[MBZ] 2007 E350 no start
Hi everyone, long time no see. A friend has a 2007 E350 wagon M272 with 140k miles that won't fire, it just cranks and cranks. I pulled codes and it shows P0011 cam timing, bank 1 position A (intake); P0271 Powertain, which google says is associated with the first code; and P0521 Oil pressure switch. I checked the cam solenoid magnet and it had the common failure mode of oil leaking through the connector at the top, so I installed a new one from the dealer this morning. Still no start. Anyone familiar with these engines? I keep reading about balance shaft problems, but I'm not sure if that will cause a no start like this. The P0521 looks like it may actually be a stuck flap in the intake manifold, but I'm not seeing any association with a no start. This is hard without a manual or proper diagnostic equipment! Any ideas? Thanks, Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons
I used to have a cheap Wal Mart iron, and it was a cheap Wal Mart iron and ironing clothes was a hassle. Then Misheil and I got a German-made Rowenta as a wedding gift and it is hard to describe how nice an iron can actually be. We have an earlier version of this model and if it isn't the S-Class of irons, I don't know what is. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FEBPG3G/ Tom On Jun 19, 2016 8:35 AM, "Craig via Mercedes"wrote: > Shirley's 30 year old clothes iron broke recently, so we need to replace > it. > > In the vast experience of this list, is there one to be preferred? Or > should we just go to WallyWorld and buy what they have? > > Thanks, > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Curley car?
Curley, is this your car? http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/cc-outtake/cc-outtake-1966-heckflosse-reporting-for-duty/ Ton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '06/'07 E3230CDI?
On May 6, 2016 12:01 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes"wrote: > > WILTON via Mercedes wrote: >> >> Yep, I much rather have gotten an '06 E320CDI > > > Was '06 the first V6 or the last I6? > For some reason I was thinking the '05 was the last inline 6 diesel. > Or was '06 the last one without the auxiliary pee tank? > '06 was the last year for the inline six. V6 and particulate filter started in '07. I'm not sure when the pee tank and BS runflat tires started but my '09 had neither. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '06 E320CDI
Not direct comparisons, but for what it's worth my creampuff E320 Bluetec with 77k miles was worth $17k in January per my insurance company and my research validated that. The not-quite-as-nice '09 Bluetec that replaced it I purchased in Texas in January for with 78k for $16,500. State Farm then valued it for $18,950 in Missouri in March. If only the car had a title I could get a check for it. Happy shopping. The W211 cars are really nice and don't be afraid of the V6 - it is a good mill and acompanied by a number of updates and the excellent 7-speed transmission. I have a few surplus maintenance items and parts for these cars if you end up with one, since Kaleb seems to have lost interest. Tom On May 2, 2016 8:09 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have seen them anywhere from under 8k to 15k. I would think about 10-12k would be about right. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2016, at 7:19 AM, WILTON via Mercedeswrote: > > What should I pay for '06 E320CDI w/maybe 50 kmi? > > What if it has 100 kmi? > > Wilton > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Febi 08971 on sale
On Apr 8, 2016 7:35 AM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" > > Too bad Ryder no longer rents out 722.6 Sprinters. Four years ago I could get a case (12 qts) of Shell 134 from Ryder Fleet Services for something like $80 delivered. Now they don't stock it. If there was a closeout sale, I totally missed it. > Well, I have 10L of the stuff in genuine MB packaging that I can no longer use... No reasonable offer refused, only some unreasonable offers refused. Also have a filter 221 277 01 95, gasket 220 271 03 80 and new pan bolts for a 722.9. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW
On Mar 28, 2016 9:48 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes"wrote: > > They are still selling vergassers - and doing many repairs - were they > claim to make their money. They're at least trying to sell gassers. Most of the VW dealers I've visited in the last week seem to be following the Mitsubishi model: a used car dealer with a few new cars sitting in the showroom. Gas model values are way down as well, if not as badly as the diesels. I started looking for another W211 or W212 after the last wreck but decided my heart just wasn't in it, so just bought a 2012 Golf 5-speed instead to try the cheap commuter thing. It was half the cost of another Bluetec and I'm really enjoying it so far. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BLUETEC rumor
My impression is that it is mostly law firms hedging their bets that the scandal will spread, generating plaintiffs lists. I have been seeing a lot of targeted ads about this after shopping for parts but have not found any evidence through legitimate news channels. Tom '09 e320 Bluetec On Feb 25, 2016 5:56 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes"wrote: > I saw some speculation the other day that MB might have done what Audi is > alleged to have done but nothing since. Who knows, maybe some dizzel > owners (hey. I resemble that!) trying to get on the gravy train. > > --R > > On 2/25/16 6:38 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > >> Friend & fellow,MB nut said there,was,something on Facebook about BLUETEC >> scandal similar to TDI. Anybody know about that? >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> 1982 300CD >> 1990 300D >> Wickford RI >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sources for Parts
On Jan 20, 2016 10:39 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes"wrote: > > Bob, > > I like to order from MB Northlake (in NC) for dealer stuff. > > http://mbnorthlakeparts.com/ > FYI on MB Northlake, don't call to order parts. The website prominently displays the phone number and doesn't state that you have to order online to get the online price. I had a shipping time question w.r.t. the holidays so I called to order... they were pretty annoyed when I called later to ask for a refund of the difference but did make good on it. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
Well, the repair estimate just by walking around the car and using "used, reconditioned, or aftermarket" parts came to $14,500, so I guess it is worse than it looks. Apparently an offset crash like that is particularly difficult to straighten out. On the upside, I settled with the insurance company on Friday after more contretemps than should be necessary, and purchased a one-owner 2009 Bluetec with the same mileage for less than I got for my 2007. We pick it up in Texas on Saturday. Tom On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So how bad would that be to "fix"? It doesn't look that bad but I guess > if the body/frame is all buggered that's pretty much it. Seems like most of > the car and its bits would not have been affected, might be worth buying it > back if you could knock them down on the price of the hulk. > > --R > > On 1/13/16 8:59 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote: > >> Attached are a few pics of the carnage. >> >> Tom >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
North Riverfront, just north of downtown. Here's the neighborhood where I work: http://builtstlouis.net/northside/northbroadway01.html The wreck was on Hall Street, which is a sort of a Fury Road-meets-depressed Midwestern industry speedway. I live in St Charles, and the River is an effective protective rampart against the crime and dysfunction. Tom On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:47 PM, fmiser via Mercedeswrote: > > Tom wrote: > > > > This did happen in the Detroit part of town, so services > > expectations are pretty low. > > Where is the "detroit" part of town. And are you still > in/near St. Louis? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wrecked E320
So the E320 Bluetec is a probable total after some jerk ran a stop sign on Saturday. I'm a little sore but okay. The adjuster had asked if I'd like to retain the car, and I'm thinking about it since I'd like to replace it with the same model, and especially since two weeks ago I spent over $1000 on tires, a steering angle sensor, and maintenence. Questions for those who have done this sort of thing: I am thinking I could strip most of the trim, black boxes, and accessories from the car over a weekend and eBay it over the next few months for easy money - what am I missing? Pull the engine complete, or pull injectors, turbo, intake, etc and list piecemeal? Not sure I have room to pull an engine in the garage. And finally, am I delusional or is this an economically viable weekend(s) activity? I do have plenty of room in the basement to store everything. Thanks, Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
On Jan 13, 2016 6:45 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"wrote: > > Tom, > > Sorry to hear about your loss. The 1998 S420 is still going strong at 281k - maybe I can talk oldest son to make you a deal on it? That is actually half tempting - that car remains the best I've ever owned. > I will warn you that this takes a significant investment in time and effort, so if you put a value on your time it might not be worth it. That is kind of the conclusion I've come to today. Looks like I can retain the car for $3052 and maybe I lack vision, but I just don't see 4,000 "easy" dollars in it. I'm not very interested in eBaying a bunch of small parts at $20 a throw. Unless Kaleb wants it for $3052 plus a six pack... Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
On Jan 13, 2016 11:45 AM, "Craig via Mercedes"wrote: > > > I'm sorry to hear of your loss. It's really frustrating and a > disappointment when a great car you own is destroyed. May you navigate > the insurance hurdles successfully. > Thanks, Craig. I'm at least off to a good start on the hurdles (although my Hyundai Elantra rental smells like cigarettes and potpourri). Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
On Jan 13, 2016 8:37 AM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" > > Glad you are ok, but if you have not already, get checked out by a doc. Some things don't show up until later. > This is good advice. I went to urgent care shortly after and checked out okay. Of course, my neck is so full of osteoarthritis already that I wonder how much I'd notice a small injury. Strangely an ambulance didn't show at the scene even though a passenger in the other car had a bleeding cut on his forehead. This did happen in the Detroit part of town, so services expectations are pretty low. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
On Jan 13, 2016 7:10 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"wrote: > > That sounds like a very high price for a severely damaged car. I was under the impression that insurance companies were quite willing to deal if you dug in your heels. > Of course I suppose on the one hand you're telling them what a rare and awesome car it was to get more money out of them for it, then you've got to tell them what a heap it is to get it back cheap... Yeah, I was thinking $2000, maybe even $1500. Apparently being a diesel has a big impact on value. I built a pretty good rapport with the adjuster over the phone yesterday, and he told me today that he recorded it as a condition 1 when he went to inspect it this afternoon, so that helps. But I haven't received a settlement offer yet, either, so we'll see. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
On Jan 13, 2016 9:59 AM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes"wrote: > > Too bad, glad you survived mostly intact. > > Where is you/the car? St Louis. Be ever vigilant when driving in the ghetto. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrecked E320
On Jan 13, 2016 10:26 AM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes"wrote: > > All the Bluetecs are V6, right? I think so; mine is. > > What's it cost to keep it? > > When my dad totaled mom's Malibu, literally less than a week and 200 miles after > I sent him to Tire Rack for new tires, he gave the adjuster the receipt and the > adjuster increased the offer by half the cost of the tires, the theory being > that the average car had half gone tires, so a car with brand new tires was > worth an extra half the value of the tires. The adjuster told me today to fax in all recent receipts and he'll see what he can do; it sounded pretty promising. I installed new OE wiper blades last week and nabbed them when I went to get my plates and personal items this evening, so I have forty bucks back already. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] someone needs this
On Nov 9, 2015 5:26 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes"wrote: > > But it's a hybrid and will save you money and Gaia! You could put an Obama or Bernie sticker on it and be good to go! > Just think of the torque curve with a 114 hp elective motor supplementing a twin turbo gas engine. And you can sign me up for that heated steering wheel option, too. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
On Sep 25, 2015 9:18 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"wrote: > > With a cheap Chinee piece of glass. That's the "FUYGO" stuff. My glass people don't recommend it. > > If I want Pilkington it's closer to $300 reusing my molding. This sounds better than the new windshield in your '98. "We only use PPG glass." Later... "No, I said PGW." Also, this, no joke, is the guy who installed it, in case you were wondering why all the trim clips are broken: https://youtu.be/38EhaJ3iJGU Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
On Sep 25, 2015 9:11 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" > Genuine glass is worth the money and usually not so expensive. I put a > windshield in my 300CD earlier this year and it was surprisingly cheap. > In 2007, I bought a Gullwing windshield from the dealer for $550. No one could believe it. I've learned my lesson. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 LWB sighting
On Aug 26, 2015 6:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: how often do you see a LWB on the street? I think I've posted this before but I saw one in Beijing a while back. https://www.dropbox.com/s/oisj0f90ruopjcz/DSCN4632.JPG?dl=0 At first I assumed it was just an old taxi that somehow snuck in and had the badge replaced, and paid no attention. Now I wonder if it could have been one of the rarest of W123s, built by First Auto Works. http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20307#/forumsite/20929/topics/20307 This was in 2006, when you could still see interesting cars in China. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If You're Gonna Go, Go in Style
That's nice but the jaloponist in me wants to go like this: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/qqmy3b3cpl0k4p5/AABybINWvDY9J417aF71tMkka I guess I should ask Curt if he's encountered any Filipino funeral processions/parades yet... Tom On Jun 14, 2015 7:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Like this: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/mercedes-benz/w12/1963/311989?plugin=trueplugin_id=181529 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hey WILTON
On Jun 13, 2015 8:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Tommy, You need to go to the tent sale. It’s well worth the trip and you can snag some unbelievable deals on A-E shoes. Definitely an item on any A-E wearer’s bucket list. And you can meet up with the Doobie Brothers while you’re there. Well, at least one of them. Well, I am driving through Wisconsin on Tuesday... but do you really get better pricing on site than over the phone? It is moot, alas; between vacation, new glasses, and a broken dishwasher, I'm not buying any shoes this month (or next). Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD
Andrew, Another option is to take off my hands the Made in Germany Balo rotors I've had in my basement for the last ten years. P/N 123 421 00 12 (replaces 115 421 14 12) They're yours (or anyone's if you decline) for shipping cost. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes/Packard prototype
Here's something interesting I've never heard of: the W122. http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/design-history-packards-request-almost-fulfilled-by-mercedes-benz/ Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT fuel economy
On May 27, 2015 11:45 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Last weekend, my son and I went to the lake. We are in Winnipeg and we go to Sioux Narrows on Lake of the Woods about 45 minutes south of Kenora. Completely off-topic, but speaking of Lake of the Woods... My wife and I are going to Winnipeg in a few weeks from Minnesota, and I was looking at crossing at International Falls and taking Hwy 71 north of the Lake. It looks much more scenic than crossing at Warroad/Sprague, but over an hour longer. Is the northern route worth the extra time? Thanks, Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 109
On May 27, 2015 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No, I meant what I said. The original 109 had the M189, which is a modified 300SL engine first used in the Adenour outside the 300SL, so the original 109 300SEL was a 4 door version of the 300SL. With the M130, it had no ties to the 300Sl, except maybe the differential. But you meant to mean that the 300SL's M198 (direct injection) and the W109's M189 (indirect injection) were both modified M186, right? The direct injection engine in the 300Sc (M199?) was a modified M198. Tom Pedant hat on ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Allen Edmunds
What the hell is Allen Edmonds? Really high quality American-made shoes. Nicer than whatever you're wearing right now. AMEX has an offer, spend $200 at AE and get a $50 one time credit on your card. Seems like a good deal. I know you have a penurious cant - have you been to shoebank.com? Factory seconds on sale right now. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Once seen cannot be unseen
On May 12, 2015 9:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/50-000-will-buy-you-a-toyota-prius-that-sleeps-four-1703773020 I like that a lot, though it probably makes more sense in Japan. Would the reaction be better to a Toppola? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toppola Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Shoes for the 240D/3.0
On May 8, 2015 11:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes Those or primewell, a cheep badyear brand are all that seem to be available locally. Primewell is Firestone's private label brand made by GITI in China and Indonesia. They are supposedly about as good as it gets in the cheap tire realm. Tom Bridgestone or bust! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is the car for poos
On Apr 25, 2015 7:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Most of them are probably pretty rare on a S320, except for ASR and heated seats. It would be something to see a S320 with Burl Walnut, rear sunshade, power rear seats, rear climate control, and SLS, wouldn't it? My S420 had burl and a rear shade but somehow lacked heated seats, as I was unimpressed to discover the first brisk morning my ownership. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
On Mar 9, 2015 11:42 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 2004 - 06 were the last straight six diesel engines, cars sold in the US after that have V6 engines. I'd prefer the straight six, I think that design has proven itself to be very robust. I think the V6 engines are less dependable, but I don't have any data to back that up. I also have the impression that the straight six is easier to work on. The V6 has the turbo buried between the cylinder banks. -- An inline six is almost always preferable to a V6, cetaris paribus, but I haven't found the V6 OM642 to be bad at all as far as maintenance is concerned. The turbo is right up top (which is good since the inlet pipe airways leaks oil), along with the fuel and oil filters, and there is plenty of room to work at the front. The air filter arrangement is a little goofy, though. The V6 also comes with normal brakes and the 7 speed transmission, and the general updates that came with the facelift in '07, but still has 16 wheels. Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. No diesel smoke either; not sure if that is a bug or a feature. I couldn't find an '05-'06 worth buying and my Bluetec was a low mile Okie creampuff so the choice was easy for me. Tom 07 E320 Bluetec 02 Volvo V70 XC all new parts yesterday ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car Data
On Mar 9, 2015 3:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You put in your VIN and it will give you the build sheet data, everything on the car. I did that with the ML we just bought, the dealer guys were all mystified, Where did you get all that? I found the key to the secret safe and they were all noodgie about it. You can access the data card information and more for free through the epc at http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp They'll really be impressed when you go to buy parts and have the shopping list printed out. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Here's the full list: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few months ago. I'm running this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466 I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles. Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car Data
On Mar 9, 2015 8:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I looked at that the other day and it wanted some sort of paid subscription. Is that so? The global version carries a nominal subscription fee, but the version covering US models only is free. It is only available in the US, and a credit card from an American bank is apparently sufficient proof that you are not French. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions
Anyone familiar with the inline six? Isn't it the same v6 as my 1999 e320? The M104 lasted in the 140 all the way to the end. Nice engine but the minimum you'd want in such a car. Unless you can find an S280 with a stick like Princess Diana. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] ML
On Feb 16, 2015 1:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We had ice last night with about 6 of snow today. My ML tires are worn out and waiting on new ones to arrive but even at that it gets around great in this stuff. Wow. Modern all wheel drive systems are amazing. My wife's AWD Volvo will leave a RWD Mercedes in the dust; both cars wearing the same all-season Bridgestones. Until the first stop sign... Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W210 Opinions?
That looks like quite a lot of car for the money. No direct experience but I had a customer who used the same model as a daily driver. He said it was as reliable as any Mercedes and at 150k miles he reported no problems. Apparently the normally aspirated engines are very reliable but brakes are expensive. It looks like a good car for a hooligan - carefully vet prior owners! Tom On Feb 10, 2015 6:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I know little to nothing about the W210. What do you guys think of this: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2261370-fs-2000-e55-amg-128k-miles.html#post11180698 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Biking in the Snow
On Jan 31, 2015 7:16 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: you could make them yourself, but studded bicycle tires are available from a variety or manufacturers, including Schwalbe, Continental, Kenda, Nokian, and others. many of these cost more than the tires some people here put on their cars. I used to deliver newspapers all winter on a cheapie mountain bike. The only real hazard was unshoveled sidewalks after a few freeze/thaw cycles. I still love riding through the woods in the snow; my regular bike on regular mountain bike tires handles up to six inches or so with zero drama, provided the elevation changes are modest. I haven't been able to figure out if studded tires and fat bikes are just GAS (gear acquisition syndrome), or if the disconnect is in my simple midwestern flatlander brain. Tom https://www.dropbox.com/sc/hvomzct2mwc9fl9/AACorWfj7-KrHZrYNLkEOyQta ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
On Jan 5, 2015 4:26 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Early engine management and not OBD compliant Yikes. As a silver lining, I assume this means you have the early, hot rod engine tune? That would explain the 15 mpg. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
On Jan 3, 2015 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, now is the time to buy a used diesel or high mpg gasser. I sure thought I was clever buying the E320 Bluetec last summer when gas was still expensive and diesel was close to parity with premium. I like the car but with a 50 cent price differential and a disappointing 30.3 mpg it will be a while before I get to feel clever again. On my easy highway commute I averaged 20.6 in now-Dan's S420. Maybe I should put more air in the tires. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Yeah but they have those goofy brakes and besides, I couldn't find any that didn't have a zillion miles and spotty service history. The Bluetec only had 36k miles on it, and all records from the dealer. The V6 is more complicated but doesn't seem to be less reliable. Tom On Jan 3, 2015 6:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The car to get is the 05-06 cdi straight 6, better mileage more reliable than the v6 blue tec ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
On Jan 3, 2015 6:45 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is fuel price the only reason you choose to drive a diesel? For me it's not. I choose diesel engines for a lot of other reasons, so now that gasoline is cheap (for a while) I loose one of the lesser benefits. Modern diesels have a different set of benefits than the older stuff. They aren't anywhere near as simple. They won't run without electricity or survive an EMP. You can't fix them with golf tees or pour cooking oil in the tank as a party trick. They aren't drop dead reliable compared to their contemporaries, as compared to, say, a W123 vs something with D-jet and a distributor. They will not serve as taxis in Senegal thirty years from now. The new stuff is all about efficiency, range, and torque. Torque is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. I also appreciate the unique technical aspects compared to every other silver E class out there. It is still less expensive to operate than a gas E320 and I really like the car so I'm not complaining, but the advantage is smaller than it was a few months ago. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] my off topic word for the day
Btw, have you contacted AE directly about your Globetrotters? Tom On Aug 7, 2014 6:42 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: chromexcel -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] New W211
Well, I've placed a deposit on an '07 E320 Bluetec with a scant 36k miles. Car is in Oklahoma City and I have the logistics worked out to go fetch it, with the exception of talking Kaleb into buying my S420. Hint, hint. Free delivery... Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
On Jul 28, 2014 10:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I wasn't sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the outbound ride but the rest of the trip was all with a paper map... -Curt Of course I'd prefer to stick with my phone which is more or less always up to date and my trusty 1999 Rand McNally (probably due for an update), but the car comes with nav and it takes up a lot of prominent real estate on the dash. Need to know I can expect to use it for the duration even though by time I'll be done with the car it will look as quaint as an in-dash 8 track player does today. Kids these days sure get a kick out of the tape deck in the 140. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
Jaime, I need help, too! I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007. I have paid zero attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system solid? What about upgradability? Thanks, Tom It turns out 140s do rust, after all ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.