Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Coupe -2 cars - $4,500
Not all CDs had leather but most did. On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 10:52 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah I guess the trashed seats do look more like leather. Maybe the ones > in the parts car are TEX, they look pretty good actually just need some > cleaning. > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2023, at 10:36, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > > I think the coupés were leather seats but maybe not all > > > > --FT > > Sent from iFōn > > > >> On Feb 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Runner and parts car. What the heck happened to the seats in the white > car? MBTEX ususally holds up better than that. > >> > >> > https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/joliet-1985-mercedes-300cd-coupe-cars/7586413947.html > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Coupe -2 cars - $4,500
Yeah I guess the trashed seats do look more like leather. Maybe the ones in the parts car are TEX, they look pretty good actually just need some cleaning. On Mon, Feb 6, 2023, at 10:36, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I think the coupés were leather seats but maybe not all > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Feb 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Runner and parts car. What the heck happened to the seats in the white car? >> MBTEX ususally holds up better than that. >> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/joliet-1985-mercedes-300cd-coupe-cars/7586413947.html >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Coupe -2 cars - $4,500
I don't think Dwight's coupe has leather. I could be wrong though... -Curt On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 10:37:15 AM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I think the coupés were leather seats but maybe not all --FT Sent from iFōn > On Feb 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Runner and parts car. What the heck happened to the seats in the white car? > MBTEX ususally holds up better than that. > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/joliet-1985-mercedes-300cd-coupe-cars/7586413947.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Coupe -2 cars - $4,500
I think the coupés were leather seats but maybe not all --FT Sent from iFōn > On Feb 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Runner and parts car. What the heck happened to the seats in the white car? > MBTEX ususally holds up better than that. > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/joliet-1985-mercedes-300cd-coupe-cars/7586413947.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD Coupe -2 cars - $4,500
Runner and parts car. What the heck happened to the seats in the white car? MBTEX ususally holds up better than that. https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/joliet-1985-mercedes-300cd-coupe-cars/7586413947.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD - 236k miles - $16,800
Worst possible color combination IMO and the mileage is also a deterrent. On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 9:08 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I bet that is close to market after watching these & my insurance > experience with my 82 300CD. > Low production numbers & US market only > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Not bad looking, but high-ish miles. Are these worth that much? Or is > > there an extra 1 in the price? > > > > > > > https://cookeville.craigslist.org/cto/d/cookeville-1985-mercedes-300cd-diesel/7573063388.html > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD - 236k miles - $16,800
I bet that is close to market after watching these & my insurance experience with my 82 300CD. Low production numbers & US market only On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not bad looking, but high-ish miles. Are these worth that much? Or is > there an extra 1 in the price? > > > https://cookeville.craigslist.org/cto/d/cookeville-1985-mercedes-300cd-diesel/7573063388.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD - 236k miles - $16,800
I say $10k too high, but maybe I’m wrong. If this is reasonable, Kaleb better get busy AF on his coupes. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not bad looking, but high-ish miles. Are these worth that much? Or is there > an extra 1 in the price? > > https://cookeville.craigslist.org/cto/d/cookeville-1985-mercedes-300cd-diesel/7573063388.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD - 236k miles - $16,800
Not bad looking, but high-ish miles. Are these worth that much? Or is there an extra 1 in the price? https://cookeville.craigslist.org/cto/d/cookeville-1985-mercedes-300cd-diesel/7573063388.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD - 132k miles - $1,450
Like a body, engine, interior, etc. On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 1:32 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ratty, "could use floor pans and some other little things" > > > https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/versailles-1985-mercedes-benz-300d-2dr/7426404120.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD - 132k miles - $1,450
Ratty, "could use floor pans and some other little things" https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/versailles-1985-mercedes-benz-300d-2dr/7426404120.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300cd with stupid low miles
With bidding to match. 49 state edition. Pretty car, aka garage queen. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300cd-turbo-15-2 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yes, I now remember. This may be why Rich has become uncharacteristically reticent. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Cat poop dermaders and pepper jelly OMG, what did I promise as an incentive? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Well I have been getting maters from the farm across the road, and made some awesome hot sauce on Sunday with my peppers I grew in pots (just plant-based compost, no poo) and some peaches. I am guessing that pepper jelly grew in el merde del gato too... But if I am up there anytime again I will swing by and at least have a taste of the poowares. --R On 8/16/12 11:04 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Yes, I now remember. This may be why Rich has become uncharacteristically reticent. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Cat poop dermaders and pepper jelly OMG, what did I promise as an incentive? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
When I was a kid, my Uncle Henry lived with us after Aunt Ollie died. He started tomatoes from seed in a pan full of dirt that he kept on the back porch and then transplanted them outside. One day at dinner my mother was going on about how good Henrys tomatoes were until my father, who was a little bit jealous of Henry, told her what he watered them with. Henry kept a coffee can by his bed that he wee-wee'd in during the night. In the morning before anyone else was up besides he and my father, he would dump it on the little tomato plants. I don't think my mother ever ate another one of Henrys tomatoes. Gerry From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Yes, I now remember. This may be why Rich has become uncharacteristically reticent. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Cat poop dermaders and pepper jelly OMG, what did I promise as an incentive? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5203 - Release Date: 08/15/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
I guarantee that all my urban farm produce is 100% free from human byproducts. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: When I was a kid, my Uncle Henry lived with us after Aunt Ollie died. He started tomatoes from seed in a pan full of dirt that he kept on the back porch and then transplanted them outside. One day at dinner my mother was going on about how good Henrys tomatoes were until my father, who was a little bit jealous of Henry, told her what he watered them with. Henry kept a coffee can by his bed that he wee-wee'd in during the night. In the morning before anyone else was up besides he and my father, he would dump it on the little tomato plants. I don't think my mother ever ate another one of Henrys tomatoes. Gerry From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Yes, I now remember. This may be why Rich has become uncharacteristically reticent. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Cat poop dermaders and pepper jelly OMG, what did I promise as an incentive? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5203 - Release Date: 08/15/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Anybody else read the humanure handbook? We tried it once at camp, can't find where I dumped the bucket anymore so I suppose it worked. Never had any smell or other problems. If I were going to try at home I'd make a special compost pile and let it age plenty of time. People get so worried about human waste. Theres a great pic going around on Facebook where a little kid says Lemmie get this straight, you've got so much water you $#!t in it? -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:32:45 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Message-ID: CAC35L=sC_C3Zd=XU=gozzrselcgp19zchxmghbpdj4hymyz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guarantee that all my urban farm produce is 100% free from human byproducts. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: When I was a kid, my Uncle Henry lived with us after Aunt Ollie died. He started tomatoes from seed in a pan full of dirt that he kept on the back porch and then transplanted them outside. One day at dinner my mother was going on about how good Henrys tomatoes were until my father, who was a little bit jealous of Henry, told her what he watered them with. Henry kept a coffee can by his bed that he wee-wee'd in during the night. In the morning before anyone else was up besides he and my father, he would dump it on the little tomato plants. I don't think my mother ever ate another one of Henrys tomatoes. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
I have yet to see any scientific evidence against the use of composed cat waste in a vegetable garden. The bugaboo spread by ignoramuses is the parasitic disease toxoplasmosis, which can spread from felines to adults and adolescents. In this specific case, our cats are 100 percent house bound, eat commercial cat food that contains no animal byproducts, and use a corn based litter. I compost their waste along with Starbucks coffee grounds, vegetal kitchen scraps, and leaves grass clippings from a back yard that never sees pesticides. After a year, I till this composed stuff into the soil. The reason I do this is to reduce the household waste stream and improve the fertility and tilth of the soil in the yard. So, far, the results speak for themselves. When you stop to think of the toxic chemicals used on conventionally grown fruits and vegetables, there is no comparison. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody else read the humanure handbook? We tried it once at camp, can't find where I dumped the bucket anymore so I suppose it worked. Never had any smell or other problems. If I were going to try at home I'd make a special compost pile and let it age plenty of time. People get so worried about human waste. Theres a great pic going around on Facebook where a little kid says Lemmie get this straight, you've got so much water you $#!t in it? -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:32:45 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Message-ID: CAC35L=sC_C3Zd=XU=gozzrselcgp19zchxmghbpdj4hymyz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I guarantee that all my urban farm produce is 100% free from human byproducts. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: When I was a kid, my Uncle Henry lived with us after Aunt Ollie died. He started tomatoes from seed in a pan full of dirt that he kept on the back porch and then transplanted them outside. One day at dinner my mother was going on about how good Henrys tomatoes were until my father, who was a little bit jealous of Henry, told her what he watered them with. Henry kept a coffee can by his bed that he wee-wee'd in during the night. In the morning before anyone else was up besides he and my father, he would dump it on the little tomato plants. I don't think my mother ever ate another one of Henrys tomatoes. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
The local cats poop in my garden probably daily until plants come up and I'm not dead yet. I compost our dog's waste by throwing it under a tree in the corner of the yard where I leave a lot of leaves. Never any smell or trace of poo and again I'm not dead yet... All of our food waste goes in the compost pile along with much of our paper waste. If we had more food waste I could use more of the paper waste. -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:40:48 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Message-ID: CAC35L=s3-z9yuyergjkvopzl+ura0pd+uknkx8yxtfwxzg8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have yet to see any scientific evidence against the use of composed cat waste in a vegetable garden. The bugaboo spread by ignoramuses is the parasitic disease toxoplasmosis, which can spread from felines to adults and adolescents. In this specific case, our cats are 100 percent house bound, eat commercial cat food that contains no animal byproducts, and use a corn based litter. I compost their waste along with Starbucks coffee grounds, vegetal kitchen scraps, and leaves grass clippings from a back yard that never sees pesticides. After a year, I till this composed stuff into the soil. The reason I do this is to reduce the household waste stream and improve the fertility and tilth of the soil in the yard. So, far, the results speak for themselves. When you stop to think of the toxic chemicals used on conventionally grown fruits and vegetables, there is no comparison. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody else read the humanure handbook? We tried it once at camp, can't find where I dumped the bucket anymore so I suppose it worked. Never had any smell or other problems. If I were going to try at home I'd make a special compost pile and let it age plenty of time. People get so worried about human waste. Theres a great pic going around on Facebook where a little kid says Lemmie get this straight, you've got so much water you $#!t in it? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yes according to the web site it is, as well as with R-12 and all the different oils. Here is the FAQ on that one; -- Q: Is Enviro-Safe ™ Refrigerant compatible with other refrigerants? A: This answer is actually twofold. Yes, it is compatible with all other refrigerants and will not harm the system. In the United States though, it is currently not legal to mix different types of refrigerants together. Intentionally mixing Enviro-Safe™ Refrigerant with another refrigerant unlike itself is not in accordance with the USEPA. -- I can report from personal experience that it is compatible with R134 and PAG because that is what I had in mine and it still had about 5 psi in the system when I added the ES-12a. On top of that it doesn't generate any acid if there is any moisture in the system like R134 does. Of course it would probably be better to clean the system if you had R134 in there just to remove any possible acid that the R134 has created. If you had R-12 in there you are supposed to change to R134 first and of course we will all do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Now that the dust has settled, the AC/hot air issue was way simpler than any of us had imagined, and the #14 fuse may also have been a red herring. The system was simply low on freon and now everything works perfectly. SWMBO will now become SWIP (she who is pleased). On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:03 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes according to the web site it is, as well as with R-12 and all the different oils. Here is the FAQ on that one; -- Q: Is Enviro-Safe ™ Refrigerant compatible with other refrigerants? A: This answer is actually twofold. Yes, it is compatible with all other refrigerants and will not harm the system. In the United States though, it is currently not legal to mix different types of refrigerants together. Intentionally mixing Enviro-Safe™ Refrigerant with another refrigerant unlike itself is not in accordance with the USEPA. -- I can report from personal experience that it is compatible with R134 and PAG because that is what I had in mine and it still had about 5 psi in the system when I added the ES-12a. On top of that it doesn't generate any acid if there is any moisture in the system like R134 does. Of course it would probably be better to clean the system if you had R134 in there just to remove any possible acid that the R134 has created. If you had R-12 in there you are supposed to change to R134 first and of course we will all do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Rich wins the internet for the second time today!!! W W! Was it not Rich who first asked, Are you sure you have enough refrigerant? --R On 8/15/12 1:11 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Now that the dust has settled, the AC/hot air issue was way simpler than any of us had imagined, and the #14 fuse may also have been a red herring. The system was simply low on freon and now everything works perfectly. SWMBO will now become SWIP (she who is pleased). On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:03 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes according to the web site it is, as well as with R-12 and all the different oils. Here is the FAQ on that one; -- Q: Is Enviro-Safe ™ Refrigerant compatible with other refrigerants? A: This answer is actually twofold. Yes, it is compatible with all other refrigerants and will not harm the system. In the United States though, it is currently not legal to mix different types of refrigerants together. Intentionally mixing Enviro-Safe™ Refrigerant with another refrigerant unlike itself is not in accordance with the USEPA. -- I can report from personal experience that it is compatible with R134 and PAG because that is what I had in mine and it still had about 5 psi in the system when I added the ES-12a. On top of that it doesn't generate any acid if there is any moisture in the system like R134 does. Of course it would probably be better to clean the system if you had R134 in there just to remove any possible acid that the R134 has created. If you had R-12 in there you are supposed to change to R134 first and of course we will all do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Now that the dust has settled, the AC/hot air issue was way simpler than any of us had imagined, and the #14 fuse may also have been a red herring. The system was simply low on freon and now everything works perfectly. SWMBO will now become SWIP (she who is pleased). On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:03 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes according to the web site it is, as well as with R-12 and all the different oils. Here is the FAQ on that one; -- Q: Is Enviro-Safe ™ Refrigerant compatible with other refrigerants? A: This answer is actually twofold. Yes, it is compatible with all other refrigerants and will not harm the system. In the United States though, it is currently not legal to mix different types of refrigerants together. Intentionally mixing Enviro-Safe™ Refrigerant with another refrigerant unlike itself is not in accordance with the USEPA. -- I can report from personal experience that it is compatible with R134 and PAG because that is what I had in mine and it still had about 5 psi in the system when I added the ES-12a. On top of that it doesn't generate any acid if there is any moisture in the system like R134 does. Of course it would probably be better to clean the system if you had R134 in there just to remove any possible acid that the R134 has created. If you had R-12 in there you are supposed to change to R134 first and of course we will all do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Rich wins the internet for the second time today!!! W W! Was it not Rich who first asked, Are you sure you have enough refrigerant? --R On 8/15/12 1:11 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Now that the dust has settled, the AC/hot air issue was way simpler than any of us had imagined, and the #14 fuse may also have been a red herring. The system was simply low on freon and now everything works perfectly. SWMBO will now become SWIP (she who is pleased). On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:03 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes according to the web site it is, as well as with R-12 and all the different oils. Here is the FAQ on that one; -- Q: Is Enviro-Safe ™ Refrigerant compatible with other refrigerants? A: This answer is actually twofold. Yes, it is compatible with all other refrigerants and will not harm the system. In the United States though, it is currently not legal to mix different types of refrigerants together. Intentionally mixing Enviro-Safe™ Refrigerant with another refrigerant unlike itself is not in accordance with the USEPA. -- I can report from personal experience that it is compatible with R134 and PAG because that is what I had in mine and it still had about 5 psi in the system when I added the ES-12a. On top of that it doesn't generate any acid if there is any moisture in the system like R134 does. Of course it would probably be better to clean the system if you had R134 in there just to remove any possible acid that the R134 has created. If you had R-12 in there you are supposed to change to R134 first and of course we will all do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
OMG, what did I promise as an incentive? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Rich wins the internet for the second time today!!! W W! Was it not Rich who first asked, Are you sure you have enough refrigerant? --R On 8/15/12 1:11 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Now that the dust has settled, the AC/hot air issue was way simpler than any of us had imagined, and the #14 fuse may also have been a red herring. The system was simply low on freon and now everything works perfectly. SWMBO will now become SWIP (she who is pleased). On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:03 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes according to the web site it is, as well as with R-12 and all the different oils. Here is the FAQ on that one; -- Q: Is Enviro-Safe ™ Refrigerant compatible with other refrigerants? A: This answer is actually twofold. Yes, it is compatible with all other refrigerants and will not harm the system. In the United States though, it is currently not legal to mix different types of refrigerants together. Intentionally mixing Enviro-Safe™ Refrigerant with another refrigerant unlike itself is not in accordance with the USEPA. -- I can report from personal experience that it is compatible with R134 and PAG because that is what I had in mine and it still had about 5 psi in the system when I added the ES-12a. On top of that it doesn't generate any acid if there is any moisture in the system like R134 does. Of course it would probably be better to clean the system if you had R134 in there just to remove any possible acid that the R134 has created. If you had R-12 in there you are supposed to change to R134 first and of course we will all do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Cat poop dermaders and pepper jelly OMG, what did I promise as an incentive? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yeah I was thinking if you set to max cooling it would keep the monovalve closed so any cycling of it would point back toward the control apparatus while a steady state at the monovalve points to the monovalve itself. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:42:28 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Message-ID: 20120813144228.18278a55.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: You could wire a light to the monovalve and watch for it's activity. Power out I think means monovalve open which means heat on. Even if I've got the state backwards (light on versus out) if the monovalve is always powered to a constant state while having alternating hot and cold it should point to a bad monovalve. Nope. The monovalve modulates the heat by turning on and off. Although, if it's in cool-the-cabin mode, maybe it should stay water-off - which is power-on. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Easy enough to test but it wouldn't make it cycle between hot and cold I don't think. Or is it that its cold air until the engine warms up and it becomes hot air? -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:22:48 -0400 From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Message-ID: 50298c48.2010...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed electronic unit for temp control. Don't know if that is the Klima relay or not but when it happened to me the AC compressor also ran just like it should but the air came out hot. That almost lead me to doing the replacement thing till I remembered that the same thing happened on my daughter's 83 SD about a year ago. We changed the monovalve, the relay and did the pushbutton resolder. Nothing helped until we changed # 14 fuse. So that's why I checked the plug on the Monovalve and had no 12 volt there so checked the fuse and it looked good but when I put a new one in everything worked like it should again. Hope it's the same with yours. Manfred Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
On mine and also on my daughter's car it was cold till the car warmed up but it also occasionally would work right as when going over a bump would make a connection at the fuse and the mono valve would close. Though more commonly it would work or not work after starting the engine after it had been parked at a store. In any case changing the fuse fixed both of our cars and it appears that from his report it also fixed Andrew's car. Doing something that simple probably wouldn't fix any of the other components if they were bad. Though I guess it didn't hurt to resolder the pushbutton board on my daughter's car. I did mine about 3 years ago because I was getting erratic behavior on the vents and fan speeds which worked fine after that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Easy enough to test but it wouldn't make it cycle between hot and cold I don't think. Or is it that its cold air until the engine warms up and it becomes hot air? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
8 amp white fuse, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:16 AM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: If that's the blue fuse, it's probably dead because your aux water pump burnt it out. Next to go will be the pushbutton controls if you don't take that aux pump out of the circuit. When they seize up, they blow the control unit. Best defense is to unplug it. D. Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Who said it was the #14 fuse? I changed it out even though it looked OK (if a bit funky). Since then, I have driven 30 minutes nonstop with the air blowing ICE COLD. Whether it stil works when SWMBO drives her car is yet TBD. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: electronic unit for temp control. Don't know if that is the Klima relay or not but when it happened to me the AC compressor also ran just like it should but the air came out hot. That almost lead me to doing the replacement thing till I remembered that the same thing happened on my daughter's 83 SD about a year ago. We changed the monovalve, the relay and did the pushbutton resolder. Nothing helped until we changed # 14 fuse. So that's why I checked the plug on the Monovalve and had no 12 volt there so checked the fuse and it looked good but when I put a new one in everything worked like it should again. Hope it's the same with yours. Manfred Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Thanks again. We also needed 2 lbs. of R134. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:30 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: On mine and also on my daughter's car it was cold till the car warmed up but it also occasionally would work right as when going over a bump would make a connection at the fuse and the mono valve would close. Though more commonly it would work or not work after starting the engine after it had been parked at a store. In any case changing the fuse fixed both of our cars and it appears that from his report it also fixed Andrew's car. Doing something that simple probably wouldn't fix any of the other components if they were bad. Though I guess it didn't hurt to resolder the pushbutton board on my daughter's car. I did mine about 3 years ago because I was getting erratic behavior on the vents and fan speeds which worked fine after that. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Easy enough to test but it wouldn't make it cycle between hot and cold I don't think. Or is it that its cold air until the engine warms up and it becomes hot air? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Glad to be able to help. That low charge would have accounted for the quick cycling of the compressor. If you need any more freon later you might want to try that Enviro Safe ES-12a. It is working really good in our cars, much better than the R134 that I was using before. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:42:49 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Thanks again. We also needed 2 lbs. of R134. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Wilton - Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Glad to be able to help. That low charge would have accounted for the quick cycling of the compressor. If you need any more freon later you might want to try that Enviro Safe ES-12a. It is working really good in our cars, much better than the R134 that I was using before. Manfred Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:42:49 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Thanks again. We also needed 2 lbs. of R134. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Nope. Need to remove it first. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
'Zackly. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that? Nope. Need to remove it first. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
What do the gauges read when it is running? Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort of. That switch (among others too I guess) controls the clutch on the compressor. Might be a lose (loose) connection or bad switch or something. Just put a meter on it while it is running and see if it is wonky. If not that, then you will have to start working through the other possibilities. Trace wires to make sure nothing worn. BTW last night I made some amazingly awesome peach hot pepper sauce with some peppers of various sorts I grew in pots, and some peaches from the farm stand across the road (SC peaches from upstate). Some onion and garlic too, with a bit of rum to sterilize the bottles. It is the best hot sauce I have ever had, not a lot of immediate punch but a nice slow afterburn. A bit sweet from the peaches but just enough to smooth out the flavor. I dipped some green beans in it with my supper, incredible. --R On 8/13/12 10:37 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Sounds almost as good as pepper jelly made from peppers grown on an urban outpost on the northwestern frontier of Washington, DC. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort of. That switch (among others too I guess) controls the clutch on the compressor. Might be a lose (loose) connection or bad switch or something. Just put a meter on it while it is running and see if it is wonky. If not that, then you will have to start working through the other possibilities. Trace wires to make sure nothing worn. BTW last night I made some amazingly awesome peach hot pepper sauce with some peppers of various sorts I grew in pots, and some peaches from the farm stand across the road (SC peaches from upstate). Some onion and garlic too, with a bit of rum to sterilize the bottles. It is the best hot sauce I have ever had, not a lot of immediate punch but a nice slow afterburn. A bit sweet from the peaches but just enough to smooth out the flavor. I dipped some green beans in it with my supper, incredible. --R On 8/13/12 10:37 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Rich Thomas wrote: Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort of. That switch (among others too I guess) controls the clutch on the compressor. Not on an '85. The KLIMA is in charge. The pressure switch is simply a data input for the KLIMA. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
BTW, Andrew, what are you growing in the front yard? 'Looks good. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Sounds almost as good as pepper jelly made from peppers grown on an urban outpost on the northwestern frontier of Washington, DC. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort of. That switch (among others too I guess) controls the clutch on the compressor. Might be a lose (loose) connection or bad switch or something. Just put a meter on it while it is running and see if it is wonky. If not that, then you will have to start working through the other possibilities. Trace wires to make sure nothing worn. BTW last night I made some amazingly awesome peach hot pepper sauce with some peppers of various sorts I grew in pots, and some peaches from the farm stand across the road (SC peaches from upstate). Some onion and garlic too, with a bit of rum to sterilize the bottles. It is the best hot sauce I have ever had, not a lot of immediate punch but a nice slow afterburn. A bit sweet from the peaches but just enough to smooth out the flavor. I dipped some green beans in it with my supper, incredible. --R On 8/13/12 10:37 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
More than likely it is an electrical problem. Look at fuse # 14 rotate or put a new one in there. That's the one that sends 12V to the monovalve to keep it closed. When the fuse goes wonky the monovalve gets no 12V and opens letting hot water through. The AC works as normal but can't overcome the full hot flow of the water. Happened to me just a few weeks ago. Manfred Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:37:16 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
You could wire a light to the monovalve and watch for it's activity. Power out I think means monovalve open which means heat on. If the light is always on meaning monovalve closed that would point to a defective (although good looking) monovalve. Even if I've got the state backwards (light on versus out) if the monovalve is always powered to a constant state while having alternating hot and cold it should point to a bad monovalve. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:37:16 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Message-ID: CAC35L=sM-cC_bGoOe7=a8ACJDmWWmXaK0JnYYdgHXB-mP2Vn=w...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
I may be wrong here, but doesn't the klima relay only control the function of the AC compressor? That is, it has nothing to do with the control of the heater valve, fan speed, etc. The push button unit does this. Your problem is that is going between heating and cooling erratically, right? That is, its opening the monovalve when you don't expect it, for example. Therefore, I'd look harder at the push button unit and its inputs. Go over the trouble shooting in the service manual. Check all the sensors. You might have an intermittent problem, making it much harder to track down. If my input is a repeat or I missed something, sorry about that... I haven't followed the whole thread. Jaime On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:21 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
hmm, would a bad switch cause the klima to cause the compressor to cycle? --R On 8/13/12 2:17 PM, Fmiser wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort of. That switch (among others too I guess) controls the clutch on the compressor. Not on an '85. The KLIMA is in charge. The pressure switch is simply a data input for the KLIMA. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Curt Raymond wrote: You could wire a light to the monovalve and watch for it's activity. Power out I think means monovalve open which means heat on. Even if I've got the state backwards (light on versus out) if the monovalve is always powered to a constant state while having alternating hot and cold it should point to a bad monovalve. Nope. The monovalve modulates the heat by turning on and off. Although, if it's in cool-the-cabin mode, maybe it should stay water-off - which is power-on. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I may be wrong here, but doesn't the klima relay only control the function of the AC compressor? That is, it has nothing to do with the control of the heater valve, fan speed, etc. The push button unit does this. Ah. Good point. The _speed_ and _temperature_ of the it's-not-cold state will be a clue. If it's the KLIMA or the compressor turning off, the change will be rather slow (minute or two) and not hot - just not quite so cold. If it the monovalve or the controller, the change can be pretty quick (half a minute) and clearly hot air. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit? On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: You could wire a light to the monovalve and watch for it's activity. Power out I think means monovalve open which means heat on. Even if I've got the state backwards (light on versus out) if the monovalve is always powered to a constant state while having alternating hot and cold it should point to a bad monovalve. Nope. The monovalve modulates the heat by turning on and off. Although, if it's in cool-the-cabin mode, maybe it should stay water-off - which is power-on. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Has the pushbutton unit been resoldered or is that not a problem on the '85s? The mechanical pushbutton switches malfunctioned on my '83 and caused the unit to burn up. The used unit I bought had to be resoldered, so while it was apart I squirted some Deoxit on the switch contacts and lubricated the mechanical parts with oil (I forget which; synthetic or 3 in 1.) So far it's coninued to work satisfactorily. Gerry From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net hmm, would a bad switch cause the klima to cause the compressor to cycle? --R On 8/13/12 2:17 PM, Fmiser wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort of. That switch (among others too I guess) controls the clutch on the compressor. Not on an '85. The KLIMA is in charge. The pressure switch is simply a data input for the KLIMA. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5197 - Release Date: 08/13/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
electronic unit for temp control. Don't know if that is the Klima relay or not but when it happened to me the AC compressor also ran just like it should but the air came out hot. That almost lead me to doing the replacement thing till I remembered that the same thing happened on my daughter's 83 SD about a year ago. We changed the monovalve, the relay and did the pushbutton resolder. Nothing helped until we changed # 14 fuse. So that's why I checked the plug on the Monovalve and had no 12 volt there so checked the fuse and it looked good but when I put a new one in everything worked like it should again. Hope it's the same with yours. Manfred Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Who said it was the #14 fuse? I changed it out even though it looked OK (if a bit funky). Since then, I have driven 30 minutes nonstop with the air blowing ICE COLD. Whether it stil works when SWMBO drives her car is yet TBD. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: electronic unit for temp control. Don't know if that is the Klima relay or not but when it happened to me the AC compressor also ran just like it should but the air came out hot. That almost lead me to doing the replacement thing till I remembered that the same thing happened on my daughter's 83 SD about a year ago. We changed the monovalve, the relay and did the pushbutton resolder. Nothing helped until we changed # 14 fuse. So that's why I checked the plug on the Monovalve and had no 12 volt there so checked the fuse and it looked good but when I put a new one in everything worked like it should again. Hope it's the same with yours. Manfred Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Congratulations! 'Hope it holds. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Who said it was the #14 fuse? I changed it out even though it looked OK (if a bit funky). Since then, I have driven 30 minutes nonstop with the air blowing ICE COLD. Whether it stil works when SWMBO drives her car is yet TBD. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: electronic unit for temp control. Don't know if that is the Klima relay or not but when it happened to me the AC compressor also ran just like it should but the air came out hot. That almost lead me to doing the replacement thing till I remembered that the same thing happened on my daughter's 83 SD about a year ago. We changed the monovalve, the relay and did the pushbutton resolder. Nothing helped until we changed # 14 fuse. So that's why I checked the plug on the Monovalve and had no 12 volt there so checked the fuse and it looked good but when I put a new one in everything worked like it should again. Hope it's the same with yours. Manfred Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:48:43 -0400 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Who said it was the #14 fuse? I changed it out even though it looked OK (if a bit funky). Since then, I have driven 30 minutes nonstop with the air blowing ICE COLD. Whether it stil works when SWMBO drives her car is yet TBD. So when was the last time you CHANGED ALL YOUR FUSES? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
If that's the blue fuse, it's probably dead because your aux water pump burnt it out. Next to go will be the pushbutton controls if you don't take that aux pump out of the circuit. When they seize up, they blow the control unit. Best defense is to unplug it. D. Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Who said it was the #14 fuse? I changed it out even though it looked OK (if a bit funky). Since then, I have driven 30 minutes nonstop with the air blowing ICE COLD. Whether it stil works when SWMBO drives her car is yet TBD. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: electronic unit for temp control. Don't know if that is the Klima relay or not but when it happened to me the AC compressor also ran just like it should but the air came out hot. That almost lead me to doing the replacement thing till I remembered that the same thing happened on my daughter's 83 SD about a year ago. We changed the monovalve, the relay and did the pushbutton resolder. Nothing helped until we changed # 14 fuse. So that's why I checked the plug on the Monovalve and had no 12 volt there so checked the fuse and it looked good but when I put a new one in everything worked like it should again. Hope it's the same with yours. Manfred Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check the little grille on the dash for suction, however. I swapped in another klima relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Best , of course, is free or no additional cost. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Yes, the second best kind! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
BTW, my 91 350SDL heating/cooling had a hunting problem somewhat like that about a year and a half ago 'til I installed new kit in monovalve. 'Noticed you've found your monovalve to be in good condition. 'Hope new KLIMA fixes it. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check the little grille on the dash for suction, however. I swapped in another klima relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Best , of course, is free or no additional cost. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Yes, the second best kind! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Klima swap made no difference - still cycles the compressor and blows hot air. Temp sensor hose is intact. I'm running out of east options. Maybe the monovalve only looks good but is rotten at heart? On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, my 91 350SDL heating/cooling had a hunting problem somewhat like that about a year and a half ago 'til I installed new kit in monovalve. 'Noticed you've found your monovalve to be in good condition. 'Hope new KLIMA fixes it. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check the little grille on the dash for suction, however. I swapped in another klima relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Best , of course, is free or no additional cost. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Yes, the second best kind! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
'fraid it is time to get out the DMM and start working through the twenty-odd steps to diagnose your HVAC system, see section 83 in the FSM... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Klima swap made no difference - still cycles the compressor and blows hot air. Temp sensor hose is intact. I'm running out of east options. Maybe the monovalve only looks good but is rotten at heart? On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, my 91 350SDL heating/cooling had a hunting problem somewhat like that about a year and a half ago 'til I installed new kit in monovalve. 'Noticed you've found your monovalve to be in good condition. 'Hope new KLIMA fixes it. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check the little grille on the dash for suction, however. I swapped in another klima relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Best , of course, is free or no additional cost. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Yes, the second best kind! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
andrew strasfogel wrote: Could this be the klima relay? Sure! I use the KLIMA as a scape goat for all ills. *smiles* Actually, I suspect not, but I don't (yet) grok the KLIMA ...I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? Big rectangular relay looking thing on the drivers side (port), aft side of the inner fender. It's outboard of the brake booster and immediately aft of the blue flying saucer transmission vacuum thing. It gets in the way of getting to the fuses. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
I had a hunch that might be the klima but thought this it can't be this easy. Thanks! On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Could this be the klima relay? Sure! I use the KLIMA as a scape goat for all ills. *smiles* Actually, I suspect not, but I don't (yet) grok the KLIMA ...I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? Big rectangular relay looking thing on the drivers side (port), aft side of the inner fender. It's outboard of the brake booster and immediately aft of the blue flying saucer transmission vacuum thing. It gets in the way of getting to the fuses. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Two things to check. First is that there is suction past the interior temp sensor (in the dash, I think). If not, the foam hose under the dash between the plastic pipe and the fan box has fallen apart and you are getting zero air movement past the sensor from the fan, resulting wide variations in temp control as random air movement changes the temp. The second thing that does this is a broken wire or a defective temp sensor. They are thermistors, so open or shorted is a problem, otherwise they should read some resistance at room temp and change with heat or cold. Typically on a W123 the foam hose has fallen apart. Replace it with some heater hose. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yes, the second best kind! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yup. If the foam bypass tube has deteriorated (broken down to dust and now missing) between the air box and the thermistor in the dash, a piece of 1/2 black foam pipe insulation will replace it perfectly and you'll even have enough left over to use in another 20 years. The easiest way to see is by taking out the glove box and looking up at the bottom of the dash pad. You can also use the tissue test, which entails the use of a small square of tissue that you place over the grille that covers the thermistor in the dash while the system is running. There should be a very tiny bit of resistance when you remove the tissue caused by the air being drawn in through the grille. This works especially well in 124 chassis cars that have the little helper blower at the base of the passenger side A pillar. The 124 grille is on the ceiling in the cluster of stuff containing the map lights and sunroof switches. Dan On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wrote: A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Best , of course, is free or no additional cost. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Yes, the second best kind! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A $2 repair? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it? Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be replaced with similar tube from hardware store. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect) and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed. What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating, clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air. Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located? _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD intermittently sticking transmission issue
Aha. Thanks, John. On Feb 4, 2008 5:42 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I don't get it. I want to fix, not disable her car because she's a SWMBO kinda girl. The car would still be able to shift just fine normally, and it would just be a temporary troubleshooting kind of thing. If there is something else in the kickdown circuitry that is acting funny you could tell that way. Not sure if there is extra circuitry on that car... on my '79 300SD there is. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD intermittently sticking transmission issue
andrew strasfogel wrote: I don't get it. I want to fix, not disable her car because she's a SWMBO kinda girl. The car would still be able to shift just fine normally, and it would just be a temporary troubleshooting kind of thing. If there is something else in the kickdown circuitry that is acting funny you could tell that way. Not sure if there is extra circuitry on that car... on my '79 300SD there is. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD intermittently sticking transmission issue
andrew strasfogel wrote: Her 1985 300CD intermittently won't progress past first gear unless we stop the car, turn it off, and press the throttle to the floor. When we re-start the car, it upshifts normally. I installed a new kick down switch a few months ago, which reduced the frequency but did not end this glitch. Could the transmission be on its last legs or is there an external [cheap] adjustment that can be made? The car still has its original, well-maintained transmission with approximately 210 K miles. It does NOT SLIP between gears, just occasionally STICKS in first (more often than not when it's cold, first thing in the AM). Disconnect the wire to the kickdown solenoid? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD intermittently sticking transmission issue
Group, Her 1985 300CD intermittently won't progress past first gear unless we stop the car, turn it off, and press the throttle to the floor. When we re-start the car, it upshifts normally. I installed a new kick down switch a few months ago, which reduced the frequency but did not end this glitch. Could the transmission be on its last legs or is there an external [cheap] adjustment that can be made? The car still has its original, well-maintained transmission with approximately 210 K miles. It does NOT SLIP between gears, just occasionally STICKS in first (more often than not when it's cold, first thing in the AM). Any suggestions or theories greatly appreciated! Andrew 1983 300 TD (well behaved and on its third transmission, 285 K miles) 1985 300 CD (hers) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD intermittently sticking transmission issue
I don't get it. I want to fix, not disable her car because she's a SWMBO kinda girl. On Feb 4, 2008 5:15 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Her 1985 300CD intermittently won't progress past first gear unless we stop the car, turn it off, and press the throttle to the floor. When we re-start the car, it upshifts normally. I installed a new kick down switch a few months ago, which reduced the frequency but did not end this glitch. Could the transmission be on its last legs or is there an external [cheap] adjustment that can be made? The car still has its original, well-maintained transmission with approximately 210 K miles. It does NOT SLIP between gears, just occasionally STICKS in first (more often than not when it's cold, first thing in the AM). Disconnect the wire to the kickdown solenoid? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD stuck in first gear (goes in reverse)
Spot on, Jim. I removed the floor mat, pushed the pedal to the floor a couple times, started it up and drove away with smooth shifting in all gears. Not sure why it acted up, but to play it safe a new kick down switch is on the way... 300CD 214 K miles On 8/29/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help! This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first gear! She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus! What should I do when I get home to check it out? Could it be low fluid? Stuck kickdown switch? This has happened before but i forget how it was resolved (perhaps a new switch). It moves in reverse. I'd suspect the switch first. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD stuck in first gear (goes in reverse)
Help! This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first gear! She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus! What should I do when I get home to check it out? Could it be low fluid? Stuck kickdown switch? This has happened before but i forget how it was resolved (perhaps a new switch). It moves in reverse. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD stuck in first gear (goes in reverse)
Help! This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first gear! She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus! What should I do when I get home to check it out? Could it be low fluid? Stuck kickdown switch? This has happened before but i forget how it was resolved (perhaps a new switch). It moves in reverse. I'd suspect the switch first. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD Seat locking problem solved, sort of...
Many thanks to Marshall and Jim for their assistance in solving the case of the floppy seat backs in her 1985 300CD. Anyway, this morning I discovered that I can manually move the locking hardware on the inside of each bucket seat into the lock position with the engine running, and the seats then stay locked safely while we are driving! Each seat back unlocks properly when a door is opened or the release button on the side of the chair is pressed, but the linkages will not move by themselves into the locking position (although they will stay there once I slide the hooked lever into place). Is it possible there is a problem in the locking circuit only? BTW, I'd appreciate it if someone could send me Marshall's message containing the links to the manual pages as i accidentally deleted it. :(( Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300CD
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Seat locking problem solved, sort of...
andrew strasfogel wrote: Many thanks to Marshall and Jim for their assistance in solving the case of the floppy seat backs in her 1985 300CD. Anyway, this morning I discovered that I can manually move the locking hardware on the inside of each bucket seat into the lock position with the engine running, and the seats then stay locked safely while we are driving! Each seat back unlocks properly when a door is opened or the release button on the side of the chair is pressed, but the linkages will not move by themselves into the locking position (although they will stay there once I slide the hooked lever into place). Is it possible there is a problem in the locking circuit only? BTW, I'd appreciate it if someone could send me Marshall's message containing the links to the manual pages as i accidentally deleted it. :(( http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/Index/Groups/91Seats.htm Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
All I know is that is almost my cars twin. Same yr, same model, same color, and same mileage (well OK mine has 500 more miles) the only thing missing on mine is the trailer hitch. Did I miss something I don't see any mention ablut a new transmission. Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a low milage 1979 240 D in comparable condition sold on ebay for $13,500, what will this one get? It's a much nicer car model and far more fun to drive. Any bets? My guess is $12,250. On 12/14/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where does it say they replaced the transmission? -Original Message- From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 14, 2005 8:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kaleb list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
It seems the 1985 123 300 automatic transmissions never go bad. On 12/14/05, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I know is that is almost my cars twin. Same yr, same model, same color, and same mileage (well OK mine has 500 more miles) the only thing missing on mine is the trailer hitch. Did I miss something I don't see any mention ablut a new transmission. Eric Crunched 85 300CD 87K --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a low milage 1979 240 D in comparable condition sold on ebay for $13,500, what will this one get? It's a much nicer car model and far more fun to drive. Any bets? My guess is $12,250. On 12/14/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where does it say they replaced the transmission? -Original Message- From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 14, 2005 8:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kaleb list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1985 300CD
Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kaleb list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
ohhh baby, I gotta change my underwear now -Original Message- From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 14, 2005 2:44 AM To: kaleb list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
where does it say they replaced the transmission? -Original Message- From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 14, 2005 8:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kaleb list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
If a low milage 1979 240 D in comparable condition sold on ebay for $13,500, what will this one get? It's a much nicer car model and far more fun to drive. Any bets? My guess is $12,250. On 12/14/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where does it say they replaced the transmission? -Original Message- From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 14, 2005 8:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kaleb list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD
There was a similar 300CD advertised in the Nashville, TN paper last weekend for $14,700. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN From: andrew strasfogel If a low milage 1979 240 D in comparable condition sold on ebay for $13,500, what will this one get? It's a much nicer car model and far more fun to drive. Any bets? My guess is $12,250.
