Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
virus On Jul 6, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Rdeafboy wrote: > http://meg18.webd.pl/csndra.html?kaa=madcxy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leds & flashing
Retail drones at my local store. One guy who used to work there knew his stuff, but when it changed from schucks to oreally, he either got retired or left. clay On Jul 6, 2012, at 5:52 PM, OK Don wrote: > I've found that the NAPA stores often have at least one person on staff who > knows something. Last time I asked questions, they sent a middle aged woman > who knew her stuff about alternators. YMMV. > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:41 PM, clay monroe wrote: > >> I have chatted up the idiots there and they are ignorant. If it is not in >> the computer, it does not exist, nor do they have any idea what I am >> talking about. Somebody higher up the food chain makes order, and may know >> something about cars, or they just want to keep shelves full. Standard >> bulbs they have been unable to assist. Doing the rewire, the dork is >> clueless. Oil or coolant, brain dead on ability to advise. >> >> >> On Jul 6, 2012, at 4:04 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: >> >>>> LED bulbs are great at lowering the amperage over all. The problem >> I >>>> now have is that they are not playing well with the blink relay. The >>>> things are now too fast instead of proper timing. Anybody have enough >> electric >>>> thinkers to point me toward how to fix this?.. >>>> >>> There are turn light flashers that are not dependent on current flow for >>> the flash interval which I think are used when additional lights such as >>> trailers are added. The question is does MB use some goofball system >> that won't >>> accept a standard flasher unit. And, changing conventional bulbs to LEDs >> is >>> becomming more common so this is not a new question. Remember that these >> LED >>> replacement bulbs in standard sockets are very directional so don't show >> up >>> well at an angle. >>> >>> Why not drop by O'Reilly's and consult with the counterman? >>> >>> RLE >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 2012 Passat TDI DSG > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oils done dirt cheap
Changed over to castrol diesel stuff. Seems to have a minor impact on pressure. Will keep going with changes and see if it gets better. If the sediment is flushed out that way, I should be able to use M1 clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 6, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Sounds like you're engine has a lot of build up in the engine, due to > extended oil changes. > I have this in my ute, am using Diesel engine oil because it has a higher > amount of detergent, plus I bought a bulk lot of filters off ebay, I change > the oil and filter about every 2.5-3k kmhs. > Also had the low oil pressure thingy in my 300TE, due to using a differnt > oil, back to the Diesel oil (15w-20?) and pressure is back to normal 1 at > idle and up to 3 at about 1500rpm. > > Hendrik > who buys Diesel oil in bulk > > On 03/07/12 02:56, clay monroe wrote: >> I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and >> nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should >> not be the diesel sooting up of oil. >> >> What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead >> and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil >> pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strobing?
Blinker maybe has no impact on energy saving, but you will drop amperage draw using LED for always on applications. BiL changed out all lamps to LED in his rig and amperage went from 70 to 7. clay On Jul 6, 2012, at 8:37 PM, David Bruckmann wrote: > I see the same thing. There's a definite strobing effect with LED taillights > and brake lights. Definitely on GM products; not sure about MB. > > To me, the LED blinkers are purely idiotic. The "afterglow" from an > incandescent bulb increases the chances that you will notice a blinker vs. > light that is instantly absent as the flasher cycles. And I don't buy the > argument that there are any significant energy savings to be had in such an > application. > > D. > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:38:28 -0600, Craig wrote: > >> With subject car about 100 - 150 yards ahead, glance to the left side and >> then slew your eyes to the right side. When I do that, I see the strobing >> very clearly. And, yes, I wear glasses, too, but I cannot see how it >> matters. >> >> >> Craig > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] strobing
I was thinking about swapping in LED to the headlamps. Pretty cost ineffective if that application would not work. The glare shield in the euro lamps reduces light bleed head on and a bit to the side. Not silvered so it does not reflect photons back toward the reflectors. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 6, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Flicker perception is highly variable. My main objection > is the instant-on/off nature more than any modulation > artifacts. Very jarring. And yes, overly bright on-axis, > overly dim off-axis, and hideously expensive when something > does go wrong. I think LED's might have a place in marker > lights, but not for the big lumen jobs. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LED lights idiotic?
I am not planning to subject this car to any known extremes where a less sturdy solution would fail. These are the same lamps as FLAPS peddles, I just went to the source, instead of paying FLAPS to floor them. The car will be put to bed for the winter, and come out to play when moderate temps prevail. All the lenses and things have been cleaned up. I did not see reason to incur fiscal damage by having Classic Center source brand new when these are quite good. They are by no means original equipment. Enough body work has taken place on the car to have newer lighting in the past decade or so. Fresh sheet metal and off the shelf lighting. I wanted to upgrade visibility and reduce power draw on the old wiring clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:14 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > I assume we're talking about putting LEDs in older cars to replace > traditional light bulbs... > > I've found when original lights are not acceptable, its because they need > cleaning or to have the reflectors replaced and new bulbs installed. After > 20 years, things can get pretty cloudy inside a light. Consider it > standard maintenance. > > I'd be very weary to replace a bulb with LEDs unless you buy one of the > pre-made solutions. Home-made solutions simply lack reliability, and do > you really want to risk not having a basic safety feature as lighting? > Will a home-made solution work from -30F to +130F for years? In extreems > of humidity and vibration? The factory solution will... its been designed > tested to do so. > > My opinion: if you want modern technologies in your old car, do it right: > buy a properly engineer solution or buy a newer car. > > Jaime > > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:43 AM, wrote: > >>> ..To me, the LED blinkers are purely idiotic. The "afterglow" from an >>> incandescent bulb increases the chances that you will notice a blinker >> vs. >>> light that is instantly absent as the flasher cycles. And I don't buy the >>> argument that there are any significant energy savings to be had in such >> an >>> application... >>> >> Piffle. >> >> The W204 comes with ordinary yellow bulbs in the rear turn lights or with >> red LEDs if the lighting package is ordered. My C300 had the red rear LEDs >> which I have changed to the Euro yellow LED versions because I know they >> are >> more visible. I've seen all versions and the LEDs , red or yellow, are far >> more visible under all conditions and are impossible to miss. Far safer and >> the LED flasher rate is more rapid. >> >> Nothing to do with energy saving, for crying out loud. >> >> RLE >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heat pump.
That sounds like my situation. Fifteen years ago the messed up electric furnace crapped out in Feb. Three weeks without heat, and getting ready to redo the kitchen. Switch to gas, got the antiquated electric panel upgrade to new, and all new furnace and WH. Old furnace was on knob and tube era wires, but was actually using a pair of 30 amp breakers to power the 80 amp furnace. Wiring was orange extension cord grade, PO had done, and he went to Hawaii every winter so never used it between Nov-Apr. He had also cobbled together five sub panels with a veritable chronological layout of fusing. 1927 house with him living in it from 1940 until 1994. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > Mitch Haley writes: > >> OTOH, the guys on an HVAC forum tell me that a Goodman dealer buys >> from Goodman for substantially less than I paid. Makes me wonder how >> the guys without a dealership who buy from the supply houses can ever >> compete. > > Most people replace their furnace in a panic, in January when it's 5 > degrees outside, and the old one stopped working. They don't have the > presence of mind to do a lot of comparison shopping. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LED lights idiotic?
Would something like this resolve the issue? http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-bulb-turn-signal-hazard-flasher-relay-load-resistor-/360409867522?hash=item53ea1a2502&item=360409867522&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_5953wt_907 If so, where am I supposed to look to find the one on a 1974 w107 that I would swap out? On Jul 7, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Fmiser wrote: >> Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > >> I assume we're talking about putting LEDs in older cars to >> replace traditional light bulbs... > > Yes. > >> I'd be very weary to replace a bulb with LEDs unless you buy >> one of the pre-made solutions. > > That's what Clay did. > >> Home-made solutions simply lack reliability, and do you really >> want to risk not having a basic safety feature as lighting? >> Will a home-made solution work from -30F to +130F for years? >> In extreems of humidity and vibration? The factory solution >> will... its been designed tested to do so. > > The discussion is around how to get the blinking lights to blink > at the correct rate because the flasher drive depends on the > lamp current as part of the timing cycle. The LEDs draw much > less current, so the timing is off. The homemade part involves > modifying the _flasher_ to accommodate the LED current draw. > > And to say "Home-made solutions simply lack reliability" is a > very broad statement. They might lack reliability. So might > the commercial products. If I'm replacing incandescent > lamps with LEDs, my replacements will almost certainly work > better "from -30F to +130F for years? In extreems of > humidity and vibration?". That's the nature of an LED. > >> My opinion: if you want modern technologies in your old car, >> do it right: buy a properly engineer solution or buy a newer >> car. > > My opinion: if you want modern technologies in your old car, do > it right and do it yourself because there is no way to verify > the engineering of pre-made, aftermarket products. > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LED/Xenon headlights?
Roger, a much simpler solution than that. H4 LED lamp. Same as halogen bulb used in the euros On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:13 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: >> I was thinking about swapping in LED to the headlamps. Pretty cost >> ineffective if that application would not work. The glare shield in the >> euro lamps reduces light bleed head on and a bit to the side. Not silvered >> so >> it does not reflect photons back toward the reflectors... >> > You can't because there is no such conversion kit. And if you are thinking > about a Xenon conversion, they put out lots of light but it's too bright to > oncoming traffic because there is no filament and Xenons cannot be dimmed or > flashed. > > My OE Bi-Xenons have a solenoid controlled shutter that drops over the > single bulb for low beam which is the industry standard method. > > RLE >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil flush
I am not flushing the thing. I am going to keep putting fresh oil in, until what comes out looks good longer and less like it was run hard in a diesel engine. On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Might pay to pull the rocker covers off to see what the go is. > If you're game you can do an engine flush but I would definitely want to know > what I am up against. > An engine flush might dislodge all sorts of nasties that can block up the oil > passages. > > Hendrik > who is thinking about a flush for the Izuzu > > On 04/07/12 10:52, Brian Toscano wrote: >> I'd just change oil and filter every 500-1000 miles until that stops. If >> it doesn't get another engine. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, clay monroe wrote: >> >>> It smells like worn out oil. Sad that it should after so few miles or >>> time. Not burned, just used. Like M1 after 6k miles in a 220D. No water >>> in the oil, not whipped up or foamy, no excessive gritty feel to it when >>> rubbed between fingers. It is like an oil vampire sucked all the additives >>> out of it and left anemic oil behind >>> >>> clay >>> >>> >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oils done dirt cheap done M1
M1 did wonders in Gump for 8 years, then the engine suffered metal death on the rocker arms. Metal fatigue at 300kmile On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Well, I reckon you would be foolish to waste $$$'s on M1 in an engine > that is old, sure if you rebuild the engine and it is nice and shiny inside > then extendes M1 use would the go. > > Hendrik > who doesn't use M1 > > On 08/07/12 05:27, clay monroe wrote: >> Changed over to castrol diesel stuff. Seems to have a minor impact on >> pressure. Will keep going with changes and see if it gets better. If the >> sediment is flushed out that way, I should be able to use M1 >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] prescription costs
Concierge care. I use that. Beats the heck out of all the crap you deal with at standard medico visit. Get all the time you need to explore all issues. MD is more relaxed too. Office staff reduced to the two receptionist, instead of a cadre of file clerks and insurance slaves. Easier for them to budget for the year and lower overhead that is reflected in a higher quality experience once you enter the door. clay On Jul 8, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > A doctor (whole practice actually, 4 or 5 doctors) we know started this deal > where a family pays them $1500 annually and all the doctors visits are > covered. Almost like they are forming their own insurance company. > > Allan Streib wrote: >> >> There's a doctor in town here who doesn't take medicare, doesn't take >> insurance. Cash practice. I think I might give him a try. >> > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby
H. I think Darwinian health care is what is needed. If you make the choices that lead to poor health, you get to be on Darwin Insurance. You must pay an amount equal to the money spent on those activities that are impacting your health. Smokes, slurpees, twinkies, candy bars, hookers, meth, video gaming. That is bound to add up over time. On Jul 8, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > G Mann writes: > >> I offer the idea that we educate children to care for themselves and others >> with basic first aid and perhaps advanced care. When I was age 4 a dog bit >> my ear off... my Grandmother sewed it back on, with nothing but grit and >> skill [she was a great seamstress btw.] She had raised 11 children at a >> time when you took care of your own, the country doctor was as good as it >> got, and people stood on their own two feet. > > I do think a big part of the problem is people not wanting to take ANY > responsibility for their own health. You get people 300+ lbs, diabetic, > hypertensive, show up at the ER once a week with some complaint (with a > stop at the 7-11 on the way for cigs, a 64 oz soda and a candy bar), and > expect a shot or a pill to make it all better and when it doesn't happen > they thing they've been wronged somehow. Or maybe they need surgery but > they are in such poor health otherwise that recovery is full of > complications... again they don't want to hear that any of it might be > on them. On top of all that they aren't paying for anything themselves > thanks to medicaid. This kind of stuff sapps a ton of resources out of > the medical system, I'm sure. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: rust converter
POR 15. Three step process that is just as you outline. Wire brush or sand to bare metal and thorough rust removal. Use the marine cleaner they sell. Spray on and agitate any surface dirt that comes off. Rinse it off. Then you use the etching spray as the second part of the process. It needs to be kept moist for about 20 minutes. Turns the rust into a black oxidate and prepares the surface. Get the work site bone dry and you can use pressure spray, roller or brush to coat. This stuff is soupy and cures by moisture. Also thin coating, so it goes a lggg way. brush on will allow enough time to let it set up between coats. Three coats are good. More will not hurt. Rust is never going to go away. You have to cut any rust out to get it gone. The POR encapsulates the rust and any wet that gets on it, just makes it harder. Sadly, the stuff is not UV stable or abrasion/contusion resistant. You then have to use the POR Primer product to etch the surface to accept paint or undercoating. On Jul 8, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > I recall someone posting here about a liquid rust converter that worked > reasonably well. I have some undercarriage rust on my Nissan truck that > I want to try to stop or at least slow down. My plan is to wire brush, > treat, then maybe POR-15 paint over it. > > Thoughts? I'd prefer something I can spray from a hand sprayer, not > anything thick/brush-on. I know that POR-15 has a converter spray. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] prescription costs
And you could conscript the upper level kidlets to intern there to get practice in medical dental office magic. Good for school credit, but probably an insurance nightmare for the district. On Jul 8, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I would like to see our school district go to a district-owned clinic, as > another district in the area has done. > > One of the biggest complaints among the instructional staff is having to take > a day off if they have a doctor's appointment, since it's nearly impossible > to get an appointment at a time that school is out for the day. > > The clinic could run at later hours so people could get in and not have to > take a day off. Not to mention, if we managed our general care, it would be > a heck of a lot cheaper than having paying Humana to do it. > > We have 29,000 employees. Add to that the dependents and you can see the > economies of scale working to our advantage.... > > Dan > > > On Jul 8, 2012, at 9:18 PM, clay monroe wrote: > >> Concierge care. I use that. Beats the heck out of all the crap you deal >> with at standard medico visit. Get all the time you need to explore all >> issues. MD is more relaxed too. Office staff reduced to the two >> receptionist, instead of a cadre of file clerks and insurance slaves. >> Easier for them to budget for the year and lower overhead that is reflected >> in a higher quality experience once you enter the door. >> >> clay >> >> >> >> On Jul 8, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Max Dillon wrote: >> >>> A doctor (whole practice actually, 4 or 5 doctors) we know started this >>> deal where a family pays them $1500 annually and all the doctors visits are >>> covered. Almost like they are forming their own insurance company. >>> >>> Allan Streib wrote: >>>> >>>> There's a doctor in town here who doesn't take medicare, doesn't take >>>> insurance. Cash practice. I think I might give him a try. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Speed trap
Roger will enjoy this anecdote www.extremefunnyhumor.com/picture.php?id=1283/ clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: prescription costs negy5aby
Two benjamins for a co-pay. Sign up to be an agent with the local social services agency and get the obamacare certification. Collection of premiums is simple. All establishments purveying "social" ills will scan your obamacare card when you purchase said items and tally them at the end of the month. Send the data file to the Agency. Each "user" will have his data collated and tabulated. The total is then invoiced to the federal, state and local welfare offices. The funds are deducted from any tax payer funded entitlements. If a negative balance is achieved, the "user" is recalled and fitted with an embedded spinal cord rfid tracker, shipped to an infrastructure labor site and provides for the greater good until his debt is erased. clay On Jul 8, 2012, at 10:31 PM, G Mann wrote: > Hahahaha... so what's the co-pay for the "smokes, hookers, meth twinkie > plan". > > How do you get to be an insurance agent for the Darwinian Agency? Seems > payment collection could pose a problem. ;)) > > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM, clay monroe wrote: > >> H. >> >> I think Darwinian health care is what is needed. If you make the choices >> that lead to poor health, you get to be on Darwin Insurance. You must pay >> an amount equal to the money spent on those activities that are impacting >> your health. Smokes, slurpees, twinkies, candy bars, hookers, meth, video >> gaming. That is bound to add up over time. >> >> >> >> On Jul 8, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Allan Streib wrote: >> >>> G Mann writes: >>> >>>> I offer the idea that we educate children to care for themselves and >> others >>>> with basic first aid and perhaps advanced care. When I was age 4 a dog >> bit >>>> my ear off... my Grandmother sewed it back on, with nothing but grit and >>>> skill [she was a great seamstress btw.] She had raised 11 children at a >>>> time when you took care of your own, the country doctor was as good as >> it >>>> got, and people stood on their own two feet. >>> >>> I do think a big part of the problem is people not wanting to take ANY >>> responsibility for their own health. You get people 300+ lbs, diabetic, >>> hypertensive, show up at the ER once a week with some complaint (with a >>> stop at the 7-11 on the way for cigs, a 64 oz soda and a candy bar), and >>> expect a shot or a pill to make it all better and when it doesn't happen >>> they thing they've been wronged somehow. Or maybe they need surgery but >>> they are in such poor health otherwise that recovery is full of >>> complications... again they don't want to hear that any of it might be >>> on them. On top of all that they aren't paying for anything themselves >>> thanks to medicaid. This kind of stuff sapps a ton of resources out of >>> the medical system, I'm sure. >>> >>> Allan >>> -- >>> 1983 300D >>> 1979 300SD >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] seat motor fix
The passenger seat is out of the 95 e300D. I removed it because the thing would not slide on the rails front and back. Both rear and forward seat elevation motors are able to lift the seat. It also pivot the seat back in both directions. When I use the door controls, all motors fire up or make noise if they are not actually moving the seat. Right now the thing is upside down in the garage. I popped the wire connection cover off so that I could power up each pair of wires and see what they do. Black and white are lift at the front. Yellow and green lift the rear, purple and ? make noise but no motion. I think this is the problematic set. Has anybody done the repair to once more activate motion along the rails to get the dang thing to move toward and away from the dash? All assistance is welcome clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] seat motor fix
I did find a flex cable with out a home. Guess I have to figure out where it escaped from and try to get it to go home. Good task for the morning when I am awake. Right now I am chasing electronic gremlins and cockeyed head light aiming in Frosch. PITA having to remove the dang thing to be able to access the adjustments. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 11, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > The seat is controlled by a cable (like an old-time speedo cable) with an > outer sleeve and an inner flex cable. Probably, the end fittings have worked > their way off the sleeve to the point one of the ends of the flex cable > isn't engaging the socket. Assuming the flex cable isn't broken, you can > probably push one (or both) fittings back onto the cable sleeve and stake it > in place with a nail point. > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of clay monroe > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:47 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] seat motor fix > > The passenger seat is out of the 95 e300D. I removed it because the thing > would not slide on the rails front and back. Both rear and forward seat > elevation motors are able to lift the seat. It also pivot the seat back in > both directions. When I use the door controls, all motors fire up or make > noise if they are not actually moving the seat. > > Right now the thing is upside down in the garage. I popped the wire > connection cover off so that I could power up each pair of wires and see > what they do. Black and white are lift at the front. Yellow and green lift > the rear, purple and ? make noise but no motion. I think this is the > problematic set. > > Has anybody done the repair to once more activate motion along the rails to > get the dang thing to move toward and away from the dash? All assistance is > welcome > > > clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] seat motor fix
Sorry Jim, forgot to say these are the euro lights. Rebuilt them, as the ones I got off ebay had lived underwater and killed the reflectors. Two adjustment screws down low to up/down and sideways adjust. One light broke both these adjustment points so I had to fashion a solution. Side ways no longer functions for sideway adjustment, I have to remove the unit and do it by hand. The other light has decided it too no longer wants to be aimed without removal clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> cockeyed head light aiming in Frosch. PITA having to remove the dang thing >> to be able to access the adjustments. > > Say what? You only have to remove the plastic surround, > a cosmetic device. Leave it off while dialing in the > adjustment. > > -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Larry loves ya
Reminds me of the way ACA was spun by ... clay On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbX22w9qws&feature=fvwrel > > Hendrik > who don't like used car salesmen > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 114/115 parts bonanza
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/pts/3136865465.html not mine, no interest. No parts I can use clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Will these work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/w108-109-111-Fuel-Injector-Set-Bosch-3-5L-Engines-/261062003835?hash=item3cc8820c7b&item=261062003835&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_696wt_1398 Being a hardcore cheap*ss, I much prefer having viable spares at a low price. Is there a major difference in the injectors from the older engine, and those used in the M117 D Jet? clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody need?
http://murphyauction.com/Auction/Details/387 not mine, no affiliation, bound to be all sorts of goodies somebody needs for the car or shop clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel people
I did not take Gump out for extended road trips because she did not have cruise and was manual. After 400 miles, my knees hurt from keeping the Go pedal down. The 17 year old E300D, on the other hand is a joy to drive all over creation. Cruise works, and even with dead ACC, I would take her anyplace. Seattle to Butte, MT or down to Phoenix. Took her from Seattle to DC and then back by way of Horlando. I got 35mpg all day long, and was doing 660 mile days between tanks of fuel. Frosch, on the other hand gets all of 200+ miles on a tank and I would need to rebuild the old Ford/Philco CC to take her beyond a tanks worth of fuel in a day. clay On Jul 18, 2012, at 8:56 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: >> Diesel people are in it long term and do a lot of long haul driving >> on the highway where a diesel excels. A hybrid or electric might be better >> if you did all city driving... >> > Which diesel people? Certainly no one here since all the cars seem be > undergoing repair or searching for parts to do same. I don't see any tales of > long trips in the 40 year old cars so beloved here. > > RLE > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gussied up?
On Jul 18, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: > Take a VW. Gussie it up and you have a porch. > > Gussied up toada = lexi > Gussied up nissan = Ifnititi Gussied up Honda = Akira > Gussied up Shovey = fattylac > Gussied up frod = linkun > > >> > ...Nobody who buys a new MB has any concern over saving money compared to >>> a >>> gussied-up nissan or toyota... >>> >> What does this mean? >> >> RLE > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] fog lense replacement
I sourced some Bosch lamps for Frosch. The glass is not good. One has been sandblasted and rock chipped. The other must have been hit by a larger rock and has a larger hole and cracked all the way. I see fleabay has fresh glass for these things, but I am not able to figure out how the old stuff goes away. It seems to be sealed to the reflector as a unit. Do I apply much heat to soften the seal? I did pry, but all that resulted in was a nice chip off the side of the glass and no movement of the reflector away from the glass. assistance please clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] LED goodness
Being a patient person can be helpful at times. I have been futzing around with Frosch for the past few months. Dodging the rain and seeing how to make up for 38 years of benign neglect. Mostly just age and wear, but nobody spent time or cash to keep the car on the road for at least eight years. Niggling matters that added up. I am really pleased that I got such a complete example for such a reasonable sum. LED upgrade for lighting has reduced the draw on the antique wiring harness. This should allow more sparky things to go to the motor, and fewer electrons to increase entropic effects on the rest of the car. Cooked wire and ancient insulation will thank me. I sourced a pair of Bosch fogs at a PnP not affiliated with the chinese. Volvo or Saab, but with some application of elbow grease, they are now hanging from the bumper. Cracked lenses. Seem to be sealed to the reflector, so I would like to know how to put a good lens on. They use H3 bulbs, and the ones inside were dead. For some reason Frosch never had fogs. Found the wires tucked up below the radiator. Had to put a connector for plugging in the bulb. Removed the old wires, and hooked the Benz wires up. Looks good. WIth LED bulbs and fresh glass, they will look great. Not all kosher, but only a connoisseur would figure out what was wrong about it. I already renovated the tail light and the euro marker/signals to LED. Euro headlamps will remain Halogen, since I was not able to find an LED that gave the photon flow I wanted. With not enough electron draw, the blinker relay thought all the bulbs were dead and went into fibrillation when indicating a turn. Research as to what and where the relay lived was confusing. The various web sites and relay sources thought the blinker relay was part of the hazard switch in the early R107. But Frosch does not have the extra tall hazard switch. So must be where it lives behind the console. But it really lives behind the instrument cluster. Simple three pin relay. So I ordered a cheap chinese relay to see if that would solve the issue. Cheap chinese relays have so far solved the indicator speed issue. Old relay has three pins, 31, 49. & 49a. Chinese has those as well, but in a different configuration. I soldered on two inches of wire to the spade pins and topped that with round pins. Twist the wires into the proper configuration and inserted them into the holes. Timed instead of draw and the lamps tick tick tick, instead of spaz like grand mal. While I had the cluster out, I decided to replace the gauge circuit board. It had cracked all the way and was not making good contact, which I thought may have impact on wonky Tach. Had to unsolder the old wires which had the cluster rheostat for the one on the new board where the rheostat was missing, the wires were twisted to make full bright contact. This should also help the oil pressure gauge, since it lived over the broken board. We will see. Next task will be to refresh the convertible top seals. Both soft and hard top have crumbly old rubber. Heck, all the rubber seals are sad. Not as dead as Gump, so I have some leeway on the doors and trunk. The tops are aged beyond design parameters. The hood pad is aged to the point of crumbling. I have another product, foil covered lint pad. That will be a spring job. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LED goodness
PNW has been subjected to a spate of Pineapple express storms this past month. Heck, since January. We usually have reasonable precip, but the gods of water have decide to spare the rest of the nation this resource and to saturate our lands with garden destroying, mold forming, mushy tomato making, rain. clay On Jul 22, 2012, at 7:07 PM, OK Don wrote: > Remind me, what's this rain you speak of??? > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 8:48 PM, clay monroe wrote: > >> Dodging the rain >> > > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 2012 Passat TDI DSG > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clay's 107
yes, Frosch will be there. I will clay her and give a wax On Jul 23, 2012, at 12:51 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: > Are you planning to bring the car to next month's MBCA show at the Nile > Country Club? I've been working on the C300 for a week or so, one panel at a > time. The engine compartment is done with the interior and glass to be done > the day before. > > Speedshine/paint cleaning clay/Speedshine/buffing with > nano-polish/Speedshine/Paint sealer. Sounds like more work than it is. > > RLE > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clayed by Clay and a wax.
of course. Best brazilian wax carnuba clay On Jul 23, 2012, at 6:31 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: >> ...yes, Frosch will be there. I will clay her and give a wax... >> > Brazilian? > > RLE >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] "Bleeding" Brakes
remove the calipers and work on a bench. should replace fluid every two years and this way you can put fresh fluid in. I doubt you have so much fluid that you would cause it to overflow if you push the caliper open clay On Jul 23, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote: > This submission is a question mainly directed at those individuals who do > their own brake work and have had to deal with this issue. When replacing > disc brake pads that are worn considerably, it is necessary to push back the > wheel cylinder pistons to allow room for the new, thick pads. This normally > results in the fluid backing up to the master cylinder (MC) where it could > possibly overflow, especially if all four wheels are getting new pads. The > only recommendation I have read is to suck out some of the fluid from the MC. > I am asking if this is a good idea. If I were to drain off fluid, I would > prefer to remove it from a wheel cylinder which is the part of the system > most likely to have some contamination, from the constant movement in that > area. (I realize, of course that I am free to do this, and in fact this is > what I did this weekend on my 91 Volvo, using a hose and a jar, though I > suspect I allowed a minute amount of air into the system). > If this is a good way to proceed, would it be better to bleed off a certain > amount from the caliper on the wheel you first work on, or would it be better > to open the bleeder valve just before pushing the piston back on each > individual caliper? > Another issue I have is that of opening the cap on the MC. Does this allow > moisture (say, on a humid day) to enter the MC? > Also, I worry about fluid going backward in the system - it just seems wrong > somehow. > And what about cars with ABS? What happens to fluid going "backwards" on > those cars? > Whadda you guys do? > > Jerry > 82 240D > 91 Volvo 240 > and others > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7323 (20120723) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL crack head
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3159964601.html nice, but not that nice. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I fraxxed it
Small troubles with Frosch. She was getting a bit hot under the bonnet and before the needle pegged out in the red for too long I got her back home. It was just a short jaunt around the block anyway. Popped the hood and upper hose was blazing hot and stiff as could be. Lower hose was far less warm and soft as mush. Undid the cap on the overfow to let pressure out and that allowed upper hose to flex more. Seems to indicate failure of the thermostat. Looked around for a local supplier, since I want to get her back on the road. Turns out Behr is special order and takes days, so found lesser brand that would be available in three hours. In the meanwhile, I undid the battery, loosen the bolts and moved the alternator out of the way. Rusted up bolts holding the thermostat housing came out with some persuasion, but trying to get the dang thing to let loose was another story. No matter how much subtle persuasion I exerted, it would not come undone. Used a bit more persuasion with a large rubber mallet, then moved to small BFH. Wouldn't you know, piece of 4x wood I had under the hood awaiting use as persuasion tool slips with all my thumping and slides the dang wire to contact the positive side, making a circuit and the already baked to death wires from there to the alternator catch fire. Sprayed the bejessus out of it with ABC tank and decided to stop while I was behind. Sent the car into the garage for its own safety. Indy will make it all good. I pay the piper for being a dimwit cheapskate SOB. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it
Yeah, going to get a fresh one. One I used was ancient. Also going to install a halon system under the bonnet. Room enough up front for a small canister. Pipe nozzles along fenders clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Aug 1, 2012 11:32 AM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: >> > >> Don't be so hard on yourself. Some >> things are just bad luck. > > And think how much worse it could have been if Clay hadn't had a fire > extinguisher handy! > > Alex > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it
Not in hand. Will have to search eBay or something for it clay On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > clay wrote: >> Also going to install a halon system under the bonnet. > > I have been told halon is outlaw? > Tell us where you find small halon. > I used to have small halon, sold by outfit from Portland/Seattle years ago. > Thanks. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it
And the news from the shop is that no great damage was done to the engine or car, other than needing to call the Fatherland for a new wiring harness. No word on how long I am going to be storing the car there. clay On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:07 PM, clay monroe wrote: > Yeah, going to get a fresh one. One I used was ancient. Also going to > install a halon system under the bonnet. Room enough up front for a small > canister. Pipe nozzles along fenders > > > clay > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > >> On Aug 1, 2012 11:32 AM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: >>> >> >>> Don't be so hard on yourself. Some >>> things are just bad luck. >> >> And think how much worse it could have been if Clay hadn't had a fire >> extinguisher handy! >> >> Alex >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it
Car is not going to be seeing any of these for a month or more. Once the damage is gone, I will have it back and be able to see which fits my needs best. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecId=3431 http://www.kiddefiresystems.com/utcfs/Templates/Pages/Template-53/0,8062,pageId%3D855%26siteId%3D383,00.html portables, could hook into a basic system- http://www.kiddefiresystems.com/utcfs/Templates/Pages/Template-50/0,8061,pageId=980&siteId=383,00.html http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?form_prod_id=735&action=product&form_cat_id=0 https://safecraft.com/MinstalledExtinguisher.php http://www.firefightproducts.com/Fire_Fight_Supplemental_Hal.html http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Compartment-Halon-Fire-Extinguisher-Dispenser-/360235031471?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53dfae5baf#ht_503wt_1398 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAFECRAFT-10-LB-HALON-1211-FIRE-BOTTLE-IN-THE-GREEN-NASCAR-ARCA-IMCA-SCCA-/120906241162?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item1c2692d48a&vxp=mtr#ht_2791wt_1398 On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > clay wrote: >> Not in hand. Will have to search eBay or something for it > > Please let us know what you end up with. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good
TEX does have a much longer half life than leather. The cow hide cracks and discolors. Needs far too much kind loving to keep it nice. Getting the skins in Frosch back into shape has been a months long trial. The skins in the e300d are old and cracking. Annual care has not been able to reverse, but only marginally slow the damage. And with the swap in of a passenger seat with more damage, I have my work cut out for me. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 4, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: > It's a Mercedes, one of the finest luxury cars available, so it must be > LEATHER. Having had both, I prefer Tex in these old Mercedes. > > Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it
No charge. I am a good customer, there are a few idiot users who took off to see the olympics, leaving the cars there for cheap storage. On Aug 5, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Craig wrote: > On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:00:48 -0700 clay monroe > wrote: > >> And the news from the shop is that no great damage was done to the >> engine or car, other than needing to call the Fatherland for a new >> wiring harness. No word on how long I am going to be storing the car >> there. > > Hopefully, they won't charge you a storage charge. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 107 & 116 console
how alike are the center consoles in the 116 and 107? The one in Frosch has been buggered up by some lame car stereo installer who cut out the upper to get his crap radio in, and the a/c panel was strong armed out, breaking the bolt down positions. Do the center consoles in the sedan differ that greatly that I could use it to patch the 107? clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good
I have a set of 114/115 pretty bumpers. Much better at taking down pedestrians and look good doing it clay On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > On 04/08/2012 4:05 PM, Craig wrote: >> On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:10:23 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" >> wrote: >> >>> I'm highly tempted to buy this >>> >>> http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/3183404711.html >> Why? Isn't the price an order of magnitude off for you? >> >> It's a 115, with the corresponding black-oil-down-your-arm oil filter, an >> automatic transmission, and the ugly bumpers. >> >> >> Craig >> >> > Hey, those "ugly" bumpers offer much better protection than the old "pretty" > bumpers and the new plastic no bumper look. > > I am truly sad that the auto makers were permitted to forget about the 5 mph > bumper. > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fraxxed it
She is safe as can be. On the rack, inside, under lock and watchful eye all day long. She would not be safe at home. Damn neighbor chinese will call the cops if the car does not move within three days. They have come by asking me when I work on it if it runs. Of course it runs, you idiots, I drive it. If she sits on the road, the car is not safe from them On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > On 05/08/2012 10:00 PM, clay monroe wrote: >> And the news from the shop is that no great damage was done to the engine or >> car, other than needing to call the Fatherland for a new wiring harness. No >> word on how long I am going to be storing the car there. >> >> clay >> >> > Might be better to have the car towed home and store it yourself. > > Both in terms of cost if they charge you for storage, and for the safety of > the car depending on their "compound" and how careful they are or are not > around other people's cars. > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 parts?
Yes. I was stockpiling this stuff up for the swap meet that went belly up. Get me a list and I will see how large of a box I can stuff full. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > Anyone out there got any 115 parts kicking about? > I need the headlight surround "door" or whatever one wants to call it for my > 76 300D. > > I finally installed the new headlights I bought a year or more back and in > the process, discovered that the right side is in rougher shape than I > thought it was. The clear colored plastic stuff that surrounds the actual > headlight is falling apart. > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good
I used sheepskins in Gump. Tex had see better days and was black. On the rare sunny day, those seats would scorch your flesh. Cold days were made better with skins. On Frosch, the skins she had were allowing the leather to over age and I have not put them on again. Trying to get the leather to be supple again. Spring cleaning and stripping off skins would let you care for the leather at least once a year. clay On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: >> >> >> I'm thinking of going with sheepskins in front just to cover it up. >> >> Allan >> >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1979 300SD > > that is an excellent solution. I got mine from Rusty. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good
clean. pulled off gump On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > Hey if you had a clean set of 5 mph bumbers I might be interested. My front > bumper is fine but the back one is a bit dimpled as some previous owner must > have clamped a bicycle rack on it. > > I guess maybe I am just used to the way it looks but I don't mind the 5mph > bumbers on my car. > > > Randy > > > On 07/08/2012 4:22 PM, clay monroe wrote: >> I have a set of 114/115 pretty bumpers. Much better at taking down >> pedestrians and look good doing it >> >> clay >> >> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: >> >>> On 04/08/2012 4:05 PM, Craig wrote: >>>> On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:10:23 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm highly tempted to buy this >>>>> >>>>> http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/3183404711.html >>>> Why? Isn't the price an order of magnitude off for you? >>>> >>>> It's a 115, with the corresponding black-oil-down-your-arm oil filter, an >>>> automatic transmission, and the ugly bumpers. >>>> >>>> >>>> Craig >>>> >>>> >>> Hey, those "ugly" bumpers offer much better protection than the old >>> "pretty" bumpers and the new plastic no bumper look. >>> >>> I am truly sad that the auto makers were permitted to forget about the 5 >>> mph bumper. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 & 116 console
what about the dash area? All I need is the panel part to hold the radio, acc, and ash tray On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: > Not even close. > > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of clay monroe > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:05 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] 107 & 116 console > > how alike are the center consoles in the 116 and 107? > > The one in Frosch has been buggered up by some lame car stereo installer who > cut out the upper to get his crap radio in, and the a/c panel was strong > armed out, breaking the bolt down positions. > > Do the center consoles in the sedan differ that greatly that I could use it > to patch the 107? > > > clay > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 parts?
All the spare parts that I gathered for Gump over 8 years. I have tail light assemblies, head light door, bumpers, switches, relays, doors, trunk covers, wiper motor, door stop straps, window regulators, cranks, handles.. Some headlights and tail for 123, 116, 201, 107 On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > Ok, you lost me. > What do you have? > > Randy > > On 07/08/2012 4:42 PM, clay monroe wrote: >> Yes. I was stockpiling this stuff up for the swap meet that went belly up. >> Get me a list and I will see how large of a box I can stuff full. >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: >> >>> Anyone out there got any 115 parts kicking about? >>> I need the headlight surround "door" or whatever one wants to call it for >>> my 76 300D. >>> >>> I finally installed the new headlights I bought a year or more back and in >>> the process, discovered that the right side is in rougher shape than I >>> thought it was. The clear colored plastic stuff that surrounds the actual >>> headlight is falling apart. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Mercedes 240D - Classic Car Runs Good
I do have a set that fits the w107 seats. They are old and have been washed to try to get soaked in sweat to go away. Not full wool, they are sporty, cut out/shaved sections. Very kalifornia. Just the seat part, no headrest wools. Will need fresh under strapping to hold them in place for your seats. On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > So do you have a set of sheepskins in your inventory now? Can't quite > tell from how you wrote this whether you do or don't. I might be > interested if so, if they would fit a W116 seat. > > clay monroe writes: > >> I used sheepskins in Gump. Tex had see better days and was black. On >> the rare sunny day, those seats would scorch your flesh. Cold days >> were made better with skins. On Frosch, the skins she had were >> allowing the leather to over age and I have not put them on >> again. Trying to get the leather to be supple again. Spring cleaning >> and stripping off skins would let you care for the leather at least >> once a year. >> > > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The dead have risen!!!!!
My Indy is GOD Frosch suffered a massive death due to idiot owner who made the wire harness go up in smoke. Indy got the car last week and had to order the harness from the Fatherland. Black Forest Elves grabbed Rumplestiltskin and have him weave the thing for Mercedes. I got a call late this afternoon that he needs the lift for other work. He pushed through today and got her back running well. Sort of fried more than we had thought. I had the alternator from Gump that got rebuilt, so he installed that.It has not that same pin out location as what was destroyed in Frosch. We had to get a new battery as well. A few toasted wires not in the harness need attention. Temp gauge is pegged, so that wire needs attention. Cooked some of the vac lines, and I will need to chase that down. Tach used to be pegged out, but now does not register. Indy told me he had to quit chasing gremlins, or he would needlessly rack up a huge bill. As it was, idiot tax was only $1200. I am going to reduce my under hood wrenching to less destructive tasks. Hood pad, fluid and filters, spiffing up the engine bay. Real wrenching will get sent to the shop. Dang thermostat should have been a $100 task, including parts. I had the same poor performance wrenching with Gump, and ended up paying $1k's to remedy the stupidity I subjected her to.Clutch, water pump, brakes, starter and alternator, oil pump, valves. That darn Gump was dirt cheap to get, but rectifying the screw ups I subjected her to cost me thousands . I have a few days to wash and wax to get her ready for the local show and shine this weekend clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 & 116 console
Ok. Guess I go looking for a parts car that is no more expensive than a new console On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: > Nope, sorry. > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of clay monroe > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 6:29 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 & 116 console > > what about the dash area? All I need is the panel part to hold the radio, > acc, and ash tray > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: > >> Not even close. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >> On Behalf Of clay monroe >> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:05 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: [MBZ] 107 & 116 console >> >> how alike are the center consoles in the 116 and 107? >> >> The one in Frosch has been buggered up by some lame car stereo installer > who >> cut out the upper to get his crap radio in, and the a/c panel was strong >> armed out, breaking the bolt down positions. >> >> Do the center consoles in the sedan differ that greatly that I could use > it >> to patch the 107? >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dead have risen!!!!!
I undid the positive lead, instead of negative. Was using wood and BFH to persuade the thermostat housing to let go. Rested a 2x4 up toward the firewall and in making space, it moved and contacted the battery. Smoke and stuff ensued. Got her washed and vac out the chemicals from the cabin. That stuff gets EVERYWHERE. Lexol on the seats, 303 protectant on the canvas, Griot clay bar, so she is baby butt smooth. Spray on meguires wax for now and real carnuba treatment in the morning. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > On 07/08/2012 10:55 PM, clay monroe wrote: >> My Indy is GOD >> >> Frosch suffered a massive death due to idiot owner who made the wire harness >> go up in smoke. Indy got the car last week and had to order the harness >> from the Fatherland. Black Forest Elves grabbed Rumplestiltskin and have >> him weave the thing for Mercedes. >> >> I got a call late this afternoon that he needs the lift for other work. He >> pushed through today and got her back running well. Sort of fried more than >> we had thought. I had the alternator from Gump that got rebuilt, so he >> installed that.It has not that same pin out location as what was >> destroyed in Frosch. We had to get a new battery as well. A few toasted >> wires not in the harness need attention. Temp gauge is pegged, so that wire >> needs attention. Cooked some of the vac lines, and I will need to chase >> that down. Tach used to be pegged out, but now does not register. >> >> Indy told me he had to quit chasing gremlins, or he would needlessly rack up >> a huge bill. As it was, idiot tax was only $1200. I am going to reduce my >> under hood wrenching to less destructive tasks. Hood pad, fluid and >> filters, spiffing up the engine bay. Real wrenching will get sent to the >> shop. Dang thermostat should have been a $100 task, including parts. I had >> the same poor performance wrenching with Gump, and ended up paying $1k's to >> remedy the stupidity I subjected her to.Clutch, water pump, brakes, >> starter and alternator, oil pump, valves. That darn Gump was dirt cheap to >> get, but rectifying the screw ups I subjected her to cost me thousands . >> >> I have a few days to wash and wax to get her ready for the local show and >> shine this weekend >> >> >> clay >> >> >> > > I have forgotten. How did you manage to inflict harm? > > I think you need to consider it a learning experience which you obviously > have, but I don't think you should give up on doing things yourself. > > Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 parts?
seattle UPS freight On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > > Remind me. Where are you? West coast? > > Randy > > On 07/08/2012 5:37 PM, clay monroe wrote: >> All the spare parts that I gathered for Gump over 8 years. I have tail >> light assemblies, head light door, bumpers, switches, relays, doors, trunk >> covers, wiper motor, door stop straps, window regulators, cranks, handles.. >> Some headlights and tail for 123, 116, 201, 107 >> >> >> On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: >> >>> Ok, you lost me. >>> What do you have? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> On 07/08/2012 4:42 PM, clay monroe wrote: >>>> Yes. I was stockpiling this stuff up for the swap meet that went belly >>>> up. Get me a list and I will see how large of a box I can stuff full. >>>> >>>> >>>> clay >>>> >>>> >>>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >>>> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyone out there got any 115 parts kicking about? >>>>> I need the headlight surround "door" or whatever one wants to call it for >>>>> my 76 300D. >>>>> >>>>> I finally installed the new headlights I bought a year or more back and >>>>> in the process, discovered that the right side is in rougher shape than I >>>>> thought it was. The clear colored plastic stuff that surrounds the actual >>>>> headlight is falling apart. >>>>> >>>>> Randy >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Indy is GOD!!!!
MBCA show and shine this sunday at Nile golf. http://www.mbcaseattle.org/ On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:16 AM, dbl...@comcast.net wrote: >> -- >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:55:30 -0700 >> From: clay monroe >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: [MBZ] The dead have risen! >> Message-ID: <2b3023a5-9a59-488c-962b-f663ebb4f...@comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> My Indy is GOD >> >> Frosch suffered a massive death due to idiot owner who made the wire >> harness go up in smoke. Indy got the car last week and had to order >> the harness from the Fatherland. Black Forest Elves grabbed >> Rumplestiltskin and have him weave the thing for Mercedes. >> >> I got a call late this afternoon that he needs the lift for other >> work. He pushed through today and got her back running well. Sort of >> fried more than we had thought. I had the alternator from Gump that >> got rebuilt, so he installed that. It has not that same pin out >> location as what was destroyed in Frosch. We had to get a new battery >> as well. A few toasted wires not in the harness need attention. Temp >> gauge is pegged, so that wire needs attention. Cooked some of the vac >> lines, and I will need to chase that down. Tach used to be pegged out, >> but now does not register. >> >> Indy told me he had to quit chasing gremlins, or he would needlessly >> rack up a huge bill. As it was, idiot tax was only $1200. I am going >> to reduce my under hood wrenching to less destructive tasks. Hood pad, >> fluid and filters, spiffing up the engine bay. Real wrenching will get >> sent to the shop. Dang thermostat should have been a $100 task, >> including parts. I had the same poor performance wrenching with Gump, >> and ended up paying $1k's to remedy the stupidity I subjected her to. >> Clutch, water pump, brakes, starter and alternator, oil pump, valves. >> That darn Gump was dirt cheap to get, but rectifying the screw ups I >> subjected her to cost me thousands . >> >> I have a few days to wash and wax to get her ready for the local show >> and shine this weekend >> >> >> clay > > > Where are you showing, I would like to come by and see her? > > David Liddell > Lynnwood Wa. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The dead have risen!!!!!
I am not stopping swinging a wrench. I am going to stop doing it unsupervised. I should have learned to pay better attention with Gump, but "knew" I could do a simple task. How hard could it be? Not screwing it up seems to be the hard part. At least with Gump I had MB shop manuals to follow. On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > Randy Bennell writes: > >> I think you need to consider it a learning experience which you >> obviously have, but I don't think you should give up on doing things >> yourself. > > Indeed, the only difference is with a professional mechanic they have > their "learning experiences" on other people's cars, not their own. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Clinical depression. was: occupying the deadly 3rdrow.
I just got back from taking two weeks to support my little sister, who had her husband of 22 years walk out. She moved the family from PNW to Missoula, MT so she could be a college professor. Hubby was in and out of jobs since the last election and had a hard time getting good jobs in the new town. Sister gave up her partnership in a great litigation firm to follow Her dream of teaching. Big drop in income, bratty kids, she got overly busy with her teaching and BiL got short end of the stick.Six months ago, some local woman set her eyes on him, and went in for the kill. While sister was not paying attention, he decided that life with kids and her was not a happy place. We all know it was a depressing place to live, but he did make a move to get himself a better life. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: > > >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012, at 08:55 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: >>> G: Some of the men who wear big boy pants are the most surprised of >>>anyone when they develop symptoms of depression. Using willpower >>>to cure oneself is very effective but the person has to learn how >>>to use willpower. That's why will-training groups such as those >>>listed on www.Recovery-Inc.com have been so effective for the past >>>75 years. Many veterans with PTSD have regained their mental >>>health after learning will training. >> >> I've heard a theory that depression is nature's way of telling us that >> something isn't working in our lives and we need to make a change. It's not >> a "disease" at least not initially. The problem in modern society is that >> many people feel, because of obligations, debts, social pressure, >> overprotective/controlling parents, etc. that they are unable to make a >> significant change in their personal lifestyle when they become unhappy with >> it, and so the depression deepens. Interesting way to look at it, I think >> it makes some sense. >> Of course, if you're at the point where you're seriously thinking of hurting >> yourself, you need more immediate, external help. You can get to a point >> where it's very difficult to "will" your way out of the depression on your >> own. >> Allan > > Agreed, and for most patients who can't avoid the pressures of society, the > only solution is changing their attitudes and reactions towards it. This is > the basis of the currently most popular method of treatment; cognitive > behavioural therapy: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy > > It's also the basis of many self-help groups since a professional is not > needed. > CBT therapists divide the patients world into two parts: 1: Inner environment > (their mind), and outer environment (everything outside their mind. The > patient gradually learns that they can seldom change "outer environment" but > they can change "inner environment" by the use of CBT techniques which they > learn. > Persistent thoughts of suicide are probably the key symptom which indicates > that a person should see a therapist. > Gerry > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 603 engine
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/3161971786.html not mine, no interest. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Finally! A realistic price
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/3190236294.html about time the thing went for sale for what it is really worth clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car show/try this one
I sourced a few parts on the blue w115. The euro lights were Gump's. It is good to see that at least part of her lives on. clay On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:39 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: > Works fine on Firefox. > > https://picasaweb.google.com/117530990844305295379/2012MBCASEATTLECARSHOW > > RLE > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car show #3
She came to me complete but with much deferred maintenance. Polish and wax, as well as upgrading the worn parts really helps make her pretty. I figure I have another month of worthwhile weather to make her pop before she gets garaged for the winter. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 28, 2012, at 5:09 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > relng...@aol.com wrote: >> I made a change to public so try again. >> https://picasaweb.google.com/117530990844305295379/2012MBCASEATTLECARSHOW > > Yes, opening it to public view helps. ;-) > > So #1 is your car, and #17 is Frosh? > I'd kind of expected Frosh to be a heap, but it looks quite nice. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You need this
If you go with the lights, you will have to install the bouncing/jumping low-rider hydraulics clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 28, 2012, at 9:52 AM, WILTON wrote: > Yep, I need to string these all along under the car, around wheel wells, > etc., on my 350SDL. Would that make me a "dude" or just another damned fool? > Oh, maybe I could start wearing my pants with the crotch way down between my > knees, too. ;<) > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] You need this > > >> That's nothing. They make multicolor LED strips with controllers that you >> can set up to respond to your stereo output. >> >> I was looking at them with my son (thank goodness he didn't want to put some >> in his car!) >> >> They are actually pretty cool, as it's easy to set up and cut the strips to >> length and just plug them into the controller. >> >> Dan >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car show #3
Thanks. Clay bar and Griots speed shine, as well as hours of ROB and wax. Roger makes a 10 footer look really nice. Next year's project is having Griot's walk me through their polish process to get the swirls and scratch marks out. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Frosh definitely looks nice. The Mercedes Martha Stewart would be proud. > > Based on some of your descriptions I would have thought much the same as > Mitch. > > I never liked that green color on the sedans, but it looks nice on your car. > That lower door cladding really pops with that color, for some reason. > > Dan > > > > On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:30 PM, clay monroe wrote: > >> She came to me complete but with much deferred maintenance. Polish and wax, >> as well as upgrading the worn parts really helps make her pretty. I figure >> I have another month of worthwhile weather to make her pop before she gets >> garaged for the winter. >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2012, at 5:09 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: >> >>> relng...@aol.com wrote: >>>> I made a change to public so try again. >>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/117530990844305295379/2012MBCASEATTLECARSHOW >>> >>> Yes, opening it to public view helps. ;-) >>> >>> So #1 is your car, and #17 is Frosh? >>> I'd kind of expected Frosh to be a heap, but it looks quite nice. >>> >>> Mitch. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What gauge wire to use?
The wires in Gump were stranded to the GPs front and back, but solid toaster bent copper between them. Front wire is four or five inches long clay On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Rich Thomas writes: > >> I'd say 8g, you can get single-cable short lengths at HD or Lowes, or >> any electrical supply shop will cut a bit for you. If you want >> bigger, the 3-wire stuff for connecting panels to boxes comes in >> larger sizes, you can get that at Lowes/HD too off spools in any >> length. > > I'd think due to the vibrations and movement in a car, you want stranded > wire, not solid like household wiring would use. > > Allan > > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Like Buttah
I have been away for a few weeks helping my sister deal with being left by the father of her children. Las time I drove Frosch was the Seattle Show and shine, then under the car cover she went. Pulled the car out from her cocoon and went to the Caffeine and Gasoline Griots host each first Saturday of the month. Early morning gathering of roughly like minded folks with cars in various conditions of spiffiness. Some are rare and pretty cool, others are rat rods or garage queens and some are just a varied iteration of the same model. Either way, it is a nice start to the weekend to get some java and a sweet treat then wander the parking area admiring cars. September was going to host Italian iron later in the morning, so a few red cars were there. Rolls Royce had new models from their stable on show. Ugly cars now. I enjoyed chatting with a few folks and seeing the cars while sipping italian coffee. Not the usual service of java, but the donuts were the same. Really like the Fiat Topolino much more than the red go fast cars. Drive down was uneventful. About 30 miles from my house to the headquarters. By 10am it had warmed up, but not enough to go top down. Time to leave the spaces for the incoming stallions, and such. Driving back home I was just amazed at how smooth and dreamy this car was on the highway at speed. I really like her. Not all rough and stumbly the way Gump was. I loved Gump, she was simple and practical, but not smooth. Frosch is like silk. Smooth heavy whipping cream drizzled on peaches freshly picked and cut in a bowl. Warm and soft as a baby's tummy waiting for a raspberry by grandpa. So, I skipped going right home and went to a Home Despot for garden supplies a few miles north so I could extend my peaceful wheel time. Yesterday I used the ROB and the new to me Griots carnuba wax on Frosch. I had done a good enough job with the FLAPS stuff earlier in August, but want to get her ready for winter storage with a stout coat of protection. I used the stick wax. Sort of like the rub on deoderant stick that you wipe onto the buffer pad in sparing amounts. It went on easily and buffed out to a great shine. I took advantage of the morning clouds so that it would be cooler and instructions said to not use on hot car or in full sun. Once finished, I washed SWMBA car. It was still encrusted with the carcasses of plethora of insects Montana has to offer this time of year. I went back inside to finish the sunday paper and make a light lunch. Changed out the laundry.Looked out the window and she was beckoning me to take her out. So I did. We hit the road and ended up at a small town ice cream shop for a fresh blueberry shake. Took the back roads all the way home. Three hours of just marveling at how comfortable and smooth, sensuous the feel of driving her was. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding injectors
Should be. Depends on pop pressure. I have a few sets, but the pop pressures are not the same. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 2, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Anyone? Are the W115 220D injector bodies interchangeable with the W123 240D? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > I went ahead and ordered the Mercedesource Monarch injector nozzles with > rebuild kit and tester. I was going to get rebuilds from Rusty but decided > that I was interested in learning about this whole rebuild process instead:) > One of the downfalls is that I will have to keep my car out of comission for > a while. I'm not particularly thrilled about this option as my 240D is my > daily driver. > I have a set of 220D injectors that may have been rebuilt twenty yrs ago and > never used. I don't trust them but was considering rebuilding them with the > Monarch injector nozzles for the 240D. My question is: > Are the injectors on the 220D the same as on the 240D? Are all the > parts-barring the nozzles identical? If so, I can rebuild those and not have > my car out of comission. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
That is a great price - compared to what I got Frosch for. Perfect starter SL, given that you have poured so much quality work into having it fully functional. clay On Sep 3, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I finally came to terms with just letting one go. > http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SL2sale.html > for the curious. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
But Dan, you can drive it back home with no troubles since Jim has made it work so well. Might have a very high fuel bill to get back to FL. Fly into Spokane and take I-90 to Sioux Fall, then drop down I-25 to I-40 and head home. clay On Sep 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Agreed. I would be seriously interested if this wasn't 3,000 miles away. > Darn. > > Dan > > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe wrote: > >> That is a great price - compared to what I got Frosch for. Perfect starter >> SL, given that you have poured so much quality work into having it fully >> functional. >> >> clay >> >> On Sep 3, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> >>> I finally came to terms with just letting one go. >>> http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SL2sale.html >>> for the curious. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethelred is now Ready
phoo! Takes all of five days if you take your time and lollygag. I did Orlando to Seattle in five days. Started at 2pm in FL and ended up in Seattle at noon five days later. Took time out to visit Asheville and see Biltmore one day after driving country roads through GA to get there. Did a few long hauls through Missouri, Kansas, Colorado and Wyoming. Car wanted to spend the day at the SLC MB dealer with a stuck EGR while it went for rides up and down the lift while the techs scratched their collective noggins for six hours. I figure you could take a weekend out and arrive Friday morning. Make it to Rapid City for dinner, then KC for dinner the next day. Sunday dinner could be Memphis BBQ, and home Monday evening. Heck, you cover gas and lodging and I just may do it for you. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 3, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Unfortunately I don't have the time for a cross-country trip, and I would be > reluctant to attempt one in a car of this vintage (no aspersions cast on > Jim's work, either - looks like he did a lot of nice things to the car, which > make it attractive for the price.) > > Dan > > > On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Craig wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:19:58 -0700 clay monroe >> wrote: >> >>> But Dan, you can drive it back home with no troubles since Jim has made >>> it work so well. Might have a very high fuel bill to get back to FL. >>> Fly into Spokane and take I-90 to Sioux Fall, then drop down I-25 to >>> I-40 and head home. >> >> And when you drop down I-25 to I-40 you will be in my neighborhood. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Like Buttah
Not tag team, I just got carried away with how easy an adventure it would be to haul it down south at this time of year. I forget that it is Hurricane season, so would have to skirt some clouds and rain. More thought would need to be put into the adventure. I do not fly, so would have to source a ride north if I deliver a car south. clay On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Very nice, glad to hear you're enjoying her. Are you and Jim playing tag > team to sell his car? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300 > '87 300TD > > clay monroe wrote: > >> I have been away for a few weeks helping my sister deal with being left >> by the father of her children. Las time I drove Frosch was the Seattle >> Show and shine, then under the car cover she went. >> >> Pulled the car out from her cocoon and went to the Caffeine and >> Gasoline Griots host each first Saturday of the month. Early morning >> gathering of roughly like minded folks with cars in various conditions >> of spiffiness. Some are rare and pretty cool, others are rat rods or >> garage queens and some are just a varied iteration of the same model. >> Either way, it is a nice start to the weekend to get some java and a >> sweet treat then wander the parking area admiring cars. September was >> going to host Italian iron later in the morning, so a few red cars were >> there. Rolls Royce had new models from their stable on show. Ugly >> cars now. >> >> I enjoyed chatting with a few folks and seeing the cars while sipping >> italian coffee. Not the usual service of java, but the donuts were the >> same. Really like the Fiat Topolino much more than the red go fast >> cars. >> >> Drive down was uneventful. About 30 miles from my house to the >> headquarters. By 10am it had warmed up, but not enough to go top down. >> Time to leave the spaces for the incoming stallions, and such. Driving >> back home I was just amazed at how smooth and dreamy this car was on >> the highway at speed. I really like her. Not all rough and stumbly >> the way Gump was. I loved Gump, she was simple and practical, but not >> smooth. Frosch is like silk. Smooth heavy whipping cream drizzled on >> peaches freshly picked and cut in a bowl. Warm and soft as a baby's >> tummy waiting for a raspberry by grandpa. >> >> So, I skipped going right home and went to a Home Despot for garden >> supplies a few miles north so I could extend my peaceful wheel time. >> >> Yesterday I used the ROB and the new to me Griots carnuba wax on >> Frosch. I had done a good enough job with the FLAPS stuff earlier in >> August, but want to get her ready for winter storage with a stout coat >> of protection. I used the stick wax. Sort of like the rub on >> deoderant stick that you wipe onto the buffer pad in sparing amounts. >> It went on easily and buffed out to a great shine. I took advantage of >> the morning clouds so that it would be cooler and instructions said to >> not use on hot car or in full sun. Once finished, I washed SWMBA car. >> It was still encrusted with the carcasses of plethora of insects >> Montana has to offer this time of year. >> >> I went back inside to finish the sunday paper and make a light lunch. >> Changed out the laundry.Looked out the window and she was beckoning >> me to take her out. So I did. We hit the road and ended up at a small >> town ice cream shop for a fresh blueberry shake. Took the back roads >> all the way home. Three hours of just marveling at how comfortable and >> smooth, sensuous the feel of driving her was. >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LED brake lights
I did that on Frosch. Got the inexpensive ones off eBay from china. They are a bunch less cash than retail. Factory seconds with a bit of excess solder or odd alignments. Better than $16 a bulb. Good lighting, but not a huge spread of photons. Best seen head on. You have to swap in a timed blinker relay, as the OEM is looking for lots of draw. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:16 AM, WILTON wrote: > 'Been wondering 'bout that, myself - LED's to just plug into regular socket, > that is. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:02 AM > Subject: [MBZ] LED brake lights > > >> http://lakesideelectronics.net/products-page/ >> >> --R >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LED brake lights
I did the swap to reduce the amperage on the ancient wires in the car. This way more electrons flow to the spark plugs instead of sucking them to make hot photons. I got the cheaper LED that just make light, not all fancy clay On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Scroll down and look at the price! > > For that I can buy a lifetime of incandescent brake lamps for every > car I have ever or will own. > > Dan > > On Sep 5, 2012, at 11:18 AM, WILTON wrote: > >> 'Been wondering 'bout that, myself - LED's to just plug into regular socket, >> that is. >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" >> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:02 AM >> Subject: [MBZ] LED brake lights >> >> >>> http://lakesideelectronics.net/products-page/ >>> >>> --R >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LED brake lights
Those are available. Cost $15 each and have the resistors inside. No real drop in electrons clay On Sep 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, WILTON wrote: > I don't WANT LED's; just wondered how long it'd be before somebody made units > to just plug into regular sockets - an engineering exercise. 'Would use less > fuel, but I'm not gonna try to measure it, and 'sure hope I get get "poor" > enough to be concerned about the difference. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" > To: "Diesel List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] LED brake lights > > >> Ehh >> >> If I were going to LEDs it'd be for the longer lifespan and I'd just to >> plain old. Brighter would be an advantage but flashing I'm not so sure about. >> >> I do like LED bulbs in the dash of a 123, much brighter without the plastic >> melting heat of some of the other options. >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:16:43 -0400 >> From: "WILTON" >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] LED brake lights >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=response >> >> 'Been wondering 'bout that, myself - LED's to just plug into regular socket, >> that is. >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" >> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:02 AM >> Subject: [MBZ] LED brake lights >> >> >>> http://lakesideelectronics.net/products-page/ >>> >>> --R >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bring a trailer, Kaleb
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3259674549.html not mine, no affiliation, no interest Too bad Casey is not on the list anymore. Good frog car for him clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bring a trailer, Kaleb
engine rebuilds, but the rest of the car is good parts clay On Sep 9, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > Sounds like a bunch of cars that have been ruined by fryer oil. > > clay monroe writes: > >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3259674549.html >> >> not mine, no affiliation, no interest >> >> Too bad Casey is not on the list anymore. Good frog car for him > > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
looks like the engine wants a rebuild. Compression is all over the place. My understanding is that you want them within 50psi top to least. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: > #1- 390 psi > #2- 440 psi > #3- 360 psi > #4- 460 psi > > I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt that outright > stalling would be due to a compression issue. Any thoughts? > Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and stalling? > If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I see air bubbles in the > clear fuel lines? A cursory check hasn't revealed that. > Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I > pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling > and stalling? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > So I mispoke- it was the number three plug but that doesn't matter. The tip > of the plug looked fine. The engine is now stone cold. I understand a > compression test should be done on a warm engine. Should it really make a > significant difference? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Jim Cathey wrote: > Also the center of the number two gp seems to be wobbly and loose > within the gp body. Do I need to replace this plug? > Absolutely. > > I bet I know why the car runs rough. > We'll know for sure after he gets the #2 plug out. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
New GP, cleaned up injectors, M1 and diesel purge to work on the carbon then run it like it was stolen if it begins running better clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I'm gonna guess that #3 glowplug hasn't worked in some time and that cylinder > is now all carboned up. > > I'd further guess that if you replace all the GPs, switch to Mobil 1 if you > aren't already using it and blast on a 3 hour 80MPH drive (grab 95 and head > north) your problem will get better. > > Oh and replace that primer pump, anywhere fuel can get out air can get in... > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dimitri Seretakis > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test > Message-ID: ><1347373204.9028.yext-apple-iph...@web125102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I performed the compression test (cold engine). Results as follows: > #1- 390 psi > #2- 440 psi > #3- 360 psi > #4- 460 psi > > I'm a bit concerned about #3. That being said, I tend to doubt that outright > stalling would be due to a compression issue. Any thoughts? > Could my tank strainer cause the stumbling and stalling? > If it's an air leak how could I trace it- would I see air bubbles in the > clear fuel lines? A cursory check hasn't revealed that. > Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid when I > pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in stumbling > and stalling? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing glow plugs for compression test
In neither Gump nor the 95 E300D have leaking delivery valves had an effect on starting. The primer pump did issue with getting fuel to the IP in Gump. The leakage was really obvious though, so there was no real mystery about there being a leak. clay On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:14 PM, OK Don wrote: > In my experience, air leaks cause hard starting, but no effects at all once > running. > > On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >> Would I see air bubbles anywhere? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Craig > >> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis >> > wrote: >> >> Could the pump plunger thing- can't remember it's name spills fluid >> when I pump it. Could this be creating an air leak that would result in >> stumbling and stalling? >> >> The hand pump could indeed be creating an air leak. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 2012 Passat TDI DSG > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices?
Our prices are headed that way. last fueling was 4.28/gal. California and WA distillers have had technical issues which reduced supply. Tropical storms will reduce raw oil flow into the south. Alaska is switching over to shale from the easy to get crude which has been headed to asia anyway. On Sep 13, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > What is happening where you are? > We got a $0.05 per liter jump this morning. > That is the first change since about May of this year. > That makes it about $4.80 per US Gallon or $5.72 per Imp Gallon. > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad axle or differential
Could be the flex disks. Those will make a horrid noise on failure and still allow you to drive. No idea how that would impact ABS or ASD, other than destroying brake lines clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Diving home from airport tonight my '95 E300 broke down. Either an axle > shaft or the differential. > > While going up and over a large bridge, Wando river bridge on 526, it felt > like the brakes were applied and the car slowed momentarily, and then a > bang/thump from the rear of the car. After that noise from the rear axle. > > I drove on to my exit, then pulled over to have a look. Nothing looks amiss, > but terrible noise just creeping forward. ABS and ASD lights have both come > on. > > I'm waiting for a tow now. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300 > '87 300TD > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad axle or differential
hard to fathom what sort of catastrophic failure it would be that did not involve the drive shaft or diff clay On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > I had a flex disc go bad in a BMW, that was accompanied by lots of vibration. > Didn't get any vibration tonight. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300 > '87 300TD > > clay monroe wrote: > >> Could be the flex disks. Those will make a horrid noise on failure and >> still allow you to drive. No idea how that would impact ABS or ASD, >> other than destroying brake lines >> >> >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Max Dillon wrote: >> >>> Diving home from airport tonight my '95 E300 broke down. Either an >> axle shaft or the differential. >>> >>> While going up and over a large bridge, Wando river bridge on 526, it >> felt like the brakes were applied and the car slowed momentarily, and >> then a bang/thump from the rear of the car. After that noise from the >> rear axle. >>> >>> I drove on to my exit, then pulled over to have a look. Nothing >> looks amiss, but terrible noise just creeping forward. ABS and ASD >> lights have both come on. >>> >>> I'm waiting for a tow now. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300 >>> '87 300TD >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad axle or differential
That would be a PnP part I suspect. You could pay retail, but for about $100, one can yank it instead clay On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Car-part.com doesn't list any. > > Anyone else recommend a source? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300 > '87 300TD > > Max Dillon wrote: > >> Diagnoses is fried differential. One hour after I pulled off the road, >> it was still too hot to touch for more than a few seconds. >> >> Opened the fill plug, could not feel any oil. Put in about a quart of >> gear lube, enough so that it started to run out the fill hole. Ten >> minute test drive, and it's leaking all over. Groaning and grinding >> the whole drive. >> >> Time for a new (used) diff! >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300 >> '87 300TD >> >> Max Dillon wrote: >> >>> Car safely deposited in driveway, now I need to diagnose, so I can >>> order parts tomorrow. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300 >>> '87 300TD >>> >>> clay monroe wrote: >>> >>>> hard to fathom what sort of catastrophic failure it would be that did >>>> not involve the drive shaft or diff >>>> >>>> clay >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Max Dillon wrote: >>>> >>>>> I had a flex disc go bad in a BMW, that was accompanied by lots of >>>> vibration. Didn't get any vibration tonight. >>>>> -- >>>>> Max Dillon >>>>> Charleston SC >>>>> '95 E300 >>>>> '87 300TD >>>>> >>>>> clay monroe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Could be the flex disks. Those will make a horrid noise on >> failure >>>> and >>>>>> still allow you to drive. No idea how that would impact ABS or >>> ASD, >>>>>> other than destroying brake lines >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> clay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >>>>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >>>>>> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >>>>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Max Dillon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Diving home from airport tonight my '95 E300 broke down. Either >>> an >>>>>> axle shaft or the differential. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While going up and over a large bridge, Wando river bridge on >> 526, >>>> it >>>>>> felt like the brakes were applied and the car slowed momentarily, >>>> and >>>>>> then a bang/thump from the rear of the car. After that noise from >>>> the >>>>>> rear axle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I drove on to my exit, then pulled over to have a look. Nothing >>>>>> looks amiss, but terrible noise just creeping forward. ABS and >> ASD >>>>>> lights have both come on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm waiting for a tow now. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Max Dillon >>>>>>> Charleston SC >>>>>>> '95 E300 >>>>>>> '87 300TD >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >&
[MBZ] Anybody need 6.9?
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3278787138.html not mine, no affiiliation clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] too late for Gump
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3278462294.html wish these had been on CL last year. Gump would be back on the road clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Jim Cathey project
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3266735041.html Jim could use a few microwave bodies and get Jill a cute drop top clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jim Cathey project
But how are you going to find a use for all your microwave sheet metal? On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3266735041.html > > She _has_ a cute drop top: the 560SL. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Go Seahawks!!!!
http://www.lastpicstanding.com/index/index/refresh/refresh/ clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 Mercedes Benz. 380sl Roadster - $3500 (Dunes West)
>From my recent purchase, the holes like to start in the trunk and footwells. >POR-15 and fiberglass dealt with that. Heater box and air intake can tend to oxidize, or hold water to make rust happen. The underside of the hood and the attachments to the body will pool water and begin to rust. Frosch has been gifted with new sheetmetal due to PO poor driving, so I can not state that fenders and such are not rust prone areas clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > So, where are the common rust spots? Should have the conversion to double > row timing chain, can that be determined looking through the oil fill? > > Mama likes the picture, I may go take a look this afternoon. > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300 > '87 300TD > > Rich Thomas wrote: > >> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3233090001.html >> >> Max needs to go look at this one for Mama >> >> --R >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Go Seahawks!!!!
Dang. Pic was of the replacement NFL officials in conference, text to the effect- player failed to touch second base, touchdown Celtics On Sep 25, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > clay monroe wrote: >> http://www.lastpicstanding.com/index/index/refresh/refresh/ > > Somebody changed the pic a half hour ago. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was Flat wheels NOW oil!
I just made it to 1k on the most recent oil change in Frosch. Almost down a liter and the hot pressure is still really low. Not all the way to zero, as it was with the first oil I changed after 400 miles, but it does go a little below 1 bar at hot idle. I do not need to change the oil as it is still really clean, so thought I should try motor honey. Seems to be working. Have not taken her out for a really good long drive, but pressure is holding warm idle at almost 2 bar. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 26, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > If you're not having oil analysis done you don't know that its "dirty" you > know that its "darkened" which isn't the same thing. > > I'd consider it consuming more toward the end of the cycle a good reason for > a change but I'd suggest going with a better oil and changing less often. How > much do you like hanging out under the truck after all? Or alternately > hanging out at the quickie lube place. Your suggested oil change interval > from Ford is probably 5,000 or more miles... > > My '84 190D has probably 13,000 miles on the oil right now, I pulled a sample > at 12,000 and Larry says its okay, no abnormal wear metals or anything, > viscosity is still in the 40 range, I forget the soot load but less than 2% > anyway so I'm figuring to run it up to 15,000 or when the weather really > turns cold. That'll save me having to change it in the snow. > > -Curt > > I change the oil in my truck about every 5 to 6K kilometers - so about 3 > to 4K miles. > It gets somewhat dirty near the end and I seem to use some oil which > does not seem to happen early on after a change. > I may just not be watching close enough so maybe it uses a wee bit > throughout but is only noticable once it is down a liter. > The truck is a basic 02 F150 Supercrew with the 5.4 engine and about > 165K miles on it. > > Randy > > > On 25/09/2012 4:00 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> A guy I work with was using M1 and changing at 2500 miles. He said it was >> "cheap insurance". I asked him if I could have his used oil, he changes at >> the factory interval now which IIRC is 7500 miles for his Chevy pickup. >> Which reminds me I should ask again for the oil, it'd do fine in my >> lawnmower... >> >> -Curt > > _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was Flat wheels NOW oil!
I drove the car to Tacoma yesterday for the Griots All euro car gathering. After getting up to speed on the freeway I noticed the car was running pretty hot, but the outside temp was less than 60f. Poop! Must be the darn honey stuff. Kept an eye on it for 30 miles then RR tire picked up something bad and two miles later I had a flat. Open the boot and found the tool kit was missing. Evil thief! So I had to call AAA and wait 75 minutes for the guy to show with a 17mm socket. I drove home and decided to remove the steel wheels and give a refurb. in prep for gaining new tires. Light sanding and fresh rattle can black primer and semi-gloss. Got the driver side wheels off. Dropped the car so I could turn it around and get the front wheel off. Thing will not start now. New battery, fresh spark plug and wires, just filled the tank with fuel. Starter spins up great. Does not catch. No fuel situation or no electrons? I will read up in the Haynes manual as well as MB CD manual for ideas. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> go a little below 1 bar at hot idle. > > IIRC our 450SL had about 1/2+ bar (indicated) when hot. > It never was any problem, and we drove it for years. > I believe it was in spec. Cold idle was 3+ bar. > At any RPM it was always 3+ bar. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D drivetrain shake
flex disk On Sep 28, 2012, at 6:48 AM, John Ingram wrote: >My 83 240D 4-speed is now approaching 300K miles. It has developed a > drive-train shake or wobble that only happens between 20 and 23 mph while > accelerating in second gear. It hasn't gotten worse over the last 2000 miles > but I'd like to fix it since is in not normal. > Please let me know if you have any ideas. > Thank you, > John Ingram > > 83 240D 299,976 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PNW parts yard
NW AUTO RECYCLERS PARTS YARD mich...@nwautorecyclers.com 425-905-2344 2317 N MACHIAS RD. LAKE STEVENS WA for any of the locals, this is a much better PnP than the Schnitzer yards. Loaded with tri-stars this month. W124 mostly clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
I have a mid 80's becker radio clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html > So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I > need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not exactly > sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list > will grow. > Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. > Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new key > using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, can't > lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the > best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the old > ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old > ignition...any ideas? > Bob R > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting Back Into the Klatta Klatta Fold
make an offer. I need it gone, but cash is good too. clay On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > sweet. Let me ask the PO if he happens to have the correct one. If he > doesn't, I'll probably want that. What do you need for it? Vie viel? > > Bob R > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, clay monroe wrote: > >> I have a mid 80's becker radio >> >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: >> >>> It's time. Going buy that 1980 240D beater. >>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/3296637189.html >>> So, I will be asking youz guyz what kind of stuff you got laying around I >>> need. Like a shifter boot, and a drivers door interior handle (not >> exactly >>> sure how that is broken yet), correct radio, first aid kit, etc. The list >>> will grow. >>> Reckon I'll be renewing my acquaintance with the boneyard guy. >>> Also, this PO clown lost the key but didn't replace it by getting a new >> key >>> using the VIN he just got a new ignition and a new key. As a result, >> can't >>> lock the doors or, more importantly, get into the trunk. What is the >>> best/cheapest way to rectify that? I guess I will ask him if he has the >> old >>> ignition and I could get the correct key and reinstall the old >>> ignition...any ideas? >>> Bob R >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PNW parts yard
Ferril is now self serve? Dang! better head out there while the rains are holding off clay On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 PM, dbl...@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks for the heads-up, I've been meaning to check them out since I heard > that they are owned by the Ferril family who made the Everett and Lynnwood > yards self service. > > Dave > > '77 240d > '84 Volvo 245 Turbo -Not for long, #1 daugher totaled it two weeks go > '89 Chev 3/4T conversion van > '98 Volvo S70 GLT > > >> -- >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:43:40 -0700 >> From: clay monroe >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: [MBZ] PNW parts yard >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> NW AUTO RECYCLERS PARTS YARD >> mich...@nwautorecyclers.com >> 425-905-2344 >> 2317 N MACHIAS RD. LAKE STEVENS WA >> >> for any of the locals, this is a much better PnP than the Schnitzer >> yards. Loaded with tri-stars this month. W124 mostly >> >> >> clay >> >> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil supersyn
I too am interested in that answer. I picked up a case of M1 20-50 today since it is on sale at $5.50qt. There was this advance stuff, but the check boxes on the shelf data card seemed to indicate it was less gooder than the true M1. clay On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:35 PM, WILTON wrote: > 'Been coupla days without an oil thread, so here goes - what's Mobil 1 Super > synthetic? Friend saw it on sale at Advance and called me with question. > > BTW, I've been getting M1 5 W 40 turbo Diesel truck oil at Wally's for last > coupla years. > > Wilton > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drugs?
I think I just wet myself On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/car/215974670.html I'm not sure, I've never seen one of these before. -Curt - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] crack
I have yet to see 80MPG in Gump in town at 20mph. Dude is on severe crack Speaking of which, I watched a guy at the Goodwill outlet trying to make a P 150 laptop go. He was plugging all sorts of cables and cords in places, stuffing floppy and CD in it, shaking it, sniffing it, gathering wires and simms, old PII cards around it. Sad thing to see a mind that far gone On Oct 5, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-220D-1971- Mercedes-200-Diesel-Super-Rare-Perfect- Condition_W0QQitemZ180035751699QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] OR--leopard borked me
Upgraded sawtooth G4 with 1gig ram, dual 120gig drives, 1.4ghz cpu, 10.4.11 updating to leopard. Went fine until it rebooted and then the computer just shuts down. Needed 12 gig for install. Install disk had 25 gig available.Using logged startup, so I see sort of what happens, but before I can read the error, it just shuts down. Maybe 25 lines or so. Any ideas? Lack of disk space? Borked the logic board? HELP clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
I am not picking or choosing who goes or stays. There are too many folks around and sooner or later there will be a rebalancing. I suspect it will be really messy and will take a very long time to crawl back out of. Sad to see all the accumulated knowledge going missing again, as it did when Rome fell and Alexandria was sacked for the last time. clay On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Tyler Backman wrote: > Clay, > > You have an unstated premise in your arguments: That the purpose of > human life is to contribute to economic prosperity, and the value of > each persons life is proportional to their relative contribution. This > is an inherently flawed way of looking at it, because economic systems > are tools developed by people to improve their lives, not the other > way around. An economic system has no value unless it's providing a > benefit to humans, but humans still can have intrinsic value without > providing a benefit to economic systems. This type of thinking is what > leads to justification of gross injustice (see the Summers memo at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summers_Memo) > . > > Nevertheless, it's clear that our planet is far above it's sustainable > carrying capacity, at least with the levels of resource consumption > people currently have (see http://jclahr.com/bartlett/). That still > doesn't give you a right to play god by using your own value system to > decide who lives or dies. I highly suggest reading the writings of > Professor Albert A. Bartlett (see previous url) for some insight into > the causes and solutions to the overpopulation problem that don't > involve you becoming king of the world and executing people based on > their relative economic contributions. > > Also, these people that you say aren't "keep[ing] the economy chugging > along" and should be "let go" are also likely consuming much less > resources, and contributing less to both global warming and over- > consumption of resources than those who are. By your own logic (which > I want to be clear that I disagree with) you are choosing the wrong > group of people to "let go." There is a single proven sustainable way > to live on our planet: the way that indigenous peoples have been > living around the world for thousands of years. I am guessing that the > people that you say are "smart, well fed, well resourced people" are > living the least like the indigenous peoples, and are contributing the > most to the problem. > > If I've misunderstood what you're saying please let me know, but it > comes across as self-contradictory the way I'm reading it. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Redghost wrote: > >> come on Luther! There are 6.x BILLION humans around. How many of >> the 300 million Americans are actually holding down a job that serves >> to make the nation better or even keeps the economy chugging along? >> I am thinking there are a few million folks on the mainland that >> could be let go and we would not even feel a hiccough in the national >> fabric. Could have a huge rebound effect on the amount of funds >> needed to support them that is now available for roads, schools, >> infrastructure upgrades or defense. Could pay teachers and nurses a >> decent wage for the work they do to strengthen our kids and health >> care. Just think, SMART and HEALTHY citizens! >> >> What of the drain all the underproductive people worldwide are >> having? Can these african nations truly support millions of starving >> people? Can the Amazon support all the folks going in to clear, >> burn, and leave sterile after a few years? Can the world support >> that kind of abuse and not have a very bad reaction down the road? >> All this whining about global climate change is not going to quiet >> down until there are fewer humans suckling at the drying out teat. >> >> When business and such goes bad in your town, most folks just pick up >> and move on to where there are resources to support them. Where is >> that place now? Not China. Not India, Not Africa. Not even Latin >> America. You plan on heading north to Canada when the heat gets >> unbearable? I am sure a couple hundred million other citizens are >> looking at that too. Sadly the land there will not support such an >> influx of refugees. This planet does not even support the current >> population and we continue to spew more people out. >> >> The rich will continue to prosper and the poor will breed themselves >> into horrors we have not seen on a global scale. Soon enough there >> will not be enough smart, well fed, well resourced people left to >> keep the global economy in motion. Then there will be a massive >> collapse and what you feel is moral will be about as important as the >> dust in a holed bucket. >> >> I really like the way my life is going and do not wish any of the >> horrors I have seen afflict my fellow man. I am realistic enough to >> acknowledge that what I want is really insignificant in the grand >> scope
