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The inter-mountain West is semi-arid or desert. The dirt in your front yard can be sand. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Georgetown Traditions: What's A Hoya? The origins of the word Hoya defy simple explanation. Over the years, some have claimed it is an Indian word, while those of a legal mind thought it related to the French word oyez, the traditional opening of judicial sessions. Still others held that with Georgetown's location along a river, Hoya might be an offshoot of the nautical ahoy. None of these claims have held water, so to speak. The official explanation holds that there was a baseball team at Georgetown called the Stonewalls. It is suggested that a student, applying Greek and Latin, dubbed the team the hoia saxa-- hoia is the Greek neuter plural for what or what a, while saxa is the Latin neuter plural for rock. Substituting a y for an i; hoya saxa literally means what rocks. To this day, however, no one has proven exactly when and under what circumstances the yell originated. While there was a Stonewalls team between 1866 and 1873, an actual reference to the team is pure speculation. Some have held that hoia saxa referred not to the team but its surroundings--the team's field (the present site of Copley Lawn) was bounded by the College Walls along 37th street. One theory holds that words such as saxa (Latin for rocks) were scribbled on the walls for years and a similar phrase may have simply been adopted by fans of the baseball team. The Hoya yell gained additional attention in 1920. In that year, a fledgling student newspaper known as The Hilltopper petitioned Rev. Coleman Nevils, S.J., Dean of the College, to change its name to The HOYA, a name said to be more representative of the University. Nevils, who had championed naming the Holy Cross student paper The Hoia without success in 1916, enthusiastically approved the change. As the college paper was often cited by sportswriters covering Georgetown sports in the 1920's, it took only a few years for a nickname to be born. By the fall of 1928, a HOYA sportswriter began to refer to the football team as the Hoyas rather than its contemporary nickname of the Hilltoppers. The change was picked up by local writers as basketball season began, and Hoyas became the official Georgetown nickname within a few years. Among all college programs, only Georgetown University holds this unique team nickname to which its students, faculty, alumni, and fans can take pride in. But the Hoya yell did find its way into the fight songs of two other Jesuit colleges: Holy Cross' Hoiah, Holy Cross, and Marquette's Ring Out Ahoya. Each appears to have its roots, however distant, in the yell begun on a college yard many years ago. In short, Hoya may be difficult to define, but its tradition endures. And that's what it's all about. http://www.hoyasaxa.com/**sports/hoia.htmhttp://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/hoia.htm Gerry ..**... 'Been wondering that, myself. Wilton Loren, where *do* you get this hoya stuff as a synonym for B.S.? Don't have time for the story where I got the word, but as alex surmises it stands for the S part of BS, but is not gender specific, and applies only to large N.A mammals Cattle, Bison and horse specifically. It was a story told at scout camp many years ago, and involves the gummit BIA rep __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3184/5889 - Release Date: 06/06/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, my boy is a Hoya right now, and my niece was a Hoya, and I still ask them, What the hell's a Hoya? --R On 6/6/13 1:56 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I really wanted to keep saying Hoya from the back row repeatedly. I held my tongue, but it is discouraging to hear BSA espousing such BS. Loren, where *do* you get this hoya stuff as a synonym for B.S.? I've never heard this before and I imagine the Georgetown alumni among us can't be pleased. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Been wondering that, myself. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Well, my boy is a Hoya right now, and my niece was a Hoya, and I still ask them, What the hell's a Hoya? --R On 6/6/13 1:56 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I really wanted to keep saying Hoya from the back row repeatedly. I held my tongue, but it is discouraging to hear BSA espousing such BS. Loren, where *do* you get this hoya stuff as a synonym for B.S.? I've never heard this before and I imagine the Georgetown alumni among us can't be pleased. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Been wondering that, myself. Wilton Loren, where *do* you get this hoya stuff as a synonym for B.S.? Don't have time for the story where I got the word, but as alex surmises it stands for the S part of BS, but is not gender specific, and applies only to large N.A mammals Cattle, Bison and horse specifically. It was a story told at scout camp many years ago, and involves the gummit BIA rep ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Georgetown Traditions: What's A Hoya? The origins of the word Hoya defy simple explanation. Over the years, some have claimed it is an Indian word, while those of a legal mind thought it related to the French word oyez, the traditional opening of judicial sessions. Still others held that with Georgetown's location along a river, Hoya might be an offshoot of the nautical ahoy. None of these claims have held water, so to speak. The official explanation holds that there was a baseball team at Georgetown called the Stonewalls. It is suggested that a student, applying Greek and Latin, dubbed the team the hoia saxa-- hoia is the Greek neuter plural for what or what a, while saxa is the Latin neuter plural for rock. Substituting a y for an i; hoya saxa literally means what rocks. To this day, however, no one has proven exactly when and under what circumstances the yell originated. While there was a Stonewalls team between 1866 and 1873, an actual reference to the team is pure speculation. Some have held that hoia saxa referred not to the team but its surroundings--the team's field (the present site of Copley Lawn) was bounded by the College Walls along 37th street. One theory holds that words such as saxa (Latin for rocks) were scribbled on the walls for years and a similar phrase may have simply been adopted by fans of the baseball team. The Hoya yell gained additional attention in 1920. In that year, a fledgling student newspaper known as The Hilltopper petitioned Rev. Coleman Nevils, S.J., Dean of the College, to change its name to The HOYA, a name said to be more representative of the University. Nevils, who had championed naming the Holy Cross student paper The Hoia without success in 1916, enthusiastically approved the change. As the college paper was often cited by sportswriters covering Georgetown sports in the 1920's, it took only a few years for a nickname to be born. By the fall of 1928, a HOYA sportswriter began to refer to the football team as the Hoyas rather than its contemporary nickname of the Hilltoppers. The change was picked up by local writers as basketball season began, and Hoyas became the official Georgetown nickname within a few years. Among all college programs, only Georgetown University holds this unique team nickname to which its students, faculty, alumni, and fans can take pride in. But the Hoya yell did find its way into the fight songs of two other Jesuit colleges: Holy Cross' Hoiah, Holy Cross, and Marquette's Ring Out Ahoya. Each appears to have its roots, however distant, in the yell begun on a college yard many years ago. In short, Hoya may be difficult to define, but its tradition endures. And that's what it's all about. http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/hoia.htm Gerry . 'Been wondering that, myself. Wilton Loren, where *do* you get this hoya stuff as a synonym for B.S.? Don't have time for the story where I got the word, but as alex surmises it stands for the S part of BS, but is not gender specific, and applies only to large N.A mammals Cattle, Bison and horse specifically. It was a story told at scout camp many years ago, and involves the gummit BIA rep ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3184/5889 - Release Date: 06/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/FireandJackPine.htm New jack pine seedlings grow well after a hot fire. Fire causes the cone of an older jack pine tree to open up and release seeds. Cones that need heat, such as the heat from fire, in order to open are called serotinous cones http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/glossary.htm#cones. When the heat causes the cones to open, seeds are released and fall to the ground (see animation below). In Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) lights fires in the Jack Pine Ecosystems to help new jack pine trees grow. This is because the Kirtland's Warbler will only build nests under the young jack pine trees. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Squirrels! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Fire DOES release seeds. Ever hear of jack pine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Squirrels don't eat pine cones in Michigan? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/FireandJackPine.htm New jack pine seedlings grow well after a hot fire. Fire causes the cone of an older jack pine tree to open up and release seeds. Cones that need heat, such as the heat from fire, in order to open are called serotinous cones http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/glossary.htm#cones. When the heat causes the cones to open, seeds are released and fall to the ground (see animation below). In Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) lights fires in the Jack Pine Ecosystems to help new jack pine trees grow. This is because the Kirtland's Warbler will only build nests under the young jack pine trees. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Squirrels! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Fire DOES release seeds. Ever hear of jack pine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If they do they will burn their mouths.. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Squirrels don't eat pine cones in Michigan? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/FireandJackPine.htm New jack pine seedlings grow well after a hot fire. Fire causes the cone of an older jack pine tree to open up and release seeds. Cones that need heat, such as the heat from fire, in order to open are called serotinous cones http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/glossary.htm#cones. When the heat causes the cones to open, seeds are released and fall to the ground (see animation below). In Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) lights fires in the Jack Pine Ecosystems to help new jack pine trees grow. This is because the Kirtland's Warbler will only build nests under the young jack pine trees. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Squirrels! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Fire DOES release seeds. Ever hear of jack pine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Theres another one I can't remember the name of that has some kind of coating on the seeds that only gets broken down when heated by fire... I agree that many of the forestry policies in practice now are dumb but I don't think fire is always a bad thing. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:22:06 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Message-ID: CAC35L=t_SYfuEdVdvFpVb5soux_C8=5a45nkbkxs9usxt0q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/FireandJackPine.htm New jack pine seedlings grow well after a hot fire. Fire causes the cone of an older jack pine tree to open up and release seeds. Cones that need heat, such as the heat from fire, in order to open are called serotinous cones http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/glossary.htm#cones. When the heat causes the cones to open, seeds are released and fall to the ground (see animation below). In Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) lights fires in the Jack Pine Ecosystems to help new jack pine trees grow. This is because the Kirtland's Warbler will only build nests under the young jack pine trees. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Squirrels! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Fire DOES release seeds. Ever hear of jack pine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Senator from OR, Wyden, is in an uproar that forest service does not reduce the underbrush enough to keep fires from becoming catastrophic, but they will splurge on airframes to toss water on things. And with the sequester, there are going to be fewer hired on as seasonal fire fighters. Instead the solution will be to pay twice as much for contractor teams to deal with the mess. clay On Jun 5, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Theres another one I can't remember the name of that has some kind of coating on the seeds that only gets broken down when heated by fire... I agree that many of the forestry policies in practice now are dumb but I don't think fire is always a bad thing. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:22:06 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Message-ID: CAC35L=t_SYfuEdVdvFpVb5soux_C8=5a45nkbkxs9usxt0q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/FireandJackPine.htm New jack pine seedlings grow well after a hot fire. Fire causes the cone of an older jack pine tree to open up and release seeds. Cones that need heat, such as the heat from fire, in order to open are called serotinous cones http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/glossary.htm#cones. When the heat causes the cones to open, seeds are released and fall to the ground (see animation below). In Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) lights fires in the Jack Pine Ecosystems to help new jack pine trees grow. This is because the Kirtland's Warbler will only build nests under the young jack pine trees. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Squirrels! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Fire DOES release seeds. Ever hear of jack pine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt wrote: ...coating on the seeds that only gets broken down when heated by fire... I agree that many of the forestry policies in practice now are dumb but I don't think fire is always a bad thing. When my son and I drove our '83 240D home from LA we took US20 all the way home from its terminus at Newport, OR to Elgin, IL. Through forest portions of OR they had signs explaining different practices about forest fires, i.e. letting fires burn. Let the low growth tinder burn and the forest keeps well and away from the top fires that spread and annihilate the forest. It was an interesting display. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I suspect a lot of that has to do with where here and there are. To get the ground to turn into glass here in New England would require tremendous heat as even when its very dry its still fairly wet. If you were already starting from fairly dry I suspect that you'd require less heat to dry things out before glassifying and your forests would burn much more readily and more easily create more heat. As you've got a lot less under brush I'd bet the winds whip up a lot better in a fire too. Huge regional variation across this great land of ours yet it seems like our political idiots feel like one management schema always makes the most sense. -Curt Hoya, Hoya, Hoya When I took Scout leadership training, one instructor was blathering on about how a Boy Scout troop out primitive camping had to carry along some portable fire pit because building a camp fire would turn the ground to glass and nothing would grow for 1000 years. I really wanted to keep saying Hoya from the back row repeatedly. I held my tongue, but it is discouraging to hear BSA espousing such BS. If that were true, our country would be nearly covered with burnout marks from campfires. I used to build huge bonfires with fenceposts in the fall for hayrides. In the spring the area would be covered with weeds. We burned there 10-20 times a year for decades. When we quit, the area was soon covered with grass. There may be sandy areas where you might be able to build a fire hot enough to melt sand into glass, but I've never seen it. In most of the country, the ground is too moist to ever get very hot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/FireandJackPine.htm New jack pine seedlings grow well after a hot fire. Fire causes the cone of an older jack pine tree to open up and release seeds. Cones that need heat, such as the heat from fire, in order to open are called serotinous cones http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/glossary.htm#cones. When the heat causes the cones to open, seeds are released and fall to the ground (see animation below). In Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) lights fires in the Jack Pine Ecosystems to help new jack pine trees grow. This is because the Kirtland's Warbler will only build nests under the young jack pine trees. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Oak trees thrive on natural fires. keeps competitors away. Also makes acorns grow. Longleaf pine stays small and grows a huge taproot for several years to survive fire. When the tap root is 8-10 feet deep, it shoots up over 6' in a season to reach high enough so as not to be dameged by most natural fires. Controlled burns are good for prairies, oak savannahs and many other forest types. They simulate natural fires. Burning off grass or pastureland in the fall is a good thing too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I really wanted to keep saying Hoya from the back row repeatedly. I held my tongue, but it is discouraging to hear BSA espousing such BS. Loren, where *do* you get this hoya stuff as a synonym for B.S.? I've never heard this before and I imagine the Georgetown alumni among us can't be pleased. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years Now Max that part just isn't true at all. The ground isn't sterilized and life comes back almost immediately. There are even plants (mostly trees I think) that REQUIRE fire before their seeds will open. Fire is natures forest refresher. -Curt Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:52:47 -0400 From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Message-ID: a310d15b-eee5-4b0c-9948-261a6c277...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 'Tis a real crime how the enviro-nazis have successfully halted management of our federal forests, so now millions of acres burn every year. The resulting forest fires not only destroy the trees so beloved by the tree-huggers, all the animals are either killed or displaced. The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years, and may take decades or centuries to become a forest again. Dumps tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but don't worry only the evil CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes global warming... -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: There are even plants (mostly trees I think) that REQUIRE fire before their seeds will open. Jack Pine is Michigan's example. Since Kirkland's Warbler pretty much exclusively nests in Jack Pine forests, the foolish attempts to prevent regular forest fires (so we get much larger but less frequent fires instead) are making it hard for the bird to remain viable as a species. http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10370_12145_12202-32591--,00.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years Now Max that part just isn't true at all. The ground isn't sterilized and life comes back almost immediately. There are even plants (mostly trees I think) that REQUIRE fire before their seeds will open. Fire is natures forest refresher. What you say, Curt, is true for small forest fires, those that don't get very hot. For very large, very hot fires, however, that is not true. The top surface of the soil is glazed like glass and repels water. All of the vegetative material, even that below the soil, is destroyed. We have had those kinds of fires near where we live here in New Mexico. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:08 PM Curt Raymond wrote ... Fire is natures forest refresher. --- In a prior life I had some responsibility for the test range at Eglin AFB in the FL panhandle. We accidently started a lot of fires there with various munitions tests. In most cases, the fires were simply allowed to burn themselves out. The professional range management group (AKA Jackson Guard) also used controlled burns to manage the remaining excess buildup of fuel, which could cause dangerous fires. There was an endangered species that had a great deal of habitat on that range: the red cockaded woodpecker. The interesting part was that the woodpecker nests were always located on the periphery of our cleared bombing areas. It turned out that this endangered species only nested in areas where excess ground cover had been burned off but the old trees survived. But FL is not NM (where I also have lived). Burned-off areas in FL re-grow almost immediately, especially if the large trees survived the fire (typical unless excess fuel was present). Not so in the arid areas of the Southwest US. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I suspect a lot of that has to do with where here and there are. To get the ground to turn into glass here in New England would require tremendous heat as even when its very dry its still fairly wet. If you were already starting from fairly dry I suspect that you'd require less heat to dry things out before glassifying and your forests would burn much more readily and more easily create more heat. As you've got a lot less under brush I'd bet the winds whip up a lot better in a fire too. Huge regional variation across this great land of ours yet it seems like our political idiots feel like one management schema always makes the most sense. -Curt Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 11:22:11 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Message-ID: 20130604112211.e7ec073d49af7c0c1f44b...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years Now Max that part just isn't true at all. The ground isn't sterilized and life comes back almost immediately. There are even plants (mostly trees I think) that REQUIRE fire before their seeds will open. Fire is natures forest refresher. What you say, Curt, is true for small forest fires, those that don't get very hot. For very large, very hot fires, however, that is not true. The top surface of the soil is glazed like glass and repels water. All of the vegetative material, even that below the soil, is destroyed. We have had those kinds of fires near where we live here in New Mexico. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I concur. Fire has its place. The issue Max points out is that by inhibiting the natural process of fires, in an attempt to save the pretty trees, the fuel load increases to the point that a forest that evolved to handle fires becomes one that is now killed by fires. The fuel load increases the intensity of the fire to the point that trees explode, instead of having their bark take the lesser fires it evolved with. SO a managed forest becomes an inferno instead of a place where fire culls the under story, allows for more light and the addition of useful carbon into the soil, while removing pests and providing fresh forage for residents.What the goobermint was trying to avoid becomes the reality. clay On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years Now Max that part just isn't true at all. The ground isn't sterilized and life comes back almost immediately. There are even plants (mostly trees I think) that REQUIRE fire before their seeds will open. Fire is natures forest refresher. -Curt Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:52:47 -0400 From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Message-ID: a310d15b-eee5-4b0c-9948-261a6c277...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 'Tis a real crime how the enviro-nazis have successfully halted management of our federal forests, so now millions of acres burn every year. The resulting forest fires not only destroy the trees so beloved by the tree-huggers, all the animals are either killed or displaced. The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years, and may take decades or centuries to become a forest again. Dumps tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but don't worry only the evil CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes global warming... -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I seem to recall a particular place in NM where the soil fit this description. They called it Trinity Site. The top surface of the soil is glazed like glass and repels water. All of the vegetative material, even that below the soil, is destroyed. We have had those kinds of fires near where we live here in New Mexico. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Once you realize that those who call themselves environmentalist are really frauds who use the law and the courts to extort money from individuals and corporations, your eyes can be opened to the lies they use. Pine cones that only open with fire to release seeds is one of those lies. Have you ever seen a squirrel eat a pine cone? Forest fires are natural and therefore good is another lie. Fire is terribly destructive. Controlled burns can be beneficial in that they can remove fuel to prevent a worse fire in the future, but they are simply one tool used to manage forests. Sorry for ranting, I simply get very incensed about such destructive fraud, which I think is another manifestation of too big government eroding more of our liberty. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I suspect a lot of that has to do with where here and there are. To get the ground to turn into glass here in New England would require tremendous heat as even when its very dry its still fairly wet. If you were already starting from fairly dry I suspect that you'd require less heat to dry things out before glassifying and your forests would burn much more readily and more easily create more heat. As you've got a lot less under brush I'd bet the winds whip up a lot better in a fire too. Huge regional variation across this great land of ours yet it seems like our political idiots feel like one management schema always makes the most sense. -Curt Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 11:22:11 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Message-ID: 20130604112211.e7ec073d49af7c0c1f44b...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years Now Max that part just isn't true at all. The ground isn't sterilized and life comes back almost immediately. There are even plants (mostly trees I think) that REQUIRE fire before their seeds will open. Fire is natures forest refresher. What you say, Curt, is true for small forest fires, those that don't get very hot. For very large, very hot fires, however, that is not true. The top surface of the soil is glazed like glass and repels water. All of the vegetative material, even that below the soil, is destroyed. We have had those kinds of fires near where we live here in New Mexico. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Fire DOES release seeds. Ever hear of jack pine? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Once you realize that those who call themselves environmentalist are really frauds who use the law and the courts to extort money from individuals and corporations, your eyes can be opened to the lies they use. Pine cones that only open with fire to release seeds is one of those lies. Have you ever seen a squirrel eat a pine cone? Forest fires are natural and therefore good is another lie. Fire is terribly destructive. Controlled burns can be beneficial in that they can remove fuel to prevent a worse fire in the future, but they are simply one tool used to manage forests. Sorry for ranting, I simply get very incensed about such destructive fraud, which I think is another manifestation of too big government eroding more of our liberty. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I suspect a lot of that has to do with where here and there are. To get the ground to turn into glass here in New England would require tremendous heat as even when its very dry its still fairly wet. If you were already starting from fairly dry I suspect that you'd require less heat to dry things out before glassifying and your forests would burn much more readily and more easily create more heat. As you've got a lot less under brush I'd bet the winds whip up a lot better in a fire too. Huge regional variation across this great land of ours yet it seems like our political idiots feel like one management schema always makes the most sense. -Curt Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 11:22:11 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] From wet to dry ... Message-ID: 20130604112211.e7ec073d49af7c0c1f44b...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years Now Max that part just isn't true at all. The ground isn't sterilized and life comes back almost immediately. There are even plants (mostly trees I think) that REQUIRE fire before their seeds will open. Fire is natures forest refresher. What you say, Curt, is true for small forest fires, those that don't get very hot. For very large, very hot fires, however, that is not true. The top surface of the soil is glazed like glass and repels water. All of the vegetative material, even that below the soil, is destroyed. We have had those kinds of fires near where we live here in New Mexico. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Squirrels! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Fire DOES release seeds. Ever hear of jack pine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Tis a real crime how the enviro-nazis have successfully halted management of our federal forests, so now millions of acres burn every year. The resulting forest fires not only destroy the trees so beloved by the tree-huggers, all the animals are either killed or displaced. The sterilized ground left behind won't support much life at all for years, and may take decades or centuries to become a forest again. Dumps tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but don't worry only the evil CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes global warming... -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Fire season has started. There is a fire east of us, north of Santa Fe, and another to the west of us in the Jemez mountains. Smoke in the sky today. The (closer) one to the west of us is listed at http://nmfireinfo.com/2013/05/31/crews-battle-thompson-fire-north-of-jemez-springs/ The update says 6/1/2013 – 10:45pm, but it was actually written at 10:45pm on 31 May. http://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/predictive/intelligence/admin/google_maps/ross_incidents/ross_incidents.htm shows a Google Map of incidents in the southwest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dumps tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but don't worry only the evil CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes global warming... You're as cynical as I am. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Back in the '70s or '80s, I think it was, we were told that something we were doing would cause global cooling. Recently we're told that CO2 is causing global warming. Seems like if we combined the global cooling stuff with global warming CO2 we could strike a balance and everyone would be happy. Gerry On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dumps tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but don't worry only the evil CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes global warming... You're as cynical as I am. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I also listen to too much talk radio! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dumps tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but don't worry only the evil CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes global warming... You're as cynical as I am. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:51:58 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Back in the '70s or '80s, I think it was, we were told that something we were doing would cause global cooling. Recently we're told that CO2 is causing global warming. Seems like if we combined the global cooling stuff with global warming CO2 we could strike a balance and everyone would be happy. Back in the '70s, the crisis du jour to take control of everything was global cooling (I have a copy of the April 28, 1975 article). Now it's global warming. It's still bunk. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Back in the '70s or '80s, I think it was, we were told that something we were doing would cause global cooling. Recently we're told that CO2 is causing global warming. Seems like if we combined the global cooling stuff with global warming CO2 we could strike a balance and everyone would be happy. Gerry On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dumps tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, but don't worry only the evil CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes global warming... You're as cynical as I am. Rick The difference is this: In the 68-73 period when the coming ice age was the fear, there was some actual science, but projected too far out. In that time period, nobody figured out how to monetize the scare. A decade or so later when the cooling trend naturally moderated, Albore and friends figured out a way to monetize it, but also how to use it to grow a tyrannical gummit, and subjugate all the sheeple. After that trend also naturally mitigated, the albore crowd had to change their battle cry to climate change, but the purpose stayed the same. Monetize and subjugate. There is not enough recorded history to establish an SPC chart to show if the process is out of control or in control. As Deming said, (paraphrased) be careful not to mistake normal variation for special cause variation. The albore crowd seems to think this admonition does not apply to them. It does. It is like the laws of Physics. They apply universally. So does normal variation vs special cause variation. Beware of scams and scamsters. The albore crowd are scammers and worse. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Craig, where are you in NM? Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Fire season has started. There is a fire east of us, north of Santa Fe, and another to the west of us in the Jemez mountains. Smoke in the sky today. The (closer) one to the west of us is listed at http://nmfireinfo.com/2013/05/31/crews-battle-thompson-fire-north-of-jemez-springs/ The update says 6/1/2013 – 10:45pm, but it was actually written at 10:45pm on 31 May. http://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/predictive/intelligence/admin/google_maps/ross_incidents/ross_incidents.htm shows a Google Map of incidents in the southwest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He lives on The Hill - Los Alamos. At night you can see the glow from Santa Fe. grin Dan On Jun 2, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Darren Marshall wrote: Craig, where are you in NM? Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Fire season has started. There is a fire east of us, north of Santa Fe, and another to the west of us in the Jemez mountains. Smoke in the sky today. The (closer) one to the west of us is listed at http://nmfireinfo.com/2013/05/31/crews-battle-thompson-fire-north-of-jemez-springs/ The update says 6/1/2013 – 10:45pm, but it was actually written at 10:45pm on 31 May. http://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/predictive/intelligence/admin/google_maps/ross_incidents/ross_incidents.htm shows a Google Map of incidents in the southwest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:28:59 -0500 Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Craig, where are you in NM? Los Alamos Craig On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Fire season has started. There is a fire east of us, north of Santa Fe, and another to the west of us in the Jemez mountains. Smoke in the sky today. The (closer) one to the west of us is listed at http://nmfireinfo.com/2013/05/31/crews-battle-thompson-fire-north-of-jemez-springs/ The update says 6/1/2013 – 10:45pm, but it was actually written at 10:45pm on 31 May. http://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/predictive/intelligence/admin/google_maps/ross_incidents/ross_incidents.htm shows a Google Map of incidents in the southwest. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Awesome, Craig. Used to live in NM as a kid; Rio Rancho and Corrales, until I was about 12, moved from Fairbanks, AK when my dad was transferred to Kirkland AFB. Love the Balloon Fiesta, parents were a part of a chase crew we'd drive all over the state in a 50s Chevy pickup, to refuel them on their hops. Sorry to embark on a trip of nostalgia, while you're skirting danger. Just haven't been back in ages... Stay safe Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:28:59 -0500 Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Craig, where are you in NM? Los Alamos Craig On Jun 1, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Fire season has started. There is a fire east of us, north of Santa Fe, and another to the west of us in the Jemez mountains. Smoke in the sky today. The (closer) one to the west of us is listed at http://nmfireinfo.com/2013/05/31/crews-battle-thompson-fire-north-of-jemez-springs/ The update says 6/1/2013 – 10:45pm, but it was actually written at 10:45pm on 31 May. http://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/predictive/intelligence/admin/google_maps/ross_incidents/ross_incidents.htm shows a Google Map of incidents in the southwest. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:53:25 -0500 Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome, Craig. Used to live in NM as a kid; Rio Rancho and Corrales, until I was about 12, moved from Fairbanks, AK when my dad was transferred to Kirkland AFB. Love the Balloon Fiesta, parents were a part of a chase crew we'd drive all over the state in a 50s Chevy pickup, to refuel them on their hops. Sorry to embark on a trip of nostalgia, while you're skirting danger. Just haven't been back in ages... No problem. It was much closer in 2011 with the Las Conchas fire. Stay safe Thanks. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Darren wrote: Used to live in NM as a kid; Rio Rancho and Corrales... My son lives in ABQ - he is chief pilot (lear35) there. We should drive either your '78 or my '84 240D out there for a visit. He likes Cafe Bella - they pull shots with Fat Boy Roastery coffee. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Once I get it cruisin that sounds like a great idea. Where are you loc? Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jun 2, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Darren wrote: Used to live in NM as a kid; Rio Rancho and Corrales... My son lives in ABQ - he is chief pilot (lear35) there. We should drive either your '78 or my '84 240D out there for a visit. He likes Cafe Bella - they pull shots with Fat Boy Roastery coffee. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Darren wrote: Once I get it cruisin that sounds like a great idea. Where are you loc? Elgin. Bow Truss needs a storefront out here. Ain't nuthin' out here to talk about. Bow Truss have good review from a year ago at home-barista, but nothing lately. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Fire season has started. There is a fire east of us, north of Santa Fe, and another to the west of us in the Jemez mountains. Smoke in the sky today. The (closer) one to the west of us is listed at http://nmfireinfo.com/2013/05/31/crews-battle-thompson-fire-north-of-jemez-springs/ The update says 6/1/2013 – 10:45pm, but it was actually written at 10:45pm on 31 May. http://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/predictive/intelligence/admin/google_maps/ross_incidents/ross_incidents.htm shows a Google Map of incidents in the southwest. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
