Re: [MBZ] 1992 500SL - 113k miles - $2,500

2022-05-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Why is it on a flatbed?

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On May 30, 2022, at 9:54 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't start, no title.
> 
> "No games. If you want it, come buy it."
> 
> https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-mercedes-500-sl-convertible/7489986029.html
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[MBZ] 1992 500SL - 113k miles - $2,500

2022-05-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Doesn't start, no title.

"No games. If you want it, come buy it."

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-mercedes-500-sl-convertible/7489986029.html
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[MBZ] 1991 350SDL - 247k miles - $7,400

2022-05-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I guess if it's made it to almost 250k miles, it probably doesn't have bent 
rods.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-1991-mercedes-350-sdl/7490124061.html
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax reports

2022-05-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

This one is about $8 a month for unlimited reports.

On 5/30/2022 8:30 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

That Russian site with the sales records will do one for $3

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On May 30, 2022, at 9:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The software I use at work has an integration with Carfax.  I used to be able 
to go into a car deal in the system and add a trade and pull a carfax on it.  
In the last couple of weeks a few of you have asked me to pull reports and it 
no longer appear to work.  If I go into a deal a dealer is working that has a 
trade it lets me pull the report, but for some reason will not let me pull one 
on a car I add.  I can't figure out why.  Anyway, I bought a subscription to a 
provider called Bumper.  It is a 3 month unlimited subscription for around $26 
I think.  I have attached a report from a random Copart car so you can see what 
info they pull.  Does not appear they pull repair records but do pull sale data 
which is interesting.  Anyway, if you have recently asked me for a report that 
I could not provide, feel free to send me the VIN and I will send you the 
report. If you are just randomly wanting me to run the VIN on every car you 
own, you might be out of luck on that. I may consider keeping the subscription 
going but folks might need to start contributing some funds to help support 
running the lists etc.


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Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

2022-05-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I went with mortgage company affiliate insurance once. Put the cars on it as 
well for an even better deal. It was cheap, but two months in I could not get 
them to give me insurance cards for the cars or even a clear list of what our 
coverages were. I got fed up and went back to State Farm.


On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 3:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Heh. Don’t come to Florida. That’s the first thing they’ll go after. If 
> you’ve got a roof that’s more than about 10-12 years old you’ll have a 
> tough time getting a policy.
>
> The roof on the Flagstaff house is 20 years old and definitely worn. 
> It’s asphalt shingles and a relatively low pitch. They definitely have 
> some wear and are getting brittle. We knew this when we bought the 
> place and fully expected to have to put a roof on in the next 2-3 years 
> anyway.
>
> This is only one of a number of reasons the insurance company booted 
> us. We screwed up and went cheap, through a value-added service our 
> long time mortgage broker offered. The policy was with “Hippo”, a 
> totally online home insurer. They were easily $600 less than Allstate, 
> our insurer of first resort. We’re talking $1800 vs. $1200. I should 
> have known something was fishy here.
>
> About 3-4 months ago I got a copy of their underwriter’s report. I read 
> through it line by line and realized when I was done that this didn’t 
> even sound like our house. It wasn’t minor stuff, it was things like 
> them saying it was slab-on-grade when it’s on a foundation with a crawl 
> space. They didn’t even list the garage or note that it had living 
> space (casita) in it.
>
> I made a list of discrepancies and called them. Had to leave a message 
> with a customer service person, as I wasn’t allowed to speak to anyone 
> in underwriting. About two weeks later I get a call from someone in 
> Underwriting, and they told me they corrected some of the discrepancies 
> I pointed out, but the rest were “minor” issues I “shouldn’t worry 
> about”. Yeah, that gave me the warm fuzzies, for sure.
>
> So this morning I get an email from them with a non-renewal notice:
>
> "Stairs, porches or decks without a properly installed railing does not 
> meet underwriting eligibility. General condition of roof does not meet 
> underwriting eligibility. Unable to verify that the major systems of 
> the home have been updated.”
>
> There are steps to the side door of the house made of pavers, 
> professionally done by the PO, but there’s no handrail. Think 180 
> degree 6” rise steps against the exterior wall, four or five high, I 
> think. Yeah, I’ll give them the roof. “Unable to verify major systems”? 
> They never inspected the house or even asked to. HVAC, plumbing, 
> electrical, all redone.
>
> They screwed up and pooched this one, so they’re bailing. It’s that 
> simple. And that’s no doubt why they were so cheap, too. That’s on me, 
> I should have known better.
>
> So tomorrow morning I’ll call our Allstate agent in Flagstaff.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 30, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Never heard of insurance canceling because of the age of the roof. I've also 
>> had roofs redone a couple of times and never informed the insurance company.
>> 
>> Who is your insurance with?
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 3:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The solar co-op in Flagstaff has already contacted me and said my 
>>> property looks like a good candidate. I think not based on my knowledge 
>>> of the trees and where the sun falls throughout the day on the roof of 
>>> the house. That said, my (detached) garage has a very clear view of the 
>>> sky through most of the day, so that’s always a possibility.
>>> 
>>> Looks like a new roof is in my future anyway, as I just got a notice of 
>>> cancellation from my homeowner’s insurance company this morning. One of 
>>> the reasons they cited was the age of my roof. What’s funny is that 
>>> they were falling all over themselves wanting to insure me when I 
>>> bought the house. I saw the underwriting statement and the description 
>>> wasn’t anything like my house - they described it as a slab on grade 
>>> (foundation with a crawl) the square footage was wrong and it didn’t 
>>> even mention my detached garage. I brought this to their attention 
>>> about a month ago when I saw the underwriter’s report. They called me 
>>> up and explained that they would be changing the report to reflect the 
>>> property as it was built.
>>> 
>>> Probably why they booted me. Jerks.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 30, 2022, at 3:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I have the typical gabled roof, 6/12 pitch except over the front porch, 
 and the peak runs roughly north/south. So half the roof gets sun in the 
 morning, the other half gets sun in the afternoon.
 
 To get sun all day I'd have to put solar panels on a separate support 
 structure in the back yard. No matter where I

[MBZ] Teenage American Spitfire pilot

2022-05-30 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

Unarmed reconnaissance flights over Germany.
Special teen enlisted pilot program in Army Air Corps.
They painted recon planes sky blue and carried extra fuel instead of 
guns and ammo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie3SrjLlcUY

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Re: [MBZ] OT: anyone using an under-counter water filter?

2022-05-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We have a Multi-Pure https://www.multipure.com/products/drinking-water-systems/
Just a single stage, I think multi-stage would be most useful if you had 
turbidity which we don't. I change the filter every year and a half to 2 years 
when the water flow slows down enough to be annoying.

It was expensive but the filter container and mount is stainless as is the 
spout on the sink, I don't think it'll never need replacing. I use discount CB6 
filters I find online, they all seem to be about the same.

-Curt


On Sunday, May 29, 2022, 04:30:03 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I've used a pitcher-type filter for a few years for drinking water and making 
coffee, etc. but thinking of installing an under-counter filter along the lines 
of this:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/A-O-Smith-Clean-Water-Filter-Dual-Stage-Carbon-Block-Under-Sink-Water-Filtration-System/1000562057

This would eliminate the pitchers sitting on the counter and seems more 
practical. A whole-house filter seems unnecessary, as nearly all the water we 
use for drinking and cooking comes from the kitchen sink.

Anyone using one you are happy with? Single stage? Double? Triple?

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Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

2022-05-30 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Heh. Don’t come to Florida. That’s the first thing they’ll go after. If you’ve 
got a roof that’s more than about 10-12 years old you’ll have a tough time 
getting a policy.

The roof on the Flagstaff house is 20 years old and definitely worn. It’s 
asphalt shingles and a relatively low pitch. They definitely have some wear and 
are getting brittle. We knew this when we bought the place and fully expected 
to have to put a roof on in the next 2-3 years anyway.

This is only one of a number of reasons the insurance company booted us. We 
screwed up and went cheap, through a value-added service our long time mortgage 
broker offered. The policy was with “Hippo”, a totally online home insurer. 
They were easily $600 less than Allstate, our insurer of first resort. We’re 
talking $1800 vs. $1200. I should have known something was fishy here.

About 3-4 months ago I got a copy of their underwriter’s report. I read through 
it line by line and realized when I was done that this didn’t even sound like 
our house. It wasn’t minor stuff, it was things like them saying it was 
slab-on-grade when it’s on a foundation with a crawl space. They didn’t even 
list the garage or note that it had living space (casita) in it.

I made a list of discrepancies and called them. Had to leave a message with a 
customer service person, as I wasn’t allowed to speak to anyone in 
underwriting. About two weeks later I get a call from someone in Underwriting, 
and they told me they corrected some of the discrepancies I pointed out, but 
the rest were “minor” issues I “shouldn’t worry about”. Yeah, that gave me the 
warm fuzzies, for sure.

So this morning I get an email from them with a non-renewal notice:

"Stairs, porches or decks without a properly installed railing does not meet 
underwriting eligibility. General condition of roof does not meet underwriting 
eligibility. Unable to verify that the major systems of the home have been 
updated.”

There are steps to the side door of the house made of pavers, professionally 
done by the PO, but there’s no handrail. Think 180 degree 6” rise steps against 
the exterior wall, four or five high, I think. Yeah, I’ll give them the roof. 
“Unable to verify major systems”? They never inspected the house or even asked 
to. HVAC, plumbing, electrical, all redone.

They screwed up and pooched this one, so they’re bailing. It’s that simple. And 
that’s no doubt why they were so cheap, too. That’s on me, I should have known 
better.

So tomorrow morning I’ll call our Allstate agent in Flagstaff.

-D

> On May 30, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Never heard of insurance canceling because of the age of the roof. I've also 
> had roofs redone a couple of times and never informed the insurance company.
> 
> Who is your insurance with?
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 3:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> The solar co-op in Flagstaff has already contacted me and said my 
>> property looks like a good candidate. I think not based on my knowledge 
>> of the trees and where the sun falls throughout the day on the roof of 
>> the house. That said, my (detached) garage has a very clear view of the 
>> sky through most of the day, so that’s always a possibility.
>> 
>> Looks like a new roof is in my future anyway, as I just got a notice of 
>> cancellation from my homeowner’s insurance company this morning. One of 
>> the reasons they cited was the age of my roof. What’s funny is that 
>> they were falling all over themselves wanting to insure me when I 
>> bought the house. I saw the underwriting statement and the description 
>> wasn’t anything like my house - they described it as a slab on grade 
>> (foundation with a crawl) the square footage was wrong and it didn’t 
>> even mention my detached garage. I brought this to their attention 
>> about a month ago when I saw the underwriter’s report. They called me 
>> up and explained that they would be changing the report to reflect the 
>> property as it was built.
>> 
>> Probably why they booted me. Jerks.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2022, at 3:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the typical gabled roof, 6/12 pitch except over the front porch, and 
>>> the peak runs roughly north/south. So half the roof gets sun in the 
>>> morning, the other half gets sun in the afternoon.
>>> 
>>> To get sun all day I'd have to put solar panels on a separate support 
>>> structure in the back yard. No matter where I put them I'd have to cut down 
>>> trees if I wanted to maximize exposure.
>>> 
>>> I'd much rather just pay the REMC one or two hundred a month or so.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 Yeah but not where the panels would need to be. It’s a conundrum 
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On May 30, 2022, at 2:13 PM, MG via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Don't you need a nice large roofed over area to keep your cars under?
>>>

Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

2022-05-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Never heard of insurance canceling because of the age of the roof. I've also 
had roofs redone a couple of times and never informed the insurance company.

Who is your insurance with?


On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 3:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> The solar co-op in Flagstaff has already contacted me and said my 
> property looks like a good candidate. I think not based on my knowledge 
> of the trees and where the sun falls throughout the day on the roof of 
> the house. That said, my (detached) garage has a very clear view of the 
> sky through most of the day, so that’s always a possibility.
>
> Looks like a new roof is in my future anyway, as I just got a notice of 
> cancellation from my homeowner’s insurance company this morning. One of 
> the reasons they cited was the age of my roof. What’s funny is that 
> they were falling all over themselves wanting to insure me when I 
> bought the house. I saw the underwriting statement and the description 
> wasn’t anything like my house - they described it as a slab on grade 
> (foundation with a crawl) the square footage was wrong and it didn’t 
> even mention my detached garage. I brought this to their attention 
> about a month ago when I saw the underwriter’s report. They called me 
> up and explained that they would be changing the report to reflect the 
> property as it was built.
>
> Probably why they booted me. Jerks.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 30, 2022, at 3:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the typical gabled roof, 6/12 pitch except over the front porch, and 
>> the peak runs roughly north/south. So half the roof gets sun in the morning, 
>> the other half gets sun in the afternoon.
>> 
>> To get sun all day I'd have to put solar panels on a separate support 
>> structure in the back yard. No matter where I put them I'd have to cut down 
>> trees if I wanted to maximize exposure.
>> 
>> I'd much rather just pay the REMC one or two hundred a month or so.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yeah but not where the panels would need to be. It’s a conundrum 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On May 30, 2022, at 2:13 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Don't you need a nice large roofed over area to keep your cars under?
 
 When I did mine the cost of the 24x32 south angled solar support structure 
 was included in the gov rebates. Also happens to keep the rain off the 
 cars or any projects I am working on.
 
 MG
 
 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> I have a philosophical aversion to making decisions based on tax credits 
> or anything involving gummint "help."
> A friend of mine was all excited a few weeks ago about getting solar 
> panels on his roof, tax credits and all that. He is a world-class 
> ecologist and ocean researcher so he is into the environmental aspects of 
> the schemes.  Whatever.  I popped by the other day to pick up something 
> and he was lamenting the whole thing, the contractor (sourced through the 
> electric company) was completely incompetent, etc. so he sent them on 
> their way.  The whole thing is on hold.
> Another buddy apparently has a system installed now and is waiting for a 
> Tesla battery to provide some stand-alone capacity in the event of power 
> outage.  I was over there recently but it was dark and I didn't see the 
> install.
> I have been thinking once I move to my more rural estate I might do some 
> solar but it would likely require a solar "farm" i.e., free-standing 
> panels on some racks or something because of the layout of the estate.  
> But then I think about a tank of fuel with a generator to run things and 
> that seems a better deal.
> --FT
>> On 5/27/22 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good 
>> financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. 
>> That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this.
>>> 1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you
>>> would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and 
>>> install of
>>> the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, 
>>> $15,000.
>>> 2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert
>>> cost per sq. ft of house area.]
>>> 3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated $8 
>>> to
>>> $10,000, with cables and racks.
>>> 4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and 
>>> inverter
>>> to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment.
>>> Which g

Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

2022-05-30 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
The solar co-op in Flagstaff has already contacted me and said my property 
looks like a good candidate. I think not based on my knowledge of the trees and 
where the sun falls throughout the day on the roof of the house. That said, my 
(detached) garage has a very clear view of the sky through most of the day, so 
that’s always a possibility.

Looks like a new roof is in my future anyway, as I just got a notice of 
cancellation from my homeowner’s insurance company this morning. One of the 
reasons they cited was the age of my roof. What’s funny is that they were 
falling all over themselves wanting to insure me when I bought the house. I saw 
the underwriting statement and the description wasn’t anything like my house - 
they described it as a slab on grade (foundation with a crawl) the square 
footage was wrong and it didn’t even mention my detached garage. I brought this 
to their attention about a month ago when I saw the underwriter’s report. They 
called me up and explained that they would be changing the report to reflect 
the property as it was built.

Probably why they booted me. Jerks.

-D

> On May 30, 2022, at 3:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have the typical gabled roof, 6/12 pitch except over the front porch, and 
> the peak runs roughly north/south. So half the roof gets sun in the morning, 
> the other half gets sun in the afternoon.
> 
> To get sun all day I'd have to put solar panels on a separate support 
> structure in the back yard. No matter where I put them I'd have to cut down 
> trees if I wanted to maximize exposure.
> 
> I'd much rather just pay the REMC one or two hundred a month or so.
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah but not where the panels would need to be. It’s a conundrum 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2022, at 2:13 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't you need a nice large roofed over area to keep your cars under?
>>> 
>>> When I did mine the cost of the 24x32 south angled solar support structure 
>>> was included in the gov rebates. Also happens to keep the rain off the cars 
>>> or any projects I am working on.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 I have a philosophical aversion to making decisions based on tax credits 
 or anything involving gummint "help."
 A friend of mine was all excited a few weeks ago about getting solar 
 panels on his roof, tax credits and all that. He is a world-class 
 ecologist and ocean researcher so he is into the environmental aspects of 
 the schemes.  Whatever.  I popped by the other day to pick up something 
 and he was lamenting the whole thing, the contractor (sourced through the 
 electric company) was completely incompetent, etc. so he sent them on 
 their way.  The whole thing is on hold.
 Another buddy apparently has a system installed now and is waiting for a 
 Tesla battery to provide some stand-alone capacity in the event of power 
 outage.  I was over there recently but it was dark and I didn't see the 
 install.
 I have been thinking once I move to my more rural estate I might do some 
 solar but it would likely require a solar "farm" i.e., free-standing 
 panels on some racks or something because of the layout of the estate.  
 But then I think about a tank of fuel with a generator to run things and 
 that seems a better deal.
 --FT
> On 5/27/22 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good 
> financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. 
> That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this.
>> 1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you
>> would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and install 
>> of
>> the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, 
>> $15,000.
>> 2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert
>> cost per sq. ft of house area.]
>> 3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated $8 to
>> $10,000, with cables and racks.
>> 4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and inverter
>> to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment.
>> Which gives rise to the question: "Does $8 per gallon for diesel sound so
>> bad in comparison, or are you truly committed to "Go Green via an EV"?
>> 
>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 7:20 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security
>>> issues associated with lithiu

Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I preferred sub $2 gas. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s all going well, I’m really pleased with how things are getting better. 
> It’s what I was hoping for. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On May 30, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I liked it the way it was before.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

2022-05-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I have the typical gabled roof, 6/12 pitch except over the front porch, and the 
peak runs roughly north/south. So half the roof gets sun in the morning, the 
other half gets sun in the afternoon.

To get sun all day I'd have to put solar panels on a separate support structure 
in the back yard. No matter where I put them I'd have to cut down trees if I 
wanted to maximize exposure.

I'd much rather just pay the REMC one or two hundred a month or so.


On Mon, May 30, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah but not where the panels would need to be. It’s a conundrum 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On May 30, 2022, at 2:13 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't you need a nice large roofed over area to keep your cars under?
>> 
>> When I did mine the cost of the 24x32 south angled solar support structure 
>> was included in the gov rebates. Also happens to keep the rain off the cars 
>> or any projects I am working on.
>> 
>> MG
>> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have a philosophical aversion to making decisions based on tax credits or 
>>> anything involving gummint "help."
>>> A friend of mine was all excited a few weeks ago about getting solar panels 
>>> on his roof, tax credits and all that. He is a world-class ecologist and 
>>> ocean researcher so he is into the environmental aspects of the schemes.  
>>> Whatever.  I popped by the other day to pick up something and he was 
>>> lamenting the whole thing, the contractor (sourced through the electric 
>>> company) was completely incompetent, etc. so he sent them on their way.  
>>> The whole thing is on hold.
>>> Another buddy apparently has a system installed now and is waiting for a 
>>> Tesla battery to provide some stand-alone capacity in the event of power 
>>> outage.  I was over there recently but it was dark and I didn't see the 
>>> install.
>>> I have been thinking once I move to my more rural estate I might do some 
>>> solar but it would likely require a solar "farm" i.e., free-standing panels 
>>> on some racks or something because of the layout of the estate.  But then I 
>>> think about a tank of fuel with a generator to run things and that seems a 
>>> better deal.
>>> --FT
 On 5/27/22 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good 
 financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. 
 That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems.
 
 -D
 
> On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this.
> 1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you
> would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and install 
> of
> the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, 
> $15,000.
> 2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert
> cost per sq. ft of house area.]
> 3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated $8 to
> $10,000, with cables and racks.
> 4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and inverter
> to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment.
> Which gives rise to the question: "Does $8 per gallon for diesel sound so
> bad in comparison, or are you truly committed to "Go Green via an EV"?
> 
> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 7:20 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security
>> issues associated with lithium batteries and PV panels, I like the idea 
>> of
>> a garage with PV panels to charge your car. Of course you would need
>> storage batteries in your garage to collect and store the electrons from
>> solar photons so you can charge your car at night. The whole process 
>> should
>> be on the order of maybe 8% efficient if you’re lucky.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On May 27, 2022, at 4:31 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> When I first heard of ZEVs, I thought "Oh, you mean Remote Emissions
>> Vehicles".
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
 On 2022-05-26 17:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 And I don’t want to start the back and forth up, but the electricity
 to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and it’s likely
 generated using fossil fuels at present.
 So the emissions are going to come from somewhere in the process, just
 not from a tailpipe on the car in this case.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

2022-05-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah but not where the panels would need to be. It’s a conundrum 

--FT
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> On May 30, 2022, at 2:13 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Don't you need a nice large roofed over area to keep your cars under?
> 
> When I did mine the cost of the 24x32 south angled solar support structure 
> was included in the gov rebates. Also happens to keep the rain off the cars 
> or any projects I am working on.
> 
> MG
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have a philosophical aversion to making decisions based on tax credits or 
>> anything involving gummint "help."
>> A friend of mine was all excited a few weeks ago about getting solar panels 
>> on his roof, tax credits and all that. He is a world-class ecologist and 
>> ocean researcher so he is into the environmental aspects of the schemes.  
>> Whatever.  I popped by the other day to pick up something and he was 
>> lamenting the whole thing, the contractor (sourced through the electric 
>> company) was completely incompetent, etc. so he sent them on their way.  The 
>> whole thing is on hold.
>> Another buddy apparently has a system installed now and is waiting for a 
>> Tesla battery to provide some stand-alone capacity in the event of power 
>> outage.  I was over there recently but it was dark and I didn't see the 
>> install.
>> I have been thinking once I move to my more rural estate I might do some 
>> solar but it would likely require a solar "farm" i.e., free-standing panels 
>> on some racks or something because of the layout of the estate.  But then I 
>> think about a tank of fuel with a generator to run things and that seems a 
>> better deal.
>> --FT
>>> On 5/27/22 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good 
>>> financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. 
>>> That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this.
 1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you
 would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and install of
 the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, $15,000.
 2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert
 cost per sq. ft of house area.]
 3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated $8 to
 $10,000, with cables and racks.
 4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and inverter
 to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment.
 Which gives rise to the question: "Does $8 per gallon for diesel sound so
 bad in comparison, or are you truly committed to "Go Green via an EV"?
 
 On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 7:20 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security
> issues associated with lithium batteries and PV panels, I like the idea of
> a garage with PV panels to charge your car. Of course you would need
> storage batteries in your garage to collect and store the electrons from
> solar photons so you can charge your car at night. The whole process 
> should
> be on the order of maybe 8% efficient if you’re lucky.
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On May 27, 2022, at 4:31 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> When I first heard of ZEVs, I thought "Oh, you mean Remote Emissions
> Vehicles".
>> Mitch.
>> 
>>> On 2022-05-26 17:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> And I don’t want to start the back and forth up, but the electricity
>>> to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and it’s likely
>>> generated using fossil fuels at present.
>>> So the emissions are going to come from somewhere in the process, just
>>> not from a tailpipe on the car in this case.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
It’s all going well, I’m really pleased with how things are getting better. 
It’s what I was hoping for. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On May 30, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I liked it the way it was before.

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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I think I liked it the way it was before. 

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> On May 30, 2022, at 12:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Railroad cars full of diesel, DEF, and gasoline.
> Pilot is a huge company that dominates the trucking industry coast to coast
> with billion$ in sales per year. What I do not understand are the metrics
> of the railroad cutting off scheduled shipments of tank car loads of
> diesel, DEF, Gasoline, Biodiesel, Ethanol, and engine oils to Pilot.
> Since the railroads really only can function because of government
> subsidies, the question needs to be raised "Who is pulling the railroads
> strings behind the scenes to make this happen?"
> No DEF, your fleet of $500,000 trucks sit at the side of the road with
> trailers full of supply chain products that don't get delivered.. etc etc
> etc... repeat for each item not delivered as scheduled by railroad..
> There is a point where the excuse of executive ignorance fails and the
> claim of deliberate acts to cause harm becomes valid... That is a question
> not asked or answered, at the moment.
> 
>> On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 9:48 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure I understand what they are complaining about. The guy talks about
>> “cars” being shipped, is he speaking of rail cars of fuel? I didn’t listen
>> to the whole thing, but I didn’t quite understand what he was explaining.
>> 
>> Someone want to enlighten me?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1E2kw7h9zIAP1a1H20ajbQEaWuDkEm18ftWFZZmAhwuMG5QMOZ7XyKM_U&v=P7EFCIOwexg&feature=youtu.be&fs=e&s=cl
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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yes. People better wake up to what we have going on. 

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> On May 30, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The railroad is cutting shipments by 25-50%. Over 70% of commercial DEF is 
> shipped by rail.
> 
> That's bad.
> 
> Real bad.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: May 30, 2022 11:48 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages
> 
> Not sure I understand what they are complaining about. The guy talks about 
> “cars” being shipped, is he speaking of rail cars of fuel? I didn’t listen to 
> the whole thing, but I didn’t quite understand what he was explaining.
> 
> Someone want to enlighten me?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 30, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1E2kw7h9zIAP1a1H20ajbQEaWuDkEm18ftWFZZmAhwuMG5QMOZ7XyKM_U&v=P7EFCIOwexg&feature=youtu.be&fs=e&s=cl
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Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker -- 2000 Mercedes E-320 Wagon Excellent Condition - $14, 000 (Charleston, SC)

2022-05-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Honey you need to sell that car. Ok dear I’ll put it up on cl and see what 
happens 

--FT
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> On May 29, 2022, at 1:22 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-05-29 12:26, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2000-mercedes-320-wagon/7489595022.html
> 
> For a 100,000 miles 320 2Matic with scuffed bumpers?
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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
They are being shorted train car loads of fuel and DEF. Get ready for even 
higher fuel prices. 

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> On May 30, 2022, at 11:48 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not sure I understand what they are complaining about. The guy talks about 
> “cars” being shipped, is he speaking of rail cars of fuel? I didn’t listen to 
> the whole thing, but I didn’t quite understand what he was explaining.
> 
> Someone want to enlighten me?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 30, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR1E2kw7h9zIAP1a1H20ajbQEaWuDkEm18ftWFZZmAhwuMG5QMOZ7XyKM_U&v=P7EFCIOwexg&feature=youtu.be&fs=e&s=cl
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Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

2022-05-30 Thread MG via Mercedes
Don't you need a nice large roofed over area to 
keep your cars under?


When I did mine the cost of the 24x32 south angled 
solar support structure was included in the gov 
rebates. Also happens to keep the rain off the 
cars or any projects I am working on.


MG

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I have a philosophical aversion to making decisions based on tax credits 
or anything involving gummint "help."


A friend of mine was all excited a few weeks ago about getting solar 
panels on his roof, tax credits and all that. He is a world-class 
ecologist and ocean researcher so he is into the environmental aspects 
of the schemes.  Whatever.  I popped by the other day to pick up 
something and he was lamenting the whole thing, the contractor (sourced 
through the electric company) was completely incompetent, etc. so he 
sent them on their way.  The whole thing is on hold.


Another buddy apparently has a system installed now and is waiting for a 
Tesla battery to provide some stand-alone capacity in the event of power 
outage.  I was over there recently but it was dark and I didn't see the 
install.


I have been thinking once I move to my more rural estate I might do some 
solar but it would likely require a solar "farm" i.e., free-standing 
panels on some racks or something because of the layout of the estate.  
But then I think about a tank of fuel with a generator to run things and 
that seems a better deal.


--FT

On 5/27/22 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes 
good financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it 
doesn’t. That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems.


-D

On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via 
Mercedes  wrote:


In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this.
1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you
would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and 
install of
the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, 
$15,000.

2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert
cost per sq. ft of house area.]
3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated 
$8 to

$10,000, with cables and racks.
4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and 
inverter

to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment.
Which gives rise to the question: "Does $8 per gallon for diesel 
sound so

bad in comparison, or are you truly committed to "Go Green via an EV"?

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 7:20 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security
issues associated with lithium batteries and PV panels, I like the 
idea of

a garage with PV panels to charge your car. Of course you would need
storage batteries in your garage to collect and store the electrons 
from
solar photons so you can charge your car at night. The whole process 
should

be on the order of maybe 8% efficient if you’re lucky.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On May 27, 2022, at 4:31 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

When I first heard of ZEVs, I thought "Oh, you mean Remote Emissions

Vehicles".

Mitch.


On 2022-05-26 17:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
And I don’t want to start the back and forth up, but the electricity
to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and it’s likely
generated using fossil fuels at present.
So the emissions are going to come from somewhere in the process, 
just

not from a tailpipe on the car in this case.



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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
> What I do not understand are the metrics of the railroad cutting off 
> scheduled shipments of tank car loads of diesel, DEF, Gasoline, Biodiesel, 
> Ethanol, and engine oils to Pilot.

I didn't watch the video, but in general the railroads are suffering the same 
problem as many other employers: lack of staff and difficulty hiring. Modern 
railroads run less scheduled trains and more "when the train is ready we go" 
ad-hoc. Engineers and conductors are living out of hotels, getting called with 
two hours notice that they are going halfway across the country. What used to 
be a predictable job with good pay is now much more unpredictable and 
experienced employees are quitting or retiring and telling their kids to pursue 
a different line of work. The railroads are probably hoping they can ride it 
out until fully autonomous trains are ready and approved, but there's more 
skill to keeping a mile-long train on the tracks while also making good time, 
not stalling on grades, not breaking couplers, and not wasting fuel than you 
might think.
 


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Re: [MBZ] Just got home from my cruise

2022-05-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I think a lot of it is just your inborn nature. Growing up, my parents never 
really had chores for me. I volunteered to cut the grass, then started doing it 
for money around the neighborhood. Got a paper route on my own. Got my first 
"real" job with a paycheck when I was 16. Bought a clapped out VW beetle and 
rebuilt the engine from books. I have never been unemployed for more than a few 
weeks since then.

I still have trouble keeping my room clean though.


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>
> "We find it is easier not to."
>
> There's always a handle.  But if one of the parents is too squeamish
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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Railroad cars full of diesel, DEF, and gasoline.
Pilot is a huge company that dominates the trucking industry coast to coast
with billion$ in sales per year. What I do not understand are the metrics
of the railroad cutting off scheduled shipments of tank car loads of
diesel, DEF, Gasoline, Biodiesel, Ethanol, and engine oils to Pilot.
Since the railroads really only can function because of government
subsidies, the question needs to be raised "Who is pulling the railroads
strings behind the scenes to make this happen?"
No DEF, your fleet of $500,000 trucks sit at the side of the road with
trailers full of supply chain products that don't get delivered.. etc etc
etc... repeat for each item not delivered as scheduled by railroad..
There is a point where the excuse of executive ignorance fails and the
claim of deliberate acts to cause harm becomes valid... That is a question
not asked or answered, at the moment.

On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 9:48 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not sure I understand what they are complaining about. The guy talks about
> “cars” being shipped, is he speaking of rail cars of fuel? I didn’t listen
> to the whole thing, but I didn’t quite understand what he was explaining.
>
> Someone want to enlighten me?
>
> -D
>
> > On May 30, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Thanks, That was sort of what I was getting, just wanted to be sure. He was 
talking about “cars” and DEF, so I was a bit confused. Doesn’t seem to take 
much these days….

I have a much better understanding of how much stuff moves by rail these days, 
as Flagstaff has one of the main east/west rail lines (BNSF Seligman 
Subdivision) going through from LA to Chicago. It averages 75 freight trains a 
day. Some of those are 2-3 miles long. Amazing to watch them and see how much 
stuff is moved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKyqd7Y9TOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONGBnLjwHgo

-D

On May 30, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

The railroad is cutting shipments by 25-50%. Over 70% of commercial DEF is 
shipped by rail.

That's bad.

Real bad.


Rick

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Not sure I understand what they are complaining about. The guy talks about 
“cars” being shipped, is he speaking of rail cars of fuel? I didn’t listen to 
the whole thing, but I didn’t quite understand what he was explaining.

Someone want to enlighten me?

-D

On May 30, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Just got home from my cruise

2022-05-30 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-05-30 13:19, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:


There's always a handle.  But if one of the parents is too squeamish
to do their duty, well, the world needs parasites too!


I haven't heard much on the parent's track record on parasites lately.
Is it 2 for 2 or 1 for 2?

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Re: [MBZ] Just got home from my cruise

2022-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
"Where's my dinner?"

"We find it is easier not to."

There's always a handle.  But if one of the parents is too squeamish
to do their duty, well, the world needs parasites too!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
The railroad is cutting shipments by 25-50%. Over 70% of commercial DEF is 
shipped by rail.

That's bad.

Real bad.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

Not sure I understand what they are complaining about. The guy talks about 
“cars” being shipped, is he speaking of rail cars of fuel? I didn’t listen to 
the whole thing, but I didn’t quite understand what he was explaining.

Someone want to enlighten me?

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Not sure I understand what they are complaining about. The guy talks about 
“cars” being shipped, is he speaking of rail cars of fuel? I didn’t listen to 
the whole thing, but I didn’t quite understand what he was explaining.

Someone want to enlighten me?

-D

> On May 30, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Yep.
The next twelve to thirty six months is going to suck.
Hopefully it doesn't continue for another decade.
Cascading consequences.
Shut down the world economy, and bad things happen. I'm grateful to have some 
spare parts for these old Mercedes (MB content).


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

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[MBZ] No paperwork, no keys. Last owner said that it runs, idk. 2007 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $1, 000

2022-05-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Parts car no cats nice Mercedes rims sunroof etc. Very nice car for the 
money . Interior mint condition


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1173941260111330

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[MBZ] Get ready for more price increases and fuel shortages

2022-05-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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[MBZ] 1 - 2002 Mercedes bens 180k mille. Runs bud need some work. 3 used cars - $3, 000 (Jacksonville)

2022-05-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

*2002 mercedes benz c320/*

ALL TREE FOR $ 3000.00

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-used-cars/7489878570.html

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[MBZ] So tempting... 2008 Mercedes S550 (title missing) transmission needs fix $2000 OBO - $2, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-05-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Car works great, transmission went out and it's just been sitting in my 
driveway


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/harrisburg-2008-mercedes-s550-title/7490025345.html

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 S550 - 122k miles - $9,000

2022-05-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah mine has the bumber/trim and wheels options. You have to get the vin and 
check
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> On May 30, 2022, at 9:08 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> On 2022-05-30 08:42, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> AMG logos are cheap on eBay
>> My S550 has AMG front bumber, side skirts, and wheels but that’s the
>> extent of it — tarted up some. It does look nice though. No loud
>> exhaust or badge.
> 
> Anything on the build info to indicate it had an AMG appearance package?
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 S550 - 122k miles - $9,000

2022-05-30 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-05-30 08:42, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

AMG logos are cheap on eBay

My S550 has AMG front bumber, side skirts, and wheels but that’s the
extent of it — tarted up some. It does look nice though. No loud
exhaust or badge.


Anything on the build info to indicate it had an AMG appearance package?

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Re: [MBZ] 2016 S550e Hybrid/Electric - 65k miles - $45,995

2022-05-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Interesting.  I Might have seen one around a time or two

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> Realtor spec, but sounds like it's been taken care of. Way more than I'd 
> spend but I think this is the first MB hybrid I've seen on CL.
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> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/fort-knox-2016-mercedes-s550e-hybrid-mb/7489851089.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 S550 - 122k miles - $9,000

2022-05-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
AMG logos are cheap on eBay 

My S550 has AMG front bumber, side skirts, and wheels but that’s the extent of 
it — tarted up some. It does look nice though. No loud exhaust or badge. 

—FT

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> Hm. AMG badge, but "Custom loud mufflers sounds like amg" so... not an AMG?
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