no punishment? Should we all start deciding which laws we want to obey and which we don't? The USA would really go to hell in a hand basket real quick if we all decided that our law breaking actions were courageous and should be ok. So while I would be inclined to support any human beings who take courageous action to bring themselves up out of an oppressive situation... You'll have to engage me in banned. :) Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 300D Feeling Slugish
Take loose the line from the intake manifold to the left inner fender. Blow out the line and the nipple on the manifold with ~100psi air. Reassemble and test drive. In most cases that takes care of the sluggish problem. Howdy Gang - I picked up my '91 300D today following installation of a rebuilt AT I bought from Rusty. So far it is a huge improvement - of course, going from not havong reverse and some forward gears will do that ;-^ Rusty says he has sold thousands of these ATs with only 3 problems - 2 were installer problems and one was fixed easily. Which gives me confidence in the AT. It shifts a little on the firm side but I suspect that's to be expected since it's new and will become more fluid as it is broken in ((fingers crossed). This is one area I have little to no experience in - breaking in a new AT. Suggestions ? Also, the engine doesn't seem as peppy as it was - like maybe the Turbo isn't spooling up properly . Are there any specific problems that might cause this? It started doing this before the AT died all the way - Tomorrow I'll check filters and vacuum hoses ... initially I thought because the tranny was slipping that that caused the slow feeling but that's no longer the case. And I'm not sure if it's me or the control logic - but it seems to want to shift too quickly - but not all of the time .. Is this because the AT is new? Or does something need adjusting? Also, Is the vaccuum modulator adjustable? One more thing - the switch that telecopes the steering column only clicks in the rearward direction - it will not move the column at all forward. Does that sound like the switch? Wiring? Motor? Thanks to all - Larry p Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals
sarcasm And of course la raza could never be considered a racist organization and the fact that their gummit sends them here to take back their territory could have nothing to do with the problem nobody ever has their head stuffed in a dark place. /sarcasm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
Anyone ever used a steam cleaner on their carpet/interior? I'm thinking of renting one to clean up the interior of the W116 300SD I recently bought. The carpeting is not worn out but it is really dirty. Or is it better to just take it to a real detail shop and let them do it? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] things looking up for us and 240D
I think that a good sign that the MC is the culprit is that when you pump and pump, you can get clutch action, but if you don't get any clutch action by pumping then the slave is bad. I've only had four hydraulic clutch problems in my short driving life, and they have followed that pattern. Two were MB, one BMW, one Infiniti. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:08 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] things looking up for us and 240D Mine would act like Brian's, if I left it for 8 hours I didn't have much clutch action. On mine the master was leaking ever so slightly. I wrapped the whole master in paper towels to find the leak. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:54:03 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] things looking up for us and 240D Message-ID: AANLkTi=wjo=Q_Lg829jg8tDZJTd=adnrngk-w1kgs...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Max wrote: If there is no sign of fluid on/around the MC, which is above the clutch pedal under the dash, then you can probably assume that the slave is the culprit and replace it. I forget how we determined the master was the problem 3 years ago. But, the symptom was that when pedal down, clutch would engage after 10 seconds, so I had to plan ahead. That was the master. I think the master can lead past the seals internally, back up to the brake reservoir, no? Then a year ago we replaced the slave cylinder - one night drove in the driveway fine, next morning - zero clutch - leakage at slave. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
I own a steam cleaner (really a hot-water wet-vac, to be technically correct) and in my experience I can do a far better job than any detail shop, but it takes time. Check to make sure the rental has lots of hand tool attachments which are small and suitable for getting under seats and such. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners? Anyone ever used a steam cleaner on their carpet/interior? I'm thinking of renting one to clean up the interior of the W116 300SD I recently bought. The carpeting is not worn out but it is really dirty. Or is it better to just take it to a real detail shop and let them do it? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
Check to make sure the rental has lots of hand tool attachments which are small and suitable for getting under seats and such. A 10mm wrench and a 19mm wrench are _excellent_ tools for getting under the seats! (Take the buggers out, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How do you tell if an SLC is a 5.0?
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I just remembered a simpler, if less precise way of telling the difference. A 5.0 should have a urethane lip on the trunk lid like a 1970's Saab turbo, shouldn't it? This one doesn't. Every 450SLC 5.0 I've ever seen in real life (two) or in pictures (dozens) has had the little trunk spoiler, even the factory rally cars. OTOH, Jamie's the expert here. Find a 380SL that broke the timing chain and blew up, and transplant the hi-po Euro 4.5 and small bumpers? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
I will definitely be removing the seats for the cleaning project. Would a W116 300SD possibly have had MB-Tex seat covers? Or would an S class have had leather? Allan On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:01 -0800, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Check to make sure the rental has lots of hand tool attachments which are small and suitable for getting under seats and such. A 10mm wrench and a 19mm wrench are _excellent_ tools for getting under the seats! (Take the buggers out, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W210 V-8 pumpkin
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/2280716731.html Would this fit other cars, say a 124? Would my existing half-shafts bolt up to it? How would I know if it's limited-slip? I'm thinking it might be a nice upgrade for my '87 300D---the ratio change would slow the car down some (not a big deal to me) but I would guesstimate it would improve highway MPG well into the consistent mid-30s. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 V-8 pumpkin
Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/2280716731.html Would this fit other cars, say a 124? Would my existing half-shafts bolt up to it? That's a question that I'm sure Dave M. has answered. Maybe you can find it on his web page, or you can email him. http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_diffs/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] less ot, laws was Way ot Re: illegals
Roger, I won't discuss aliens on this list, I don't think that helps Benz camaraderie anyway. However, I do think the other part of your question On Mar 24, 2011 8:26 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Tim, I would agree with your statement below, except that they are only improving their situation by making our situation worse in the USA. Why can't they take courageous action in Mexico or any of the other OTM countries? I'm not a banned member, nor want to be. I was stating facts about Georgia's illegal problems. My comments weren't to inflame. Fair enough, I just suggest that the discussion as presented by the other Roger didn't have much if any upside to MBZ, and political discussion that does not affect cars is relegated to banned (though if Kaleb says I'm wrong then maybe I will reply to Loren's trolling :). However, I think your next question is marginally car-related: But while on the topic, how do you feel about people who break the law? Should they get off with no punishment? Should we all start deciding which laws we want to obey and which we don't? I told not long ago about how I went 75 or 80 mph in my 240. I live in the city limits, and it is illegal to have a car that is unregistered, yet both Volvos and the 240 expired before the junk man came. It is illegal in my county to put the dog out on a leash, but I do it anyway. Last week I put corrugated cardboard in the trash (it was oil-infused but that is still against the law here). If I get 'caught' doing one of these things I am prepared to take my punishment, but that does not keep me from doing them. Should you, whose job is not enforcing the division of recyclables in the City of Durham, hold it against me evermore that my oil-soaked box got pitched? Do you feel okay letting me get off without punishment for my many crimes? This does not even get into the laws that are explicitly designed subject to the interpretation of the courts, nor laws that are still on the books but have been overturned. Away from home, it is illegal for Chinese people to complain about the government, and in many countries being a Christian or... is illegal; street demonstrations are outlawed almost everywhere. In history, you have American revolutionaries, Jews in ghettos, the Underground Railroad, a long tradition of assassins... That's why the old philosophers discussed natural law and why the revolutionaries were so enamored with the concept. I would say that merely breaking a law does not make the person less human, nor even necessarily less right, though it might be worthy of some personal reflection. The USA would really go to hell in a hand basket real quick if we all decided that our law breaking actions were courageous and should be ok. That is to say, the USA would never have been, and we would still be subjects of the crown. I remember a discussion with a German friend of ours about home schooling, which at the time was (maybe still is?) illegal in Germany. His feeling was that, until someone was willing to go to jail for the right to home school, the law would not be changed; but once someone -was- put in jail, the law would be debated fairly. Even at that he wasn't sure his opinion would win out, but at least the conversation could happen. -Tim probably done So while I would be inclined to support any human beings who take courageous action to bring themselves up out of an oppressive situation... You'll have to engage me in banned. :) Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 V-8 pumpkin
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/2280716731.html Would this fit other cars, say a 124? Would my existing half-shafts bolt up to it? That's a question that I'm sure Dave M. has answered. Maybe you can find it on his web page, or you can email him. http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_diffs/ I bet you're right. Unfortunately I should have Googled before I posted. Seems the stock '87 300D diff is a 2.79. Not worth changing---I thought it was over 3 like a 300E. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A Father's Letter
A tragedy occurred locally recently... I may have posted it here... in which a young man was crushed by his car while changing his oil. I posted it as a cautionary safety public service message in several BMW and Mercedes forums. Unbeknownst to me, word of my post apparently reached the family of the young man, and last night his father responded to my post. it is a heart-breaking story, but worth reading, and I offer it in its entirety, including my response to him. Stay safe out there, fellas. I am Christian Klorczyk's father Good Day, I feel that I must respond to this post for the sake of accuracy, the honor of my son and family name and also to attempt to save other lives. Lynne and I are the parents of three sons, Frederick III, Christian, Parker and our adopted sons, his twin brother Jordan, Dimitri and Dan - all carguys. As stated in the article The 21-year-old died Friday after a BMW he was working on collapsed on him in the family garage. Fred Klorczyk said that a floor jack likely failed while his son (Christian) was under the car changing the oil. Jeff Johnson did a great job on the article on our son, brother and friend and I thank him for that. Jeff was a true gentleman who talked to us for hours in our darkest times to get an accurate depiction of our son and family. However, and unfortunately we do not have it on tape, nor is Jeff a gearhead and doesn't really understand jacks, jackstands and multiple layers of safety. I never said, nor is it accurate to say that a floor jack likely failed... Christian is an experienced mechanic who started working on cars and following Formula 1 when he was a small child. He and our whole family witnessed Ayrton Magic Senna die at Tamburello 15 years ago. Yes, Christian was only six at the time and he would wake all of us up at 6:30AM to watch the pre-race show in Italy on satellite. Christian is a true car guy as are his brothers and friends. My business is in the most safety conscious market in the world - nuclear boats, nuclear ships and nuclear power plants. That mentality is my life - has been since I was a kid engineer out of school. Ask any of my employees how I feel about safety. They have the right to stop any job and call me at anytime as no one is to ever get injured on our jobsites. This naturally carried over to my homelife. By the way, my father was a large machine mechanic by trade and a gearhead by avocation. No one would use the wrong tools - we have them all and all are of quality. No one in my garage or driveway would ever go under a car with only a jack of any kind holding it up. The jack elevates the car, jackstands support at proper points while working underneath and the jack is removed to improve accessibility. Period. Block the wheels if necessary. Emergency brake on. Car in gear. A lift would be better but we just were not at that point in our lives yet. Christian had the right front tire off so that he could shine his double halogen lights on the work area and see clearly. He also had that tire/wheel under the right front rotor as an extra measure of safety as is a habit of ours when possible. He had four ton Craftsman jackstands in use. Two were just bought at Christmas when I sent him to buy a new jack since ours is getting to be five years old. Hydraulic cylinders and seals degrade over time. He didn't buy the jack since he felt what Sears, etc., had were junk so he bought more four ton stands but without safety pins. I did not realize there were redundant safety stands until... it was too late. Christian was using my father's creeper for the first time. He found the creeper when cleaning the garage over Christmas. When he applied torque to the ratchet handle to break the plug loose, he experienced the law of physics of equal and opposite reaction. As the plug broke loose, the creeper did also in a direction opposite to the torque vector Christian applied. Some part of Christian's body, some part of the creeper, the mallet beside him, something - we have no video, just supposition and theory... tripped the right front jackstand lever inadvertantly from the underside and a ton of the BMW E46 3 series xi crushed his chest and his right cheekbone. He never took, or could even attempt to take a second breath. Death was immediate and painless. If I were beside him at the time this occurred I could have done nothing to save him. This has been verified by five friends of mine who are doctors. I used the floorjack Christian used to elevate the car to get the car off of him. It was parallel to the car just as he would place it when he removed it from the jackpoint. I had to engage the cylinder with clockwise rotation which tells me Christian removed it per proper procedure. I had the jack underneath and car off him in seconds. Jackstands were under before I crawled from under the valance while Lynne called 911. Lynne came under with me from
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
A sad story indeed. My jack stands are the same low-cost, made-in-China ratchet type... it's very hard for me to imagine that bumping the handle with the ratchet engaged and under load could dislodge it. I wonder if maybe the whole stand was cocked a bit and bumping it knocked it over. However all things are possible I guess... certainly has me considering buying some better jackstands. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals
What he said, only add Florida to the list as well. Sadly, many of the illegals are here in Florida working because there are no US citizens willing to do the work. When I drive to the office in the morning this time of year, I see several hundred illegals (I am betting) going to work picking strawberries. Once the crop is in they will move north as other crops mature... Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:16 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Too bad as they were both a few months away from applying for citizenship, and since they were here legally could have gotten all their stuff no problemo, but just chose not too. For the other guy Ronnie it might have been luck as he had just found out his girlfriend was in a family way and he was not happy about that... California and Arizone are overrun with people like this and as far as I'm concerned they can get the hell out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
Made me smile when I read that. I knew a guy, who years ago, collected old Corvettes. We were talking cars once, and he said he was going to wash two of his the following day, which would take all day. Hmm, why all day to wash two cars I asked?? Well, by the time you put it up on axle stands, take all the wheels off, removes the seats to properly vacuum it, it takes the best part of all day to do two of them. I asked if he always takes the seats out and wheels off when washing his cars? Doesn't everyone was the reply. hee hee Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 11:01, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Check to make sure the rental has lots of hand tool attachments which are small and suitable for getting under seats and such. A 10mm wrench and a 19mm wrench are _excellent_ tools for getting under the seats! (Take the buggers out, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals
The difference is, most of the illegals in Florida are probably Canadians. hee hee. We tend to head north once strawberry picking season is over, and the snow starts to melt here. ;-) Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 10:57, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: What he said, only add Florida to the list as well. Sadly, many of the illegals are here in Florida working because there are no US citizens willing to do the work. When I drive to the office in the morning this time of year, I see several hundred illegals (I am betting) going to work picking strawberries. Once the crop is in they will move north as other crops mature... Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:16 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Too bad as they were both a few months away from applying for citizenship, and since they were here legally could have gotten all their stuff no problemo, but just chose not too. For the other guy Ronnie it might have been luck as he had just found out his girlfriend was in a family way and he was not happy about that... California and Arizone are overrun with people like this and as far as I'm concerned they can get the hell out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
I bought the same stands, either from Sears or Walmarts last year. After using them a couple of times and an incident of one slipping, I decided that the stands were not safe. I then bought four pin type stands from Autozone which are safe unless a metal part of the stand breaks since there is no way the stand can slip with the pin through holes in the sliding car support and the base. Christians father assumes he hit the jack lever accidentally. After my experience with the same or same type jack, I think the jackstand could have simply slipped spontaneously. IMO he should file suit against the retailer and the manufacturer if for no other reason than to get these possibly dangerous jackstands off the market. Gerry --- From: toms cat1 tomsc...@hotmail.com A tragedy occurred locally recently... I may have posted it here... in which a young man was crushed by his car while changing his oil. I posted it as a cautionary safety public service message in several BMW and Mercedes forums. Unbeknownst to me, word of my post apparently reached the family of the young man, and last night his father responded to my post. it is a heart-breaking story, but worth reading, and I offer it in its entirety, including my response to him. Stay safe out there, fellas. I am Christian Klorczyk's father Good Day, I feel that I must respond to this post for the sake of accuracy, the honor of my son and family name and also to attempt to save other lives.snip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
I have been looking on-line for pin-type stands, and finding very few in the 3 - 6 ton range, and the heavier duty ones are $300 each and up. I did find these, http://www.mile-x.com/esco-10497-3-ton-jack-stand.aspx ESCO seems to be an Ohio based company, anyone familiar with them or these stands? The tripod design would seem to be very stable. Allan On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59 -0400, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I bought the same stands, either from Sears or Walmarts last year. After using them a couple of times and an incident of one slipping, I decided that the stands were not safe. I then bought four pin type stands from Autozone which are safe unless a metal part of the stand breaks since there is no way the stand can slip with the pin through holes in the sliding car support and the base. Christians father assumes he hit the jack lever accidentally. After my experience with the same or same type jack, I think the jackstand could have simply slipped spontaneously. IMO he should file suit against the retailer and the manufacturer if for no other reason than to get these possibly dangerous jackstands off the market. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
You wouldn't vacuum the living room without moving the sofa, would you? MLH. E M wrote: Made me smile when I read that. I knew a guy, who years ago, collected old Corvettes. We were talking cars once, and he said he was going to wash two of his the following day, which would take all day. Hmm, why all day to wash two cars I asked?? Well, by the time you put it up on axle stands, take all the wheels off, removes the seats to properly vacuum it, it takes the best part of all day to do two of them. I asked if he always takes the seats out and wheels off when washing his cars? Doesn't everyone was the reply. hee hee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I did find these, http://www.mile-x.com/esco-10497-3-ton-jack-stand.aspx ESCO seems to be an Ohio based company, anyone familiar with them or these stands? The tripod design would seem to be very stable. I did a lot of searching for good jackstands about ten years ago, and those Escos seemed to be about the best you could get. At the time they were made in the US. I have four of them and two that I bought more recently, which are made in China, supposedly to the same quality standards. (They look exactly like the domestic ones, for what that's worth.) Previously I had a set of Craftsman stands, the ratcheting kind where all the weight in use rests on the tooth or pawl. I started looking for new ones when the pawl on one of the Craftsmans one day sheared right off , instantly collapsing the stand to its lowest position. Fortunately nobody was under the car and I hadn't yet taken the wheels off. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Two Dogs Dining in a Busy Restaurant
Now for something completely different. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVwlMVYqMu4 Mercedes content: they arrived in a W123 Coupe, but I didn't get to load that video. I will send it Manana. ;) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Having used tripod type stands for years before cheaper square stands became available, I found that is was safer when the stands were not oriented in the same direction and that no more than two tripod stands be used at a time. The problems I had were situations that occurred when I was pulling a breakover handle and the stands would tend to tip up. I had to watch them closely while putting any kind of lateral force on the car. I ultimately cut 2x 4x 12 pieces of treated wood and drove in dowel pins so the 12x 12 pieces could be nested together for 2 (actuallly 1 1/2) increments of height. Using two wood block assemblies and two tripod jack stands seemed to be fairly safe. I haven't had any tipping problems with the square base pin type stands from Autozone. Gerry From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu I have been looking on-line for pin-type stands, and finding very few in the 3 - 6 ton range, and the heavier duty ones are $300 each and up. I did find these, http://www.mile-x.com/esco-10497-3-ton-jack-stand.aspx ESCO seems to be an Ohio based company, anyone familiar with them or these stands? The tripod design would seem to be very stable. Allan On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59 -0400, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I bought the same stands, either from Sears or Walmarts last year. After using them a couple of times and an incident of one slipping, I decided that the stands were not safe. I then bought four pin type stands from Autozone which are safe unless a metal part of the stand breaks since there is no way the stand can slip with the pin through holes in the sliding car support and the base. Christians father assumes he hit the jack lever accidentally. After my experience with the same or same type jack, I think the jackstand could have simply slipped spontaneously. IMO he should file suit against the retailer and the manufacturer if for no other reason than to get these possibly dangerous jackstands off the market. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spare Tire
i'm a fan of having a matching spare, so i've done 5-wheel rotation routinely for years. many people do this on off-road rigs in order to make sure they have tires that will get them out that are as good as what got them in to where they got their flat, and also because it's not a Good Thing to have one tire that's got a different roll-out than the others when you're locked up in 4WD. i typically get over 60K miles out of a set of 5 mud tires on our rig using the modified cross pattern* that was recommended by Michelin (makers of BFG) and Goodyear when i called themand swap them out while they still have plenty of tread on them for street use. even divided out, that's comparable to over 48K for a set of 4; which i consider pretty good for Muds that see the kind of use ours do and don't get run all the way to the tread bars. we've never had any issue with any of them being run in a reversed direction, but i don't use any directional tires. the closest thing to an issue i've noticed is that sometimes some of them will wear to where they have a slightly different pull after a complete rotation, but it's never been more than barely noticeable and sometimes evens out after some use. cheers! e * modified cross pattern; rears to the front on the same side, fronts cross to the opposite side as they come to the rear. FL tire that would have become the RR goes to the spare, and the spare goes down on the RR. when i do the rotation myself, it usually goes like this: SRRFRRLFLS On 23/Mar/11 17:35, Tim C wrote: I have a friend who, as a standard practice, buys 5 full-sized tires and just rotates them through. He claims to get proportional extra life for the incremental cost. I just did the same on the SDL so we will see. -Tim On Mar 22, 2011 7:37 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
Yes Well, they could be tex or they could be leather. If they have cracks or wear patterns like leather, they are probably are leather. If there are no characteristics of leather, it is tex. I will definitely be removing the seats for the cleaning project. Would a W116 300SD possibly have had MB-Tex seat covers? Or would an S class have had leather? Allan On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:01 -0800, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Check to make sure the rental has lots of hand tool attachments which are small and suitable for getting under seats and such. A 10mm wrench and a 19mm wrench are _excellent_ tools for getting under the seats! (Take the buggers out, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: they could be tex or they could be leather. If they have cracks or wear patterns like leather, they are probably are leather. If there are no characteristics of leather, it is tex. Careful research on Craigslist proves conclusively that all Mercedes have leather seats! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals
I think the Canucks in FL cross at border crossings legally, and (as you said) migrate home when the snow melts. That is a totally different case than people sneaking in to drain money out of the country until they can take over. The difference is, most of the illegals in Florida are probably Canadians. hee hee. We tend to head north once strawberry picking season is over, and the snow starts to melt here. ;-) Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 10:57, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: What he said, only add Florida to the list as well. Sadly, many of the illegals are here in Florida working because there are no US citizens willing to do the work. When I drive to the office in the morning this time of year, I see several hundred illegals (I am betting) going to work picking strawberries. Once the crop is in they will move north as other crops mature... Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:16 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Too bad as they were both a few months away from applying for citizenship, and since they were here legally could have gotten all their stuff no problemo, but just chose not too. For the other guy Ronnie it might have been luck as he had just found out his girlfriend was in a family way and he was not happy about that... California and Arizone are overrun with people like this and as far as I'm concerned they can get the hell out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals
They are easy to pick out anyway because they are from Quebec and have a heavy French accent. They might claim to be from Louisiana but don't believe them. Randy On 24/03/2011 1:52 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I think the Canucks in FL cross at border crossings legally, and (as you said) migrate home when the snow melts. That is a totally different case than people sneaking in to drain money out of the country until they can take over. The difference is, most of the illegals in Florida are probably Canadians. hee hee. We tend to head north once strawberry picking season is over, and the snow starts to melt here. ;-) Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 10:57, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: What he said, only add Florida to the list as well. Sadly, many of the illegals are here in Florida working because there are no US citizens willing to do the work. When I drive to the office in the morning this time of year, I see several hundred illegals (I am betting) going to work picking strawberries. Once the crop is in they will move north as other crops mature... Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:16 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Too bad as they were both a few months away from applying for citizenship, and since they were here legally could have gotten all their stuff no problemo, but just chose not too. For the other guy Ronnie it might have been luck as he had just found out his girlfriend was in a family way and he was not happy about that... California and Arizone are overrun with people like this and as far as I'm concerned they can get the hell out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
Also have all records and get 40mpg. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners? On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: they could be tex or they could be leather. If they have cracks or wear patterns like leather, they are probably are leather. If there are no characteristics of leather, it is tex. Careful research on Craigslist proves conclusively that all Mercedes have leather seats! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals
lol. And some of us from Ontario just put on a French accent while we're in Florida, to mess with everyone. hee hee I got off the plane once in Florida, with a few French speaking passengers. One of the locals asked why they were speaking German. I wasn't quite sure how to answer. Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 15:03, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: They are easy to pick out anyway because they are from Quebec and have a heavy French accent. They might claim to be from Louisiana but don't believe them. Randy On 24/03/2011 1:52 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I think the Canucks in FL cross at border crossings legally, and (as you said) migrate home when the snow melts. That is a totally different case than people sneaking in to drain money out of the country until they can take over. The difference is, most of the illegals in Florida are probably Canadians. hee hee. We tend to head north once strawberry picking season is over, and the snow starts to melt here. ;-) Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 10:57, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: What he said, only add Florida to the list as well. Sadly, many of the illegals are here in Florida working because there are no US citizens willing to do the work. When I drive to the office in the morning this time of year, I see several hundred illegals (I am betting) going to work picking strawberries. Once the crop is in they will move north as other crops mature... Dan Sent from my iPod On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:16 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Too bad as they were both a few months away from applying for citizenship, and since they were here legally could have gotten all their stuff no problemo, but just chose not too. For the other guy Ronnie it might have been luck as he had just found out his girlfriend was in a family way and he was not happy about that... California and Arizone are overrun with people like this and as far as I'm concerned they can get the hell out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
I don't think the older MB perforated any of the leather, but some of the new AMG models do have perforated leather. I'm kind of curious now, I'll have to have a peek at closer look at some of the pics in my large folder of older Mercedes. Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 16:37, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I am thinking mine are Tex because the seat covers are pleated and perforated... leather would not be perforated would it? Allan WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Also have all records and get 40mpg. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners? On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: they could be tex or they could be leather. If they have cracks or wear patterns like leather, they are probably are leather. If there are no characteristics of leather, it is tex. Careful research on Craigslist proves conclusively that all Mercedes have leather seats! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
I've got a set of the ratchet type but I only ever use them on the lowest setting which is about as high as my floor jack will lift... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59:54 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter Message-ID: 1334709B885F4D59A4259115C26E71DF@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I bought the same stands, either from Sears or Walmarts last year. After using them a couple of times and an incident of one slipping, I decided that the stands were not safe. I then bought four pin type stands from Autozone which are safe unless a metal part of the stand breaks since there is no way the stand can slip with the pin through holes in the sliding car support and the base. Christians father assumes he hit the jack lever accidentally. After my experience with the same or same type jack, I think the jackstand could have simply slipped spontaneously. IMO he should file suit against the retailer and the manufacturer if for no other reason than to get these possibly dangerous jackstands off the market. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Several possible causes but the final answer is that who ever is going to crawl under needs to be satisfied that they are locked and steady. I can't say that I think the folks that sold them should be sued. There are so many variables with things like this. If the ratchet type scares you, then don't use them. I have had no issue but I am very careful that they are locked and there is enough weight on them to ensure they stay put. They could break but I have not experienced that issue as yet. I am often holding up significant weight too - Suburban in the past and a Supercrew now. My biggest issue is that often the jack stand is too big to fit where I want it. I have some smaller ones too but feel more comfortable with the heavy duty ones in place. I have some with pins but cannot say they make me feel any safer than the ratchet models. I suggest that it would be relatively easy to make your own or modify some to set a fixed height. Then you would not have to worry about ratchets or pins. Most of the time I think I have them at about the same height when in use so I doubt that would cause me any real issues if I fixed them so they could not move. The other interesting thing from the father's letter relates to the amount of space left. I have said previously that I will normally put something else under the car to ensure it stays up if there is a problem, like blocks of square timber and maybe leave the jack in place too. This fellow apparently left the tire in place under the one front spindle but it did not provide enough extra space to save him. That is a lesson to remember. Randy who plans to live to a ripe old age and continue working on cars On 24/03/2011 11:08 AM, Allan Streib wrote: A sad story indeed. My jack stands are the same low-cost, made-in-China ratchet type... it's very hard for me to imagine that bumping the handle with the ratchet engaged and under load could dislodge it. I wonder if maybe the whole stand was cocked a bit and bumping it knocked it over. However all things are possible I guess... certainly has me considering buying some better jackstands. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Sort of a continuation of my earlier post, but it should not be too difficult to rig something to hold the ratchet part down so it would not readily change no matter how hard it got bumped or banged. Randy On 24/03/2011 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I've got a set of the ratchet type but I only ever use them on the lowest setting which is about as high as my floor jack will lift... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59:54 -0400 From: Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter Message-ID:1334709B885F4D59A4259115C26E71DF@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I bought the same stands, either from Sears or Walmarts last year. After using them a couple of times and an incident of one slipping, I decided that the stands were not safe. I then bought four pin type stands from Autozone which are safe unless a metal part of the stand breaks since there is no way the stand can slip with the pin through holes in the sliding car support and the base. Christians father assumes he hit the jack lever accidentally. After my experience with the same or same type jack, I think the jackstand could have simply slipped spontaneously. IMO he should file suit against the retailer and the manufacturer if for no other reason than to get these possibly dangerous jackstands off the market. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tahrs
Years ago I was told to not rotate radial tires to the opposite side of the vehicle, as reversing the rotation did something bad. More recently I've heard that this is no longer a big deal, unless the tires are directional (usually only extreme performance tires) My cars previously had directional tires but the last ones are just marked outside so I swap them left to right about every 5K miles. Looks like I'll be getting about 40K miles out of them which is pretty good considered the tread wear rating of 140. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Putting the tire under the spindle requires the suspension to load-up again, and an unloaded suspension will hang down ~ 6-12 inches more than when loaded, and it will by design overshoot further than that before settling out. My 2 cents. Walt On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Sort of a continuation of my earlier post, but it should not be too difficult to rig something to hold the ratchet part down so it would not readily change no matter how hard it got bumped or banged. Randy On 24/03/2011 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I've got a set of the ratchet type but I only ever use them on the lowest setting which is about as high as my floor jack will lift... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:59:54 -0400 From: Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter Message-ID:1334709B885F4D59A4259115C26E71DF@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I bought the same stands, either from Sears or Walmarts last year. After using them a couple of times and an incident of one slipping, I decided that the stands were not safe. I then bought four pin type stands from Autozone which are safe unless a metal part of the stand breaks since there is no way the stand can slip with the pin through holes in the sliding car support and the base. Christians father assumes he hit the jack lever accidentally. After my experience with the same or same type jack, I think the jackstand could have simply slipped spontaneously. IMO he should file suit against the retailer and the manufacturer if for no other reason than to get these possibly dangerous jackstands off the market. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Randy Bennell wrote: This fellow apparently left the tire in place under the one front spindle but it did not provide enough extra space to save him. That is a lesson to remember. Which is under the suspension - not the frame. So the spring compresses before it carries weight. And a sudden drop will have inertia over compress the spring and squash something (someone) that has room when it is static. -- Philip, fond of breathing ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes: Sort of a continuation of my earlier post, but it should not be too difficult to rig something to hold the ratchet part down so it would not readily change no matter how hard it got bumped or banged. The problem I have with the notion of the ratchet style stand disengaging is that it is in fact a ratchet mechanism: the pawl locks into the notch on the stand and the more weight is bearing down the tighter it locks. The only way one could collapse is if the pawl or the tooth on the stand itself sheared off (which I suppose is possible; so it is also possible for a pin to shear in a pin-style stand). Also under load I don't think you could disengage the ratchet with a bump. You'd need to apply enough force to lift the load by about one tooth before the pawl would disengage, which would be a lot on a lever that short. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: classy wood i[Pad|Pod|Phone] covers
Just the thing for those who have carefully restored their wood interior trim... https://www.miniot.com/webshop Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Allan Streib wrote: The only way one could collapse is if the pawl or the tooth on the stand itself sheared off If you slide the stand under the car and raise it to meet the frame, it's possible to partially engage the ratchet. When that happens I either drop the ratchet one notch or raise the car 1/2 inch. The handle must drop all the way down, it sits high when the ratchet is hanging on the edge. I believe my USA made Blackhawks can do this too, but not as often as the Kmart stands. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
I'm throwing out my Dad's junk stands. Ironically, he gave me his good old Craftsman pedistal stands with the pin that fits into the holes for proper height adjustment. We've used these ratcheting stands for years, but they won't be used anymore. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals
I love the way law and order citizens holler about the illegal immigrants, then break the speed limit every time they drive. We already decide which laws to obey and Mao already tells us that our country is go to hell in a hand basket. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:26 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: But while on the topic, how do you feel about people who break the law? Should they get off with no punishment? Should we all start deciding which laws we want to obey and which we don't? The USA would really go to hell in a hand basket real quick if we all decided that our law breaking actions were courageous and should be ok. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
It's a tripod design, not pedistal as I had written before. They must be built like the old Craftsmans. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How do you tell if an SLC is a 5.0?
As someone pointed out earlier - they should have an aluminum hood and trunk lid. Transplant a Euro 5.0 Aluminum block engine instead of the early iron 4.5 (or a 603 turbo). On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I just remembered a simpler, if less precise way of telling the difference. A 5.0 should have a urethane lip on the trunk lid like a 1970's Saab turbo, shouldn't it? This one doesn't. Every 450SLC 5.0 I've ever seen in real life (two) or in pictures (dozens) has had the little trunk spoiler, even the factory rally cars. OTOH, Jamie's the expert here. Find a 380SL that broke the timing chain and blew up, and transplant the hi-po Euro 4.5 and small bumpers? Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
Kevin Kraly wrote: I'm throwing out my Dad's junk stands. Ironically, he gave me his good old Craftsman pedistal stands with the pin that fits into the holes for proper height adjustment. We've used these ratcheting stands for years, but they won't be used anymore. Could be a good move. I can watch the lever rise and fall as the stand ratchets up, it might be a lot less obvious to you if it didn't fully engage. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 V-8 pumpkin
Unless he's recycled them, Kaleb has a nice supply of differentials - he can probably set you up with whatever ratio you want --- On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/2280716731.html Would this fit other cars, say a 124? Would my existing half-shafts bolt up to it? That's a question that I'm sure Dave M. has answered. Maybe you can find it on his web page, or you can email him. http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_diffs/ I bet you're right. Unfortunately I should have Googled before I posted. Seems the stock '87 300D diff is a 2.79. Not worth changing---I thought it was over 3 like a 300E. Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals
Don't forget the speedo... Oh the horror. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:03:57 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] illegals Message-ID: 4d8b959d.8060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed They are easy to pick out anyway because they are from Quebec and have a heavy French accent. They might claim to be from Louisiana but don't believe them. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rental steam cleaners?
IIRC (which is in doubt), the leather seats in the SLC were perforated in some places, the rear seat in particular - because that's where the really dry old leather tore just from sitting on it. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:15 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the older MB perforated any of the leather, but some of the new AMG models do have perforated leather. I'm kind of curious now, I'll have to have a peek at closer look at some of the pics in my large folder of older Mercedes. Ed 300E On 24 March 2011 16:37, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I am thinking mine are Tex because the seat covers are pleated and perforated... leather would not be perforated would it? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
I do not see how the ratcheting kind of jack stand could _ever_ be released when it was under compression. Mine sure won't! I had one cheapie whose handle came loose from the pawl, the roll pin broke. I just repinned it. The problem was you couldn't release it, not that it was unsafe. I don't trust the steel pinned stands any more than the cast ratcheting ones, the steel is usually a bit thin and I've seen the pin shearing its way through a tube. The jack was removed from under the car? I always leave the jack there as a safety backup, unless there truly is no way to do that and get the job done. Tires are usually under there too, and maybe even an anvil! Leaving the jack there too would probably have saved his life. I do not blame the creeper, particularly. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals
OK Don wrote: and Mao already tells us that our country is go to hell in a hand basket. Defeat the argument, if you think that is possible. Is the argument sound or faulty? We are all welfare recipients, or welfare recipients in waiting. We want big honkin' government as much as any illegal, as much as any recipient we want to complain against - but we all hang around waiting for our share. Our share will never happen. That has already been shown and it is getting worse. Let's not wring our hands about how to keep our welfare share in order - let's get busy on solutions against the welfare we *think* we deserve and abandon what we think we have coming. It ain't coming, it ain't gonna happen, lets get busy against the fall that is happening around us as we ignore it and deny it's happening. Admit failure, resolve the problem, move on. Rape the social security network, realize it is toast and gone. Raid the medicare fund, abandon the military budget, get the country back on stable ground, abandon the all sacred vote and move on to another form of government - democracy is not god, price is not god, move one, everyone. It's dead, Jim. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Don't forget the speedo... Oh the horror. Just got back from a week in gulf coast Florida, where there were many Canadians but I didn't hear anyone speaking French and thankfully didn't see anyone wearing a speedo. Actually most seemed to be from Ontario judging by license plates. I don't think I saw any from Quebec. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Totally OT: Dead microwave
The Panasonic microwave in our kitchen went from fully functional to completely non-functional, literally overnight. Plugged into a live outlet, it shows no response to pressing any of the buttons. No clock, timer, or food heating I can't find the brochure to see if there is a troubleshooting tip to solve this issue. I am thinking it might be a fuse but where to begin looking for it? Anyone have any success in awakening a dormant microwave oven? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Totally OT: Dead microwave
First off, how old? If newer than ~ 5 years, buy a new one, they're now built to be thrown out... Walt On Mar 24, 2011 10:48 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The Panasonic microwave in our kitchen went from fully functional to completely non-functional, literally overnight. Plugged into a live outlet, it shows no response to pressing any of the buttons. No clock, timer, or food heating I can't find the brochure to see if there is a troubleshooting tip to solve this issue. I am thinking it might be a fuse but where to begin looking for it? Anyone have any success in awakening a dormant microwave oven? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Totally OT: Dead microwave
Gen-U-Wine parts for your Mercedes, Andrew! Now go to craigslist and buy a wire welder and a sawzall if you don't have one. You too can do Catheyesque repairs! Seriously, look for a fuse, perhaps under an access panel with screw(s). Then take off the cover where the cord goes in and test the cord for continuity. 50-60% of small appliance failures are bad cords, particularly if they are wound around the appliance for storage. No fuse, no bad cord, use it for MB parts and buy another. The Panasonic microwave in our kitchen went from fully functional to completely non-functional, literally overnight. Plugged into a live outlet, it shows no response to pressing any of the buttons. No clock, timer, or food heating I can't find the brochure to see if there is a troubleshooting tip to solve this issue. I am thinking it might be a fuse but where to begin looking for it? Anyone have any success in awakening a dormant microwave oven? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 300D Feeling Slugish
you have a vacuum leak somewhere. On 3/23/2011 10:58 PM, Larry T wrote: Howdy Gang - I picked up my '91 300D today following installation of a rebuilt AT I bought from Rusty. So far it is a huge improvement - of course, going from not havong reverse and some forward gears will do that ;-^ Rusty says he has sold thousands of these ATs with only 3 problems - 2 were installer problems and one was fixed easily. Which gives me confidence in the AT. It shifts a little on the firm side but I suspect that's to be expected since it's new and will become more fluid as it is broken in ((fingers crossed). This is one area I have little to no experience in - breaking in a new AT. Suggestions ? Also, the engine doesn't seem as peppy as it was - like maybe the Turbo isn't spooling up properly . Are there any specific problems that might cause this? It started doing this before the AT died all the way - Tomorrow I'll check filters and vacuum hoses ... initially I thought because the tranny was slipping that that caused the slow feeling but that's no longer the case. And I'm not sure if it's me or the control logic - but it seems to want to shift too quickly - but not all of the time .. Is this because the AT is new? Or does something need adjusting? Also, Is the vaccuum modulator adjustable? One more thing - the switch that telecopes the steering column only clicks in the rearward direction - it will not move the column at all forward. Does that sound like the switch? Wiring? Motor? Thanks to all - Larry p Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: The Japanese Reactor Leaks - Without the Hype
Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:46:59 -0600 Subject: The Japanese Reactor Leaks - Without the Hype http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.9060/pub_detail.asp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 300D Feeling Slugish
Check to make sure the pressure line from the intake (in the center on the OM603) to the over-pressure valve to the ALDA to the shift controller is OK. Check to make sure it does not vent out at the overpressure switch, as this will eliminate most of your boost effect. It has to be intact all the way to the shift control module -- it's on the fender and looks like a blue car horn. Also make sure the vacuum lines are all intact and that you actually have vacuum to the valve on the side of the engine and on to the shift controller, and from there to the transmission. If the line holds vacuum, check the turbo. They do go bad -- I think mine is fried, too. They are supposed to shift firmly -- sloppy shifting is a sign of being worn out. They last longer that way, too. however, it should not me obnoxious -- it can be adjusted at the vacuum modulator AFTER you get everything else working. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals
Gee guys, Can you really equate entering a country illegally and stealing resources away from the rightful citizens of that country to speeding. If you can, then maybe you missed Civics class in high school. I'm by far NOT a law and order citizen, but I do believe that you try to obey all laws and try to change those you find unjust or just wrong or outdated...and you make those changes via the legal methods as prescribed by law. So, I'll admit that I have been guilty of speeding on occasion, but I have never illegally entered another country. And as for basically doing away with the USA and its form of government because we believe it all is wrong means we accept the fact that we haven't chosen our politicians very well. Instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water, we might consider: Selecting politicians based on character and not charisma. Listening to what is said and not how it's said. Vetting for completeness and not for convenience. Over the decades of my life, I've seen the quality of life in the USA diminish because personal interest groups have socially, politically, and legally chiseled away at our society. Some things needed changed, but we have gone so far that some think everything should be allowed. I don't want totalitarianism nor do I want anarchy. I think people try to make light of issues, scorn or make fun of those they don't agree with, but if we don't start getting serious and fixing things, then the joke will be on all of us. I for one have never had a free ride in life and I will not condone giving it to someone else regardless of how courageous someone thinks their actions are. MB content: How can the Arab countries be having so many problems when I see so many Mercedes in the news clips? Can't they share the MBs and just enjoy? Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] illegals and costs
...I love the way law and order citizens holler about the illegal immigrants, then break the speed limit every time they drive... I break the speed limit every time I drive someplace but it doesn't cost the state a nickel for welfare, uninsured ER visits or the other drains on the state treasury. That really wasn't a good comparison, was it? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Father's Letter
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I don't trust the steel pinned stands any more than the cast ratcheting ones, the steel is usually a bit thin and I've seen the pin shearing its way through a tube. I just got a Griot's Garage catalog in the mail with these in it: http://tinyurl.com/4buwvc4 Seems to me 3/8 aluminum would be a little less likely to suffer the same fate... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jackstands, reviews [was Re: A Father's Letter]
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:47:38 -0700 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I don't trust the steel pinned stands any more than the cast ratcheting ones, the steel is usually a bit thin and I've seen the pin shearing its way through a tube. I just got a Griot's Garage catalog in the mail with these in it: http://tinyurl.com/4buwvc4 Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Seems to me 3/8 aluminum would be a little less likely to suffer the same fate... Collapsing downward is not the only failure mode. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jackstands, reviews [was Re: A Father's Letter]
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:47:38 -0700 Alex Chamberlain I just got a Griot's Garage catalog in the mail with these in it: http://tinyurl.com/4buwvc4 Take a look at http://revlimiter.net/blog/2010/07/mega-jack-stand-review-1/ The fellow reviewed a jack that looks like it (the Torin) and said the stability was poor. Yeah, the base could be a lot bigger on those, couldn't it? I didn't realize how small it was until I saw the side-by-side comparison. Collapsing downward is not the only failure mode. Of course not! That's why I use the Escos with their HUGE base. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
