Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Mitch Haley]

Joe Knight wrote:
> BTW, don't get greedy and try to snag more than one thing at a time.
> IIRC, Tarek has threatened to pull the plug if he continues to have
> problems doing the stuff he needs to do due to overreaching demand.


Yes, I saved that message.
Somebody at a major newspaper decided to prove that he had far
more bandwidth than Tarek by opening 25 simultaneous connections.
To Tarek, it probably looked like a denial of service attack until
he figured out what was happening.

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Joe Knight]

I've not tried to actually download anything from Tarek's site, but
just reviewed an email of his on the subject.  For reason's about
which I'm completely clueless he doesn't allow passive mode transfers.
 If you're using SmartFTP, you could try switching to active mode: 
Tools > Settings > Connection > Data Connection -> "Passive Mode /
Active Mode.The following is from his email:

"Please make sure of the following: if you are using an FTP client software,
disable passive FTP transfers. If you are using a web browser such as IE,
make sure you have 'folder view enabled for FTP' sites checked and 'use
passive FTP' unchecked in the advanced tab of the internet options.

I know there has been an issue in the past with me not allowing passive FTP
transfers. FYI, this server is behind a NAT firewall and still functions
fully without the use of passive FTP transfers. I understand your pain if
you are a user behind a firewall, however there are other options besides
passive transfers which will still allow you to connect to my server. My
suggestion to those of you in this situation is to enter your firewall
software or router configuration page. Go to the section which deals with
port range forwarding and simply forward ports 20 and 21 to your local IP
address. I would be happy to provide more detailed information on how to do
this, however this information is most easily obtained from the company
website of you firewall software or router."


On 8/7/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nobody's program worked...downloads aborted due to (you name it)...ok don,
> i'm sending you an envelope!

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[JJJ]

nobody's program worked...downloads aborted due to (you name it)...ok don, 
i'm sending you an envelope!


JJJ -
If Joe's program doesn't work for you, I use a free program called FTP
commander at ...

http://www.internet-soft.com/download.htm

Once you have downloaded this and installed it you would just enter a new
site and put Tarek's FTP site in the "properties" area. After that you just
click on his site and it pops up. This is also one of the programs that, if
the transfer was stopped for some reason, will continue where you left off.
With a fast connection it will likely take you 2 or 3 hours to download 
the

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Barry Stark]

JJJ -
If Joe's program doesn't work for you, I use a free program called FTP
commander at ...

http://www.internet-soft.com/download.htm

Once you have downloaded this and installed it you would just enter a new
site and put Tarek's FTP site in the "properties" area. After that you just
click on his site and it pops up. This is also one of the programs that, if
the transfer was stopped for some reason, will continue where you left off.
With a fast connection it will likely take you 2 or 3 hours to download the
file from the server. With dial up it would be a matter of days.

Barry

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED


so...i download an FTP program, then what? enter the web address?

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[JJJ]

thanx joe, i didn't realize i needed to download the manual...it came broken 
the first time, triing again now


so, what else is out there to be downloaded by  FTP servers and how might 
one go looking at the possibilities?  i knew napster when it was a great 
place to share... 

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Joe Knight]

Using SmartFTP, I copied the link from Marshall's post and pasted it
into the address bar in the upper left corner of the window, paying no
mind that it doesn't appear there as identical to the original link. 
There are pretty obvious places to enter the user name & password. 
Click the 'connect' button, wait for a few seconds while the client
locates the ftp site, look for the folder/file you want to download in
the left pane that will appear.  Then right click it>download>direct &
specifiy the location on your machine that you want it to go to.  I've
made a "Downloads" folder on my desktop for just that purpose.  Expect
the download to take several to many hours to complete; dunno how fast
Tarek's connection will spit it out or how quickly your own connection
will be able to receive.

Looking at the 107 manual on Tarek's site, I've no idea why it's an
executable.  If it were there in the same form as on the cd, I'd
suggest that you just download the Program folder, get Acrobat Reader
& Shockwave Flash from Adobe and Macromedia as free downloads if you
don't already have them.  Then find the file matrix.htm or matrix6.htm
in the Program folder of the manual & put a shortcut, renamed so you
can recognize it, pointing to that file on your desktop or someplace
else convenient and use that to launch the manual straight to model
selection.  For all the manuals except the 201 the Program folder,
reader & flash are all you need for full access.  Anybody got a clue
as to why the 107 is posted as an executable?

joe

On 8/7/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so...i download an FTP program, then what? enter the web address?

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Barry Stark]

JJJ -
go to "CD Manuals"  then to "R107"

Barry

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Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED


i went to that great site, but where does one go for the 107 manual on the 
website?

Barry Stark wrote:
> Takek's FTP server
>

telshena.dyndns.org

user name: Diesel, password: diesel

Marshall

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[JJJ]

so...i download an FTP program, then what? enter the web address?

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Joe Knight]

If there's a way to access the manuals with a web browser, I missed it
too.  Probably best to download an ftp client like SmartFTP, CuteFTP,
or any one of no doubt dozens of others, and use it to access the
goodies.  As I said previously, I had no problem whatsoever finding
them using SmartFTP.  It's a pretty short learning curve if you
haven't used an ftp client before & as Marshall and others have
pointed out in the past, a good ftp client will allow you to resume
downloading if you lose your connection in the middle of a marathon,
rather than having to start over from scratch.

BTW, don't get greedy and try to snag more than one thing at a time. 
IIRC, Tarek has threatened to pull the plug if he continues to have
problems doing the stuff he needs to do due to overreaching demand.

joe

On 8/7/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i went to that great site, but where does one go for the 107 manual on the
> website?

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[JJJ]

i went to that great site, but where does one go for the 107 manual on the 
website?


Barry Stark wrote:

Takek's FTP server



telshena.dyndns.org

user name: Diesel, password: diesel

Marshall
--

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Joe Knight]

Goodo, Marshall.  First time I've accessed it; got right in using the
default settings for SmartFTP.  Looks like most of the goodies are
there.  Just for the sake of redundancy somebody might want to upload
the more current price list from Spud's website.

Kudos, Tarek!

joe

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Marshall Booth]

Barry Stark wrote:

Takek's FTP server



telshena.dyndns.org

user name: Diesel, password: diesel

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Barry Stark]

Takek's FTP server

>The 107 manual is mia from http://mb.braingears.com/, but so far as I
>know there are still a couple of ftp sites from which they can be
>snagged...?  Anyone?

>joe

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Joe Knight]

The 107 manual is mia from http://mb.braingears.com/, but so far as I
know there are still a couple of ftp sites from which they can be
snagged...?  Anyone?

joe

On 8/6/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Knight...thanks for the link to the manuals...where do i find them for
> my soon new '75 450sl??

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[JJJ]

Joe Knight...thanks for the link to the manuals...where do i find them for 
my soon new '75 450sl?? 

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Joe Knight]

Kaleb'll take it off your hands if you're w/i hauling distance.

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Dan Weeks]

You guys are going to spend all weekend just figuring out what you
should be discussing.  Here's a couple of pics that may help you sort
that out.


Thanks for the definitive answer. Yikes, though. What the two 
diagrams clearly show is that the torsion bar is one piece. And 
according to information posted earlier, changeout is a 12.5 hour 
job. Costing, no doubt, a fortune. Yikes again. No wonder my indy is 
reluctant to call me back.


Thanks again, though, for the info!


--
Dan Weeks
82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 175k
82 Mercedes 300SD, 260k

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Joe Knight]

You guys are going to spend all weekend just figuring out what you
should be discussing.  Here's a couple of pics that may help you sort
that out.


126120 front axle.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


126120 torsion.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well there are no links the whole arm is 1 piece.

Dan Weeks wrote:

What I am saying is that the end of the arm (I'd call it a sway bar 
link) that goes through the suspension snapped off just behind where 
the threads start, underneath the rubber bushings. I'm still waiting 
for a quote from my indy, but it appears, and I hope, that just the 
link will need to be replaced. I'll keep you all informed.


Thanks for all the interest and information!

Dan



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

If I am understanding correctly, the links to the suspension would 
be the upper control arms, that is where the mount to.  Never seen 
one break though, just the ball joint goes bad.


I think what he is saying is the bolt that goes through the bushings 
on the UCA that screws into the torsion bar snapped.  That's the 
best I can figure, and seems to make the most sense.


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1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi
1980 300TD 167+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi






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Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Dan Weeks]

What I am saying is that the end of the arm (I'd call it a sway bar 
link) that goes through the suspension snapped off just behind where 
the threads start, underneath the rubber bushings. I'm still waiting 
for a quote from my indy, but it appears, and I hope, that just the 
link will need to be replaced. I'll keep you all informed.


Thanks for all the interest and information!

Dan


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
If I am understanding correctly, the links to the suspension would 
be the upper control arms, that is where the mount to.  Never seen 
one break though, just the ball joint goes bad.


I think what he is saying is the bolt that goes through the bushings 
on the UCA that screws into the torsion bar snapped.  That's the 
best I can figure, and seems to make the most sense.


--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi
1980 300TD 167+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi



--
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82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 175k
82 Mercedes 300SD, 260k

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[John Ervine]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
If I am understanding correctly, the links to the suspension would be 
the upper control arms, that is where the mount to.  Never seen one 
break though, just the ball joint goes bad.


I think what he is saying is the bolt that goes through the bushings on the UCA 
that screws into the torsion bar snapped.  That's the best I can figure, and 
seems to make the most sense.


--
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1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi
1980 300TD 167+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

If I am understanding correctly, the links to the suspension would be 
the upper control arms, that is where the mount to.  Never seen one 
break though, just the ball joint goes bad.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 8/4/2005 4:38:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


its a BIG BIG job.  About everything on the firewall has to come out to
get that sucker out of there.

I don't think his bar is broken, just the link to the suspension.  In 
this case, I would do both links as they are about $20 each.  If the bar 
is truly broken, then there is no left or right to replace, it is all 
one piece, and Kaleb is right, it is quite a job.
 
Jim Friesen

Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles
98 ML 320, 137 K miles




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Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Dennis Perkins]

What links.  I just replaced the upper control arms on my 84 300SD and all 
there was was a bolt that screwed into the end of the sway bar with two 
bushings surrounding it.  If the bolt is broken  you might be lucky.  If the 
end of the sway bar is cracked I don't see how it could be easily repaired.


Dennis Perkins
84 300SD


I don't think his bar is broken, just the link to the suspension. In this
case, I would do both links as they are about $20 each. If the bar is 
truly
broken, then there is no left or right to replace, it is all one piece, 
and

Kaleb is right, it is quite a job.
Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles
98 ML 320, 137 K miles

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Dan Weeks]

Thanks, all, for your responses. Jim is correct--it is the link to 
the suspension that is broken. That rusted away and snapped right 
where it goes through the suspension, where a rubber bushing trapped 
water and salt. From what my indy could see on his computer, those 
ends spline into the actual torsion part of the swaybar. I'll let you 
all know what happens.


Meanwhile, thanks again!


In a message dated 8/4/2005 4:38:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


its a BIG BIG job.  About everything on the firewall has to come out to
get that sucker out of there.

I don't think his bar is broken, just the link to the suspension. 
In this case, I would do both links as they are about $20 each. 
If the bar is truly broken, then there is no left or right to 
replace, it is all one piece, and Kaleb is right, it is quite a job.


Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles
98 ML 320, 137 K miles



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82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 175k
82 Mercedes 300SD, 260k

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

About that same time somebody mentioned a 3 piece bar, splines end and 
stuff.

On 8/5/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>  about a year or more ago, someone on this list proposed cutting the long 
> bar in two, fixing all ends needed, then welding it back together...anybody 
> remember the results?
>In a message dated 8/4/2005 4:38:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> its a BIG BIG job. About everything on the firewall has to come out to 
> get that sucker out of there.
> 
>  I don't think his bar is broken, just the link to the suspension. In this 
> case, I would do both links as they are about $20 each. If the bar is truly 
> broken, then there is no left or right to replace, it is all one piece, and 
> Kaleb is right, it is quite a job. 
> Jim Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 261 K miles 
> 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
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Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[JJJ]

 about a year or more ago, someone on this list proposed cutting the long bar 
in two, fixing all ends needed, then welding it back together...anybody 
remember the results?


In a message dated 8/4/2005 4:38:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  its a BIG BIG job.  About everything on the firewall has to come out to 
  get that sucker out of there.

I don't think his bar is broken, just the link to the suspension.  In this 
case, I would do both links as they are about $20 each.  If the bar is truly 
broken, then there is no left or right to replace, it is all one piece, and 
Kaleb is right, it is quite a job. 

Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K miles

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 8/4/2005 4:38:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

its a  BIG BIG job.  About everything on the firewall has to come out to 
get  that sucker out of there.



I don't think his bar is broken, just the link to the suspension.  In  this 
case, I would do both links as they are about $20 each.  If the  bar is truly 
broken, then there is no left or right to replace, it is all one  piece, and 
Kaleb is right, it is quite a job.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[RAH]

  http://mb.braingears.com/126_DISC1/program/Chassis/32-300.pdf   

 This will give you an idea of all the work involved to R&R front stabilizer (I 
call it a swaybar) I was just looking at this the other day to see what it 
would take to just pull the ends out of the upper control arms and paint them 
with POR-15 before they rust and break.

If I am interrupting the document Mercedes Labor Time on the FTP site 
correctly.  Series 50 early w126. 12.2 Hrs, Series 60 late w126 12.4 Hrs.

Your Indy will be doing both sides because it is a 1 piece bar that runs from 
one side to the other. Unless he can patch it back together somehow, but I 
don't think that will work.   Russ H

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Jeff Zedic]

I had this done on my 81 under warranty about four or five years ago. 
Check with your local dealership and maybe your's can be done also!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D

Re: [MBZ] 126 RF STABILIZER FAILURE ADVICE NEEDED

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

its a BIG BIG job.  About everything on the firewall has to come out to 
get that sucker out of there.


Dan Weeks wrote:

After applying the brakes hard at about 5mph, I heard a bang. 
Checked under the car and the RF stabilizer (I've heard them called 
"Torsion bars" on this list) had snapped off at the outer end. Rust 
under the bushing did it in, I think. Anyway, my indy's about to give 
me a quote for parts and labor, but he didn't have a time estimate 
for it available to him, so he seemed less than sure how much to 
charge, or how long it would take. Anyone done this or had it done 
and know what's reasonable? He also wanted to suggest doing the other 
side, which I'm inclined to decline. THoughts on that appreciated, 
too.


TIA!

Dan


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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