Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
No, unfortunately I have no idea. I sort of assumed (a dangerous thing I guess) that there was some sort of standard spacing. Easy enough to change the whole axle if need be. Just a matter of $$$. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) R A Bennell wrote: There are flanges for the brake backing plates. I was almost right. 7 drums are for 2,000lb axles. You'll never get 10 inside a 12 wheel. Do you know what brand of axles you have? Sometimes it's fun to find brakes which match the bolt pattern on the axle flanges. A friend bought an old trailer, and brakes of the same brand as the axles didn't fit, because that manufacturer changed the bolt pattern since the trailer was built. We had to cut off the flanges and weld new ones on in order to put new brakes on the thing (the P.O. removed all the internal brake parts so we needed new brakes). Located the flanges by assembling the brakes, adjusted tight, and putting the hub on the axle to sort of center the brake flanges. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yea, I will. I think some place called Dobbs might have been open, but by that time I had already dropped the wheel off at walmart. Tom Savage wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: only place that was open sunday morning was walmart. They were my last choice, trust me. No they weren't. Call next time... Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081216/e6eba5df/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anyone had experience with Hercules automobile tires? Their prices at tire warehouses seem to be okay. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl#station_search Thanks, Gerry From: Loren Faeth The worst tires are generally the mobile home tires. They are made to go up to 2000 miles when new. Period. trailers made from mobile home axles generally have tire troubles. Most car hauling trailers I have seen have 15 wheels. If you put 15 truck tires on, you get capacity and longevity. There were pickups in the 50s that had 16 rims. Put 185 or 195 width truck tires on them and your trailer should run fine. One thing you have to be careful of with truck tires is the record of the size/mfgr combination if you use a somewhat off-mainstream tires. We used to run a lot of trucks with 7.50-17.5 tires. Most tires in this size were no good. However, we got a truck after the floods of 73 that had been underwater. It had well worn Hercules 7.50 17.5s on it. We ran that truck for over 20 years on those same tires. They were great. Badyears, we always had at least one blowout per year. We could count on tire trouble with them. Sometimes, one would blow and take out the other on the duals. We generally carried a jack, lugwrenches and a spare on trips. Whenever I drove the truck with the Hercules tires, I never bothered with the spare, and never needed one. At 11:22 PM 12/14/2008, you wrote: Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. Thats probably plenty for many small to medium cars, but wonder if the 140 was too much weight Fmiser wrote: Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Most of my experience with trailer tires is 22 inch, so that won't help much. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. And that's why the answer is not clear. If you need the weight rating, use truck or trailer tires - not car tires. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. Maybe that's because only folks who actually haul weight will spend money with the hi-load tires and because the tires are being worked hard they fail? The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? The big enemy of tires is heat. The greatest source of heat is tire flex. Tire flex decreases as air pressure increases. As I understand, truck and trailer tire ratings have a greater overload margine than passenger car tires. So, how much weight is on the tire? Are car tires an option? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1849 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 9:01 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:33:03 -0600 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Most car hauling trailers I have seen have 15 wheels. If you put 15 truck tires on, you get capacity and longevity. There were pickups in the 50s that had 16 rims. Put 185 or 195 width truck tires on them and your trailer should run fine. The '64 Chevy pickup we had in Colorado in the '80s ran 7.50-16 (on split rims). That was apparently a standard size. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:35:18 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Our car hauler weighs around 1800#. The typical MB I'd put on it is something like 3400-3800#, IIRC. My pickup truck is 7000#. The trailer tires are holding the car, plus another 2000# of load. Of course, you could always stop by a truck scale and weigh the trailer with the 140 on it. You could even measure each axle ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
The worst tires are generally the mobile home tires. They are made to go up to 2000 miles when new. Period. trailers made from mobile home axles generally have tire troubles. Most car hauling trailers I have seen have 15 wheels. If you put 15 truck tires on, you get capacity and longevity. There were pickups in the 50s that had 16 rims. Put 185 or 195 width truck tires on them and your trailer should run fine. One thing you have to be careful of with truck tires is the record of the size/mfgr combination if you use a somewhat off-mainstream tires. We used to run a lot of trucks with 7.50-17.5 tires. Most tires in this size were no good. However, we got a truck after the floods of 73 that had been underwater. It had well worn Hercules 7.50 17.5s on it. We ran that truck for over 20 years on those same tires. They were great. Badyears, we always had at least one blowout per year. We could count on tire trouble with them. Sometimes, one would blow and take out the other on the duals. We generally carried a jack, lugwrenches and a spare on trips. Whenever I drove the truck with the Hercules tires, I never bothered with the spare, and never needed one. At 11:22 PM 12/14/2008, you wrote: Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. Thats probably plenty for many small to medium cars, but wonder if the 140 was too much weight Fmiser wrote: Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Most of my experience with trailer tires is 22 inch, so that won't help much. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. And that's why the answer is not clear. If you need the weight rating, use truck or trailer tires - not car tires. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. Maybe that's because only folks who actually haul weight will spend money with the hi-load tires and because the tires are being worked hard they fail? The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? The big enemy of tires is heat. The greatest source of heat is tire flex. Tire flex decreases as air pressure increases. As I understand, truck and trailer tire ratings have a greater overload margine than passenger car tires. So, how much weight is on the tire? Are car tires an option? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tom Hargrave wrote: It turns out that the tires he was running weren't up to the load even though the tong weight + 1/4 of the Suburban weight were well under what was marked on the tire sidewalls. He went up one load rating and the problems went away. If he ran the pressure where the tire manufacture stated for maximum weight rating, and if the tires weren't too old, I'd be surprised if he had problems. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have thought about doing that at the truck stops that have scales. Do you have to pay for that? Do you just drive up on the scale or what? Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:35:18 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Our car hauler weighs around 1800#. The typical MB I'd put on it is something like 3400-3800#, IIRC. My pickup truck is 7000#. The trailer tires are holding the car, plus another 2000# of load. Of course, you could always stop by a truck scale and weigh the trailer with the 140 on it. You could even measure each axle ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1849 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 9:01 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yea Tom Hargrave wrote: WalMart is slow on purpose. The longer they take the more likely you will buy something in the store. You did buy something, right? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:19:00 -0500 Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Anyone had experience with Hercules automobile tires? Their prices at tire warehouses seem to be okay. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl#station_search That URL takes me to http://www.reifendirekt.de/, Tires Direct Germany Is this what you intended, Gerry? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We had a set of Hercules truck tires on our 4Runner. They were fine. No problems. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:19:00 -0500 Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Anyone had experience with Hercules automobile tires? Their prices at tire warehouses seem to be okay. http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl#station_search That URL takes me to http://www.reifendirekt.de/, Tires Direct Germany Is this what you intended, Gerry? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It seems than at Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:25:42 -0700, Craig wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:33:03 -0600 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Most car hauling trailers I have seen have 15 wheels. If you put 15 truck tires on, you get capacity and longevity. There were pickups in the 50s that had 16 rims. Put 185 or 195 width truck tires on them and your trailer should run fine. The '64 Chevy pickup we had in Colorado in the '80s ran 7.50-16 (on split rims). That was apparently a standard size. When I got my 3/4 ton '67, it had 15 inch split-rim wheels. Old split rims scare me -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It seems than at Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:42:07 -0600, Kaleb wrote: I have thought about doing that at the truck stops that have scales. Do you have to pay for that? Do you just drive up on the scale or what? Truckstop scales are typically $5-$10 with re-weighs either free or $1. Re-weigh is if the distribution on the axles wasn't to your satisfaction and so a couple minutes after your first weigh you use the scale again. The scalemaster usually monitors a CB channel, or there is an intercom at the scale. They will ask you for company name and truck number so when you go inside and ask for the printout you can be sure you got your printout. CAT and Interstate scales are a national chain with certified maintenance and calibration. The MFA farm supply stores often have truck scales. The one near me charges $2 for pickup and trailer. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
Long story made short, you want to use trailer tires on a trailer and not passenger car tires. The reason for this is that passenger car (and light truck for that matter) have more flexible sidewalls to allow them to maintain traction during all sorts of maneuvers - pulling, stopping, turning, swerving, etc. Trailer tires only need traction when the trailer brakes are applied, and as such have stiffer sidewalls to help combat sway. This is also useful since most trailer suspension is unsophisticated compared to cars and trucks, so the tires take way more punishment. You really want to have trailer tires on your trailer, especially if you're loading it up to its maximum rating, as you likely did with that W140 on it. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:21:46PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well here is the deal, since I have had my trailer, I have been all over the country with it with no spare at all. Well, the original tires started getting worn so i started throwing a wheel in the back for a spare. Well, one time I had a tire go flat and I needed the spare. Would not fit. Crap, should have checked. Anyway, got another tire mounted and continued on. A few weeks ago, I buy a new rim to use as a spare off a seller on ebay. First one is wrong size. 2nd one (arrived friday before this trip) wrong size, so lets see what the 3rd one is. I would have had the spare mounted to it had it been the correct size. On another subject, a little while ago I replaced all the trailer tires with some good used michelin car tires I had. The one that started to blow out was a little dry rotted I think but not sure if that had anything to do with it (belt seperation I guess?). Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. For instance, on tirerack.com, the only trailer tires I see are goodyear, with a load rating of 1820lb or so. With car tires, I find some humho tires with rating of sometihng like 1598 or so. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But don't forget the four tires on the car, so the total load available will no doubt go up as they support the car ... ;=) Ashamed to put my name on that one -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:35:18 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Our car hauler weighs around 1800#. The typical MB I'd put on it is something like 3400-3800#, IIRC. My pickup truck is 7000#. The trailer tires are holding the car, plus another 2000# of load. Of course, you could always stop by a truck scale and weigh the trailer with the 140 on it. You could even measure each axle ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of towing max weight. This is the first real heavy load I have pulled with the dmax since I installed the diablo tuner on it and installed the 65hp economy tune. Before when going down the interstate at 70-75, if I started up a decent grade, it would downshift (with cruise on). With the tuner, it NEVER had to downshift at all during the whole trip, even with that heavy car on the back. In fact, I was able to accelerate from 45mph to 75mph in 5th gear without it ever having to come out of 5th. Kevin wrote: Long story made short, you want to use trailer tires on a trailer and not passenger car tires. The reason for this is that passenger car (and light truck for that matter) have more flexible sidewalls to allow them to maintain traction during all sorts of maneuvers - pulling, stopping, turning, swerving, etc. Trailer tires only need traction when the trailer brakes are applied, and as such have stiffer sidewalls to help combat sway. This is also useful since most trailer suspension is unsophisticated compared to cars and trucks, so the tires take way more punishment. You really want to have trailer tires on your trailer, especially if you're loading it up to its maximum rating, as you likely did with that W140 on it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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PS, all good but the damn things do not last very long. Kevin wrote: Long story made short, you want to use trailer tires on a trailer and not passenger car tires. The reason for this is that passenger car (and light truck for that matter) have more flexible sidewalls to allow them to maintain traction during all sorts of maneuvers - pulling, stopping, turning, swerving, etc. Trailer tires only need traction when the trailer brakes are applied, and as such have stiffer sidewalls to help combat sway. This is also useful since most trailer suspension is unsophisticated compared to cars and trucks, so the tires take way more punishment. You really want to have trailer tires on your trailer, especially if you're loading it up to its maximum rating, as you likely did with that W140 on it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Make sure to keep an eye on your pyrometer when you're doing that so that your PISTONS don't MELT. Some of those chips can get things pretty hot without a load. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:26:13PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of towing max weight. This is the first real heavy load I have pulled with the dmax since I installed the diablo tuner on it and installed the 65hp economy tune. Before when going down the interstate at 70-75, if I started up a decent grade, it would downshift (with cruise on). With the tuner, it NEVER had to downshift at all during the whole trip, even with that heavy car on the back. In fact, I was able to accelerate from 45mph to 75mph in 5th gear without it ever having to come out of 5th. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It is absolutely imperative that you keep them inflated properly. I've also noticed that balancing the tires makes them last a LOT longer - when I bought my trailer, the original tires weren't balanced and wore wonky. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:27:05PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: PS, all good but the damn things do not last very long. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I dont have any of that stuff installed. Im just running the basic economy tune. I would need that if I ran the performance or extreme tunes, but the low settings does not matter too much. Kevin wrote: Make sure to keep an eye on your pyrometer when you're doing that so that your PISTONS don't MELT. Some of those chips can get things pretty hot without a load. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:26:13PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of towing max weight. This is the first real heavy load I have pulled with the dmax since I installed the diablo tuner on it and installed the 65hp economy tune. Before when going down the interstate at 70-75, if I started up a decent grade, it would downshift (with cruise on). With the tuner, it NEVER had to downshift at all during the whole trip, even with that heavy car on the back. In fact, I was able to accelerate from 45mph to 75mph in 5th gear without it ever having to come out of 5th. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I never have balanced trailer tires, guess it wouldnt hurt though. Kevin wrote: It is absolutely imperative that you keep them inflated properly. I've also noticed that balancing the tires makes them last a LOT longer - when I bought my trailer, the original tires weren't balanced and wore wonky. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:27:05PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: PS, all good but the damn things do not last very long. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd say keep the lug nuts tight too. I acquired a boat trailer in the fall with dual axles. Has small wheels and tires - 12 inch by 4.80 if my memory is reasonably accurate. I suppose the idea is to keep the boat low to the ground so that it is easier to launch and retrieve. In any event, I will have to buy new wheels as the lug nut holes on some seem to have worn somewhat. I can only assume they moved around because they were not tight enough. Needed new tires anyway so the wheels won't add too much to the cost. Trailer came to me as a gift so I am not complaining too loudly. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) It is absolutely imperative that you keep them inflated properly. I've also noticed that balancing the tires makes them last a LOT longer - when I bought my trailer, the original tires weren't balanced and wore wonky. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:27:05PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: PS, all good but the damn things do not last very long. _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. That's not much for trailer tires, especially when you're hauling a 6000lb car on a 1500lb trailer with 1000lb on the tongue. 185/80r13 Load range C are 1480 each at 50psi, aren't your tires 15 x something? BTW, you ARE running your trailer tires at sidewall maximum inflation when loaded, right? 205/75R15 load range C trailer tires are 1820lb, which are a decent match for 3500lb axles. I think I'd rather have Kelley than Marathons though. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GoodyeartireModel=Marathon+Radialpartnum=075R5MAR6 Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When I had the Loadstar tires on there I ran it at max 55psi. These auto tires are max 35psi, which is where I am running them. It does have 205/75R15 on it right now. I notice by going with a larger size (215, 225, 235 etc) the load rating goes up. So, if I ran larger size in lt truck type tires with the higher load rating, would that still not be OK and I should stick with trailer rated tires? Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. That's not much for trailer tires, especially when you're hauling a 6000lb car on a 1500lb trailer with 1000lb on the tongue. 185/80r13 Load range C are 1480 each at 50psi, aren't your tires 15 x something? BTW, you ARE running your trailer tires at sidewall maximum inflation when loaded, right? 205/75R15 load range C trailer tires are 1820lb, which are a decent match for 3500lb axles. I think I'd rather have Kelley than Marathons though. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GoodyeartireModel=Marathon+Radialpartnum=075R5MAR6 Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Better hope the loose lug nuts havn't allowed the wheels (at the holes) to cut into the lugs (the bolts) at their bases, weakening them. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) I'd say keep the lug nuts tight too. I acquired a boat trailer in the fall with dual axles. Has small wheels and tires - 12 inch by 4.80 if my memory is reasonably accurate. I suppose the idea is to keep the boat low to the ground so that it is easier to launch and retrieve. In any event, I will have to buy new wheels as the lug nut holes on some seem to have worn somewhat. I can only assume they moved around because they were not tight enough. Needed new tires anyway so the wheels won't add too much to the cost. Trailer came to me as a gift so I am not complaining too loudly. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) It is absolutely imperative that you keep them inflated properly. I've also noticed that balancing the tires makes them last a LOT longer - when I bought my trailer, the original tires weren't balanced and wore wonky. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:27:05PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: PS, all good but the damn things do not last very long. _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When I had the Loadstar tires on there I ran it at max 55psi. These auto tires are max 35psi, which is where I am running them. It does have 205/75R15 on it right now. I notice by going with a larger size (215, 225, 235 etc) the load rating goes up. So, if I ran larger size in lt truck type tires with the higher load rating, would that still not be OK and I should stick with trailer rated tires? What little shopping I did at Tirerack.com today yielded light truck tires that were rated 35psi (not really truck tires IMO) and priced higher than the trailer tires. I suspect the trailer tires will work best, and cost less or at least not more than the truck tires. With the 12k horse trailers, they'd use the same 90psi 16.5 tires as the truck used. (often the truck tires ended up on a trailer when they got down to 1/4 tread) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, the hubs may well get changed too. At least 2 of them. The other 2 could just use new lugs if that proves to be the case. It also has no brakes and with a 22 foot fiberglass inboard outboard on top of it, I think it should have some brakes. If I do that, it will have to have new hubs with drums. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) 'Better hope the loose lug nuts havn't allowed the wheels (at the holes) to cut into the lugs (the bolts) at their bases, weakening them. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) I'd say keep the lug nuts tight too. I acquired a boat trailer in the fall with dual axles. Has small wheels and tires - 12 inch by 4.80 if my memory is reasonably accurate. I suppose the idea is to keep the boat low to the ground so that it is easier to launch and retrieve. In any event, I will have to buy new wheels as the lug nut holes on some seem to have worn somewhat. I can only assume they moved around because they were not tight enough. Needed new tires anyway so the wheels won't add too much to the cost. Trailer came to me as a gift so I am not complaining too loudly. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) It is absolutely imperative that you keep them inflated properly. I've also noticed that balancing the tires makes them last a LOT longer - when I bought my trailer, the original tires weren't balanced and wore wonky. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:27:05PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: PS, all good but the damn things do not last very long. _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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R A Bennell wrote: I think it should have some brakes. If I do that, it will have to have new hubs with drums. Do the axles already have brake mounting flanges on the spindles, or will you need to have the axles modified or replaced too? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There are flanges for the brake backing plates. My only concern is the size as it has 12 inch wheels. I may be able to go up a size but would need to do some measuring first. Either that or I need to check and make sure the drums will fit inside the wheels. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) R A Bennell wrote: I think it should have some brakes. If I do that, it will have to have new hubs with drums. Do the axles already have brake mounting flanges on the spindles, or will you need to have the axles modified or replaced too? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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R A Bennell wrote: There are flanges for the brake backing plates. My only concern is the size as it has 12 inch wheels. I may be able to go up a size but would need to do some measuring first. Either that or I need to check and make sure the drums will fit inside the wheels. Sounds like 7 drums to me. I think those are intended for something like 1500lb per axle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My C140 weighs just over 5500 lbs. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. Thats probably plenty for many small to medium cars, but wonder if the 140 was too much weight Fmiser wrote: Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Most of my experience with trailer tires is 22 inch, so that won't help much. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. And that's why the answer is not clear. If you need the weight rating, use truck or trailer tires - not car tires. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. Maybe that's because only folks who actually haul weight will spend money with the hi-load tires and because the tires are being worked hard they fail? The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? The big enemy of tires is heat. The greatest source of heat is tire flex. Tire flex decreases as air pressure increases. As I understand, truck and trailer tire ratings have a greater overload margine than passenger car tires. So, how much weight is on the tire? Are car tires an option? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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R A Bennell wrote: There are flanges for the brake backing plates. I was almost right. 7 drums are for 2,000lb axles. You'll never get 10 inside a 12 wheel. Do you know what brand of axles you have? Sometimes it's fun to find brakes which match the bolt pattern on the axle flanges. A friend bought an old trailer, and brakes of the same brand as the axles didn't fit, because that manufacturer changed the bolt pattern since the trailer was built. We had to cut off the flanges and weld new ones on in order to put new brakes on the thing (the P.O. removed all the internal brake parts so we needed new brakes). Located the flanges by assembling the brakes, adjusted tight, and putting the hub on the axle to sort of center the brake flanges. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:09:12 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: The '64 Chevy pickup we had in Colorado in the '80s ran 7.50-16 (on split rims). That was apparently a standard size. When I got my 3/4 ton '67, it had 15 inch split-rim wheels. Old split rims scare me Me, too. That's why I had the local service station do it; they had the proper cage to contain an errant ring. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, but the 7.50 - 16 was on the 3/4 ton trucks with 8 bolt wheels. I am guessing Kaleb's trailer has 5 or 6 hole rims. (ford or chevy) The late 40s and early 50s pickups came out on 6.00 - 16s and had 5 or 6 hole rims that would likely fit on his trailer. I bought the remains of an old ford pickup to get the 16 rims I used on my bronco with 7.50-16 radial truck tires. they were super. A real Hillary to get on or off the rims though. At 09:25 AM 12/15/2008, you wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:33:03 -0600 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Most car hauling trailers I have seen have 15 wheels. If you put 15 truck tires on, you get capacity and longevity. There were pickups in the 50s that had 16 rims. Put 185 or 195 width truck tires on them and your trailer should run fine. The '64 Chevy pickup we had in Colorado in the '80s ran 7.50-16 (on split rims). That was apparently a standard size. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Missed you this weekend. I had a hell of a time with this tire deal, it really screwed up my plans. I cant remember where you live but we were staying at the druiry inn in fenton right across from the DC plant. TE wrote: My C140 weighs just over 5500 lbs. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. Thats probably plenty for many small to medium cars, but wonder if the 140 was too much weight Fmiser wrote: Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Most of my experience with trailer tires is 22 inch, so that won't help much. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. And that's why the answer is not clear. If you need the weight rating, use truck or trailer tires - not car tires. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. Maybe that's because only folks who actually haul weight will spend money with the hi-load tires and because the tires are being worked hard they fail? The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? The big enemy of tires is heat. The greatest source of heat is tire flex. Tire flex decreases as air pressure increases. As I understand, truck and trailer tire ratings have a greater overload margine than passenger car tires. So, how much weight is on the tire? Are car tires an option? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm in Charlotte, NC, not sure if you were nearby. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) Missed you this weekend. I had a hell of a time with this tire deal, it really screwed up my plans. I cant remember where you live but we were staying at the druiry inn in fenton right across from the DC plant. TE wrote: My C140 weighs just over 5500 lbs. http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I got you mixed up with somebody else, nevermind. TE wrote: I'm in Charlotte, NC, not sure if you were nearby. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) Missed you this weekend. I had a hell of a time with this tire deal, it really screwed up my plans. I cant remember where you live but we were staying at the druiry inn in fenton right across from the DC plant. TE wrote: My C140 weighs just over 5500 lbs. http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
It seems than at Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:23:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: Missed you this weekend. I had a hell of a time with this tire deal, it really screwed up my plans. I cant remember where you live but we were staying at the druiry inn in fenton right across from the DC plant. I know the spot. Drive by often. But my house is about 100 miles from there or I would have brought you a mounted tire or my bead-breaker and tire spoons. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
Where do you live? yes I know the spot well too, Im up that way all the time. Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:23:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: Missed you this weekend. I had a hell of a time with this tire deal, it really screwed up my plans. I cant remember where you live but we were staying at the druiry inn in fenton right across from the DC plant. I know the spot. Drive by often. But my house is about 100 miles from there or I would have brought you a mounted tire or my bead-breaker and tire spoons. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1850 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 5:04 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: only place that was open sunday morning was walmart. They were my last choice, trust me. No they weren't. Call next time... Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell
Well as we left off I was going to go back to walmart first thing this morning to get that tire mounted for the trailer. So I show up first thing. Wait for 20 minutes for somebody to show up to help everyone in line. They say sure they will take care of it, will be 2 hours though. Crap. Ended up being nearly 4 hours before they got to it. All the had ahead of me was 2 cars needing tires, and one of those was only getting 2 tires. Geez, they are slow. So when they get to it, the start to proceed to tell me how they cant do it because its a used tire etc. I tell them I have been there nearly 4 hours to be told this, and its just going on a trailer. Finally they go ahead and do it. Takes them less than 5 minutes of course to mount the stupid thing. Why the hell they could not have just had somebody mount it real quick in the morning I dont know. Anyway, that put me way behind so I got to run into the ice storm on the way back. Actually when I hit the rain it was not quite cold enough to freeze and it stopped long enough for me to get home anyway. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell
I predict that K'leb will have two MOUNTED spares in the truck the next time he does an interstate car haul. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Naw, he will just sell the trailer now that the buying freeze is on. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I predict that K'leb will have two MOUNTED spares in the truck the next time he does an interstate car haul. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell
Most tire shops will mount a tire like that for free or real cheap,a nd pretty quick. Discount tire does that. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well as we left off I was going to go back to walmart first thing this morning to get that tire mounted for the trailer. So I show up first thing. Wait for 20 minutes for somebody to show up to help everyone in line. They say sure they will take care of it, will be 2 hours though. Crap. Ended up being nearly 4 hours before they got to it. All the had ahead of me was 2 cars needing tires, and one of those was only getting 2 tires. Geez, they are slow. So when they get to it, the start to proceed to tell me how they cant do it because its a used tire etc. I tell them I have been there nearly 4 hours to be told this, and its just going on a trailer. Finally they go ahead and do it. Takes them less than 5 minutes of course to mount the stupid thing. Why the hell they could not have just had somebody mount it real quick in the morning I dont know. Anyway, that put me way behind so I got to run into the ice storm on the way back. Actually when I hit the rain it was not quite cold enough to freeze and it stopped long enough for me to get home anyway. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
Well here is the deal, since I have had my trailer, I have been all over the country with it with no spare at all. Well, the original tires started getting worn so i started throwing a wheel in the back for a spare. Well, one time I had a tire go flat and I needed the spare. Would not fit. Crap, should have checked. Anyway, got another tire mounted and continued on. A few weeks ago, I buy a new rim to use as a spare off a seller on ebay. First one is wrong size. 2nd one (arrived friday before this trip) wrong size, so lets see what the 3rd one is. I would have had the spare mounted to it had it been the correct size. On another subject, a little while ago I replaced all the trailer tires with some good used michelin car tires I had. The one that started to blow out was a little dry rotted I think but not sure if that had anything to do with it (belt seperation I guess?). Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. For instance, on tirerack.com, the only trailer tires I see are goodyear, with a load rating of 1820lb or so. With car tires, I find some humho tires with rating of sometihng like 1598 or so. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? Mitch Haley wrote: I predict that K'leb will have two MOUNTED spares in the truck the next time he does an interstate car haul. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell
only place that was open sunday morning was walmart. They were my last choice, trust me. Rich Thomas wrote: Most tire shops will mount a tire like that for free or real cheap,a nd pretty quick. Discount tire does that. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well as we left off I was going to go back to walmart first thing this morning to get that tire mounted for the trailer. So I show up first thing. Wait for 20 minutes for somebody to show up to help everyone in line. They say sure they will take care of it, will be 2 hours though. Crap. Ended up being nearly 4 hours before they got to it. All the had ahead of me was 2 cars needing tires, and one of those was only getting 2 tires. Geez, they are slow. So when they get to it, the start to proceed to tell me how they cant do it because its a used tire etc. I tell them I have been there nearly 4 hours to be told this, and its just going on a trailer. Finally they go ahead and do it. Takes them less than 5 minutes of course to mount the stupid thing. Why the hell they could not have just had somebody mount it real quick in the morning I dont know. Anyway, that put me way behind so I got to run into the ice storm on the way back. Actually when I hit the rain it was not quite cold enough to freeze and it stopped long enough for me to get home anyway. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Naw, he'll keep the trailer and charge delivery fees when he sells something. Bob R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell Naw, he will just sell the trailer now that the buying freeze is on. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I predict that K'leb will have two MOUNTED spares in the truck the next time he does an interstate car haul. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:21:46 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Well, you do want to go faster than 65mph. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. If you can get enough weight capacity with car tires, the excess capacity of trailer tires would be wasted. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Pay more for trailer tires and they last less -- what's wrong with this picture? Anybody got any thoughts? See above. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Most of my experience with trailer tires is 22 inch, so that won't help much. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. And that's why the answer is not clear. If you need the weight rating, use truck or trailer tires - not car tires. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. Maybe that's because only folks who actually haul weight will spend money with the hi-load tires and because the tires are being worked hard they fail? The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? The big enemy of tires is heat. The greatest source of heat is tire flex. Tire flex decreases as air pressure increases. As I understand, truck and trailer tire ratings have a greater overload margine than passenger car tires. So, how much weight is on the tire? Are car tires an option? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. Thats probably plenty for many small to medium cars, but wonder if the 140 was too much weight Fmiser wrote: Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Most of my experience with trailer tires is 22 inch, so that won't help much. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. And that's why the answer is not clear. If you need the weight rating, use truck or trailer tires - not car tires. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. Maybe that's because only folks who actually haul weight will spend money with the hi-load tires and because the tires are being worked hard they fail? The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? The big enemy of tires is heat. The greatest source of heat is tire flex. Tire flex decreases as air pressure increases. As I understand, truck and trailer tire ratings have a greater overload margine than passenger car tires. So, how much weight is on the tire? Are car tires an option? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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WalMart is slow on purpose. The longer they take the more likely you will buy something in the store. You did buy something, right? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/14/08 7:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell Well as we left off I was going to go back to walmart first thing this morning to get that tire mounted for the trailer. So I show up first thing. Wait for 20 minutes for somebody to show up to help everyone in line. They say sure they will take care of it, will be 2 hours though. Crap. Ended up being nearly 4 hours before they got to it. All the had ahead of me was 2 cars needing tires, and one of those was only getting 2 tires. Geez, they are slow. So when they get to it, the start to proceed to tell me how they cant do it because its a used tire etc. I tell them I have been there nearly 4 hours to be told this, and its just going on a trailer. Finally they go ahead and do it. Takes them less than 5 minutes of course to mount the stupid thing. Why the hell they could not have just had somebody mount it real quick in the morning I dont know. Anyway, that put me way behind so I got to run into the ice storm on the way back. Actually when I hit the rain it was not quite cold enough to freeze and it stopped long enough for me to get home anyway. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
I don't know but I do know that a neighbor was pulling a ski boat with his 3/4 ton Suburban and had 3 blow-outs in one year. It turns out that the tires he was running weren't up to the load even though the tong weight + 1/4 of the Suburban weight were well under what was marked on the tire sidewalls. He went up one load rating and the problems went away. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES) Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. Thats probably plenty for many small to medium cars, but wonder if the 140 was too much weight Fmiser wrote: Kaleb wrote: Anyway, have been thinking now, is it OK to run car tires on a trailer? Yes. Or no. I have done a little short bit of research and some say yes, some say no. Seems car tires might last a little longer that trailer rated tires, and trailer tires I think you are only supposed to go up to 65mph with them. Most of my experience with trailer tires is 22 inch, so that won't help much. Also car tires are cheaper but the air pressure rating is usually much lower than trailer tires, and the weight rating is lower. And that's why the answer is not clear. If you need the weight rating, use truck or trailer tires - not car tires. The reviews in the goodyear trailer tires look like they have blow out often. Maybe that's because only folks who actually haul weight will spend money with the hi-load tires and because the tires are being worked hard they fail? The load star trailer tires that came new on my trailer did not seem to last long before they were bald. I think car tires might last longer. Anybody got any thoughts? The big enemy of tires is heat. The greatest source of heat is tire flex. Tire flex decreases as air pressure increases. As I understand, truck and trailer tire ratings have a greater overload margine than passenger car tires. So, how much weight is on the tire? Are car tires an option? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release Date: 12/14/2008 12:28 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I make it back, Walmart hell (TRAILER TIRES)
Well take for instance, how much does a 140 weight? Im not sure. Its a heavy car I know that. Trailer is a regular old steel flat bed 18' trailer. dont know how much that weights. Our car hauler weighs around 1800#. The typical MB I'd put on it is something like 3400-3800#, IIRC. My pickup truck is 7000#. The trailer tires are holding the car, plus another 2000# of load. Tires I have on now are 1499 per tire, so 5996 total capacity. So that's 6000# with four tires. Right around what the trailer and car weigh together. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
