Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Best road car ever built.  Period.  Bar none.


Craig via Mercedes 
March 4, 2018 at 6:08 PM
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:37:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

So why would you recommend the 300SDL?


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yes, in RTW, They are not only smart enough to do that , but they can 
actually push  a clutch and shift gears.  That is why a 240D 3.0 is the 
most desirable 123.



G Mann via Mercedes 
March 4, 2018 at 4:19 PM
Anyone remember when drivers were smart enough to adjust their own
temperature, actually move a lever to cause defrost or floor heat?

Ahhh so that's why they call them "the good old days". hmmm


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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

True story.  
In my experience the servo did a surprisingly good job, until it started to 
leak coolant.  An impressive concept (all mechanical) but poor implementation.
Unfortunately, the plastic shell and a seal were prone to leaks and cracking, 
critical parts were not replaceable.  Jim Cathy compiled a great deal of ACCII 
data on his website for anyone interested:
http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html


> -Original Message-
> From:  Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> 
> The servo does everything. It controls the coolant flow, it turns the
> compressor on and off, it controls the vacuum to the flaps. It and the cc amp
> control control the whole system.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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[MBZ] 88 mb 300ce rear glass

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

With regards to the 88 300 ce rear glass.
I am not sugessting you commit fraud but when you are ready to insure this car 
it would only cost your deductible to have the rear glass replaced. Ron Courcy. 
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Re: [MBZ] Crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This one is parked in the garage, not the weeds.


On 3/4/2018 9:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

They're not worth anything sitting in the weeds out back...
-Curt
  


 On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 10:09:47 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  Likely it will.


Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 10:08 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Maybe this ce I got will be worth something

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

Yes I had paid 4200 for it and had about 6500 in it. I was,sure they

would total it. Couple years ago  I went to bid on CE @ Owls Head Auction
in Maine  &  had certified check for 7500.  Auctionneer told me it would
open @10k & it went for 12000. This may be New England or thst 123
coupes,are much rarer than sedans.

YMMV.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Mar 4, 2018 9:31 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

wow



On 3/4/2018 8:30 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a

couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400  & they
repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. Hard to
find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

     1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo

     https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-

turbo/6514968481.html

     


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Re: [MBZ] Crack

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

True. Like all 123's they are prone to rust.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 10:17 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> They're not worth anything sitting in the weeds out back...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 10:09:47 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Likely it will.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Mar 4, 2018 10:08 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe this ce I got will be worth something
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes I had paid 4200 for it and had about 6500 in it. I was,sure they
> > would total it. Couple years ago  I went to bid on CE @ Owls Head Auction
> > in Maine  &  had certified check for 7500.  Auctionneer told me it would
> > open @10k & it went for 12000. This may be New England or thst 123
> > coupes,are much rarer than sedans.
> > > YMMV.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > >> On Mar 4, 2018 9:31 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> wow
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 3/4/2018 8:30 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > >>> Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a
> > couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400  & they
> > repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. Hard
> to
> > find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> > >>> Wickford RI
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mar 4, 2018 8:56 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo
> > >>>
> > >>>https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-
> > turbo/6514968481 <(651)%20496-8481>.html
> > >>> > mercedes-300cd-turbo/6514968481 <(651)%20496-8481>.html>
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Re: [MBZ] Crack

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

They're not worth anything sitting in the weeds out back...
-Curt
 

On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 10:09:47 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Likely it will.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 10:08 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe this ce I got will be worth something
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > Yes I had paid 4200 for it and had about 6500 in it. I was,sure they
> would total it. Couple years ago  I went to bid on CE @ Owls Head Auction
> in Maine  &  had certified check for 7500.  Auctionneer told me it would
> open @10k & it went for 12000. This may be New England or thst 123
> coupes,are much rarer than sedans.
> > YMMV.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2018 9:31 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> wow
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 3/4/2018 8:30 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> >>> Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a
> couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400  & they
> repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. Hard to
> find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.
> >>>
> >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2018 8:56 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo
> >>>
> >>>    https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-
> turbo/6514968481.html
> >>>     mercedes-300cd-turbo/6514968481.html>
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

And they don't need valve adjustments

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 10:06 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> 116 with an OM602 turbo would be lovely. The 617 is venerable and tough
> and all that but the 60x engines start so much better in the cold and get
> better mileage...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 7:32:50 PM EST, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Kaleb,
>
> >>A 126 is far superior for sure unless you just like the 116.<<
>
>
> Having owned a 116 for over 20 years,  I respectfully disagree on
> several counts.  The interior in the 126 tears and breaks down more than
> the 116.  The plastic around the sides hides rust and cheapens the look of
> a classic vehicle.  The front headlights/park lights look too Japanese.
> And having driven both, I and my butt would prefer a 116.  Now to agree
> with you, the mono valve is much better than the servo system.  Yes, I
> always yearned for a 300SDL, but was leary of some of the reported motor
> issues.  The extra room would have been welcomed by my long legs.
>
> I hope you find the car you want.  I tend to think it would be a newer
> year model.  By the way, my 116 still has the door on it that I got from
> you many years ago.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Roger
>
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] Crack

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Likely it will.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 10:08 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe this ce I got will be worth something
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > Yes I had paid 4200 for it and had about 6500 in it. I was,sure they
> would total it. Couple years ago  I went to bid on CE @ Owls Head Auction
> in Maine  &  had certified check for 7500.  Auctionneer told me it would
> open @10k & it went for 12000. This may be New England or thst 123
> coupes,are much rarer than sedans.
> > YMMV.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2018 9:31 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> wow
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 3/4/2018 8:30 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> >>> Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a
> couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400   & they
> repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. Hard to
> find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.
> >>>
> >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2018 8:56 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo
> >>>
> >>> https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-
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> >>>  mercedes-300cd-turbo/6514968481.html>
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Re: [MBZ] Crack

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Maybe this ce I got will be worth something 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Yes I had paid 4200 for it and had about 6500 in it. I was,sure they would 
> total it. Couple years ago  I went to bid on CE @ Owls Head Auction in Maine  
> &  had certified check for 7500.  Auctionneer told me it would open @10k & it 
> went for 12000. This may be New England or thst 123 coupes,are much rarer 
> than sedans.
> YMMV. 
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2018 9:31 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> wow
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/4/2018 8:30 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a 
>>> couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400   & they 
>>> repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. Hard to 
>>> find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2018 8:56 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-turbo/6514968481.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

116 with an OM602 turbo would be lovely. The 617 is venerable and tough and all 
that but the 60x engines start so much better in the cold and get better 
mileage...
-Curt
 

On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 7:32:50 PM EST, ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Kaleb,

>>A 126 is far superior for sure unless you just like the 116.<<      

    Having owned a 116 for over 20 years,  I respectfully disagree on several 
counts.  The interior in the 126 tears and breaks down more than the 116.  The 
plastic around the sides hides rust and cheapens the look of a classic vehicle. 
 The front headlights/park lights look too Japanese.  And having driven both, I 
and my butt would prefer a 116.  Now to agree with you, the mono valve is much 
better than the servo system.  Yes, I always yearned for a 300SDL, but was 
leary of some of the reported motor issues.  The extra room would have been 
welcomed by my long legs.

    I hope you find the car you want.  I tend to think it would be a newer year 
model.  By the way, my 116 still has the door on it that I got from you many 
years ago.

Best wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] the time has come

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Wow, an LT Don sighting!
I've been through a lot of cars in the time you've had that one...
-Curt
 

On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 7:37:20 PM EST, Don Wills via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The time has come to send my crusty rusty old 1977 240D to the crusher. I
have accumulated a few spare parts during my fun filled period of
ownership. If anyone could use them, email me at don.b...@gmail.com and I
will send them your way. Much better than putting them into a landfill. I
can FedEx them for pretty much nothing due to where I work. No cost on your
part.

Clatta-clatta no more.  :-(

D.
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Re: [MBZ] Crack

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Yes I had paid 4200 for it and had about 6500 in it. I was,sure they would
total it. Couple years ago  I went to bid on CE @ Owls Head Auction in
Maine  &  had certified check for 7500.  Auctionneer told me it would open
@10k & it went for 12000. This may be New England or thst 123 coupes,are
much rarer than sedans.
YMMV.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 9:31 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> wow
>
>
> On 3/4/2018 8:30 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>
>> Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a
>> couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400   & they
>> repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. Hard to
>> find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2018 8:56 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> 1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo
>>
>> https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-
>> turbo/6514968481.html
>> > 300cd-turbo/6514968481.html>
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Re: [MBZ] Crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

wow


On 3/4/2018 8:30 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a 
couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400   & they 
repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. 
Hard to find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.


Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 8:56 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo


https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-turbo/6514968481.html




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Re: [MBZ] Crack

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well let me tell you a surprising story. When tree fell on my 82,CD a
couple years,ago my ins co no less said it was worth 13400   & they
repaired it. Shocked me but you may be wrong on crack for this one. Hard to
find,a decent a CD or CE under 10k.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> 1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo
>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

G wrote:
> Anyone remember when drivers were smart enough to...

... drive big wide cars on skinny lanes, bias ply tires, on ice and
packed snow.  Nice days before the Lady Bird Johnson attack on
advertising signs along the roads of America - Burma Shave, etc.
youtube.com/watch?v=oeT5otk2R1g
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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Nope, none at all.  All fake.


On 3/4/2018 8:18 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb wrote:

Fake news.

Really?  No floods in Houston last Fall?
Interesting.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

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Kaleb wrote:
> Fake news.

Really?  No floods in Houston last Fall?
Interesting.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Crack

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rare color for a CD.  My very first glimpse of an Optima battery.

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[MBZ] Crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1982 Mercedes 300cd Turbo

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300cd-turbo/6514968481.html


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Re: [MBZ] the time has come

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So, Wanko the Sane, what are you replacing it with?

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> How many miles did you rack up on the car?
>
> My '87 wagon is slowly creeping up on "death by tin-worm".
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD break calibers and petal

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

What year is your CD? Mine is 82. I love the coupe lines.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 6:53 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
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> I’m gonna have both running fine soon so you might be too late. My friend
> whose barn I am using had kinda taken a liking to the CD too...
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Mar 4, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I need to come out there and haul it home along with the pos 210
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Mar 4, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looked at this CD this afternoon, pulled off a wheel to see how brake
> stuff looked. Disc looked ok but I’m thinking the calipers are pretty much
> seized.  It didn’t move much over the last few years and when I did drive
> it around everything was grinding. I’ll probably just get a set of remans
> and hoses and pads and swap everything out. Last ones I bought for the TD
> weren’t much if I recall so that would get it roadworthy and is not s very
> hard job. The cylinder and boost seemed to work fine so that part is OK.
> >>
> >> Anyone with good thoughts on parts let me know. I saw where my bank has
> some deal with Advance Auto for a discount, I’ll check the other flaps
> around for coupons and rock auto too. You web surfers feel free to have at
> it...
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Re: [MBZ] the time has come

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How many miles did you rack up on the car?

My '87 wagon is slowly creeping up on "death by tin-worm".

-
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

1980 w116 is a 450 SE

81 was the 126  — 380 and 500 SE

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 4, 2018, at 6:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 81
> 
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>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:02 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 08:05:53 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Those are 126, not 116.
>> 
>> When was the transition to W126?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] the time has come

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You don't want the engine unless you're in it for a new vacuum pump.  ;-)

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> Hi Don, I'll take engine & transmission.
>
> JK!
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>
> On March 4, 2018 7:37:12 PM EST, Don Wills via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >The time has come to send my crusty rusty old 1977 240D to the crusher.
> >I
> >have accumulated a few spare parts during my fun filled period of
> >ownership. If anyone could use them, email me at don.b...@gmail.com and
> >I
> >will send them your way. Much better than putting them into a landfill.
> >I
> >can FedEx them for pretty much nothing due to where I work. No cost on
> >your
> >part.
> >
> >Clatta-clatta no more.  :-(
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I stand corrected, and plead failure to ingest sufficient coffee before 
attempting to answer a technical question at 7 a.m. on a Sunday.
-- 
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On March 4, 2018 4:07:33 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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>That is correct 
>
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>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> According to Jaime, the crypsler is ACCII, as the 600 had the ACCI
>system, and our 85+ cars have ACCIII, the pushbutton system.
>> 
>>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> March 4, 2018 at 7:01 AM
>>> I know that the later HVAC ACC II systems are designed to default to
>defrost with any major fault of the control system, so I'd be
>suspicious of the main push button unit in the dash, but that may not
>be the case for this system. Somewhere I have a schematic for this
>system.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] the time has come

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

Nope. Not parting out (the "crusher" folks resell). I am talking oil
filter, air filter, spare tail light, stuff like that.


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> Hi Don, I'll take engine & transmission.
>
> JK!
>
> Nice to hear from you!
> --
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> Charleston SC
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>
> On March 4, 2018 7:37:12 PM EST, Don Wills via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >The time has come to send my crusty rusty old 1977 240D to the crusher.
> >I
> >have accumulated a few spare parts during my fun filled period of
> >ownership. If anyone could use them, email me at don.b...@gmail.com and
> >I
> >will send them your way. Much better than putting them into a landfill.
> >I
> >can FedEx them for pretty much nothing due to where I work. No cost on
> >your
> >part.
> >
> >Clatta-clatta no more.  :-(
> >
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Re: [MBZ] the time has come

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Lt Don, back from the dead for one final post?
No more diesel?
Should I sell him my 2016 direct injection (gas) Chebby Cruze?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] the time has come

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Hi Don, I'll take engine & transmission.

JK!

Nice to hear from you!
-- 
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On March 4, 2018 7:37:12 PM EST, Don Wills via Mercedes  
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>The time has come to send my crusty rusty old 1977 240D to the crusher.
>I
>have accumulated a few spare parts during my fun filled period of
>ownership. If anyone could use them, email me at don.b...@gmail.com and
>I
>will send them your way. Much better than putting them into a landfill.
>I
>can FedEx them for pretty much nothing due to where I work. No cost on
>your
>part.
>
>Clatta-clatta no more.  :-(
>
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I love the 116. I hope to find a decent reasonable priced ‘80 at some point.  
They rust aweful bad though. 

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 6:32 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> 
>>> A 126 is far superior for sure unless you just like the 116.<<  
> 
> Having owned a 116 for over 20 years,  I respectfully disagree on several 
> counts.  The interior in the 126 tears and breaks down more than the 116.  
> The plastic around the sides hides rust and cheapens the look of a classic 
> vehicle.  The front headlights/park lights look too Japanese.  And having 
> driven both, I and my butt would prefer a 116.  Now to agree with you, the 
> mono valve is much better than the servo system.  Yes, I always yearned for a 
> 300SDL, but was leary of some of the reported motor issues.  The extra room 
> would have been welcomed by my long legs.
> 
> I hope you find the car you want.  I tend to think it would be a newer 
> year model.  By the way, my 116 still has the door on it that I got from you 
> many years ago.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Roger
> 
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> Monroe, Ga.
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[MBZ] the time has come

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

The time has come to send my crusty rusty old 1977 240D to the crusher. I
have accumulated a few spare parts during my fun filled period of
ownership. If anyone could use them, email me at don.b...@gmail.com and I
will send them your way. Much better than putting them into a landfill. I
can FedEx them for pretty much nothing due to where I work. No cost on your
part.

Clatta-clatta no more.  :-(

D.
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[MBZ] Another 116

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

>>A 126 is far superior for sure unless you just like the 116.<<  

 Having owned a 116 for over 20 years,  I respectfully disagree on several 
counts.  The interior in the 126 tears and breaks down more than the 116.  The 
plastic around the sides hides rust and cheapens the look of a classic vehicle. 
 The front headlights/park lights look too Japanese.  And having driven both, I 
and my butt would prefer a 116.  Now to agree with you, the mono valve is much 
better than the servo system.  Yes, I always yearned for a 300SDL, but was 
leary of some of the reported motor issues.  The extra room would have been 
welcomed by my long legs.

 I hope you find the car you want.  I tend to think it would be a newer 
year model.  By the way, my 116 still has the door on it that I got from you 
many years ago.

Best wishes,

Roger

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Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Over an earlier 617 powered 126? More power, about the same or better mileage, 
no valve adjustments needed, belt easier to mess with than the multiple belts 
on the 617, starts easier in cold weather, the car has updated trim that is 
nicer.

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:37:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> If wanting a 126 I would highly recommend a 300SDL with the 603, unless
>> you are in love with the 617 for some reason.
> 
> So why would you recommend the 300SDL?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD break calibers and petal

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Darn

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m gonna have both running fine soon so you might be too late. My friend 
> whose barn I am using had kinda taken a liking to the CD too...
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I need to come out there and haul it home along with the pos 210
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looked at this CD this afternoon, pulled off a wheel to see how brake stuff 
>>> looked. Disc looked ok but I’m thinking the calipers are pretty much 
>>> seized.  It didn’t move much over the last few years and when I did drive 
>>> it around everything was grinding. I’ll probably just get a set of remans 
>>> and hoses and pads and swap everything out. Last ones I bought for the TD 
>>> weren’t much if I recall so that would get it roadworthy and is not s very 
>>> hard job. The cylinder and boost seemed to work fine so that part is OK. 
>>> 
>>> Anyone with good thoughts on parts let me know. I saw where my bank has 
>>> some deal with Advance Auto for a discount, I’ll check the other flaps 
>>> around for coupons and rock auto too. You web surfers feel free to have at 
>>> it...
>>> 
>>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:37:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
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> If wanting a 126 I would highly recommend a 300SDL with the 603, unless
> you are in love with the 617 for some reason.

So why would you recommend the 300SDL?


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Re: [MBZ] 300CD break calibers and petal

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I’m gonna have both running fine soon so you might be too late. My friend whose 
barn I am using had kinda taken a liking to the CD too...

--R
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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need to come out there and haul it home along with the pos 210
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looked at this CD this afternoon, pulled off a wheel to see how brake stuff 
>> looked. Disc looked ok but I’m thinking the calipers are pretty much seized. 
>>  It didn’t move much over the last few years and when I did drive it around 
>> everything was grinding. I’ll probably just get a set of remans and hoses 
>> and pads and swap everything out. Last ones I bought for the TD weren’t much 
>> if I recall so that would get it roadworthy and is not s very hard job. The 
>> cylinder and boost seemed to work fine so that part is OK. 
>> 
>> Anyone with good thoughts on parts let me know. I saw where my bank has some 
>> deal with Advance Auto for a discount, I’ll check the other flaps around for 
>> coupons and rock auto too. You web surfers feel free to have at it...
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Sure that is a possibility but by now they have all pretty much been fixed. The 
original 14 heads are ok as long as you don’t get them hot, but that pretty 
much goes for any of the revisions either, don’t get them hot. My daily, well 
weekend, driver has a 14 head but Curley has it rebuilt I believe when he had 
it. 

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:37:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> A 126 is far superior for sure unless you just like the 116. If wanting
>> a 126 I would highly recommend a 300SDL with the 603, unless you are in
>> love with the 617 for some reason.
> 
> Doesn't the 603 have the cylinder head problems?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD break calibers and petal

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I need to come out there and haul it home along with the pos 210

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looked at this CD this afternoon, pulled off a wheel to see how brake stuff 
> looked. Disc looked ok but I’m thinking the calipers are pretty much seized.  
> It didn’t move much over the last few years and when I did drive it around 
> everything was grinding. I’ll probably just get a set of remans and hoses and 
> pads and swap everything out. Last ones I bought for the TD weren’t much if I 
> recall so that would get it roadworthy and is not s very hard job. The 
> cylinder and boost seemed to work fine so that part is OK. 
> 
> Anyone with good thoughts on parts let me know. I saw where my bank has some 
> deal with Advance Auto for a discount, I’ll check the other flaps around for 
> coupons and rock auto too. You web surfers feel free to have at it...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:37:17 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> A 126 is far superior for sure unless you just like the 116. If wanting
> a 126 I would highly recommend a 300SDL with the 603, unless you are in
> love with the 617 for some reason.

Doesn't the 603 have the cylinder head problems?


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[MBZ] Green Chevy for Kaleb

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Was Regina driving this one?
https://www.copart.com/lot/41167157
Might have been an interesting car before it caught fire. 
At least it's green, with saddle interior, and chrome bumpers.

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[MBZ] 300CD break calibers and petal

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Looked at this CD this afternoon, pulled off a wheel to see how brake stuff 
looked. Disc looked ok but I’m thinking the calipers are pretty much seized.  
It didn’t move much over the last few years and when I did drive it around 
everything was grinding. I’ll probably just get a set of remans and hoses and 
pads and swap everything out. Last ones I bought for the TD weren’t much if I 
recall so that would get it roadworthy and is not s very hard job. The cylinder 
and boost seemed to work fine so that part is OK. 

Anyone with good thoughts on parts let me know. I saw where my bank has some 
deal with Advance Auto for a discount, I’ll check the other flaps around for 
coupons and rock auto too. You web surfers feel free to have at it...

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Anyone remember when drivers were smart enough to adjust their own
temperature, actually move a lever to cause defrost or floor heat?

Ahhh so that's why they call them "the good old days". hmmm

On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is correct
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 4, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > According to Jaime, the crypsler is ACCII, as the 600 had the ACCI
> system, and our 85+ cars have ACCIII, the pushbutton system.
> >
> >> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> >> March 4, 2018 at 7:01 AM
> >> I know that the later HVAC ACC II systems are designed to default to
> defrost with any major fault of the control system, so I'd be suspicious of
> the main push button unit in the dash, but that may not be the case for
> this system. Somewhere I have a schematic for this system.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

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A 126 is far superior for sure unless you just like the 116. If wanting a 126 I 
would highly recommend a 300SDL with the 603, unless you are in love with the 
617 for some reason.

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:58:33 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On March 4, 2018 at 12:31 AM Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Farther away than the one Kaleb posted, but ...
>>> 
>>> https://farmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-benz-300sd/6491552594.html
>> 
>> You want a 116 or a 126?
> 
> A W126, I think.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

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Fake news.

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb wrote:
>> Mercedes 500sec
> 
> Houston? - don't we remember that whole region recently got flooded?
> It seems wise to wait for these flood cars to disappear?
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

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Kaleb wrote:
> Mercedes 500sec

Houston? - don't we remember that whole region recently got flooded?
It seems wise to wait for these flood cars to disappear?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That is correct 

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> According to Jaime, the crypsler is ACCII, as the 600 had the ACCI system, 
> and our 85+ cars have ACCIII, the pushbutton system.
> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> March 4, 2018 at 7:01 AM
>> I know that the later HVAC ACC II systems are designed to default to defrost 
>> with any major fault of the control system, so I'd be suspicious of the main 
>> push button unit in the dash, but that may not be the case for this system. 
>> Somewhere I have a schematic for this system.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

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On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:58:33 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> > On March 4, 2018 at 12:31 AM Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Farther away than the one Kaleb posted, but ...
> > 
> > https://farmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-benz-300sd/6491552594.html
> 
> You want a 116 or a 126?

A W126, I think.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

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It definitely came from the primer end (the wet powder gun is an inline not a 
sidelock) as the powder closest to the bullet was dry while the powder closest 
to the primer was wet. I made a blog entry on it: 
http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/
which was interestingly one of my most controversial blog posts when I put it 
on Facebook. I got a lot of guys who claimed I didn't know what I was doing, 
none of them actually have a CVA Buckhorn though. I've got an idea that 
somebody could make a rubber plug to go over the breech plug in the gun to seal 
the primer in better but in the end its just a cheap plastic stocked gun that I 
never really loved. The TC Renegade I bought to replace it has classic lines, 
nice wood and a larger diameter bore for bigger bullets and thus more powder, I 
just like it better. Typical story, the Renegade is what I should have gotten 
in the first place...

-Curt






On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 3:34:42 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





There are 3 companies who sell side locks from traditional patterns.  
You can always build one.

Regarding the wet powder, I think you said you did use one of the finger 
cots to cover the end of the barrel.  When I worked with a bunch of 
filipinos, I'd tease them about the finger cots being Filipino rubbers.  
Do you think the powder got wet from the nipple end of the barrel?

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> March 4, 2018 at 12:56 PM

> There were several of the Hawkens at the show in the $300-$500 range. For a 
> hunting gun I think the Renegade is as good a gun or better since its plain 
> Jane aspect won't be damaged in the field.
> Its sad that TC doesn't make traditional rifles anymore but I guess the 
> market has gone mostly in-line.
> -Curt
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Hi Larry,

CVA is an interesting company, they rode the black powder revival of the late 
'70s producing a number of different variants. They went bankrupt in the late 
'90s and reformed under the name Black Powder Industries (BPI) which is owned 
by Dakar of Spain who made a lot of the CVA guns.

Unfortunately they're kind of low end, in my shopping I was looking 
specifically for a TC because of their better reputation. I would have taken a 
CVA if I'd found one but I'd have wanted it in the $1500-$200 range and since I 
could get a TC for that price...
I looked around Gun Broker and it looks like the CVA Hawkens (Mountain Rifle is 
one name they used) are running $200-$400. I've got an over and under .50 
caliber that I overpaid for at $450.

As for shooting your gun you can make it kick as much as you want ;) 
The nice thing about a muzzle loader is that since you're hand loading you can 
tailor each load. BP is usually measured volumetricly, I'd start with 40 grains 
(which is really 40 grains equivalent) and work up from there if required. That 
should be a nice light load which ought to be good to about 50 yards with a 
round ball. Track of the Wolf can set you up with measures, balls and patches 
if you don't already have them.

One thing I do prefer from CVA is their powder flask as I've written about: 
http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/2017/10/powder-flasks.html although I see 
the Amazon link is now re-labled BPI...

-Curt






On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 3:12:16 PM EST, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





After my wife rec'd her Nursing License and started work around 1991 the 
1st thing she bought (for me) was a Hawken 50 Cal by Conn Valley.  It 
was a gun I always wanted and I guess I talked about it a lot.  Anyway, 
I really like it but have never fired it.  I suspect it works as it 
should though.  I need  to take it to the range one of these days to see 
how it shoots ;-)  Since it's a Black Powder gun I am hoping the recoil 
is mild - had to stop shooting my M-1 Garand because of the shock it 
gave my shoulder.

I should probably trim my collection a bit.  Based on the previous post 
I guess it's safe to assume the value of a 50 Hawken by CV is in the 
$300-$500 range?

LarryT

300D

06 E350


On 03/04/2018 1:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Correct. In the case of the Kentucky rifles (and many other guns for that 
> matter) the stock included the forearm and continued to the end (or nearly 
> the end) of the barrel. In the case of the Hawken the forearm stops part way 
> down the barrel.
> I was also wrong about the dates for the Hawken brothers, they started shop 
> around 1830.
> -Curt
>  
>
>      On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 7:51:12 AM EST, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>  
>  Nice!  Gun terms:  I thought the stock touched your shoulder and the forearm 
>runs along the barrel, so this rifle has a half-stock forearm?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There are 3 companies who sell side locks from traditional patterns.  
You can always build one.


Regarding the wet powder, I think you said you did use one of the finger 
cots to cover the end of the barrel.  When I worked with a bunch of 
filipinos, I'd tease them about the finger cots being Filipino rubbers.  
Do you think the powder got wet from the nipple end of the barrel?



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
March 4, 2018 at 12:56 PM
There were several of the Hawkens at the show in the $300-$500 range. For a 
hunting gun I think the Renegade is as good a gun or better since its plain 
Jane aspect won't be damaged in the field.
Its sad that TC doesn't make traditional rifles anymore but I guess the market 
has gone mostly in-line.
-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

After my wife rec'd her Nursing License and started work around 1991 the 
1st thing she bought (for me) was a Hawken 50 Cal by Conn Valley.  It 
was a gun I always wanted and I guess I talked about it a lot.  Anyway, 
I really like it but have never fired it.  I suspect it works as it 
should though.  I need  to take it to the range one of these days to see 
how it shoots ;-)  Since it's a Black Powder gun I am hoping the recoil 
is mild - had to stop shooting my M-1 Garand because of the shock it 
gave my shoulder.


I should probably trim my collection a bit.  Based on the previous post 
I guess it's safe to assume the value of a 50 Hawken by CV is in the 
$300-$500 range?


LarryT

300D

06 E350


On 03/04/2018 1:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Correct. In the case of the Kentucky rifles (and many other guns for that 
matter) the stock included the forearm and continued to the end (or nearly the 
end) of the barrel. In the case of the Hawken the forearm stops part way down 
the barrel.
I was also wrong about the dates for the Hawken brothers, they started shop 
around 1830.
-Curt
  


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 wrote:
  
  Nice!  Gun terms:  I thought the stock touched your shoulder and the forearm runs along the barrel, so this rifle has a half-stock forearm?


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

There were several of the Hawkens at the show in the $300-$500 range. For a 
hunting gun I think the Renegade is as good a gun or better since its plain 
Jane aspect won't be damaged in the field.
Its sad that TC doesn't make traditional rifles anymore but I guess the market 
has gone mostly in-line.
-Curt
 

On Sunday, March 4, 2018, 1:44:02 PM EST, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Nice!

That sounds like a very good price for that T/C.

I have the very same in the Hawken model I built from a kit. It's a beautiful 
rifle, and the lockwork is of excellent materials and engineering. T/C makes 
some very good stuff.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

Blast! Forgot to make the post plain text, for some reason the list and Yahoo 
don't get along unless I do.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpg







On Saturday, March 3, 2018, 9:22:50 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Fix your link - it’s got a run on.

Sounds cool.

-D


> On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Last weekend we went to "The Ancient Ones of Maine" gun show. Its mostly 
> focused on primitive or at least old timey guns. I had a bad time with my 
> modern in-line muzzle loader last fall during hunting season. Any snow or 
> rain that got anywhere near it would wet the powder and wet powder doesn't 
> work. I decided I'd invest in an old timey side-lock gun, my 16ga shotgun is 
> a side lock and I carried it through a rainy turkey season last year with no 
> wet powder so apparently I know how to make side lock guns stay dry.
> There were a bunch of good candidates at the show, I went in wanting a 54 
> caliber or larger. Theres no particular reason for that, the .45s I already 
> have would be adequate but go big or go home right?
> Finally found this: 
> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpgits a Thompson 
> Center Renegade, I paid $165. I don't think its been shot much, theres very 
> little powder staining on the stock and the bore is perfect. The Renegade is 
> in the half stock style popularized by the Hawken brothers in the 1820s or so 
> and commonly referred to with their name. TC made two similar models, the 
> Hawken and Renegade, the latter being more plain with iron hardware, little 
> engraving and no patch box.
> I really like it, the stock is fat and fits me well, it points good and has 
> good sights. I haven't shot it yet but I also scored several hundred 
> maxi-ball type bullets. This gun has a 1:48 twist rate which is fast enough 
> to stabilize a conical bullet but will still handle a round ball reasonably 
> well. The big bullets should do a number on deer and it we get a chance to 
> hunt moose again this would be my gun of choice.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Correct. In the case of the Kentucky rifles (and many other guns for that 
matter) the stock included the forearm and continued to the end (or nearly the 
end) of the barrel. In the case of the Hawken the forearm stops part way down 
the barrel.
I was also wrong about the dates for the Hawken brothers, they started shop 
around 1830.
-Curt
 

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 wrote:  
 
 Nice!  Gun terms:  I thought the stock touched your shoulder and the forearm 
runs along the barrel, so this rifle has a half-stock forearm?
-- 
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[MBZ] Fodo coupé

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

“Mercedes AMG is adding a 4-door coupe to the AMG GT lineup”

WTF is a “4-door” coupe?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Nice!

That sounds like a very good price for that T/C.

I have the very same in the Hawken model I built from a kit. It's a beautiful 
rifle, and the lockwork is of excellent materials and engineering. T/C makes 
some very good stuff.

Greg

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Blast! Forgot to make the post plain text, for some reason the list and Yahoo 
don't get along unless I do.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpg







On Saturday, March 3, 2018, 9:22:50 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Fix your link - it’s got a run on.

Sounds cool.

-D


> On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Last weekend we went to "The Ancient Ones of Maine" gun show. Its mostly 
> focused on primitive or at least old timey guns. I had a bad time with my 
> modern in-line muzzle loader last fall during hunting season. Any snow or 
> rain that got anywhere near it would wet the powder and wet powder doesn't 
> work. I decided I'd invest in an old timey side-lock gun, my 16ga shotgun is 
> a side lock and I carried it through a rainy turkey season last year with no 
> wet powder so apparently I know how to make side lock guns stay dry.
> There were a bunch of good candidates at the show, I went in wanting a 54 
> caliber or larger. Theres no particular reason for that, the .45s I already 
> have would be adequate but go big or go home right?
> Finally found this: 
> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpgits a Thompson 
> Center Renegade, I paid $165. I don't think its been shot much, theres very 
> little powder staining on the stock and the bore is perfect. The Renegade is 
> in the half stock style popularized by the Hawken brothers in the 1820s or so 
> and commonly referred to with their name. TC made two similar models, the 
> Hawken and Renegade, the latter being more plain with iron hardware, little 
> engraving and no patch box.
> I really like it, the stock is fat and fits me well, it points good and has 
> good sights. I haven't shot it yet but I also scored several hundred 
> maxi-ball type bullets. This gun has a 1:48 twist rate which is fast enough 
> to stabilize a conical bullet but will still handle a round ball reasonably 
> well. The big bullets should do a number on deer and it we get a chance to 
> hunt moose again this would be my gun of choice.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

On the hood or on the rest of the body?

I'd maybe give $700 for it just to have some coupe-specific bits to go 
with mine.  I wonder if it got a Harvey wash though...


--FT


On 3/3/18 9:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What is that color?

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 9:25 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


These are sort of hot on the market right now.  If you do a good Martha
and fix those seats, you could put it on BaT and make some bank.  You may
even have a compatible transmission in your collection of car.

clay

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Mar 3, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <

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Mercedes 500sec

https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-500sec/6509132907.html


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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

What is,a distributed cap?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 4, 2018 1:10 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes"  wrote:

> By looking at the pictures, I can just feel the love this car has had by
> it's present owner
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 5:53 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> > Those wheels and raised suspension appeal to a certain demographic, 
> > which doesn't include me!
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> >
> > On March 3, 2018 8:23:08 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > >
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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

[G Mann via Mercedes]

By looking at the pictures, I can just feel the love this car has had by
it's present owner


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Those wheels and raised suspension appeal to a certain demographic, 
> which doesn't include me!
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
>
> On March 3, 2018 8:23:08 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Mercedes 500sec
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Very nice rifle!

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Last weekend we went to "The Ancient Ones of Maine" gun show. Its mostly
> focused on primitive or at least old timey guns. I had a bad time with my
> modern in-line muzzle loader last fall during hunting season. Any snow or
> rain that got anywhere near it would wet the powder and wet powder doesn't
> work. I decided I'd invest in an old timey side-lock gun, my 16ga shotgun
> is a side lock and I carried it through a rainy turkey season last year
> with no wet powder so apparently I know how to make side lock guns stay dry.
> There were a bunch of good candidates at the show, I went in wanting a 54
> caliber or larger. Theres no particular reason for that, the .45s I already
> have would be adequate but go big or go home right?
> Finally found this: https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/
> 4713/39622927395_a2e72a0d88_b.jpgits a Thompson Center Renegade, I paid
> $165. I don't think its been shot much, theres very little powder staining
> on the stock and the bore is perfect. The Renegade is in the half stock
> style popularized by the Hawken brothers in the 1820s or so and commonly
> referred to with their name. TC made two similar models, the Hawken and
> Renegade, the latter being more plain with iron hardware, little engraving
> and no patch box.
> I really like it, the stock is fat and fits me well, it points good and
> has good sights. I haven't shot it yet but I also scored several hundred
> maxi-ball type bullets. This gun has a 1:48 twist rate which is fast enough
> to stabilize a conical bullet but will still handle a round ball reasonably
> well. The big bullets should do a number on deer and it we get a chance to
> hunt moose again this would be my gun of choice.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

According to Jaime, the crypsler is ACCII, as the 600 had the ACCI 
system, and our 85+ cars have ACCIII, the pushbutton system.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
March 4, 2018 at 7:01 AM
I know that the later HVAC ACC II systems are designed to default to 
defrost with any major fault of the control system, so I'd be 
suspicious of the main push button unit in the dash, but that may not 
be the case for this system. Somewhere I have a schematic for this system.




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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On March 4, 2018 at 12:31 AM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Farther away than the one Kaleb posted, but ...
> 
> https://farmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-benz-300sd/6491552594.html
> 
> 
> And then over in Arizona,
> 
> https://showlow.craigslist.org/cto/d/82-mercedes-300-sd/6504879184.html

You want a 116 or a 126?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

In mine, with the servo stuck and unable to park, it drew about 400mA at rest, 
so it would kill the battery in a couple of days until I pulled the fuse (I 
think it was inline, not in the fuse box) to kill the climate control. 
Mitch.

> On March 4, 2018 at 12:25 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Plan on buying and installing the electronic conversion for the crypsler 
> ACC   I've avoided those things like the Plague (they are) so I have no 
> exerience, but I think the defrost only means that the servo is stuck.

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[MBZ] Nice 116

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Well, I'll try to relate to my experience:


I asked him about the heat and A/C.
He said the A/C doesn't work.
This could be one or more of several things:  fuses, compressor, low on 
Freon, or the servo.<<<
He started the car and said that
the heat had defrost only.
This could simply be a fuse, I've had that or one of the vac modules, don't 
really need to pull the dash.  When the system fails, it defaults to 
defrost just like the new cars as you need defrost at least to see to 
drive.<<<
He said the engine runs great,
but puts out black smoke when it's cold.
This is usually the valve adjustment or the IP or the glow plugs not 
getting hot enough.  Not a big concern.
He said he never paid attention to the fuel mileage.
I always got around 24 around town and 28-30 on the highway.  Great highway 
car! <
He said he put in a used transmission after replacing the seals.
He said it works well.

The tranny can go bad on these.  I ran mine with a flair between 3-4 for 
over 12 years.  Finally stopped shifting out of 1st.  I put in a used with 
95K on it and it's fine now.  The original went about 420,000 miles.<

 The servo can be a PITA.  I got rebuilt ones from George Murphy.  I've 
gone through several over the 20+ years.  I got so I could replace it in less 
than 30 minutes, simple job.  I don't drive mine much these days and basically 
have it in storage.  I'll need a new compressor when a start driving again.  
I'll probably buy one of the eBay kits and have my Indie do the job.

Hope this helps.  The car looks pretty good on the surface.  Offer maybe $2500, 
these old girls are becoming scarce.

Best wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

81

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 8:02 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 08:05:53 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Those are 126, not 116.
> 
> When was the transition to W126?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 08:05:53 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Those are 126, not 116.

When was the transition to W126?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

These Michelins now on the SD are Brit-made so not-quite-yurpeen. 

I’m starting to think the left front suspension has gone wonky. I rebuilt the 
suspension maybe 4 or 5 years ago and got it aligned. I’m wondering if the 
rubber bits in the control arms have squeezed or deteriorated or something 
letting the tire wobble a bit which caused the edge wear and belt delamination 
at the edges. Or if the eccentric bolt loosened. I vaguely remember they didn’t 
get one properly tightened in the initial alignment so I guess that is possible 
and the camber is out of whack. That would probably need to be checked in an 
alignment. 

--FT
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> On Mar 3, 2018, at 11:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had cooper CS4 on the van, and I thought they slipped belts pretty early, 
> but when I checked the miles on them, they had around 50k.  So for the price 
> I guess they were ok.  I just wish I could find tars that didn't slip belts 
> all the time.  With any tires I had msde in Yurp, other than Michelin, I have 
> never had slipped belts.  The frog michelins slipped belts too.  My 
> preference was always German made Continentals.  I am still curious about how 
> the Barums hold up.  Just put a pair on the 300D.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Curley can’t drive 

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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe the slipped belt problem is not the tires, but the conditions or the 
> driver(s)?
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> 
>> On March 3, 2018 11:34:46 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I had cooper CS4 on the van, and I thought they slipped belts pretty 
>> early, but when I checked the miles on them, they had around 50k.  So 
>> for the price I guess they were ok.  I just wish I could find tars that
>> 
>> didn't slip belts all the time.  With any tires I had msde in Yurp, 
>> other than Michelin, I have never had slipped belts.  The frog
>> michelins 
>> slipped belts too.  My preference was always German made Continentals. 
>> 
>> I am still curious about how the Barums hold up.  Just put a pair on
>> the 
>> 300D.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The servo does everything. It controls the coolant flow, it turns the 
compressor on and off, it controls the vacuum to the flaps. It and the cc amp 
control control the whole system. 

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> On Mar 3, 2018, at 11:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2018 22:01:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> 2k tops. At the money he is asking it should be in top shape with
>> everything working 
> 
> With the A/C not working, it could be:
> 
>- the compressor,
>- the condenser,
>- the evaporator,
>- the expansion valve,
>- bad o-rings some place, or,
>- bad hoses.
> 
> I think the heat going only on defrost would be related to the Chrysler
> servo. What does that servo do?
> 
> Does this have the mono-valve that is hard to get diaphragms for? Would
> the vacuum-operated dashpots, the fixing of which would require removing
> the dash, be a cause of the heat not going elsewhere?
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 3 Mar 2018 19:51:18 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 It’s probably worth 3k if it doesn’t have rust. I would prefer closer
 to 2 though 
>>> 
>>> OK.
>>> 
>>> I called the fellow.
>>> 
>>> He said he hasn't driven it for a while, so its characteristics are
>>> not front-most in his mind.
>>> 
>>> I asked him about the heat and A/C.
>>>   He said the A/C doesn't work.
>>> 
>>> He started the car and said that
>>>   the heat had defrost only.
>>> 
>>> He said the engine runs great,
>>>   but puts out black smoke when it's cold.
>>> 
>>> He said he never paid attention to the fuel mileage.
>>> 
>>> He said he put in a used transmission after replacing the seals.
>>>   He said it works well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So what y'all think?
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Re: [MBZ] Another 116

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Those are 126, not 116.
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'95 E300

On March 4, 2018 12:31:24 AM EST, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Farther away than the one Kaleb posted, but ...
>
>https://farmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/1981-mercedes-benz-300sd/6491552594.html
>
>
>And then over in Arizona,
>
>https://showlow.craigslist.org/cto/d/82-mercedes-300-sd/6504879184.html
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>
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe the slipped belt problem is not the tires, but the conditions or the 
driver(s)?
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 3, 2018 11:34:46 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I had cooper CS4 on the van, and I thought they slipped belts pretty 
>early, but when I checked the miles on them, they had around 50k.  So 
>for the price I guess they were ok.  I just wish I could find tars that
>
>didn't slip belts all the time.  With any tires I had msde in Yurp, 
>other than Michelin, I have never had slipped belts.  The frog
>michelins 
>slipped belts too.  My preference was always German made Continentals. 
>
>I am still curious about how the Barums hold up.  Just put a pair on
>the 
>300D.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 116

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I know that the later HVAC ACC II systems are designed to default to defrost 
with any major fault of the control system, so I'd be suspicious of the main 
push button unit in the dash, but that may not be the case for this system.  
Somewhere I have a schematic for this system.
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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth messing with

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Those wheels and raised suspension appeal to a certain demographic,  which 
doesn't include me!
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 3, 2018 8:23:08 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Mercedes 500sec
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>https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-500sec/6509132907.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New gun

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice!  Gun terms:  I thought the stock touched your shoulder and the forearm 
runs along the barrel, so this rifle has a half-stock forearm?
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