Re: [MBZ] Nice S350D on eBay
Chris James wrote: A 1994 Mercedes-Benz S350D I found on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/321146781394 Im open to driving anywhere in the US if you cover expenses Nice color combo additional options include front heated seats ASD! Shame about the phone mount, but that's fixable. Wish I had the cash Wonder how much cash Curt has? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Or will there always be some out there, like Wilton's 350SDL, that just don't show the symptoms and will always be an unknown quantity? I thought Wilton's 350 had a valve job, milled head, and new head gasket? Or is that Walt Lasher? No, I think Walt has a crate engine. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Have a 01 New Beetle 1.9L TDI. Can't hear the turbo. TB replacement ran ~ $ 800. It included water pump,thermostat. serpentine belt and tensioner idlers. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Rats, more research seems to indicate its a failing turbo, sounds just like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B68ANvEma4U Looks like a new replacement is $600+, used more like $300. The car was advertised at $3500, I got him down to $3000. I figure all the other issues its got, together, come to around $700 which includes the timing belt and a replacement radio. I wonder if telling him the turbo whine is real bad will make a difference? -Curt --- On Sat, 6/22/13, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Any TDI folks here? To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, June 22, 2013, 2:10 PM Anybody here got any experience with a Jetta TDI? I went to look at a '98 today, 177,xxx miles. Its got a bunch of little issues but seems fundamentally sound. The only thing I wondered about is a bit of turbo whine when you really get into it. I didn't spend enough time looking at the intake plumbing but the turbo seems to definitely whistle and I'm a little nervous that means a bad turbo. On the bad side the guy has a folder full of records that doesn't include a timing belt so I'd definitely be doing that immediately. I watched a Youtube video of the process and it looks pretty easy, certainly easier than a headgasket on a 240D. It also needs the parking brake sorted, the front turn signals don't work and the high beam switch doesn't stay on. Like I said, nothing too major. On the plus it has ICE COLD AC. ;) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice S350D on eBay
Wonder what model year it is. On Jun 23, 2013 6:47 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Chris James wrote: A 1994 Mercedes-Benz S350D I found on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/321146781394http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/321146781394 Im open to driving anywhere in the US if you cover expenses Nice color combo additional options include front heated seats ASD! Shame about the phone mount, but that's fixable. Wish I had the cash Wonder how much cash Curt has? __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] not mine 300td
Not for me. I only have blue interiors. Btw, if anyone needs decent 123 door panels let me know offlist. Palomino and blue plus some v nice rear panels for a 300td wagon. On Jun 22, 2013 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: looks like a deal http://atlanta.craigslist.org/**nat/pts/3821750941.htmlhttp://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/pts/3821750941.html A 1985 TD parts car, running, with an extra 1985 TD engine and transmission, for $850? Andrew could have used that a while back. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MPG
I sold the R26 in 1967.,, On Jun 22, 2013 10:34 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Suzuki DR650it's the w123 of bikes with a touch of G-wagen blended in. Mike On Jun 21, 2013 9:09 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: we've been looking at another car for when the wifes econobox finally disintegrates (pushing 300K on her Corolla now!) and i'm seriously considering trying to find a nice W126 with another 617 in it. as for what to do when my aging R1150GS Adv finally croaks, i have no idea; the only other thing that really interests me is a big KTM, and i'm probably not going to be able to get one of those before they go all hypertechy with the new liter-plus version. cheers! e On 19/Jun/13 12:39, Dieselhead wrote: Yes, they knew what they were doing back then. Even in the 50 and 60s they did well with the technology of the day, and still were advanced for the day. Unfortunately the bowties took over about 1987 and the old guard engineers retired or were forced into a box. Other than safety, I don't see any appeal of a newish MB over deetriot iron or riceburners. In fact, it is sad to say, but most camries are more aesthetically pleasant than ~ 2010+ MBs. I can say the same for BMW motorsickles too. /2 and earlier, /5, /6 and even /7 look nice. the current crop look like a riceburner, except for the ones with jugs hanging out look like riceburners with jugs. Even the early K series could be distinguished on the road as a BMW. All reasons I like 123 240Ds and my /5. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice S350D on eBay
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 00:13:06 -0400 Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: A 1994 Mercedes-Benz S350D I found on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/321146781394 Im open to driving anywhere in the US if you cover expenses Nice color combo additional options include front heated seats ASD! Shame about the phone mount, but that's fixable. Wish I had the cash Is this a rod bender? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] not mine 300td
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Not for me. I only have blue interiors. But when you wanted a 1985 wagon drivetrain, would you have paid $850 for two of them? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice S350D on eBay
Craig wrote: Is this a rod bender? Depends on how original it is. If you could get the data sheet for it and compare the engine number, or get the MBUSA service history from a dealer, you might find out the engine has been swapped out already. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced chain, chain guides, several valves and lifters, head gasket and lots of stuff I don't remember. Milled head. Walt's has crate engine from Mercedes. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here? Alex Chamberlain wrote: Or will there always be some out there, like Wilton's 350SDL, that just don't show the symptoms and will always be an unknown quantity? I thought Wilton's 350 had a valve job, milled head, and new head gasket? Or is that Walt Lasher? No, I think Walt has a crate engine. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice S350D on eBay
Yes, unless the engine's been replaced a la Walt's. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice S350D on eBay On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 00:13:06 -0400 Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: A 1994 Mercedes-Benz S350D I found on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/321146781394 Im open to driving anywhere in the US if you cover expenses Nice color combo additional options include front heated seats ASD! Shame about the phone mount, but that's fixable. Wish I had the cash Is this a rod bender? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice S350D on eBay
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 00:13:06 -0400 Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: A 1994 Mercedes-Benz S350D I found on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/321146781394 Im open to driving anywhere in the US if you cover expenses Nice color combo additional options include front heated seats ASD! Shame about the phone mount, but that's fixable. Wish I had the cash Is this a rod bender? Craig YES ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:30:25 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced chain, chain guides, several valves and lifters, head gasket and lots of stuff I don't remember. Milled head. Walt's has crate engine from Mercedes. I suppose that since it was at 79 kmi, Mercedes Benz paid for the repairs. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Theres a reason I specifically want a TDI, I commute 56 miles each way to work. A big gasser sedan isn't going to cut it... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 21:15:59 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: 51c64c4f.9010...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 Those don't look like 'always garaged' headlight lenses to me. Of course, if it was a daily driver, it could have spent all daylight hours in a parking lot five days a week. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=347059854 This might be a decent deal, but a bit more than Curt's looking to pay: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=349133627 Offer this guy $2500 and see what happens: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=348607486 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a reason I specifically want a TDI, I commute 56 miles each way to work. A big gasser sedan isn't going to cut it... What about this one? Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}
Your supposition is wrong. MB paid half cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:30:25 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced chain, chain guides, several valves and lifters, head gasket and lots of stuff I don't remember. Milled head. Walt's has crate engine from Mercedes. I suppose that since it was at 79 kmi, Mercedes Benz paid for the repairs. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}
WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid half cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. And this was one of the admittedly (MBUSA did admit it, right?) defective timing chains from the early 1990s. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW 2004 TDI wagon tail light bulb replacement
Folks, A friend just purchased a 2004 tdi wagon from some dealer for, i think, about $8000 which doesn't sound like all that good a price to me. He brought it by yesterday evening and i drove it around the block, so to speak, including about a mile of freeway. It's auto and i was underwhelmed with the car and the performance. It seemed to be a little peppier when we turned the A/C off. He had a tail light bulb out, driver's side. Well, it's not exactly easy to change a bulb on the wagon. You open the interior side compartment. There's a big chunk of styrofoam in there, maybe to hold a CD player or something. That gives almost no access to the tail light. I read around on some forums and no one had any good ideas on how to change a bulb and the owner's manual doesn't cover it. So, i removed a barely accessible bolt that allowed the styrofoam chunk to drop down about 1/4 inch. Then i was able to unclip the big t shaped plastic bulb holder assembly. I tilted that forward and was able to remove and install the bulbs on the top that we needed to replace. Someone previously had broken one of the clips on the tail light assembly, but it snapped back into place ok. Small hands are a big help with this job. Someone on some VW forum had removed the entire tail light assembly, but that involves several small nuts that are pretty inaccessible. I'll stick with my 300TD. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MPG
Nice! Mike On Jun 22, 2013 7:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Mike wrote: Suzuki DR650it's the w123 of bikes with a touch of G-wagen blended in. My son drives a w123 and just sold his DR650 to a guy that is going to ride it to South America. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Theres a video on Youtube covering the TB replacement on a '98, it looks like about a 2 hour job but needs a few special tools. The water pump is probably another hour or so. I found the TB with tensioner etc for about $150, figure another $100 for water pump while you're there, not a bad day for a home mechanic. -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:30:52 -0500 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: caojz3l_vrztfbgyntopwpcdnlhg1raoinmwjhygp5uzbemg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have a 01 New Beetle 1.9L TDI. Can't hear the turbo. TB replacement ran ~ $ 800. It included water pump,thermostat. serpentine belt and tensioner idlers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Another vote for only new in VWs, used in MBs. I would not have bought a used VW - and could not afford a new MB, so have the (was) new VW. I don't hear the turbo at all in the 2012 TDI - run, don't walk from that Jetta. On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: clay wrote: I have cousins who sells VW. He advises strongly against purchasing used, as they are as expensive as a Benz and the quality of a Yugo to keep running. The one Curt was talking about seemed to be a VW price, but well into W210 territory by the time all the known and unknown faults are fixed. Most TDIs, I agree with you, the sellers seem to think they are made of gold unless they've got 200k on the odo. I think, in general, you're right about buying new as opposed to overpaying for old. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}
MBUSA denied any and everything. 'Claimed poor maintenance, though I had history of all proper maintenance, oil changes, etc., done at stealer's prior to my purchase at 69/70 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid half cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. And this was one of the admittedly (MBUSA did admit it, right?) defective timing chains from the early 1990s. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Mitch Haley wrote: What about this one? Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 For the sake of round numbers, let us assume you will drive the car 2000 miles per month. Let us also assume a TDI will cost 9 cents per gallon for fuel, or 10 cents if automatic transmission. Assume a turbo W210 costs 11 cents per gallon. Is it worth $40 a month in fuel to not be riding in a VW? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
EPA says 23/31. In a Jetta that'd be a 2002/2003 and EPA 35/44 and I could get a manual transmission which I prefer on principle. -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:55:20 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: 51c71a68.3080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a reason I specifically want a TDI, I commute 56 miles each way to work. A big gasser sedan isn't going to cut it... What about this one? Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Curt Raymond wrote: EPA says 23/31. In a Jetta that'd be a 2002/2003 and EPA 35/44 and I could get a manual transmission which I prefer on principle. Anybody with turbo 606 experience want to comment? I was under the impression that it could at least equal a W124 2.5 turbo on the freeway. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ASR Question
The ASD on my 95 diesel does that from time to time. I have pulled up to a traffic light with it on switched the car off then restarted it and the crazy light stays off. I figure some ~20 year old sensor isn't reading right. I've tested the function right after restart with no issue, it functions. So when it flips out and flys into neutral so to speak I just reset it with a restart. When that doesn't any longer I'll look into it further. William J Have a good day!! On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Moved the car out of the garage this morning to get to my paint cabinet. No ASR light. Whatever. Still need to pull a wheel off and check brake pads. Might do that today after all the FD festivities. Thanks, Dan On Jun 15, 2013, at 6:06 PM, OK Don wrote: I think I had that happen in the ML once - turning the car off then starting it again cleared the light - a re-boot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
Anyone have any experience with Pelican Parts or German Auto Parts. Both are advertising good prices but I don't know much about the companies? William -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:43 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point I emailed today, haven't heard anything since Thursday. Went over to CarQuest and ordered all new rear brake components for my 190D. They couldn't get a lower radiator hose which isn't tremendously surprising. Dr Fatty seems to be out of business, buymbparts.net seems to be gone anyway. I'm thinking of trying Pelican Parts. Who was it that bought from them before, Larry? -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:00:03 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point Message-ID: 51b61423.8080...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So I called again this morning, a woman said someone would call me back. No call back. I called a little while ago, got an answering service woman who said she could only pass the message on to Trent for him to call me. I am starting to think I am out $150 and this guy is running some kind of scam, or is incompetent, or has no clue, is in over his head, is incapacitated, or some combination of all of the above. I called NAPA to get a couple of things, will be there tomorrow, then will give AutohausAZ a try per Kleb's experience. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Posts
I sent in a post yesterday and haven't seen it come through. Did I do something wrong?? William J Have a good day!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
I doubt you can get them from a parts store but, if you know the size you can get them from a business that repairs hydraulic cylinders. As a matter of fact I was able to re-seal the fuel shut off valve on my 95 diesel for a whopping $1.13 WITH VITON rings. That only saved $120 something bucks!! William J Have a good day!! On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ok, but I am wondering if I can just wander on over to the local parts store and get them right now, if they are not something unique or special. Randy On 18/06/2013 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This is where I would trust Tom Hanson the Classic Center. He provides part numbers and/or sell you the parts as well. thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Source of new parts
Ok, you have my attention. William J Have a good day!! On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Stay tuned, but okiebenz.com might start selling new parts pretty soon. It will be a way to pay for the list. Stay tuned. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Test
Test William J Have a good day!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cyclical vibration
Hi all, new member here and new owner of an 84' 300D. Being brand new to these cars I don't have a point of reference. I have a cyclical rumble felt in the seat from about 30mph up. It occurs primarily when engine is under load (accelerating or maintaining speed up a hill). Its about one second on, one off. Seems like it might get slightly faster with speed. It's not terribly annoying but would like to fix it if possible. Flex discs and carrier bearing look good. Both have about 80k. New engine and trans mounts. Transmission has about 80k miles on it. One new axle half shaft. One old one but boots are intact. Driveshaft has one weight on it that I could find. Someone told me this is the natural vibes of a straight 5 cylinder. Not sure if i believe that. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Also, can anyone recommend a good w123 mechanic in the Norman, Moore, Okc area? Thanks, Daniel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
Well, being outside the 4yr/50Kmi warranty.at least they paid something. How disappointing to have that happen though. Looking back, any warning/symptoms before the chain let go? I think the defective chain TSB only covers Jul '92 - Apr '94 built models. http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/OM60X/OM60x_Timing_Chain_TSB.pdf If an original 3.5L OM603 engine has made it 20yrs/150Kmi and currently has no issues, I would think it's safe to assume it not a Rod bender. Many did have issues though (usually just outside of the warranty, IIRC) I'm not sure if a definite answer of why this was occurring has ever been found out. On 6/23/2013 12:07 PM, WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid half cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:30:25 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced chain, chain guides, several valves and lifters, head gasket and lots of stuff I don't remember. Milled head. Walt's has crate engine from Mercedes. I suppose that since it was at 79 kmi, Mercedes Benz paid for the repairs. Craig -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I give up!
what model is the gauge in the picture supposed to be for? because 123 547 27 57 is the same P/N as the one in our '85 (Cal) 300D. since the size of the fuel tanks (and possibly even the final drive ratio) are different, i find it unlikely that they should be the same. seems like you might be working with the wrong gauge cluster for that car. cheers! e On 16/Jun/13 15:32, G. M. Brown wrote: I know some of you may be a bit annoyed/upset in that I've only presented part of the problem/solution here but I would use up considerable bandwidth if I were to describe and include all the photos associated with this investigation. 1. I purchased an '85 300TD from my brother in 2010 for which he had recently had the fuel tank replaced in order to pass PA inspection due to rust/leakage and the fuel gauge started behaving oddly after the fuel tank replacement (Note: the odd behavior indicates rather quick indicating to the empty mark when the tank is 1/4-1/2 full). 2. I removed, cleaned and reinstalled the sending unit to no avail. I purchased a sending unit from the local PNP, managed to break the 40 gauge (mic'd. at 0.008mm) Nichrome wire, obtained Nichrome wire on the I-net, repaired both this unit and the original unit, and both behave similarly. 3. I've had two experiences with Ebay sellers where the 1st combi gauge (temp/fuel/oil pressure) purchased had a temp gauge which was not working and the 2nd was damaged in shipping due to poor packaging. I obtained a combi gauge from a 240D at the local PNP and it behaves similarly to the original 300TD combi gauge. I'm including this last photo here fyi as, considering how many times I've removed/installed sending units and combi gauges in this vehicle, I give up. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Very important to check that they used NEW stretch bolts whenever they touch the timing belt or water pump because the engine mount is integral to that whole procedure. If not you will find your engine on the GROUND sometime thereafter. Many, many, many reports on tdiclub.com of dealers not replacing those bolts and the results can be quite unpleasant... Check the parts listed on the service invoice. If the bolts aren't there, you'll want to go back to the stealer/shop for an explanation. D. On 2013-06-23 Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a video on Youtube covering the TB replacement on a '98, it looks like about a 2 hour job but needs a few special tools. The water pump is probably another hour or so. I found the TB with tensioner etc for about $150, figure another $100 for water pump while you're there, not a bad day for a home mechanic. -Curt Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Hans Neureiter wrote: Have a 01 New Beetle 1.9L TDI. Can't hear the turbo. TB replacement ran ~ $ 800.? It included water pump,thermostat. serpentine belt and tensioner idlers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
Chris James wrote: If an original 3.5L OM603 engine has made it 20yrs/150Kmi and currently has no issues, I would think it's safe to assume it not a Rod bender. Many did have issues though (usually just outside of the warranty, IIRC) I'm not sure if a definite answer of why this was occurring has ever been found out. The only theory I know that explains the fact that #1 rod is almost always the first to fail is head gasket failure and oil going into cylinder #1. OM601/602/603 always tended to get head gasket leaks at the front, the larger bore of the 350 seems to increase the likelihood of the oil going into the cylinder instead of outside the engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 combi gauge difference?
because (for starters) the tanks are different shapes/capacities? (not to mention several years different in design,...) cheers! e On 15/Jun/13 16:11, G. M. Brown wrote: The layout of the connections on the back of what I'll call the W123 combi gauge (temp./fuel/oil pressure) appear to be different between a 240D and a 300TD. Anyone know why? TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
No. I suggest Gary @ http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ I have placed two orders with him in the last week. Both were priced very competitively and arrived on time and correct as ordered. I received tracking information within 24 hours of placing my order and was not charged until the parts shipped. Probably the best thing about Gary is his willingness to tell you he can't or won't get an aftermarket part due to quality issues. One of the big problem with the mass-market parts retailers is their propensity to use low quality high margin (for them) parts from Asian supplier, such as URO. This is why you see such deals from these places. Ask them who the part manufacturer is and you'll understand why. A good example of his willingness to forego a sale due to quality would be when I talked to him about front brake rotors for my S500. I can get OE rotors for $85/each from my local dealer. He can get OEM rotors for slightly less, maybe $75/each. They are most likely the same, but understanding that I want guaranteed quality on a brake or suspension part, he agreed that the OE part was the better way to go in my case. Dan On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:13 PM, William Jackson wrote: Anyone have any experience with Pelican Parts or German Auto Parts. Both are advertising good prices but I don't know much about the companies? William ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
On a 98 Jetta? I don't see where an engine mount has to be disturbed in the process. Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:25 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Very important to check that they used NEW stretch bolts whenever they touch the timing belt or water pump because the engine mount is integral to that whole procedure. If not you will find your engine on the GROUND sometime thereafter. Many, many, many reports on tdiclub.com of dealers not replacing those bolts and the results can be quite unpleasant... Check the parts listed on the service invoice. If the bolts aren't there, you'll want to go back to the stealer/shop for an explanation. D. On 2013-06-23 Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a video on Youtube covering the TB replacement on a '98, it looks like about a 2 hour job but needs a few special tools. The water pump is probably another hour or so. I found the TB with tensioner etc for about $150, figure another $100 for water pump while you're there, not a bad day for a home mechanic. -Curt Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Hans Neureiter wrote: Have a 01 New Beetle 1.9L TDI. Can't hear the turbo. TB replacement ran ~ $ 800.? It included water pump,thermostat. serpentine belt and tensioner idlers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Paranoid Conspiracy (Benz content)
Comment on an exploding Benz http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346744/Journalist-Michael-Hastings-told-friends-needed-radar-just-hours-died-fiery-car-crash.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
Jabba tells me the only rad hoses he can get for the SD are Urotrash, suggests checking them often after installation. There might be some OE(M) available but they are likely older rubber, so whether those would then last any longer than Urotrash is questionable. --R On 6/23/13 1:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: No. I suggest Gary @ http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ I have placed two orders with him in the last week. Both were priced very competitively and arrived on time and correct as ordered. I received tracking information within 24 hours of placing my order and was not charged until the parts shipped. Probably the best thing about Gary is his willingness to tell you he can't or won't get an aftermarket part due to quality issues. One of the big problem with the mass-market parts retailers is their propensity to use low quality high margin (for them) parts from Asian supplier, such as URO. This is why you see such deals from these places. Ask them who the part manufacturer is and you'll understand why. A good example of his willingness to forego a sale due to quality would be when I talked to him about front brake rotors for my S500. I can get OE rotors for $85/each from my local dealer. He can get OEM rotors for slightly less, maybe $75/each. They are most likely the same, but understanding that I want guaranteed quality on a brake or suspension part, he agreed that the OE part was the better way to go in my case. Dan On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:13 PM, William Jackson wrote: Anyone have any experience with Pelican Parts or German Auto Parts. Both are advertising good prices but I don't know much about the companies? William ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
'Never heard of chronic timing chain problem 'till it was mentioned on this list today. Wilton - Original Message - From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs Well, being outside the 4yr/50Kmi warranty.at least they paid something. How disappointing to have that happen though. Looking back, any warning/symptoms before the chain let go? I think the defective chain TSB only covers Jul '92 - Apr '94 built models. http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/OM60X/OM60x_Timing_Chain_TSB.pdf If an original 3.5L OM603 engine has made it 20yrs/150Kmi and currently has no issues, I would think it's safe to assume it not a Rod bender. Many did have issues though (usually just outside of the warranty, IIRC) I'm not sure if a definite answer of why this was occurring has ever been found out. On 6/23/2013 12:07 PM, WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid half cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:30:25 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced chain, chain guides, several valves and lifters, head gasket and lots of stuff I don't remember. Milled head. Walt's has crate engine from Mercedes. I suppose that since it was at 79 kmi, Mercedes Benz paid for the repairs. Craig -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Maybe not on a 98, but on Hans' 2001 TDI it is definitely involved. On 2013-06-23, at 10:45, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: On a 98 Jetta? I don't see where an engine mount has to be disturbed in the process. Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:25 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Very important to check that they used NEW stretch bolts whenever they touch the timing belt or water pump because the engine mount is integral to that whole procedure. If not you will find your engine on the GROUND sometime thereafter. Many, many, many reports on tdiclub.com of dealers not replacing those bolts and the results can be quite unpleasant... Check the parts listed on the service invoice. If the bolts aren't there, you'll want to go back to the stealer/shop for an explanation. D. On 2013-06-23 Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a video on Youtube covering the TB replacement on a '98, it looks like about a 2 hour job but needs a few special tools. The water pump is probably another hour or so. I found the TB with tensioner etc for about $150, figure another $100 for water pump while you're there, not a bad day for a home mechanic. -Curt Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Hans Neureiter wrote: Have a 01 New Beetle 1.9L TDI. Can't hear the turbo. TB replacement ran ~ $ 800.? It included water pump,thermostat. serpentine belt and tensioner idlers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
Well, maybe I did, though, 'didn't trust the one replaced at 79 kmi past about 100 kmi; did precautionary replacement at ~185 kmi on the car. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs 'Never heard of chronic timing chain problem 'till it was mentioned on this list today. Wilton - Original Message - From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs Well, being outside the 4yr/50Kmi warranty.at least they paid something. How disappointing to have that happen though. Looking back, any warning/symptoms before the chain let go? I think the defective chain TSB only covers Jul '92 - Apr '94 built models. http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/OM60X/OM60x_Timing_Chain_TSB.pdf If an original 3.5L OM603 engine has made it 20yrs/150Kmi and currently has no issues, I would think it's safe to assume it not a Rod bender. Many did have issues though (usually just outside of the warranty, IIRC) I'm not sure if a definite answer of why this was occurring has ever been found out. On 6/23/2013 12:07 PM, WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid half cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:30:25 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Timing chain in mine broke at 79 kmi. Replaced chain, chain guides, several valves and lifters, head gasket and lots of stuff I don't remember. Milled head. Walt's has crate engine from Mercedes. I suppose that since it was at 79 kmi, Mercedes Benz paid for the repairs. Craig -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
The TB on the '98 is easier. Once you get good a the A4 chassis they can be done pretty quickly but the process is definitely different than on the A3. On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:56 AM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Maybe not on a 98, but on Hans' 2001 TDI it is definitely involved. On 2013-06-23, at 10:45, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: On a 98 Jetta? I don't see where an engine mount has to be disturbed in the process. Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:25 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Very important to check that they used NEW stretch bolts whenever they touch the timing belt or water pump because the engine mount is integral to that whole procedure. If not you will find your engine on the GROUND sometime thereafter. Many, many, many reports on tdiclub.com of dealers not replacing those bolts and the results can be quite unpleasant... Check the parts listed on the service invoice. If the bolts aren't there, you'll want to go back to the stealer/shop for an explanation. D. On 2013-06-23 Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a video on Youtube covering the TB replacement on a '98, it looks like about a 2 hour job but needs a few special tools. The water pump is probably another hour or so. I found the TB with tensioner etc for about $150, figure another $100 for water pump while you're there, not a bad day for a home mechanic. -Curt Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Hans Neureiter wrote: Have a 01 New Beetle 1.9L TDI. Can't hear the turbo. TB replacement ran ~ $ 800.? It included water pump,thermostat. serpentine belt and tensioner idlers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
That's what the word was at that time; no talk of bad chains then, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs Chris James wrote: If an original 3.5L OM603 engine has made it 20yrs/150Kmi and currently has no issues, I would think it's safe to assume it not a Rod bender. Many did have issues though (usually just outside of the warranty, IIRC) I'm not sure if a definite answer of why this was occurring has ever been found out. The only theory I know that explains the fact that #1 rod is almost always the first to fail is head gasket failure and oil going into cylinder #1. OM601/602/603 always tended to get head gasket leaks at the front, the larger bore of the 350 seems to increase the likelihood of the oil going into the cylinder instead of outside the engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
Same here, Dan. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point No. I suggest Gary @ http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ I have placed two orders with him in the last week. Both were priced very competitively and arrived on time and correct as ordered. I received tracking information within 24 hours of placing my order and was not charged until the parts shipped. Probably the best thing about Gary is his willingness to tell you he can't or won't get an aftermarket part due to quality issues. One of the big problem with the mass-market parts retailers is their propensity to use low quality high margin (for them) parts from Asian supplier, such as URO. This is why you see such deals from these places. Ask them who the part manufacturer is and you'll understand why. A good example of his willingness to forego a sale due to quality would be when I talked to him about front brake rotors for my S500. I can get OE rotors for $85/each from my local dealer. He can get OEM rotors for slightly less, maybe $75/each. They are most likely the same, but understanding that I want guaranteed quality on a brake or suspension part, he agreed that the OE part was the better way to go in my case. Dan On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:13 PM, William Jackson wrote: Anyone have any experience with Pelican Parts or German Auto Parts. Both are advertising good prices but I don't know much about the companies? William ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jaime - Command Unit Source?
Jaime, What's the best source for a used Command unit for a 2007 R350? Owner says theirs is dead. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
WILTON wrote: Well, maybe I did, though, 'didn't trust the one replaced at 79 kmi past about 100 kmi; did precautionary replacement at ~185 kmi on the car. Any idea what the stretch was on it when it was replaced? Found this comment on a '93 300D chain failure: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/203906-602-timing-chain-ever-see-one-break.html Yep, mine (broke) this past weekend. 1993 300D 2.5 turbo. I actually had the chain inspected about 3 months ago (4 degrees of stretch). I was ready to replace it at the time, but my MB diesel specialist talked me out of itI must have really pissed someone off in a previous life. Perfect car except for the toasted engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
4 degrees seems like a lot of stretch. What's the spec? Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: WILTON wrote: Well, maybe I did, though, 'didn't trust the one replaced at 79 kmi past about 100 kmi; did precautionary replacement at ~185 kmi on the car. Any idea what the stretch was on it when it was replaced? Found this comment on a '93 300D chain failure: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/203906-602-timing-chain-ever-see-one-break.html Yep, mine (broke) this past weekend. 1993 300D 2.5 turbo. I actually had the chain inspected about 3 months ago (4 degrees of stretch). I was ready to replace it at the time, but my MB diesel specialist talked me out of itI must have really pissed someone off in a previous life. Perfect car except for the toasted engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
I got supposedly Genuine Original Equipment Replacement rad hose from Keenan Motors (MB dealer in PA) few days ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point Jabba tells me the only rad hoses he can get for the SD are Urotrash, suggests checking them often after installation. There might be some OE(M) available but they are likely older rubber, so whether those would then last any longer than Urotrash is questionable. --R On 6/23/13 1:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: No. I suggest Gary @ http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ I have placed two orders with him in the last week. Both were priced very competitively and arrived on time and correct as ordered. I received tracking information within 24 hours of placing my order and was not charged until the parts shipped. Probably the best thing about Gary is his willingness to tell you he can't or won't get an aftermarket part due to quality issues. One of the big problem with the mass-market parts retailers is their propensity to use low quality high margin (for them) parts from Asian supplier, such as URO. This is why you see such deals from these places. Ask them who the part manufacturer is and you'll understand why. A good example of his willingness to forego a sale due to quality would be when I talked to him about front brake rotors for my S500. I can get OE rotors for $85/each from my local dealer. He can get OEM rotors for slightly less, maybe $75/each. They are most likely the same, but understanding that I want guaranteed quality on a brake or suspension part, he agreed that the OE part was the better way to go in my case. Dan On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:13 PM, William Jackson wrote: Anyone have any experience with Pelican Parts or German Auto Parts. Both are advertising good prices but I don't know much about the companies? William ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
If it came from Keenan it's OE. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:08 PM, WILTON wrote: I got supposedly Genuine Original Equipment Replacement rad hose from Keenan Motors (MB dealer in PA) few days ago. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
WILTON wrote: I got supposedly Genuine Original Equipment Replacement rad hose from Keenan Motors (MB dealer in PA) few days ago. Any obvious date codes on it? When I lost an oil cooler hose on my 1979 300SD, the hose itself was clearly marked 7/79. (it didn't die of old age when it failed in 2002, a collapsed motor mount let a belt drive accessory cut the hose) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
Dan Penoff wrote: 4 degrees seems like a lot of stretch. What's the spec? I think it's 6° for 61x and 3 or 4° for 60x. I'd be real unhappy if my indy told me it wasn't worth replacing at the factory wear limit. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
No. Asked indie to measure it; response when I asked what it was: Oh, I forgot. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs WILTON wrote: Well, maybe I did, though, 'didn't trust the one replaced at 79 kmi past about 100 kmi; did precautionary replacement at ~185 kmi on the car. Any idea what the stretch was on it when it was replaced? Found this comment on a '93 300D chain failure: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/203906-602-timing-chain-ever-see-one-break.html Yep, mine (broke) this past weekend. 1993 300D 2.5 turbo. I actually had the chain inspected about 3 months ago (4 degrees of stretch). I was ready to replace it at the time, but my MB diesel specialist talked me out of itI must have really pissed someone off in a previous life. Perfect car except for the toasted engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Command Unit Source?
Hm... 2007 R is Alpine's NTG2 unit. Dealer is probably insane in price. What does dead mean? No response at all? No audio? Could be another component that looks like a head unit problem. The guys at Becker Auto Sound might be able to fix it or have another unit to exchange. Otherwise, dealer is the only source. Alpine did some service, but I'm not sure what they do these days. Maybe outsourced like everyone else. Unfortunately, not all of these units are as well supported as the Harman/Becker units after the warranty is over :-) Jaime On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Jaime, What's the best source for a used Command unit for a 2007 R350? Owner says theirs is dead. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs
Indie tried to talk me out of replacing at 105+ kmi on the chain. 'Told 'im, Original broke at 79 kmi; I don't trust it; replace it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs 4 degrees seems like a lot of stretch. What's the spec? Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: WILTON wrote: Well, maybe I did, though, 'didn't trust the one replaced at 79 kmi past about 100 kmi; did precautionary replacement at ~185 kmi on the car. Any idea what the stretch was on it when it was replaced? Found this comment on a '93 300D chain failure: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/203906-602-timing-chain-ever-see-one-break.html Yep, mine (broke) this past weekend. 1993 300D 2.5 turbo. I actually had the chain inspected about 3 months ago (4 degrees of stretch). I was ready to replace it at the time, but my MB diesel specialist talked me out of itI must have really pissed someone off in a previous life. Perfect car except for the toasted engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point
Only # on hose is MB A 126 500 0875. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point WILTON wrote: I got supposedly Genuine Original Equipment Replacement rad hose from Keenan Motors (MB dealer in PA) few days ago. Any obvious date codes on it? When I lost an oil cooler hose on my 1979 300SD, the hose itself was clearly marked 7/79. (it didn't die of old age when it failed in 2002, a collapsed motor mount let a belt drive accessory cut the hose) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Somebody mentioned how the engine in the Beetle sits up under the windshield. On the Jetta it's pretty well out in the open. Not like a 240D, more like a 190. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:56 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Maybe not on a 98, but on Hans' 2001 TDI it is definitely involved. On 2013-06-23, at 10:45, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: On a 98 Jetta? I don't see where an engine mount has to be disturbed in the process. Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:25 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Very important to check that they used NEW stretch bolts whenever they touch the timing belt or water pump because the engine mount is integral to that whole procedure. If not you will find your engine on the GROUND sometime thereafter. Many, many, many reports on tdiclub.com of dealers not replacing those bolts and the results can be quite unpleasant... Check the parts listed on the service invoice. If the bolts aren't there, you'll want to go back to the stealer/shop for an explanation. D. On 2013-06-23 Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a video on Youtube covering the TB replacement on a '98, it looks like about a 2 hour job but needs a few special tools. The water pump is probably another hour or so. I found the TB with tensioner etc for about $150, figure another $100 for water pump while you're there, not a bad day for a home mechanic. -Curt Sun, 23 Jun 2013, Hans Neureiter wrote: Have a 01 New Beetle 1.9L TDI. Can't hear the turbo. TB replacement ran ~ $ 800.? It included water pump,thermostat. serpentine belt and tensioner idlers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
All the 99.5 and later TDIs (Golf, Jetta, Beetle are all on the same platform) have this issue with single-use stretch bolts not being replaced and failing. At 2:48 PM -0400 6/23/13, Curt Raymond wrote: Somebody mentioned how the engine in the Beetle sits up under the windshield. On the Jetta it's pretty well out in the open. Not like a 240D, more like a 190. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cyclical vibration
Welcome to the group! I would suspect the flex disks or carrier bearing even though they only have 80k on them. There are no natural vibes that haven't been dampened by MB - that should be one smooth running car. I used to live in Norman, but the only decent MB wrench that I know has since gone to that great MB achive in the sky (RIP), sorry. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:16 PM, DC Nichols dc.njch...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, new member here and new owner of an 84' 300D. Being brand new to these cars I don't have a point of reference. I have a cyclical rumble felt in the seat from about 30mph up. It occurs primarily when engine is under load (accelerating or maintaining speed up a hill). Its about one second on, one off. Seems like it might get slightly faster with speed. It's not terribly annoying but would like to fix it if possible. Flex discs and carrier bearing look good. Both have about 80k. New engine and trans mounts. Transmission has about 80k miles on it. One new axle half shaft. One old one but boots are intact. Driveshaft has one weight on it that I could find. Someone told me this is the natural vibes of a straight 5 cylinder. Not sure if i believe that. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Also, can anyone recommend a good w123 mechanic in the Norman, Moore, Okc area? Thanks, Daniel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here?
Which explains the high cost of his TB replacement vs what I would expect. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:53 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: All the 99.5 and later TDIs (Golf, Jetta, Beetle are all on the same platform) have this issue with single-use stretch bolts not being replaced and failing. At 2:48 PM -0400 6/23/13, Curt Raymond wrote: Somebody mentioned how the engine in the Beetle sits up under the windshield. On the Jetta it's pretty well out in the open. Not like a 240D, more like a 190. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cyclical vibration
It's been my experience that the first thing to check when one has any kind of vibration is tires. Sometimes one can feel a tread separation just by carefully feeling for it on each tire. The next thing is to jack up each end of the car and lay a straight edge on a block close to the tread and slowly turn the wheel. After that, rotating the tires front to back can be diagnostic if that changes the frequency/interval of the vibration. If so, take the car to a good tire shop for rebalancing and professional checks. If no luck after that, then I check the tie rod ends and other parts of the front end for looseness. Also check the wheel lugs for looseness. I put a large pipe wrench on the drive shaft and twist it while closely looking at the flex discs for cracks in the rubber. I make sure and put the pipe wrench close to the ends of the drive shaft links so the drive shaft tube won't be deformed. The rubber mount for the carrier bearing should be moveable but not loosely moveable. If none of that is diagnostic, then perhaps some of the real pros on this list can suggest more serious problems to look for. Gerry '83 300D '83 240D Hi all, new member here and new owner of an 84' 300D. Being brand new to these cars I don't have a point of reference. I have a cyclical rumble felt in the seat from about 30mph up. It occurs primarily when engine is under load (accelerating or maintaining speed up a hill). Its about one second on, one off. Seems like it might get slightly faster with speed. It's not terribly annoying but would like to fix it if possible. Flex discs and carrier bearing look good. Both have about 80k. New engine and trans mounts. Transmission has about 80k miles on it. One new axle half shaft. One old one but boots are intact. Driveshaft has one weight on it that I could find. Someone told me this is the natural vibes of a straight 5 cylinder. Not sure if i believe that. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Also, can anyone recommend a good w123 mechanic in the Norman, Moore, Okc area? Thanks, Daniel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3199/5933 - Release Date: 06/23/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?}
You know, I love my 126 SD, I loved my 123 TD, and I wouldn't mind having a 124. But I'm not sure I'd have a new MBZ, even for free. IMO, reputation was (and WAS is the operative word here) Mercedes' strongest asset. One story like this overrides hundreds of positive reports. Major engine failure with less than 200K miles is just unacceptable for a modern car with scheduled maintenance. But I'm sure MBUSA isn't interested in my opinion. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} MBUSA denied any and everything. 'Claimed poor maintenance, though I had history of all proper maintenance, oil changes, etc., done at stealer's prior to my purchase at 69/70 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rod bender repairs [was: Re: Any TDI folks here?} WILTON wrote: Your supposition is wrong. MB paid half cost of parts, and they held the price list, so you know how that went, don't you? I paid $2800. And this was one of the admittedly (MBUSA did admit it, right?) defective timing chains from the early 1990s. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Random orbit polisher/waxer
Some of you responded awhile back regarding my post inquiring about a random orbit polisher/waxer as I've been getting tired of waxing my cars by hand. I ended up going cheap (Harbor Freight Chicago 10 Random Orbit Polisher/Waxer, Model 43424) and I'll be returning it tomorrow for a refund/replacement as something broke internally as there were little metal pieces being tossed about. I wasn't able to wax my '85 300TD completely before this occurred, thank goodness it's only ~1M old and their warranty is 90 days. This info. just in case any of you are considering the same thing . . . a word of warning. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Random orbit polisher/waxer
Anything from HF with more than one moving part is likely to fail sooner rather than later. That said, I bought one of their big wet tile saws, and was quite pleased with it. It took some occasional maintenance but it did very well. And the $20 recip saw is still going strong, surprisingly, after getting used quite severely. --R On 6/23/13 4:08 PM, G. M. Brown wrote: Some of you responded awhile back regarding my post inquiring about a random orbit polisher/waxer as I've been getting tired of waxing my cars by hand. I ended up going cheap (Harbor Freight Chicago 10 Random Orbit Polisher/Waxer, Model 43424) and I'll be returning it tomorrow for a refund/replacement as something broke internally as there were little metal pieces being tossed about. I wasn't able to wax my '85 300TD completely before this occurred, thank goodness it's only ~1M old and their warranty is 90 days. This info. just in case any of you are considering the same thing . . . a word of warning. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My HorrificTrip...... Charles K. Scruggs
Instead of wasting all of that money on Scammer Scruggs, send half that to me and let me put it to good use helping to educate a grndson or grndaughter. Wilton - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My HorrificTrip.. Charles K. Scruggs Looks like it's time for Scruggs to change his password. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Charles Scruggs Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:14 AM To: undisclosed recipients: Subject: [MBZ] My HorrificTrip.. Charles K. Scruggs I really hope you get this fast. I could not inform anyone about our trip, because it was impromptu. we had to be in Philippines for Tour.. The program was successful, but our journey has turned sour. we misplaced our wallet and cell phone on our way back to the hotel we lodge in after we went for sight seeing. The wallet contained all the valuables we had. Now, our passport is in custody of the hotel management pending when we make payment. I am sorry if i am inconveniencing you, but i have only very few people to run to now. i will be indeed very grateful if i can get a short term loan from you ($2,460). this will enable me sort our hotel bills and get my sorry self back home. I will really appreciate whatever you can afford in assisting me with. I promise to refund it in full as soon as soon as I return. let me know if you can be of any assistance. Please, let me know soonest. Thanks so much. Charles K. Scruggs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 91 350SDL
Just started 350SDL with just a touch of the starter after sitting untouched for 2 weeks; drove front wheels up onto some solid, 3-inch thick bricks to improve access under front of the car for lower rad hose replacement; removed hose from bottom of expansion tank and bottom of radiator, and it started raining. Maybe I can get it done tomorrow. Sure miss my nice, roomy enclosed garage at the house I designed and built 34/35 years ago; moved from there to an old house in town 25 years ago. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] not mine 300td
I paid $650 for a drive train from a rusty car I test drove. The po removed the drive train and dropped it to the back of my pickup truck. On Jun 23, 2013 10:25 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Not for me. I only have blue interiors. But when you wanted a 1985 wagon drivetrain, would you have paid $850 for two of them? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW 2004 TDI wagon tail light bulb replacement
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks, A friend just purchased a 2004 tdi wagon from some dealer for, i think, about $8000 which doesn't sound like all that good a price to me. He brought it by yesterday evening and i drove it around the block, so to speak, including about a mile of freeway. It's auto and i was underwhelmed with the car and the performance. Then something's wrong with it. An '04 TDI should be as fast as an '87 300D, meaning much faster than any 617 car in the best of tune. They are *not* slow. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Command Unit Source?
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Unfortunately, not all of these units are as well supported as the Harman/Becker units after the warranty is over :-) What kind does an '07 E430 or E550 have? How about an '09 C300 4Matic? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT:: Ain't Misbehavin' P-51 Mustang - for WWII Aircraft Fans
Don't miss the last few seconds. http://vimeo.com/36034351 Footnote: P-51 was awesome but according to my dad (who flew P-47s in China, mostly air-to-mud) the P-51 engine was water-cooled and the cooling system was quite vulnerable to small-arms ground fire. Baring catastrophe, the P-47s always came back to base but losing at least one P-51 per mission was par for the course. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For Those W116 Lovers Out There...
Looks like a really nice example: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1717176-fs-socal-1977-450sel-3-500-a.html#post5827496 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:: Ain't Misbehavin' P-51 Mustang - for WWII Aircraft Fans
Got yourself another ATTABOY, Scott. Thanks! Wilton - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT:: Ain't Misbehavin' P-51 Mustang - for WWII Aircraft Fans Don't miss the last few seconds. http://vimeo.com/36034351 Footnote: P-51 was awesome but according to my dad (who flew P-47s in China, mostly air-to-mud) the P-51 engine was water-cooled and the cooling system was quite vulnerable to small-arms ground fire. Baring catastrophe, the P-47s always came back to base but losing at least one P-51 per mission was par for the course. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Those W116 Lovers Out There...
Yes, very nice! Reasonably priced too. I did catch the fact the door inserts are velour though, so the seats have been redone in either Tex or Leather. Don't see too many cars with velour, too bad they didn't try source it. Looks like it's still available (velour upholstery material): http://www.cabrio.de/khm/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=15Itemid=16lang=en Anyone on the list have an MB with a velour interior? On 6/23/2013 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Looks like a really nice example: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1717176-fs-socal-1977-450sel-3-500-a.html#post5827496 Dan -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 12:20:32 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For the sake of round numbers, let us assume you will drive the car 2000 miles per month. Let us also assume a TDI will cost 9 cents per gallon for fuel, or 10 cents if automatic transmission. Assume a turbo W210 costs 11 cents per gallon. Is it worth $40 a month in fuel to not be riding in a VW? $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 12:20:32 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For the sake of round numbers, let us assume you will drive the car 2000 miles per month. Let us also assume a TDI will cost 9 cents per gallon for fuel, or 10 cents if automatic transmission. Assume a turbo W210 costs 11 cents per gallon. Is it worth $40 a month in fuel to not be riding in a VW? $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Command Unit Source?
I don't have details at this point. I gave him Ed's number and web address. I really don't want to get sucked into something I have no knowledge of - lots of calories burned without a productive outcome. Thanks, Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Hm... 2007 R is Alpine's NTG2 unit. Dealer is probably insane in price. What does dead mean? No response at all? No audio? Could be another component that looks like a head unit problem. The guys at Becker Auto Sound might be able to fix it or have another unit to exchange. Otherwise, dealer is the only source. Alpine did some service, but I'm not sure what they do these days. Maybe outsourced like everyone else. Unfortunately, not all of these units are as well supported as the Harman/Becker units after the warranty is over :-) Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:44:25 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Sure miss my nice, roomy enclosed garage at the house I designed and built 34/35 years ago; moved from there to an old house in town 25 years ago. Now why would you go and do that? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cyclical vibration
I have a cyclical rumble felt in the seat from about 30mph up. It occurs primarily when engine is under load (accelerating or maintaining speed up a hill). Its about one second on, one off. Driveline frequency, or wheel? The former is about 3x the latter. Has the driveline been removed/operated upon by the unworthy, perhaps misaligning the halves? Lotsa rubber that can be replaced under there that might affect this. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 combi gauge difference?
The layout ... W123 combi gauge ... different between a 240D and a 300TD. Anyone know why? Just guessing, but perhaps the advent of the 'economy' gauge (on some models in the line) caused it? Remember that they use a _lot_ of common parts across the line. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:42:47 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Will a W210 do 30 MPG? I'd be surprised if the turbo OM606 didn't. The '95 diesel W124 with the NA 606 easily gets 30 mpg, and the 210 chassis has a significantly better Cd than the 124 (which was no slouch in its day). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Dan Penoff wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Yep. Can't believe I did that. If Curt really cares about fuel cost, he could always get a first generation Insight with stick shift. 65-70mpg on 87 octane gasahol. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
My 210 e300 usually does 32 or so Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:42:47 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaime - Command Unit Source?
An 07 would be an E550, and it would have Harman Becker NTG1. Although the system shows it age today, its still quite nice. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with it. The '09 C would be a more modern NTG4 made by Mitsubishi. I don't have any personal experience with it, but I haven't heard anything bad. Jaime On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, not all of these units are as well supported as the Harman/Becker units after the warranty is over :-) What kind does an '07 E430 or E550 have? How about an '09 C300 4Matic? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Craig wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:42:47 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Huh? $4.00/40 miles = 10 cents per mile at 40 mpg. I figured, first order approximation, 45mpg at 9 cents and 36mpg at 11 cents. A 210 4matic wagon can do 30 mpg, but not at 70 mph (mine has almost 250k and can do it at 60-62mph). A 210 turbo 2wd sedan should get somewhere over 35 mpg on a 56 mile hwy trip, shouldn't it? I know we've had people here with 98-99 E300Ds, but none of them have spoken up today. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Those W116 Lovers Out There...
Velour was available in some US models as a special order option. Its quite rare. Once upon a time I came across an US 300SD with velour interior: http://images.jaimekop.com/2001_10_03_300SD_Velour/ And more recently a 380SEL and 300D. But I'm never managed to own a car with it. But I've had a few euro cars with cloth interior. Jaime On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Yes, very nice! Reasonably priced too. I did catch the fact the door inserts are velour though, so the seats have been redone in either Tex or Leather. Don't see too many cars with velour, too bad they didn't try source it. Looks like it's still available (velour upholstery material): http://www.cabrio.de/khm/**index.php?option=com_content** view=articleid=15Itemid=16**lang=enhttp://www.cabrio.de/khm/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=15Itemid=16lang=en Anyone on the list have an MB with a velour interior? On 6/23/2013 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Looks like a really nice example: http://www.benzworld.org/**forums/sale-wanted-trade-** giveaway/1717176-fs-socal-**1977-450sel-3-500-a.html#**post5827496http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1717176-fs-socal-1977-450sel-3-500-a.html#post5827496 Dan -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Random orbit polisher/waxer
--R wrote: Anything from HF with more than one moving part is likely to fail sooner rather than later. Real fukcers don't by shit made by communist under age workers living in communist squalor! We are fukced!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] okiebenz mail is all banned up
Posted 9-days ago and just now showing up? And half the other posts today were all posted many days ago. I say okiebenz mail is all banned-up. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Those W116 Lovers Out There...
My 250 LWB had velour that was ordered with the car. Not sure why - it didn't wear well and was difficult to clean. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Velour was available in some US models as a special order option. Its quite rare. Once upon a time I came across an US 300SD with velour interior: http://images.jaimekop.com/2001_10_03_300SD_Velour/ And more recently a 380SEL and 300D. But I'm never managed to own a car with it. But I've had a few euro cars with cloth interior. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My 210 e300 usually does 32 or so 4sp NA or overdrive turbo? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Almost all of SWMBO's and my activities were in town, 12 miles from home. Many times, I'd be at home and had left something I needed in town, or I'd be at home and needed something I'd left in town. Beautiful, Georgian colonial revival house in town came available at very reasonable price - needed work/restoration, which I did. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:44:25 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Sure miss my nice, roomy enclosed garage at the house I designed and built 34/35 years ago; moved from there to an old house in town 25 years ago. Now why would you go and do that? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] okiebenz mail is all banned up
Fuck you Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Posted 9-days ago and just now showing up? And half the other posts today were all posted many days ago. I say okiebenz mail is all banned-up. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
5 speed NA Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My 210 e300 usually does 32 or so 4sp NA or overdrive turbo? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:: Ain't Misbehavin' P-51 Mustang - for WWII Aircraft Fans
Wilton wrote: Got yourself another ATTABOY, Scott. Thanks! Text under the video reads: Take a ride with Billy Strickland in Birmingham, Alabama in his beautiful Mustang... Ya gotta find your relations to this guy and have him take you up? Sounds like your distant relative? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] okiebenz mail is all banned up
Kaleb wrote: Fuck you The owner of okiebenz needs to ban you. Sounds like a dire situation, folks... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here?
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:57:04 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Huh? $4.00/40 miles = 10 cents per mile at 40 mpg. Now _I_ made a mistake. I had originally computed with $4.00/gallon, but decided that was to high, so I changed to $3.50/gallon. I changed everything except the $ 4.00 in the first line. Oops. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] okiebenz mail is all banned up
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:31:21 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: The owner of okiebenz needs to ban you. Sounds like a dire situation, folks... mao And this is not Banned. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] okiebenz mail is all banned up
Oops. I blame Mao, why in the world would he put banned in the subject, geez Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:31:21 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: The owner of okiebenz needs to ban you. Sounds like a dire situation, folks... mao And this is not Banned. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
