Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Canfield
Depends on how big of trees you plan to cut.  If nothing you plan to cut is
over 8 or so look at an Echo 14 or 16.  They are very light, super
dependable, plenty powerful enough to cut up the big stuff and very well
balanced for one hand use when doing a lot of small stuff.  If you are
doing primarily small stuff and limbing look for a saw you can run one
handed(handle on top) once you are comfortable with it.  You will be glad
you did.

For a bigger saw, in my opinion, nothing beats the new Jonsered saws.
Light for the size, smooth running, good handles, easy maintenance,
excellent quality and TONS of monster size wood chip chuckin'
power..lol.

Only downside to either is price but you are buying a machine that will
last you your lifetime if you care for it right.

Otherwise, if you want a cheap saw you can throw around, not give a crap
about and depend on to run every time you need it get a Poulan Wild Thing
that comes with the 18 bar.  Replace the 18 with a 16 and a decent quality
chain so it has enough power to run it.  Run nothing but non ethanol gas
and Poulan synyhetic 2 cycle oil.  $150 or so total, crude, plastic,
vibrates a lot, but otherwise can't be beat for the price.  I've had one
for about 5 years or so and ,knock on wood, it has never let me down.  I
have cut a LOT of firewood with it.

Just my $.02, Mike
On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
 keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
 much.

 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

 Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
 lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
 probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
 just rent one as needed?

 Allan
 --
 Allan Streib

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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Canfield
Man.  Sorry to hear that Roger.

Hope your good health is back with you soon.

Keep an open mind and google Rick Simpson Oil.  Finally accepted by the
American Cancer Society and the only 100% safe, PROVEN way to beat cancer.

Fuck cancer, fuck chemo.

Sorry, that subject hits hard with me lately.

Mike
On May 10, 2013 6:09 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  .Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?
 
  Dan
 
 
  On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
 
   Roger has gone missing.
  
   He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
  
   clay.
 
 My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
 anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been
 among the
 missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my
 death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under
 re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing
 a huge
 problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First
 Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near
 septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged
 to a two
 week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted
 to
 the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was
 headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the
 building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I
 was
 once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The
 most
 awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed
 with an
 indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time
 being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always attend.

 But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google
 it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that
 have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart
 damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance
 from
 my Cardiologist first.

 So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of
 the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No
 after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for
 three
 hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel
 quite
 normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made
 things easier for me.

 When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and
 I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at
 once
 which I hoped to do.

 RLE

 I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can
 become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has
 not
 had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I
 hope I can participate.


 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Max
I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that you 
take all safety precautions very seriously.  A chain saw is probably the single 
most dangerous tool a man can ever use.  If you can take a class locally, you 
can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely.

I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users, but 
I managed to never learn to use one.  My wife wants me to borrow one to remove 
a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it.  I think the 
risk of injury for a novice is just too great.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw
to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Canfield
A chain saw is no more dangerous than any other power tool if you simply
use common sense, go slow, wear safety gear andnpay attention to what you
are doing at all times.

Mike
On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that
 you take all safety precautions very seriously.  A chain saw is probably
 the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use.  If you can take a class
 locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely.

 I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users,
 but I managed to never learn to use one.  My wife wants me to borrow one to
 remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it.  I
 think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw
 to
 keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
 much.
 
 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.
 
 Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
 lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
 probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
 just rent one as needed?
 
 Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Max
Yes, but there is zero room for error.  And if the chain breaks during 
operation, it can easily destroy an arm, or a leg, or your face, etc.  
Leggings, helmet, eye protection, gloves, hearing protection, all recommended.  
Unfortunately an area logger would usually suffer a chain saw accident once 
every year or two in the area I grew up.  The resulting injuries were usually 
horrific, if the logger lived.  

Don't forget that all the protective equipment in the world won't help if (a) 
you don't use it and (b) the tree falls on you instead of away from you.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

A chain saw is no more dangerous than any other power tool if you
simply
use common sense, go slow, wear safety gear andnpay attention to what
you
are doing at all times.

Mike
On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise
that
 you take all safety precautions very seriously.  A chain saw is
probably
 the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use.  If you can take a
class
 locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one
safely.

 I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were
users,
 but I managed to never learn to use one.  My wife wants me to borrow
one to
 remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do
it.  I
 think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain
saw
 to
 keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
 much.
 
 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be
practical.
 
 Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
 lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
 probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
 just rent one as needed?
 
 Allan


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Re: [MBZ] CNG - was: Crown Vic?

2013-05-11 Thread Max
I have offended the diesel spirits, oh my!

Grant, Philip, I think you missed my point.  At current pricing, driving a CNG 
powered crown vic will cost less (by about half) than a gasoline powered 
version per mile, because CNG prices are low, like diesel vs gasoline was years 
ago.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

If you do a true apples to apples comparison of Diesel fuel and CNG
fuel,
which would include all the special handling equipment and engine
changes
necessary to actually run CNG, the BTU yield per pound of material is
still
much lower for CNG than Diesel.

Internal combustion engines are heat engines.. you have to make heat to
get
power. If the fuel used simply does not possess the density of BTU's
per
unit of fuel, it takes more of that fuel to make the equivalent useful
horse power.

CNG is the poster child for clean burning and for government
subsidy
but not for efficiency per pound of energy yield.  The argument can be
made
that without government subsidy keeping the GNG industry pumped up, no
one
would bother with it.

Numerous transit companies have ordered and used CNG buses as part of
their
fleet mix. In every case, as soon as the government money which
supported
them ran out.. they were retired and sold off for pennies on the
dollar..

Grant...
Who presently owns 3 retired diesel buses and has owned more than 10 in
the
past 10 years and has had a good look at CNG buses at auctions.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:48:20 -0400
 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  I think that a CNG vehicle has a fuel cost per mile about half the
  equivalent gasoline powered vehicle.  CNG is the new diesel!

 No.  It is not a compression ignition.

 And CNG is more volatile than gasoline.

 And has to be in a _pressurized_ storage tank.

 But if there isn't a leak, long term storage potential is good.

 --   Philip, who chooses diesel _not_ because of price.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Canfield
I would like to hear from someone that has actually witnessed a saw chain
breaking...been around saws my whole life and never seen it.

Most chain saw injuries are due to carelessness.

Mike
On May 11, 2013 3:06 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Yes, but there is zero room for error.  And if the chain breaks during
 operation, it can easily destroy an arm, or a leg, or your face, etc.
  Leggings, helmet, eye protection, gloves, hearing protection, all
 recommended.  Unfortunately an area logger would usually suffer a chain saw
 accident once every year or two in the area I grew up.  The resulting
 injuries were usually horrific, if the logger lived.

 Don't forget that all the protective equipment in the world won't help if
 (a) you don't use it and (b) the tree falls on you instead of away from you.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 A chain saw is no more dangerous than any other power tool if you
 simply
 use common sense, go slow, wear safety gear andnpay attention to what
 you
 are doing at all times.
 
 Mike
 On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
  I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise
 that
  you take all safety precautions very seriously.  A chain saw is
 probably
  the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use.  If you can take a
 class
  locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one
 safely.
 
  I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were
 users,
  but I managed to never learn to use one.  My wife wants me to borrow
 one to
  remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do
 it.  I
  think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great.
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston, SC
  '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
  Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
  I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain
 saw
  to
  keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
  much.
  
  Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be
 practical.
  
  Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
  lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
  probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
  just rent one as needed?
  
  Allan
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-11 Thread Max
I found this, but no endorsement:

http://m.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsvitaminsandminerals/marijuana
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

Man.  Sorry to hear that Roger.

Hope your good health is back with you soon.

Keep an open mind and google Rick Simpson Oil.  Finally accepted by the
American Cancer Society and the only 100% safe, PROVEN way to beat
cancer.

Fuck cancer, fuck chemo.

Sorry, that subject hits hard with me lately.

Mike
On May 10, 2013 6:09 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  .Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?
 
  Dan
 
 
  On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:
 
   Roger has gone missing.
  
   He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.
  
   clay.
 
 My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
 anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have
been
 among the
 missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted
in my
 death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under
 re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up
causing
 a huge
 problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish
First
 Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to
near
 septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and
discharged
 to a two
 week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was
admitted
 to
 the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal.
I was
 headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in
the
 building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more
weeks I
 was
 once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay.
The
 most
 awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been
cursed
 with an
 indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for
the time
 being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always
attend.

 But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter
(google
 it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections
that
 have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some
heart
 damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical
clearance
 from
 my Cardiologist first.

 So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the
installallation of
 the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I
had. No
 after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room
for
 three
 hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I
feel
 quite
 normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which
made
 things easier for me.

 When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox
and
 I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all
at
 once
 which I hoped to do.

 RLE

 I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I
can
 become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which
has
 not
 had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August
and I
 hope I can participate.


 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Fmiser
Allan Streib wrote:

 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be
 practical.
 
 Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
 lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
 probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe
 should just rent one as needed?

I'm partial to Stihl.  Maybe it's the german engineering...  Anyway,
I have two, a big and a little one - but I cut a lot of wood.  For
years I had only the big one, which did the job fine but for limbing
it was heavy.  Yet for the big wood a big saw is rather necessary.
Recently I added the small one to the fleet.  It's mighty handy and
the 4 lb [2 kg] weight savings makes a big difference.

For what you are describing, a Stihl MS 180 could fit your needs
nicely.  
http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms180cbe/

For those who don't like jerking the starter rope, a recent
option is Easy2Startâ„¢ System, a spring loaded starter where a steady
pull winds a spring which then spins the engine.  I got to help a
friend who has one.  It really does work, and seems to be durable as
well.

If you often cut pieces greater than 12 inches [30 cm] in diameter,
you may wish for a bigger saw, but otherwise it's a handy size.

Beyond the saw, I would recommend rugged boots, chaps (with the saw
jamming stuffing), safety glasses, hardhat with face guard, and
sharpening tools.

Just remember, a good saw will cut the wood right quick - and cut
your leg even faster!

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saw danger

2013-05-11 Thread Hendrik and fay

One of the most important things is to keep it sharp and lubricated.
Blunt saws will get hot and stretch the chain.
Plan what you are doing and use ropes to pull the cut limbs in the 
direction you want them to go.
Be very careful if using a saw on a ladder, sometimes you gotta know 
when to get a pro in.
Most saws these days have chain brakes but if you use it at the wrong 
angle you can get into difficulty.


Hendrik
who has two chain saws

On 11/05/13 16:36, Max wrote:

Yes, but there is zero room for error.  And if the chain breaks during 
operation, it can easily destroy an arm, or a leg, or your face, etc.  
Leggings, helmet, eye protection, gloves, hearing protection, all recommended.  
Unfortunately an area logger would usually suffer a chain saw accident once 
every year or two in the area I grew up.  The resulting injuries were usually 
horrific, if the logger lived.

Don't forget that all the protective equipment in the world won't help if (a) 
you don't use it and (b) the tree falls on you instead of away from you.



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Re: [MBZ] Fiorini-Q, or maybe Q2-que?

2013-05-11 Thread Dwight Giles
The date for the next ChowdahQ is Sept 14, 2013.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Might be closer to me than IL.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 You are of course invited to the ChowdaQ in RI. I forget the date for
 this year but its early Sept.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley

Michael Canfield wrote:

I would like to hear from someone that has actually witnessed a saw chain
breaking...been around saws my whole life and never seen it.

Most chain saw injuries are due to carelessness.


It only takes an instant of carelessness.

I once got my little Husqvarna stuck in a little sapling, and I committed the 
unpardonable sin of letting go of the front handlebar when I wanted to bend the 
tree back to free my saw. Naturally, when the tree let go of the saw, it started 
to fall towards my leg. My instinctive response was to grab on tight. If I were 
holding onto the handlebar, I would have been holding it at the balance point 
and far from the trigger. Since I was holding the rear handle, the bar wanted to 
swing down at my legs and grabbing tight gave me full throttle. Now I had a 
screaming saw falling towards my leg. I arrested the fall about an inch from my 
kneecap. I shut off the saw and went home. Ordered kevlar chaps and a forester's 
helmet the next day. Haven't needed the chaps yet, but the face shield on the 
helmet has kept twigs away from my eyes a few times.


Some simple rules:
Never put a body part above and in line with the bar and chain. Stand off to the 
left of the line of cut. You don't want a kickback to hit you in the forehead.

Never let go of the front handle.
Always engage the chain brake before walking with the saw, even a couple of 
steps between cuts. Only takes a second to click the brake on and off, and you 
want the brake on if you trip or fall.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning - Freeze 12

2013-05-11 Thread Jon Agne
I'll be heading to NAPA when I get my o-rings out.


On May 10, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

 I've decided to use ES-12 this time.  I was trying to locate some of the 
 Frigi-Quiet II compressor oil, but am beginning to believe it's mythical in 
 existence.  Any recommendations for proper mineral oil, or should I just get 
 what Car-Quest has on the shelf?
 And yes,  I will flush the system thoroughly.
 Jon
 '85 300D
 
 NAPA carries wax-free mineral oil; about $30/qt.
 Gerry 
 
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-11 Thread John Reames
Amen!

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On May 10, 2013, at 20:33, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Roger, glad to see you posting again and still among the living!
 
 I'll be praying for your health to return and for your surgeons to be 
 skilled.  
 
 This list is not the same without you.
 -- 
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 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fiorini-Q, or maybe Q2-que?

2013-05-11 Thread Dieselhead

That'd be the one.  Mike is a leader iin  the hard cider biz


Dieselhead wrote:


You in Charlotte?


Yes.


  Do you know Mike Beck of Uncle John's?


No.
When you say Uncle John's, all I can think of is the cider mill near St Johns.


Mitch.


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[MBZ] Q2 pkg

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON
Rcvd smaller, lighter pkg yesterday, Q2; ATTABOY; thanks.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON
'Terribly sorry about your misfortune, but glad some corrective steps are 
being taken; 'hope all goes well.


I thought had little bit of a not-so-good day yesterday after my IVIG 
treatment finished at 0930; slightly nauseous rest of the day, which I 
haven't felt before, but I realize now that I was really having a great day.

.
Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: relng...@aol.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the missing



.Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger?

Dan


On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote:

 Roger has gone missing.

 He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer.

 clay.


My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or
anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been 
among the
missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in 
my

death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under
re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing 
a huge

problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First
Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near
septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged 
to a two
week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted 
to
the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I 
was

headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the
building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I 
was
once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The 
most
awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed 
with an
indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the 
time
being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events   which I always 
attend.


But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google
it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that
have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart
damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance 
from

my Cardiologist first.

So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of
the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No
after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for 
three
hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel 
quite

normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made
things easier for me.

When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and
I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at 
once

which I hoped to do.

RLE

I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can
become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has 
not
had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and 
I

hope I can participate.









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Re: [MBZ] way OT - looking for a left handed worker who wears gloves

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON

Dave gets and ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: David  Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] way OT - looking for a left handed worker who wears gloves



At 10:33 AM 5/7/2013, Rick wrote:

(snip)


Hey, what do I know? I'm left hand dominant.


 Have I got a deal for you.  Or someone else who is left handed 
and wears work gloves.


 As it happens I am right handed and have found I wear out first 
the right hand gloves I use in the garden and around the place.  I 
hate to throw away the half worn left gloves.  I have a box of them 
(mostly cheap leather faced) on a shelf.  Probably 40 or 50 of 
them.  So here's what I have been thinking.  Somewhere out there is a 
thrifty guy like me who is left handed and hates to throw away the 
half worn right hand gloves.  We trade!


 For the price of one of these USPS flat rate boxes we save 
ourselves significant bucks.  Or if you are nearby and want a place 
to go for a Sunday drive come see me.  Spring is lovely here.  Send a 
message and i will send directions.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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 Happiness is wanting what you get. 



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Re: [MBZ] IVIG [was Re: (no subject)....facebook.]

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON
Treatment itself went very well, as usual, but rest of day (afternoon) not 
so good - slight nausea and hangover from Benadryl.  In retrospect, though, 
a great day after reading of Roger's travails.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:50 PM
Subject: [MBZ] IVIG [was Re: (no subject)facebook.]



On Thu, 9 May 2013 17:14:43 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Real fun morning 7 to 10 AM in hospital tomorrow for IVIG.


How did your IVIG treatment go, Wilton?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
Well if we're going hippie...

And you're up for pushing the limits on convention and have a totally open 
mind. A trip to Peru, and a night on Ayahuasca could do wonders. I have known 
several people (including myself) who have come back from Ayahuasca... changed 
:) many stories of remission and cures around the net. 

Activated Charcoal is also something that you could regularly work into your 
diet to better absorb and pass toxins.

Hope you champion that shit and can continue to do things you love!

Darren Marshall
http://doejo.com
http://bowtruss.com

On May 11, 2013, at 7:17 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

 Amen!
 
 --
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 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905
 
 On May 10, 2013, at 20:33, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Roger, glad to see you posting again and still among the living!
 
 I'll be praying for your health to return and for your surgeons to be 
 skilled.  
 
 This list is not the same without you.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston, SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Dr. wife tells her patients I can't tell you it will help, but it won't 
hurt either.


--R


On 5/11/13 3:44 AM, Max wrote:

I found this, but no endorsement:

http://m.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsvitaminsandminerals/marijuana



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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I have one of those orange things from Lowes, once I get it running it 
is pretty good.  It takes a while to get started, might be the crappy 
gas or something.  I have a 45 or 50 yo Homelite XL that I like but the 
pickup got goobered and I have not fixed it.  It has no safety features 
whatsoever but ran and cut great.  I remember when my dad bought it, I 
think he used it like twice.


--R


On 5/11/13 12:38 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?

Allan
--


I have liked Stihl, but if you can find a 40 yr old Homelite super EZ 
(16) they are nice.


the big box poulans are cheap and surprisingly reliable for new saws.

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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas
The second or third largest purveyor of PBR in the country is a little 
dump in Chucktown called The Recovery Room which is across the road 
from the medical university.  Talk about a contradiction.


--R


On 5/10/13 7:55 PM, Darren Marshall wrote:

PBR's marketing firm would call them influencers


Darren Marshall
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http://bowtruss.com

On May 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which was 
pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also can give you 
a wicked headache.

I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full getup is 
carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to tell him what a 
dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.

--(notPB)R


On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good after
a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of the
day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.

Mike
On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:


Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty (boh).

Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't think
natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

--
John W Reames
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Mobile: +14437915905

On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Hendrik and fay wrote:

These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites

that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.

This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz

http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/

The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't

say PBR.

The rest are names I've never heard of.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saw danger

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON
'Had a real tree pro here yesterday to remove two relatively small trees. 
One of 'em was a magnolia soulangiana (large, pink, tulip-like flowers) way 
too close to the house and always making a mess our side steps and 
terrace/patio.  About four feet above ground, the single 22 trunk branched 
into four 10 trunks that soared 35 feet or so above side of house for way 
too long.  Tree guy already had one of the trunks down when I got home from 
IVIG treatment at 1000.  It was a pleasure to sit out in yard and watch him 
in action up in the tree, planning each cut and each fall - never 
touched/damaged nearby house, windows, power line, steps/stoop railing, 
brick wall, wooden gate, hedges, dogwood trees, flower beds, etc.  Guy was 
very careful, methodical and thoughtful the entire time, not only for his 
own safety and that of his crew, but also took great care to protect my 
property.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saw danger



One of the most important things is to keep it sharp and lubricated.
Blunt saws will get hot and stretch the chain.
Plan what you are doing and use ropes to pull the cut limbs in the 
direction you want them to go.
Be very careful if using a saw on a ladder, sometimes you gotta know when 
to get a pro in.
Most saws these days have chain brakes but if you use it at the wrong 
angle you can get into difficulty.


Hendrik
who has two chain saws

On 11/05/13 16:36, Max wrote:
Yes, but there is zero room for error.  And if the chain breaks during 
operation, it can easily destroy an arm, or a leg, or your face, etc. 
Leggings, helmet, eye protection, gloves, hearing protection, all 
recommended.  Unfortunately an area logger would usually suffer a chain 
saw accident once every year or two in the area I grew up.  The resulting 
injuries were usually horrific, if the logger lived.


Don't forget that all the protective equipment in the world won't help if 
(a) you don't use it and (b) the tree falls on you instead of away from 
you.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saw danger

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Canfield
Nice!  Good to hear.  We just had Asplund (sp?) drop a 60' tall willow.
Got the job done but tore up the flower bed nearby.  If NYSEG had not been
footing the bill for the job I would have escorted the cocky bucket man off
the property.  He dropped a limb in the flower bed as he wasn't watching
where he threw it that time.  I said something and his response was yeah,
I know. If you think you can do a better job then get up here and do it..
Told the foreman who heard the whole thing to get him out of the bucket and
I will gladly show him how to do it without tearing up peoples' stuff.

Mike
On May 11, 2013 11:18 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Had a real tree pro here yesterday to remove two relatively small trees.
 One of 'em was a magnolia soulangiana (large, pink, tulip-like flowers) way
 too close to the house and always making a mess our side steps and
 terrace/patio.  About four feet above ground, the single 22 trunk branched
 into four 10 trunks that soared 35 feet or so above side of house for way
 too long.  Tree guy already had one of the trunks down when I got home from
 IVIG treatment at 1000.  It was a pleasure to sit out in yard and watch him
 in action up in the tree, planning each cut and each fall - never
 touched/damaged nearby house, windows, power line, steps/stoop railing,
 brick wall, wooden gate, hedges, dogwood trees, flower beds, etc.  Guy was
 very careful, methodical and thoughtful the entire time, not only for his
 own safety and that of his crew, but also took great care to protect my
 property.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saw danger


  One of the most important things is to keep it sharp and lubricated.
 Blunt saws will get hot and stretch the chain.
 Plan what you are doing and use ropes to pull the cut limbs in the
 direction you want them to go.
 Be very careful if using a saw on a ladder, sometimes you gotta know when
 to get a pro in.
 Most saws these days have chain brakes but if you use it at the wrong
 angle you can get into difficulty.

 Hendrik
 who has two chain saws

 On 11/05/13 16:36, Max wrote:

 Yes, but there is zero room for error.  And if the chain breaks during
 operation, it can easily destroy an arm, or a leg, or your face, etc.
 Leggings, helmet, eye protection, gloves, hearing protection, all
 recommended.  Unfortunately an area logger would usually suffer a chain saw
 accident once every year or two in the area I grew up.  The resulting
 injuries were usually horrific, if the logger lived.

 Don't forget that all the protective equipment in the world won't help
 if (a) you don't use it and (b) the tree falls on you instead of away from
 you.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saw danger

2013-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff
In this area you can't cut down an oak tree without a permit and approval from 
the County. Oaks are a locally protected species.

We have one next to our driveway that was planted when the house was built 
around 1998/9.  It's causing the driveway slab to heave from the root 
expansion.  That's one way to get an exception from the rule.

I hate like heck to cut any mature tree down, but this one is trashing my 
driveway and it makes a mess almost all year round with the leaves it is 
constantly dropping.

Time to call in a professional and have it removed.  No way I would try and 
take something this big down - the top of the crown is probably 45'.

Dan

On May 11, 2013, at 11:18 AM, WILTON wrote:

 'Had a real tree pro here yesterday to remove two relatively small trees. One 
 of 'em was a magnolia soulangiana (large, pink, tulip-like flowers) way too 
 close to the house and always making a mess our side steps and 
 terrace/patio.  About four feet above ground, the single 22 trunk branched 
 into four 10 trunks that soared 35 feet or so above side of house for way 
 too long.  Tree guy already had one of the trunks down when I got home from 
 IVIG treatment at 1000.  It was a pleasure to sit out in yard and watch him 
 in action up in the tree, planning each cut and each fall - never 
 touched/damaged nearby house, windows, power line, steps/stoop railing, brick 
 wall, wooden gate, hedges, dogwood trees, flower beds, etc.  Guy was very 
 careful, methodical and thoughtful the entire time, not only for his own 
 safety and that of his crew, but also took great care to protect my property.
 
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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Canfield
The first largest is the entire population of the city of Detroit.

Mike
On May 11, 2013 11:11 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 The second or third largest purveyor of PBR in the country is a little
 dump in Chucktown called The Recovery Room which is across the road from
 the medical university.  Talk about a contradiction.

 --R


 On 5/10/13 7:55 PM, Darren Marshall wrote:

 PBR's marketing firm would call them influencers


 Darren Marshall
 http://doejo.com
 http://bowtruss.com

 On May 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
 constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

  It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which
 was pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also can
 give you a wicked headache.

 I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full
 getup is carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to
 tell him what a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.

 --(notPB)R


 On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

 I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good
 after
 a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of
 the
 day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.

 Mike
 On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

  Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty
 (boh).

 Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't
 think
 natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905

 On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

  Hendrik and fay wrote:

 These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites

 that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.

 This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz

 http://www.buymbparts.com/E-**Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/

 The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't

 say PBR.

 The rest are names I've never heard of.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas

Above Colt 45?

--R

On 5/11/13 11:35 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

The first largest is the entire population of the city of Detroit.

Mike
On May 11, 2013 11:11 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


The second or third largest purveyor of PBR in the country is a little
dump in Chucktown called The Recovery Room which is across the road from
the medical university.  Talk about a contradiction.

--R


On 5/10/13 7:55 PM, Darren Marshall wrote:


PBR's marketing firm would call them influencers


Darren Marshall
http://doejo.com
http://bowtruss.com

On May 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

  It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which

was pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also can
give you a wicked headache.

I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full
getup is carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to
tell him what a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.

--(notPB)R


On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:


I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good
after
a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of
the
day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.

Mike
On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

  Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty

(boh).

Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't
think
natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

--
John W Reames
jream...@verizon.net
Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

  Hendrik and fay wrote:

These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites


that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.
This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz
http://www.buymbparts.com/E-**Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description doesn't


say PBR.


The rest are names I've never heard of.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the threading on 
the driver front caliper is too shallow to fit the brake line.

Looks like this morning just got shot in the foot.

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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Rusty Cullens
For what car, who did you buy them from?


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Subject: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the threading
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Looks like this morning just got shot in the foot.

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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
1977 240D, bought from brakewarehouse.com

Darren Marshall
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On May 11, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote:

 For what car, who did you buy them from?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Darren
 Marshall
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:01 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper
 
 Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the threading
 on the driver front caliper is too shallow to fit the brake line.
 
 Looks like this morning just got shot in the foot.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
and were shipped from NuGeon in Stockton, CA

Darren Marshall
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http://bowtruss.com

On May 11, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote:

 For what car, who did you buy them from?
 
 
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 Marshall
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:01 PM
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 Subject: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper
 
 Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the threading
 on the driver front caliper is too shallow to fit the brake line.
 
 Looks like this morning just got shot in the foot.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Rusty Cullens
All W123 front calipers are the same. The only thing is they used Bendix or
ATE. As long as you change both it doesn't matter. They took different brake
hoses depending on the VIN but it didn't impact the calipers. Are there any
numbers on the caliper or box? Perhaps it was just picked wrong or there is
the chance that the wrong one was put in the right box. What is your
complete VIN?



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Marshall
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:01 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the threading
on the driver front caliper is too shallow to fit the brake line.

Looks like this morning just got shot in the foot.

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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-11 Thread Brian Toscano
There is nothing wrong with PBR.

When you see hipsters drinking Milwaukee's Best then start questioning
things.  Milwaukee's Best ain't bad if its ICE cold.



On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Above Colt 45?

 --R


 On 5/11/13 11:35 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

 The first largest is the entire population of the city of Detroit.

 Mike
 On May 11, 2013 11:11 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

  The second or third largest purveyor of PBR in the country is a little
 dump in Chucktown called The Recovery Room which is across the road
 from
 the medical university.  Talk about a contradiction.

 --R


 On 5/10/13 7:55 PM, Darren Marshall wrote:

  PBR's marketing firm would call them influencers


 Darren Marshall
 http://doejo.com
 http://bowtruss.com

 On May 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
 constructivity.net 
 richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

   It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which

 was pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also
 can
 give you a wicked headache.

 I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full
 getup is carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to
 tell him what a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.

 --(notPB)R


 On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

  I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good
 after
 a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of
 the
 day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.

 Mike
 On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

   Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty

 (boh).

 Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't
 think
 natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905

 On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

   Hendrik and fay wrote:

 These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites

  that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.
 This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz
 http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/http://www.buymbparts.com/E-**Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
 http:**//www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/**Brakes/Brake-Pads/http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
 
 The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description
 doesn't

  say PBR.

  The rest are names I've never heard of.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Tim Crone
On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

For intermittent use, electric makes a lot of sense.  Maintenance is
easier, safety is easier (pull the plug), much lighter to carry and wield.
I've used as much as 200' of 12 gauge extension cord, though it is
important to check the manual how far you can go.

Anyway, if you can't you can't, I just wanted to point out that there are
several real advantages to electric saws.

Best,
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
Well that's the thing, the passenger side fit like a glove. Driver side brake 
line just won't tighten all the way.

VIN is 123123-12-025776

There are numbers on the caliper which  ya want?

Darren Marshall
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On May 11, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote:

 All W123 front calipers are the same. The only thing is they used Bendix or
 ATE. As long as you change both it doesn't matter. They took different brake
 hoses depending on the VIN but it didn't impact the calipers. Are there any
 numbers on the caliper or box? Perhaps it was just picked wrong or there is
 the chance that the wrong one was put in the right box. What is your
 complete VIN?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Darren
 Marshall
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:01 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper
 
 Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the threading
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Re: [MBZ] the missing

2013-05-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Just go to Arizona and do some peyote with the natives. Closer and less 
expensive.

Dan who worked for the Hopi Nation a couple of times

On May 11, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well if we're going hippie...
 
 And you're up for pushing the limits on convention and have a totally open 
 mind. A trip to Peru, and a night on Ayahuasca could do wonders. I have known 
 several people (including myself) who have come back from Ayahuasca... 
 changed :) many stories of remission and cures around the net. 
 
 Activated Charcoal is also something that you could regularly work into your 
 diet to better absorb and pass toxins.
 
 Hope you champion that shit and can continue to do things you love!
 
 Darren Marshall
 http://doejo.com
 http://bowtruss.com
 
 On May 11, 2013, at 7:17 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Amen!
 
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 Home: +14106646986
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 On May 10, 2013, at 20:33, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Roger, glad to see you posting again and still among the living!
 
 I'll be praying for your health to return and for your surgeons to be 
 skilled.  
 
 This list is not the same without you.
 -- 
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 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON
I now use an electric chain saw for little stuff (some probably bigger 
than I should).  People pass in the street and see me out in the yard with 
my walker and a chain saw and get all excited.  Occasionally somebody with 
stop, get out and come up to me asking with eyes wide, Are you OK?  so far 
I've  been able to answer, Yes, I'm OK, I know what I'm doing, and I can 
handle it.  What I'd like to say is, Just leave me the hell alone.  (I 
have trouble walking without aid only - if I can get to it, I can do it.)


Coupla days ago, I had pulled front wheels of my JD garden tractor/mower up 
onto edge of a small terrace in front yard with rear wheels still on lower 
level in order to elevate mower deck so I could reach under it to free a 
branch caught under it.  'Left engine off, tranny in gear and brakes locked 
and dismounted; 'was lying down beside the mower and reaching up under the 
deck when I heard some commotion behind me; 'raised up and looked around to 
find two excited women running across yard toward me, one of 'em calling 
911.  I quickly told them, I'm OK - just trying to clear an obstruction 
under the deck - I'm OK, but thank you for your concern.  You did the right 
thing, and don't hesitate to do it again, if you think somebody is in 
trouble.  Thank you.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us

To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws



On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:


Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.


For intermittent use, electric makes a lot of sense.  Maintenance is
easier, safety is easier (pull the plug), much lighter to carry and wield.
I've used as much as 200' of 12 gauge extension cord, though it is
important to check the manual how far you can go.

Anyway, if you can't you can't, I just wanted to point out that there are
several real advantages to electric saws.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] (buymbparts)....facebook.

2013-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas

Yes, so you can't taste it

--R (who does like a cold Rock n' Roller in the summer heat)


On 5/11/13 12:18 PM, Brian Toscano wrote:

There is nothing wrong with PBR.

When you see hipsters drinking Milwaukee's Best then start questioning
things.  Milwaukee's Best ain't bad if its ICE cold.



On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Above Colt 45?

--R


On 5/11/13 11:35 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:


The first largest is the entire population of the city of Detroit.

Mike
On May 11, 2013 11:11 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

  The second or third largest purveyor of PBR in the country is a little

dump in Chucktown called The Recovery Room which is across the road
from
the medical university.  Talk about a contradiction.

--R


On 5/10/13 7:55 PM, Darren Marshall wrote:

  PBR's marketing firm would call them influencers


Darren Marshall
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On May 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**
constructivity.net 
richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

   It's really funny all the hipsters these days are drinking PBR, which


was pissbeer back when I got introduced to it, and it still is.  Also
can
give you a wicked headache.

I was at the grocery a coupla weeks ago and this hipster in the full
getup is carrying a 12 of PBR out of the store, and I was so tempted to
tell him what a dumbass he was, but figured it wouldn't matter.

--(notPB)R


On 5/10/13 10:58 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

  I don't care much for beer but a Natty light sure used to taste good

after
a hot and sticky Alabama work day.  Guess they tasted good any time of
the
day in AL.  Must have been the company I kept.

Mike
On May 10, 2013 5:40 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

   Aah PBR.. Right down there with red white and blue and perhaps natty


(boh).

Oh wait, we aren't typing about cheap American beer... (Btw I don't
think
natty boh tastes any better in Baltimore)

--
John W Reames
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Mobile: +14437915905

On May 9, 2013, at 20:02, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

   Hendrik and fay wrote:


These days http://www.buymbparts.com/ is another one of those sites

  that wants to sell bling instead of quality parts.

This is what came up looking for an 89 Benz
http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/http://www.buymbparts.com/E-**Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
http:**//www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/**Brakes/Brake-Pads/http://www.buymbparts.com/E-Class/Brakes/Brake-Pads/
The $110 pads show a picture of a PBR box, but the description
doesn't

  say PBR.

  The rest are names I've never heard of.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Michael Canfield
Attaboy Wilton!

Mike
On May 11, 2013 12:50 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I now use an electric chain saw for little stuff (some probably bigger
 than I should).  People pass in the street and see me out in the yard with
 my walker and a chain saw and get all excited.  Occasionally somebody
 with stop, get out and come up to me asking with eyes wide, Are you OK?
  so far I've  been able to answer, Yes, I'm OK, I know what I'm doing, and
 I can handle it.  What I'd like to say is, Just leave me the hell alone.
  (I have trouble walking without aid only - if I can get to it, I can do
 it.)

 Coupla days ago, I had pulled front wheels of my JD garden tractor/mower
 up onto edge of a small terrace in front yard with rear wheels still on
 lower level in order to elevate mower deck so I could reach under it to
 free a branch caught under it.  'Left engine off, tranny in gear and brakes
 locked and dismounted; 'was lying down beside the mower and reaching up
 under the deck when I heard some commotion behind me; 'raised up and looked
 around to find two excited women running across yard toward me, one of
 'em calling 911.  I quickly told them, I'm OK - just trying to clear an
 obstruction under the deck - I'm OK, but thank you for your concern.  You
 did the right thing, and don't hesitate to do it again, if you think
 somebody is in trouble.  Thank you.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws


  On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:


 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.


 For intermittent use, electric makes a lot of sense.  Maintenance is
 easier, safety is easier (pull the plug), much lighter to carry and wield.
 I've used as much as 200' of 12 gauge extension cord, though it is
 important to check the manual how far you can go.

 Anyway, if you can't you can't, I just wanted to point out that there are
 several real advantages to electric saws.

 Best,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread David Bruckmann
What's too shallow mean? There's typically quite a bit of fitting left 
exposed, but that doesn't matter. 

Or are you saying the line won't fit?

D. 

On 2013-05-11, at 9:18, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

 From: Darren Marshall
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper
 
 Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the threading on 
 the driver front caliper is too shallow to fit the brake line.
 
 Looks like this morning just got shot in the foot.
 
 Darren Marshall

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[MBZ] OT - another tale

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON

'Not a Sondy Tale, but another tale.

Baby Wilton
By Wilton Strickland in '08 (last 2 paragraphs in '13)

No, this is not about me, nor about things I've done.  It's about a special 
little boy who suddenly came into our lives in Feb 2006.


At about eight A. M. on Tuesday, February 7, '06, I was reading one of the 
state's major newspapers, the Raleigh News and Observer, while eating 
breakfast.  I came across a short story about a newborn baby boy found in 
the back of a pickup truck in Nash County, near where my wife, Alice, and I 
grew up, about 45 miles north of here at about 10 AM on the sub-freezing 
previous morning.  The baby was still wet with amniotic fluid, had his 
umbilical cord tied in a knot and was wrapped in only a towel and a small 
blanket.  His fingers and toes had minor frostbite, but he seemed to be 
otherwise in good health.  Before I finished reading the second sentence, I 
knew that the little boy was going to be part of our family.  Alice's niece, 
Marcy, has been a foster mother for several years and had told the Nash 
County Social Services ladies that she wanted to adopt a baby if one came 
available.  I had no doubt that the baby would become our nephew.


For the next several days, I could think of nothing but that helpless little 
baby, abandoned, crying, hungry and freezing in the back of that truck.  I 
didn't mention it to anyone else, not even Alice - I didn't want to mess it 
up.  Finally, at about 6 P. M. on Friday, the phone rang.  I answered, and 
Alice's brother, the niece's father, said to me, We have a new baby.  I 
wanted to say, Yes, I know.  Not wanting to sound too smug, though, I 
hesitated, and he immediately went on to say, And they've named him 
Wilton.  Now, I was crying and was unable to speak for a couple of 
minutes.  The baby had been checked at two hospitals, and by Thursday 
morning, had been given a clean bill of health and released to Alice's 
niece.


On Sunday afternoon, when I first saw him, the tips of his fingers and toes 
were still red from the frostbite but had no significant damage.  Though 
very small at about 6½ pounds and wearing a diaper much smaller than my 
hand, he looked very healthy.  As he lay quiet, warm and comfortable in my 
arms, he looked directly into my eyes, and seemed to understand and to 
listen intently while I told him how much we will love him and how proud and 
lucky we are to have him in our family.


Many have said he is a very lucky little boy.  I even said that IF I were to 
play the lottery, I'd want HIM to pick my numbers.  I also said that he has 
won a prize worth far more than any Powerball Lottery.  He has won a 
chance to get a good education, to become an outstanding citizen and to 
learn from his family to have a strong sense of integrity - the ability to 
do what is right when nobody else is watching.  Most importantly, though, he 
has a family who loves him.


There seems, though, to have been more than mere luck that brought him to 
us.  For example, what led the mother, or whoever left him in the cargo bed 
of that truck to turn down THAT road and turn into THAT driveway and into 
THAT parking lot and leave him in THAT truck?  What compelled the owner of 
the truck to go out to the truck at midmorning during duty hours, something 
he had never done before and was even forbidden by his employer to do?  What 
made him feel that there was enough of a problem at his truck to risk being 
fired to check it?  Then, after at first seeing nothing wrong at the truck 
and heading back inside, what made him hesitate and listen, only then to 
hear the baby crying?  A little while longer in the 25-degree air and the 
baby would have died of hypothermia.  Additionally, what made me so certain 
so quickly that he would be in OUR family?  Baby Wilton surely must have had 
a guardian Angel that morning.


Most people who have heard about the abandoned baby, immediately think he is 
of Hispanic descent because of the many Hispanic farm workers in the area 
where he was found.  That would make not difference at all with us, of 
course, but he appears to be of Northern European descent, though, with very 
fair skin, blue eyes and golden blonde hair, coincidentally, much like 
Alice, her brother and niece.  I think the mother was traveling on I-95, 
which has an access only a mile or so from the point where the baby was 
found, and pulled off to leave the baby before continuing the trip.  We'll 
likely never know, of course.


The county Social Services Department immediately began to get calls from 
all across the country from people wanting to adopt the baby.  One foolish 
caller from Chicago even said he wanted to adopt the baby for tax 
purposes.  Baby Wilton, though, never left the loving care of his 
new-found family.  With full approval of the Social Services, law 
enforcement and judicial authorities, our niece began adoption proceedings 
immediately.  At the hearings, almost all of the parties involved - 

Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football

2013-05-11 Thread Gerry Archer



It is.  Here is a pretty good description of it and its history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_American_football

Gerry


From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com


Actually I was going to say them same thing about gridiron, it's sort of 
based on rugby, right?


Hendrik
who is about to go and watch Aussie Rules

On 10/05/13 21:59, Gerry Archer wrote:
I get the impression that Aussies don't spend as much time worrying 
about current events as Americans seem to do, but they take their 
sports very seriously.


I watched Australian Rules football back in the '80s when it was on PBS.
The players kick the ball, run with it, pass it, tackle each other, 
etc.; all in sort of a haphazard way.

Meant to try and find the rules, but got busy and never did.
Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] OT - another tale

2013-05-11 Thread Craig
On Sat, 11 May 2013 15:30:03 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Not a Sondy Tale, but another tale.
 
 Baby Wilton
 By Wilton Strickland in '08 (last 2 paragraphs in '13)
 
  No, this is not about me, nor about things I've done.  It's about a
 special little boy who suddenly came into our lives in Feb 2006.

Wonderful! Thank you for sharing!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Scott Ritchey

Supplemental:  I have about 50 acres around my house and it's mostly wooded.
I have a cheap Poulan Pro 16 inch chain say that I use for small jobs, like
removing fallen trees that obstruct my dirt trails. I also used a borrowed
Poulan Wild Thing 18 inch saw that worked well.  I moved here (NC) from FL
where chain saws were always needed post-hurricane if you wanted to get out
of your neighborhood or sometimes even out of your driveway. So a sharp and
easy-starting chain saw has been a requirement in my world for decades.  If
I used one daily I would have gone with a higher-end model but I only need
to use mine every couple months so I went with a consumer-grade product.
Just a guess, but I think proper maintenance will effect chain saw longevity
more than brand.

The safety warnings from various other posters are deadly serious.  I have
at least two acquaintances who suffered chain saw injuries and it wasn't
pretty.  Don't overestimate your capability.  Professional tree services are
exceedingly cheap compared to emergency rooms and lost income.

I have had very good luck with my cheap chain saws but even the most
expensive Stihl will give you problems if you run it on stale gas, let old
gas gum up the carb, or fail to keep the gas and oil homogenized.  Also, the
chain will get dull with use so don't hesitate to sharpen it with a file.  I
have a guide that clips to the file to help maintain the right depth and
angle.  It's pretty easy to keep the chain sharp and a dull chain is also
dangerous.  A dull chain (or one without chain oil) will overheat and that's
when they break (serious hazard).  As you cut, the sawdust should come out
as chunks not dust; if not your chain is dull.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Ritchey
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:26 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws


Sounds like any 16-18 inch consumer-grade chainsaw will fit your need.
You'll find several types at Walmart, Lowes, etc.  Pro-grade saws will cost
2x-3x the price of the homeowner stuff.  Whatever you get: (1) don't store
it with fuel in the tank (or you'll need to replace the carb), (2) don't use
old fuel; store your fuel-oil mix in a small can for that reason, (3)
agitate the fuel can before pouring and agitate the saw before using, and
(5) buy a file (in the correct size) to sharpen the chain.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan
Streib
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:25 PM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?

Allan
-- 
Allan Streib

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I have a sharpener I bought from Sears ages ago, a Dremel with a little 
attachment to hold a proper-sized grinding stone (whatever diameter for 
your chain, about 1.5in long) at the proper place and with markings for 
the proper angle.  You can do a chain in just a few minutes with it.  
Will make a huge difference in your cutting, and much safer too.


--R


On 5/11/13 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

Also, the
chain will get dull with use so don't hesitate to sharpen it with a file.  I
have a guide that clips to the file to help maintain the right depth and
angle.  It's pretty easy to keep the chain sharp and a dull chain is also
dangerous.  A dull chain (or one without chain oil) will overheat and that's
when they break (serious hazard).  As you cut, the sawdust should come out
as chunks not dust; if not your chain is dull.



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Re: [MBZ] CNG - was: Crown Vic?

2013-05-11 Thread Scott Ritchey

Thoughts:  BTU per $$ may be a better metric than BTU per pound.  CNG is
lighter than air (unlike propane) so it is generally safer. Particularly in
things like boats and homes with basements where a heavy gas can collect.
On the flip side, CNG must be stored at 3-4K PSI compared to 200 psi for LP
(propane).  There are significant safety and refueling issues associated
with storing a gas at this pressure (similar to a SCUBA tank, but
flammable.) On the plus side, CNG is real easy to atomize.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 11:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] CNG - was: Crown Vic?

If you do a true apples to apples comparison of Diesel fuel and CNG fuel,
which would include all the special handling equipment and engine changes
necessary to actually run CNG, the BTU yield per pound of material is still
much lower for CNG than Diesel.

Internal combustion engines are heat engines.. you have to make heat to get
power. If the fuel used simply does not possess the density of BTU's per
unit of fuel, it takes more of that fuel to make the equivalent useful
horse power.

CNG is the poster child for clean burning and for government subsidy
but not for efficiency per pound of energy yield.  The argument can be made
that without government subsidy keeping the GNG industry pumped up, no one
would bother with it.

Numerous transit companies have ordered and used CNG buses as part of their
fleet mix. In every case, as soon as the government money which supported
them ran out.. they were retired and sold off for pennies on the dollar..

Grant...
Who presently owns 3 retired diesel buses and has owned more than 10 in the
past 10 years and has had a good look at CNG buses at auctions.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:48:20 -0400
 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  I think that a CNG vehicle has a fuel cost per mile about half the
  equivalent gasoline powered vehicle.  CNG is the new diesel!

 No.  It is not a compression ignition.

 And CNG is more volatile than gasoline.

 And has to be in a _pressurized_ storage tank.

 But if there isn't a leak, long term storage potential is good.

 --   Philip, who chooses diesel _not_ because of price.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Scott Ritchey

Years ago, I had a sharpener with a guide and grinding stone that chucked in
a drill.  It wasn't that great because the grinding stone wore to the point
it was too small in diameter to sharpen properly.  It was also slow to use
and required 110v for the drill (pre cordless days).

I now use a file and a guide like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Oregon-Chain-File-Guide-25892/dp/B4RA76

This tool is cheaper, faster, requires no AC power, and does a great job.
Just wear work gloves and it only takes a few strokes (like 4-10, same on
each tooth) to make a chain cut like new.  I typically do all the teeth
facing one way first and then all the ones facing the other way.  The only
trick is keeping track of which teeth are already done so you don't miss
any or double sharpen any.

You need to buy the specific model file and guide (diameter and angle) for
your particular chain.  If you watch the pros work, the cut guy in the
bucket will lower his saw several times during the job for one of the ground
guys to sharpen.  The guys I hired just used a file (no guide) I guess they
were experienced enough they don't need a guide.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

I have a sharpener I bought from Sears ages ago, a Dremel with a little 
attachment to hold a proper-sized grinding stone (whatever diameter for 
your chain, about 1.5in long) at the proper place and with markings for 
the proper angle.  You can do a chain in just a few minutes with it.  
Will make a huge difference in your cutting, and much safer too.

--R


On 5/11/13 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
 Also, the
 chain will get dull with use so don't hesitate to sharpen it with a file.
I
 have a guide that clips to the file to help maintain the right depth and
 angle.  It's pretty easy to keep the chain sharp and a dull chain is also
 dangerous.  A dull chain (or one without chain oil) will overheat and
that's
 when they break (serious hazard).  As you cut, the sawdust should come
out
 as chunks not dust; if not your chain is dull.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 10, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
 lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.



Stihl Farm boss

http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/farm-and-ranch-saws/ms290/

Husqvarna Rancher

http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/chainsaws/455-rancher/

Echo CS-450

http://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Chain-Saws/CS-450

The Husky can be purchased at Lowes. The other saws need to be sourced from a 
local or online dealer. You will not be happy with a lesser saw if you cut more 
than 10 minutes at a time. I am unsure of your age, but I am in my fifties and 
the vibration attenuation alone provided by my Stihl is worth every dime. I 
cannot afford the pins and needles of carpel tunnel at this time in my life. 

Also of note, the chains these saws are equipped with are fine for those that 
are unaccustomed to handling a chainsaw, but are unacceptable for any real 
woodcutting. I imagine they are mandated by government regulations to protect 
people from themselves, and the company's from predatory attorneys (present 
company excepted). You want pro chain like this. 

http://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/2013Catalog.htm


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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread David Kristin Gilmore

At 09:25 PM 5/10/2013, Allan wrote:

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?


I didn't know chain saws could be rented.  That sounds like a 
good way to learn about what you might want.  Do wear ear muffs and 
safety chaps.  The rental people probably provide them with the saw.


 For the last 32 years I have been using a chain saw a couple 
times a week.  Mostly cutting up trees that have fallen out into my 
fields or across farm roads.  I burn 3 or 4 cords to heat my house 
and sell another 6 or 8 to long term customers.  The Stihl saws have 
been the best.  For the last 10-15 years I have settled on a pair of 
Stihl 026s with 16 bars and Oregon chisel chain I buy in 100' reels 
from baileysonline.com.  I make the loops with a hand tool.  At the 
end of the day I clamp the saw in a vice and give each tooth a pass 
or two with a file.  Every fifth or so sharpening I measure each 
tooth with a caliper to make sure they are staying the same length 
and I measure each raker with a gauge.


 You may not go into it as heavy as I have but you probably will 
do more than you think.  For example your neighbors may become very 
friendly.  So you might want to think in terms of eventually getting 
a quality saw.  They are so much more satisfying to use than the 
homeowner ones.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
No matter how long I tried to tighten the line, it gets to certain level of
tension, and just won't tighten to seal, as if the threading on the caliper
is stripped.

Darren
312-208-4328


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM, David Bruckmann 
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

 What's too shallow mean? There's typically quite a bit of fitting left
 exposed, but that doesn't matter.

 Or are you saying the line won't fit?

 D.

 On 2013-05-11, at 9:18, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

  From: Darren Marshall
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper
 
  Was putting NuGeon remanufactured calipers this morning, and the
 threading on the driver front caliper is too shallow to fit the brake line.
 
  Looks like this morning just got shot in the foot.
 
  Darren Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 11, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:

 No matter how long I tried to tighten the line, it gets to certain level of
 tension, and just won't tighten to seal, as if the threading on the caliper
 is stripped.


Actually, it is quite possible they are stripped. The last few rebuilds I have 
gotten from Advance I have gotten for domestic vehicles have had to had the 
threads chased on them, as they were buggered up. 

Try Trent for parts next time. He is getting better at it. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
Agreed

Darren
312-208-4328


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On May 11, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  No matter how long I tried to tighten the line, it gets to certain level
 of
  tension, and just won't tighten to seal, as if the threading on the
 caliper
  is stripped.


 Actually, it is quite possible they are stripped. The last few rebuilds I
 have gotten from Advance I have gotten for domestic vehicles have had to
 had the threads chased on them, as they were buggered up.

 Try Trent for parts next time. He is getting better at it.

 Rick
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[MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Hawkins Java

Folks

I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress  
printing press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee  
Island, spent the night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered  
the machine. THen i turned around and drove directly back to Athens.  
This was about 850 miles, all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed  
was mostly indicated 60 to 70 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most  
all the trip. I didn't even use any oil. The car performed flawlessly  
as it should!


It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the  
middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably  
saw 15 but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass  
was tall enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the  
recent rains. After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for  
miles going in either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost  
no one for long stretches of time.


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
Thanks Rick, I'm going through the post, Don't understand why one side fit
like a glove and the other doesn't. Darren, you would have thought you
would have noticed stripped threads taking the old line off.
I see my mentor has responded, If I can be of any help, give me a call.


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On May 11, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  No matter how long I tried to tighten the line, it gets to certain level
 of
  tension, and just won't tighten to seal, as if the threading on the
 caliper
  is stripped.


 Actually, it is quite possible they are stripped. The last few rebuilds I
 have gotten from Advance I have gotten for domestic vehicles have had to
 had the threads chased on them, as they were buggered up.

 Try Trent for parts next time. He is getting better at it.

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
The only plus you have about Georgia deer is, they are not corn fed 200+
pounders like we have up here in the north. They can do alot of damge if
you hit one driving... I know from experiance...

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:

 Folks

 I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress
 printing press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee Island,
 spent the night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered the machine.
 THen i turned around and drove directly back to Athens. This was about 850
 miles, all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed was mostly indicated 60
 to 70 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most all the trip. I didn't even
 use any oil. The car performed flawlessly as it should!

 It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the
 middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably saw 15
 but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass was tall
 enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the recent rains.
 After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for miles going in
 either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost no one for long
 stretches of time.

 thanks,

 xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON
Lucky not to hit a deer.  #1 son hit a deer and totaled his Toyota bout 3 
weeks ago.


Wilton

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 300TD travel



Folks

I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress 
printing press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee  Island, 
spent the night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered  the machine. 
THen i turned around and drove directly back to Athens.  This was about 
850 miles, all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed  was mostly 
indicated 60 to 70 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most  all the trip. I 
didn't even use any oil. The car performed flawlessly  as it should!


It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the 
middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably  saw 
15 but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass  was 
tall enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the  recent 
rains. After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for  miles going 
in either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost  no one for 
long stretches of time.


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread John Reames
You can probably get good used chains cheap from the rental places too...

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On May 11, 2013, at 19:52, David  Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com 
wrote:

 At 09:25 PM 5/10/2013, Allan wrote:
 I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
 keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
 much.
 
 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.
 
 Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
 lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
 probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
 just rent one as needed?
 
I didn't know chain saws could be rented.  That sounds like a good way to 
 learn about what you might want.  Do wear ear muffs and safety chaps.  The 
 rental people probably provide them with the saw.
 
 For the last 32 years I have been using a chain saw a couple times a 
 week.  Mostly cutting up trees that have fallen out into my fields or across 
 farm roads.  I burn 3 or 4 cords to heat my house and sell another 6 or 8 to 
 long term customers.  The Stihl saws have been the best.  For the last 10-15 
 years I have settled on a pair of Stihl 026s with 16 bars and Oregon chisel 
 chain I buy in 100' reels from baileysonline.com.  I make the loops with a 
 hand tool.  At the end of the day I clamp the saw in a vice and give each 
 tooth a pass or two with a file.  Every fifth or so sharpening I measure each 
 tooth with a caliper to make sure they are staying the same length and I 
 measure each raker with a gauge.
 
 You may not go into it as heavy as I have but you probably will do more 
 than you think.  For example your neighbors may become very friendly.  So you 
 might want to think in terms of eventually getting a quality saw.  They are 
 so much more satisfying to use than the homeowner ones.
 
 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
 
 Gardening is all about the urge for excellence. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
Good advice, I like my Craftsman 18 inch. As said I drain the fuel out
during the winter and replace with a little sea foam, I'll crank it over to
get the fuel out of the lines and the sea foam in them ( alot of people do
the same with sta-bil, i just prefer the sea foam). as to renting, a chain
saw is one of those tings we have in the garage we may use once or twice a
year, along with the roto-tiller, that we are glad to have when we need it,
I've had mine for 7 years and maybe used it a dozen times, But I know it's
there...

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 Sounds like any 16-18 inch consumer-grade chainsaw will fit your need.
 You'll find several types at Walmart, Lowes, etc.  Pro-grade saws will cost
 2x-3x the price of the homeowner stuff.  Whatever you get: (1) don't store
 it with fuel in the tank (or you'll need to replace the carb), (2) don't
 use
 old fuel; store your fuel-oil mix in a small can for that reason, (3)
 agitate the fuel can before pouring and agitate the saw before using, and
 (5) buy a file (in the correct size) to sharpen the chain.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan
 Streib
 Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:25 PM
 To: Mercedes List
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

  I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
 keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
 much.

 Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

 Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
 lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
 probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
 just rent one as needed?

 Allan
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[MBZ] Rick Simpson Oil

2013-05-11 Thread Mountain Man
Thanks, whomever gave the search criteria.
There are many videos at youtube about this stuff, but it is essentially
unobtainium unless you have source for bud.  The claims are awesome, but it
seems the stuff does not exist in USA.  I cannot find purchase price nor
availability, even if american cancer society provides endorsement - too
bad?

Okay, so let's go even deeper in to hippie...
search youtube for defcad.com
Wy awesome conceptually.
mao
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Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
When did I rave about football, it is my favorite sport, but I don't
remember raving about it. I do have to say the rules seem allot easier to
understand than Rugby, It seams somebody is always off sides, throwing the
ball or getting tackled. And who ever heard of kicking the ball if it's not
the forth down, or for the extra points?

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I was going to say them same thing about gridiron, it's sort of
 based on rugby, right?

 Hendrik
 who is about to go and watch Aussie Rules

 On 10/05/13 21:59, Gerry Archer wrote:

 I get the impression that Aussies don't spend as much time worrying about
 current events as Americans seem to do, but they take their sports very
 seriously.

 I watched Australian Rules football back in the '80s when it was on PBS.
 The players kick the ball, run with it, pass it, tackle each other, etc.;
 all in sort of a haphazard way.
 Meant to try and find the rules, but got busy and never did.
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Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON

Sometimes, we get mixed up about who said what.  ;)
'Like a big family - all talking at once about lotsa stuff often unrelated 
to what started the thread.


Wilton

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When did I rave about football, it is my favorite sport, but I don't
remember raving about it. I do have to say the rules seem allot easier to
understand than Rugby, It seams somebody is always off sides, throwing the
ball or getting tackled. And who ever heard of kicking the ball if it's 
not

the forth down, or for the extra points?

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Actually I was going to say them same thing about gridiron, it's sort of
based on rugby, right?

Hendrik
who is about to go and watch Aussie Rules

On 10/05/13 21:59, Gerry Archer wrote:

I get the impression that Aussies don't spend as much time worrying 
about

current events as Americans seem to do, but they take their sports very
seriously.

I watched Australian Rules football back in the '80s when it was on PBS.
The players kick the ball, run with it, pass it, tackle each other, 
etc.;

all in sort of a haphazard way.
Meant to try and find the rules, but got busy and never did.
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Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
Hey, we can talk about football anytime, Just warning everyone, I am a
diehard 'Packer' fan. And I think are friend down under will have a hard
time keeping up with this american sport, no offense Hendrick...



On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Sometimes, we get mixed up about who said what.  ;)
 'Like a big family - all talking at once about lotsa stuff often unrelated
 to what started the thread.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Trent Fiorini buymbpa...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football


  When did I rave about football, it is my favorite sport, but I don't
 remember raving about it. I do have to say the rules seem allot easier to
 understand than Rugby, It seams somebody is always off sides, throwing the
 ball or getting tackled. And who ever heard of kicking the ball if it's
 not
 the forth down, or for the extra points?

 On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Actually I was going to say them same thing about gridiron, it's sort of
 based on rugby, right?

 Hendrik
 who is about to go and watch Aussie Rules

 On 10/05/13 21:59, Gerry Archer wrote:

 I get the impression that Aussies don't spend as much time worrying about
 current events as Americans seem to do, but they take their sports very
 seriously.

 I watched Australian Rules football back in the '80s when it was on PBS.
 The players kick the ball, run with it, pass it, tackle each other,
 etc.;
 all in sort of a haphazard way.
 Meant to try and find the rules, but got busy and never did.
 Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Darren Marshall
The stripped threads are actually on the 'new' remanufactured caliper, the 
threads on the line itself are in great shape :/

Will be calling NuGeon first thing Monday... their QC sucks

Here's a pic, 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxqtlxesti6p94g/Photo%20May%2011%2C%208%2007%2038%20PM.png

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 Thanks Rick, I'm going through the post, Don't understand why one side fit
 like a glove and the other doesn't. Darren, you would have thought you
 would have noticed stripped threads taking the old line off.
 I see my mentor has responded, If I can be of any help, give me a call.
 
 
 On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 On May 11, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 No matter how long I tried to tighten the line, it gets to certain level
 of
 tension, and just won't tighten to seal, as if the threading on the
 caliper
 is stripped.
 
 
 Actually, it is quite possible they are stripped. The last few rebuilds I
 have gotten from Advance I have gotten for domestic vehicles have had to
 had the threads chased on them, as they were buggered up.
 
 Try Trent for parts next time. He is getting better at it.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
Well you have a case, they should replace it, I just hope they don't say
you stripped them during installation. or try to charge you a restock fee.
Let us know how it goes.

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.comwrote:

 The stripped threads are actually on the 'new' remanufactured caliper, the
 threads on the line itself are in great shape :/

 Will be calling NuGeon first thing Monday... their QC sucks

 Here's a pic,
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxqtlxesti6p94g/Photo%20May%2011%2C%208%2007%2038%20PM.png

 Darren Marshall
 http://doejo.com
 http://bowtruss.com

  On May 11, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Trent Fiorini buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Rick, I'm going through the post, Don't understand why one side
 fit
  like a glove and the other doesn't. Darren, you would have thought you
  would have noticed stripped threads taking the old line off.
  I see my mentor has responded, If I can be of any help, give me a call.
 
 
  On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On May 11, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  No matter how long I tried to tighten the line, it gets to certain
 level
  of
  tension, and just won't tighten to seal, as if the threading on the
  caliper
  is stripped.
 
 
  Actually, it is quite possible they are stripped. The last few rebuilds
 I
  have gotten from Advance I have gotten for domestic vehicles have had to
  had the threads chased on them, as they were buggered up.
 
  Try Trent for parts next time. He is getting better at it.
 
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
Wilton are the dear in your area big. when i lived in Wilmington, they were
not large at all, almost goat size. A ton of them all over, but smaller.

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:51 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Lucky not to hit a deer.  #1 son hit a deer and totaled his Toyota bout 3
 weeks ago.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com
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 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:34 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] 300TD travel



 Folks

 I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress
 printing press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee  Island,
 spent the night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered  the machine.
 THen i turned around and drove directly back to Athens.  This was about 850
 miles, all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed  was mostly indicated 60
 to 70 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most  all the trip. I didn't even
 use any oil. The car performed flawlessly  as it should!

 It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the
 middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably  saw 15
 but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass  was tall
 enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the  recent rains.
 After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for  miles going in
 either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost  no one for long
 stretches of time.

 thanks,

 xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
I've noticed the prices on new chains are almost as cheap has having them
re-sharpened. I have a retied guy near me that does mine, I think it's his
hobby, he only charges $5.

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 You can probably get good used chains cheap from the rental places too...

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  At 09:25 PM 5/10/2013, Allan wrote:
  I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
  keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
  much.
 
  Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.
 
  Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
  lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
  probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
  just rent one as needed?
 
 I didn't know chain saws could be rented.  That sounds like a good
 way to learn about what you might want.  Do wear ear muffs and safety
 chaps.  The rental people probably provide them with the saw.
 
  For the last 32 years I have been using a chain saw a couple times a
 week.  Mostly cutting up trees that have fallen out into my fields or
 across farm roads.  I burn 3 or 4 cords to heat my house and sell another 6
 or 8 to long term customers.  The Stihl saws have been the best.  For the
 last 10-15 years I have settled on a pair of Stihl 026s with 16 bars and
 Oregon chisel chain I buy in 100' reels from baileysonline.com.  I make
 the loops with a hand tool.  At the end of the day I clamp the saw in a
 vice and give each tooth a pass or two with a file.  Every fifth or so
 sharpening I measure each tooth with a caliper to make sure they are
 staying the same length and I measure each raker with a gauge.
 
  You may not go into it as heavy as I have but you probably will do
 more than you think.  For example your neighbors may become very friendly.
  So you might want to think in terms of eventually getting a quality saw.
  They are so much more satisfying to use than the homeowner ones.
 
  Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
 
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Re: [MBZ] Q2 pkg

2013-05-11 Thread Trent Fiorini
Little lighter on the wallet to wilton. Thanks

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 Rcvd smaller, lighter pkg yesterday, Q2; ATTABOY; thanks.

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Re: [MBZ] Q2 pkg

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON

'Course, that's a big reason I needed just refills.  ;)

Wilton

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Little lighter on the wallet to wilton. Thanks

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Rcvd smaller, lighter pkg yesterday, Q2; ATTABOY; thanks.

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Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON

Don't be surprised, he often seems more American that one would think

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football



Hey, we can talk about football anytime, Just warning everyone, I am a
diehard 'Packer' fan. And I think are friend down under will have a hard
time keeping up with this american sport, no offense Hendrick...



On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Sometimes, we get mixed up about who said what.  ;)
'Like a big family - all talking at once about lotsa stuff often 
unrelated

to what started the thread.

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent raves about football


 When did I rave about football, it is my favorite sport, but I don't
remember raving about it. I do have to say the rules seem allot easier 
to
understand than Rugby, It seams somebody is always off sides, throwing 
the

ball or getting tackled. And who ever heard of kicking the ball if it's
not
the forth down, or for the extra points?

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Actually I was going to say them same thing about gridiron, it's sort 
of

based on rugby, right?

Hendrik
who is about to go and watch Aussie Rules

On 10/05/13 21:59, Gerry Archer wrote:

I get the impression that Aussies don't spend as much time worrying 
about
current events as Americans seem to do, but they take their sports 
very

seriously.

I watched Australian Rules football back in the '80s when it was on 
PBS.

The players kick the ball, run with it, pass it, tackle each other,
etc.;
all in sort of a haphazard way.
Meant to try and find the rules, but got busy and never did.
Gerry




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Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON
Son said his was coupla hundred pounds or more.  I hit one with my '91 
350SDL in '96 that was big enough.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel


Wilton are the dear in your area big. when i lived in Wilmington, they 
were

not large at all, almost goat size. A ton of them all over, but smaller.

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:51 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Lucky not to hit a deer.  #1 son hit a deer and totaled his Toyota bout 3
weeks ago.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 300TD travel



Folks


I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress
printing press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee 
Island,
spent the night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered  the 
machine.
THen i turned around and drove directly back to Athens.  This was about 
850
miles, all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed  was mostly indicated 
60
to 70 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most  all the trip. I didn't 
even

use any oil. The car performed flawlessly  as it should!

It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the
middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably  saw 
15
but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass  was 
tall
enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the  recent 
rains.

After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for  miles going in
either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost  no one for long
stretches of time.

thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 11, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:

 The stripped threads are actually on the 'new' remanufactured caliper, the 
 threads on the line itself are in great shape :/
 
 Will be calling NuGeon first thing Monday... their QC sucks
 
 Here's a pic, 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxqtlxesti6p94g/Photo%20May%2011%2C%208%2007%2038%20PM.png


Yup. That would do it. If your supplier tells you to buzz off, you might be 
able to clean up the threads and make it work. Of course, if you'd ordered from 
Trent, he's almost close enough to complain to in person...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 11, 2013, at 7:56 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:

 You can probably get good used chains cheap from the rental places too...


I'm sure they get flogged harder than a rented mule...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread WILTON

But Trent would just send/exchange a good caliper, wouldn't he?

Wilton

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From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper


On May 11, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com 
wrote:


The stripped threads are actually on the 'new' remanufactured caliper, 
the threads on the line itself are in great shape :/


Will be calling NuGeon first thing Monday... their QC sucks

Here's a pic, 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxqtlxesti6p94g/Photo%20May%2011%2C%208%2007%2038%20PM.png



Yup. That would do it. If your supplier tells you to buzz off, you might 
be able to clean up the threads and make it work. Of course, if you'd 
ordered from Trent, he's almost close enough to complain to in person...


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 11, 2013, at 9:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 But Trent would just send/exchange a good caliper, wouldn't he?


Yes. If you informed him of it. Or complained :-) 

Rick
Who is twice divorced, so is familiar with complaining. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

2013-05-11 Thread Mitch Haley

David  Kristin Gilmore wrote:

I didn't know chain saws could be rented.  That sounds like a good 
way to learn about what you might want.  Do wear ear muffs and safety 
chaps.  The rental people probably provide them with the saw.




Home Depot rented Dolmar/Makita 6400/6401 saws last I knew.
If you could get one of those used saws for a couple of hundred, that would be 
great, but there's a waiting list at my local HD.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] deer in georgia

2013-05-11 Thread Rick Hawkins Java

Our deer are large enough.

I've hit three with my 300td

One was mostly just grill and headlight doors, the next was AC  
condenser and fan and grill, headlights, and some damage to radiator  
as well (I glued it up and used it pressurized for another year) as  
tweaking the lip of the hood and bending the radiator support a bunch  
and bending the fan.


Heavy enough!

Then there was the one last month that busted my driver's side window  
and showered me with glass and busted the mirror glass.


By the way, the double sided tape is holding the replacement glass fine


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

2013-05-11 Thread Scott Ritchey

Most of the deer strikes here (NC piedmont) seem to happen in the fall.  We
live on a country road (50 mph+) and occasionally find a dead deer in the
front yard.  I never actually weighed one but I do use the loader on the
tractor to carry them deep into the woods.  Personally, I use those deer
whistles on my highway cars.  Go ahead and laugh but I've never hit a deer.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel

Son said his was coupla hundred pounds or more.  I hit one with my '91 
350SDL in '96 that was big enough.

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD travel


 Wilton are the dear in your area big. when i lived in Wilmington, they 
 were
 not large at all, almost goat size. A ton of them all over, but smaller.

 On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:51 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Lucky not to hit a deer.  #1 son hit a deer and totaled his Toyota bout 3
 weeks ago.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:34 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] 300TD travel



 Folks

 I left Athens, GA thursday evening, dragging a 1000 lb letterpress
 printing press on a trailer behind my 82 300td. I drove to Tybee 
 Island,
 spent the night then drove to St. Augstine where i delivered  the 
 machine.
 THen i turned around and drove directly back to Athens.  This was about 
 850
 miles, all driven on WVO that i was hauling. Speed  was mostly indicated

 60
 to 70 mph with the AC blowing cold cold most  all the trip. I didn't 
 even
 use any oil. The car performed flawlessly  as it should!

 It's CRAZY how many deer there are on the back roads of Georgia in the
 middle of the night between folkston, ga and athens, ga. I probably  saw

 15
 but there were probably another 30 that i didn't see! THe grass  was 
 tall
 enough to hide a deer on the shoulders of the road after the  recent 
 rains.
 After about midnight, i was often the only vehicle for  miles going in
 either direction. Other than a few trucks, i saw almost  no one for long
 stretches of time.

 thanks,

 xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper

2013-05-11 Thread Buymbparts
Yes he would.

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On May 11, 2013, at 9:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 But Trent would just send/exchange a good caliper, wouldn't he?
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake line threads not fitting caliper
 
 
 On May 11, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The stripped threads are actually on the 'new' remanufactured caliper, the 
 threads on the line itself are in great shape :/
 
 Will be calling NuGeon first thing Monday... their QC sucks
 
 Here's a pic, 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxqtlxesti6p94g/Photo%20May%2011%2C%208%2007%2038%20PM.png
 
 
 Yup. That would do it. If your supplier tells you to buzz off, you might be 
 able to clean up the threads and make it work. Of course, if you'd ordered 
 from Trent, he's almost close enough to complain to in person...
 
 Rick
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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