Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Well, the electrons are flowing, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:48:45 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, the electrons are flowing, anyway. Yup, they sure are. I just checked my email and saw your message, Wilton. How are things there in North Carolina? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:48 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, the electrons are flowing, anyway. Yes but the axons, dendrites, and synapses aren't firing yet. At least mine aren't. And Arthur Itus seems to be acting up today. Must be the changing weather. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach AC now working
On 24/10/2012 5:26 PM, G. M. Brown wrote: I drilled out an extra hole in the 4-pin female receptacle for the overload protection relay (original = 126 540 47 45) so it would accept the replacement 5-pin overload protection relay (replacement = 201 540 08 45,Note: this 5th hole is not connected to anything) and voila both my tach AC are now working. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ Could you have just cut off the extra pin? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Yup! Me too. I too am sick of Arthur and his ilk. Just me mumbling in my beer. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:48 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, the electrons are flowing, anyway. Yes but the axons, dendrites, and synapses aren't firing yet. At least mine aren't. And Arthur Itus seems to be acting up today. Must be the changing weather. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach AC now working
I forgot to add that a couple guys at the M-B Classic Center in CA had been trying to resolve the overload protection relay problem for a number of weeks where the replacement part is now a 5-pin relay (201 540 08 45) whereas the original part was a 4-pin relay (126 540 47 45) but hadn't gotten back to me. Note: The overload protection relay and Klima relay were added to the '85 models so, for those of you with '85s, beware. I've also got a problem with a surging cruise control when the turn signal is activated as well as an inaccurate fuel gauge. The fuel gauge tends to head towards empty rather quickly and sit there until the reserve light comes on. I'm wondering if this problem may be in the gauge or the sending unit? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach AC now working
The fuel gauge sending units in these models are extremely easy to access and clean. I wrote up a procedure in this that was on Richard's vrx.net site some years back. Can't hurt to check it out and clean it up if necessary. Dan On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:47 AM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I forgot to add that a couple guys at the M-B Classic Center in CA had been trying to resolve the overload protection relay problem for a number of weeks where the replacement part is now a 5-pin relay (201 540 08 45) whereas the original part was a 4-pin relay (126 540 47 45) but hadn't gotten back to me. Note: The overload protection relay and Klima relay were added to the '85 models so, for those of you with '85s, beware. I've also got a problem with a surging cruise control when the turn signal is activated as well as an inaccurate fuel gauge. The fuel gauge tends to head towards empty rather quickly and sit there until the reserve light comes on. I'm wondering if this problem may be in the gauge or the sending unit? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] hot topic?
Ok, someone needs to start a good thread or we are going to be back into another oil thread or something similar. This may be considered almost as bad. I will pose a question that I know has been asked before but bear with me if possible and give me your opinions. I may want to drive my 76 300D from Winnipeg to Ottawa and back next spring - summer. That is about 1200 miles each way. The car is fairly good in my opinion. I have driven it from Winnipeg to the lake and back at least a couple of times this past spring and it did fine on the highway at speeds up to 75 mph or more. That is a trip of about 175 miles each way. In previous years I have driven it similar distances in different directions without any problems. There are some things I should do, like adjust the valves etc and I want to change coolant and AT fluid etc. I have new belts to install and it has a new battery this year. I also want to have a close look at the tires since i have no idea how old they are. They were on it when I got it in July 2005. They are Michelins and have lots of tread but they are aging I assume. So, the gist of all this is: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? I believe much is still available for these old cars without too much searching so if I do have an issue on the road, I assume it could be addressed reasonably quickly. We would go south into the USA and then east through to Duluth and then east again through Northern Michigan and cross into Southern Ontario at Sault St Marie most likely and then run east to Ottawa. Would be probably 3 days each way of about 400 miles per day. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Very well; 73, clear, sunny; IVIG treatment tomorrow morning at 7. How there? Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:48:45 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, the electrons are flowing, anyway. Yup, they sure are. I just checked my email and saw your message, Wilton. How are things there in North Carolina? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
Belts, hoses, filters, spare tire, maybe some exhaust donuts, ipod with lots of tunes, munchies. Tool kit with some wire and duct tape. --R On 10/25/12 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
Well there is one thing I should do. There is no radio in it at the moment. The one that was in it when I got it was an aftermarket junker that did not work so I pulled it out. The kids gave me a Pioneer unit for father's day and I have never installed it. Partly because I assume it will need better speakers and I have not gone looking for sizes that will fit in original spots. So, in order to plug in the ipod I need to install the stereo. Randy On 25/10/2012 11:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Belts, hoses, filters, spare tire, maybe some exhaust donuts, ipod with lots of tunes, munchies. Tool kit with some wire and duct tape. --R On 10/25/12 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach AC now working
Sounds like a weak ground issue. Mike On Oct 25, 2012 11:47 AM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I forgot to add that a couple guys at the M-B Classic Center in CA had been trying to resolve the overload protection relay problem for a number of weeks where the replacement part is now a 5-pin relay (201 540 08 45) whereas the original part was a 4-pin relay (126 540 47 45) but hadn't gotten back to me. Note: The overload protection relay and Klima relay were added to the '85 models so, for those of you with '85s, beware. I've also got a problem with a surging cruise control when the turn signal is activated as well as an inaccurate fuel gauge. The fuel gauge tends to head towards empty rather quickly and sit there until the reserve light comes on. I'm wondering if this problem may be in the gauge or the sending unit? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
I put some new speakers in the TD years ago, and apparently the Benz speakers are some weird size, but if I recall the 4 (I think that is what they are) generally available speakers will fit with a little adjustment, and made a huge difference in sound. These were in the back, the fronts looked pretty hard to deal with. You will also need to run new wires or use the existing and bypass the fade wheel, to get the 4-way stereo/fade on the newer units. Nothing too exotic, just a bit time consuming. --R On 10/25/12 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Well there is one thing I should do. There is no radio in it at the moment. The one that was in it when I got it was an aftermarket junker that did not work so I pulled it out. The kids gave me a Pioneer unit for father's day and I have never installed it. Partly because I assume it will need better speakers and I have not gone looking for sizes that will fit in original spots. So, in order to plug in the ipod I need to install the stereo. Randy On 25/10/2012 11:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Belts, hoses, filters, spare tire, maybe some exhaust donuts, ipod with lots of tunes, munchies. Tool kit with some wire and duct tape. --R On 10/25/12 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Debian seems to, at least, and if not there are the BSDs, OpenBSD, NetBSD probably being the ones I'd look at, FreeBSD is pretty heavily x86 oriented I think. Allan On Mon, Oct 22, 2012, at 08:02 PM, Rolf wrote: Surely linux still has a sparc build? Sent via string from my tin can. Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: That thing will probably suck a LOT of power. And according to Wikipedia the V890 had UltraSPARC processors, and it's also EOL-ed so no support or parts other than what you can find on the secondhand market. I don't think any VMWare stuff will run on Sparc. But not certain. I think you be better off with a more power-efficient, newer Intel or AMD-based host. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our library circulation system. I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.) I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach AC now working
Randy, Re: Could you have just cut off the extra pin? Probably, ain't it great to have choices. Dan, Re: I wrote up a procedure in this that was on Richard's vrx.net site some years back Could you direct me to this procedure? Michael, Re: Sounds like a weak ground issue Nope, ground checks out OK. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach AC now working
If you Google fuel gauge sender Penoff you'll find some links to it. Strangely, one of the first is on a University of Oregon hosted web site. Dan On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:19 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Randy, Re: Could you have just cut off the extra pin? Probably, ain't it great to have choices. Dan, Re: I wrote up a procedure in this that was on Richard's vrx.net site some years back Could you direct me to this procedure? Michael, Re: Sounds like a weak ground issue Nope, ground checks out OK. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
Fuel filters, spare belts, basic tool kit, fuses including pre-glow relay fuse. Check tires, brakes, wheel bearing grease. Change the thermostat and radiator cap when you do the coolant. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ok, someone needs to start a good thread or we are going to be back into another oil thread or something similar. This may be considered almost as bad. I will pose a question that I know has been asked before but bear with me if possible and give me your opinions. I may want to drive my 76 300D from Winnipeg to Ottawa and back next spring - summer. That is about 1200 miles each way. The car is fairly good in my opinion. I have driven it from Winnipeg to the lake and back at least a couple of times this past spring and it did fine on the highway at speeds up to 75 mph or more. That is a trip of about 175 miles each way. In previous years I have driven it similar distances in different directions without any problems. There are some things I should do, like adjust the valves etc and I want to change coolant and AT fluid etc. I have new belts to install and it has a new battery this year. I also want to have a close look at the tires since i have no idea how old they are. They were on it when I got it in July 2005. They are Michelins and have lots of tread but they are aging I assume. So, the gist of all this is: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? I believe much is still available for these old cars without too much searching so if I do have an issue on the road, I assume it could be addressed reasonably quickly. We would go south into the USA and then east through to Duluth and then east again through Northern Michigan and cross into Southern Ontario at Sault St Marie most likely and then run east to Ottawa. Would be probably 3 days each way of about 400 miles per day. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
Sounds like you're going to need 5 new tires, the spare is probably VERY old. I carry new fuel filters, the tools to replace them and some nitrile gloves so I don't have to have smelly hands. Other than that I have a cell phone and know how to use it. This week I've been driving my '78 240D 110 miles a day while my '84 190D is down awaiting delivery valve seals. Take the car out for a couple 100 mile drives in the weeks before the big trip, change all the fluids (engine, AT, coolant, differential), adjust the valves, maybe do the front wheel bearings if its been a long time on those. Then drive and enjoy it. Stuff might break but you see people with brand new cars on the side of the road all the time... -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:08:12 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] hot topic? Message-ID: 508963ec.7050...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ok, someone needs to start a good thread or we are going to be back into another oil thread or something similar. This may be considered almost as bad. I will pose a question that I know has been asked before but bear with me if possible and give me your opinions. I may want to drive my 76 300D from Winnipeg to Ottawa and back next spring - summer. That is about 1200 miles each way. The car is fairly good in my opinion. I have driven it from Winnipeg to the lake and back at least a couple of times this past spring and it did fine on the highway at speeds up to 75 mph or more. That is a trip of about 175 miles each way. In previous years I have driven it similar distances in different directions without any problems. There are some things I should do, like adjust the valves etc and I want to change coolant and AT fluid etc. I have new belts to install and it has a new battery this year. I also want to have a close look at the tires since i have no idea how old they are. They were on it when I got it in July 2005. They are Michelins and have lots of tread but they are aging I assume. So, the gist of all this is: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? I believe much is still available for these old cars without too much searching so if I do have an issue on the road, I assume it could be addressed reasonably quickly. We would go south into the USA and then east through to Duluth and then east again through Northern Michigan and cross into Southern Ontario at Sault St Marie most likely and then run east to Ottawa. Would be probably 3 days each way of about 400 miles per day. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Fluid [was Re: hot topic?]
As I recall, DOT3 and DOT4 are compatible and DOT4 is superior. MBZ always specified DOT4 as long as I've had MBZ cars. DOT5 is a whole different chemistry that's NOT compatible with DOT3/4 and possibly incompatible with DOT3/4 seals, etc. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:04 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake Fluid [was Re: hot topic?] On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:36:01 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Drain and refill the brakes with DOT 4 fluid unless you have or want to change to DOT 5. BEWARE there is a new DOT5e or something like that that is out, and it is NOT DOT5 and it is NOT compatible with DOT5. I recall hearing DOT 4 was more hygroscopic than DOT 3 and was a poor choice to use. I haven't heard about the introduction of DOT 5. Any elucidation? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
I think 123 rears are 5 or 6 I forget, 201 rears are 4 I just ordered some cheap Kenwood replacements for my 190D which has gotten all crackly. I'm not much of a stereophile so cheap works for me. I put some cheap Pioneers in the rear of my '78 240D to replace some that didn't work at all. I think in both cases I paid around $30 a pair. Fronts are pretty easy if you don't have a dash cover, the screws aren't super tight, use a phillips head bit in your fingers, worst case use a small wrench to turn it. -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:15:05 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] hot topic? Message-ID: 50897399.8010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I put some new speakers in the TD years ago, and apparently the Benz speakers are some weird size, but if I recall the 4 (I think that is what they are) generally available speakers will fit with a little adjustment, and made a huge difference in sound. These were in the back, the fronts looked pretty hard to deal with. You will also need to run new wires or use the existing and bypass the fade wheel, to get the 4-way stereo/fade on the newer units. Nothing too exotic, just a bit time consuming. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
I may be able to source some speakers from PnP. Yard is hosting a bunch of w124. At least the front 4 could be useful, if not the rears. clay On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I put some new speakers in the TD years ago, and apparently the Benz speakers are some weird size, but if I recall the 4 (I think that is what they are) generally available speakers will fit with a little adjustment, and made a huge difference in sound. These were in the back, the fronts looked pretty hard to deal with. You will also need to run new wires or use the existing and bypass the fade wheel, to get the 4-way stereo/fade on the newer units. Nothing too exotic, just a bit time consuming. --R On 10/25/12 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Well there is one thing I should do. There is no radio in it at the moment. The one that was in it when I got it was an aftermarket junker that did not work so I pulled it out. The kids gave me a Pioneer unit for father's day and I have never installed it. Partly because I assume it will need better speakers and I have not gone looking for sizes that will fit in original spots. So, in order to plug in the ipod I need to install the stereo. Randy On 25/10/2012 11:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Belts, hoses, filters, spare tire, maybe some exhaust donuts, ipod with lots of tunes, munchies. Tool kit with some wire and duct tape. --R On 10/25/12 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
I have been using Mobil 1 on all my cars for a decade. If you are going to swap out fluid and filter, then take the trip, I would do synth ATF with the full TC drain. Run it the 2k miles, which should loosen up and flush old gunk, then drain when you get home. Fill with synth ATF again. clay On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 25/10/2012 12:36 PM, Dieselhead wrote: So, the gist of all this is: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? I believe much is still available for these old cars without too much searching so if I do have an issue on the road, I assume it could be addressed reasonably quickly. We would go south into the USA and then east through to Duluth and then east again through Northern Michigan and cross into Southern Ontario at Sault St Marie most likely and then run east to Ottawa. Would be probably 3 days each way of about 400 miles per day. Randy In addition to the obvious, check the flex disks and carrier bearing carefully. replace the flex disks if there is cracking or tears. Check/change Diff grease and trans fluid prior to the start. Carry an extra set of fuel filters, and possibly a fan belt. Check the alt brushes, or just replace the brush/regulator pack. Check the jack, spare, toolkit. IF you are not sure about brake pads, check them too. Drain and refill the brakes with DOT 4 fluid unless you have or want to change to DOT 5. BEWARE there is a new DOT5e or something like that that is out, and it is NOT DOT5 and it is NOT compatible with DOT5. ___ The flex disks are something I intend to have a look at. I want to do the transmission oil and filter change too so that will be a good opportunity to have a good look. The alternatior brushes would also be a good thing to check. Good thinking. I have changed the brake fluid out once a couple of years ago. Wouldn't hurt to do so again I guess. SO - NEW QUESTION What sort of AT fluid do you recommend for these old cars? I believe the original was essentially the GM stuff. I don't suppose that it would hurt to use synthetic ATF. My truck uses the (sorry but cannot recall the designation) synthetic stuff recommended by Ford for the new transmissions. I assume the same stuff would work. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
RR injector fuel return lines. Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] hot topic? The what to take for spares is simple. EVERYTHING. sort of a joke. Fuel line is standard. Set of glow plugs and injectors. Two cans of diesel purge, and two diesel kleen, in case you get bad fuel. Spare fuses, wiper blades, small bulbs and a headlight. One oil filter, two fuel, both sizes, a priming pump, fan belts, and a set of coolant hoses. Rubber hose patch material and duct tape. Three liters of oil, one jug of coolant. Of course a decent tool kit. Join CAA or AAA. Get new tires, change out all the fluids and filters and do your brakes. With no CC, I think 400/ one tank of fuel per day, would be reasonable. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: Ok, someone needs to start a good thread or we are going to be back into another oil thread or something similar. This may be considered almost as bad. I will pose a question that I know has been asked before but bear with me if possible and give me your opinions. I may want to drive my 76 300D from Winnipeg to Ottawa and back next spring - summer. That is about 1200 miles each way. The car is fairly good in my opinion. I have driven it from Winnipeg to the lake and back at least a couple of times this past spring and it did fine on the highway at speeds up to 75 mph or more. That is a trip of about 175 miles each way. In previous years I have driven it similar distances in different directions without any problems. There are some things I should do, like adjust the valves etc and I want to change coolant and AT fluid etc. I have new belts to install and it has a new battery this year. I also want to have a close look at the tires since i have no idea how old they are. They were on it when I got it in July 2005. They are Michelins and have lots of tread but they are aging I assume. So, the gist of all this is: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? I believe much is still available for these old cars without too much searching so if I do have an issue on the road, I assume it could be addressed reasonably quickly. We would go south into the USA and then east through to Duluth and then east again through Northern Michigan and cross into Southern Ontario at Sault St Marie most likely and then run east to Ottawa. Would be probably 3 days each way of about 400 miles per day. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
Dieselhead wrote: Drain and refill the brakes with DOT 4 fluid unless you have or want to change to DOT 5. BEWARE there is a new DOT5e or something like that that is out, and it is NOT DOT5 and it is NOT compatible with DOT5. I believe that DOT 5.1 is compatible with 3 and 4, but meets the temperature specs of 5. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I Want This
They could sell a bunch of these in the US. http://bringatrailer.com/2012/10/22/glacier-ready-stretched-2002-mercedes-g500-pick-up/ Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
Ok, my hot topic kept you folks posting all day today and I got some good information to boot. Randy On 25/10/2012 4:16 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: I have changed the brake fluid out once a couple of years ago. Wouldn't hurt to do so again I guess. It should be changed every year, but every two years works OK for me. Little used cars in varying climate probably need it more often than daily drivers. Mitch. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Want This
awesome --R On 10/25/12 6:16 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: They could sell a bunch of these in the US. http://bringatrailer.com/2012/10/22/glacier-ready-stretched-2002-mercedes-g500-pick-up/ Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Fluid [was Re: hot topic?]
DOT4 is required for MB since at least 1959. DOT3 junk will swell the rubber parts and turn the hoses to the wheels into check valves that drag the brakes constantly. DOT 5 was introduced maybe 20 years ago. It is silicone based, and NOT compatible with any other brake fluid. DOT 5 is much less hydroscopic than 3 or 4. It is also not MB approved the last I knew. That may have changed with some of the newer high performance vehicles. DOT5e is NOT DOT5, is NOT silicone bast and is NOT compatible with DOT5. from my experience I'm not sure that 3 or 4 oare much different in regard to attracting water. Both do. Annual change of DOT4 brake fluid is normal maintenance. DOT4 systems can be switched over to DOT5 after thorough flushing with DOT 5 fluid. I have done this successfully, but you really need to bleed or flush the system monthly for a while, as DOT4 and rust seems to keep separating out for quite a while. DOT3 has a low boiling point.TO me, it is unsafe at any speed. DOT4 is good fluid. DOT5 has the highest boiling point, and is preferred for high performance braking. Elucidated? Or need more? On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:36:01 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Drain and refill the brakes with DOT 4 fluid unless you have or want to change to DOT 5. BEWARE there is a new DOT5e or something like that that is out, and it is NOT DOT5 and it is NOT compatible with DOT5. I recall hearing DOT 4 was more hygroscopic than DOT 3 and was a poor choice to use. I haven't heard about the introduction of DOT 5. Any elucidation? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
What's a dry sump engine? No oil pan? Is this a bad thing? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
The way I understand it, it's not all about hp. The extra displacement of the V8 should give the engine more grunt at higher road speeds. My guess is that at 70 plus mph the 6.9 will give the 3.0 V6 a run for it's money. Of course, I've driven neither car so I can't say based on experience. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
I'm with Clay, I think this is the BEST time to change to synthetics... That said I probably wouldn't bother for engine oil. Randy doesn't drive the car that much and doesn't drive it during the winter so he's not likely to get any of the real advantages synthetic would provide. -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 16:49:10 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] hot topic? Message-ID: CALHJ_1B6SYVwmx6GR7ggZ3u2VqP=b=Y=5fKO850C=b3lae9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow! If you guys carry all of these spares where do you put anything else? I carry spare fuel filters, a screwdriver, a crescent wrench, lug wrench, spare tire, fuses and jumper cables in the 83. If going on a long trip I carry a jug of oil and atf along with a jug of drinking water for me or the car. I wouldn't change types of lubricants just before a long trip like yours. I think you are asking for potential trouble with leaks as the syn oil does it's job and cleans out the gunk. Just my $.02. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
It's about torque. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The way I understand it, it's not all about hp. The extra displacement of the V8 should give the engine more grunt at higher road speeds. My guess is that at 70 plus mph the 6.9 will give the 3.0 V6 a run for it's money. Of course, I've driven neither car so I can't say based on experience. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
Dry sump means there is no oil pooling in the bottom of the engine...no oil pan. There is a separate oil tank with a pickup tube to supply all of the oil to engine under pressure. It's not a bad system. I have hundreds of flight hours with a Continental O-470 that was dry sump. It made inverted flight and aerobatics a breeze for the engine. On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: What's a dry sump engine? No oil pan? Is this a bad thing? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
Well if it's good enough for a plane it should be good enough for a car! Did you do inverted flight and aerobatics??!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dry sump means there is no oil pooling in the bottom of the engine...no oil pan. There is a separate oil tank with a pickup tube to supply all of the oil to engine under pressure. It's not a bad system. I have hundreds of flight hours with a Continental O-470 that was dry sump. It made inverted flight and aerobatics a breeze for the engine. On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: What's a dry sump engine? No oil pan? Is this a bad thing? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hot topic?
The W115 chassis has a single 5x7 front speaker mounted in the center of the grill - I remember this because that's where I did the last RR of the heater fan in my last '76 300D. I'd add check the half shaft CV boots - make sure they are not open. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:18 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I may be able to source some speakers from PnP. Yard is hosting a bunch of w124. At least the front 4 could be useful, if not the rears. clay On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I put some new speakers in the TD years ago, and apparently the Benz speakers are some weird size, but if I recall the 4 (I think that is what they are) generally available speakers will fit with a little adjustment, and made a huge difference in sound. These were in the back, the fronts looked pretty hard to deal with. You will also need to run new wires or use the existing and bypass the fade wheel, to get the 4-way stereo/fade on the newer units. Nothing too exotic, just a bit time consuming. --R On 10/25/12 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Well there is one thing I should do. There is no radio in it at the moment. The one that was in it when I got it was an aftermarket junker that did not work so I pulled it out. The kids gave me a Pioneer unit for father's day and I have never installed it. Partly because I assume it will need better speakers and I have not gone looking for sizes that will fit in original spots. So, in order to plug in the ipod I need to install the stereo. Randy On 25/10/2012 11:14 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Belts, hoses, filters, spare tire, maybe some exhaust donuts, ipod with lots of tunes, munchies. Tool kit with some wire and duct tape. --R On 10/25/12 12:08 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: What would you haul with in terms of spare parts etc.? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
Yes. On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well if it's good enough for a plane it should be good enough for a car! Did you do inverted flight and aerobatics??!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dry sump means there is no oil pooling in the bottom of the engine...no oil pan. There is a separate oil tank with a pickup tube to supply all of the oil to engine under pressure. It's not a bad system. I have hundreds of flight hours with a Continental O-470 that was dry sump. It made inverted flight and aerobatics a breeze for the engine. On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: What's a dry sump engine? No oil pan? Is this a bad thing? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
That was about the trashed E430 the guy is trying to sell, not sure how it got mixed up in a 6.9 thread unless I screwed up --R On 10/25/12 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
Good point. I don't think a 6.9 puts out 275hp. More like 250 or something. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That was about the trashed E430 the guy is trying to sell, not sure how it got mixed up in a 6.9 thread unless I screwed up --R On 10/25/12 6:44 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
I looked back at my original mail, it was titled Ouch -- Hey Max. Looks like relng...@aol.com messed it up and got my mail mixed in with his 6.9 rant. --R On 10/25/12 10:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Good point. I don't think a 6.9 puts out 275hp. More like 250 or something. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That was about the trashed E430 the guy is trying to sell, not sure how it got mixed up in a 6.9 thread unless I screwed up --R On 10/25/12 6:44 PM, wrote: ...Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for something. 275hp in a fairly tight package. I suppose you would need the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod. But that would be cool... You do realize that the 6.9 in the 116 is a dry sump engine because it's too tall to fit in the engine compartment, don't you? And 275hp is not much these days when MB's 3.0 V-6 puts out 306hp and can make 30mpg easily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dry sumps
.What's a dry sump engine? No oil pan? Is this a bad thing?.. A dry sump engine carries it's oil in a tank next to the engine. There is no oil pan but just a slight depression where the oil pickup for the scavenge pump is located. The main oil pump (likely in unit with the scavenge pump) draws it oil from the oil tank where the foam settles out and is filtered and then sent to the oil cooler and then to the oil galleries. The scavenge pump has vastly more pumping capacity because it's pumping mostly foam. Every aircoooled Porsche 911 engine ever built (since 1964) is a dry sump engine and carries on average of 11 quarts in the tank. Like the 6.9, this all allows the engine to be lower and lighter since it carries little oil itself. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
...My guess is that at 70 plus mph the 6.9 will give the 3.0 V6 a run for it's money. Of course, I've driven neither car so I can't say based on experience.. If you look at the published numbers, the ungoverned V-6 is faster than either the 6.3 or 6.9. But it is governed because of the H-Rated tires to 130mph so it's real top speed is not attainable. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
But which car would accelerate faster once at 70mph? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...My guess is that at 70 plus mph the 6.9 will give the 3.0 V6 a run for it's money. Of course, I've driven neither car so I can't say based on experience.. If you look at the published numbers, the ungoverned V-6 is faster than either the 6.3 or 6.9. But it is governed because of the H-Rated tires to 130mph so it's real top speed is not attainable. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Flying in Russia
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[MBZ] OT - Texas Car Wars, etc.
I 'spose you guys have seen the TV show Texas Car Wars and coupla other such car flipping shows. Rusty heap cars are rescued from junk/salvage yards, and most of them don't seem to get much more than new paint, upholstery, shiny wheels, tars, sometimes another used engine and/or tranny, etc.; cars often flipped/sold in a week or less. Buyers don't seem to ever look under them. In spite of all that shiny new paint, upholstery, etc., how can they not basically still be rusty POS? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car For Someone
Hail Dimitri. I spent weekends in fruitless pursuit of non=cr*pped out 6.3s and 6.9s so I am pretty jaded I guess. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Andrew is a miso116ist. My parents had a w116 with 330,000 miles on the clock and the interior was just fine. The 6.9 was a bit heavy as compared with a w109 6.3 which was a veritable rocket by comparison. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:19 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Way overhyped. Due to their fragile interiors they must never be driven anywhere the sun shines. Most 6.9s on the market fail this test and should be avoided like the plague. Huh? I thought the 6.9, however expensive to maintain correctly and own, is the Holy Grail of Mercedes, surpassed only by the 600 Pullman. Rick Who is... Puzzled... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying in Russia
It's just a normal Russian takeoff... you fly in Russia... you cheat death... This is why vodka was invented.. it makes you brave, no? On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:03 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.nycaviation.com/2012/10/is-this-the-most-dangerous-takeoff-ever-captured-on-video/#.UIlyoIbkaSo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] BB Pictures - A New Thread!
What needs to be done to enable my BB torch so I can email photos? The camera works fine but when I attempt to email a picture singly or as an attachment they don't transmit! Instead there is the following transaction error: failure at service. Was ist los? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] boiling Brake Fluid [was Re: hot topic?]
You can buy a tester pretty cheap, which will measure the amount of water in the fluid. Suppose you could do it with a multimeter? Or you can suck the old fluid out, boil it up for a while to steam the water off and put it back in once it has cooled down a bit. Hendrik who has a checker in the shed On 26/10/12 08:22, Dieselhead wrote: from my experience I'm not sure that 3 or 4 oare much different in regard to attracting water. Both do. Annual change of DOT4 brake fluid is normal maintenance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission
Wanted some advise or thoughts on using Amsoil ATF in my 85 Turbo. It is a synthetic rated as a Dexron II and III replacement. One mechanic I respect thought it was bad idea to use for reasons of causing leaking seals and the like in an older tranny. The tranny has been serviced regularly and has under 150K mile. Another mechanic who works on Mercedes thought it would be OK as long as it was an approved fluid by MBZ for their vehicles. I'm not sure if it's approved or not. Does anyone have any information and or thoughts about the use of synthetic Amsoil ATF in an older 123 Diesel with a 722.315 transmission? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BB Pictures - A New Thread!
What is a BB torch? --R On 10/25/12 11:25 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What needs to be done to enable my BB torch so I can email photos? The camera works fine but when I attempt to email a picture singly or as an attachment they don't transmit! Instead there is the following transaction error: failure at service. Was ist los? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CAR COLLECTIONS
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Re: [MBZ] BB Pictures - A New Thread!
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:35:55 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What is a BB torch? Good question. Ball bearing? Brigit Bardot? Black and bruised? On 10/25/12 11:25 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What needs to be done to enable my BB torch so I can email photos? The camera works fine but when I attempt to email a picture singly or as an attachment they don't transmit! Instead there is the following transaction error: failure at service. Was ist los? Can you connect your camera (what make and model is it?) to your computer and download the picture from the camera to your computer? Our Nikon CoolPix 775 connects with USB 1.0, but transfers pictures fine. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BB Pictures - A New Thread!
On 10/25/12 11:25 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: What needs to be done to enable my BB torch so I can email photos? The camera works fine but when I attempt to email a picture singly or as an attachment they don't transmit! Instead there is the following transaction error: failure at service. Rich Thomas wrote: What is a BB torch? Craig wrote: Good question. Ball bearing? Brigit Bardot? Black and bruised? Based on the rest of his post, I'm going to hazard a wild guess and say Blackberry. Hah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_Torch Seems I _could_ be right. -- Philip, who despises un-defined acronyms. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012, at 08:02 PM, Rolf wrote: Surely linux still has a sparc build? Allan Streib wrote: Debian seems to, at least, and if not there are the BSDs, OpenBSD, NetBSD probably being the ones I'd look at, FreeBSD is pretty heavily x86 oriented I think. The current stable release is available for a smaller set of processors than it used to be. The current list: 32-bit PC (i386) 64-bit PC (amd64) EABI ARM PowerPC SPARC Intel Itanium IA-64 MIPS (little endian) IBM S/390 MIPS (big endian) It is also (mostly) translated into more than two dozen languages. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.9
the ungoverned V-6 is faster than either the 6.3 or 6.9. HP == top speed Torque == acceleration For general smileage, more torque is better than more HP. My 200D 115 is _very_ drivable, even with what, 50-odd HP? But as a diesel it has more torque than the HP figure would lead the usual gasser-head to expect. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
