[MBZ] Chrysler sale

[RELNGSON]

Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler "Sold"

DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment  firm, 
Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed 
Daimler 
AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent  interest and loan 
money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus.  This  isn't the 
deal 
that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership 
dealtogether fast enough.
The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much  significant money, but 
Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of  Chrysler's money-losing 
operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes again.

> -Original Message-
> From: @mbusi.daimlerchrysler.com
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:13 AM
> To: undisclosed-recipients:
> Subject: Fw: Zur Neuausrichtung von DaimlerChrysler / Re 
> Realignment of
> DaimlerChrysler
>
>
> From Dr. Z:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> this afternoon in Stuttgart we will present to the public our 
> concept for
> the future of Daimler and Chrysler.
>
> Following a broad strategic review, we have decided to sell a majority
> interest in the Chrysler Group and its related financial services 
> business
> to Cerberus. This decision was not easy to make - and it was 
> particularly
> difficult for me personally. But from an objective point of view, 
> it is the
> right thing to do.
>
> We will retain an equity interest of 19.9% in Chrysler, in part to 
> secure
> the continuity of our common projects. As trusted business partners,
> Mercedes and Chrysler will continue to take advantage of 
> collaborative work
> in the future. To do so we do not need to be an integrated company.
>
> We are convinced that we have found the best solution for Chrysler 
> and its
> employees; one that will ensure the long-term viability of the 
> company.
> With the new ownership structure, Chrysler will have more 
> flexibility and
> will be ideally positioned to implement its comprehensive Recovery and
> Transformation Plan and to sharply focus on its target markets and
> segments.
>
> Daimler will also benefit from the new concept: We will fully focus 
> our
> company on manufacturing and marketing premium products and delivering
> premium services in all of our businesses worldwide. That is our
> traditional strength. It's also where we have the best 
> opportunities for
> sustained and profitable growth.   At the same time, we'll 
> substantially
> reduce our dependence on the volatile volume market segments in the 
> U.S..
>
> To reflect this new alignment of our business, we will change our 
> company's
> name. We will call an Extraordinary Shareholders' Meeting and 
> propose that
> we do business in the future as "Daimler AG".
>
> The Board of Management will be scaled down from nine to six 
> members. Tom
> LaSorda, Eric Ridenour and Tom Sidlik will leave the Board of 
> Management by
> amicable agreement. There will no longer be a separate board 
> position for
> procurement; Bodo Uebber will assume these duties in addition to 
> his other
> responsibilities.
>
> The leadership teams of the Mercedes Car Group, the Truck Group and
> Financial Services will remain unchanged, as will the teams in the 
> vans and
> buses businesses. All of these businesses will continue as integral 
> parts
> of our company.
>
> The new Daimler AG is well positioned for the future. In all of our
> divisions - the Mercedes Car Group, the Truck Group and Financial 
> Services
> - we have the right organizations and strategies, which you are
> implementing with positive results.
>
> We have set clear and ambitious goals for the future:
>
> - We want to be the world's leading manufacturer of premium 
> passenger cars
> and commercial vehicles.
> - We want to fully focus on the needs of our customers and inspire 
> them
> with fascinating products and strong, unique brands.
> - We want to offer the best service and first-class, customer-oriented
> financial services.
> - And we want to live a culture of excellence, ensuring sustained and
> profitable growth.
>
> We are convinced that together, we have the innovative power and the
> pioneering spirit to achieve these goals. Our company invented the
> automobile. Today, in Mercedes we have the strongest automotive 
> brand in
> the world linking our businesses. And last but not least, we have 
> in all of
> you the right team to deliver top performance.
>
> With our new organization, we can now focus all of our attention and
> efforts on the tasks ahead of us, to bring Daimler AG where it 
> belongs - at
> the top of the auto industry. My colleagues and I look forward to 
> traveling
> this road together with you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dieter Zetsche



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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[John M McIntosh]

Yes and my german friends tell me Daimler stock is up 35%, however  
don't *ask* what it was before this debacle.


That and Daimler according the WSJ actually will pay out 500M euros  
as a net loss by the time the paperwork
is signed due to the 7.5B going directly into Chrysler operations,  
financing and debit. So although 7.5B exchanges hands there

lurked folks looking for 8B of money first before Daimler sees a penny.

Still Cerberus gets 18B or something of health-care/pension debt.  
Wonder how they will shed that


I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old  
mercedes technology that has crept into various

Chrysler products over the last couple of years.


On May 14, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler "Sold"

DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment  firm,
Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be  
renamed Daimler
AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent  interest  
and loan
money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus.  This   
isn't the deal

that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership
dealtogether fast enough.
The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much  significant  
money, but
Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of  Chrysler's money- 
losing
operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes- 
Benzes again.

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Wonko the Sane]

I wonder if the sale comes with a warranty?

On 5/14/07, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yes and my german friends tell me Daimler stock is up 35%, however
don't *ask* what it was before this debacle.




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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Christopher McCann]

Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.

Chris



John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes and my german friends tell me 
Daimler stock is up 35%, however  
don't *ask* what it was before this debacle.

That and Daimler according the WSJ actually will pay out 500M euros  
as a net loss by the time the paperwork
is signed due to the 7.5B going directly into Chrysler operations,  
financing and debit. So although 7.5B exchanges hands there
lurked folks looking for 8B of money first before Daimler sees a penny.

Still Cerberus gets 18B or something of health-care/pension debt.  
Wonder how they will shed that

I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old  
mercedes technology that has crept into various
Chrysler products over the last couple of years.


On May 14, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler "Sold"
>
> DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment  firm,
> Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be  
> renamed Daimler
> AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent  interest  
> and loan
> money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus.  This   
> isn't the deal
> that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership
> dealtogether fast enough.
> The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much  significant  
> money, but
> Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of  Chrysler's money- 
> losing
> operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes- 
> Benzes again.


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First thing I'd check would be the fuses.  That's what's been my cause of
the roughly 3 times it's happened.  It's like tied in with the horn and
backup lights.

Or at least that's what I recall with my 83' 300d...

Levi

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> > If I am getting no power what does that signify and what needs fixing??
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> It signifies that you're always going to have heat!
>
> It's the PB array, or the wiring to/from it.  You need to get
> out the car's schematic and start verifying the wiring.  (Grounds,
> power feeds, etc.)  But it's usually the PB array IIRC.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[John M McIntosh]

Ah, a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, not a Chrysler sprinter I'll note. Also  
sold under the Dodge and FreightLiner brand.
I'd guess they'll continue selling them via FreightLiner (aka  
Daimler) brand.  I recall the heavy truck side of Daimler was quite  
profitable.


See ebay on how to convert your Dodge Sprinter badging to the  
original Mercedes brand.


I do wonder if your mercedes dealer would sell them out the back door  
tho.


On May 14, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:


Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.

Chris


John
1983 300TDt  368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[John M McIntosh]

Ah, a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, not a Chrysler sprinter I'll note. Also  
sold under the Dodge and FreightLiner brand.
I'd guess they'll continue selling them via FreightLiner (aka  
Daimler) brand.  I recall the heavy truck side of Daimler was quite  
profitable.


See ebay on how to convert your Dodge Sprinter badging to the  
original Mercedes brand.


I do wonder if your mercedes dealer would sell them out the back door  
tho.


On May 14, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:


Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.

Chris


John
1983 300TDt  368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Bob Rentfro]

Indeed...and thanks for the diesel powered mini van like promised...

Bob R.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale



Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.

Chris



John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes and my german 
friends tell me Daimler stock is up 35%, however

don't *ask* what it was before this debacle.

That and Daimler according the WSJ actually will pay out 500M euros
as a net loss by the time the paperwork
is signed due to the 7.5B going directly into Chrysler operations,
financing and debit. So although 7.5B exchanges hands there
lurked folks looking for 8B of money first before Daimler sees a penny.

Still Cerberus gets 18B or something of health-care/pension debt.
Wonder how they will shed that

I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old
mercedes technology that has crept into various
Chrysler products over the last couple of years.


On May 14, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler "Sold"

DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment  firm,
Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be
renamed Daimler
AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent  interest
and loan
money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus.  This
isn't the deal
that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership
dealtogether fast enough.
The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much  significant
money, but
Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of  Chrysler's money-
losing
operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-
Benzes again.



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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

The sales manger at my local stealer mentioned the badging kit when we were
discussing MB diesels-not sure if he sold them.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of John M McIntosh
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

Ah, a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, not a Chrysler sprinter I'll note. Also  
sold under the Dodge and FreightLiner brand.
I'd guess they'll continue selling them via FreightLiner (aka  
Daimler) brand.  I recall the heavy truck side of Daimler was quite  
profitable.

See ebay on how to convert your Dodge Sprinter badging to the  
original Mercedes brand.

I do wonder if your mercedes dealer would sell them out the back door  
tho.

On May 14, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

> Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.
>
> Chris

John
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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[John M McIntosh]

It will LOSE money, or is that an implied warranty?

On May 14, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:


I wonder if the sale comes with a warranty?




Still if one was a Chrysler parts supplier I'd be phoning and asking  
when  do we get our money, and we'll be glad (NOT) to redo this  
contract now that you've been sold...



Of course I could be wrong in my opinion of USA automobile manufactures

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 13:42:59 -0700 (PDT), Christopher wrote:

> Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.

Maybe it will stay on under the Freightliner badge. That's how
many of the early ones were sold here.

--Philip

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Rich Thomas]

Well, it's time to declare success on the original big deal and give all 
the insightful execs involved big bonuses for their unique business 
acumen and astounding management skills in this wonderful achievement.  
And the board needs to vote themselves big bonuses too for their 
detailed oversight and guidance through the original purchase and now 
the sale.  Oh, and the CEO needs to make a few more really funny 
commercials too telling us how great his stunning contribution was.


--R
  

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[RELNGSON]

> < technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple 
> of years.>>
> 
What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which 
seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. 
Very few are labelled Freightliner.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler "Sold"

DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment  firm, 
Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler 
AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent  interest and loan 
money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus.  This  isn't the deal 
that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership 
dealtogether fast enough.
The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much  significant money, but 
Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of  Chrysler's money-losing 
operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes again.


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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

An interesting take on the sale here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10174381

I wonder if this means that the UPS guy will quit screwing up and 
delivering my MB parts to the local dodge dealer?


Robert

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler "Sold"

DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment  firm, 
Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler 
AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent  interest and loan 
money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus.  This  isn't the deal 
that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership 
dealtogether fast enough.
The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much  significant money, but 
Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of  Chrysler's money-losing 
operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes again.



  

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yeah, I wonder how many billions they lost on this venture. Guess it was 
German arrogance, "Ja we will go and show those Amerika people how to run a 
auto business".


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale



Well, it's time to declare success on the original big deal and give all
the insightful execs involved big bonuses for their unique business
acumen and astounding management skills in this wonderful achievement.
And the board needs to vote themselves big bonuses too for their
detailed oversight and guidance through the original purchase and now
the sale.  Oh, and the CEO needs to make a few more really funny
commercials too telling us how great his stunning contribution was.

--R

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Hendrik Riessen]

Given that Daimler still has a stake in Chrysler I don't see any reason why 
they should not continue at least until they change the model. Especially 
seeing a lot of Dodge dealers would have had to spend money to enable them 
to service the vans.
Anyway it looks like the workers are gonna be the losers out of this 
debacle.


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale



<technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last 
couple

of years.>>

What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van 
which
seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are 
everywhere.

Very few are labelled Freightliner.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Hendrik Riessen]

Apparently the stock holders will decide on the name when they meet.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale



too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Tom Hargrave]

The Germans aren't the issue, its Americans not looking past this month's
car payment and Toyota & Honda understanding our spending habits. Granted,
Toyota makes great cars but so does Chrysler. So do all three American car
manufacturers.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

Yeah, I wonder how many billions they lost on this venture. Guess it was 
German arrogance, "Ja we will go and show those Amerika people how to run a 
auto business".

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale


> Well, it's time to declare success on the original big deal and give all
> the insightful execs involved big bonuses for their unique business
> acumen and astounding management skills in this wonderful achievement.
> And the board needs to vote themselves big bonuses too for their
> detailed oversight and guidance through the original purchase and now
> the sale.  Oh, and the CEO needs to make a few more really funny
> commercials too telling us how great his stunning contribution was.
>
> --R

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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Tom Hargrave]

Daimler Chrysler parts are distributed from the same parts depots. The two
systems merged quite a few years ago. The split will be interesting to watch
since my Wife works for the depot system. It's possible that her job could
go either way.

By the way, I sat down at her computer when I was visiting one Saturday &
compared as many parts as I could think of, from brake parts to suspension
parts to electrical to body & trim parts. Chrysler parts are more expensive
than Mercedes parts in the system but they are more expensive at the
stealership because they have a higher markup. This is another good reason
to buy from Rusty.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Robert & Tara Ludwick
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

 An interesting take on the sale here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10174381

I wonder if this means that the UPS guy will quit screwing up and 
delivering my MB parts to the local dodge dealer?

Robert

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler "Sold"
>>
>> DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment  firm, 
>> Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be
renamed Daimler 
>> AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent  interest and
loan 
>> money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus.  This  isn't
the deal 
>> that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership 
>> dealtogether fast enough.
>> The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much  significant money,
but 
>> Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of  Chrysler's money-losing

>> operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes
again.
>> 
>
>   


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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[John W. Reames III]

On Mon, 14 May 2007, Christopher McCann wrote:


Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.


I have been seeing a fair number of MB badged ones recently. and the hood 
is a different shape to make room for the star, so I suspect it was 
shipped that way.


-j.

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 20:09:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > < > technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last 
> > couple 
> > of years.>>
> > 
> What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which 
> seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. 
> Very few are labelled Freightliner.

I believe that Freightliner quit selling them because Dodge
started selling them. But that's a rather fussy, old memory, so
it could be faulty...

-- Philip

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Christopher McCann]

Hood may seem a different shape, but it is not. I thought that myself at one 
point. If you remove the dodge/freightliner badge and, I think, chrome on the 
edge of the hood, it reveals a semi-circular cutout, which is there to 
accomodate the top portion of the star.

Chris


"John W. Reames III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
On Mon, 14 May 2007, Christopher McCann wrote:

> Wonder what will become of the Sprinter.

I have been seeing a fair number of MB badged ones recently. and the hood 
is a different shape to make room for the star, so I suspect it was 
shipped that way.

-j.


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Both still sell them, I am sure.

Chris



Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 20:09:38 
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> > <
> > technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last 
> > couple 
> > of years.>>
> > 
> What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which 
> seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. 
> Very few are labelled Freightliner.

I believe that Freightliner quit selling them because Dodge
started selling them. But that's a rather fussy, old memory, so
it could be faulty...

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale

[Fmiser]

> Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 20:09:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van 
> > which 
> > seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are 
> > everywhere. 
> > Very few are labelled Freightliner.
> 
> I believe that Freightliner quit selling them because Dodge
> started selling them. But that's a rather fussy, old memory, so
> it could be faulty...
It seems than at Tue, 15 May 2007 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT), Christopher wrote:

> Chris then said:
> Both still sell them, I am sure.

Based on:
http://stage.freightliner.com/brands/sprinter.asp

and:

http://www.fl-sprinter.com/

it would seem my memory is faulty

*sigh*
--  Philip