Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
On Wed, April 22, 2020 4:56 pm, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > A racket all day long that having triple pane glass would attenuate, were > it not bass loaded that it comes through the walls. Windows: double. Two double pane windows, one on the outside of the wall and one on the inside. Awesome insulation and very good sound attenuation. Walls: acoustic insulation. Sprayed in place foam preferred, blown in cellulose good enough. For bonus points in new construction, make a 6" wall with staggered 2x4s, so that the exterior sheathing and interior drywall aren't attached to the same hunk of wood. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
A concatenation of events which precluded making a more salubrious housing selection. Mostly having no knowledge of market/geography/socio-economic factors related to desirable neighborhoods within her price range. There was also a short time range in which she had to nail down purchase due to tax laws related to real estate investment exchanges. This was the best option given the steaming pile of dung the Anchorage market had at the time. Not to say the selection is any better now. Boom bust cycles around here have lots of inventory sitting in foreclosures, so, like with our cars, the things languish and decay before the banks get done with paperwork so the real estate can be put back on the market in a boom swing. Strangely, the fellow who owns The Alaska Mint (he just makes gold and silver coins and jewelry) has a spectacular home on a fly in lake a few blocks away, almost under the flight path of the cargo jets. Reminds me of a Russian oligarch Dacha or large chapel in the woods. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 22/04/2020 3:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: >> The cargo stuff is jumping. I am stuck at the south end of the runways, >> western window facing the flight path, as well as being right close enough >> to where the big (747, A380) spool up in the middle of the night. A racket >> all day long that having triple pane glass would attenuate, were it not bass >> loaded that it comes through the walls. >> >> This morning I watched UPS 747s lifting off for places far off. One after >> the other at close to three minute intervals streaming off 33R/15L. >> Watching them coming in is a hoot, as they seem to barely skim the tree tops >> or look to be flying through the birch boughs. >> >> >> clay >> > So, why did your wife choose a house in such a location? > > RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
And from here you can see exactly who they are and where they’re coming from or going to: https://www.flightradar24.com/61.44,-150.68/7 One thing that amazes me are the number of old airframes still in service, like MD-11s and L-1011s. -D > On Apr 22, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > The cargo stuff is jumping. I am stuck at the south end of the runways, > western window facing the flight path, as well as being right close enough to > where the big (747, A380) spool up in the middle of the night. A racket all > day long that having triple pane glass would attenuate, were it not bass > loaded that it comes through the walls. > > This morning I watched UPS 747s lifting off for places far off. One after > the other at close to three minute intervals streaming off 33R/15L. Watching > them coming in is a hoot, as they seem to barely skim the tree tops or look > to be flying through the birch boughs. > > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > >> On Apr 22, 2020, at 3:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I enjoy watching all of the cargo flights going in and out of ANC on >> FlightAware. It’s amazing how much cargo traffic there is back and forth to >> Asia. That place must be hopping in the overnight hours. >> >> A woman who I used to work with had a son who was a FedEx pilot. He said >> that when he bid on schedules, which they had to do every month, he had >> enough seniority to get the MEM-ANC flights, which gave him enough hours in >> just a few weeks to meet his monthly requirements in short order. >> >> -D >> >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 8:49 PM, Clay via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> There is still all the cargo airlines. UPS/Amazon/FedEx, as well as >>> international carriers with lots of space to move products instead of >>> people. Article in todays local news was about the steady increase in >>> cargo flights and massive reduction in people planes. There is constant >>> (50-90 plane) cargo volume (all the cheep chinee contaminated test kits and >>> PPE) vs around six passenger flights landing in the past 24 hours. Four >>> Alaska air flights instead of the normal few dozens. Delta had a single >>> flight, as did United. >>> >>> Tennessee and other cargo hubs must be seeing lots of volume and getting >>> inexpensive JetA that is not going into tourist flights. >>> >>> clay >>> >>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the > refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they > will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few > percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of > fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of > diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive > anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. > > Rick >>> >>> >>> clay >>> >>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
On 22/04/2020 3:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: The cargo stuff is jumping. I am stuck at the south end of the runways, western window facing the flight path, as well as being right close enough to where the big (747, A380) spool up in the middle of the night. A racket all day long that having triple pane glass would attenuate, were it not bass loaded that it comes through the walls. This morning I watched UPS 747s lifting off for places far off. One after the other at close to three minute intervals streaming off 33R/15L. Watching them coming in is a hoot, as they seem to barely skim the tree tops or look to be flying through the birch boughs. clay So, why did your wife choose a house in such a location? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
The cargo stuff is jumping. I am stuck at the south end of the runways, western window facing the flight path, as well as being right close enough to where the big (747, A380) spool up in the middle of the night. A racket all day long that having triple pane glass would attenuate, were it not bass loaded that it comes through the walls. This morning I watched UPS 747s lifting off for places far off. One after the other at close to three minute intervals streaming off 33R/15L. Watching them coming in is a hoot, as they seem to barely skim the tree tops or look to be flying through the birch boughs. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Apr 22, 2020, at 3:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I enjoy watching all of the cargo flights going in and out of ANC on > FlightAware. It’s amazing how much cargo traffic there is back and forth to > Asia. That place must be hopping in the overnight hours. > > A woman who I used to work with had a son who was a FedEx pilot. He said that > when he bid on schedules, which they had to do every month, he had enough > seniority to get the MEM-ANC flights, which gave him enough hours in just a > few weeks to meet his monthly requirements in short order. > > -D > >> On Apr 21, 2020, at 8:49 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: >> >> There is still all the cargo airlines. UPS/Amazon/FedEx, as well as >> international carriers with lots of space to move products instead of >> people. Article in todays local news was about the steady increase in cargo >> flights and massive reduction in people planes. There is constant (50-90 >> plane) cargo volume (all the cheep chinee contaminated test kits and PPE) vs >> around six passenger flights landing in the past 24 hours. Four Alaska air >> flights instead of the normal few dozens. Delta had a single flight, as did >> United. >> >> Tennessee and other cargo hubs must be seeing lots of volume and getting >> inexpensive JetA that is not going into tourist flights. >> >> clay >> >> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. >> >> >> >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, >>> either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… >>> >>> -D >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. Rick >> >> >> clay >> >> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
This link, to see further discussion / information of China / purchase of crude oil increase. https://thepatriothill.com/politics/2020/04/22/china-rejoices-while-oil-industry-collapses-as-a-result-of-chinese-virus/?utm_source=sprklst_campaign=americantruth-china-04_22-mid On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:44 PM G Mann wrote: > On the other hand, Due to record low crude oil prices, China is making > HUGE buys to fill their reserve capacity, which they have a lot of to > fill... > Clever those Chineese crash the world economies and oil > markets... then buy cheeep... > > Oil sales embargo anyone? ... Seems like a good idea... > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:31 PM Clay via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Last week it was the Canadian Dairy farmers tossing out thousands of >> gallons of milk each day. Supply and Demand and the need to maintain >> pricing. There is all manner of constipation coming in the food pipeline. >> Far too much Just in Time going on and not enough long term vision. >> >> Maybe dairies need to hook up with cheese makers and make lots of aged >> cheddar. Fruit leather instead of fresh food. Meat jerky over prime >> cuts. All the things preppers will need when the world shuts down and we >> are using ammo instead of coinage as part of the barter system. The small >> time pulp mill will need armed guards when it becomes Fort TP, competing >> with Fort Knox. >> >> Speaking of gold, prices are beginning to really climb. Prognosticators >> are expecting it to cross $3k/oz as other economic indicators drop through >> the basement. Probably based on the ability to mine fresh ore with a >> limited healthy crew on site, growing demand for portable and inflation >> proof investments, oil futures are not what they used to be. >> >> >> clay >> >> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. >> >> >> >> > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > On a similar note, a caller in Limbaugh said her spouse worked in a >> now-closed meat packing plant. With these plants closed, the farmers have >> no place to deliver adult hogs, no place to keep them (need the space for >> new crop), and can't afford to feed them. So these hogs are being >> destroyed. Aside from lost productivity (despite all the costs) this >> creates a hole in the meat pipeline. >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
On the other hand, Due to record low crude oil prices, China is making HUGE buys to fill their reserve capacity, which they have a lot of to fill... Clever those Chineese crash the world economies and oil markets... then buy cheeep... Oil sales embargo anyone? ... Seems like a good idea... On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:31 PM Clay via Mercedes wrote: > Last week it was the Canadian Dairy farmers tossing out thousands of > gallons of milk each day. Supply and Demand and the need to maintain > pricing. There is all manner of constipation coming in the food pipeline. > Far too much Just in Time going on and not enough long term vision. > > Maybe dairies need to hook up with cheese makers and make lots of aged > cheddar. Fruit leather instead of fresh food. Meat jerky over prime > cuts. All the things preppers will need when the world shuts down and we > are using ammo instead of coinage as part of the barter system. The small > time pulp mill will need armed guards when it becomes Fort TP, competing > with Fort Knox. > > Speaking of gold, prices are beginning to really climb. Prognosticators > are expecting it to cross $3k/oz as other economic indicators drop through > the basement. Probably based on the ability to mine fresh ore with a > limited healthy crew on site, growing demand for portable and inflation > proof investments, oil futures are not what they used to be. > > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On a similar note, a caller in Limbaugh said her spouse worked in a > now-closed meat packing plant. With these plants closed, the farmers have > no place to deliver adult hogs, no place to keep them (need the space for > new crop), and can't afford to feed them. So these hogs are being > destroyed. Aside from lost productivity (despite all the costs) this > creates a hole in the meat pipeline. > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Last week it was the Canadian Dairy farmers tossing out thousands of gallons of milk each day. Supply and Demand and the need to maintain pricing. There is all manner of constipation coming in the food pipeline. Far too much Just in Time going on and not enough long term vision. Maybe dairies need to hook up with cheese makers and make lots of aged cheddar. Fruit leather instead of fresh food. Meat jerky over prime cuts. All the things preppers will need when the world shuts down and we are using ammo instead of coinage as part of the barter system. The small time pulp mill will need armed guards when it becomes Fort TP, competing with Fort Knox. Speaking of gold, prices are beginning to really climb. Prognosticators are expecting it to cross $3k/oz as other economic indicators drop through the basement. Probably based on the ability to mine fresh ore with a limited healthy crew on site, growing demand for portable and inflation proof investments, oil futures are not what they used to be. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > On a similar note, a caller in Limbaugh said her spouse worked in a > now-closed meat packing plant. With these plants closed, the farmers have no > place to deliver adult hogs, no place to keep them (need the space for new > crop), and can't afford to feed them. So these hogs are being destroyed. > Aside from lost productivity (despite all the costs) this creates a hole in > the meat pipeline. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
I love the smell of marine diesel. Not sure I would have enjoyed coal/steam cruising. The NG powering of ships is a thing. One of the companies running cargo to AK is retrofitting their boats with giant LNG tanks. It must free up space in the hold for more of the heavy freight, as the tanks are pretty high on the stern. Really easy to target with an RPG were a terrorist so inclined. Even painted bright green, so they are visible from heights. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Apr 21, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > >> They are starting to run cruise ships on natural gas. > > That's good. I've never been on a cruise ship, but I talked to a > co-worker about it years ago. He had just returned from a cruise and I > asked him how it was. He said "it was two weeks of breathing diesel > exhaust and no way to get away from it" > > I've never been interested in a cruise since. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
I would agree with that. I have been on 6 or 7 and I don’t recall ever smelling anything except maybe when in port and the wind happens to blow a little bit of smell toward you. Nothing big though. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > They must have gone on a cut-rate lousy cruise. We've been on 3 and there > might be a wiff of diesel now and again when you're on deck but its very > occasional. > -Curt > >On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 1:28:48 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > >> They are starting to run cruise ships on natural gas. > > That's good. I've never been on a cruise ship, but I talked to a > co-worker about it years ago. He had just returned from a cruise and I > asked him how it was. He said "it was two weeks of breathing diesel > exhaust and no way to get away from it" > > I've never been interested in a cruise since. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
They must have gone on a cut-rate lousy cruise. We've been on 3 and there might be a wiff of diesel now and again when you're on deck but its very occasional. -Curt On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 1:28:48 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > They are starting to run cruise ships on natural gas. That's good. I've never been on a cruise ship, but I talked to a co-worker about it years ago. He had just returned from a cruise and I asked him how it was. He said "it was two weeks of breathing diesel exhaust and no way to get away from it" I've never been interested in a cruise since. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
ANC - Anchorage?? MEM - ?? On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:07 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I enjoy watching all of the cargo flights going in and out of ANC on > FlightAware. It’s amazing how much cargo traffic there is back and forth to > Asia. That place must be hopping in the overnight hours. > > A woman who I used to work with had a son who was a FedEx pilot. He said > that when he bid on schedules, which they had to do every month, he had > enough seniority to get the MEM-ANC flights, which gave him enough hours in > just a few weeks to meet his monthly requirements in short order. > > -D > > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 8:49 PM, Clay via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > There is still all the cargo airlines. UPS/Amazon/FedEx, as well as > international carriers with lots of space to move products instead of > people. Article in todays local news was about the steady increase in > cargo flights and massive reduction in people planes. There is constant > (50-90 plane) cargo volume (all the cheep chinee contaminated test kits and > PPE) vs around six passenger flights landing in the past 24 hours. Four > Alaska air flights instead of the normal few dozens. Delta had a single > flight, as did United. > > > > Tennessee and other cargo hubs must be seeing lots of volume and getting > inexpensive JetA that is not going into tourist flights. > > > > clay > > > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > > > > > >> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being > consumed, either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… > >> > >> -D > >> > >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later > the refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, > they will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few > percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of > fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of > diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive > anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. > >>> > >>> Rick > > > > > > clay > > > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
I enjoy watching all of the cargo flights going in and out of ANC on FlightAware. It’s amazing how much cargo traffic there is back and forth to Asia. That place must be hopping in the overnight hours. A woman who I used to work with had a son who was a FedEx pilot. He said that when he bid on schedules, which they had to do every month, he had enough seniority to get the MEM-ANC flights, which gave him enough hours in just a few weeks to meet his monthly requirements in short order. -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 8:49 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > There is still all the cargo airlines. UPS/Amazon/FedEx, as well as > international carriers with lots of space to move products instead of people. > Article in todays local news was about the steady increase in cargo flights > and massive reduction in people planes. There is constant (50-90 plane) > cargo volume (all the cheep chinee contaminated test kits and PPE) vs around > six passenger flights landing in the past 24 hours. Four Alaska air flights > instead of the normal few dozens. Delta had a single flight, as did United. > > Tennessee and other cargo hubs must be seeing lots of volume and getting > inexpensive JetA that is not going into tourist flights. > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > >> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, >> either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… >> >> -D >> >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the >>> refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they >>> will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few >>> percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of >>> fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of >>> diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive >>> anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. >>> >>> Rick > > > clay > > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
>With these plants closed, the farmers have no place >to deliver adult hogs, no >place to keep them (need >the space for new crop), and can't afford to feed >>them. So these hogs are being destroyed. Yep. Same for dairy products. And vegetables grown for restaurant use What's coming is going to be unrivaled in history. And every day it (the economic stoppage) continues, will make it (the coming recession) worse. Rick "We had to destroy the village to save it." ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
On a similar note, a caller in Limbaugh said her spouse worked in a now-closed meat packing plant. With these plants closed, the farmers have no place to deliver adult hogs, no place to keep them (need the space for new crop), and can't afford to feed them. So these hogs are being destroyed. Aside from lost productivity (despite all the costs) this creates a hole in the meat pipeline. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
There is still all the cargo airlines. UPS/Amazon/FedEx, as well as international carriers with lots of space to move products instead of people. Article in todays local news was about the steady increase in cargo flights and massive reduction in people planes. There is constant (50-90 plane) cargo volume (all the cheep chinee contaminated test kits and PPE) vs around six passenger flights landing in the past 24 hours. Four Alaska air flights instead of the normal few dozens. Delta had a single flight, as did United. Tennessee and other cargo hubs must be seeing lots of volume and getting inexpensive JetA that is not going into tourist flights. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, > either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… > > -D > >> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the >> refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they >> will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few percent >> in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of fuels >> adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of diesel fuel >> could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive anything by truck, >> will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. >> >> Rick clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
One advantage of bunker C is that at normal seagoing temperatures it's very, very viscous. That means it doesn't slop around in tanks. Also means it has to be heated to move it at any normal flow rate, it's really what's left after all the lighter stuff is distilled out, column bottoms is the other name. High ash content too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
I just bought 55 gallons of pure gasoline (at least no ethanol) at $1.479 per gallon. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:51 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > $1.27 at Walleyworld in Springdale, AR. > > Indexing for inflation, regular gas is now cheaper than it was in the 60s > at the height of the muscle car boom... > > -MMM- > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
You are correct. I was thinking about it relative to the refining aspect. Number 6 is Bunker C, and it has a BTU content of around 150,000 BTU/gallon, where Number 2 diesel is around 140,000 BTU/gallon. However, as previously noted, bunker fuel needs to be heated to be atomized whereas number 2 does not. -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:45 PM, fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Dan wrote: > >> Bunker fuel is about the bottom of the refining chain, as it’s >> about as close as you can get to crude. Very low BTU content, >> quite heavy, too, as I recall. > > Err, BTU content of bunker fuel is high. Higher than diesel. > > Though there are two ways of measuring - energy/volume or > energy/mass. Bunker C rates quite high on energy/volume as it is > dense. Propane rates much higher on energy/mass. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
> Dan wrote: > Bunker fuel is about the bottom of the refining chain, as it’s > about as close as you can get to crude. Very low BTU content, > quite heavy, too, as I recall. Err, BTU content of bunker fuel is high. Higher than diesel. Though there are two ways of measuring - energy/volume or energy/mass. Bunker C rates quite high on energy/volume as it is dense. Propane rates much higher on energy/mass. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
I seem to remember that the cruise lines are/were moving away from bunker fuel. I remember it being extra poisonous or something in case of a spill. Back in the late '90s Dad and I did a job for the railroad and got to watch them start a loco that had been sitting out in the cold. They had several HUGE propane burners attached to 100# tanks that sat in pipes that went through the fuel tank to melt the bunker fuel within so it could be started. IIRC it took several hours to get it warm enough to start. I remember them telling us why they started it there instead of hauling it to the shop but I don't remember the reason. -Curt On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 9:47:57 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Bunker fuel is about the bottom of the refining chain, as it’s about as close as you can get to crude. Very low BTU content, quite heavy, too, as I recall. -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Think of all the huge quantities of bunker fuel or whatever they call it that > all the cruise ships would be burning but are not currently. > > On 4/21/2020 5:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, >> either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… >> >> -D >> >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the >>> refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they >>> will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few >>> percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of >>> fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of >>> diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive >>> anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Why? The article was posted by the list mom himself, so I guess it's fair game for discussion here? Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > Take it to banned. > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:17 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The article is wrong on many levels. >> >> " The coronavirus is driving the huge dip in oil prices" is false. The >> economic crisis has been driven by our government mandating social >> distancing and shutting down "non-essential" activities, like churches and >> most businesses. Other countries (Sweden for instance) are not taking this >> approach, and so they have not cratered their economy. >> >> " The oil industry didn’t get the memo, though, and just kept digging up >> more oil." Very ignorant statement. Once a well is producing, one cannot >> simply shut it off. Oil doesn't come from a spigot. Oil is not "dug up", >> that is coal. >> >> " What all this points to is the need for government intervention and >> stat." Ah, now we have the true intent of the author: Use the crisis to >> increase government power. Nice. >> >> Now I remember why I stopped reading that site, it's almost all fake news >> and propaganda. >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> > Read this: >> > >> > >> > >> https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 >> > >> > -D >> > >> > > On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went >> > up and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > >> > >> On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas >> > that is >> > >> already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? >> > >> I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled >> > >> >> > >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug >> > >>> >> > >>> Sent from my iPhone >> > >>> ___ >> > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >>> >> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >>> >> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> OK Don >> > >> >> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> > >> >> > >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> > Wernher >> > >> Von Braun >> > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> > >> ___ >> > >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > ___ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Allan Streib Indiana University Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering Digital Science Center | Intelligent Systems Engineering | FutureSystems ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Gas turbine engines work very well. The ones the Navy uses in a frigate are reputed to drive like a speedboat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
>https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 The corona virus is doing absolutely nothing to the economy. Politicians, the media, and people's reaction to it is causing issues. I thought the article was summed up as a push for a carbon tax, now that oil prices are low. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > They are starting to run cruise ships on natural gas. That's good. I've never been on a cruise ship, but I talked to a co-worker about it years ago. He had just returned from a cruise and I asked him how it was. He said "it was two weeks of breathing diesel exhaust and no way to get away from it" I've never been interested in a cruise since. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Take it to banned. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 1:17 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The article is wrong on many levels. > > " The coronavirus is driving the huge dip in oil prices" is false. The > economic crisis has been driven by our government mandating social > distancing and shutting down "non-essential" activities, like churches and > most businesses. Other countries (Sweden for instance) are not taking this > approach, and so they have not cratered their economy. > > " The oil industry didn’t get the memo, though, and just kept digging up > more oil." Very ignorant statement. Once a well is producing, one cannot > simply shut it off. Oil doesn't come from a spigot. Oil is not "dug up", > that is coal. > > " What all this points to is the need for government intervention and > stat." Ah, now we have the true intent of the author: Use the crisis to > increase government power. Nice. > > Now I remember why I stopped reading that site, it's almost all fake news > and propaganda. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Read this: > > > > > > > https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 > > > > -D > > > > > On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went > > up and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas > > that is > > >> already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? > > >> I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled > > >> > > >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> OK Don > > >> > > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > >> > > >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > > Wernher > > >> Von Braun > > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
The article is wrong on many levels. " The coronavirus is driving the huge dip in oil prices" is false. The economic crisis has been driven by our government mandating social distancing and shutting down "non-essential" activities, like churches and most businesses. Other countries (Sweden for instance) are not taking this approach, and so they have not cratered their economy. " The oil industry didn’t get the memo, though, and just kept digging up more oil." Very ignorant statement. Once a well is producing, one cannot simply shut it off. Oil doesn't come from a spigot. Oil is not "dug up", that is coal. " What all this points to is the need for government intervention and stat." Ah, now we have the true intent of the author: Use the crisis to increase government power. Nice. Now I remember why I stopped reading that site, it's almost all fake news and propaganda. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Read this: > > > https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 > > -D > > > On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went > up and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> > >> Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas > that is > >> already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? > >> I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled > >> > >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> OK Don > >> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > >> > >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > >> Von Braun > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
They are starting to run cruise ships on natural gas. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think modern cruise ships burn diesel now. > > Bunker fuel was used in steam boilers. > > Between the declines in jet fuel (basically high-grade kerosene) and > shipping, I would guess there is plenty of diesel at least for the near > term. And it sounds like things will be opening up starting soon. > > Nobody's dying from overloaded hospitals or lack of ventilators, so > things should start opening up again (at least in a controlled way). > > Allan > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > >> Think of all the huge quantities of bunker fuel or whatever they call it >> that all the cruise ships would be burning but are not currently. >> >>> On 4/21/2020 5:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>> True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, >>> either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… >>> >>> -D >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. Rick > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
I think modern cruise ships burn diesel now. Bunker fuel was used in steam boilers. Between the declines in jet fuel (basically high-grade kerosene) and shipping, I would guess there is plenty of diesel at least for the near term. And it sounds like things will be opening up starting soon. Nobody's dying from overloaded hospitals or lack of ventilators, so things should start opening up again (at least in a controlled way). Allan Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > Think of all the huge quantities of bunker fuel or whatever they call it > that all the cruise ships would be burning but are not currently. > > On 4/21/2020 5:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, >> either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… >> >> -D >> >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the >>> refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they >>> will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few >>> percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of >>> fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of >>> diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive >>> anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. >>> >>> Rick >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
$1.27 at Walleyworld in Springdale, AR. Indexing for inflation, regular gas is now cheaper than it was in the 60s at the height of the muscle car boom... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, April 21, 2020 10:51 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Premium was $1.859 at Costco this morning. Sounds about right. 1.759 here, was 2.709 back in November. Best I can do without driving 35 miles to Costco is 1.909 at the Bellevue Marathon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yea that is probably correct. They burn craps loads of #2. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > Most of them use #2, not bunker. Bunker is a huge pain, has to be heated to > flow and makes a lot of smoke. Container ships use bunker C probably, it's > the cheapest > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Most of them use #2, not bunker. Bunker is a huge pain, has to be heated to flow and makes a lot of smoke. Container ships use bunker C probably, it's the cheapest ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Premium was $1.859 at Costco this morning. -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> but on 7 mile in Detroit I saw Gasbuddy prices as low as $0.849. > > And in my neck of the woods, it's more like $2.20 as of yesterday. Yet across > the border in Idaho it's about $1.60 or thereabouts. That difference is > almost > entirely the large difference in tax load between the two States. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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CL futures $2/bbl. Fill up that swimming pool! https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CL=F?p=CL=F Small tankers (ships not trucks) renting for $100k/day ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> but on 7 mile in Detroit I saw Gasbuddy prices as low as $0.849. And in my neck of the woods, it's more like $2.20 as of yesterday. Yet across the border in Idaho it's about $1.60 or thereabouts. That difference is almost entirely the large difference in tax load between the two States. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bunker fuel is about the bottom of the refining chain, as it’s about as close as you can get to crude. Very low BTU content, quite heavy, too, as I recall. -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Think of all the huge quantities of bunker fuel or whatever they call it that > all the cruise ships would be burning but are not currently. > > On 4/21/2020 5:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, >> either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… >> >> -D >> >>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the >>> refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they >>> will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few >>> percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of >>> fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of >>> diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive >>> anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Think of all the huge quantities of bunker fuel or whatever they call it that all the cruise ships would be burning but are not currently. On 4/21/2020 5:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… -D On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is no hard relationship between the daily price of oil, the futures price of oil, and the daily price of gasoline. Around Michigan and Ohio, the daily price of 87E10 has been around 25-35 cents in recent weeks, or around $0.85-1.00 with tax. I heard of 15 cent gas (wholesale pre-tax) in the Dakotas. Meanwhile, the May futures price of unleaded gasoline was around 70 cents before yesterday's crash, 58 cents now. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/RB=F?p=RB=F&.tsrc=fin-srch Cash price at the pump averages around 1.50-1.60 in Michigan, but on 7 mile in Detroit I saw Gasbuddy prices as low as $0.849. That's ended now, the cheapest non-club price in Michigan now is 0.949 at a BP in Fremont. (the Costco in Madison Heights is .849, and you can use a credit card, the .849 in Detroit two weeks ago was cash only) Here in Charlotte it's 1.499, which sounds highly profitable until you realize how much volume has dropped. They make a lot on every sale but they're selling a lot less. 10 miles down the road in Bellevue it's 1.209. The markup over wholesale is what it was before the crash. And there are a few places around Lansing that are under 1.25. Meanwhile, in Florida, 1.359 is as good as it gets. Oregon, 1.799. Aside from a 1.599 price war in Farmersville, 1.899 is the cheapest in California. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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True, and think of the huge volumes of jet fuel that aren’t being consumed, either. Lots of idle time at the refinery… -D > On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the > refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they will > cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few percent in > favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of fuels adjacent > to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of diesel fuel could > potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive anything by truck, will be > a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. > > Rick > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
I probably wrote this before, but it bears repeating. Sooner or later the refineries will run out of storage for gasoline. When that happens, they will cease production. The refining process can only be skewed a few percent in favor of diesel or gasoline. Depending on the consumption of fuels adjacent to diesel on the cracking spectrum, the availability of diesel fuel could potentially be interrupted. Which, if you receive anything by truck, will be a bit of a glitch in your supply chain. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep. I remember that from the early 00's On 4/20/2020 8:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Does anyone remember Peak Oil (King Hubbert)? On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:17 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: That's because fuel prices are unregulated. They can charge you whatever they please. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Pacific coast states tax the tar out of fuel. Last I looked, maybe Jim can fact check, the tax on fuel in WA was close to $0.60 or more. Kolifornia must be much worse, and Oregoon kept their fuel priced high, using the excuse they had to pay pump jockeys, as it is illegal (or was prior to WRD) to self pump. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Right. But when prices go up at the pump, they blame it on the oil prices > that just went up yesterday even though it will be months before that oil > reaches the pump. What will happen is the price at the pump is what it is > today. Then lets say in a week the price of oil goes up to $30. What do you > bet the price and the pump them goes up immediately and never dropped fuel to > a proper level. > > On 4/20/2020 7:58 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: >> Well, the fuel in the station was crude over a month ago, it wasn't priced >> at futures prices either. >> >> Oil FUTURES dropped into negative territory today. Delivered oil was >> something like $22 a barrel I think. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, the lag in pulling it from the ground to pouring it into your tank is not as fast as we all wish it were. As was pointed out in the articles, this is for delivery of oil in MAY. Ten days from now. The lock in for price, and having to have a place to stash it kicks in 4/21, so everybody wants out. Sort of like being on site not when Kaleb eats the burrito, but a few hours later. The product in the pumps most likely was sent to refinery at $50 bbl, if not more. Been sitting around in massive tanks waiting for somebody to use it, so room for more fuel can be had. No profit in giving fuel away, as the refiner would be underwater. Constipation ensues in the fuel production pipeline. The other painful part is that there will be a massive decline in employment in the industry. Well paying jobs that keep cities going. Oil field work is deemed essential. These jobs go away, and there will be town large and small that are not going to be able to support a wallyworld importing cheep chinee crap, let alone some local yahoo with a tastee freez. With the slow melting away of winter, I would gladly drive all the way to Colombia to make more room for oil. And now there will not be fleets of fresh off the line RVs being delivered up north along the Alcan, which would have consumed at least a tank a day on the trip up. Severe constipation with everybody backed up and unable to flow. Makes TP seem superfluous. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Apr 20, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes, and somebody on the refined end is making a killing. Either the gas > stations, distributors, or somebody is keeping gas prices way too high. > > On 4/20/2020 6:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Read this: >> >> https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 >> >> -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Does anyone remember Peak Oil (King Hubbert)? On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 9:17 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That's because fuel prices are unregulated. They can charge you whatever > they please. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's because fuel prices are unregulated. They can charge you whatever they please. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Right. But when prices go up at the pump, they blame it on the oil prices that just went up yesterday even though it will be months before that oil reaches the pump. What will happen is the price at the pump is what it is today. Then lets say in a week the price of oil goes up to $30. What do you bet the price and the pump them goes up immediately and never dropped fuel to a proper level. On 4/20/2020 7:58 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Well, the fuel in the station was crude over a month ago, it wasn't priced at futures prices either. Oil FUTURES dropped into negative territory today. Delivered oil was something like $22 a barrel I think. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Well, the fuel in the station was crude over a month ago, it wasn't priced at futures prices either. Oil FUTURES dropped into negative territory today. Delivered oil was something like $22 a barrel I think. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was thinking that as I read the article, the problem is that the price of refined product hasn't fallen anywhere near the way the price of crude has. Here gas has gone down maybe $0.50, say 20%. Diesel hasn't fallen more than $0.25, say 15%... -Curt On Monday, April 20, 2020, 8:26:45 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yes, and somebody on the refined end is making a killing. Either the gas stations, distributors, or somebody is keeping gas prices way too high. On 4/20/2020 6:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Read this: > > https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 > > -D > >> On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went up >> and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas that is >>> already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? >>> I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gas prices here seem to have gotten stuck. Seems like the gas stations don't really want to get far under $2. The local stations that have their special "club" price are $1.95, regular price $2.05.Diesel finally fell under $2.50, $2.45 this evening... As always its much slower for prices to fall than to rise. -Curt On Monday, April 20, 2020, 7:38:12 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, and somebody on the refined end is making a killing. Either the gas stations, distributors, or somebody is keeping gas prices way too high. On 4/20/2020 6:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Read this: https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 -D On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went up and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas that is already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
It is the fault of global warming.. While we are all shut down, the next ice age is happening... Next crisis will be we are all freezing and have no toilet paper... which is OK, because you can just break off the turd that froze solid instantly... In the interim, due to the extreme low cost of fuel, I will just leave all the Mercedes I have running, so they will stay warm, so the oil companies can pay me to help get rid of the glut of over produced oil. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 4:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Read this: > > > https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 > > -D > > > On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went > up and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> > >> Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas > that is > >> already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? > >> I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled > >> > >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> OK Don > >> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > >> > >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > >> Von Braun > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Read this: https://earther.gizmodo.com/what-the-actual-fuck-is-happening-with-oil-prices-right-1842966887 -D > On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went up > and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas that is >> already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? >> I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled >> >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Well when they jack up the price I’d gas the excuse is because oil went up and when they go to buy again to refill their tank it will cost more. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2020, at 6:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas that is > already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? > I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled > >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is gas not running about .25 per gallon?
Does the futures market for crude dictate the price of refined gas that is already in the under ground tanks today, or even tomorrow? I have a 55 gallon barrel that is about ready to be filled On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 6:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://apple.news/A6sbn3B7jTQ-la0nB4REhug > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
