Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oh man, all sorts of exercises with the medicine ball. Lie on your back, one 
foot on the ball, leg bent, other leg outstretched. Lift your bum and 
outstretched leg using the leg balanced on the ball. Lower and repeat for 45 
seconds.Then do push-ups but one hand is on the ball.Then "dead bug" lying on 
your back hold the ball over your head legs bent so your thighs point up, knees 
bent 90 degrees, lower one thigh keeping the knee bent, bring that one back up 
and lower the other one. For extra "fun" push the ball away from your torso.
Standing hold the ball overhead and do a forward lunge...
Standing, ball on the floor in front of you roll the ball from foot to foot 
controlling it with one hand.
There are 10 exercises but not all use the ball. 
Curt

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  On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:   Your gym is not pricey by DC standards (try paying $208/mo.).  All our 
gyms have been closed again, as has all indoor restaurant dining.Today we used 
medicine balls, I've adopted the 15# "boulder".What do you do with the medicine 
ball?

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 The kind of gym you go to makes a huge difference. The place I go is whole 
body training, small classes, which is why its able to still be open. There 
were 6 of us tonight.We do 10 different exercises for 45 seconds each and go 
through 3 times. You'd think 45 seconds isn't very long but one of the 
exercises tonight was a bird-dog plank. Think of setting up to do a push up, 
then lift one arm straight out past your head, at the same time lift the 
opposite leg. 45 seconds of that is plenty. Today we used medicine balls, I've 
adopted the 15# "boulder". There are a few of us who are a little competitive 
about the weight...
The place I go is expensive, I think I'm paying around $1500 a year which is 
definitely something I think of if I'm considering skipping a class.
We've been back at it since July and I bet I haven't missed a dozen classes...
-Curt

    On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 9:41:15 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 I think it depends on which news source you go by. 

When I was out of town last week I hit the treadmill every night at the hotel. 
I did a mile jog each night trying to work up to 2 miles etc. we have a really 
nice treadmill at the house but I can’t seem to get the wife to move all the 
cloths she has piled up on it and she tells me not to touch it. We also have a 
gym membership we have been paying for because last year she decided she wanted 
to start working out. I don’t think she has been to the gym in a year and keeps 
insisting next week she will go. In the mean time we still get dinged every 
month. She says I can go over there rather than using our treadmill at home. I 
don’t want to spend 30 minutes driving there and 30 minutes back to do a 15-20 
workout on the treadmill. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or have 
> underlying conditions.
> 
> Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been 
> hitting the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood pressure 
> is so normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about 6 months I 
> expect to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood pressure 
> medication I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my energy 
> levels. The stuff I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've got a lot 
> more get up and go even just not taking it every day...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:06:33 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
> vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
> that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> >> On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right 
> >> next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
> >> 
> >> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the 
> >> benefits across the board.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
>  On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just 
> >>> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is 
> >>> in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in 
> >>> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds 
> >>> what are 5g speeds supposed to be?
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my 

Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I bought a really nice Schwinn spin bike ($1000 new) about a year ago for $100. 
It was as good if not better than the “official” bikes at the Y. Unfortunately, 
I never really got set up to use it as there just wasn’t a good space for it in 
the house. I tried using it in the guest room but it was in the way and I had a 
hard time finding a way to keep the carpet under it from getting soggy. When I 
saw what exercise equipment was going for recently, I put it on FB marketplace 
for $150 and it was gone within minutes.

-D

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-12-17 07:22, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> 
>> Sadly, I don’t spin any more, mainly because our YMCA has gotten so
>> crowded that it went from being able to walk up an hour before a class
>> and get a bike to having to register a day in advance for classes.
>> Screw that.
> 
> What's a halfway decent airbike cost at garage sales or on CL down there?
> Can you get one off your local upper middle class free stuff boards?
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-17 07:22, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:




Sadly, I don’t spin any more, mainly because our YMCA has gotten so
crowded that it went from being able to walk up an hour before a class
and get a bike to having to register a day in advance for classes.
Screw that.


What's a halfway decent airbike cost at garage sales or on CL down 
there?

Can you get one off your local upper middle class free stuff boards?

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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Cardio, baby!

I loved to spin (stationary bike). There’s no workout like a 45 minute spin 
class, and not surprisingly, not a lot of fit people can do one out of the 
gate. We would often have people who were training for a marathon come in 
during the colder months because they thought it would be “easy”. Even if 
you’re in shape it take a good 3-5 classes to get going, and after the first 
couple of classes you’re hurting in places you never imagined.

Sadly, I don’t spin any more, mainly because our YMCA has gotten so crowded 
that it went from being able to walk up an hour before a class and get a bike 
to having to register a day in advance for classes. Screw that.

So now I walk every day. Briskly. I do miss my spin classes, though. Best ever 
45 minute workout I ever had.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2020, at 10:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My gym is a pretty standard gym I guess. Treadmills, stationary bikes,
> rowing machines, ellipticals in front. Weight machines of various types
> in the middle. Free weights, benches, squat racks, powerlifting in the
> back. Dressing rooms with lockers, showers. Really nice sauna. Local
> owner, not part of any chain. One year single membership is $350. Guess
> I didn't realize what a deal that is. Any personal training is extra
> though, and independent of the gym.
> 
> They were shut down from about March - June but have been open since
> then. I started going in summer of 2019 and although I have generally
> hated exercise my whole life, I have found that I've been able to stick
> with weights. I do maybe 10 min of jogging on the treadmill to get my
> blood pumping and the rest is weights. I finish with 20 minutes in the
> sauna. I try to go every other day and rarely miss.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Your gym is not pricey by DC standards (try paying $208/mo.).  All our gyms
>> have been closed again, as has all indoor restaurant dining.
>> *Today we used medicine balls, I've adopted the 15# "boulder".*
>> What do you do with the medicine ball?
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The kind of gym you go to makes a huge difference. The place I go is
>>> whole body training, small classes, which is why its able to still be open.
>>> There were 6 of us tonight.We do 10 different exercises for 45 seconds each
>>> and go through 3 times. You'd think 45 seconds isn't very long but one of
>>> the exercises tonight was a bird-dog plank. Think of setting up to do a
>>> push up, then lift one arm straight out past your head, at the same time
>>> lift the opposite leg. 45 seconds of that is plenty. Today we used medicine
>>> balls, I've adopted the 15# "boulder". There are a few of us who are a
>>> little competitive about the weight...
>>> The place I go is expensive, I think I'm paying around $1500 a year which
>>> is definitely something I think of if I'm considering skipping a class.
>>> We've been back at it since July and I bet I haven't missed a dozen
>>> classes...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 9:41:15 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think it depends on which news source you go by.
>>> 
>>> When I was out of town last week I hit the treadmill every night at the
>>> hotel. I did a mile jog each night trying to work up to 2 miles etc. we
>>> have a really nice treadmill at the house but I can’t seem to get the wife
>>> to move all the cloths she has piled up on it and she tells me not to touch
>>> it. We also have a gym membership we have been paying for because last year
>>> she decided she wanted to start working out. I don’t think she has been to
>>> the gym in a year and keeps insisting next week she will go. In the mean
>>> time we still get dinged every month. She says I can go over there rather
>>> than using our treadmill at home. I don’t want to spend 30 minutes driving
>>> there and 30 minutes back to do a 15-20 workout on the treadmill.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
 
 
 Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or
>>> have underlying conditions.
 
 Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been
>>> hitting the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood
>>> pressure is so normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about
>>> 6 months I expect to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood
>>> pressure medication I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my
>>> energy levels. The stuff I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've
>>> got a lot more get up and go even just not taking it every day...
 
 -Curt
 
 On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:06:33 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 
 Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out
>>> the 

Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Curt - that's great news!  Thanks for sharing!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:06 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or
> have underlying conditions.
> Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been
> hitting the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood
> pressure is so normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about
> 6 months I expect to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood
> pressure medication I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my
> energy levels. The stuff I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've
> got a lot more get up and go even just not taking it every day...
> -Curt
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

My gym is a pretty standard gym I guess. Treadmills, stationary bikes,
rowing machines, ellipticals in front. Weight machines of various types
in the middle. Free weights, benches, squat racks, powerlifting in the
back. Dressing rooms with lockers, showers. Really nice sauna. Local
owner, not part of any chain. One year single membership is $350. Guess
I didn't realize what a deal that is. Any personal training is extra
though, and independent of the gym.

They were shut down from about March - June but have been open since
then. I started going in summer of 2019 and although I have generally
hated exercise my whole life, I have found that I've been able to stick
with weights. I do maybe 10 min of jogging on the treadmill to get my
blood pumping and the rest is weights. I finish with 20 minutes in the
sauna. I try to go every other day and rarely miss.

Allan


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Your gym is not pricey by DC standards (try paying $208/mo.).  All our gyms
> have been closed again, as has all indoor restaurant dining.
> *Today we used medicine balls, I've adopted the 15# "boulder".*
> What do you do with the medicine ball?
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>  The kind of gym you go to makes a huge difference. The place I go is
>> whole body training, small classes, which is why its able to still be open.
>> There were 6 of us tonight.We do 10 different exercises for 45 seconds each
>> and go through 3 times. You'd think 45 seconds isn't very long but one of
>> the exercises tonight was a bird-dog plank. Think of setting up to do a
>> push up, then lift one arm straight out past your head, at the same time
>> lift the opposite leg. 45 seconds of that is plenty. Today we used medicine
>> balls, I've adopted the 15# "boulder". There are a few of us who are a
>> little competitive about the weight...
>> The place I go is expensive, I think I'm paying around $1500 a year which
>> is definitely something I think of if I'm considering skipping a class.
>> We've been back at it since July and I bet I haven't missed a dozen
>> classes...
>> -Curt
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 9:41:15 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>
>>  I think it depends on which news source you go by.
>>
>> When I was out of town last week I hit the treadmill every night at the
>> hotel. I did a mile jog each night trying to work up to 2 miles etc. we
>> have a really nice treadmill at the house but I can’t seem to get the wife
>> to move all the cloths she has piled up on it and she tells me not to touch
>> it. We also have a gym membership we have been paying for because last year
>> she decided she wanted to start working out. I don’t think she has been to
>> the gym in a year and keeps insisting next week she will go. In the mean
>> time we still get dinged every month. She says I can go over there rather
>> than using our treadmill at home. I don’t want to spend 30 minutes driving
>> there and 30 minutes back to do a 15-20 workout on the treadmill.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or
>> have underlying conditions.
>> >
>> > Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been
>> hitting the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood
>> pressure is so normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about
>> 6 months I expect to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood
>> pressure medication I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my
>> energy levels. The stuff I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've
>> got a lot more get up and go even just not taking it every day...
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:06:33 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out
>> the vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try
>> something that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery
>> rate.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails
>> > >
>> > > --FT
>> > >
>> > >> On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> > >> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not
>> right next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
>> > >>
>> > >> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the
>> benefits across the board.
>> > >>
>> > >> -D
>> > >>
>> >  On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I
>> just tested my speed at 135mbps. 

Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Your gym is not pricey by DC standards (try paying $208/mo.).  All our gyms
have been closed again, as has all indoor restaurant dining.
*Today we used medicine balls, I've adopted the 15# "boulder".*
What do you do with the medicine ball?

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  The kind of gym you go to makes a huge difference. The place I go is
> whole body training, small classes, which is why its able to still be open.
> There were 6 of us tonight.We do 10 different exercises for 45 seconds each
> and go through 3 times. You'd think 45 seconds isn't very long but one of
> the exercises tonight was a bird-dog plank. Think of setting up to do a
> push up, then lift one arm straight out past your head, at the same time
> lift the opposite leg. 45 seconds of that is plenty. Today we used medicine
> balls, I've adopted the 15# "boulder". There are a few of us who are a
> little competitive about the weight...
> The place I go is expensive, I think I'm paying around $1500 a year which
> is definitely something I think of if I'm considering skipping a class.
> We've been back at it since July and I bet I haven't missed a dozen
> classes...
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 9:41:15 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  I think it depends on which news source you go by.
>
> When I was out of town last week I hit the treadmill every night at the
> hotel. I did a mile jog each night trying to work up to 2 miles etc. we
> have a really nice treadmill at the house but I can’t seem to get the wife
> to move all the cloths she has piled up on it and she tells me not to touch
> it. We also have a gym membership we have been paying for because last year
> she decided she wanted to start working out. I don’t think she has been to
> the gym in a year and keeps insisting next week she will go. In the mean
> time we still get dinged every month. She says I can go over there rather
> than using our treadmill at home. I don’t want to spend 30 minutes driving
> there and 30 minutes back to do a 15-20 workout on the treadmill.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or
> have underlying conditions.
> >
> > Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been
> hitting the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood
> pressure is so normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about
> 6 months I expect to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood
> pressure medication I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my
> energy levels. The stuff I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've
> got a lot more get up and go even just not taking it every day...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:06:33 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out
> the vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try
> something that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery
> rate.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > >> On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not
> right next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
> > >>
> > >> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the
> benefits across the board.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> >  On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I
> just tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This
> is in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in
> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds what
> are 5g speeds supposed to be?
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The kind of gym you go to makes a huge difference. The place I go is whole 
body training, small classes, which is why its able to still be open. There 
were 6 of us tonight.We do 10 different exercises for 45 seconds each and go 
through 3 times. You'd think 45 seconds isn't very long but one of the 
exercises tonight was a bird-dog plank. Think of setting up to do a push up, 
then lift one arm straight out past your head, at the same time lift the 
opposite leg. 45 seconds of that is plenty. Today we used medicine balls, I've 
adopted the 15# "boulder". There are a few of us who are a little competitive 
about the weight...
The place I go is expensive, I think I'm paying around $1500 a year which is 
definitely something I think of if I'm considering skipping a class.
We've been back at it since July and I bet I haven't missed a dozen classes...
-Curt

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 9:41:15 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I think it depends on which news source you go by. 

When I was out of town last week I hit the treadmill every night at the hotel. 
I did a mile jog each night trying to work up to 2 miles etc. we have a really 
nice treadmill at the house but I can’t seem to get the wife to move all the 
cloths she has piled up on it and she tells me not to touch it. We also have a 
gym membership we have been paying for because last year she decided she wanted 
to start working out. I don’t think she has been to the gym in a year and keeps 
insisting next week she will go. In the mean time we still get dinged every 
month. She says I can go over there rather than using our treadmill at home. I 
don’t want to spend 30 minutes driving there and 30 minutes back to do a 15-20 
workout on the treadmill. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or have 
> underlying conditions.
> 
> Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been 
> hitting the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood pressure 
> is so normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about 6 months I 
> expect to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood pressure 
> medication I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my energy 
> levels. The stuff I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've got a lot 
> more get up and go even just not taking it every day...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:06:33 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
> vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
> that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> >> On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right 
> >> next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
> >> 
> >> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the 
> >> benefits across the board.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
>  On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just 
> >>> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is 
> >>> in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in 
> >>> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds 
> >>> what are 5g speeds supposed to be?
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I was threatened with BP meds 15 years ago - did some research and used
this instead:
https://www.sfherb.com/Hibiscus-Flowers-Cut--1-Lb_p_13.html
I drank 4-5 cups a day for a year, and never heard another mention of meds.
I'm down to two cups a day now and doing fine - pass my flight physical
without issues.
My wife likes it, I tolerate it.

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> I'm with you on the BP meds Curt.  I was on a big dose of carvedilol after
> my heart failure, and it nearly cost me my job.  About all I could do was
> wander in to work and stagger through the day, sort of like having an
> anchor in each shoe.  Same thing my Dad felt when he had heart trouble in
> the 70's.
>
> Got that backed off and I have much more energy, but I don't feel normal
> unless I skip the meds a couple days in a row.  Funny thing is that the
> heart failure was viral and temporary.  My BP has always been in the
> 140-150 over 90 range, and I have zero effects from it other than a
> slightly thickened left ventricle wall, and that was normal while I had the
> heart failure.
>
> I need to get more excercise and get some weight off anyway, maybe I can
> ditch the carvedilol.  Only still on it because my cardiologist said he'd
> seen some cases where discontinuing it caused the ventricular failure to
> re-appear, otherwise I'd have quit it then.
>
> Ain't life grand?
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I'm with you on the BP meds Curt.  I was on a big dose of carvedilol after my 
heart failure, and it nearly cost me my job.  About all I could do was wander 
in to work and stagger through the day, sort of like having an anchor in each 
shoe.  Same thing my Dad felt when he had heart trouble in the 70's.

Got that backed off and I have much more energy, but I don't feel normal unless 
I skip the meds a couple days in a row.  Funny thing is that the heart failure 
was viral and temporary.  My BP has always been in the 140-150 over 90 range, 
and I have zero effects from it other than a slightly thickened left ventricle 
wall, and that was normal while I had the heart failure.

I need to get more excercise and get some weight off anyway, maybe I can ditch 
the carvedilol.  Only still on it because my cardiologist said he'd seen some 
cases where discontinuing it caused the ventricular failure to re-appear, 
otherwise I'd have quit it then.

Ain't life grand?

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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I think it depends on which news source you go by. 

When I was out of town last week I hit the treadmill every night at the hotel. 
I did a mile jog each night trying to work up to 2 miles etc. we have a really 
nice treadmill at the house but I can’t seem to get the wife to move all the 
cloths she has piled up on it and she tells me not to touch it. We also have a 
gym membership we have been paying for because last year she decided she wanted 
to start working out. I don’t think she has been to the gym in a year and keeps 
insisting next week she will go. In the mean time we still get dinged every 
month. She says I can go over there rather than using our treadmill at home. I 
don’t want to spend 30 minutes driving there and 30 minutes back to do a 15-20 
workout on the treadmill. 

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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or have 
> underlying conditions.
> 
> Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been 
> hitting the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood pressure 
> is so normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about 6 months I 
> expect to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood pressure 
> medication I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my energy 
> levels. The stuff I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've got a lot 
> more get up and go even just not taking it every day...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:06:33 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
> vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
> that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate. 
> 
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> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> >> On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right 
> >> next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
> >> 
> >> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the 
> >> benefits across the board.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
>  On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just 
> >>> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is 
> >>> in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in 
> >>> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds 
> >>> what are 5g speeds supposed to be?
> >>> 
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 Its more like a 96% recovery rate overall, much worse if you're older or have 
underlying conditions.
Speaking of which, I'd like to take a moment for a brag here. I've been hitting 
the gym 3 days a week since it reopened in July and my blood pressure is so 
normal I'm only taking medication 4 days a week and in about 6 months I expect 
to drop it entirely. This is great news because any blood pressure medication 
I've ever taken that actually worked also affected my energy levels. The stuff 
I'm on now is the best of the bunch but boy I've got a lot more get up and go 
even just not taking it every day...
-Curt

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 6:06:33 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate. 

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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right 
>> next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
>> 
>> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the benefits 
>> across the board.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just 
>>> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is 
>>> in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in 
>>> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds what 
>>> are 5g speeds supposed to be?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

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Read the book as well.

Same sort of short sighted hysteria that drives purchasing “health” foods and 
trend of the month eating fad.  The marketing solution in search of a problem 
with gluten, keto, vegan, organic, fair trade, green and clean energy.  Causes 
more problems and makes people ill.

Clay


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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you ever seen the movie I am Legend?  The vaccine was the cause of the 
> zombie apocalypse.


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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Have you ever seen the movie I am Legend?  The vaccine was the cause of 
the zombie apocalypse.


On 12/15/2020 7:46 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Just wait until spring when there are three or four to chose from.  That way 
you will know which pokes are full of “features”.   Try a cocktail of them all, 
just to be on the safe side.  Want to make sure you get all the CCP goodness 
with the Heweee 5G routers, chemtrails, and Fang Bang side impacts

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur


On Dec 15, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate.


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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Wholeheartedly agree with that judgement.

Clay


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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is no reason to buy a modern car either.

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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

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Just wait until spring when there are three or four to chose from.  That way 
you will know which pokes are full of “features”.   Try a cocktail of them all, 
just to be on the safe side.  Want to make sure you get all the CCP goodness 
with the Heweee 5G routers, chemtrails, and Fang Bang side impacts

Clay


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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
> vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
> that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate. 


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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

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On 2020-12-15 18:31, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


The mm wave will support some serious speeds, but it has very limited
range. This is what they deploy in metropolitan areas. The lower
frequency (600 MHz?) stuff will go into outlying areas where line of
sight and latency is expected.


T-Mo uses the 700MHz band for some of its "4G" antennae, in order to 
push the signal some distance. I'm 5 miles due south of my T-Mo tower, 
and my cell stretches to the lake nearly five miles south of me. I'm 
pretty sure that cell runs around 700MHz and does not have fantastic 
speeds. I wonder if I can get RF information (frequency, signal 
strength) from the modem they sent me. Cute little thing, slightly 
smaller than my old Cradlepoint pocket router, about the size of a pack 
of cigarettes but half as thick. If the sample device doesn't do the 
lower frequencies I suspect it won't work any better than my phone here.


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Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> I guess it is just a marketing ploy, but the spouse has a phone that is 
> 5g capable and it almost always says it is connected to 5g at the top.  
> Even at the house which is way out in the country. No way there is 
> actually 5g here.

You'd be right. Carriers are using "5G" in their brand names for their
service, even though it's technically 4G LTE.

https://www.howtogeek.com/399560/5g-e-isnt-real-5g.-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

Allan

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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I guess it is just a marketing ploy, but the spouse has a phone that is 
5g capable and it almost always says it is connected to 5g at the top.  
Even at the house which is way out in the country. No way there is 
actually 5g here.


On 12/15/2020 5:32 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

5G phone service is like flying cars -- theoretically possible, but in practice 
is never going to happen.  Don't worry about getting a 5G capable phone any 
time soon, it will be dead of old age before you get any 5G service.
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5G phone service is like flying cars -- theoretically possible, but in practice 
is never going to happen.  Don't worry about getting a 5G capable phone any 
time soon, it will be dead of old age before you get any 5G service.
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Or maybe hysterical plates?

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:31 PM Karl Wittnebel 
wrote:

> Historical plates
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> That is true.  However one way or another I just get the feeling they
>> are going to try to make it impossible to drive older vehicles at some
>> point.
>>
>> On 12/15/2020 5:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
>> > There is no reason to buy a modern car either.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I seem to recall something about installing 5 g radios or whatever
>> > you
>> > call them inside certain buildings, which woudl be the only way to
>> > get
>> > it inside.  Is there really a need to have more than 10-20mbps on
>> > a cell
>> > phone anyway?  I mean in the middle of most cities I get 30-60 and
>> > hit
>> > 133 today in Tulsa.  In other words, is there a reason I need to
>> rush
>> > out to get the new iphone that is 5g capable?  I don't think so.
>> >
>> > On 12/15/2020 5:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> > > This is the great joke of 5G -- the only way to get the higher
>> > "5G" speed is to use the millimeter wavelength signal carrier
>> > (higher frequency, more data per second) that does not penetrate
>> > glass, wood, steel, or masonry.  Basically outside only, and no
>> > more than 500 ft from the antenna, as the signal degrades in the
>> > presence of water vapor too.
>> > >
>> > > You will only see 5G speeds when you are within 500 ft of a
>> > repeater, outside, and there isn't significant interference from
>> > another repeater.
>> > >
>> > > So in other words, 4LTE is what you will have forever in you
>> > car, inside any structure, or more than 500 ft from a millimeter
>> > wavelength repeater.
>> > >
>> > > Not going to happen, 5G is a classic case of 1) a solution is
>> > search of a problem and 2) vapor-ware that will never actually
>> > exist in usable form.
>> > >
>> > > Biggest issue with 5G is that everyone is dropping 1x coverage,
>> > which is gonna isolate people more than a mile or two from an
>> > antenna (read 90% of rural america).  Had to change phones last
>> > year because Verizon was dropping support from my Samsung Alias II
>> > I've had for eons.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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Historical plates

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is true.  However one way or another I just get the feeling they
> are going to try to make it impossible to drive older vehicles at some
> point.
>
> On 12/15/2020 5:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> > There is no reason to buy a modern car either.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I seem to recall something about installing 5 g radios or whatever
> > you
> > call them inside certain buildings, which woudl be the only way to
> > get
> > it inside.  Is there really a need to have more than 10-20mbps on
> > a cell
> > phone anyway?  I mean in the middle of most cities I get 30-60 and
> > hit
> > 133 today in Tulsa.  In other words, is there a reason I need to rush
> > out to get the new iphone that is 5g capable?  I don't think so.
> >
> > On 12/15/2020 5:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > > This is the great joke of 5G -- the only way to get the higher
> > "5G" speed is to use the millimeter wavelength signal carrier
> > (higher frequency, more data per second) that does not penetrate
> > glass, wood, steel, or masonry.  Basically outside only, and no
> > more than 500 ft from the antenna, as the signal degrades in the
> > presence of water vapor too.
> > >
> > > You will only see 5G speeds when you are within 500 ft of a
> > repeater, outside, and there isn't significant interference from
> > another repeater.
> > >
> > > So in other words, 4LTE is what you will have forever in you
> > car, inside any structure, or more than 500 ft from a millimeter
> > wavelength repeater.
> > >
> > > Not going to happen, 5G is a classic case of 1) a solution is
> > search of a problem and 2) vapor-ware that will never actually
> > exist in usable form.
> > >
> > > Biggest issue with 5G is that everyone is dropping 1x coverage,
> > which is gonna isolate people more than a mile or two from an
> > antenna (read 90% of rural america).  Had to change phones last
> > year because Verizon was dropping support from my Samsung Alias II
> > I've had for eons.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope. The cellular guys were already talking about this when I was getting out 
of the generator business, and they thought it was all a lot of pixie dust.

The mm wave will support some serious speeds, but it has very limited range. 
This is what they deploy in metropolitan areas. The lower frequency (600 MHz?) 
stuff will go into outlying areas where line of sight and latency is expected.

It matters not to me, as there’s nothing I do with a phone that would ever 
require those kinds of speeds that I could imagine.

-D

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> 
> Here you go:
> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/12/14/2124229/heres-the-5g-glossary-every-american-is-apparently-going-to-need
> 
> Confused yet?
> 
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right
>> next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
>> 
>> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the
>> benefits across the board.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just
>> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is
>> in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in
>> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds what
>> are 5g speeds supposed to be?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That is true.  However one way or another I just get the feeling they 
are going to try to make it impossible to drive older vehicles at some 
point.


On 12/15/2020 5:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:

There is no reason to buy a modern car either.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I seem to recall something about installing 5 g radios or whatever
you
call them inside certain buildings, which woudl be the only way to
get
it inside.  Is there really a need to have more than 10-20mbps on
a cell
phone anyway?  I mean in the middle of most cities I get 30-60 and
hit
133 today in Tulsa.  In other words, is there a reason I need to rush
out to get the new iphone that is 5g capable?  I don't think so.

On 12/15/2020 5:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> This is the great joke of 5G -- the only way to get the higher
"5G" speed is to use the millimeter wavelength signal carrier
(higher frequency, more data per second) that does not penetrate
glass, wood, steel, or masonry.  Basically outside only, and no
more than 500 ft from the antenna, as the signal degrades in the
presence of water vapor too.
>
> You will only see 5G speeds when you are within 500 ft of a
repeater, outside, and there isn't significant interference from
another repeater.
>
> So in other words, 4LTE is what you will have forever in you
car, inside any structure, or more than 500 ft from a millimeter
wavelength repeater.
>
> Not going to happen, 5G is a classic case of 1) a solution is
search of a problem and 2) vapor-ware that will never actually
exist in usable form.
>
> Biggest issue with 5G is that everyone is dropping 1x coverage,
which is gonna isolate people more than a mile or two from an
antenna (read 90% of rural america).  Had to change phones last
year because Verizon was dropping support from my Samsung Alias II
I've had for eons.
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

There is no reason to buy a modern car either.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I seem to recall something about installing 5 g radios or whatever you
> call them inside certain buildings, which woudl be the only way to get
> it inside.  Is there really a need to have more than 10-20mbps on a cell
> phone anyway?  I mean in the middle of most cities I get 30-60 and hit
> 133 today in Tulsa.  In other words, is there a reason I need to rush
> out to get the new iphone that is 5g capable?  I don't think so.
>
> On 12/15/2020 5:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > This is the great joke of 5G -- the only way to get the higher "5G"
> speed is to use the millimeter wavelength signal carrier (higher frequency,
> more data per second) that does not penetrate glass, wood, steel, or
> masonry.  Basically outside only, and no more than 500 ft from the antenna,
> as the signal degrades in the presence of water vapor too.
> >
> > You will only see 5G speeds when you are within 500 ft of a repeater,
> outside, and there isn't significant interference from another repeater.
> >
> > So in other words, 4LTE is what you will have forever in you car, inside
> any structure, or more than 500 ft from a millimeter wavelength repeater.
> >
> > Not going to happen, 5G is a classic case of 1) a solution is search of
> a problem and 2) vapor-ware that will never actually exist in usable form.
> >
> > Biggest issue with 5G is that everyone is dropping 1x coverage, which is
> gonna isolate people more than a mile or two from an antenna (read 90% of
> rural america).  Had to change phones last year because Verizon was
> dropping support from my Samsung Alias II I've had for eons.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I seem to recall something about installing 5 g radios or whatever you 
call them inside certain buildings, which woudl be the only way to get 
it inside.  Is there really a need to have more than 10-20mbps on a cell 
phone anyway?  I mean in the middle of most cities I get 30-60 and hit 
133 today in Tulsa.  In other words, is there a reason I need to rush 
out to get the new iphone that is 5g capable?  I don't think so.


On 12/15/2020 5:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

This is the great joke of 5G -- the only way to get the higher "5G" speed is to 
use the millimeter wavelength signal carrier (higher frequency, more data per second) 
that does not penetrate glass, wood, steel, or masonry.  Basically outside only, and no 
more than 500 ft from the antenna, as the signal degrades in the presence of water vapor 
too.

You will only see 5G speeds when you are within 500 ft of a repeater, outside, 
and there isn't significant interference from another repeater.

So in other words, 4LTE is what you will have forever in you car, inside any 
structure, or more than 500 ft from a millimeter wavelength repeater.

Not going to happen, 5G is a classic case of 1) a solution is search of a 
problem and 2) vapor-ware that will never actually exist in usable form.

Biggest issue with 5G is that everyone is dropping 1x coverage, which is gonna 
isolate people more than a mile or two from an antenna (read 90% of rural 
america).  Had to change phones last year because Verizon was dropping support 
from my Samsung Alias II I've had for eons.




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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

This is the great joke of 5G -- the only way to get the higher "5G" speed is to 
use the millimeter wavelength signal carrier (higher frequency, more data per 
second) that does not penetrate glass, wood, steel, or masonry.  Basically 
outside only, and no more than 500 ft from the antenna, as the signal degrades 
in the presence of water vapor too.

You will only see 5G speeds when you are within 500 ft of a repeater, outside, 
and there isn't significant interference from another repeater.

So in other words, 4LTE is what you will have forever in you car, inside any 
structure, or more than 500 ft from a millimeter wavelength repeater.

Not going to happen, 5G is a classic case of 1) a solution is search of a 
problem and 2) vapor-ware that will never actually exist in usable form.

Biggest issue with 5G is that everyone is dropping 1x coverage, which is gonna 
isolate people more than a mile or two from an antenna (read 90% of rural 
america).  Had to change phones last year because Verizon was dropping support 
from my Samsung Alias II I've had for eons.  




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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right 
>> next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
>> 
>> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the benefits 
>> across the board.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just 
>>> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is 
>>> in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in 
>>> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds what 
>>> are 5g speeds supposed to be?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Here you go:
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/12/14/2124229/heres-the-5g-glossary-every-american-is-apparently-going-to-need

Confused yet?

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 5:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right
> next to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.
>
> The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the
> benefits across the board.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just
> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is
> in the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in
> rural areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds what
> are 5g speeds supposed to be?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It also spreads the covids after bouncing the signals off chemtrails

--FT

On 12/15/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right next 
to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.

The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the benefits 
across the board.

-D


On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just tested 
my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is in the 
middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in rural areas 
where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds what are 5g speeds 
supposed to be?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

5G is very limited and practically line of sight, so if you’re not right next 
to a 5G node in a major city, you’re not going to see it.

The hype about 5G is just that. It will be years before we see the benefits 
across the board.

-D

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What are 5g speeds supposed to be? On my iPhone 11 with t mobile I just 
> tested my speed at 135mbps. This is about as high as I have seen. This is in 
> the middle of Tulsa. Most of the time I see maybe 30-40mbps, even in rural 
> areas where there is in good signal. If that is still LTE speeds what are 5g 
> speeds supposed to be?
> 
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