Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-27 Thread Redghost
I have the DOS card for a Mac, still in the box with the 486sx  
processor.  Anybody need that?

clay

On Jun 16, 2007, at 7:21 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

> Years ago I had a PowerMac (this was the 603 PowerPC processor,
> pre-dating the G3 even).  I had some software called Virtual PC that
> let me run DOS and Windows (Win95 at the time) programs.  It really
> worked well.  I could use the inkjet printer on my Mac to print from
> Windows programs, even cut/paste between Windows and Mac apps.
>
> Both Parallels and BootCamp require an Intel-based Mac.  If you end up
> with a PowerPC mac, you'll need Virtual PC (now a Microsoft product).
>
> Allan
>
> Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> In theory, you still have to buy windows.  I have a volume license,
>> as a Microsoft Partner, so for me it is free.  If you have a copy of
>> windows from another machine you won't be using, you can install it
>> on the Mac using Bootcamp.  Parallels is an option.  It was not
>> available last year when we bought the Macbook.  Boot Camp was, and
>> it is free.  SO, there was no net cost from making the Macbook dual
>> boot.  I have heard that windows is somewhat slower in parallels than
>> in Dual boot.  The Macbook boots pretty fast, so it has not been a
>> major pain to reboot in the desired OS.
>>
>> Loren
>>
>> At 12:44 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>>> It seems than at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:31:11 -0500, Loren wrote:
>>>
 For my $$$, the Macbook with Boot camp and windows is ideal.  For
 surfing and itunes and I-anything use the mac.  When you need
 Windoze, boot it into Windoze and go.
>>>
>>> BootCamp lets you install a copy of MSWindows, right? But you
>>> still have to purchase a copy of the version of MSWindows that
>>> you want to use.
>>>
>>> What about Parallels? Still have to buy two operating systems,
>>> but now MSWindows is running as a process in Mac OS.
>>>
>>> --  Philip
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-18 Thread Trampas
I personally purchased a T21P for myself last year and I love it. I have had
Dells, HP, and Compaqs before and I will never go back. I just installed FC6
on it a few months back and then last week needed some stuff off the windows
partition, it was amazing how much nice FC6 was than windows xp. 

Not that FC6 does not have issue but they are far less and more manageable
than XPs. 

Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

I beat the crap out of an IBM T-series laptop, doing over 250K airline
miles going back and forth between Dallas and Tokyo over a 1 year
period. Loved that laptop. Can't seem to keep a Dell going for more
than six months these days, and that's without all the travel. I've
told our IT guys over and over that it's false economy to buy the
Dells, but the corporate guys just see the initial $$$ and think
they're saving money..


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 6/15/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Reactor Operator License.
>
> Hands down the most durable laptop I know of is the IBM/Lenovo
> T-series.  These are the laptop equivilent of a early eighties benz,
> just plain solid, I have had about five of these over the years
> (corporate and personal) and they are nearly indestructable.  NOTHING
> wears out, and I carry mine around all day bumping it around.  Tons of
> peripherals and add-ons are available from IBM, and the software
> support (drivers, BIOS updates, etc) are easy to deal with.  Best part
> is you can get a "refurbished" one from an IBM reseller on ebay for
> pretty cheap and it will still have a 3-year IBM warrantee.  I am
> pretty sure the refurb units are corporate fleet returns that have
> little to no use, the two personal units I got had absolutely no signs
> on use at all.
>
> If you really just need a basic word processing, email, office diesel
> benz type system I recommend a T42 or similar, I bet they are under a
> grand for a decent one.  If you want more oomph (450sl) then get a T62
> or similar.
>
>  -Zach

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread Gary Thompson
I beat the crap out of an IBM T-series laptop, doing over 250K airline
miles going back and forth between Dallas and Tokyo over a 1 year
period. Loved that laptop. Can't seem to keep a Dell going for more
than six months these days, and that's without all the travel. I've
told our IT guys over and over that it's false economy to buy the
Dells, but the corporate guys just see the initial $$$ and think
they're saving money..


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 6/15/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Reactor Operator License.
>
> Hands down the most durable laptop I know of is the IBM/Lenovo
> T-series.  These are the laptop equivilent of a early eighties benz,
> just plain solid, I have had about five of these over the years
> (corporate and personal) and they are nearly indestructable.  NOTHING
> wears out, and I carry mine around all day bumping it around.  Tons of
> peripherals and add-ons are available from IBM, and the software
> support (drivers, BIOS updates, etc) are easy to deal with.  Best part
> is you can get a "refurbished" one from an IBM reseller on ebay for
> pretty cheap and it will still have a 3-year IBM warrantee.  I am
> pretty sure the refurb units are corporate fleet returns that have
> little to no use, the two personal units I got had absolutely no signs
> on use at all.
>
> If you really just need a basic word processing, email, office diesel
> benz type system I recommend a T42 or similar, I bet they are under a
> grand for a decent one.  If you want more oomph (450sl) then get a T62
> or similar.
>
>  -Zach

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[MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread Royce Engler
I bought a used Dell C400 on eBay in 2003...it has been a trooper.  I've
worn out 3 hard drives, a battery, added memory, and multiple docking
stations (one at the office and a couple around the house...don't ask)
upgraded from W2K to XP (it still has the sticker on it that says "Designed
for XP"), and it keeps on going.  I like:  the small size, light weight,
bright screen, Dell support...even for a non-warranty machine.  I don't
like: low powered USB 1.1, 9 pin serial port, no keyboard or mouse support,
but those are all functions of the age of the machine.  It was built during
the transition period between old serial and new USB.  I also bought a used
Dell C400 for my daughter on eBay...same story.

My company issues us Lenovo T60s.  It's been bulletproof as well, and I like
having a second drive bay.  Took me a while to figure out that the hard
drive is a SATA but I hadn't kept up with what they looked like.  Given that
I was previously strongly anti-IBM (stinkPad, anyone???) I have been
pleasantly surprised.

Royce Engler
'85 300TD 299K


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread LarryT
If you could carry a hidden camera you could probably win one of those 
$1 best video prizes!  That sounds so cool.   We should all do that - 
you know, freak out the salespeople who walk up to us with questions like:

Person: I will clean 3 rooms of carpet for $50!
Me (you) - Great!  Can you get blood out?  A lot of blood?  So even the CSI 
people can't find it with their little blue lights?  And can you do it 
really fast?  Like today?

or
Person:  I bet you need new windows! or Siding or Carpet?
Are you kidding me?  What would I do with all that crap?  I've been homeless 
for 6 years!!  Moron,  BTW, you got $5 - the liquor store opens in 10 min.

I'll bet ya'll can come up with some excellent comebacks for those people 
who call just as we're starting dinner - which I never answer anyway  ;-)

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>
> I love walking through the mall and the guy says "I can beat your current 
> cell plan" and I say oh yeah? I get PAID $500 a month to have mine...
> The looks are priceless.
>
> And its true, its a work phone and I get paid extra to do 24x7 support 
> which is why I have it.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:43:03 -0500
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread Loren Faeth
Tell us more.  What is Fusion and what is unity?

At 12:01 PM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>Fusion has been working well for me on my MacBook (and is still a free
>Beta); especially the new version with Unity, where you can have your
>Windows applications running in windows that are intermingled with your
>Apple aps,... pretty slick, except that you have to remember to 'speak'
>Windows when you move into those aps.
>
>
>cheers!
>e
>
>
>Loren Faeth wrote:
> > In theory, you still have to buy windows.  I have a volume license,
> > as a Microsoft Partner, so for me it is free.  If you have a copy of
> > windows from another machine you won't be using, you can install it
> > on the Mac using Bootcamp.  Parallels is an option.  It was not
> > available last year when we bought the Macbook.  Boot Camp was, and
> > it is free.  SO, there was no net cost from making the Macbook dual
> > boot.  I have heard that windows is somewhat slower in parallels than
> > in Dual boot.  The Macbook boots pretty fast, so it has not been a
> > major pain to reboot in the desired OS.
> >
> > Loren
> >
> > At 12:44 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >> It seems than at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:31:11 -0500, Loren wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> For my $$$, the Macbook with Boot camp and windows is ideal.  For
> >>> surfing and itunes and I-anything use the mac.  When you need
> >>> Windoze, boot it into Windoze and go.
> >>>
> >> BootCamp lets you install a copy of MSWindows, right? But you
> >> still have to purchase a copy of the version of MSWindows that
> >> you want to use.
> >>
> >> What about Parallels? Still have to buy two operating systems,
> >> but now MSWindows is running as a process in Mac OS.
> >>
> >> --  Philip
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread ernest breakfield
Fusion has been working well for me on my MacBook (and is still a free 
Beta); especially the new version with Unity, where you can have your 
Windows applications running in windows that are intermingled with your 
Apple aps,... pretty slick, except that you have to remember to 'speak' 
Windows when you move into those aps.


cheers!
e


Loren Faeth wrote:
> In theory, you still have to buy windows.  I have a volume license, 
> as a Microsoft Partner, so for me it is free.  If you have a copy of 
> windows from another machine you won't be using, you can install it 
> on the Mac using Bootcamp.  Parallels is an option.  It was not 
> available last year when we bought the Macbook.  Boot Camp was, and 
> it is free.  SO, there was no net cost from making the Macbook dual 
> boot.  I have heard that windows is somewhat slower in parallels than 
> in Dual boot.  The Macbook boots pretty fast, so it has not been a 
> major pain to reboot in the desired OS.
>
> Loren
>
> At 12:44 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>   
>> It seems than at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:31:11 -0500, Loren wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> For my $$$, the Macbook with Boot camp and windows is ideal.  For
>>> surfing and itunes and I-anything use the mac.  When you need
>>> Windoze, boot it into Windoze and go.
>>>   
>> BootCamp lets you install a copy of MSWindows, right? But you
>> still have to purchase a copy of the version of MSWindows that
>> you want to use.
>>
>> What about Parallels? Still have to buy two operating systems,
>> but now MSWindows is running as a process in Mac OS.
>>
>> --  Philip
>>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread Allan Streib
Years ago I had a PowerMac (this was the 603 PowerPC processor,
pre-dating the G3 even).  I had some software called Virtual PC that
let me run DOS and Windows (Win95 at the time) programs.  It really
worked well.  I could use the inkjet printer on my Mac to print from
Windows programs, even cut/paste between Windows and Mac apps.

Both Parallels and BootCamp require an Intel-based Mac.  If you end up
with a PowerPC mac, you'll need Virtual PC (now a Microsoft product).

Allan 

Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In theory, you still have to buy windows.  I have a volume license, 
> as a Microsoft Partner, so for me it is free.  If you have a copy of 
> windows from another machine you won't be using, you can install it 
> on the Mac using Bootcamp.  Parallels is an option.  It was not 
> available last year when we bought the Macbook.  Boot Camp was, and 
> it is free.  SO, there was no net cost from making the Macbook dual 
> boot.  I have heard that windows is somewhat slower in parallels than 
> in Dual boot.  The Macbook boots pretty fast, so it has not been a 
> major pain to reboot in the desired OS.
>
> Loren
>
> At 12:44 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>>It seems than at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:31:11 -0500, Loren wrote:
>>
>> > For my $$$, the Macbook with Boot camp and windows is ideal.  For
>> > surfing and itunes and I-anything use the mac.  When you need
>> > Windoze, boot it into Windoze and go.
>>
>>BootCamp lets you install a copy of MSWindows, right? But you
>>still have to purchase a copy of the version of MSWindows that
>>you want to use.
>>
>>What about Parallels? Still have to buy two operating systems,
>>but now MSWindows is running as a process in Mac OS.
>>
>>--  Philip
>>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread Gary Hurst
amen to that

On 6/15/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost eight years, I
> > somehow caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me into
> > getting a MotoQ. As a result, in order to be able to use the phone's
> > gazillion features, I had to update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can
> > hear yous guys) to Outlook Office 2003 (That train has long since
> > left the station.I know, I know.remember I'm a computer Mental
> > Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must say.
>
> I only wish you could still get a cell phone that was just a phone.
> No cameras, email, web browser, etc.  All needless complexity.
>
> > Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process
> > of getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something quick, light
> > (since I'll be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be
> > dealing with pdf stuff and power point stuff. I do, of course, want
> > wireless and the ability to manage my iTune stuff.
>
> Get an Apple MacBook.  Probably the small one (13") if weight /
> portability is a big factor.  They used to make an even smaller one
> (12"); those have the G4 processor, not Intel and you'd have to get it
> used or refurb if you wanted that size.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread Loren Faeth
In theory, you still have to buy windows.  I have a volume license, 
as a Microsoft Partner, so for me it is free.  If you have a copy of 
windows from another machine you won't be using, you can install it 
on the Mac using Bootcamp.  Parallels is an option.  It was not 
available last year when we bought the Macbook.  Boot Camp was, and 
it is free.  SO, there was no net cost from making the Macbook dual 
boot.  I have heard that windows is somewhat slower in parallels than 
in Dual boot.  The Macbook boots pretty fast, so it has not been a 
major pain to reboot in the desired OS.

Loren

At 12:44 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote:
>It seems than at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:31:11 -0500, Loren wrote:
>
> > For my $$$, the Macbook with Boot camp and windows is ideal.  For
> > surfing and itunes and I-anything use the mac.  When you need
> > Windoze, boot it into Windoze and go.
>
>BootCamp lets you install a copy of MSWindows, right? But you
>still have to purchase a copy of the version of MSWindows that
>you want to use.
>
>What about Parallels? Still have to buy two operating systems,
>but now MSWindows is running as a process in Mac OS.
>
>--  Philip
>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread LWB250
BootCamp only allows you to set up a separate
partition which allows you to boot into Windows (which
you do have to have a separate license for, yes.)  In
other words, you either boot into Windows or boot into
OS X, you can't switch back and forth.

Parallels is virtualization software that allows you
to switch back and forth between OSs, e.g., you are
running both operating systems at the same time and
can move back and forth without rebooting.

There are some arrangements coming that will allow
Windows-based programs to run under OS X, mostly
games, but they won't even require that Windows be
installed on the machine.

I use BootCamp on my son's 17" C2D iMac so he can
continue to use the Windows based games he owns.  It
works amazingly well, and according to him, better
that Windows for some of the titles.

MacDan




--- Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BootCamp lets you install a copy of MSWindows,
> right? But you
> still have to purchase a copy of the version of
> MSWindows that
> you want to use.
> 
> What about Parallels? Still have to buy two
> operating systems,
> but now MSWindows is running as a process in Mac OS.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-16 Thread Curt Raymond

I love walking through the mall and the guy says "I can beat your current cell 
plan" and I say oh yeah? I get PAID $500 a month to have mine...
The looks are priceless.

And its true, its a work phone and I get paid extra to do 24x7 support which is 
why I have it.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:43:03 -0500
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Wish I could to this but I run 1000 + minutes / month on my phone.


Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:31:11 -0500, Loren wrote:

> For my $$$, the Macbook with Boot camp and windows is ideal.  For 
> surfing and itunes and I-anything use the mac.  When you need 
> Windoze, boot it into Windoze and go.

BootCamp lets you install a copy of MSWindows, right? But you
still have to purchase a copy of the version of MSWindows that
you want to use.

What about Parallels? Still have to buy two operating systems,
but now MSWindows is running as a process in Mac OS.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread BillR
My sympathies are with you.  I used to do that between 4 cell phones, but
for some strange reason when the last girl child moved out it no longer
happened.  When I went to pre-paid I had over 10,000 minutes rolled over
that I lost.  Cheaper for me with pre-pay, though, now that I am retired.
BillR

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Wish I could to this but I run 1000 + minutes / month on my phone.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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I got very tired of the high cell phone bills and went to a pre-paid
$0.25/minute plan.  I just kept my old phones.  $100.00 prepay will rollover
for a year [more than enough for my wife and M-I-L], and after 3 months I've
used @ $70 on mine.  MUCH less $$ than I was paying before.  Doubt I'll ever
go back to a contract phone.
BillR

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You can still get a basic phone from tracfone for about $15 , it does the
job and no contract.It's all that I'll use after getting sucked into a cell
phone for traveling on business early on in cell phone land with the big bag
phone and finding out the hard way that you can get billed $10 a whack just
for having your phone turned on whilst traveling by someones tower while
roaming ( I don't think that still goes on, but the memory lingers )

--Robert

Allan Streib wrote:
>
> I only wish you could still get a cell phone that was just a phone.
> No cameras, email, web browser, etc.  All needless complexity.
>
>
> Allan
>   


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Mitch Haley


BillR wrote:
> 
> I got very tired of the high cell phone bills and went to a pre-paid
> $0.25/minute plan.  I just kept my old phones.  $100.00 prepay will rollover
> for a year [more than enough for my wife and M-I-L], and after 3 months I've
> used @ $70 on mine.  MUCH less $$ than I was paying before.  Doubt I'll ever
> go back to a contract phone.

With Tracfone you can get double minutes for the life of the phone for $50.
Then you can buy airtime for 8-10 cents. I can get three phones, six
60min/90 day airtime cards, and a one month double minute plan for $90.
That gives me about 800 minutes and 600 days, plus two extra phones.
Some of their phones (Nokia 1100 & 2600, Motorola V170 and C155) have
free incoming text messages. Fun for text alerts from Yahoo, my local
gas station, etc.

T-Mobile will give you a year and 1000 minutes for $100, and another year
with zero minutes for $10 if you didn't use up your minutes. I saw a basic
T-Mo phone at Target a while back for $85 including the one year / 1000 min.
Coverage isn't as good as with some providers. I had a Net10 on T-Mo once,
quickly asked Net10 to switch it to Cingular (now AT&T), because it had
zero coverage in the city where I worked. 

Tracfone's sister company, Net10, charges ten cents a minute, but you have
to buy 150 minutes a month. Works well if you have GSM (AT&T or T-Mo) coverage
and your usage is on the high side of the prepaid spectrum. They used to have
a one year / 1500 minute card for $150, I wish they would bring that back. 

I get Kmart gift cards from Dealpass at 20% off, and buy airtime for my mom's
Net10 with them, so it's 8 cents per minute / $12 per month. She dropped her
long distance service and burns up the excess Net10 minutes on long distance 
calls.
Since she was paying more than $12 a month for long distance before, the Net10
is basically free. 

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Loren Faeth
The macbook for $1k is not spendy in my (cheapskate) book.  If you 
want to go cheaper, get an ibook used (maybe $200) and put the 
Windoze remote desktop client (used to be called Terminal Services 
Client) on it and just hookup when you need winders.


They are thinner, lighter and very slick.  I have not seen a winders 
laptop for under 3 times the price that is as light, thin and FAST as 
a macbook.  Macbook is STILL the best windows or Mac laptop for the cash.


Loren

At 02:05 PM 6/15/2007, you wrote:


I agree but they can be spendy...

Then I got thinking about the 2 work laptops I've had, both were 
"desktop replacement" systems.
The first was a Dell Inspiron 8500, now I've got an HP nw8000. Both 
are excellent machines. The Dell got handed down to somebody in tech 
support when I moved to training and the HP was handed down to me.
I like the Dell marginally better, its thinner, has better 
ergonomics and a slightly bigger screen. The HP has better battery 
life and its is brighter.


Also remember I travel a fair amount and I carry the laptop between 
work and home each and every day so the both have gotten beaten 
around pretty good.
What I'm getting at is pretty much all good name brand laptops are 
good stuff. Find one based on how its ergonomics work for you, thats 
probably the most important part.


-Curt

Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:00:17 -0700
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Bob,

I agree wholeheartedly with Allan.  Go for an Apple MacBook or
iBook G4.

I've had my iBook G4 for close to two years.  Been bulletproof.  No
Viruses. No problems.  And Mac's are a lot less complicated to run
than PC's..

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Tom Hargrave
Wish I could to this but I run 1000 + minutes / month on my phone.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
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I got very tired of the high cell phone bills and went to a pre-paid
$0.25/minute plan.  I just kept my old phones.  $100.00 prepay will rollover
for a year [more than enough for my wife and M-I-L], and after 3 months I've
used @ $70 on mine.  MUCH less $$ than I was paying before.  Doubt I'll ever
go back to a contract phone.
BillR

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You can still get a basic phone from tracfone for about $15 , it does the
job and no contract.It's all that I'll use after getting sucked into a cell
phone for traveling on business early on in cell phone land with the big bag
phone and finding out the hard way that you can get billed $10 a whack just
for having your phone turned on whilst traveling by someones tower while
roaming ( I don't think that still goes on, but the memory lingers )

--Robert

Allan Streib wrote:
>
> I only wish you could still get a cell phone that was just a phone.
> No cameras, email, web browser, etc.  All needless complexity.
>
>
> Allan
>   


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Loren Faeth

Dunno about the Q  that happens in a coup[le of months for me.

As for laptops:  I was just working on a merge in Word/excel when a 
longtime friend walked in.  He said "I don't know anything about 
Apple"   I said,  "Oh actually, right now I am running windows.  It 
just happens to be running on a Macbook."  I was kinda startled, 
because once you are in Word or Excel, it doesn't make much 
difference what is running underneath.


For my $$$, the Macbook with Boot camp and windows is ideal.  For 
surfing and itunes and I-anything use the mac.  When you need 
Windoze, boot it into Windoze and go.  They are under a grand, Wicked 
fast, and fairly reliable.  I would purchase the applecare within a 
year of purchase.  That means if anything does fail, Apple will fix 
it for 3 yrs, not just 1.


Completely compatible with  itunes and ipods and i phone and I-anything.

Loren
Lotsa Winders boxes, 2000 Pro, XP pro, Server 2003R2, Exchange, SQL 2005 etc.
an Ibook
and a Macbook
And several old Macs
and several Apple IIs still hanging around


At 10:30 AM 6/15/2007, you wrote:

Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost eight years, I somehow
caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me into getting a MotoQ. As a
result, in order to be able to use the phone's gazillion features, I had to
update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can hear yous guys) to Outlook Office
2003 (That train has long since left the station.I know, I know.remember I'm
a computer Mental Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must say.

Anyone have one of these MotoQs? Tips? Hints? Tricks?



Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process of
getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something quick, light (since I'll
be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be dealing with pdf stuff
and power point stuff. I do, of course, want wireless and the ability to
manage my iTune stuff. Remember, I'm a computerus dorkus maximus so use
small words and easily understood ideas.



Bob Rentfro

'77 300D 174K

Goodyear, AZ





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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread BillR
I got very tired of the high cell phone bills and went to a pre-paid
$0.25/minute plan.  I just kept my old phones.  $100.00 prepay will rollover
for a year [more than enough for my wife and M-I-L], and after 3 months I've
used @ $70 on mine.  MUCH less $$ than I was paying before.  Doubt I'll ever
go back to a contract phone.
BillR

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You can still get a basic phone from tracfone for about $15 , it does 
the job and no contract.It's all that I'll use after getting sucked into 
a cell phone for traveling on business early on in cell phone land with 
the big bag phone and finding out the hard way that you can get billed 
$10 a whack just for having your phone turned on whilst traveling by 
someones tower while roaming ( I don't think that still goes on, but the 
memory lingers )

--Robert

Allan Streib wrote:
>
> I only wish you could still get a cell phone that was just a phone.
> No cameras, email, web browser, etc.  All needless complexity.
>
>
> Allan
>   


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Curt Raymond

I agree but they can be spendy...

Then I got thinking about the 2 work laptops I've had, both were "desktop 
replacement" systems.
The first was a Dell Inspiron 8500, now I've got an HP nw8000. Both are 
excellent machines. The Dell got handed down to somebody in tech support when I 
moved to training and the HP was handed down to me.
I like the Dell marginally better, its thinner, has better ergonomics and a 
slightly bigger screen. The HP has better battery life and its is brighter.

Also remember I travel a fair amount and I carry the laptop between work and 
home each and every day so the both have gotten beaten around pretty good.
What I'm getting at is pretty much all good name brand laptops are good stuff. 
Find one based on how its ergonomics work for you, thats probably the most 
important part.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:00:17 -0700
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Bob,

I agree wholeheartedly with Allan.  Go for an Apple MacBook or  
iBook G4.

I've had my iBook G4 for close to two years.  Been bulletproof.  No  
Viruses. No problems.  And Mac's are a lot less complicated to run  
than PC's..

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

   
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On 6/15/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hands down the most durable laptop I know of is the IBM/Lenovo
> T-series.  These are the laptop equivilent of a early eighties benz,
> just plain solid, I have had about five of these over the years
> (corporate and personal) and they are nearly indestructable.  NOTHING
> wears out, and I carry mine around all day bumping it around.  Tons of
> peripherals and add-ons are available from IBM, and the software
> support (drivers, BIOS updates, etc) are easy to deal with.  Best part
> is you can get a "refurbished" one from an IBM reseller on ebay for
> pretty cheap and it will still have a 3-year IBM warrantee.  I am
> pretty sure the refurb units are corporate fleet returns that have
> little to no use, the two personal units I got had absolutely no signs
> on use at all.
>
> If you really just need a basic word processing, email, office diesel
> benz type system I recommend a T42 or similar, I bet they are under a
> grand for a decent one.  If you want more oomph (450sl) then get a T62
> or similar.

I vote for a ThinkPad T40, T41, or T42 as well.  The comparison to an
'80s Benz is apt.  (Lots of metal where most other laptops have
plastic!)  You can buy certified used ones direct from IBM... no need
to mess around on eBay if you don't want the hassle.  $500-$600 will
get you one that will run Windows XP nicely.  I hate to say it, being
a Mac user most of the time, but these are a much better deal than any
Apple laptop that will run OS X usably fast (I don't consider Hursty's
Pismo usable).

Alex Chamberlain



Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
You can still get a basic phone from tracfone for about $15 , it does 
the job and no contract.It's all that I'll use after getting sucked into 
a cell phone for traveling on business early on in cell phone land with 
the big bag phone and finding out the hard way that you can get billed 
$10 a whack just for having your phone turned on whilst traveling by 
someones tower while roaming ( I don't think that still goes on, but the 
memory lingers )


--Robert

Allan Streib wrote:


I only wish you could still get a cell phone that was just a phone.
No cameras, email, web browser, etc.  All needless complexity.


Allan
  





Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread LWB250
One word:

MacBook.

MacDan



--- Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost
> eight years, I somehow
> caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me
> into getting a MotoQ. As a
> result, in order to be able to use the phone's
> gazillion features, I had to
> update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can hear yous
> guys) to Outlook Office
> 2003 (That train has long since left the station.I
> know, I know.remember I'm
> a computer Mental Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must
> say.
> 
> Anyone have one of these MotoQs? Tips? Hints?
> Tricks?
> 
>  
> 
> Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the
> 18 month process of
> getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something
> quick, light (since I'll
> be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be
> dealing with pdf stuff
> and power point stuff. I do, of course, want
> wireless and the ability to
> manage my iTune stuff. Remember, I'm a computerus
> dorkus maximus so use
> small words and easily understood ideas.
> 
>  
> 
> Bob Rentfro
> 
> '77 300D 174K
> 
> Goodyear, AZ
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread John M McIntosh

On Jun 15, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

> Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost eight years, I  
> somehow
> caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me into getting a  
> MotoQ. As a
> result, in order to be able to use the phone's gazillion features,  
> I had to
> update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can hear yous guys) to Outlook  
> Office
> 2003 (That train has long since left the station.I know, I  
> know.remember I'm
> a computer Mental Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must say.
>
> Anyone have one of these MotoQs? Tips? Hints? Tricks?

Couldn't wait for an iPhone?

>
>
>
> Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process of
> getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something quick, light  
> (since I'll
> be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be dealing with  
> pdf stuff
> and power point stuff. I do, of course, want wireless and the  
> ability to
> manage my iTune stuff. Remember, I'm a computerus dorkus maximus so  
> use
> small words and easily understood ideas.

Any apple macbook would be fine.


>
>
>
> Bob Rentfro
>
> '77 300D 174K
>
> Goodyear, AZ
>

John
1983 300TDt  382k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  196 Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Bob,

I agree wholeheartedly with Allan.  Go for an Apple MacBook or  
iBook G4.


I've had my iBook G4 for close to two years.  Been bulletproof.  No  
Viruses. No problems.  And Mac's are a lot less complicated to run  
than PC's..


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:00 AM, Allan Streib wrote:


"Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost eight years, I
somehow caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me into
getting a MotoQ. As a result, in order to be able to use the phone's
gazillion features, I had to update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can
hear yous guys) to Outlook Office 2003 (That train has long since
left the station.I know, I know.remember I'm a computer Mental
Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must say.


I only wish you could still get a cell phone that was just a phone.
No cameras, email, web browser, etc.  All needless complexity.


Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process
of getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something quick, light
(since I'll be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be
dealing with pdf stuff and power point stuff. I do, of course, want
wireless and the ability to manage my iTune stuff.


Get an Apple MacBook.  Probably the small one (13") if weight /
portability is a big factor.  They used to make an even smaller one
(12"); those have the G4 processor, not Intel and you'd have to get it
used or refurb if you wanted that size.

Allan
--
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread BillR
Thanks Mitch - I saved that one for when I run out of minutes on mine.  Wife
and MIL won't use $100 worth of $0.25 minutes in ten years.
BillR

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BillR wrote:
> 
> I got very tired of the high cell phone bills and went to a pre-paid
> $0.25/minute plan.  I just kept my old phones.  $100.00 prepay will
rollover
> for a year [more than enough for my wife and M-I-L], and after 3 months
I've
> used @ $70 on mine.  MUCH less $$ than I was paying before.  Doubt I'll
ever
> go back to a contract phone.

With Tracfone you can get double minutes for the life of the phone for $50.
Then you can buy airtime for 8-10 cents. I can get three phones, six
60min/90 day airtime cards, and a one month double minute plan for $90.
That gives me about 800 minutes and 600 days, plus two extra phones.
Some of their phones (Nokia 1100 & 2600, Motorola V170 and C155) have
free incoming text messages. Fun for text alerts from Yahoo, my local
gas station, etc.

T-Mobile will give you a year and 1000 minutes for $100, and another year
with zero minutes for $10 if you didn't use up your minutes. I saw a basic
T-Mo phone at Target a while back for $85 including the one year / 1000 min.
Coverage isn't as good as with some providers. I had a Net10 on T-Mo once,
quickly asked Net10 to switch it to Cingular (now AT&T), because it had
zero coverage in the city where I worked. 

Tracfone's sister company, Net10, charges ten cents a minute, but you have
to buy 150 minutes a month. Works well if you have GSM (AT&T or T-Mo)
coverage
and your usage is on the high side of the prepaid spectrum. They used to
have
a one year / 1500 minute card for $150, I wish they would bring that back. 

I get Kmart gift cards from Dealpass at 20% off, and buy airtime for my
mom's
Net10 with them, so it's 8 cents per minute / $12 per month. She dropped her
long distance service and burns up the excess Net10 minutes on long distance
calls.
Since she was paying more than $12 a month for long distance before, the
Net10
is basically free. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Zach

--- Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process
> of
> getting my Reactor Operator License.

Hands down the most durable laptop I know of is the IBM/Lenovo
T-series.  These are the laptop equivilent of a early eighties benz,
just plain solid, I have had about five of these over the years
(corporate and personal) and they are nearly indestructable.  NOTHING
wears out, and I carry mine around all day bumping it around.  Tons of
peripherals and add-ons are available from IBM, and the software
support (drivers, BIOS updates, etc) are easy to deal with.  Best part
is you can get a "refurbished" one from an IBM reseller on ebay for
pretty cheap and it will still have a 3-year IBM warrantee.  I am
pretty sure the refurb units are corporate fleet returns that have
little to no use, the two personal units I got had absolutely no signs
on use at all.

If you really just need a basic word processing, email, office diesel
benz type system I recommend a T42 or similar, I bet they are under a
grand for a decent one.  If you want more oomph (450sl) then get a T62
or similar.

  -Zach







Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Luther
Read the manual cover to cover.  I'm sure there are features of the phone that 
you won't use, but you might miss something that you could use.

I just purchased a used IBM Thinkpad R32 2.0 Ghg, 40G harddrive, 256MB memory, 
CDRW/DVD, etc for less than $450 shipping/tax included.  They also have several 
more slower T-series laptops for less than $300.

Luther

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:30:58 -0500, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost eight years, I somehow
> caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me into getting a MotoQ. As a
> result, in order to be able to use the phone's gazillion features, I had to
> update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can hear yous guys) to Outlook Office
> 2003 (That train has long since left the station.I know, I know.remember I'm
> a computer Mental Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must say.
>
> Anyone have one of these MotoQs? Tips? Hints? Tricks?
>
>
> Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process of
> getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something quick, light (since I'll
> be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be dealing with pdf stuff
> and power point stuff. I do, of course, want wireless and the ability to
> manage my iTune stuff. Remember, I'm a computerus dorkus maximus so use
> small words and easily understood ideas.
>
>
> Bob Rentfro
>
> '77 300D 174K
>
> Goodyear, AZ
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Allan Streib
"Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost eight years, I
> somehow caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me into
> getting a MotoQ. As a result, in order to be able to use the phone's
> gazillion features, I had to update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can
> hear yous guys) to Outlook Office 2003 (That train has long since
> left the station.I know, I know.remember I'm a computer Mental
> Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must say.

I only wish you could still get a cell phone that was just a phone.
No cameras, email, web browser, etc.  All needless complexity.

> Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process
> of getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something quick, light
> (since I'll be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be
> dealing with pdf stuff and power point stuff. I do, of course, want
> wireless and the ability to manage my iTune stuff.

Get an Apple MacBook.  Probably the small one (13") if weight /
portability is a big factor.  They used to make an even smaller one
(12"); those have the G4 processor, not Intel and you'd have to get it
used or refurb if you wanted that size.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



[MBZ] O.T. Dipping My Toe in the Pool of Technology

2007-06-15 Thread Bob Rentfro
Since I hadn't bought a new cell phone in almost eight years, I somehow
caved in and let my 16 year-old daughter talk me into getting a MotoQ. As a
result, in order to be able to use the phone's gazillion features, I had to
update from Outlook Express (gasp.I can hear yous guys) to Outlook Office
2003 (That train has long since left the station.I know, I know.remember I'm
a computer Mental Midget).  'Twas pretty easy I must say.

Anyone have one of these MotoQs? Tips? Hints? Tricks?

 

Also need notebook/laptop advice. I'm starting the 18 month process of
getting my Reactor Operator License. Need something quick, light (since I'll
be schlepping it around) and durable. I'll mostly be dealing with pdf stuff
and power point stuff. I do, of course, want wireless and the ability to
manage my iTune stuff. Remember, I'm a computerus dorkus maximus so use
small words and easily understood ideas.

 

Bob Rentfro

'77 300D 174K

Goodyear, AZ