Re: [MBZ] e: 50 MPG ???

[slozukimc]

Thanks for the clarification.

Mike

> Mike wrote:
>
>> All,
>>   Here is a basic rundown..forklift tank to regulator set
>> at one psi, electric shutoff valve opens only when engine is
>> running, micro switch on throttle linkage opens second valve
>> to allow propane to go to homemade nozzle(copper tubing with
>> the end crimped and holes drilled on one side along it's
>> length so the gas mixes with the incoming air) only at half
>> throttle or more.  The idea isn't to add more fuel but to add
>> a tiny bit of propane to help the diesel burn.
>
>>  I can't think
>> of a better term than catalyst...works just like NOS in a
>> gasser.
>
> NOS (N2O) is a convenient way to add oxygen for the fuel to burn.
>
> Propane has no oxygen with it, so for it to burn there must be
> available oxygen from the air. Instead, the propane helps
> spread the flame front evenly.
>
>
> from http://www.mrsharkey.com/lpg.htm
>
>  Introducing LPG gas into the combustion air intake of a
>  diesel engine acts as an accelerant, promoting the even
>  burning of the diesel fuel, and more complete combustion,
>  resulting in more power being produced. Many web pages
>  and forum posts will call LPG a "catalyst" but this is
>  not correct, as LPG creates no change in the molecular
>  makeup of either the air or the diesel fuel.
>
>  Propane by itself will not self-ignite inside a
>  diesel-fuel compression-ignition engine. During the
>  compression stroke, the air/LPG mixture is compressed and
>  the temperature is raised to about 400°C, not enough to
>  ignite the LPG, which has an ignition temperature of
>  about 500°C. When the diesel fuel is atomized into the
>  cylinder under high pressure, it immediately self-ignites
>  (diesel ignites at about 385°C.), and causes the LPG to
>  burn as well. Since the LPG is in mixture with the air,
>  the flame front from the diesel spreads more quickly, and
>  more completely, including igniting the air/fuel mixture
>  which is in contact with the cylinder walls, which are
>  cool in comparison to the super-heated air inside the
>  combustion chamber. Much of the cleaner burning of the
>  fuel is attributed to this ignition against the "cooler"
>  components of the engine, and accounts for raising the
>  percentage of combustion from a typical 75% for a
>  well-tuned diesel engine running on pure diesel fuel
>  alone, to 85-90% with the addition of LPG. Obviously,
>  this more complete combustion also gives a nice boost in
>  power, with an accompanying increase in fuel economy and
>  reduction of pollutants.
>
>
> -- Philip
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Re: [MBZ] 73 220D....What gear ratio rear diff?

[slozukimc]

I already bought one...Now i sorta wish I didn't.  It's rusty POS that
looks sweet.  I didn't know the friggin' thing was rusted so bad up under
the windshield that it's going to fall in half.

So, i am going to pull the engine and trans and use them in my Suzuki rock
buggy.

Mike

> are you going to buy a 220D?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Thanks Craig!!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From:  Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subj:  Re: [MBZ] 73 220DWhat gear ratio rear diff?
>> Date:  Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:34 pm
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>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:02:31 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>
>>
>>> What is the gear ratio in the rear diff of my 73 220D with manual
>>
>>> tranny?
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't remember for sure and my ancient Chilton's doesn't say. I
>> remember
>>
>> something above 4:1 (4.11?)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Also, is fourth gear a 1:1 final drive?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 220D....What gear ratio rear diff?

[slozukimc]

Thanks Craig!!

Mike

-Original Message-

From:  Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj:  Re: [MBZ] 73 220DWhat gear ratio rear diff?
Date:  Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:34 pm
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:02:31 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



> What is the gear ratio in the rear diff of my 73 220D with manual

> tranny?



I don't remember for sure and my ancient Chilton's doesn't say. I remember

something above 4:1 (4.11?)





> Also, is fourth gear a 1:1 final drive?



Yes.





Craig



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Re: [MBZ] 73 220D....What gear ratio rear diff?

[slozukimc]

Thanks Jim!  That is just what I was looking for.

Mike

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In a message dated 6/18/2008 6:01:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



What is  the gear ratio in the rear diff of my 73 220D with manual tranny?

Also, is  fourth gear a 1:1 final drive?







Mike,

 

For the 115 D22, my Nitske "bible" has the US gear ratio as 4.08:1   Euro 

versions were 3.92:1.  4th gear is direct, at 1:1.

 

1st gear is 3.90:1 (stump pulling gear)

2nd gear is 2.30:1 

3rd gear is 1.41:1  



Jim  Friesen

Phoenix AZ

79 300SD, 264 K miles 

98 ML 320, 155 K  miles









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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem

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No comment eh?

Mike

> So how well does the Sprint system work? I am hoping to be able to use
> the
> new Centro for E-bay listings and e-mail..Tired of paying the Law &
> Order bill just to get so-so 500K cable.
>
> Mike
>
>> i don't like comcast, so i took a long look at satellite internet.
>> it's
>> the
>> pits.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Allan Streib wrote:
>>> > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> >
>>> >> i found a hack and bought it instead
>>> >
>>> > Well do tell...  Ever since COMCAST took over our local cable system
>>> > my cable internet service has gone from flawless to F---ed.  Not
>>> that
>>> > cellular is really an alternative, signal is marginal at my house.
>>> >
>>> > Anyone have any experience with internet from the likes of DirecTV?
>>> > I've heard it's very "chunky": OK for big downloads but not very
>>> good
>>> > for interactive use.
>>> >
>>> > Allan
>>>
>>> Kaleb can elaborate, but satellite generally stinks.
>>> I'd probably go cellular with an antenna before I'd go sat, as long as
>>> I can get a true unlimited plan with cellular.
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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem

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So how well does the Sprint system work? I am hoping to be able to use the
new Centro for E-bay listings and e-mail..Tired of paying the Law &
Order bill just to get so-so 500K cable.

Mike

> i don't like comcast, so i took a long look at satellite internet.  it's
> the
> pits.
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Allan Streib wrote:
>> > "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> >> i found a hack and bought it instead
>> >
>> > Well do tell...  Ever since COMCAST took over our local cable system
>> > my cable internet service has gone from flawless to F---ed.  Not that
>> > cellular is really an alternative, signal is marginal at my house.
>> >
>> > Anyone have any experience with internet from the likes of DirecTV?
>> > I've heard it's very "chunky": OK for big downloads but not very good
>> > for interactive use.
>> >
>> > Allan
>>
>> Kaleb can elaborate, but satellite generally stinks.
>> I'd probably go cellular with an antenna before I'd go sat, as long as
>> I can get a true unlimited plan with cellular.
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Re: [MBZ] question about using blackberry as a tethered modem (cbeyond,

[slozukimc]

This link usually links you to Sprint Chat.  They have been very helpful
to me so far.  I have 2 Centros on order and they said to contact them on
the chat board for help setting up phone as modem when my phones arrive.

Go to this page and there is USUALLY a link near the top left that says
Login to chat.  If it's not there look again in a while, sometimes it's
there, sometimes it's not.  Who knows?

http://www.sprint.com/landings/tvguide/

Mike


> this is my exact situation, summed up more clearly and concisely than i
> ever
> could.  any solutions would be appreciated as the idea of paying them an
> extra $59 a month for something i've already paid for kinda rubs me the
> wrong way.  plus i've wasted the last two days trying to make this work,
> only to learn that it doesn't because of subversion on the part of
> cbeyond,
> which also doesn't make me happy.
>
>
>
> Our company issued us BB 8703e telling us we have unlimited data
> capability.
> We purchased the services through CBEYOND who is a reseller for Sprint.
>
> CBYOND says no support available to use BB as a tethered modem. Instead,
> I
> have to buy a laptop card and $60/mo. Oh really? Sprint says data is
> included no charge.
>
> So, I downloaded the Sprint application allowing me to sign on, but no
> joy.
> I need an activation code.
>
> Of course CBEYOND tells me I have to buy a card becuase their network
> won't
> recognize my BB as a tethered modem. Sorry folks, the technology doesn't
> work that way.
>
> When I call SPRINT tech support I have to key in my account number and
> that
> pushes me over to CBEYOND support for the sales pitch.
>
> What is my way around this. CBEYOND has no network of their own that I am
> aware of, they just resell for SPRINT.
>
> Can anyone help?
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[MBZ] 73 220D....What gear ratio rear diff?

[slozukimc]

What is the gear ratio in the rear diff of my 73 220D with manual tranny?
Also, is fourth gear a 1:1 final drive?

Thanks, Mike


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Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g

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Fire up the old diesel tractor, grow me some rapeseed, press it into
canola oil and go on a road trip in my big ole comfy crewcab with the
kids.Or maybe go do some wheelin' in my OM615 powered tube buggy.

Mike

> Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving
> habits would you make?
>
> I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard.
>   I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a
> daily basis.  Also, in our mild southern winter I would try biking to
> work as often as possible.  No way I would do that in the summer... I
> don't want to stink up the whole office!
>
> Eating out would at a nice restaurant would be a super special occasion
> (I rarely do it as it is), and fast food would be greatly reduced.  All
> trips to Wal-Mart, Lowes, etc (both about 3-5 miles depending on route)
> would be a little more planned.
>
> I would probably sell all my cars except for the CDI and wagon.  Wagon +
> trailer would be my pickup.  I might even sell the CDI as I couldn't
> afford to go on road-trips anyway!  If nothing else the amount of cars I
> have insured would be limited to two.
>
> Road trips would be nearly nonexistent. It would cost over $150 to see
> my parents on the coast!  Don't even want to think about going to
> Phoenix to see family.  I'm sure flying would be just as expensive
> though.
>
> What would you guys do?
>
> John
>
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Re: [MBZ] YouTube... Killing a 240D!

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  The comments are a riot to read!

Looks like an old well worn rally car that was goin to the crusher to
me...

Silly how people get so excited over a worn out engine getting trashed.

Mike

> To all,
>
> Here is a horrendous example of stupid people loose in the land up
> north!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTdC3LC2lW0&feature=related
>
> Be sure to read the comments...
>
> For MB lovers ... Not pleasant to watch!
>
> Take care...
>
> Chuck
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Re: [MBZ] The End is Near for Free Veggie Oil

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Actually, it's not unless you are using a blend.  Then you are only
allowed to use certain percentages of "additive" in your fuel.

Mike

> actually it is considered a fuel additive
>
> Mitch Haley wrote:
>> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> "Converting a car to run on veggie oil is illegal, violating emissions
>> rules
>> in the Clear Air Act. "Vegetable oil has not been registered as a motor
>> oil
>> diesel fuel," said an EPA spokeswoman, so selling the stuff is also an
>> offense, though giving it away does not appear to be regulated at the
>> federal level."
>>
>> ---Never heard that line of thinking before.
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Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution

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>
> I'm betting the ratio will be three Roosa Masters per engine, but I could
> be wrong, maybe the pump likes the lubricity.
>

  Careful there, with names like that you may be showing your ageLOL

That could get very pricey in a big hurry.  I am also not just running a
blend.  I have a homemade coolant heated fuel filter setup as well as 2
homemade inline electric fuel heaters.  The blend is just a little
insurance policy so that i don't accidentally grenade a pump with oil that
is too thick.
  The filter assy. brings the fuel to 140F, the first electric heater is
in the loop so it helps heat the entire tank of fuel along with the
filter.  The second is just before the injector pump and heats to a max
of 180F at idle.  I still need more heat to run straight WVO well so i
am going to insulate and heat the fuel tank and lines as well.
  I am also looking at using 4-6 inches of NiChrome wire to make
individual injector line heaters so as to allow cold starts on WVO. 
Another benefit is that, contrary to popular belief, WVO actually needs
to be around 300F at the injector in order to get good atomization of
the fuel and a clean burn.  The injector pumps like the fuel to be
around 160-180 or so to work correctly.  So, logically, the only thing
to do is to heat the injector lines.

Mike



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Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution

[slozukimc]

Larry,
  You're welcome.
  As far as a conversion goes I can add a few tidbits of experience.

1. If you don't have a LOT of spare time to mess with collecting and
filtering the oil as well as the car and WVO system(filters. etc.) then
don't even bother.

2. If you don't have a DRY garage/shed of some sort large enough for a few
barrels and such, plus room to move around that you are willing to
dedicate to fuel production only again, don't bother.

3. Considering the diminishing supplies of used veggie oil due to
commercial renderers(sp?) WVO is much harder to come by than you would
think.

4. If you make short trips you need to look into a single tank type system
that can allow you to start up on VO.  What sort of driving do you do?

On the above note, I have been tinkering with the 220D and it will start
and run BETTER on STRAIGHT WVO than it does on ULSD in the 90+degree temps
we have been seeing lately.  Even after setting all night and with no
modifications at all.  The MBZ diesels seem to be very forgiving and as we
know already, very robust so they seem to be the best candidates for
conversions.

  There's a ton of info out there and i am not sure of good, current sites
to refer you to but that is a little bit of what i have learned messing
with the stuff.

Mike



> Thank you Steve, Chris, Mitch, Gary, Meade, Slozuk and others who
> responded to my message.   I had been concerned initially that ya'll would
> think I was justlooking for a reason to push people to use my service.
> But
> I felt it was necessary to warn people about the potential damage their
> engine may suffer when using WVO/Alt fuels.   I'm glad no one suggested I
> was just trying to drum up business because that was not my intent..
>
> Since we're on the subject of alt fuels are there any other links to
> sites that show the details of making the conversion?  I've been reading
> the
> elsbert site which looks promising.  I know I can Google the subject but
> that gets a shotgun effect - I'm sure ya'll have visited some sites better
> than others - perhaps a forum as well?  Not sure I want to convert but
> with
> fuel approaching $5/g it's very tempting.
>
> I may be forced to   and thanks to all  ---
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>
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>
>
>> on 6/10/08 15:54, Christopher McCann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> "Shorter service interval between oil-changes. Alternatively, you can
>>> have
>>> your engine oil analysed. These measures prevent potentially damaging
>>> "Polymerisation" of vegetable oil mixing with the engine lubricating
>>> oil."
>>
>>>From my reading, generally accepted best practice is to:
>>
>> - perform a compression check and oil analysis before you begin to use
>> SVO,
>> WVO, or home-brew biodiesel,
>>
>> - thereafter perform an oil analysis at least every 12 months (6 months
>> is
>> better), and a compression check each year.
>>
>> This is assuming you are using the alt fuel in a properly converted
>> vehicle
>> (e.g., coolant and/or electric heating for SVO/WVO, separate veg and
>> diesel
>> tanks, etc.).
>>
>> Mac
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution

[slozukimc]

It's called polymerization...Sorta turns the oil into plastic.  It's
real and it destroys veggie powered engines.

>From what I understand BioDiesel doesn't do the same thing but I could be
mistaken.

I think I need to look into the analysis a bit more myself as I'd like the
old GM 6.2 in my truck to last a while..

My blend of WVO and diesel costs me $1.21 or so per gallon x 20 MPG from a
1 ton crewcab works well for me.  At that cost I could easily replace the
engine and still make out ahead but I'd rather not.

Mike



> AFAIK, we haven't tested any VO or even BioFuels - which means none of
> *my* customers have submitted alt. fuels for testing.  Perhaps the Lab has
> tested some?  I'll chec  I'm just guessing, but I know some people using
> alt. fuels are trying to save money so they may not think spending money
> on
> oil analysis is valid.
>
> I'll check with the lab and see if they have anything they can share.
>
> Don't know how long it takes or if the alt fuel will get the blame but
> I
> would think some of those engines are failing.  Perhaps that's being
> blamed
> on age or something else?
>
> What do ya'll think?
>
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dillon,Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:42 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
>
>
>> Larry,
>>
>> Very well put, and I really appreciate you speaking up on this.  I
>> firmly
>> believe that responsible use of VO requires testing the engine oil and a
>> creative maintenance schedule to counter-act the acids, water and other
>> contaminants, and the chemical properties of the VO that create
>> byproducts
>> not found in #2 ULSD-burning engines.
>>
>> Do you have any test results that you can share?  I often challenge VO
>> advocates to provide some test results all the time, and not one has
>> stepped up.
>>
>> /s/
>>
>> Max Dillon, digest lurker
>>
>> '87 300TD 309k miles
>>
>> Charleston, SC
>>
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:55:02 -0400
>>>From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
>>>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>reply-type=original
>>>
>>>Howdy -
>>>I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting
>>> to
>>>try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel.  I've spoken
>>> to
>>>some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and
>>> they
>>>were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the
>>> oil.
>>>Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix
>>>well
>>>with lubricating oil.  One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after
>>>using veggie oil to power his diesel.  Naturally the engine was damaged
>>>from
>>>lack of lubrication.
>>>
>>>I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high
>>> compression
>>>levels experience "blow-by" (when combustion gases get past the rings
>>> into
>>>the crankcase & oil) which gives an opportunity for the various
>>>alternative
>>>fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils.
>>>
>>>This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of
>>> your
>>>fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil
>>>change
>>>intervals.  Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an
>>>analysis
>>>done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how
>>> much
>>>alt fuel is entering the crankcase.  Or perhaps you can determine this
>>> by
>>>other means?
>>>
>>>Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels
>>> (sources,
>>>filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult
>>> to
>>>know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication
>>> being
>>>used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels
>>> you
>>>need to be aware of.
>>>
>>>Good luck -
>>>
>>>Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] hmmm, interesting craigslist ad

[slozukimc]

So is this the "Holy Grail"?  Is it really a CHEAP Mercedes?

Looks like a good deal to me.Wish I could afford it.

Mike

> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> At $2K for the car, this translates to only about 2 cents per word.
>> Cheap!
>
> And if you read all the words, you'd see "I have an offer of $1400. If
> you
> offer me less than $1400 I will ignore you. First offer over $1400 gets
> the car". IMO, that means it's a $1500 car.
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jetta

[slozukimc]

84MPH is top speed on the 115 220D Manual..A whopping 2 more than the
automatic...lol  I've had it up to 75 and it's smooth as glass.  I get the
impression that it could cruise the highway at top speed for hours on end
with a top off of oil for each tank of fuel. ;>)

Mike

> Top end was in the nineties for my 92. I never cruised over 75, tho--
> noisy enough at that speed!
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that will actually run right along with our 220D manual.
>>
>> Probably faster on the top end by a mile thoughlol
>>
>> Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jetta

[slozukimc]

Yeah, that will actually run right along with our 220D manual.

Probably faster on the top end by a mile thoughlol

Mike

>
> On Jun 7, 2008, at 6:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>> 1991 Diesel Jetta 1.6 ONLY 138,000 miles
>>
>> I think this motor has about 48HP.  Just be forewarned.
>
> 52, actually. It's fine. No hot rod, but quicker than a 240D,
> especially with the five-speed.
>
> Dan
>
> Who owned one
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Shameless commerce - 2 cheap 300 TDs

[slozukimc]

Thanks Mitch..That works.

Mike

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> So what are the details on the other?
>
> Can you read both of these?
> It sounds like they are both two seaters, but Andrew could tell ya
> for sure:
> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/pts/701119079.html
> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/car/701114420.html
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Re: [MBZ] Shameless commerce - 2 cheap 300 TDs

[slozukimc]

Must be my e-mail.says the second 2 links timed out.I haven't a clue.

So what are the details on the other?

Either one have the 3rd seat?

Mike

> I knew this was going to be a tough crowd...
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> > It's only bad form when two of the links don't work.
>>
>> Well, there's one working link for each wagon, that ought to be enough.
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Re: [MBZ] Shameless commerce - 2 cheap 300 TDs

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> I hope it isn't considered bad form to post these links.
>
> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/pts/701119079.html
> http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/car/701114420.html
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It's only bad form when two of the links don't work.

Mike


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cheaper than a unimog

[slozukimc]

Around 3000 miles away in NY..LOLOL

Mike

> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 7:07 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> http://jxn.craigslist.org/car/692071928.html
>
>> Too bad it's 1500 miles from here..
>>
>
> Where are you at, Mike?  I posted two deuce-and-a-halfs from Portland
> CL a week or so ago...
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cheaper than a unimog

[slozukimc]

There's a whole running parts truck in PA for $1500.  ;>)

Mike

> Parts are probably cheaper, too.
>
> Dan
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: cheaper than a unimog

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> http://jxn.craigslist.org/car/692071928.html
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That's a really nice price if that is in as good of shape as it looks like
it is.

Too bad it's 1500 miles from here..

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[MBZ] Anyone need 73 220D parts?

[slozukimc]

I guess we have decided to part out the 73 220D we bought.  I am going to
keep the engine, trans and associated accessories to use in one of my
offroad buggies.  Everything else is up for grabs.  Chrome is all nice
except for one piece of windshield trim.  Glass is all good except the
windshield which has 2 stone chips, one is spidercracking so it's junk. 
Interior is Palomino and is in SWEET condition.  The dashpad is black and
has NO cracks.

Has all 4 matching green center hubcaps, all original books and such as
well as the tools, jack and spare tire.

I can ship all but the larger parts such as seats.

I am open to reasonable offers for parts..

If there is no interest here I will E-bay all of the parts in hopes of
getting somewhere close to the money we have invested out of it.

If someone wants a sweet parts car for a 115 220D this is a good one for
the job...I'd take $1200 cash for it whole and I'll drive it to you
for fuel money and a bus ticket back home within 1000 miles or so.

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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

With some careful sanding I think I can collect the dust and mix it with
some clear to get the weathered old car look right from scratch.

Mike

> The hard part is going to be removing the good paint from the 220D and
> putting it on the 300d.
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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

I saw that there is a huge difference in the front end pieces.  I would
assume I could use those from the 220 if they were good enough but they
are not.

Thanks, Mike

> The front of the 300D was extended to accomodate the longer engine - I
> don't think the bumper will fit - the fenders, hood, grill, and
> radiator support are all different.
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:38 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks Tom.  I'm not sure just yet if I want to tackle this
>> project..The fewer differences in the chassis itself the better
>> for sure.  I am not fond of the bumpers on the 300D, not as classy as
>> the
>> 73 style.  I'll have to check out the differences and maybe I can make
>> the
>> 220 bumpers fit the 300 chassis.
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

Thanks Kaleb.  I went and looked at the 300D today.  It's better than the
220 but not good enough to make me want to do all of that work to have it
rot out in a few years at most.

Mike

> yes you can
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> So if I strip everything from the 300 do you think I can replace them
>> with
>> the seats, belts and all from the 220?  I want to use the whole 220
>> interior if I can.
>>
>> Thanks, Mike
>>
>>> So are the seats -- you may have to do some swapping around -- this
>>> is due to the fact that the 300D has retracting  belts instead of
>>> Kangols and the seat back adjuster has to be on the other side of the
>>> seat back to clear the retractor.  Easy enough, just swap the seat
>>> backs.
>>>
>>> Trim, seats, carpet, etc. are very similar, but not idential (of
>>> course), but you can get the seats swapped with no trouble.
>>>
>>> So far as I can tell, only the dash panel itself is different, the
>>> rest of the climate control is identical.
>>>
>>> The 300D W115 was sold in 75 and 76, replaced by the W123 300D in
>>> 1976 -- both were available in 76.
>>>
>>> Nice car, my brother has one I nearly bought and we restored -- LOTS
>>> of sheetmetal work, and it's not really done yet.
>>>
>>> Check the floors -- this is where they go the worst, due to leaking
>>> windshields.  If they are rusty, you can buy NEW ones for a really
>>> reasonable price from K&K Manufacturing -- drill out the welds, drop
>>> in the new floor pans (one for each side), and weld up.
>>>
>>> I don't think I ever saw less than 30 mpg out of mine when it ran,
>>> and that's with a severely stretched chain.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>> On May 19, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:
>>>
 I owned a 1972 220D & two 1975 240Ds. The 1976 300D was the only
 square line
 300D sold in this country. Bumpers & associated sheet metal are
 different.
 Also, interior trim, dash & climate control are different.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
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 Subject: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

 Hello All,
   Been a while but I have a question.  Just can't seem to stay away
 from
 the Diesel MBZ no matter how I try...

 Bought a 73 220D with a manual tranny, mint interior, perfect running
 engine with 127K miles, almost perfect chrome, and pretty green
 paint, all
 of the dash and interior lights work and the clock keeps perfect
 time.
 The only thing that doesn't work as if it was new is the heater
 fan.  It
 is a bare bones version with no power steering or any power options
 at all
 for that matter.  It's the perfect car, sort of.

 Well, now that we have been driving it for a bit I am finding out
 just how
 rusty it really is.  I knew there was some rust in the floors and a
 bunch
 of bondo in the quarter panels but now as the body flexes I am
 seeing that
 the drivers floor all the way up into the firewall is SHOT bad.  Bad
 enough that the body is flexing at the front door post enough to
 rub off
 the paint with the chrome windshield trim.

 I am going tomorrow to look at a 76 300D parts car.  If the details
 I am
 given are correct it is a very solid body with a ratty interior and
 a shot
 engine.  Being a 300D I assume it is an automatic.

 We really like the 220D and it's a blast to drive with the manual
 tranny.
 30MPG isn't hard to swallow either.

 So, how much trouble am I getting myself into thinking that I can
 turn the
 76 300D into a replica of a 73 220D by combining the two cars?

 Thanks for any input,
 Mike


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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

HAHAHAHAHA.  I know what you are saying there.  Only problem is money.  I
have plenty of time to work on the car but not a ton of money to work
with.  Especially enough to buy a MBZ ready to go.  I am thinking I could
take the time and build one very nice car from the two if the parts will
interchange.

Mike

> 2 project cars is much worse than 1 project car. I suggest you wait for a
> nice one to come along.
>
> Maybe Kaleb has a nice Mercedes sitting around?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
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>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:25 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?
>
> The only nice thing about the 300D is the body is supposed to be rust
> free.  Paint is badly faded, interior is shot.  Engine is taken apart for
> some reasonThat's the description I have so far.
>
> I need to go look at it myself so I can be sure it is what I have been
> told.
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
>> I'd suggest buying the 300D if it’s a nice one & then saving the 220D
>> until
>> another 220D comes along.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom Hargrave
>> www.kegkits.com
>> 256-656-1924
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:38 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?
>>
>> Thanks Tom.  I'm not sure just yet if I want to tackle this
>> project..The fewer differences in the chassis itself the better
>> for sure.  I am not fond of the bumpers on the 300D, not as classy as
>> the
>> 73 style.  I'll have to check out the differences and maybe I can make
>> the
>> 220 bumpers fit the 300 chassis.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> I owned a 1972 220D & two 1975 240Ds. The 1976 300D was the only square
>>> line
>>> 300D sold in this country. Bumpers & associated sheet metal are
>>> different.
>>> Also, interior trim, dash & climate control are different.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom Hargrave
>>> www.kegkits.com
>>> 256-656-1924
>>>
>>>
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>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:55 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>   Been a while but I have a question.  Just can't seem to stay away
>>> from
>>> the Diesel MBZ no matter how I try...
>>>
>>> Bought a 73 220D with a manual tranny, mint interior, perfect running
>>> engine with 127K miles, almost perfect chrome, and pretty green paint,
>>> all
>>> of the dash and interior lights work and the clock keeps perfect time.
>>> The only thing that doesn't work as if it was new is the heater fan.
>>> It
>>> is a bare bones version with no power steering or any power options at
>>> all
>>> for that matter.  It's the perfect car, sort of.
>>>
>>> Well, now that we have been driving it for a bit I am finding out just
>>> how
>>> rusty it really is.  I knew there was some rust in the floors and a
>>> bunch
>>> of bondo in the quarter panels but now as the body flexes I am seeing
>>> that
>>> the drivers floor all the way up into the firewall is SHOT bad.  Bad
>>> enough that the body is flexing at the front door post enough to rub
>>> off
>>> the paint with the chrome windshield trim.
>>>
>>> I am going tomorrow to look at a 76 300D parts car.  If the details I
>>> am
>>> given are correct it is a very solid body with a ratty interior and a
>>> shot
>>> engine.  Being a 300D I assume it is an automatic.
>>>
>>> We really like the 220D and it's a blast to drive with the manual
>>> tranny.
>>> 30MPG isn't hard to swallow either.
>>>
>>> So, how much trouble am I getting myself into thinking that I can turn
>>> the
>>> 76 300D into a replica of a 73 220D by combining the two cars?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

The only nice thing about the 300D is the body is supposed to be rust
free.  Paint is badly faded, interior is shot.  Engine is taken apart for
some reasonThat's the description I have so far.

I need to go look at it myself so I can be sure it is what I have been told.

Thanks, Mike

> I'd suggest buying the 300D if it’s a nice one & then saving the 220D
> until
> another 220D comes along.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:38 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?
>
> Thanks Tom.  I'm not sure just yet if I want to tackle this
> project..The fewer differences in the chassis itself the better
> for sure.  I am not fond of the bumpers on the 300D, not as classy as the
> 73 style.  I'll have to check out the differences and maybe I can make the
> 220 bumpers fit the 300 chassis.
>
> Mike
>
>> I owned a 1972 220D & two 1975 240Ds. The 1976 300D was the only square
>> line
>> 300D sold in this country. Bumpers & associated sheet metal are
>> different.
>> Also, interior trim, dash & climate control are different.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom Hargrave
>> www.kegkits.com
>> 256-656-1924
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:55 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?
>>
>> Hello All,
>>   Been a while but I have a question.  Just can't seem to stay away from
>> the Diesel MBZ no matter how I try...
>>
>> Bought a 73 220D with a manual tranny, mint interior, perfect running
>> engine with 127K miles, almost perfect chrome, and pretty green paint,
>> all
>> of the dash and interior lights work and the clock keeps perfect time.
>> The only thing that doesn't work as if it was new is the heater fan.  It
>> is a bare bones version with no power steering or any power options at
>> all
>> for that matter.  It's the perfect car, sort of.
>>
>> Well, now that we have been driving it for a bit I am finding out just
>> how
>> rusty it really is.  I knew there was some rust in the floors and a
>> bunch
>> of bondo in the quarter panels but now as the body flexes I am seeing
>> that
>> the drivers floor all the way up into the firewall is SHOT bad.  Bad
>> enough that the body is flexing at the front door post enough to rub off
>> the paint with the chrome windshield trim.
>>
>> I am going tomorrow to look at a 76 300D parts car.  If the details I am
>> given are correct it is a very solid body with a ratty interior and a
>> shot
>> engine.  Being a 300D I assume it is an automatic.
>>
>> We really like the 220D and it's a blast to drive with the manual
>> tranny.
>> 30MPG isn't hard to swallow either.
>>
>> So, how much trouble am I getting myself into thinking that I can turn
>> the
>> 76 300D into a replica of a 73 220D by combining the two cars?
>>
>> Thanks for any input,
>> Mike
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

Thanks Tom.  I'm not sure just yet if I want to tackle this
project..The fewer differences in the chassis itself the better
for sure.  I am not fond of the bumpers on the 300D, not as classy as the
73 style.  I'll have to check out the differences and maybe I can make the
220 bumpers fit the 300 chassis.

Mike

> I owned a 1972 220D & two 1975 240Ds. The 1976 300D was the only square
> line
> 300D sold in this country. Bumpers & associated sheet metal are
> different.
> Also, interior trim, dash & climate control are different.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:55 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?
>
> Hello All,
>   Been a while but I have a question.  Just can't seem to stay away from
> the Diesel MBZ no matter how I try...
>
> Bought a 73 220D with a manual tranny, mint interior, perfect running
> engine with 127K miles, almost perfect chrome, and pretty green paint,
> all
> of the dash and interior lights work and the clock keeps perfect time.
> The only thing that doesn't work as if it was new is the heater fan.  It
> is a bare bones version with no power steering or any power options at
> all
> for that matter.  It's the perfect car, sort of.
>
> Well, now that we have been driving it for a bit I am finding out just
> how
> rusty it really is.  I knew there was some rust in the floors and a bunch
> of bondo in the quarter panels but now as the body flexes I am seeing
> that
> the drivers floor all the way up into the firewall is SHOT bad.  Bad
> enough that the body is flexing at the front door post enough to rub off
> the paint with the chrome windshield trim.
>
> I am going tomorrow to look at a 76 300D parts car.  If the details I am
> given are correct it is a very solid body with a ratty interior and a
> shot
> engine.  Being a 300D I assume it is an automatic.
>
> We really like the 220D and it's a blast to drive with the manual tranny.
> 30MPG isn't hard to swallow either.
>
> So, how much trouble am I getting myself into thinking that I can turn
> the
> 76 300D into a replica of a 73 220D by combining the two cars?
>
> Thanks for any input,
> Mike
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

So if I strip everything from the 300 do you think I can replace them with
the seats, belts and all from the 220?  I want to use the whole 220
interior if I can.

Thanks, Mike

> So are the seats -- you may have to do some swapping around -- this
> is due to the fact that the 300D has retracting  belts instead of
> Kangols and the seat back adjuster has to be on the other side of the
> seat back to clear the retractor.  Easy enough, just swap the seat
> backs.
>
> Trim, seats, carpet, etc. are very similar, but not idential (of
> course), but you can get the seats swapped with no trouble.
>
> So far as I can tell, only the dash panel itself is different, the
> rest of the climate control is identical.
>
> The 300D W115 was sold in 75 and 76, replaced by the W123 300D in
> 1976 -- both were available in 76.
>
> Nice car, my brother has one I nearly bought and we restored -- LOTS
> of sheetmetal work, and it's not really done yet.
>
> Check the floors -- this is where they go the worst, due to leaking
> windshields.  If they are rusty, you can buy NEW ones for a really
> reasonable price from K&K Manufacturing -- drill out the welds, drop
> in the new floor pans (one for each side), and weld up.
>
> I don't think I ever saw less than 30 mpg out of mine when it ran,
> and that's with a severely stretched chain.
>
> Peter
> On May 19, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:
>
>> I owned a 1972 220D & two 1975 240Ds. The 1976 300D was the only
>> square line
>> 300D sold in this country. Bumpers & associated sheet metal are
>> different.
>> Also, interior trim, dash & climate control are different.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom Hargrave
>> www.kegkits.com
>> 256-656-1924
>>
>>
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:55 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?
>>
>> Hello All,
>>   Been a while but I have a question.  Just can't seem to stay away
>> from
>> the Diesel MBZ no matter how I try...
>>
>> Bought a 73 220D with a manual tranny, mint interior, perfect running
>> engine with 127K miles, almost perfect chrome, and pretty green
>> paint, all
>> of the dash and interior lights work and the clock keeps perfect time.
>> The only thing that doesn't work as if it was new is the heater
>> fan.  It
>> is a bare bones version with no power steering or any power options
>> at all
>> for that matter.  It's the perfect car, sort of.
>>
>> Well, now that we have been driving it for a bit I am finding out
>> just how
>> rusty it really is.  I knew there was some rust in the floors and a
>> bunch
>> of bondo in the quarter panels but now as the body flexes I am
>> seeing that
>> the drivers floor all the way up into the firewall is SHOT bad.  Bad
>> enough that the body is flexing at the front door post enough to
>> rub off
>> the paint with the chrome windshield trim.
>>
>> I am going tomorrow to look at a 76 300D parts car.  If the details
>> I am
>> given are correct it is a very solid body with a ratty interior and
>> a shot
>> engine.  Being a 300D I assume it is an automatic.
>>
>> We really like the 220D and it's a blast to drive with the manual
>> tranny.
>> 30MPG isn't hard to swallow either.
>>
>> So, how much trouble am I getting myself into thinking that I can
>> turn the
>> 76 300D into a replica of a 73 220D by combining the two cars?
>>
>> Thanks for any input,
>> Mike
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

So the chassis itself is the same then?  I want to use only the body of
the 76 with every other part coming from the 73 220D.

OR, considering how nice all of the parts are on the 220D maybe I should
just part it out and get our money back.  We have about $1500 or so in it
right now.

Thanks, Mike

> Should not be too much trouble at all since you have complete cars, just
> swap over the engine, trans, pedal, shifter, driveshaft, tranny mount
> etc.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>   Been a while but I have a question.  Just can't seem to stay away
>> from
>> the Diesel MBZ no matter how I try...
>>
>> Bought a 73 220D with a manual tranny, mint interior, perfect running
>> engine with 127K miles, almost perfect chrome, and pretty green paint,
>> all
>> of the dash and interior lights work and the clock keeps perfect time.
>> The only thing that doesn't work as if it was new is the heater fan.
>> It
>> is a bare bones version with no power steering or any power options at
>> all
>> for that matter.  It's the perfect car, sort of.
>>
>> Well, now that we have been driving it for a bit I am finding out just
>> how
>> rusty it really is.  I knew there was some rust in the floors and a
>> bunch
>> of bondo in the quarter panels but now as the body flexes I am seeing
>> that
>> the drivers floor all the way up into the firewall is SHOT bad.  Bad
>> enough that the body is flexing at the front door post enough to rub
>> off
>> the paint with the chrome windshield trim.
>>
>> I am going tomorrow to look at a 76 300D parts car.  If the details I
>> am
>> given are correct it is a very solid body with a ratty interior and a
>> shot
>> engine.  Being a 300D I assume it is an automatic.
>>
>> We really like the 220D and it's a blast to drive with the manual
>> tranny.
>> 30MPG isn't hard to swallow either.
>>
>> So, how much trouble am I getting myself into thinking that I can turn
>> the
>> 76 300D into a replica of a 73 220D by combining the two cars?
>>
>> Thanks for any input,
>> Mike
>>
>>
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[MBZ] 73 115 220D+76 300D=Driver?

[slozukimc]

Hello All,
  Been a while but I have a question.  Just can't seem to stay away from
the Diesel MBZ no matter how I try...

Bought a 73 220D with a manual tranny, mint interior, perfect running
engine with 127K miles, almost perfect chrome, and pretty green paint, all
of the dash and interior lights work and the clock keeps perfect time. 
The only thing that doesn't work as if it was new is the heater fan.  It
is a bare bones version with no power steering or any power options at all
for that matter.  It's the perfect car, sort of.

Well, now that we have been driving it for a bit I am finding out just how
rusty it really is.  I knew there was some rust in the floors and a bunch
of bondo in the quarter panels but now as the body flexes I am seeing that
the drivers floor all the way up into the firewall is SHOT bad.  Bad
enough that the body is flexing at the front door post enough to rub off
the paint with the chrome windshield trim.

I am going tomorrow to look at a 76 300D parts car.  If the details I am
given are correct it is a very solid body with a ratty interior and a shot
engine.  Being a 300D I assume it is an automatic.

We really like the 220D and it's a blast to drive with the manual tranny. 
30MPG isn't hard to swallow either.

So, how much trouble am I getting myself into thinking that I can turn the
76 300D into a replica of a 73 220D by combining the two cars?

Thanks for any input,
Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Am I seeing TVs in front seats of cars?

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Brian,
 I have seen in-dash DVD players with little mechanical LCD screens that
pop right out of them..Absolutely ridiculous if you ask me.  With
the general lack of responsibility amongst our population these days, so
called drivers surely don't need another thing to do while driving.  How
can you manage a cellphone, sandwich, coffee and a movie all while
shifting through the gears?

Mike

> Okay, those with their finger on the pulse: Tell me - is it becoming a
> trend to have a TV screen hanging from the ceiling in the front seat
> area?
>
> Recently I saw a "donked" car (thanks to whoever enlightened us on
> that term a while back) with about a 13" screen in it. It passed us
> and it looked to me like the screen was right up by the driver. Not
> surprisingly, the car was running a late yellow light at a high rate
> of speed.
>
> And today as I rode my bike up the hill to get to our house I was
> passed by a Mitsubishi Eclipse with a TV screen that also looked to be
> up in the driver's area. And on this small a car, it wouldn't really
> matter if it was technically in the back passenger area - you could
> easily view it by reclining the seat. This driver, it happens, did not
> leave a very courteous amount of space between their vehicle and my
> person - perhaps not even the mandated three feet. They then drifted
> into the bike lane after they got past me.
>
> You would think that TV or computer, or DVD or whatever, screens in
> the front passenger area would be quite illegal. And they are a
> no-brainer to spot, so their use, it seems, would be an almost sure
> bust by the cops if they were illegal. If they are not illegal, then
> cel phones are no longer a worry. Now we have drivers vegging out in
> front of the TV or playing video games while "driving".
>
> Anybody know about this?
>
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Carmel, NY....a short drive away....

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BBBWHHHA..That made my day!!!

Mike

> The dinner gift cert. is for a restaurant in Phoenix.
>
> On 9/5/07, ANGELO GIAIMO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> John,  I'm about a 20-30 minute drive awaydepending on where in
>> Carmel
>> you're talking about.  (Work is right off of I84 and the Taconic Pky,
>> if
>> you've got a map.)
>>
>> I'm leaving for Florida 6 am Friday morning, so my window is tomorrow
>> afternoon...
>>
>> Send me the details.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> =
>>
>>
>> Is anyone close enough to Carmel NY and would be willing to check out a
>> car for me?  Dinner gift certificate for the favor!
>> Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> John Peterson
>> 1991 300D 2.5 81k
>> Kingston, RI
>>
>>
>> Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
>> Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
>> 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Carmel NY

[slozukimc]

230 miles from me..Dernit, I'm hungryLOL

Mike

> Is anyone close enough to Carmel NY and would be willing to check out a
> car for me?  Dinner gift certificate for the favor!
> Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> John Peterson
> 1991 300D 2.5 81k
> Kingston, RI
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Re: [MBZ] Seattle Listers - Need a Free Diesel?

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So Kleb, when ya goin to Seattle/  That beats the hell out of your usual
price..

Mike

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/wan/411508216.html
>
> Free Mercedes 450 and 300 SD
> Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2007-09-01, 10:38AM PDT
>
>
> I have a couple cars here that I need gone. Now. I'll let 'em go for
> free to get the city, the neighborhood, and 'the man' all off my back.
>
> update: I just drove both of these cars and parked 'em in the back
> yard this afternoon. So, yes, they run and drive. The tabs on the
> diesel are current thru 10/07. It's even got a half a tank of fuel!
>
> So far, I've had a bunch of calls from guys who say they'll come over
> and pick one or the other up. Fair warning: if you don't come thru,
> I'm calling the scrap guy towards the end of the week. Then you can go
> and pay for the parts off these cars at the local pull-a-part. 'Nuff
> said?
>
> They both were parked for some time; both have problems and I don't
> care to mess with them. Lots of money in parts replaced, you could
> probably make a pretty good car between the two of them, but my
> neighbors are really giving me hell about them. The cops are bugging
> me, the insurance company is hassling me, it's just not worth hanging
> on to them because I might get around to it in a year or 2.
>
> One is a '79 300SD (diesel) and the other is a 450 SE. I drove the SD
> for about 2 years, and it started getting smokier (it's a diesel,
> remember), and it was pretty slow. Then a window quit working. Cheesed
> me off because I'd put all new brakes, power booster, master cyl,
> front suspension parts, and vacuum pump in it - to the tune of $1000.
> Ouch.
>
> About that time, I got a 450 SE from the wife of a friend. I pulled
> the grill, headlights and bumper off the SD to put on the 450, and
> rolled around in that for a while. I was going to get the title from
> my buddy's wife, but she moved out of state before I got the title. So
> the car was parked. Now it runs rough if you put a battery in it and
> drive it, but you can bring a battery (which I stole out for another
> car) and drive it home.
>
> The diesel will run and drive. It actually drove really nicely; if you
> weren't in a hurry. Anyway, you got to bring a few fuses and battery
> (I stole them for the 450), and a little ether to get 'er to fire. I
> spent $3-400 on a new relay for the glow plugs, and put new glow plugs
> in it too, but the stuff didn't work last time I drove it. Now I can't
> even find the title for the damn thing but I'll be happy to give you a
> release of interest. So you can title 'er up no problem.
>
> Here's the bottom line: you can have either or both cars. Come get
> them. First come, first served. I'm not holding them, I'm not
> delivering them, and I'm definitely NOT allowing anyone to part them
> out on my property. Nothing else around here is included in the offer,
> but I do have a kids' bike and a mini-truck canopy that you can take
> if you twist my arm...
>
> Call Bill at 206-718-2455 and get free (no kidding) cars. Thanks for
> looking, and thanks to Craigslist for the free ad!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigs list all over

[slozukimc]

HUH?  An RSS who?

Mike

> If you put something like "Mercedes" in the search for box, then put
> "sale/wanted" in the next one, then put "cars & trucks" in the third box,
> then click the RSS button, it will generate some code that can go into an
> RSS reader
>
> Royce Engler
>
> Others said.
>
> There's more to it, there's something at the top of the page that says
> "seeing homepages" or some such thing with some further instructions.  I
> didn't try too much to get past it...
>
> On 8/28/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I just tried the search, for some reason it does not go to the
>> category in each city and spit out results, but if you put your
>> keyword in the search for that city it does, individually.  Maybe they
>> don't have it sorted quite right or something.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > So what is the benefit?  All I can seem to make it do is bring up a
>> bunch
>> > of homepages at once.  I guess that's a bit better but I couldn't
>> > get it to search a whole list of areas and actually give me results.
>> >
>> > Am I doing it wrong?
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >> http://www.crazedlist.org/
>> >>
>> >> Someone was asking about this a week or two ago
>> >>
>> >> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Craigs list all over

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So what is the benefit?  All I can seem to make it do is bring up a bunch
of homepages at once.  I guess that's a bit better but I couldn't get it
to search a whole list of areas and actually give me results.

Am I doing it wrong?

Mike

> http://www.crazedlist.org/
>
> Someone was asking about this a week or two ago
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] What happened to the VW rabit diesels from the 1980's

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The early jap trucks were rated for 1/4 ton.The VW had them beat by
100 pounds

Was a big deal when Toyota started bragging about thier 1/2 ton rating! 
HAH!!

Better mileage from the VW loaded than any of the other models offered at
the time empty.

Mike

> they are basically rabbits with a bed instead of a back seat and hatch.
> i
> would think they maybe put some kind of leaf spring on the rear but i
> remember them at being rated less than half ton, like 600 lbs.  a front
> drive, tiny cabin pickup truck that can't really haul anything.  and,
> yet,
> it is the object of such affection.
>
> go figure, huh!
>
> On 8/27/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/27/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > the pickups always carried a premium.  not quite sure why exactly,
>> but
>> never
>> > really worried about as i could never fit in one
>> >
>>
>> I've noticed that the pickups are cult objects too, and never quite
>> got the appeal.  I assume they're unit body like the Rabbit---do they
>> actually have any carrying capacity at all?  Was the rear suspension
>> beefed up or something like that to make them equal in capability to a
>> half-ton Toyota, say, of the same period?
>>
>> Then again, I wonder why people collect Subaru Brats, too.  (And they
>> do!)
>>
>> Alex Chamberlain
>> '87 300D Turbo et al.
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Re: [MBZ] What happened to the VW rabit diesels from the 1980's

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The engines are still going..I have a 1.6 NA diesel bolted to a
Samurai transmission getting ready to go into my Wuzazuki offroad buggy.

Mike

>
>
> Peter Merle wrote:
>>
>> Here in South Africa we also had a lot of diesel rabits from the 80's
>> that seem to have disappeared in the 1990's . I was wondering what
>> happened to them. Do many still exist in the US. We still BTW have lots
>> of Merc diesels from the 80's here.
>
> The ones that haven't turned into rust flakes are still around, I'd guess
> 10-20% of them remain. You see the occasional diesel converted Rabbit or
> Golf convertible on eBay.
>
> I saw a 1983  Scirocco advertised locally last week. I haven't seen a
> Scirocco on the road in a long time. Would be interesting to have one with
> a
> modern TDI engine.
> http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=BM2280378
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Re: [MBZ] Oil gauge was Re: 83' 300D Greasecar for sale

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That's what i thought too..that's what mine do.

Mike

> Brian wrote:
>
>
>
> "My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so
>
> after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead
>
> and move up to pegged."
>
>
>
> Really?  Mine pegs out almost instantly and I don't use Mobil 1.   I
> think it did the same thing in my 1990 300D 2.5.   I thought all
> Mercedes would peg out (3+) when they are first started and then they
> will go down a little after running for a while and getting hot
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> 1990 300SEL 139K
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Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale

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Both actually.  I could use a good transmission for the TD and i would
love to change it over to the greasecar kit as i have about 300 gallons of
WVO laying around just waiting to be put to good use.  I have my 83 SD
with a good running engine in it.(less miles than yours) i could throw
in on the deal if that guy is interested in a good engine.  Actually the
SD is a much prettier looking car with a bad transmission.
  I bet he'd offer the same $1000 for the SD if all he needs is a good
engine.It really does look pretty...lol

My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  send me your adress and I'll take
a ride over your way sometime and chat about it.

Mike

> Are you looking for just the Benz parts or the Greasecar parts?
> I'm still not at all sure what it's worth, but I see the greasecar kit is
> about $1K now, so I might potentially think about selling them
> separately...
> Though at this point, I think I'm getting an 01-03 Prius and if that's
> the
> case, my fallback is that it's worth about $1k in trade to a dealer who's
> got a wrecked Prius I could use for spare parts.  Though I think he just
> wants the engine...
> But I'm still waiting for another couple weeks to see if I somehow
> managed
> to win a new one from over in Ithaca...  Of course if that happens then I
> won't be as worried about how much I get out of the car...  (:
>
> Levi
>
> On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested in it for a parts car for my TD but not at that kind
>> of
>> price..Let me know when it gets to parts car price or you want
>> to
>> sell parts.  Or if you wanted to trade for something maybe we could
>> work
>> something out.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> > Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for
>> sale
>> > since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a
>> > *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm
>> planning
>> > on
>> > getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months.
>> >
>> > So...
>> > It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed.  (Start on diesel
>> until
>> > it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a
>> minute
>> > before you shut it off.)
>> > Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily.  But it runs reliably.
>> >
>> > Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except
>> > that
>> > the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though
>> certainly
>> > not unbearable.
>> > Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal).  I've got at least 2,
>> if
>> not
>> > 5
>> > other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in.
>> > Keyless entry
>> > Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few
>> minutes
>> > after shutoff.  (and potentially the ACC vent).  ACC works as well as
>> I
>> > assume it should.  Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield
>> than
>> > it's
>> > supposed to, but it's never been a problem.  AC is "cool" as
>> usual(not
>> > COLD).  It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're
>> sitting
>> > still, you're probably going to get warm.
>> > Cruise works
>> > AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in)
>> > moonroof works
>> > windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe
>> is
>> > some
>> > loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a
>> slight
>> > bit
>> > of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught.
>> > tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want
>> to
>> > mess
>> > with it)
>> > odo is at the "hold in the button to keep it rolling" phase
>> > It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it.
>> > New battery this past winter
>> > Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet.
>> > Hella Euro headlights with "+50" bulbs.
>> > I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides.
>> > I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes.  Which is around
>> how
>> > often I refill with diesel.
>> > I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare
>> > diesel
>> > filters
>> > I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with
>> > jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters
>> > Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go.
>> > If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine.
>> > Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual.
>> > Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve,
>> thermostat,
>> > speedo...  think that's most of it.  Can't say for sure if they're
>> any
>> > good
>> > or not.
>> > I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about
>> 300K
>> > on
>> > it.
>> >
>> > I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were
>> only
>> > used for about a month this past winter.  I think I'll try to sell
>> those
>> > separately, but for the right price I might include them.
>> >
>> > Basically,

Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale

[slozukimc]

I'd be interested in it for a parts car for my TD but not at that kind of
price..Let me know when it gets to parts car price or you want to
sell parts.  Or if you wanted to trade for something maybe we could work
something out.

Mike

> Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale
> since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a
> *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning
> on
> getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months.
>
> So...
> It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed.  (Start on diesel until
> it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute
> before you shut it off.)
> Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily.  But it runs reliably.
>
> Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except
> that
> the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly
> not unbearable.
> Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal).  I've got at least 2, if not
> 5
> other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in.
> Keyless entry
> Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes
> after shutoff.  (and potentially the ACC vent).  ACC works as well as I
> assume it should.  Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than
> it's
> supposed to, but it's never been a problem.  AC is "cool" as usual(not
> COLD).  It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting
> still, you're probably going to get warm.
> Cruise works
> AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in)
> moonroof works
> windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is
> some
> loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight
> bit
> of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught.
> tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to
> mess
> with it)
> odo is at the "hold in the button to keep it rolling" phase
> It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it.
> New battery this past winter
> Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet.
> Hella Euro headlights with "+50" bulbs.
> I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides.
> I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes.  Which is around how
> often I refill with diesel.
> I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare
> diesel
> filters
> I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with
> jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters
> Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go.
> If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine.
> Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual.
> Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat,
> speedo...  think that's most of it.  Can't say for sure if they're any
> good
> or not.
> I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K
> on
> it.
>
> I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only
> used for about a month this past winter.  I think I'll try to sell those
> separately, but for the right price I might include them.
>
> Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a
> lot
> of driving for free.  But it can be messy and time consuming to collect
> and
> filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a
> Prius.
>
> I'm located near Corning, NY.
> I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on
> crack
> but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make
> any offers if you're interested.
>
>
> Pictures can be found here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227
>
> Video can be found here:
> http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B
> Which includes part of a drive.  If you want to see the entire 13 minute
> trip around the block, that's here:
> http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS
>
>
> Thanks,
> Levi
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Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage

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Sounds like you got a good one for a Dakota...Keep it and get the rust
fixed

Mike

> My '96 Dodge Dakota 318 V8 will pull 20mpg empty... It's pulled a 4400#
> tractor before for 300 miles at highway speeds... I've put 150,000 miles
> on it and the motor is fine but the tin worm is getting it.
>   For replacement I'm sorely tempted to get another just like it.
>
>   -Curt
>
>   Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 21:30:56 -0500
> From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage
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> My Dad's 1999 Ranger 2.5, 5 speed standard, bare basic truck gets
> 21mpg at 75 mph, empty, and can barely keep 75 up the Oklahoma hills.
> I don't know if this is typical or not.
> It is definitely a Frod though 
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage

[slozukimc]

My 95 with the 2.3 has 230K on it and it runs absolutely perfect.  No
smoke, rattles or major leaks and it was always owned by a friend of mine
who has NO clue about anything mechanical...It had the infamous
sticky throttle body shaft at one time(all Frods do if you leave them sit
long around here) and he let it sit on the rev limiter while he went in
the house to get someone to help.DUH!

Mike

> OK Don wrote:
>> My Dad's 1999 Ranger 2.5, 5 speed standard, bare basic truck gets
>> 21mpg at 75 mph, empty, and can barely keep 75 up the Oklahoma hills.
>> I don't know if this is typical or not.
>
> I've got a 95 Mazda B2300 (2.3L Ranger) with 5 speed and it can barely
> do 75 up hills.  I shift into 4th to maintain speed on any respectable
> hill.  The odometer quit at 190k about two years ago, but before that I
> got about 19-23 highway MPG depending on how I drove it. In town is
> 17-20.  I once got 12mpg when I was towing a trailer (empty!!!) at
> 75mph.  The reason I got 12 is that the trailer was so heavy I couldn't
> maintain speed in 5th AT ALL.  So had to use 4th  Mileage was better
> with it loaded (14' utility trailer with books & furniture) since I went
> 70.
>
> If you need a truck to abuse though... I HIGHLY recommend them.  They
> are also dirt cheap.  The A/C is nothing short of fantastic.
>
> I've got an OM617 & tranny in the bed of mine at the moment :)
>
> John
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Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage

[slozukimc]

I think you may have found the rare exception to the rule.  The 4 banger
manual trans Rangers and Bronco II's seem pretty good on gas.  I have a 95
here that averages around 25 or so and that's 4x4.

Mike

> My Dad's 1999 Ranger 2.5, 5 speed standard, bare basic truck gets
> 21mpg at 75 mph, empty, and can barely keep 75 up the Oklahoma hills.
> I don't know if this is typical or not.
> It is definitely a Frod though 
>
> On 8/7/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Indeed they do, and have ever since Model A days.  Old V8's
>> have their problems with oil consumption.
>>
>> I had a new 1963 Ford w/352 engine that got 7 mpg at first.
>> I thought I would have to get rid of it if that was what it was
>> going to do.
>>
>> I have a 1976 pickup with 460 engine that gets 10 to 11 mpg loaded or
>> empty.
>>
>> Frods do indeed drink fuel.
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

[slozukimc]

It's a 4 door dually 4x4..Not sure of the gears.

Mike


>
>
> Kevin Kraly wrote:
>>
>> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
>> sure
>> dont
>
> The original 17 figure was for 55mph unloaded. My friend drove his 2001
> F250
> at 55mph for an entire tank and got 24mpg. I would expect most Dodge and
> Ford
> direct injection diesels to get in the mid 20s at 55mph, so 17 does not
> sound
> good, unless it's a dually with 4.xx final drive ratio.
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

[slozukimc]

Yeah really.My Megadodge gets 6 at 85 pulling my car trailer with
a Tracker on it..Of course it rides on 37" tires and will use the
front of a Benz sized car for an RTI ramp..LOLOL


Mike

> as bad as 12 towing a 15k load of
> horses at 80mph.
>
> BAD?  Anything that can tow that much weight at 80MPH and still be in
> double
> digits is great!  My parents had a '94 F350 5SPD 1st gen Powerstroke with
> an
> 11' camper on the back, and it was lucky to get 10MPG on the highway at
> 70MPH.
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

[slozukimc]

I recently drove an 03 6.0 powerchoke and I was hardly impressed with the
power or mileage.  According to it's onboard mileage computer we could get
no more than 17 empty no matter how easy on it we were.

Mike

> Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine
> with
> larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that.
>
> Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is
> certainly
> not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08
> trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust.
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
>> The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt.  Of couse the
>> good
>> mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans.
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

[slozukimc]

Sure do running empty.  A 7.3 Powerchoke will pull 23 in the same type of
truck.

Mike

> You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp??  I
> sure
> dont
>
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>
>
>> Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph.
>> Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
>> does have a TON of power.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

[slozukimc]

Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. 
Terrible for a new truck.  Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it
does have a TON of power.

Mike

> And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel...
>
>   Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:00:40 -0500
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> exactly.  Every step of the way the D/A has had more power than the
>  same
> year Cummins.
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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

[slozukimc]

I'll take a dependable old 7.3 turbo over a Cummins in a Ford any day

Mike

> I'm sure people have thought they put away my buddy's Powerstroke. He tows
> 12-15k horse trailers in sixth, and won't downshift until he drops below
> 50mph.
>
> My parents owned a '99 Ford F350 Powerstroke which hauled a 35 foot 12.5K
> 5th wheel trailer.  With the pedal floored, it was just enough to maintain
> 50MPH up the Grape Vine.  I'm not sure how our Dodge Cummins would do with
> the same load, but it'll tow our 7K travel trailer around with ease.  If I
> could have the '06 Cummons, or better yet, a SLIGHTLY tweaked 12 valve
> '94-98.5  Cummins in the '99 or later Ford crewcab, now that would be THE
> TRUCK!
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Re: [MBZ] No one wants my TD?

[slozukimc]

Well it seems I am going to be "forced" to keep it...Not that I don't
want a TD, I do, but it isn't being driven and I haven't had the time to
fix it.  I guess I will be finding a fairly dry place in my barn for it to
live for the time being.  I am still very tempted to build a 4x4 out of
it..

Mike

> It seems than at Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:22:30 -0700 (PDT),
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Kaleb? anyone?
>
> Sure. I want it.
>
> The price is good, the car is right.
>
> The distance is a bit much (about 960 miles), and the timing is
> poor. My suburban with nearly 400,000 miles is in need of
> significant work or replacement. Either will cost time and
> money, so to also spend time and money on yet another W123 is
> probably not a good choice for me.
>
> But I have cars with good transmissions and bad engines, so a
> _wagon_ that needs transmission work would fit in nicely.
>
> But do I really want to compete with Kaleb for quantity of cars?
>
> *sigh* Time and money...
>
> Anybody have leads on a diesel suburban, mid 80s, little rust?
>
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR

[slozukimc]

Man the prices are high out there!!

I'd sell ya my Iveco 15-14 Euroturbo for less than that.It's an 89
with 94K miles and a GVWR of 14,800#.  How many boats will fit on a 19' x
8' flatbed?
  But of course, as usual, the wrong side of the country has what you
need, again.

Mike


> Well,
> When the good deals come, they keep on coming!  The dragon boat club board
> is looking at purchasing a '94 Isuzu NPR with 195K miles on it for $4500.
> it does have a couple of minor problems.  The AC needs a charge, and some
> accessories still function, for example, the blower motor,  when the key
> is
> off which drains the battery which I'm guessing is due to a faulty
> ignition
> switch.  The owner thinks that it's odd that the highbeams still function
> as
> well.  I figured that since the lights can be switched on with the key
> off,
> the highbeams should too.  Other than the above, the truck runs and drives
> great!
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Re: [MBZ] No one wants my TD?

[slozukimc]

I really would like to keep it but it's just not going to do what i need
right now.  I am supposed to be buying a gooseneck trailer and need the
cash from the TD to pay for it.

Let me know.

Mike

> Im still thinking on it, just not sure.  I turned down a 85 wagon with no
> rust not too long ago for $1200.  Im really in a downsizing phase so I
> really shouldnt be buying anymore cars, but I am tempted...
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> Subject: [MBZ] No one wants my TD?
>
>
>> Kaleb? anyone?
>>
>> Mike
>>
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[MBZ] No one wants my TD?

[slozukimc]

Kaleb? anyone?

Mike


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Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel

[slozukimc]

Kevin,
  That sounds like a sweet bus.  The 4x4 is very rare in the busses. 
The 6.5 has plenty of torque without a turbo.  I have friend who uses a
6.2 Suburban to pull a 3 Samurai trailer carrying over 7000# and it does
OK and gets great mileage.  Another friend has a 6.2 one ton crew cab
that pulls an equipment trailer and bulldozer quite well.

Mike

> I've come across what seems to be the deal of the century on a small
> Diesel
> bus.  It's a 1994 GMC Vandura cutaway chassis 16 passenger bus with the
> 6.5L
> Diesel engine with only 79K miles on it priced at $3500.  There's no
> mention
> of the turbo, but I thought that the 6.5L was equipped with a turbo.
> Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I'm not since the turbo would breathe
> some life into what would be a dog otherwise.  It would be transporting
> myself and my fellow visually impaired dragon boat paddlers around the
> Pacific Northwest.  I forgot to mention that it's 4wd, kind of unusual for
> a
> bus.  I guess you never know when you'll need it, but hey, it's there just
> in case although it's costing some MPG.
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

[slozukimc]

I haven't posted pics...I will go take some right now and post them ASAP.

That OK with you Kaleb?  To post pics here I mean.

Mike

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
>> deal.
>
> He's in WA.  Don't think you want to drive that far!
>
> I'm 1000 miles away... (Starkville, MS) if I had a car trailer I would
> meet you halfway.  I have a line on a tranny (I think).
>
> Did you ever post any pictures?
>
> John
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

[slozukimc]

Not even remotely close!!  LOLOL

Mike

>> Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
>> deal.
>
> 3000 miles away.  Not practical.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

[slozukimc]

Where are ya Jim?  I'm ready to load it on the trailer for a cash
deal.

Mike

>> If yours was closer I would have been all over it.
>
> ...and that's the story for most of us, probably.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

[slozukimc]

It's 1217 miles from here to ClaremoreI'll bring it 600 for
freemake me a good offer and I'll see about bringing it
further.

Mike

> Let's make a deal Kaleb...I'll bring it 500 miles closer to
> you.
>
> I need some cash by tuesday so it needs to go.
>
> Mike
>
>> Yea, I had a killer list of deals and nobody jumped on them.  Strange.
>> If
>> yours was closer I would have been all over it.
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>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
>>
>>
>>> No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
>>> with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the
>>> price
>>> I am asking.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
 Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out
 of
 bounds for my needs.
 Thanks - BillR

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

 Bill,
   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
 nice,
 brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for
 a
 week
 and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel
 tank
 needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
 filter.
 That's about what i know about it.

 I am in Montour Falls, NY.

 Mike

> Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
> three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
> BillR
> Jacksonville


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

[slozukimc]

Let's make a deal Kaleb...I'll bring it 500 miles closer to
you.

I need some cash by tuesday so it needs to go.

Mike

> Yea, I had a killer list of deals and nobody jumped on them.  Strange.  If
> yours was closer I would have been all over it.
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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
>
>
>> No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
>> with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the
>> price
>> I am asking.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of
>>> bounds for my needs.
>>> Thanks - BillR
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:52 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
>>> nice,
>>> brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a
>>> week
>>> and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel
>>> tank
>>> needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
>>> filter.
>>> That's about what i know about it.
>>>
>>> I am in Montour Falls, NY.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
 Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
 three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD  292k miles

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 NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

 Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles
 for $1000 cash.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

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No problem BillI guess I will have to E-bay it.  I thought
with the price these things go for it would be gone days ago at the price
I am asking.

Mike

> Thanks Mike, but it sounds like the distance and repairs put it out of
> bounds for my needs.
> Thanks - BillR
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Bill,
>   It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives
> nice,
> brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a
> week
> and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel tank
> needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
> filter.
> That's about what i know about it.
>
> I am in Montour Falls, NY.
>
> Mike
>
>> Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
>> three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
>> BillR
>> Jacksonville FL
>> 1981 300SD  292k miles
>>
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>>
>> NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!
>>
>> Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles
>> for $1000 cash.
>>
>> Mike
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

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I'll work with you on delivery over 500 miles if you are really interested.

Mike

> OK, you called it before I did - but I think you are a bit out of the 500
> miles delivery range ... And I might be also.
> Mike - I could take delivery in Atlanta also.
> BillR
>
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> Yeah I'll have it, delivery it to Adelaide, SA please.
> Cheers mate
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>> NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!
>>
>> Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles
>> for
>> $1000 cash.
>>
>> Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

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Bill,
  It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers.  Other than that it drives nice,
brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works.  I only drove it for a
week and the tranny went on me.  Has some cancer but not too bad.  Fuel
tank needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel
filter.  That's about what i know about it.

I am in Montour Falls, NY.

Mike

> Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her
> three
> kids for a few months- if this fits the bill.  Where are you?
> BillR
> Jacksonville FL
> 1981 300SD  292k miles
>
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>
> NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!
>
> Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles for
> $1000 cash.
>
> Mike
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[MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?

[slozukimc]

NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!!

Who would like to have my 83 300TD?  I'll deliver it within 500 miles for
$1000 cash.

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Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?

[slozukimc]

I wonder what ever happened to the days when if a garage wanted your
business they would come tow the car(within a few miles) to the shop at no
charge.  Labor rates have gone up, pay hasn't much, for the mechanic not
the boss...

Mike

> Ahh, I do see an "in-transit permit on nysdmv.com" Hmm, I kinda think
> they
> might figure out that I've already registered the car before and not let
> that one fly...  And I suppose if I have to pay $10, it's not THAT much
> worse to pay $46 or whatever just for the ease of dealing with it,
> especially for probably more than 30 days...
>
> Thanks for the info though!
> Levi
>
> On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Go to the DMV, prove you have insurance and fill out the form for a 30
>> day
>> temporary transit tag.  Allows transporting to and from certain places
>> as
>> stated when you fill out the formYou might want to fib a little
>> about what you intend to do with it.Costs a whoppin huge 10
>> bucks
>> and the title doesn't even have to be in your name!!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> > Where/how can you get a paper tag for $10?  I thought NY was a pain
>> cause
>> > there was no such thing as a temp tag?  Or is this something else?
>> >
>> > Levi
>> >
>> > On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If it will run and drive you can put insurance on it and buy a paper
>> >> tag
>> >> for 10 bucks.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> > Do you folks have "repair plates"? Around here the garages usually
>> >> have
>> >> a
>> >> > repair plate that can be used to
>> >> > transport a vehicle to the garage. The garage will usually lend
>> you
>> >> the
>> >> > plate in order to get the vehicle in.
>> >> >
>> >> > Some places also will sell you a one day permit to move a vehicle.
>> I
>> >> know
>> >> > you can get one here to move a vehicle to
>> >> > another province. Don't know if you can get one to move a vehicle
>> >> within
>> >> > the province. Would probably have to have
>> >> > a current safety certificate to do that in any event.
>> >> >
>> >> > Another option is to get a tow truck. It will be cheaper in the
>> long
>> >> run
>> >> > than a ticket or an accident if you get
>> >> > caught or if things go wrong. I had a Jeep towed home for my
>> younger
>> >> son
>> >> a
>> >> > month or so ago and and it cost $70 for
>> >> > a tow of 5 miles or so. I was tempted to tow it behind one of our
>> >> trucks
>> >> > but also thought it would cost more than
>> >> > the tow to replace the back bumper on the truck if the Jeep
>> happened
>> >> to
>> >> > bump me.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have towed with  just a rope. I towed a friend about 35 miles.
>> He
>> >> had
>> >> a
>> >> > mid 80's full size Cadillac with an
>> >> > engine knock. He kept the motor running to provide power steering
>> and
>> >> > brakes and I towed him with my old Chevy
>> >> > pickup. It was pretty smooth. You really want to be able to trust
>> the
>> >> > other driver no matter whether you are in the
>> >> > tow vehicle or the towed vehicle.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also towed a Chevy pickup home from about 50 miles away on a 1/2"
>> >> nylon
>> >> > rope behind a Ford pickup many years ago.
>> >> > No real problem. I drove the tow vehicle and my father steered the
>> >> towed
>> >> > vehicle. I don't think he trusted me to
>> >> > not hit him from behind. I was pretty young then and he just
>> >> instructed
>> >> me
>> >> > to keep the speed down to about 40 mph
>> >> > and let him worry about not running into the back of me. It was
>> >> pretty
>> >> > hilly country and we slowed a bit going up
>> >> > hills but there was not much traffic and we got home fine.
>> >> >
>> >> > Randy - in Winnipeg
>> >> >
>> >> > -Original Message-
>> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:43 AM
>> >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> >> > Subject: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an
>> unregistered
>> >> car
>> >> > in
>> >> > NY?
>> >> >
>> >> > I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone
>> >> else
>> >> do
>> >> > it, but it's not registered...  I'm thinking I would tow it down
>> and
>> >> then
>> >> > maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs
>> >> then),
>> >> > but
>> >> > it wouldn't have plates either way...  And it does go right past a
>> >> police
>> >> > station...
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone know if that's legal or not?  I was thinking it was...  But
>> >> then
>> >> I
>> >> > couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer
>> >> without
>> >> > plates...
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Levi
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Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?

[slozukimc]

My friend Travis and I towed his new to him Subaru Legacy home to NY from
MD with two ratchet straps tied together to make a tow strap after the
towbar broke.

Mike

> "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Well, I'm not sure of our level of "civilization" here.  I imagine I
>> could
>> just tow it down there and back without issue.  BUT...  it's enough of
>> a
>> hassle as it is that I'm not sure I want to chance it.  Just depends on
>> the
>> cop.  I'm sure there are good ones out there, but personally I've yet
>> to
>> really meet one that helped me(some just weren't as MUCH of a pain as
>> others) and generally they have only caused me pains...
>
> Friend of mine once towed a Ford Fairmont across the Indiana Toll Road
> with a length of rope.  No hassle at all, he went through the manual
> toll lanes and several cops passed him on the journey (according to
> him).  He did have plates on it though.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?

[slozukimc]

Go to the DMV, prove you have insurance and fill out the form for a 30 day
temporary transit tag.  Allows transporting to and from certain places as
stated when you fill out the formYou might want to fib a little
about what you intend to do with it.Costs a whoppin huge 10 bucks
and the title doesn't even have to be in your name!!

Mike

> Where/how can you get a paper tag for $10?  I thought NY was a pain cause
> there was no such thing as a temp tag?  Or is this something else?
>
> Levi
>
> On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> If it will run and drive you can put insurance on it and buy a paper
>> tag
>> for 10 bucks.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> > Do you folks have "repair plates"? Around here the garages usually
>> have
>> a
>> > repair plate that can be used to
>> > transport a vehicle to the garage. The garage will usually lend you
>> the
>> > plate in order to get the vehicle in.
>> >
>> > Some places also will sell you a one day permit to move a vehicle. I
>> know
>> > you can get one here to move a vehicle to
>> > another province. Don't know if you can get one to move a vehicle
>> within
>> > the province. Would probably have to have
>> > a current safety certificate to do that in any event.
>> >
>> > Another option is to get a tow truck. It will be cheaper in the long
>> run
>> > than a ticket or an accident if you get
>> > caught or if things go wrong. I had a Jeep towed home for my younger
>> son
>> a
>> > month or so ago and and it cost $70 for
>> > a tow of 5 miles or so. I was tempted to tow it behind one of our
>> trucks
>> > but also thought it would cost more than
>> > the tow to replace the back bumper on the truck if the Jeep happened
>> to
>> > bump me.
>> >
>> > I have towed with  just a rope. I towed a friend about 35 miles. He
>> had
>> a
>> > mid 80's full size Cadillac with an
>> > engine knock. He kept the motor running to provide power steering and
>> > brakes and I towed him with my old Chevy
>> > pickup. It was pretty smooth. You really want to be able to trust the
>> > other driver no matter whether you are in the
>> > tow vehicle or the towed vehicle.
>> >
>> > Also towed a Chevy pickup home from about 50 miles away on a 1/2"
>> nylon
>> > rope behind a Ford pickup many years ago.
>> > No real problem. I drove the tow vehicle and my father steered the
>> towed
>> > vehicle. I don't think he trusted me to
>> > not hit him from behind. I was pretty young then and he just
>> instructed
>> me
>> > to keep the speed down to about 40 mph
>> > and let him worry about not running into the back of me. It was
>> pretty
>> > hilly country and we slowed a bit going up
>> > hills but there was not much traffic and we got home fine.
>> >
>> > Randy - in Winnipeg
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:43 AM
>> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> > Subject: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered
>> car
>> > in
>> > NY?
>> >
>> > I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone
>> else
>> do
>> > it, but it's not registered...  I'm thinking I would tow it down and
>> then
>> > maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs
>> then),
>> > but
>> > it wouldn't have plates either way...  And it does go right past a
>> police
>> > station...
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that's legal or not?  I was thinking it was...  But
>> then
>> I
>> > couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer
>> without
>> > plates...
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Levi
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Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?

[slozukimc]

If it will run and drive you can put insurance on it and buy a paper tag
for 10 bucks.

Mike

> Do you folks have "repair plates"? Around here the garages usually have a
> repair plate that can be used to
> transport a vehicle to the garage. The garage will usually lend you the
> plate in order to get the vehicle in.
>
> Some places also will sell you a one day permit to move a vehicle. I know
> you can get one here to move a vehicle to
> another province. Don't know if you can get one to move a vehicle within
> the province. Would probably have to have
> a current safety certificate to do that in any event.
>
> Another option is to get a tow truck. It will be cheaper in the long run
> than a ticket or an accident if you get
> caught or if things go wrong. I had a Jeep towed home for my younger son a
> month or so ago and and it cost $70 for
> a tow of 5 miles or so. I was tempted to tow it behind one of our trucks
> but also thought it would cost more than
> the tow to replace the back bumper on the truck if the Jeep happened to
> bump me.
>
> I have towed with  just a rope. I towed a friend about 35 miles. He had a
> mid 80's full size Cadillac with an
> engine knock. He kept the motor running to provide power steering and
> brakes and I towed him with my old Chevy
> pickup. It was pretty smooth. You really want to be able to trust the
> other driver no matter whether you are in the
> tow vehicle or the towed vehicle.
>
> Also towed a Chevy pickup home from about 50 miles away on a 1/2" nylon
> rope behind a Ford pickup many years ago.
> No real problem. I drove the tow vehicle and my father steered the towed
> vehicle. I don't think he trusted me to
> not hit him from behind. I was pretty young then and he just instructed me
> to keep the speed down to about 40 mph
> and let him worry about not running into the back of me. It was pretty
> hilly country and we slowed a bit going up
> hills but there was not much traffic and we got home fine.
>
> Randy - in Winnipeg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:43 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
>
>
> Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car
> in
> NY?
>
> I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do
> it, but it's not registered...  I'm thinking I would tow it down and then
> maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then),
> but
> it wouldn't have plates either way...  And it does go right past a police
> station...
>
> Anyone know if that's legal or not?  I was thinking it was...  But then I
> couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without
> plates...
>
> Thanks,
> Levi
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Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?

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Levi,
  I tow cars all of the time..It is illegal to tow with a strap unless
the car has tags.

You need to use a towbar to be legal...Simply take a piece of
heavy pipe and run a chain through the middle and attach it to both cars
as tight as you can get itThe cops really look for if you are
being safe and smooth while towing rather than what you are towing with
around here.

If you need, I have a trailer if you have a truckMy truck will be
up and running again soon.

Mike




> Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car
> in
> NY?
>
> I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do
> it, but it's not registered...  I'm thinking I would tow it down and then
> maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then),
> but
> it wouldn't have plates either way...  And it does go right past a police
> station...
>
> Anyone know if that's legal or not?  I was thinking it was...  But then I
> couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without
> plates...
>
> Thanks,
> Levi
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Re: [MBZ] u-pull discovery

[slozukimc]

I am in NY state so maybe

Mike

> If you're in the north east or possibly southern california you might
> stand a chance of finding Iveco parts. They didn't sell too many of the
> things anywhere else in the country. Around here , parts are non
> existent for the things.
>
> Robert
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> So do any of these foreign parts yards have any Iveco trucks in them?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>> I would dicker with the guy at the foreign auto parts salvage yard I
>>> went to occasionally, if I was buying a bunch of little bits.  He was
>>> a
>>> middle eastern guy, seemed to be by way of Mexico, didn't seem to
>>> phase
>>> him a bit, and acted like it was a normal way to do things, which I
>>> think it was.  His first WAG at a price was always ridiculous anyway,
>>> and I think if I hablaed espanol I would have gotten a better deal to
>>> begin with.  But that place now is up for sale, don't know if all the
>>> cars are still there or what.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>> Allan Streib wrote:
>>>
 Visited a u-pull yard (first time at that sort of place) that
 specializes in imports.  It is about about a 30 minute drive from my
 house.  Was not even aware that it existed, until I was referred
 there
 by our local salvage yard.

 Found a left-hand rear "jump" seat for my Nissan Frontier that I have
 been scouring the internet trying to find.  Noted that they had lots
 of late model Benz wrecks, along with Volkswagens, Volvos, BMWs, and
 the lots of Japanese stuff.  Didn't see much in the way of older
 W123s
 etc. but that was not really why I was there.

 Quick question -- do you normally negotiate prices at a place like
 this?  I did not today, as I thought the price was reasonably fair
 and
 I was just happy to find what I was looking for -- but as a general
 practice, is it worth counter-offering at places like this?

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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap? MAKE AN OFFER!

[slozukimc]

No Kaleb offersLOL  I need to get as close to $1500 as I can but I
need parts for my truck so cash talks..

Mike

> Hey All,
>   I have decided to sell my 83 300TD.  I never have time to mess with it
> to even see what is the matter with the transmission.  The engine runs
> great, starts right up no problem.
>
> The fuel tank is rusty and is plugging the primary fuel filter often so
> that needs taken care of and the tranny does nothing.  I think it is
> either the front pump or the ears on the converter gone bad.  I fould a
> new input seal for the tranny in the car so I think maybe someone didn't
> get the TC lined up right when they put it back in.
>
> The hydro rear suspension works fine and the car drives well.  Oh, it
> needs an exhaust too, sounds pretty cool a bit loud though...LOL
>
> Mileage is right around 300K, I'll go look to be exact in a while.
>
> I'll take the first $1500 for it.
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
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Re: [MBZ] u-pull discovery

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So do any of these foreign parts yards have any Iveco trucks in them?

Mike

> I would dicker with the guy at the foreign auto parts salvage yard I
> went to occasionally, if I was buying a bunch of little bits.  He was a
> middle eastern guy, seemed to be by way of Mexico, didn't seem to phase
> him a bit, and acted like it was a normal way to do things, which I
> think it was.  His first WAG at a price was always ridiculous anyway,
> and I think if I hablaed espanol I would have gotten a better deal to
> begin with.  But that place now is up for sale, don't know if all the
> cars are still there or what.
>
> --R
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
>> Visited a u-pull yard (first time at that sort of place) that
>> specializes in imports.  It is about about a 30 minute drive from my
>> house.  Was not even aware that it existed, until I was referred there
>> by our local salvage yard.
>>
>> Found a left-hand rear "jump" seat for my Nissan Frontier that I have
>> been scouring the internet trying to find.  Noted that they had lots
>> of late model Benz wrecks, along with Volkswagens, Volvos, BMWs, and
>> the lots of Japanese stuff.  Didn't see much in the way of older W123s
>> etc. but that was not really why I was there.
>>
>> Quick question -- do you normally negotiate prices at a place like
>> this?  I did not today, as I thought the price was reasonably fair and
>> I was just happy to find what I was looking for -- but as a general
>> practice, is it worth counter-offering at places like this?
>>
>> Allan
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap?

[slozukimc]

Levi,
  There are actually several 123's right in this area.  Many more the
closer you get to Ithaca.

Buy mine and sell yours.LOL

Mike

> Wow, and here I am getting near time to sell my 83' 300D greasecar that's
> located about 20 minutes from there...  Just seems odd since I hardly
> ever
> see any other 123's around...
>
> Levi
>
> On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>   It is in Montour Falls, NY 14865.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>   I have decided to sell my 83 300TD.  I never have time to mess
>> with
>> >> it
>> >> to even see what is the matter with the transmission.  The engine
>> runs
>> >> great, starts right up no problem.
>> >
>> > Where's the car?
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Re: [MBZ] Need Manual trans fast

[slozukimc]

I tend to agree Jim.I had an old Chebbie truck that was bad about
locking between gears if you shifted it too fast...The column shift
bushings were loose.  Had to get under it many times a pry it out of gear
in the middle of traffic..

Mike

> Sadly, I only have one spare.  (If I had two dead rats
> I'd give you one...)  To really twist the knife, though,
> it was sitting in the bed of a pickup truck next to
> its source in the U-Pull one day.  They'd been after
> the clutch or something...  I figured that it wasn't
> going to get any easier than that to procure the spare
> I was interested in.  (For the Frankenheap.)  I didn't
> even have to stoop to pick it up.
>
> Honestly I find it hard to believe that your tranny
> is actually dead.  Locked up, sure.  But I'd think
> you could grab a wrench and dive into it and probably
> get it loose again.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap?

[slozukimc]

If I can get this sold and get the money to fix my truck I will work with
anyone on this list as much as I can to get it delivered for just the cost
of fuel.

Mike

> Hi John,
>   It is in Montour Falls, NY 14865.
>
> Mike
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>   I have decided to sell my 83 300TD.  I never have time to mess with
>>> it
>>> to even see what is the matter with the transmission.  The engine runs
>>> great, starts right up no problem.
>>
>> Where's the car?
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap?

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Hi John,
  It is in Montour Falls, NY 14865.

Mike

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>   I have decided to sell my 83 300TD.  I never have time to mess with
>> it
>> to even see what is the matter with the transmission.  The engine runs
>> great, starts right up no problem.
>
> Where's the car?
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[MBZ] Who wants a 300TD cheap?

[slozukimc]

Hey All,
  I have decided to sell my 83 300TD.  I never have time to mess with it
to even see what is the matter with the transmission.  The engine runs
great, starts right up no problem.

The fuel tank is rusty and is plugging the primary fuel filter often so
that needs taken care of and the tranny does nothing.  I think it is
either the front pump or the ears on the converter gone bad.  I fould a
new input seal for the tranny in the car so I think maybe someone didn't
get the TC lined up right when they put it back in.

The hydro rear suspension works fine and the car drives well.  Oh, it
needs an exhaust too, sounds pretty cool a bit loud though...LOL

Mileage is right around 300K, I'll go look to be exact in a while.

I'll take the first $1500 for it.

Thanks, Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Need Manual trans fast

[slozukimc]

AAAHH!!!  And I just had to tell the lady with the 76 Manny
tranny 240D to sell it to someone else as I needed to spend money to fix
my stinkin truck instead!!

Mike


> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:23:13 -0700 Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Seems I killed it.  The trans in Gump is truly boogered.  Shop wants
>> to tear it down and rebuild since both reverse and at least one other
>> gear are engaged.
>
> I'm not sure why that's a real problem. Did something inside break that
> they can't move the levers to get it out of gear?
>
>
>> Now I am trolling CL looking for donor cars so that I can just take
>> the old one out and have the working one installed.  Then on my own
>> time I can rebuild the one I screwed up.  Great learning experience
>> for me and the boy.
>
> Yes, that's for sure.
>
>
>> Also learned to not be so gung ho about working on stuff I fail to
>> RTFM before jumping in.  It is the small repairs that have resulted
>> in the biggest bills to defornicate.
>
> Oops.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Rear end gear ???

[slozukimc]

Hi Robert,
  Well, that's a good question.  How do I find this out?

Thanks, Mike

> Hello Mike
>
> My Mercedes Technical Data Passenger Cars says it depends
> on which Model you have.  Is it 123.190 0r 123.193 or what?
>
> Given Model 123.xxx  I can tell you what the book says.
>
> No guarantees the ring and pinion haven't been changed.
>
> Robert
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:34:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [MBZ] Rear end gear ???
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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> What gear ratio is the ring and pinion in the rear end of my 83 300TD?
>
> Thanks, Mike
>  >
>
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[MBZ] Rear end gear ???

[slozukimc]

What gear ratio is the ring and pinion in the rear end of my 83 300TD?

Thanks, Mike


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Re: [MBZ] 1967 250S Pickup Conversion, yeah, that's right!

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Yeah, who was that again Kaleb?  I know you told me a while back

Well, I think it was youLOL

Was it B1 maybe?

Mike

>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> You're tempting me JimI have a sweet set of Currie built 9"
>> axles
>> with ARB air lockers and all and my 300TD sitting in the front yard
>> waiting for something to happen to it.
>
> Who was the fellow that made a 300TD 4x4, Brian something or other?
> I think he used a Toyota transfer case and axles.
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Re: [MBZ] 1967 250S Pickup Conversion, yeah, that's right!

[slozukimc]

You're tempting me JimI have a sweet set of Currie built 9" axles
with ARB air lockers and all and my 300TD sitting in the front yard
waiting for something to happen to it.

Mike

>> Here's the ad that I found today on CL, certainly not something you see
>> every day.
>> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/385722268.html
>
> _That's_ what I'm talking about, but in 107 trim.  (Now if it
> could only be diesel, 4wd, and have the hydropneumatic
> rear suspension...)
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?

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Tom,
  That's like saying sulfuric acid would do nothing to the stomach either
just because the stomach contains acidI think we all know
better than that.

Mike

> It does nothing to your stomach since your stomach contains hydrochloric
> acid.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
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>
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>
> Coca-Cola contains phosphoric acidnasty stuff really.  Put a
> piece
> of raw steak in a bowl and cover it with Coke.  Leave it 'til morning and
> see what you have.  Then think about what it does to the
> stomachYeah, I drink it too.
>
> Mike
>
>> Coca Cola and sun shine works like a charm.  No idea how it does it,
>> but a few days later, no oil on the floor.
>>
>> clay
>>
>> On 28 Jul 2007, at 17:19, ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:
>>
>>> Parked my SDL in the garage for about a week while we went to
>>> Jacksonville.
>>> When I came back found a small puddle of oil about 4 X 6 under the
>>> front
>>> left fender.  (It's a leaking oil cooler hose which is getting fixed
>>> tomorrow)  Anyway, what's the best way to get rid of that big black
>>> oil
>>> blotch left in the concrete in my garage?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Angelo Giaimo
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?

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Coca-Cola contains phosphoric acidnasty stuff really.  Put a piece
of raw steak in a bowl and cover it with Coke.  Leave it 'til morning and
see what you have.  Then think about what it does to the
stomachYeah, I drink it too.

Mike

> Coca Cola and sun shine works like a charm.  No idea how it does it,
> but a few days later, no oil on the floor.
>
> clay
>
> On 28 Jul 2007, at 17:19, ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:
>
>> Parked my SDL in the garage for about a week while we went to
>> Jacksonville.
>> When I came back found a small puddle of oil about 4 X 6 under the
>> front
>> left fender.  (It's a leaking oil cooler hose which is getting fixed
>> tomorrow)  Anyway, what's the best way to get rid of that big black
>> oil
>> blotch left in the concrete in my garage?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Angelo Giaimo
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?

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Muriatic acid is used to ETCH concrete..Not good at all for the
floor as if it doesn't actually remove some of the concrete it will soften
the top surface enough that a floor jack will turn it to powder.

Mike

> muratic acid
>
> ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:
>> Parked my SDL in the garage for about a week while we went to
>> Jacksonville.
>> When I came back found a small puddle of oil about 4 X 6 under the
>> front
>> left fender.  (It's a leaking oil cooler hose which is getting fixed
>> tomorrow)  Anyway, what's the best way to get rid of that big black oil
>> blotch left in the concrete in my garage?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Angelo Giaimo
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?

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Try the kitty litter and wood block trickIt works.  One of my friends
father was very anal about the floor in his shop but refused to have it
painted(slippery with oil on it painted) so he used to make AJ grind the
spots out of the floor each evening.

Mike

> Honestly, if your garage floor is coated then clean-up should not be a
> problem. You can wipe up the oil then scrub the floor with any good
> detergent.
>
> The problem comes from when it's not, like my driveway. In this case,
> some
> of the oil actually soaks into the concrete, carrying the black soot in
> with
> it. I've tried everything from Cascade, Coca-Cola, Muriatic acid and a
> pressure washer. Of all of these, the acid was the worse because the acid
> actually etched away some of the driveway surface. And yes, there was
> still
> a stain underneath.
>
> So, I just watch the stains slowly fade over the years & I ignore the
> neighbors' complaints..
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ANGELO GIAIMO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:49 PM
> To: Tom Hargrave
> Cc: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: RE: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?
>
> Tom,
>
> Nice.. Heck, for that matter, I could dump my topsider from the
> last oil change on the floor and spread it around. 
>
> Glad to see you've got a sense of humor.
>
> Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
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> -
>
> "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
> Paint the entire garage floor black?
>
> Seriously, some diesel oil stains on my driveway are over 15 years old.
> They fade with time but they never go away.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "ANGELO GIAIMO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" 
> Sent: 7/28/07 7:23 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?
>
> Parked my SDL in the garage for about a week while we went to
> Jacksonville.
> When I came back found a small puddle of oil about 4 X 6 under the front
> left fender.  (It's a leaking oil cooler hose which is getting fixed
> tomorrow)  Anyway, what's the best way to get rid of that big black oil
> blotch left in the concrete in my garage?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Angelo Giaimo
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?

[slozukimc]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet

Take a smal pile of speedy dry and a piece of 2x4 about 6 inches long or
so and use the wide flat side to grind the speedy dry into the stain like
you were rubbing out paint except alot harder, keep at it and it will
eventually all come out.  You should end up with a very fine powder like
flour if you are doing it right.

Mike

> I've heard that pouring regular fertilizer (y'know, the
> bomb-making stuff) on it to sit will decompose the oil
> and remove the stain.  I haven't really tried it myself
> yet.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] HOAs Re: anyone want a CHEAP 240D Fixer?

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Robert I think you have found the angle to go on!

Screw the whalessave a hillbilly!

Mike

> It's best to just live out in the middle of nowhere, no neighbors to
> worry about .
> Unfortunately, even that doesn't work sometimes. recently, we were
> annexed into city limits and Lately, there's been some subdivisions
> going in a few miles down the road, and whenever the real estate agents
> are having trouble unloading the poorly built overpriced dumps, they
> call code enforcement on every house along the roads going to their
> overpriced subdivisions.This all used to be farmland and hillbilly
> heaven. Put in a bunch of new houses and there goes the neighborhood.
>
> I think that while we're still in the majority, we need to start a HOA
> here and make it a requirement that each dwelling have at least two no
> functioning automobiles with hoods removed in the yard and at least one
> non functioning major appliance on the porch, so we can do our bit to
> preserve traditional Ozark culture :-) Maybe we can get the historical
> society to step in on our behalf ?
>
> -Robert
>
> Kevin Kraly wrote:
>> I don't necessarily like HOA's, but I was thinking of a similar strategy
>> to
>> that of your Mog friend.  Hopefully, we won't have to go through that.
>>
>> Kevin in Portland, OR
>> 1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Frito Lay Cummins 4BT Box Van

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I think I am going to just end up putting a MBZ engine in my next
M37Much cheaper to find than the Cummins and alot more quiet. 
Probably be just for ramming around and parade duty anyway since I bought
a bigger truck.

Mike

>>   I have been looking for one of those vans for a donor for the engine
>> swap in my M37 but have yet to find a great deal on one.
>
> You and everybody else.  That's the problem!
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Frito Lay Cummins 4BT Box Van

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They are not fast by any means but they will pull a huge load.  The TH400
is a good tranny but it is still the weak point in that vehicle.  The 4bt
has alot of torque and gets the automatics pretty hot.  Put a big cooler
on it and run syn fluid.
  I have been looking for one of those vans for a donor for the engine
swap in my M37 but have yet to find a great deal on one.

Mike

> It appears that the dragon boat club is ready to get a mobile transport
> unit
> (MTU) to haul gear and boats to the local races.  Meanwhile, I happened to
> spot 2 of these Frito Lay trucks for sale on CL for around 4K, both with
> fresh 4BT engines.  They seem low tech and reliable with the mechanical
> injection and the old Turbo 400 tranny (not electronically controlled).
> Hopefully, one of the two trucks will work for them.
>
> KEvin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Re: [MBZ] anyone want a CHEAP 240D Fixer?

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BULLCRAP!

My best MBZ was a $500 240D that drove me around for thousands of miles
and cost me almost nothing to maintain.Mac still has it.

Mike

> Repeat after me.
>
> There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes..
>
> Thanks,
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>
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] anyone want a CHEAP 240D Fixer?
>
> For those of you who may be interested in W115
>  Diesels, I've written about this car a time or two along with the '72
> 220D
> in which I've been interested.  I just got off the phone with the owner.
> He
>
> was originally asking $650 for the '72 220D and $750 for the '74 240D.
> someone offered him $500 for both of them but couldn't get them outta
> there
> until Sunday.  Wifey wants them gone ASAP!  I can get them for the $500
> tonight if I want them, but the problem is that i don't have a place to
> park
>
> *BOTH* of them.  The 220D needs the radiator out of the 240D, but I would
> be
>
> willing to make someone a deal on the rest of it which is supposed to be
> in
> good condition.  If anyone is looking for W115 240D parts, I will have a
> pretty good idea of what's there as well as condition.
>
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Re: [MBZ] anyone want a CHEAP 240D Fixer?

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Why do you have to be on the other side of the country with your good
deals???  I just spoke to a lady about buying a 76 240D with 60K
original miles and manual trannySupposed to go pick it up on
Tuesday.  It runs great but is VERY rusty.

Mike

> For those of you who may be interested in W115
>  Diesels, I've written about this car a time or two along with the '72
> 220D
> in which I've been interested.  I just got off the phone with the owner.
> He
> was originally asking $650 for the '72 220D and $750 for the '74 240D.
> someone offered him $500 for both of them but couldn't get them outta
> there
> until Sunday.  Wifey wants them gone ASAP!  I can get them for the $500
> tonight if I want them, but the problem is that i don't have a place to
> park
> *BOTH* of them.  The 220D needs the radiator out of the 240D, but I would
> be
> willing to make someone a deal on the rest of it which is supposed to be
> in
> good condition.  If anyone is looking for W115 240D parts, I will have a
> pretty good idea of what's there as well as condition.
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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[MBZ] OT:Italian truck brakelines suck!

[slozukimc]

  Just thought I would drop a note to let you all hear about my fun with
Iveco truck brakelines.
  I recently bought an Iveco commercial diesel truck and am in the process
of learning everything there is to know about how to fix the air over
hydraulic brake system in a Fiat(fix it again Tony) built truck!
  First the air tanks were rusted through beyond repair so they needed to
be replaced.  Well, guess what, Iveco no longer makes these tanks.  They
are 8" in diameter and 20" long so I figured I would just buy 8" well
casing and caps and build some new tanks...Yeah, right.  The casing
would be $130 and $30 each for 6 caps plus labor to get them all welded
up made that way too much money for the budget right now so I ended up
making up some metric thread to pipe thread adapters and "T"-off to some
20# propane tanks.  That works pretty well for now.
  The brakelines are 6mm with a bubble flare, near impossible to buy and
1/4 inch is 6.3mm so it won't quite fit in the flaring tool or the 6mm
line nuts.  So I have come up with using the flaring bar from a standard
double flaring tool with the rest of the metric bubble flaring tool to
make the flares on the 1/4 inch line and drilling out the 6mm nuts to
1/4".  It's working so far but it's certainly been very time consuming
and tedious work.

Updates as they go.

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Re: [MBZ] Mystery wheel

[slozukimc]

H...I'll have to go to the local Volvo/Saab graveyard and have a
look see.I have seen a wheel like that and if it wasn't on a
Sonnet I am stumped.

Maybe an older Volvo..they has 15's but I don't recall how many lugs.

Mike

>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking maybe from a Saab Sonnet.
>
> Every 97 I've seen had five lugs. I think the same
> applies to 95s and 96s.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT JB Weld repair experiences

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I used quick steel to fix a motorcylcle engine case and it never leaked a
drop.

Met a gent in Alabama with a D9 Cat..Kept blowing head gaskets for
some reason or another, I was a teenager and had no clue about a diesel
then.  He cleaned the hell out of it and applied a layer of JB where the
gasket belonged, tightened the bolts and ran it that way for several
months when he finnally blew a track and decided to junk it.  He took all
of the head bolts out and started the engine and it ran that way!!  The
head actually stayed on the engine even when he revved it up and let it
set there and run full throttle for over an hour before it ran out of
fuel.

The moral of the story; make sure it is clean, clean, clean before
applying JB and it will work well.

Mike

> Yeah, on this bike frame repair, I believe I used regular JB, not the
> Kwik stuff. I didn't really get in there and scrape things or prepare
> it much though.
>
> JB Kwik story: Driving my 68 Coronet from MN to MD, I had an
> alternator bolt fly out at speed and be thrown by the fan into the
> radiator (I didn't use correct spacers). Lost the belt and now had a
> leak in rad. and no alternator charging. Pulled over at an all night
> truck stop somewhere in KS.
>
> One of those things that lets me know someone up there is looking out
> for me, since I had no AAA, and no cel phone and no extra money. Even
> if I could call a tow truck, I could not pay him or anyone else!
>
> The belt was still present on the vehicle (hanging around water pump?)
> and intact. AND the alternator bolt was laying on the cross member.
> AND I had with me all my earthly belongings save what I left behind -
> which means I had not only my tools but my fastener collection.
>
> After trying a tube of stop leak from the truck stop, I pulled out the
> JB Kwik that I had intentionally bought for emergencies. I applied it
> to the area of the hole in the rad. And since it was a cool night, I
> pulled the car over by where I found an electrical outlet. I plugged
> in my trouble light and placed it right next to the repair to warm it
> up. Went to sleep in car - me and my faithful pooch and a couple cans
> of beer.
>
> Not only did I have a trouble-free rest of the trip, but that repair
> is still holding some 8 years later!
>
> Brian
>
> On 7/22/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Did you use JB Weld or JB Kwik? Weld is MUCH stronger but takes longer
>> to set.
>> Its also alot stronger the closer you get to a 50% mix with the hardner,
>> more hardner makes it less strong.
>>
>> I've made some good repairs with JB over the years but often times it
>> takes alot of it...
>> In this case did you grind away the old weld material? If you're just
>> putting a skim over the top it won't work. You'd also have to rough up
>> the existing metal alot. I like to cut slots across the break to give
>> the JB Weld something to stick to.
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:36:07 -0700
>> From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
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>> No, I tried this months ago - maybe a year or so ago.
>>
>> I'm curious, though, why the JB couldn't handle it. I thought it
>> really did a good job of "welding" metal. Perhaps there is just too
>> much stress on a relatively small repaired area?
>>
>> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Mystery wheel

[slozukimc]

I'm thinking maybe from a Saab Sonnet.

Mike

>
>
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>> Looks like maybe an old SAAB wheel..
>
> As soon as I read 15" 4 bolt I was thinking Saab 99/900, but
> I don't recognize that wheel. I can guarantee it's not Saab
> from the 1970's, but I guess newer is possible. Maybe a spare?
> VW Beetle also used narrow 15" with four lugs IIRC.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Mystery wheel

[slozukimc]

Looks like maybe an old SAAB wheel..

Mike

> I talked to a guy a little while ago who has had a Mystery Wheel kicking
> around his garage for a couple of decades.  He has no idea from whence
> it might have come:
>
> http://thomas.savage.org/wheel.jpg
>
> Here's all I know about it:  "It is 15"dia x 4"wd w/ a 4 bolt circle
> 4.5" dia w/ an offset of approx. 3.6" from the back of the 5" total
> width of the rim. The numbers/letters BA or 8A with the numbers 41772
> are cast on the front of the wheel. the wheel is oxidized some but is in
> good shape. Thanks for your help and it is for sale."
>
> Any guesses?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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