server side playground

[Simon Lord]

I'd like to poke at running metacard as a service loading and testing 
.mc files etc.  Just to see what can be done reading and writing and 
displaying etc.  Where is the best place to find examples to start 
with?


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Re: Mouse Click

[Simon Lord]

I'm creating a small demo app using another application.  I was hoping 
to tap into MC's ability to take screen shots to augment the 
presentation by having it send a screehshot to the server with every 
mouseclick.  The server in turn does a lot more the the screen shot, 
but the point is to get a screenshot first.

The demo has nothing to do with MC or REV, I just want to run it in the 
BG as a service and have it pipe me the screenshots.  That said, at no 
time will the cursor ever be focused on the stack because MC in this 
case is not even part of the project (well, it is but not a visual 
part).

On Apr 5, 2005, at 12:17 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, Simon Lord  wrote:
I don't suppose there is any way to use MC or REV to detect a
mouseClick which happens on the host system is there?  What I'm trying
to do is grab a screen show when the mouse is clicked (as opposed to
using an interval which *does* work).
Wouldn't you want the click to take place on something related to your
stack?
Most screenshot apps I'm familiar with either use command key 
combinations
or a dedicated panel to manage the capture.  Maybe you can explain a 
bit
more about your setup.

Regards,
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Creative Director
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Mouse Click

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I don't suppose there is any way to use MC or REV to detect a 
mouseClick which happens on the host system is there?  What I'm trying 
to do is grab a screen show when the mouse is clicked (as opposed to 
using an interval which *does* work).

The MC or REV stack would be minimized, so it would not have any sort 
of focus.

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Rinaldi

[Simon Lord]

Does anyone know if Rinaldi has made any xcmd's for metacard/rev that 
can detect a mouseclick even though the mc/rev app is *not* focused?

Sorry for the shotgun posts.  Trying to get a bearing on what's 
possible.

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MouseLoc

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How can I get this to work:

put the screenmouseLoc into fld "curpos"

... if the mc app is minimized, IE it's *not* the currently focused app?

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Re: Background process

[Simon Lord]

I think I found it.  The rev docs talk about opening ftp sockets so 
I'll poke with that this weekend.

Thanks again!
On Mar 25, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Klaus Major wrote:
Hi Simon,
Thanks Klaus.  That works great.
Cool :-)
Now for the left-hook...
I need to save these files to a server.  So I'm guessing I need to 
ftp them there.  If there a way to send them over via some xmlsocket 
style connection where the *line* stays open?  I can see the ftp 
requests slowing things down having to open/close connections with 
each sent file.
Sorry, i am definitively not the socket expert...
Someone else please chime in :-)
Regards
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Re: Background process

[Simon Lord]

Thanks Klaus.  That works great.
Now for the left-hook...
I need to save these files to a server.  So I'm guessing I need to ftp 
them there.  If there a way to send them over via some xmlsocket style 
connection where the *line* stays open?  I can see the ftp requests 
slowing things down having to open/close connections with each sent 
file.



On Mar 25, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
Hi Simon,
It's been a while since I fired up MetaCard but I would like to do 
the following if possible...
Can I run a metacard exe (mac/pc - linux if possible) as a 
*background* process which takes screenshots every xNum of minutes?  
How would I do that?
Hmm, at least for the mac this would work, just tested :-)
on mouseUp
  send "doit" to me in 5 secs
end mouseUp
I clicked and switched to "Mail.app", so MC was in the "background"...
on doit
  export snapshot from rect (the screenrect) to file "sc1.jpg" as JPEG
end doit
I am sure you will figure out how to adopt this to your app...
If in doubt drop a line :-)
And then i found this nice and big (1600*1200) jpg in the 
defaultfolder...
You can set "the jpegquality" first if you like...

For OS X there might be a chance to put your app into the "background",
read no dock icon, by adding something to the "Info.plist"...
This is from Ken's wonderful and helpful RR page, i hope he won't 
mind...
Just for your convenience ;-)

Please bookmark:
http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Look for -> Developer Resources -> Revolution
##
Hiding a Process (Making a Backgrounded App)
(Mac OS X Only)
To hide an application process in OS X 10.2 and earlier, open the 
Info.plist file in the
Contents folder of the application package. Add this to the  
section (it doesn't seem to matter where):

NSBGOnly
1
 In OS X 10.3 and later, add this instead:
LSUIElement
1
 Doing this will remove the process from the Dock, and from any menus 
that list active (visible) processes.
To show it again, you can either put in a 0 instead of a 1 for the 
, or you can remove the whole thing.

Cross-posted from the SuperCard List
Updated 8/25/04 by Ken Ray from a tip posted by Devin Asay to the 
Use-Revolution list
###

Hope that helps...
Sincerely,
Simon
Regards from germany
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Background process

[Simon Lord]

It's been a while since I fired up MetaCard but I would like to do the 
following if possible...

Can I run a metacard exe (mac/pc - linux if possible) as a *background* 
process which takes screenshots every xNum of minutes?  How would I do 
that?

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Standalone icon

[Simon Lord]

My latest info explaining how to change the standalone icon to a custom 
one is over 4yrs old.  What's the current method used to set the 
standalone icon for OSX and PC?  I have my ico's etc ready to go.

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SFTP

[Simon Lord]

Does MetaCard/Rev support SFTP as well as FTP?  I'm running the MC IDE 
with the rev engine and was curious.  My provider doesn't allow FTP, 
only SFTP so I before I test something senseless I wanted to ask the 
list.

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webcolour slider

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I'm looking for a slider that can display webcolours (hex) in a fld as 
the user drags it along from end to end.

Anything like this out in the wild?
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Re: Fld image

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Thanks guys, this works great.
:)
On Dec 8, 2004, at 12:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See the imageSource property in the docs, Simon. Meanwhile, this may 
give
you a few ideas. Images are always positioned in-line...

To embed:
set the imageSource of char n of fld tFld to imageID
Fld script:
put the imagesource of the clickCharChunk into  theClickImageSource
switch theClickImageSource
case  imageID1
...
break
case  imageID2
...
break
end switch
/H
I have seen a few posts about embedding images into a text fld, but now
that I need to actually do this myself I'd like to know if any samples
or articles exist on the topic.
I need to embed an image into a fld  and have 2 or 3 lines of text
aligned to the right side of it (may need to  place two flds side by
side?).  The crux here though is to make the  images clickable.
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is prime

[Simon Lord]

Is there a function or command to tell me if a selected line of a fld 
is a prime number?  For example, a user selects line 3 of a fld, I'd 
like a true or false result to appear in the message box if that number 
is prime or not.  Or do I need to write a little function myself as no 
such feature exists?

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Fld image

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I have seen a few posts about embedding images into a text fld, but now 
that I need to actually do this myself I'd like to know if any samples 
or articles exist on the topic.

I need to embed an image into a fld and have 2 or 3 lines of text 
aligned to the right side of it (may need to place two flds side by 
side?).  The crux here though is to make the images clickable.

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Re: Replacing carriage returns

[Simon Lord]

Oh wait, I was still trying this:

replace return with "new word" in line 1 of fld "testCode"
Your code DID work:

replace return with "new word" in fld "testCode"
I'll see if this works (not sure I want to *globally* do this all at once).

THANKS!




On Dec 5, 2004, at 11:31 PM, Simon Lord wrote:

Nothing.  Tried that earlier (and again for good measure).


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Re: Replacing carriage returns

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Nothing.  Tried that earlier (and again for good measure).


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Replacing carriage returns

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The following is not working for me, anyone got something that does?
replace "\r" with "new word" in line 1 of fld "testCode"
... I'm just trying to purge all carriage returns from a field of text.
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find something, return false?

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I'm trying to find a simple word in a field.
--> find string "link" in fld "EmbeddedIndexTemplate"
... works like a charm.  It finds and highlights the word for me.  But 
if I ask for the result it returns empty.

--> if the result is empty then beep
... am I using this correctly?  MC 2.5.1
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Re: filename

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Yeah, under the 2.5 engine though it still seems to create the "could 
not open image" error if I use *empty* or "".  Sorry, I neglected to 
mention that in my first post.

On Nov 23, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, Simon Lord wrote:
I thought we could set the filename of an image to *none*.  Appears we
can't.  Correct?
set the filename of img "sample" to none
... simple complains that it cannot find that image (IE, image 
*none*).
What's the correct or alternate way of doing this?
Use either "empty" (no quotes) or "".
Regards,
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filename

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I thought we could set the filename of an image to *none*.  Appears we 
can't.  Correct?

set the filename of img "sample" to none
... simple complains that it cannot find that image (IE, image *none*). 
 What's the correct or alternate way of doing this?

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Re: Proportional scaling

[Simon Lord]

Uber Danka.  :)
On Sep 21, 2004, at 1:52 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Simon Lord wrote:
I have an object on my card which can be scaled at runtime, the next 
step is to get this object to scale proportionally using it's current 
H x W as the aspect ratio when the shiftKey is down.

So if the object is currently shaped like a rectangle, when I hold 
the shiftKey down and continue dragging the object will maintain the 
same aspect ratio at the time I held the shiftKey down.

Unfortunately I'm at a lose at to where to even start the math on 
this.

Sincerely,
Simon

Hello Simon,
The following may not match exactly your expectations, but is maybe a 
starting point.

I have a "zoom" script on card "slideshow" of my stack "Slideshow 
Light", 82 KB (formerly to be found in Rev's User Contributions, now 
on my website <http://www.sanke.org>, English version, page "Sample 
Stacks").

From the short description:
"Slideshow allowing JPG-, GIF-, PNG- and BMP-images. Preview and 
re-ordering possible. Different display sizes can be set. Zoom 
function; adjusting of display duration during show."

This zoom function does not change the images continuously, but sets 
the new size - with the correct aspect ratio - after the dragging of 
the scrollbar thumb has finished. I also had a continuously changing 
version of such a zoom, but for some reason did not implement it in 
this slideshow stack.

 Examples from the scripts
to put the aspect ratio into Var "Proportion":
  "set the numberformat to 0.00
  put the formattedheight of image 1 into FHoehe
  put the formattedwidth of image 1 into FBreite
  put FBreite / FHoehe into Proportion"
script of the zoom scrollbar (assumes there are two extra scrollbars - 
that become visible when needed - to navigate inside the enlarged 
image):

"global Proportion, Stelle
local Neuhoehe, Neubreite
on scrollbardrag x
  put x into Neuhoehe
  put Neuhoehe * Proportion into NeuBreite
  put trunc(Neubreite) into Neubreite
  put NeuBreite&&"X"&&Neuhoehe into fld "Rechteck"
end scrollbardrag
on mouseup
  set the cursor to watch
  lock screen
  set the height of image 1 to Neuhoehe
  set the width of image 1 to NeuBreite
  set the loc of  image 1 to 512,384
  if NeuBreite > 1024 then
put (Neubreite - 1024) div 2 into BreitDiff
set the Startvalue of scrollbar "horizontal" to -Breitdiff
set the Endvalue of scrollbar "horizontal" to Breitdiff
show scrollbar "Horizontal"
  else
hide scrollbar "horizontal"
  end if
  if Neuhoehe > 768 then
put (Neuhoehe - 768) div 2 into HoehDiff
set the Startvalue of scrollbar "vertical" to -Hoehdiff
set the Endvalue of scrollbar "vertical" to Hoehdiff
show scrollbar "vertical"
  else
hide scrollbar "vertical"
  end if
  set the thumbpos of scrollbar "vertical" to 0
  set the thumbpos of scrollbar "horizontal" to 0
  put the 512,384 into Stelle
  set the cursor to hand
end mouseup"
Maybe this helps, if not - discard it.
Regards,
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Re: Proportional scaling

[Simon Lord]

This would only work for an object who's height and width are the same. 
 Objects like a rectangle on it's side will get wider at a faster rate 
than they will get taller.  That's where the math kinda runs away from 
me (and when fond memories of me doodling in 6th grade math come to 
mind).


On Sep 21, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Ray Horsley wrote:
Simon,
Wouldn't this be just a matter of making sure you increase or decrease 
the object's width the same number of pixels its height is increased 
or decreased for every change in size that's made, or am I not 
understanding your question?

Ray Horsley
Developer, LinkIt! Software
On Monday, September 20, 2004, at 02:46  PM, Simon Lord wrote:
I have an abject on my card which can be scaled at runtime, the next 
step is to get this object to scale proportionally using it's current 
H x W as the aspect ratio when the shiftKey is down.

So if the object is currently shaped like a rectangle, when I hold 
the shiftKey down and continue dragging the object will maintain the 
same aspect ratio at the time I held the shiftKey down.

Unfortunately I'm at a lose at to where to even start the math on 
this.

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Proportional scaling

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I have an abject on my card which can be scaled at runtime, the next 
step is to get this object to scale proportionally using it's current H 
x W as the aspect ratio when the shiftKey is down.

So if the object is currently shaped like a rectangle, when I hold the 
shiftKey down and continue dragging the object will maintain the same 
aspect ratio at the time I held the shiftKey down.

Unfortunately I'm at a lose at to where to even start the math on this.
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Re: Can't Delete Directory

[Simon Lord]

One of those little annoyances; if I run the command "delete directory 
myPath" where myPath is a perfectly valid path to a folder on the 
local hard disk, I get the result "can't delete that file".  Any ideas 
anyone?

   Using: Metacard 2.5 on Mac OSX 10.2.8
First thing that comes to mind is permissions.  Who are you running 
metacard as and who owns the rights to the folder?  What rights was the 
folder set with?

I haven't tried it myself, I'm just pointing out the uber obvious.
Thanks,
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Re: Vector data

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I figured.  It works now, only issue is the sort order happens to be 
backwards so when everything gets drawn it appears upsidedown.

I'll keep poking at it, seems to be doing something.  :)
On Jul 19, 2004, at 3:41 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
on Mon, 19 Jul 2004
Simon Lord wrote:
I own both Freehand and Illustrator,
I use Freehand to work in and
Illustrator to import my work and save as .ai for
certain clients.
[snip]
I'm saving as Illustrator version 7 (eps) **from**
within Illustrator
but I'm getting thrown errors with the eps
importer.  Trying different things until something
works...
Probably is my fault to call this handler "EPS
import", because in fact it imports the AI file format
that is a subset of the full featured EPS format.
Try to export to Illustrator version 7 from
Macromedia FreeHand. (not .eps, but .ai)
If possible, i'll like to download the AI test file
that you are importing to metacard.
Post it compressed as zip in a web or ftp link.
Do you find in the "Read me" about the
differences between ilustrator and metacard
vector formats?
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Re: Vector data

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I own both Freehand and Illustrator, I use Freehand to work in and 
Illustrator to import my work and save as .ai for certain clients.  
Working in Illustrator is near impossible for me, the concepts and 
workflow are a55 backwards...

I'm saving as Illustrator version 7 (eps) **from** within Illustrator 
but I'm getting thrown errors with the eps importer.  Trying different 
things until something works...

On Jul 19, 2004, at 2:07 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
on Mon, 19 Jul 2004
Simon Lord
Ok, found the EPS import stack from Alejandro, the
only issue now is
how can I scale the imported data to fit a specific
area in my project?
In the same website, you could download a stack
named: graphic_transmormations_01.zip
By the way, Freehand files are compressed binary
data. Could you use the Adobe Ilustrator format?
I have posted there a handler to export vector
graphics as Adobe ilustrator too. You have to
look in the RR mail list to get the
exact download direction.
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Re: Vector data

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Exporting to SVG is an option for me, is RevNet part of the Revolution 
website?

On Jul 19, 2004, at 1:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Simon Lord wrote:
Back in the day I was able to export vector data to SuperCard by 
saving as the PICT2 format.  This gave me the ability to import and 
print vector information from SuperCard for certain projects which 
was very handy.
Now I find myself requiring the same thing of MetaCard.  I have a 
variety of vector files in Freehand that need to find there way into 
the stack and retain their vector data (else it looses the high res 
printing advantage).
Anyone have a solution to this?  I seem to remember a post saying we 
could import EPS somehow.
Only on Unix systems, if I understand correctly.  Would be very cool 
to have that for all platforms.

I have a simple example of how to export objects to SVG available in 
RevNet.

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Re: Vector data

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Ok, found the EPS import stack from Alejandro, the only issue now is 
how can I scale the imported data to fit a specific area in my project? 
 Been awhile since I've done that, I think we have to do this by script 
correct?

On Jul 19, 2004, at 10:32 AM, Simon Lord wrote:
Back in the day I was able to export vector data to SuperCard by 
saving as the PICT2 format.  This gave me the ability to import and 
print vector information from SuperCard for certain projects which was 
very handy.

Now I find myself requiring the same thing of MetaCard.  I have a 
variety of vector files in Freehand that need to find there way into 
the stack and retain their vector data (else it looses the high res 
printing advantage).

Anyone have a solution to this?  I seem to remember a post saying we 
could import EPS somehow.

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[Simon Lord]

Back in the day I was able to export vector data to SuperCard by saving 
as the PICT2 format.  This gave me the ability to import and print 
vector information from SuperCard for certain projects which was very 
handy.

Now I find myself requiring the same thing of MetaCard.  I have a 
variety of vector files in Freehand that need to find there way into 
the stack and retain their vector data (else it looses the high res 
printing advantage).

Anyone have a solution to this?  I seem to remember a post saying we 
could import EPS somehow.

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Re: Will Supercard 2.3b1 run on Windows XP?

[Simon Lord]

Where are you going with this question?  I bet you meant to say 
MetaCard 2.3b1 right?  I've been running MetaCard 2.3 to 2.5 on my XP 
box without any issues to date.

As for SuperCard, the last version I used was version 3.0.1 from 
Allegiant back in 1996 and was (still is I believe) - MAC only.

RIP SuperEdit.
On Jul 15, 2004, at 9:34 AM, John Ranck, D.M.A. wrote:
We have the Supercard release 2.3b1 and are migrating to Windows XP 
computers. Will this release of Supercard run on XP?

Many thanks.
JR
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Re: String comparison

[Simon Lord]

Got it.
answer replaceText(fullPATH, sessionPATH, "")

On Jun 30, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Simon Lord wrote:
I have two strings, file paths actually.  Both path names are the same 
for the first ~5 directories, then the rest is what I'm actually 
interested in.

My questions is, how can I compare string "A" to string "B" and get 
the difference?

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String comparison

[Simon Lord]

I have two strings, file paths actually.  Both path names are the same 
for the first ~5 directories, then the rest is what I'm actually 
interested in.

My questions is, how can I compare string "A" to string "B" and get the 
difference?

Sincerely,
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HTML Colors

[Simon Lord]

How can I turn 0,0,0 into #00 or 255,255,255 into #FF?  Anyone 
have the secret for converting rgb to webcolors?

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line thickness

[Simon Lord]

I remember being able to alter the thickness of a grc's line via 
script.  I'm NOT referring to the outline as a whole but actually 
manipulating the top, left, right and bottom thickness individually.  
But it's been so long that my way-back machine might actually be 
picking up memories of SuperCard.

Can this be done in MetaCard?
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Editing groups

[Simon Lord]

I'd like to use a group as a mask object.  That way when objects are 
dragged they are clipped at the edge of the group unlike the current 
situation whereby the object can be dragged willy nilly over the 
interface.

My question is how can we choose the image tool and draw an image in 
the group during runtime?  I remember doing this years ago but have 
since lost that stack.

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Rev question

[Simon Lord]

A couple of things...
1) If I buy Rev, how do I assure myself I can keep the MC IDE?  I have 
not actually seen screenshots or a download link.  Then again, I 
haven't been part of the list in almost 2 years so I'm a little out of 
date.

2) Does Rev support the *brushed aluminium* look in OSX with the 
rounded corners?

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Re: Resize aspect

[Simon Lord]

Thanks!  This is a great launch board to start from.

On Jun 13, 2004, at 2:52 AM, Brian Yennie wrote:
Simon,
How about something like this:
1) When you create a new stack, set a couple of properties of the 
stack to remember what size it wants to be:

set the actualHeight of this stack to (11*72)   ## 11 inches at 72DPI
set the actualWidth of this stack to (17*72)## 17 inches at 72DPI
set the zoomPercent of this stack to 100   ## start viewing at 100%
2) Ditto for objects- you want to remember what size they _want_ to be 
as accurately as possible (if you just translate each time, 
cumulatively, you'll probably notice them start to drift)

ex:
on newButton
   set the actualHeight of the target to (the height of the target * 
100 / the zoomPercent of this stack)
   set the actualWidth of the target to (the width of the target * 100 
/ the zoomPercent of this stack)
   set the actualLeft of the target to (the left of the target * 100 / 
the zoomPercent of this stack)
   set the actualTop of the target to (the top of the target * 100 / 
the zoomPercent of this stack)
end newButton

3) Create a simple handler which resizes the stack itself and you can 
call when needed:

on zoomLayout toPercent
   set the zoomPercent of this stack to toPercent
   get the rect of this stack
   put (item 2 of it +  round(the actualHeight of this stack * 
toPercent / 100)) into item 4 of it
   put (item 1 of it +  round(the actualWidth of this stack * 
toPercent / 100)) into item 3 of it
   set the rect of this stack to it
end zoomLayout

4) Catch the resizeStack handler to fix your objects:
on resizeStack newWidth, newHeight, oldWidth, oldHeight
   repeat with i=1 to (number of cd parts)
  put the actualLeft of cd part i * (the zoomPercent of this stack 
/ 100) into newLeft
  put the actualTop of cd part i * (the zoomPercent of this stack 
/ 100) into newTop
  put the actualHeight of cd part i * (the zoomPercent of this 
stack / 100) into newHeight
  put the actualWidth of cd part i * (the zoomPercent of this 
stack / 100) into newWidth
  set the rect of cd part i to 
(round(newLeft)&comma&round(newTop)&comma&round(newLeft + 
newWidth)&comma&round(newTop + newHeight))
   end repeat
end resizeStack

All of this (with some work I'm sure, this is off the top of my head) 
should buy you fairly reasonable resizing, although you probably won't 
achieve ultra-accurate layout by nature of the beast- Rev isn't vector 
graphics nor able to store higher zoomable resolutions for you to 
maintain in the background when someone is zoomed out. When the user 
is working at 800x600 pixels, newly created objects are going to be 
limited by the available pixels and when you zoom way back out, you 
might get nudged slightly by rounding inconsistencies.

If you need finer alignment, you might consider other tactics, such as 
allowing objects to be aligned horizontally / vertically and carefully 
honoring that when zooming, etc. But the above approach should give 
reasonable results.

You might also investigate the Rev geometry manager for inspiration...
HTH

Hi all, I want to throw out the following question to see if anyone 
has a stack already done that can do the following...

My stack allows users to create a layout using template objects that 
fit the printed page.  However, some users don't have monitor that 
can display the full resolution, and 11 x 17 layouts are near 
impossible for most.

So I'm looking to make a stack that can resize all objects on a card 
*proportionally* to fit the new stack size (for example, a user wants 
to scale the stack down to 77% because that's all that fits on his 
viewable screen space).  But it will always be an aspect ratio 
proportionate to the layout they are working on.  That way when it 
comes time to print (or preview a print) I can scale everything to 
100%.

Or is there another way?
Sincerely,
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Resize aspect

[Simon Lord]

Hi all, I want to throw out the following question to see if anyone has 
a stack already done that can do the following...

My stack allows users to create a layout using template objects that 
fit the printed page.  However, some users don't have monitor that can 
display the full resolution, and 11 x 17 layouts are near impossible 
for most.

So I'm looking to make a stack that can resize all objects on a card 
*proportionally* to fit the new stack size (for example, a user wants 
to scale the stack down to 77% because that's all that fits on his 
viewable screen space).  But it will always be an aspect ratio 
proportionate to the layout they are working on.  That way when it 
comes time to print (or preview a print) I can scale everything to 
100%.

Or is there another way?
Sincerely,
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properties

[Simon Lord]

How can I read the properties of an object?  I thought all we had to do 
was:

get the properties of btn 1
answer it
... and that would show me the array of items of properties set on that 
btn.  But it returns empty for anything I try to get properties for.

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set the rect...

[Simon Lord]

Can we set the rect of two objects at the same time?  I have a group 
object which is overlayed onto another object, this symbiotic 
relationship is not permanent and the grp overlay is applicable to most 
elements in my stack.

So to cut down on code I was hoping we could "set the rect of gGRP && 
gIMG to rectVal".  But this does not seem to work obviously, but it 
seems like a very plausible scenario.

Can it be done?
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Intersect

[Simon Lord]

Ahhh, "if within...", it's all coming back to me now. :)
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Intersect

[Simon Lord]

Was there not a way to detect "on mouseMove" if the cursor had rolled 
over a target such as an img or fld?

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Format question

[Simon Lord]

I have a tricky issue where I want to run a script to remove double 
spaces in the script of an object but not damage any code which is 
actually injecting it into something.  To be clear, I want the 
following:

set the visible   of image "monkey"  to   true
... to look like this:
set the visible of image "monkey" to true
... but what i don't want to do is affect any code trying to do 
something with spaces.  For instance:

put "Hellothere" into fld 1
... depending on how many times I run my code to clean the extra spaces 
between words this script can end up looking like this:

put "Hellothere" into fld 1
So I guess what I'm saying is I don't want to affect spaces between 
quotes.

Any ideas?
Sincerely,
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Re: Split

[Simon Lord]

Helps big time.  Thanks very much for the clarification.

On Jun 2, 2004, at 1:56 AM, Ken Ray wrote:
 is "primary delimiter" (and  is "secondary delimiter").
Here's a simple example where you can take a list of people's names 
and put
them into a numerically indexed array:

put "Ken,Simon,Richard,Harry" into tPeople
split tPeople using ","
-- tPeople is now an array that holds 4 elements
put tPeople[1]  -- puts "Ken"
put tPeople[2]  -- puts "Simon"
put tPeople[3]  -- puts "Richard"
put tPeople[4]  -- puts "Harry"
HTH,
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To: MetaCard
Subject: Split
I'd like to learn a little about how Metacard's split
function works.
I tried reading the reference stack but I'm unsure about what
it means
to split a variable *using *.
What's ?
If the responder can provide a real-world sample it'd be much
appreciated.
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Re: Split

[Simon Lord]

Whoops, I thought we could split a fld directly without having to place 
it into a variable.  Ok, so i think I have it working and tested a 
paragraph of text using " " to split the text and place it into a 
second fld.

This worked, but curiously the paragraph which was combined using "#" 
appears to be scrambled afterwards.  This is an unexpected event.  Any 
reason for the words in the paragraph to randomize their location when 
a combine is used?


On Jun 2, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Simon Lord wrote:
I'd like to learn a little about how Metacard's split function works.  
I tried reading the reference stack but I'm unsure about what it means 
to split a variable *using *.

What's ?
If the responder can provide a real-world sample it'd be much 
appreciated.

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Split

[Simon Lord]

I'd like to learn a little about how Metacard's split function works.  
I tried reading the reference stack but I'm unsure about what it means 
to split a variable *using *.

What's ?
If the responder can provide a real-world sample it'd be much 
appreciated.

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Re: Flash swfs

[Simon Lord]

Not sure about a dll, I would need it to be a little more officially 
supported for Mac, PC and Linux like Flash is right now.  All my work 
is not streamed via the web so I do very little work in MetaCard 
anymore, it's all Flash and FlashComm Server.

But being able to build my projects in MetaCard with embedded Flash 
files would be so much easier than creating the entire application in 
Flash.  Flash is just not geared towards building interfaces in a 
timely manner.

Too bad the browser plugins are not compatible with any application.

On May 10, 2004, at 5:55 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

on Mon, 10 May 2004
Simon Lord wrote:
Yeah, that only takes care of half the features.
Quicktime does a good
job at playing swfs which were made using the
timeline to generate
animation.  Any interaction you normally see if just
a hotspot pointing
to a new location on that timeline.
Click and go interaction... with the advantage of
having cached already the destination frame.
something that web browsers still could not do.
However, when coding directly in ActionScript and
NOT using the
timeline at all it fails to run in Quicktime - thus
fails in MetaCard.
I do not think that the Quicktime developer team
could keep the fast pace of the Macromedia Flash
developer team. :-(
Flash and MetaCard each have drawbacks, but combined
they make for an
extremely powerful tool.  Or *would* have made for a
powerful tool if
it was directly supported as an object that could be
embedded and played.
Simon, for the platform Neobook does exist a dll
that put a flash movie into the neobooks projects.
Check this link:

http://www.flashnpack.com/neobook/

This russian developer have a lot of experience with
the Macromedia Flash format:
http://www.unhsolutions.net/Flash-Saving-Plugin/index.shtml

Do we start a poll to know how many developers
will use Flash in their projects?
If there are many of us, maybe we could raise
an initial good sum of money to contract one of
these developers to create a dll for RR/MC.
He could keep the source code and keep selling it
to more RR/MC developers.
I put a tag price of $50.00 dollars for an individual
unlimited commercial use of this dll.
What do you think simon?

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Re: Flash swfs

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Yeah, that only takes care of half the features.  Quicktime does a good 
job at playing swfs which were made using the timeline to generate 
animation.  Any interaction you normally see if just a hotspot pointing 
to a new location on that timeline.

However, when coding directly in ActionScript and NOT using the 
timeline at all it fails to run in Quicktime - thus fails in MetaCard.  
That sucks.

Flash and MetaCard each have drawbacks, but combined they make for an 
extremely powerful tool.  Or *would* have made for a powerful tool if 
it was directly supported as an object that could be embedded and 
played.  Anyhow, I didn't really expect it to be supported, was just 
hoping it was.

Thanks!



On May 9, 2004, at 6:28 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Simon,

Does RunRev support embedding Flash movies into projects directly?
Not tested, but you should be able to import a swf-file and play with:
play vc "flush.swf"
But unfortunately only with quicktime installed.

Hope that helps...

Sincerely,
Simon
Regards

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Flash swfs

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Does RunRev support embedding Flash movies into projects directly?

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MC to Rev upgrade

[Simon Lord]

What's the deal with the free upgrade from MC to the current revolution 
version?

I remember when RR took over there was some deal in place that allowed 
current MC users to upgrade to their Enterprise version but only at the 
end of your current MC license or something.

Sorry to sound so confusing, I just want to make sure I don't miss that 
upgrade path.

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Re: Metacard support

[Simon Lord]

To use the current version of the engine with the MC IDE you need to 
go to
runrev.com and download a package named "Revolution".  You can rename 
it to
anything you like, but for communicating with the community as a whole 
it
may be less confusing to just use its current name.
I guess this would seem logical due to the new ownership (if not out of 
respect for Revolution - it's their right).  But I have to wonder about 
all the people out there that have used HyperCard and SuperCard or 
XTalk and never heard of MetaCard.

I switched from HyperCard to SuperCard v1.5 when I saw the name (plus 
SC supported colour, BONUS!).  Then I moved to MetaCard v1 because I 
was working on an SGI (and I saw an engineer at the company using it, 
that's how I saw the name MetaCard and nearly died of joy), now I 
program in Flash because I need full browser support (and it has an exe 
and works on Linux and SGI so I'm covered).  I still use MetaCard 2.5 
to build my custom XML creation tool which feeds Flash it's data, but 
will move that to PHP in the near future.  I'm sure I'll be using MC 
2.5 for some time to come.

RIP MetaCard, you and I had a good ~11 year run together...

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Re: Movie Controller

[Simon Lord]

Works like a dream.  Thanks!

On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Simon,

I had once made a movie controller for a project done in MC, but it  
was s long ago I cannot even remember which one it was done for.

I'm looking to make a stack that can play mpg movies on mac, sgi and  
windows.  The controller needs to do a few things:

1) Display the timecode
2) Play/Pause/Restart buttons
3) Controller to jog through movie (but also moves as movie plays)
check this old stack of mine:

Custom Controller for Players v1.0

You find it on:

http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/ 
usercontributions.html

waaay down the page :-)

It will cover line 2 and 3 of your wish-list ;-)

Since it is created with custom images/graphics it will look the same  
on all platforms :-)

For line 3:
I also made a "smpte_lite" function a long time ago.
Wait a minute, i will check my archieves...
(5 looong minutes later...)

Found it! (...he said with clouds of dust floating around his head,  
hands and shoulders... :-)
Cough, cough..., will only handle minutes and seconds, but no, cough,  
frames...
Did not need this kind of "accuratèsse" ;-)

function smpte_lite dauer1,ts
  ## duration1, TimeScale
  set the numberformat to xx
  ## force a leading 0, if necessary...
  put dauer1 div 60 into minu
  put dauer1 mod 60 into seku
  return "00" & ":" & minu & ":" & seku
end smpte_lite
And this in the "start" button of the player:

on mouseUp
  if the duration of player 1 = 0 then exit mouseup
  ## No movie set yet...
  ## will also prevent "divide by 0" errors :-)
  put round(duration of player 1/the timescale of player 1) into gesamt
  put the timescale of player 1 into ts
  set the paused of player 1 to not the paused of player 1
  ## ON/OFF
  diezeit gesamt, ts
end mouseUp
on diezeit gesamt, ts ## the time :-)
  if the paused of player 1 then exit diezeit
  put round(the currenttime of player 1/ts) into jetzt ##now
  put round(gesamt - jetzt) into restzeit ## remaining time
  put "Current :" & TAB & smpte_lite(jetzt) & cr & "Remaining :" & TAB  
& smpte_lite(restzeit) into fld "zeit"
  send "diezeit" to me in 1 secs
end diezeit

You get the picture...

Hope that helps.

Regards

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Are you the S.L. that i know somehow from my SuperCard days? :-)
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Re: Movie Controller

[Simon Lord]

Oh, and these controllers need to look identical across all the 3 
platforms...

On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 10:15 AM, Simon Lord wrote:

I had once made a movie controller for a project done in MC, but it 
was s long ago I cannot even remember which one it was done for.

I'm looking to make a stack that can play mpg movies on mac, sgi and 
windows.  The controller needs to do a few things:

1) Display the timecode
2) Play/Pause/Restart buttons
3) Controller to jog through movie (but also moves as movie plays)
That's about it.  It took forever to get that done when I made it.  I 
imagine that there are better methods and tools provided to do what 
little I need.  If anyone has a sample stack I'd love to see it.

Thanks.

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Movie Controller

[Simon Lord]

I had once made a movie controller for a project done in MC, but it was 
s long ago I cannot even remember which one it was done for.

I'm looking to make a stack that can play mpg movies on mac, sgi and 
windows.  The controller needs to do a few things:

1) Display the timecode
2) Play/Pause/Restart buttons
3) Controller to jog through movie (but also moves as movie plays)
That's about it.  It took forever to get that done when I made it.  I 
imagine that there are better methods and tools provided to do what 
little I need.  If anyone has a sample stack I'd love to see it.

Thanks.

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Re: Drawers

[Simon Lord]

I haven't tried this yet (I may have back during the beta), but can you 
tell me if this works on all platforms or is this an OSX only thing?

On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 01:57 AM, Tuviah M Snyder wrote:

Create three drawer stacks whose sum of heights is the height of the
base stack (or otherwise, if you like).
It is possible..it hasn't been documented for some reason

drawer "x1" at "right,top" in stack "parent"
drawer "x2" at "right,center" in stack "parent"
drawer "x3" at "right,top" in stack "parent"
Same goes for other directions where the syntax is

drawer  [at pintoside,[alignment]]

So you can have multiple drawers on one side.

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Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

[Simon Lord]

The first order of business will be to set up a mailing
list so that we can start discussions of how that group should be
organized and later, what changes to the UI everyone wants (and are
willing to contribute to!).  That should help keep this list focused
on *using* the UI, with some discussions of the engine technology it
shares with the new "standard" development environment, Revolution.
I'd say *this* is that mailing list.  Not to put too fine a point on it 
but I'm exactly happy about using the RunRev UI, and if this list gets 
merged with theirs then I won't know what the hell people are talking 
about when they start mumbling about RunRev windows/palettes etc.

If RunRev wants to give me a free upgrade to their current product I'd 
be willing to test it on my current stacks.  But no promises on me 
liking it, I'm a big fan of the MC IDE. Huge fan.

But at least you're still around Scott.  I felt a wave of relief 
reading your post!

OK, so who wants to host that mailing list?
  Regards,
Scott
PS: it's at times like this that I miss Grant Schampel
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  He always loved a good brouhaha, and always had
something insightful to say about the back-room dealings that make
them possible...
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Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

[Simon Lord]

Wow.  See what happens when you only go through your lists once a 
week...

My feelings on this are mixed, on the one hand I'm hoping Scott got a 
sweet deal and can retire/relax after years of hard work.  I haven't 
read through all the RE:'s on this thread but if it hasn't been said 
yet then I'd just like to say thanks to Scott for everything he has 
done for me personally and for the list.

As for RunRev, I have no feelings about them or their products one way 
or another.  I will say this however, I truly hope that they maintain 
both UI's independently of each other.  After using MC for the last 12 
years I can honestly say that I'd probably ditch MC in a heartbeat if 
RunRev decided to only support their authoring environment (I'm having 
a hell of a time learning Flash - don't need more "OUIE GUI" to deal 
with).

UI arguments aside, I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way. Hell, 
after 12 years I kind of know where everything is.  Nothing can beat 
the simplicity of the MC interface!

I'd like to congratulate Kevin on building up his company to what it is 
today as well.

As Eminem would say, "that's my 10 cents, my 2 cents are free".

On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

Just went over to the RunRev site and saw this headline:

  "Runtime Aquires MetaCard Technology"

You can read all about it here:

   http://www.runrev.com/metacardpr.html

How does everyone feel about this? I can see good and not-so-good 
things
(depending on how RunRev acts on this)...

Your thoughts?

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Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

[Simon lord]

Not that I'm here to speak for RunRev or anything (and for all I know 
those
folks may know of a reason why this suggestion is a very bad idea); 
but if
you're interested in things like the database support, but find the
interface too rcih/in your face, have you tried the "Suspend 
Development
Tools" option under the "Development" menu?
Interesting, I missed this menu item.  It's encouraging only because it 
proves Kevin can easily provide a *minimalist* authoring environment 
that MC users are accustomed to.

I'd have thought this might mean you get all the advantages of Rev in 
terms
of extended libraries - but effectively get rid of all their UI 
(except for
one tiny pallete with a "Restore" button on, which you minimise).  I'd 
guess
you could then just open the MetaCard UI instead (but of course I 
could be
wrong).
I think it was meant to hide the Rev tools while you tested your stack. 
 It otherwise does not appear to do much in *suspended* mode.

Maybe that is the way forward for those who will want to continue to 
upgrade
to new engines etc, benefit from the additional libraries, but use 
their own
or the "classic" MetaCard UI.  It might even be possible to formalise 
this
in a future version of Rev - eg have preferences to switch off the Rev 
UI at
startup, and to open some other UI at the same time.  (Actually the 
latter
may hardly be needed; I have a little toolbar which supplements the 
Rev UI,
which is implemented as a Rev "plugin", and set to open at startup and 
glue
itself to the end of the Rev menubar.  When the Rev UI is suspended, 
my bit
stays in place.)
Agreed.  Seems trivial to make an MC IDE as a *plugin* which is built 
and supported by MC users and use the *Suspend* type feature to switch 
between the two.  Seems easier to do this than to support two 
independent IDEs.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who gives this a go.  Or RunRev's
opinions if in fact they think it's a Very Bad Idea.
Same here.

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Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

[Simon lord]

Agreed.  I tried to give Rev an honest chance this weekend and got 
totally frustrated with all the palettes.  I was genuinely happy to see 
support for MySQL and other items I need but the interface simply 
turned me off and I had to use MC in the end.  It's not that I didn't 
understand the palette options and offerings, it's just that I don't 
want/need to know about these things while developing.  It's *too* 
helpful, kinda like a car salesman.

Maybe Kevin will add a pref dialog that allows us to decide what 
palettes and menus we want to see in our work environment.  That would 
help considerably and I don't see it as being that difficult to provide.

On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 09:10 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote:

On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 11:42  AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

So putting it just as bluntly, that there is a perception of MC's 
value is
reason enough.  If that perception changes over time the MC engine 
will
whither away naturally.  There should be no need to force change, 
and doing
so would not have the liberating feeling of a choice.
I'm not proposing forcing anyone to switch. That's not even what I'm 
asking about. I'm specifically curious why people would expend 
significant effort updating/enhancing the MC environment. If all 
we're talking about is maintaining compatibility with new engines, 
then that's a minimal task and I don't see any reason not to.
Well, I for one have just renewed MC licence, so I am "stuck" so do 
speak with MC for another year. Not that I despair. I am happy with 
MC, and I see no need for fork out a few hundred bucks to switch to 
Rev any time soon. I am among those for whom Rev's interface is too 
rich and gets in my way.

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Re: 2 answers

[Simon lord]

Oh wow.  That is cool.  Thanks Klaus!

On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 07:20 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Simon,

Does Metacard support drag and drop yet?
Yes, since 2.5...

IE, can I drag a file from the desktop to an area of a metacard stack 
and code it to react to the object?
Yes :-)

Basically all I need is for the *drop* to register the path names to 
the objects I dragged to MC.  Samples?
See my "Drag and Drop 1" stack on the RunRev contributor page... 
(nicely commented ;-)

Will surely get you started dragging and dropping :-)

Second, MC support the brush steel look on OSX yet?
Not per se...

You'll have to fake it with images and/or background-patterns...

Sincerely,
Simon
Hope that helps.

Regards

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2 Questions

[Simon lord]

Does Metacard support drag and drop yet?  IE, can I drag a file from 
the desktop to an area of a metacard stack and code it to react to the 
object?  Basically all I need is for the *drop* to register the path 
names to the objects I dragged to MC.  Samples?

Second, MC support the brush steel look on OSX yet?

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MySQL Support

[Simon lord]

Hi all, I need to write an app that will allow me to read/write data to 
MySQL.  I'd like to tinker with this on the weekend and I've seen it 
mentioned here a few times but was not in the market to use such a 
combination.

That said, can some kind sole provide me with the following:

1) Information about what I need in order read/write to MySQL
2) A sample stack (I can change the MySQL table calls) just so get a 
frame of reference

This would be much appreciated, I look forward to playing with it.

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Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

[Simon lord]

Not to put too fine a point on it but I'm exactly happy about using 
the RunRev UI
Whoops, that should read "I'm NOT exactly happy..."

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Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

[Simon lord]

From the FAQ on the press release page at
:
   What happens to existing MetaCard customers?

   Existing customers will get a free upgrade to Revolution with
   their next subscription renewal.
What does that mean?  Can I cross-grade now or do I have to wait until 
Nov 2003?  And when I read this I literally see that they are offering 
a FREE upgrade from my 2.5 license when it expires in Nov.

That does sound good, but I bet I'm not reading it the way they 
intended it to sound.

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Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

[Simon lord]

As Scott said the MC IDE is now open source so you can continue to 
maintain
an engine license and use the MC IDE instead of Rev. It's up to you if 
you
want to switch or not but it seems that all development will go into 
the
engine and the Rev IDE.
As long as the new features are documented then I don't see why I need 
RunRev.  I can just code it if I know about it.

Do we have any idea how this will work? For example, if you have a Rev
license will you be able to use your choice of Rev, MC or FreeGUI (or
whatever else)? That seems to be the most logical way to do things.
Cheers

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Fwd: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

[Simon lord]

The first order of business will be to set up a mailing
list so that we can start discussions of how that group should be
organized and later, what changes to the UI everyone wants (and are
willing to contribute to!).  That should help keep this list focused
on *using* the UI, with some discussions of the engine technology it
shares with the new "standard" development environment, Revolution.
I'd say *this* is that mailing list.  Not to put too fine a point on it 
but I'm exactly happy about using the RunRev UI, and if this list gets 
merged with theirs then I won't know what the hell people are talking 
about when they start mumbling about RunRev windows/palettes etc.

If RunRev wants to give me a free upgrade to their current product I'd 
be willing to test it on my current stacks.  But no promises on me 
liking it, I'm a big fan of the MC IDE. Huge fan.

But at least you're still around Scott.  I felt a wave of relief 
reading your post!

OK, so who wants to host that mailing list?
  Regards,
Scott
PS: it's at times like this that I miss Grant Schampel
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  He always loved a good brouhaha, and always had
something insightful to say about the back-room dealings that make
them possible...
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Fwd: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

[Simon lord]

Wow.  See what happens when you only go through your lists once a 
week...

My feelings on this are mixed, on the one hand I'm hoping Scott got a 
sweet deal and can retire/relax after years of hard work.  I haven't 
read through all the RE:'s on this thread but if it hasn't been said 
yet then I'd just like to say thanks to Scott for everything he has 
done for me personally and for the list.

As for RunRev, I have no feelings about them or their products one way 
or another.  I will say this however, I truly hope that they maintain 
both UI's independently of each other.  After using MC for the last 12 
years I can honestly say that I'd probably ditch MC in a heartbeat if 
RunRev decided to only support their authoring environment (I'm having 
a hell of a time learning Flash - don't need more "OUIE GUI" to deal 
with).

UI arguments aside, I doubt I'm the only one that feels this way. Hell, 
after 12 years I kind of know where everything is.  Nothing can beat 
the simplicity of the MC interface!

I'd like to congratulate Kevin on building up his company to what it is 
today as well.

As Eminem would say, "that's my 10 cents, my 2 cents are free".


On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

Just went over to the RunRev site and saw this headline:

  "Runtime Aquires MetaCard Technology"

You can read all about it here:

   http://www.runrev.com/metacardpr.html

How does everyone feel about this? I can see good and not-so-good 
things
(depending on how RunRev acts on this)...

Your thoughts?

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Re: MC to SVG translation

[Simon Lord]

I can't seem to find this link for mc2svg.  Can you supply one?

On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 09:01 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Monte Goulding wrote:

Check out this page for the possibilities:
http://www.adobe.com/svg/demos/main.html
...and the mc2svg stack downloadable through RevNet

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Re: Comm Server

[Simon Lord]

This would be perfect.

How do I go about contacting them and seeing a demo?  Anything exist 
yet guys?

On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 02:49 PM, Alain Farmer wrote:

Has anyone built a metacard based comm server?
Something akin to IRC that has multiple rooms
etc?  I'm interested in setting something like
this up for myself.

Shao Sean has one. Not sure if he is still working
on it.
What about the MC-based Jabber client that OPN started
many months ago. Jabber, as you probably already know,
is a *gateway* to several IRC/chat systems which also
manage your *presence*. Moreover, underneath the
"hood" of Jabber, there's a solid architecture based
on XML, for messaging as well as [meta-]data
structures.
OPN was/is : David Bovill, MisterX, Monte Goulding,
and myself, albeit I didn't contribute *directly* to
the development of this particular Jabber-client
stack.
Just a thought,

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Comm Server

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Has anyone built a metacard based comm server?  Something akin to IRC 
that has multiple rooms etc?  I'm interested in setting something like 
this up for myself.

Sincerely,
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netpbm

[Simon Lord]

Anyone successfully compile netpbm for redhat and have binaries?  I 
can't compile on my server for security reasons, but I can drop 
binaries there if I can find them.  But I can only find about 12 of the 
140+ binaries, and the ones I want are not part of the 12 I found.

If someone has these, I'd love to get a copy.  Thanks.

Sincerely,
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Re: Forced to use Applescript

[Simon Lord]

Actually this is a bad idea under OSX.  Even though this is a perfect 
solution for copying some files, many files and applications in OSX 
still have resource info attached to them.  I'm stuck with 5gigs of 
data that I am slowly resurrecting by reseting the file creators etc. 
(no backup).

Anyhow, if you want to use the command line to copy files around, a 
PERFECTLY SOUND solution as Brian points out, you need to use the 
following command instead:

ditto -rsrcFork /Users /Volumes/OtherPartition/Users

Do a man on ditto to learn more.


On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 02:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why not use shell() on OS X?

get shell("cp -R /MyFolder/MyApp.app /AnotherFolder/MyAppCopy.app")

Brian

  The only thing that didn't work using native MetaCard routines in 
OSX was
copying the 'Mach-O' resource from an '.app' package. There was some 
kind of
corruption going on, and I couldn't track it down any further than to 
the
Metacard engine itself.




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Re: Forced to use Applescript

[Simon Lord]

Sorry for the delay in my reply, used the wrong email address.

Actually this is a bad idea under OSX.  Even though this is a perfect 
solution for copying some files, many files and applications in OSX 
still have resource info attached to them.  I'm stuck with 5gigs of 
data that I am slowly resurrecting by reseting the file creators etc. 
(no backup).

Anyhow, if you want to use the command line to copy files around, a 
PERFECTLY SOUND solution as Brian points out, you need to use the 
following command instead:

ditto -rsrcFork /Users /Volumes/OtherPartition/Users

Do a man on ditto to learn more.


On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 02:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why not use shell() on OS X?

get shell("cp -R /MyFolder/MyApp.app /AnotherFolder/MyAppCopy.app")

Brian

  The only thing that didn't work using native MetaCard routines in 
OSX was
copying the 'Mach-O' resource from an '.app' package. There was some 
kind of
corruption going on, and I couldn't track it down any further than to 
the
Metacard engine itself.




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OT question

[Simon Lord]

Anyone here use MM Director MX?  How easy was it for you to learn the 
Lingo language (assuming you knew MetaTalk first)?

I have some clients that need some online projects and I'm using Flash 
but - well, it's hell.  And Lingo looks much more familiar.

If only we could export to SVG from metacard - solve almost all my 
problems with regards to online/offline projects.

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acceptDrop

[Simon Lord]

I may be missing the point here, but I set acceptDrop to true, then in 
my stack script I say:

on dragSource
  put the result
end dragSource

Then I dragged a file from the desktop to the stack.  I assumed the 
output in the msg box would be the long name of the file as explained 
in the Readme.  I may not be clear on this I think, I see no result at 
all.

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Re: 2.5b3 was posted tonite!!!!

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It states 2.5B2 when launched.  That just an oversight?

On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


ftp://ftp.metacard.com/MetaCard/2.5/


-- snip --


 MetaCard 2.5 release notes **

A SIGTERM signal sent to the UNIX (including Mac OS X) engines causes
a shutDownRequest message to be sent to the defaultStack.  Passing the
message causes a normal exit, not passing it causes the signal to be
ignored.



Thank's a lot, Scott, for this very usefull feature and the secure vay
it will let us reboot remote deamons from within metacard's
client-server apps without having to log in using SSH or SSL based
front-ends.

-- snip --

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Re: Virtual reality lens

[Simon Lord]

Yes, but you need an SLR camera like the Nikon D100 which is a digital 
camera but uses standard Nikon AF lenses.

On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 09:10 AM, Michael Kann wrote:

Interesting concept. Would it work with a digital
camera?

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Hi all, if you are not interested in photography or
360° virtual
imagery then please ignore my post.  I'm selling a
360° lens for
standard 35mm cameras which has served me very well
in the past for
creating QuickTime VR's and panorama's.

All the details are here:
http://www.marelina.com/behere/


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Virtual reality lens

[Simon Lord]

Hi all, if you are not interested in photography or 360° virtual 
imagery then please ignore my post.  I'm selling a 360° lens for 
standard 35mm cameras which has served me very well in the past for 
creating QuickTime VR's and panorama's.

All the details are here: http://www.marelina.com/behere/

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Re: darwin mc?

[Simon Lord]

Speaking of which, has anyone written a good (and open) communication 
stack to simulate a kind of IRC client?  I would like to use a Flash 
interface to speak to metacard on the server to tie in multiple 
conversations between people.

I've tried installing other cgi and java based solutions but they are 
really really bad.  So it might be time to roll up my sleeves and write 
my own server side solution with metacard.  But if I can get leg up 
then that'd be great.

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 11:09 AM, Richard MacLemale wrote:

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Richard, thanks for the perspective.  What is "darwin mc" ??

Sadhu


It's the metacard engine for Darwin.  You can slap it into your
CGI-EXECUTABLES folder and then write MetaTalk scripts to do cool CGI 
stuff.


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New window style

[Simon Lord]

I sent an email to Scott with this question, he hasn't responded so I'm 
wondering if my support ran out :^)

My question is for MC under OSX.  Is there, or *will* there be a new 
window style that would allow me to create the brushed steel window 
with rounded corners?  The API to do this has been included in the 
latest versions of OSX (I see Apple Script can make these windows now).

So how long before we can state:  set the style of this stack to brushed

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Re: MetaCard 2.5 alpha 8

[Simon Lord]

Ken, would it be possible to get a sample stack from you?  In a past 
life I wrote a SuperCard stack that would display a movie in a card 
with a controller, the controller would have handles at either end 
(custom made SC controller).  The first controller represented the 
00:00:00 timecode while the end controller represented the end of the 
movie's timecode, ie 00:03:57

Moving these timecodes to the right or left allowed for the user to 
play just the selection *in-between* the timecodes.  I have included a 
screenshot of that SC project below, hope that helps.

Having said all this, I'm trying to find some samples in the MetaCard 
universe that would allow me to shave a few weeks off my development if 
I could find a stack which had a few basic samples such as:

(1) How to get the movie length in time (so I can make set timecodes 
again)
(2) How to play from timecode to timecode (if possible, maybe an 
alternative?)

That's it really, maybe a few extras but it's late and I'm barely awake 
at this point in the email.  In essence, I'm hoping for a *rosseta* MC 
stack that will instantly show me all the movie controls/handles MC can 
perform (aside from the obvious like, play, stop etc).  From the email 
below, I take it you probably have worked out many of the issues I'm 
looking to develop for a small internal project.

Thanks.

PS: SuperCard 2.5 works fine in Classic.  Had a bug where it would 
crash if you selected the Finder, but since it does not exist in 
Classic, it runs fine. Cool, cause I liked SuperEdit very much.

<>

On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 10:12 PM, Ken Ray wrote:


Scott,

Any chance of getting the "posterTime" property for player objects 
(which
returns the timepoint in the movie where the poster frame was defined)
working for 2.5?

Additionally we'd also spoken about a couple of other items:

(1) the ability to grab a frame from a QT movie as image data so it 
could be
stuck into an image object using the QT API call "GetMoviePICT", and

(2) an extension of the "prepare" command that would force MC to 
render a
player object into its buffer before it was displayed so that one 
could have
a hidden player object, set its currentTime to a specified time, and 
then
show it, optionally with visual effects.

I'm assuming the last two aren't in the works for 2.5, but I just 
wanted to
remind you of them in the event that there was still some fleshing out 
to do
on them.

Thanks,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Raney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:19 PM
Subject: MetaCard 2.5 alpha 8


MetaCard 2.5 alpha-test 8 is now available in the directory:
ftp://ftp.metacard.com/MetaCard/2.5/

See the file README.2.5 in that directory for the list of new
features.  The new debugging features of the engine are complete in
this release, though the UI still needs a little tweaking.  Now would
be a good time to take it for a spin to get your must-have features in
for the first beta-test release, due up next.
  Regards,
Scott


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MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that...

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player object

[Simon Lord]

Can anyone tell me if the movie player objects actually work?  I 
dragged one out, set the filename to a quicktime movie on the desktop 
and I can play the movie if I state:

start player "will"

...but I'm more interested in using the actual movie controller which 
is drawn below the movie yet is completely unresponsive to any of my 
requests to play the clip, fwd, back, volume etc.

I'm running 2.5b1 build 3 on OSX 10.2.3

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Re: Can't Build Standalones in OS X

[Simon Lord]

Verify your startup and open stack scripts.  Sometimes a runtime will 
hang on something you have there.  For a quick test, comment out those 
scripts that do something on "startup" or "on open" etc.  If your stack 
does not immediately quit then it's likely something in the boot script 
it does not like.

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 12:20  PM, Gregory Lypny wrote:

Hi Everyone,

	Using MC 2.4.3 to build a standalone.  I moved resources and followed 
the steps in the standalone builder, but whenever I double-click the 
standalone, it opens, its window appears for a fraction of a second, 
and then disappears.  What am I doing wrong?

	Greg



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	Associate Professor
	John Molson School of Business
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Opacity

[Simon Lord]

Is it possible to set the opaqueness of a card/stack?  My stack is 
acting like a window definition tool, so ideally the user can set the 
look of their window before I output and  style sheet.

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Re: Need a good "open process" sample

[Simon Lord]

Hmm, has it always been that easy?  I remember having real problems 
with this a few years ago on the SGI.  It was a real pain to get it to 
do anything.  And these samples are much more straightforward than I 
remember.

But, that said.  Thanks Andu.

On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 11:40  PM, andu wrote:

>
>
> --On Sunday, October 06, 2002 03:01:52 -0400 Simon Lord 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I can never get this command straight.  Anyone have a straight forward
>> example of metacard using "open process" to launch a process via the
>> shell.  I'm going nuts running "put shell()" and having mc wait around
>> until the process is completed.  This would help a lot.  Thanks.
>
> On Linux:
> open process "netscape" -- pops up the browser.
> open process "netscape http://www.metacard.com"; --with url
> open process "netscape -mail" -- pops up messenger
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Need a good "open process" sample

[Simon Lord]

I can never get this command straight.  Anyone have a straight forward 
example of metacard using "open process" to launch a process via the 
shell.  I'm going nuts running "put shell()" and having mc wait around 
until the process is completed.  This would help a lot.  Thanks.

Sincerely,
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Need a good "open process" sample

[Simon Lord]

My original post doesn't seem to have made it to the list.  So here it 
is again.

> I can never get this command straight.  Anyone have a straight forward 
> example of metacard using "open process" to launch a process via the 
> shell.  I'm going nuts running "put shell()" and having mc wait around 
> until the process is completed.  This would help a lot.  Thanks.
>
> Sincerely,
> Simon
>
>
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sudo on OSX

[Simon Lord]

Hi all, I have a minor problem with the StartupItems under OSX.  It's 
owned by root.  So the application I'm writing can't set a script there 
to launch on startup.  This is likely a security measure so my option 
is to send a command to sudo and write/copy the script to the 
StartupItems directory.  Problem is how does one do that?  I'll need to 
ask the user to enter the password (root only, users cannot modify) but 
then how do I actually run it in a command line *with* the password?  
IE,. I don't want to run the script and have the Terminal say "ok, 
what's the password", I want to include the password in the command to 
copy the script to the StartupItems folder.

Any ideas?

Sincerely,
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Drag and Drop

[Simon Lord]

Does MC support this feature?  Basically I want a user to be able to 
drag a file/folder from their desktop (OSX, OS9) onto the interface of 
the MC app and have the app get the location of that file(s).  That 
all.  If I can get the path names then it's pretty simply to do some 
post edits on those files.

Just trying to make it easier for people by not having to have them go 
through the dialog box and pick files one at a time.

Sincerely,
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Text length

[Simon Lord]

Here is a small problem I'm having with text *collisions*.  I 
have a field who's contents are the names, dates and sizes of 
all the files in a directory.  The items are separated by a set 
of tabs, which can me adjusted left or right via a widget at the 
top of the field. So imagine sliding this widget and seeing the 
filenames stationary on the left but the filesize and date are 
in motion on the right.  The are moving because the distance 
(via tab length) is being adjusted to increase the space between 
these items.

My problem is that if I adjust the tabs too  far to the left the 
size column collides into the names and the formating goes 
completely out the window (ie the fake columns I created by 
setting tab widths is completely disregarded and stuff just 
formats willy nilly)

My question is, is there a way to return the length of text in 
pixels?  My column data is still separated by comma's so I'd 
love to see a solution that would allow me to get "item 1" and 
return that length in pixels.  There is a backwards solutions 
that allows me to get the length in characters, ad if I wrote a 
function I could sort of assume 5 pixels per character and 
multiply that by the length but this starts to slow things 
down.   Is there a faster method?

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Directory listing off server

[Simon Lord]

Andu seemed to have this figured out in his FTP sample stack.  
But I'm trying to stick to libUrl seeing as it's working out for 
me nicely thanks mostly to the help I've been receiving here.

Currently I'm trying to get a listing of filenames in a 
directory on a remote server.  Not having any luck and nothing 
in libUrl sticks out as being the *one* solution.  Anybody have 
a answer for this one?

Mr. Cragg?

  ;^)

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filename extension

[Simon Lord]

Here's a toughy.  At some point I want to offer some stacks to a 
client.  They'll all be runtime stacks.  But I'd rather just 
build a generic standalone that allows the stacks to run which 
will help reduce the total filesize dramatically (since each 
stack would be roughly 16k to 180k rather than 6mb each).

Now, this project is for Mac OSX only.  And my question is, does 
anyone know how to run a command line that will hide the 
extension on all files that end in .mc?  You can do this in the 
Get Info box from the Finder but I want to do this more 
discretely so as to make the stacks look more like individual 
applications (which they are) rather than a collections of files 
that belong to one runtime app.

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the detailed files

[Simon Lord]

Is it possible to get the detailed files of a particular file 
only?  How?

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Re: Hopes crushed

[Simon Lord]

How?  This is what I was using:

< put url ("binfile:"&ftpFile) into url ftpPath >

But that was locking up my script until it was done uploading.  
At the very least it works, my files get uploaded in full and I 
can download them and uncompress + execute successfully.  So I 
know that works.  Now I'm trying to use this...:

< libUrlFtpUpload ftpFile, ftpPath >

...because the docs on RunRev say it doesn't lock up the script, 
meaning I can continually check the progress and make a progress 
bar.  My problem is the file gets created but nothing else. It 
thinks the file has successfully been "uploaded" the second the 
file has been created and simply exits with the message 
"uploaded".  So, I have a working solution and a busted, but 
better option. Now I need feedback to tell me what I'm doing 
wrong with libUrlFtpUpload.

;^)

On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 01:37 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

> don't forget and use binfile!
>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Lord
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:29 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Hopes crushed
>>
>>
>> Ok, I'm trying to use the libUrlFtpUpload ,  [,
>> ] as noted on the RunRev site.  Before I paste the code
>> I want to explain the problem which is, the file gets created on
>> the server but that's as far as it goes.  I see a file on the
>> server which has the correct name but is usually only a few
>> bytes in size (I'm using 1.2mb files to test).
>>
>> So it seems like the "showStatus" routine is not working out for
>> me as directed.  Here is the lower portion of my mouseUp
>> statement (only sets the variables up) and the showStatus
>> routine:
>>
>> ...
>>put "ftp://"&;
>> ftpUser&":"&ftpPass&"@"&ftpDomain&"/"&ftpDirectory &"/"&
>> ftpFileName into ftpPath
>>libUrlFtpUpload ftpFile, ftpPath
>>showstatus
>> end mouseUp
>>
>> on showStatus
>>global ftpPath,ftpFile
>>put urlStatus(ftpPath) into tStatus
>>put tStatus ##show in message box
>>if tStatus is not among the items of "uploaded,error,timeout" then
>>  send "showStatus" to me in 50 milliseconds
>>end if
>> end showStatus
>>
>> Help is greatly appreciated, success is in the air.  I can get
>> this script working fine, but I'd rather use libUrlFtpUpload
>> because I can work a progress bar into the mix and show the user
>> something is happening.
>>
Sincerely,
Simon
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Hopes crushed

[Simon Lord]

Ok, I'm trying to use the libUrlFtpUpload ,  [, 
] as noted on the RunRev site.  Before I paste the code 
I want to explain the problem which is, the file gets created on 
the server but that's as far as it goes.  I see a file on the 
server which has the correct name but is usually only a few 
bytes in size (I'm using 1.2mb files to test).

So it seems like the "showStatus" routine is not working out for 
me as directed.  Here is the lower portion of my mouseUp 
statement (only sets the variables up) and the showStatus 
routine:

...
   put "ftp://"&; 
ftpUser&":"&ftpPass&"@"&ftpDomain&"/"&ftpDirectory &"/"& 
ftpFileName into ftpPath
   libUrlFtpUpload ftpFile, ftpPath
   showstatus
end mouseUp

on showStatus
   global ftpPath,ftpFile
   put urlStatus(ftpPath) into tStatus
   put tStatus ##show in message box
   if tStatus is not among the items of "uploaded,error,timeout" then
 send "showStatus" to me in 50 milliseconds
   end if
end showStatus

Help is greatly appreciated, success is in the air.  I can get 
this script working fine, but I'd rather use libUrlFtpUpload 
because I can work a progress bar into the mix and show the user 
something is happening.

Sincerely,
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Re: Upload

[Simon Lord]

This is working properly for me now, thanks very much.  I read a 
little on the runrev site concerning libURl and I found that 
libUrlFtpUpload does the same thing.  Now which method is better?

On Monday, July 29, 2002, at 05:24 AM, Dave Cragg wrote:

> At 11:18 pm -0400 28/7/02, Simon Lord wrote:
>> I got this mostly working I think.  but Here's what happens:
>>
>> The url:
>> ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/downloads/osxhints/
>> The file:   /Applications/MetaCard/Direct_Chat.zip
>> The error:   error File not specified
>>
>> I'm using the code you sent with the obvious variables hardcoded in
>> just to test it out.  I'm wondering if it has something to do with a
>> product we use on our server but I won't know that until morning.
>> If you spot anything please let me know.
>
> You need the full file path of the destination url. For example;
>
> ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/downloads/osxhints/Direct_Chat.
> zip
>
> Also, you'll probably have to urlEncode your user name as it 
> contains the "@" symbol.
>
> For example:
>
> put 
> "ftp://:@www.marelina.com/downloads/osxhints/Direct_Chat.zip"
>  into tUrl
> put urlEncode("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") into tUser
> put "" into tPass
> replace "" with tUser in tUrl
> replace "" with tPass in tUrl
> put "binfile:/Applications/MetaCard/Direct_Chat.zip" into tSourceUrl
> put url tSourceUrl into url tUrl
> if the result is not empty then
>   answer the result
> end if
>
> For more infor on libUrl, see the following:
>
> <http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/interimreleases/liburl/liburldoc.
> shtml>
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> Cheers
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Re: 2.4.3 final?

[Simon Lord]

I did not get the FINAL indication by email either, that is, if 
it did go out.

On Monday, July 29, 2002, at 03:20 PM, Karl Becker wrote:

> I may have missed this message due to a different computer 
> checking my email, but 2.4.3 is apparently final, right?  Is 
> the 2.4.3 download I downloaded from the 2.4.3 directory on the 
> FTP servers the same as the 2.4.3 that is now on the general 
> "Get MetaCard" page?  The "Get MetaCard" page app has a 
> modification date of July 27, but my app I had from before 
> (which does not have any indication of it being a beta, the 
> folder is also named "2.4.3X") has a modification date of July 
> 15.
>
> Sorry if this is a dumb question  :-)
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Re: Upload

[Simon Lord]

I got this mostly working I think.  but Here's what happens:

The url:   
ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/downloads/osxhints/
The file:   /Applications/MetaCard/Direct_Chat.zip
The error:   error File not specified

I'm using the code you sent with the obvious variables hardcoded 
in just to test it out.  I'm wondering if it has something to do 
with a product we use on our server but I won't know that until 
morning.  If you spot anything please let me know.

Thanks!


On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, at 01:14 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Simon Lord wrote:
>
>> I have a great script that allows MetaCard to download a file
>> from my server.  Now I need one to upload a file to the server.
>> Does anyone have a stack with a sample script to do this?  Just
>> a time saving question.
>
> LibURL makes it easy:
>
>   put  into url 
>
> e.g.:
>
>  put "ftp://"&; tUser&":"&tPword&"@"&tHost&"/"&tFileName &"/" 
> into tDestUrl
>  put url ("file:"&tLocalFile) into url tDestUrl
>
>
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Re: Open or ask file, or other?

[Simon Lord]

Hehe, yeah that's the one.

Simon

On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 09:28 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Simon Lord wrote:
>
>> I'd like to get the user to select any file they wish via the
>> file browser on their default OS.  In this case I'm talking
>> about the Mac OSX OS.  I'd like a dialog box to open which
>> allows them to click a file and select "ok" etc.  Problem is I
>> can only seem to initiate the dialog box to do 1 thing, (1) they
>> pick a name and location to save a file.  I briefly thought of
>> the Open command but you need to know the path for that.
>>
>> I seem to be suffering another brain fart, if someone can point
>> me to the proper method to allow a user to pick a file  on their
>> own via a file browser then it would go a long way to closing
>> off this otherwise great weekend.
>
>answer file "Select a file:"
>
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Open or ask file, or other?

[Simon Lord]

I'd like to get the user to select any file they wish via the 
file browser on their default OS.  In this case I'm talking 
about the Mac OSX OS.  I'd like a dialog box to open which 
allows them to click a file and select "ok" etc.  Problem is I 
can only seem to initiate the dialog box to do 1 thing, (1) they 
pick a name and location to save a file.  I briefly thought of 
the Open command but you need to know the path for that.

I seem to be suffering another brain fart, if someone can point 
me to the proper method to allow a user to pick a file  on their 
own via a file browser then it would go a long way to closing 
off this otherwise great weekend.

Sincerely,
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