Re: Security questions: Login spoofing, X11 keylogging, and sandboxed apps

[h . kampmann]

Hello,

when I read posts like @Dan's, I say to myself: Don't feed the troll.
Pointless.

Wish you all a nice weekend,
Heinz 
 
 
 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. März 2024 um 23:02 Uhr
Von: "Jan Stary" 
An: misc@openbsd.org
Betreff: Re: Security questions: Login spoofing, X11 keylogging, and sandboxed 
apps
go away

On Mar 28 21:16:45, dan.peretz...@gmail.com wrote:
> You didn't "Reply All", so I didn't get your reply in my inbox. (The person
> you're replying to should be in the To field, and the mailing list in the
> Cc field.)
>
> >Even on windows; this has nothing to do with intercepting ctrl-alt-del.
> False. Ctrl-Alt-Delete cannot be intercepted on Windows without first
> compromising the integrity of the operating system. The Windows kernel is
> hardcoded to forward Ctrl-Alt-Delete to Winlogon, and Winlogon runs in a
> separate Secure Desktop mode that takes over the entire screen and no other
> programs can intercept keystrokes from or send keystrokes to.
> https://security.stackexchange.com/a/34975
> https://learn.microsoft.com/windows/win32/winstation/desktops[https://learn.microsoft.com/windows/win32/winstation/desktops]
>
> >I don't believe that's true.
> >"Dear X11, what is $user typing into his firefox textarea"?
> I'm not an X11 expert, and I'm not sure if the example provided in the
> following link is because the program and the desktop it's running under
> have different UIDs (rather than locking the desktop, logging into a
> different user with a new desktop session using a SAK like Ctrl-Alt-Delete,
> and running it there), but I found this old blog post, by whom I believe is
> the founder of Qubes OS, being cited somewhere:
> https://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation.html[https://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation.html]
> It is common knowledge that X11 is insecure by design, not (only) by the
> ancient code, so even if the blog post isn't relevant anymore, it wouldn't
> surprise me if such attacks could still be done.
>
> >>I saw that Chromium, Firefox, and Tor Browser on OpenBSD (at least when
> installed from the OpenBSD package manager/ports) are sandboxed with
> pledge(2) and unveil(2).
> >find /usr/ports/ -name pledge\*
> Already done:
> https://openports.pl/search?file=unveil[https://openports.pl/search?file=unveil]
> This only lists third-party packages that have an OpenBSD ports-originated
> addition of pledge/unveil configuration files; packages that use
> pledge/unveil without configuration files, or whose pledge/unveil
> configuration files originate from the upstream distribution, are not
> listed. Chromium, Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox, Firefox ESR, and Tor Browser
> are sandboxed, which is excellent because Web browsing is one of the most
> popular desktop activity and browsers are meant to use networking and
> execute untrusted JavaScript/WebAssembly code, and parse untrusted data
> like media, CSS, etc. Contrary to servers, that if they're hacked then some
> business might be ruined, personal computers are used to do banking and
> shopping online, chat with distant friends/family
> members/doctors/lawyers/coworkers/etc., and hold our personal thoughts and
> memories, so I believe that they shouldn't get compromised just because the
> user entered the wrong website on a bad day, or opened the wrong video, or
> the wrong file, etc. OpenBSD already has the excellent system calls
> pledge(2) and unveil(2), and already uses them extensively in the base
> system and for the aforementioned browsers, but what about other programs?
 

Re: No coloring with colorls

[h . kampmann]

Hello,

I use in my user .profile

~/.profile
TERM=wsvt25
export PATH HOME TERM
export ENV=$HOME/.kshrc
export CLICOLOR=true
export LSCOLORS=ExGxcxdxCxegedabagacad

and in the .kshrc

~/.kshrc
alias ls=/usr/local/bin/colorls

For me it´s ok on the console and on X.

For me it's a gimmick. Actually always try 
to stick to base with everything.

Hope it´s on topic.
Wish you all the best,
Heinz
 
 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. März 2024 um 18:50 Uhr
Von: "Chris Bennett" 
An: "Karel Lucas" , misc@openbsd.org
Betreff: Re: No coloring with colorls
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:40:52PM +0100, Karel Lucas wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> LSCOLORS=exfxcxdxbxegedabagacad
>

I just use TERM=xterm
If you use a black background (or some other dark colors), you will want
to change LSCOLORS to not use a dark blue. I find that color combo
unreadable. I just use alias ls='colorls -Gla'. You can either have other
aliases or just type colorls with the same arguments as ls to get other
options.

--
Regards,
Chris Bennett

"Who controls the past controls the future.
Who controls the present controls the past."
George Orwell - 1984
 

[no subject]

[H]

Re: openbsd is shockingly good

[Piper H]

yes, it's quite nice. :)

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 5:27 PM  wrote:

> I have to say I am really impressed. This is how IT should be done. My
> compliments to the developers.
>
>

Re: pf faq for openBSD 5.9

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi, I resolved my problem with pf

I search in: Index of /pub/OpenBSD/doc/history/
<https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/doc/history/>

I'm searching support for my old soekris 4501

Best regards.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:07 PM Allan Streib  wrote:

> "Francisco Valladolid H."  writes:
>
> > I'm searching the PF FAQ for OpenBSD 5.9 in the history docs without
> > success.
>
> Did you try archive.org?
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20160430175649/https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html
>
> Allan
>


-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: pf faq for openBSD 5.9

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Thanks for reply.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 1:31 PM Tom Smyth 
wrote:

> Francisco
>
> Suggest you update ... there are a number options for running modern
> supported openbsd on flash
>

 I think my old soekrisk 4501 don't have support for new BSD releases.


>
> That aside
>
> You can try
> man pf.conf or man pf on the router as the manpages are probably  installed
>

thank you.

>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, Francisco Valladolid H. 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> I'm searching the PF FAQ for OpenBSD 5.9 in the history docs without
>> success.
>> I'm setting and Soekris 4501 router for a small office and the
>> flashrd images support
>> OpenBSD 5.9.
>>
>> Thank you for reading.
>>
>> --
>> Francisco Valladolid H.
>>  -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
>>
>
>
> --
> Kindest regards,
> Tom Smyth.
>


-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

pf faq for openBSD 5.9

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi folks

I'm searching the PF FAQ for OpenBSD 5.9 in the history docs without
success.
I'm setting and Soekris 4501 router for a small office and the
flashrd images support
OpenBSD 5.9.

Thank you for reading.

-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Buying a New Laptop

[Coppock, Patrick H]

Hi,

I'm thinking about getting a new laptop, and I want to get something with good 
OpenBSD support. I know ThinkPads have had good support historically, and I'm 
wondering if that holds for recent machines. In particular, I've been eyeing 
the L13. Does anyone have a similar machine running OpenBSD that could comment 
on the hardware support?

Thanks,
Patrick

Buying a New Laptop

[Coppock, Patrick H]

Hi,

I'm thinking about getting a new laptop, and I want to get something with good 
OpenBSD support. I know ThinkPads have had good support historically, and I'm 
wondering if that holds for recent machines. In particular, I've been eyeing 
the L13. Does anyone have a similar machine running OpenBSD that could comment 
on the hardware support?

Thanks,
Patrick

Re: How do you get different $PS1 for /bin/sh and /bin/ksh?

[Tom H]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:26 AM Ottavio Caruso
 wrote:
> On 18/09/2020 09:01, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ottavio Caruso
>>  wrote:
>>> On 17/09/2020 10:40, Tom H wrote:


>>>> You've said that you're now sourcing "$HOME/.kshrc" if
>>>> "SKSH_VERSION" exists.
>>>>
>>>> You could add the sourcing of "$HOME/.shrc" if "$SH_VERSION"
>>>> exists.
>>>>
>>>> Or you could export ENV and use a case-esac of this kind:
>>>>
>>>> case "$0" in
>>>> *ksh)
>>>> ...
>>>> PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ '
>>>> ;;
>>>> *sh)
>>>> ...
>>>> PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ '
>>>> ;;
>>>> esac
>>>
>>> This solves the problem. Thanks.
>>
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> But, out of curiosity, which option did you choose? TIA
>
> Ah sorry, I used the second option.
>
> I have this in .profile:
>
> export ENV="$HOME/.kshrc"
>
> and this in .kshrc:
>
> case "$0" in
> *ksh)
> PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ '
> ;;
> *sh)
> PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ '
> ;;
> esac

OK. Thanks.


> On my NetBSD VM, sh and ksh are two different executables. ENV points
> to ~/.shrc which then sources ./.kshrc if KSH_VERSION = true
>
> I have thought of replicating the same configuration over to OpenBSD
> but I might be looking for trouble.

I use the same dotfiles on OpenBSD and NetBSD (I therefore don't use
OpenBSD's ksh backslash-escaped variables).


> On a side note, there's no mention of startup files in sh(1) and I
> wonder why.

Because POSIX sh doesn't define startup files, only "ENV".

4.2BSD sh, on the other hand, read "$HOME/.profile" (only) in login
mode, but didn't read "ENV" in interactive mode.

Re: How do you get different $PS1 for /bin/sh and /bin/ksh?

[Tom H]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ottavio Caruso
 wrote:
> On 17/09/2020 10:40, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> You've said that you're now sourcing "$HOME/.kshrc" if
>>"SKSH_VERSION" exists.
>>
>> You could add the sourcing of "$HOME/.shrc" if "$SH_VERSION" exists.
>>
>> Or you could export ENV and use a case-esac of this kind:
>>
>> case "$0" in
>> *ksh)
>> ...
>> PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ '
>> ;;
>> *sh)
>> ...
>> PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ '
>> ;;
>> esac
>
> This solves the problem. Thanks.

You're welcome.

But, out of curiosity, which option did you choose? TIA

Re: How do you get different $PS1 for /bin/sh and /bin/ksh?

[Tom H]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 9:33 AM Ottavio Caruso
 wrote:
> On 17/09/2020 00:58, Ashlen wrote:
>> On 20/09/15 05:49PM, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe it's just because OpenBSD sh is just ksh in disguise or there
>>> might be other reasons that I obviously don't know.
>>
>> Yep, you're right. They share the same inode.
>>
>> ls -li /bin/{,k}sh
>>
>> 77862 -r-xr-xr-x  3 root  bin  613656 Sep 15 12:10 /bin/ksh
>> 77862 -r-xr-xr-x  3 root  bin  613656 Sep 15 12:10 /bin/sh
>>
>> sh(1) also attests to this.
>
> Thanks but I gave that for granted. My question was about not
> exporting PS1 to subshells. In theory, it shouldn't be exported but
> it does get exported if one uses ENV=.kshrc vs sourcing .kshrc.

You've said that you're now sourcing "$HOME/.kshrc" if "SKSH_VERSION" exists.

You could add the sourcing of "$HOME/.shrc" if "$SH_VERSION" exists.

Or you could export ENV and use a case-esac of this kind:

case "$0" in
*ksh)
...
PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ '
;;
*sh)
...
PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ '
;;
esac

Re: sysupgrade to 6.6 failed at comp66.tgz

[Mathijs H]

This topic has been beat to death. deraadt@ and other have made it clear that 
if you do not install all the sets, you are running an unsupported 
configuration. It has been stated that if people keep bitching, they're just 
going to merge the release sets into one set.

I like the fact that there are separate sets. A number of times I've had to 
squeeze an install onto a <2GB disk, and it was useful being able to select 
only the specific sets I wanted/needed, while at the same time acknowledging that 
it was indeed an unsupported configuration.

If people are going to try and be edgelords by refusing to install all the 
sets, then it's up to them to maintain and diagnose their unsupported 
configuration.


You can't seriously be calling "-x* -game*" an unsupported configuration ?  
Seems to me like a sensible thing to do on any box that's going to be headless for its 
entire life and only ever accessed via SSH (or text console at a push).


It's an unsupported configuration.

Re: heavy CPU consumption and laggy/stuttering video on thinkpad x230

[Michael H]

*David, sorry for the repeated message. I realized that reply only went out
to you alone and not the mailing list :P

Here's what I have tried:

setup the xorg.conf file to tell it to use the intel driver instead of
modesetting
#/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
Section "Device"
   Identifier "inteldrm"
   Driver "intel"
EndSection

modified login.conf and increased datasize-cur for staff class from 1536M
to 4096M
#/etc/login.conf
staff:\
:datasize-cur=4096M:\
:datasize-max=infinity:\
:maxproc-max=512:\
:maxproc-cur=256:\
:ignorenologin:\
:requirehome@:\
:tc=default:

Here are the new dmesg and Xorg.0.log:
dmesg
http://ix.io/21Ux

Xorg.0.log:
http://ix.io/21Uy
noticed this in the beginning of the Xorg.0.log file.
[   266.934] (WW) checkDevMem: failed to open /dev/xf86 and /dev/mem
(Operation not permitted)
Check that you have set 'machdep.allowaperture=1'
in /etc/sysctl.conf and reboot your machine
refer to xf86(4) for details
[   266.934] linear framebuffer access unavailable

terminal message from mpv when viewing a live video from twitch:
https://pastebin.com/iRCAmq4r
it mentioned something about libEGL warning: DRI3: Screen seems not DRI3
capable
and basically I'm still having the same problem as before; stuttering,
audio/video stopping every few seconds.

and now when i play youtube videos with mpv, some seem to cause my x to
crash and takes me immediately back to the xenodm login screen for some
reason. not all videos, but many do. not sure if this was the case before i
made these changes or perhaps the videos i did play prior to the changes
were not as high quality as the ones i picked this time around?

while the system does use intel drm instead of modesetting which was
selected as default, none of these really fixed the issues I'm having
though. on top of that, now some of the youtube videos i'm playing via mpv
seems to be crashing X and taking me back to the xenodm login screen :(

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:38 AM David Trudgian  wrote:

> On 11/15/19 9:51 AM, Michael H wrote:
> > *laptop: thinkpad x230, i7 processor, 8G ram, intel hd 4000 gpu*
> > *New OpenBSD user with a fresh install.*
>
> I have a ThinkPad T430 which I'm now typing this on. It's an i5-3320m
> (vs your i7-3520m) with 12GB RAM and the same HD4000 class graphics, so
> it's pretty close.
>
> > My user account is created from the install process and has "staff"
> class -
> > though i haven't increased the datasize-cur, datasize-max for staff yet.
> > Additionally, apmd has been set to -A as suggested by the faq.
>
> Am no expert, having only installed OpenBSD for the first time recently,
> but played around with the staff settings when I couldn't use a browser
> or play video at all well. Started with some values in a blog post on
> the net from someone setting up a laptop, and ended up with:
>
> :datasize-cur=8192M:\
> :datasize-max=8192M:\
> :maxproc-max=4096:\
> :maxproc-cur=1024:\
> :openfiles-max=32768:\
> :openfiles-cur=16384:\
>
> I have also set the following systcl values:
>
> # shared memory limits (browsers, etc.)
> # max shared memory pages (*4096=8GB)
> kern.shminfo.shmall=20971552
> # max shared memory segment size (2GiB)
> kern.shminfo.shmmax=2147483647
> # max shared memory identifiers
> kern.shminfo.shmmni=1024
> # max shared memory segments per process
> kern.shminfo.shmseg=1024
>
> # Other
> kern.maxproc=32768
> kern.maxfiles=131072
> kern.maxvnodes=262144
> kern.bufcachepercent=50
>
> The large files numbers here are due to using syncthing, and (I'd guess)
> probably not generally advisable. The other stuff is quite likely to be
> inadvisable or just plain wrong (due to my inexperience), but it has
> given me a responsive system when using Firefox / Chromium, playing
> video etc.
>
> > *Is this an issue with the system somehow using the modesetting driver
> > instead of the inteldrm* *driver*? if so, why is that and how should i
> best
> > remedy this problem? I thought old thinkpads are generally fully
> supported
> > by OpenBSD?
>
> Although the login.conf and sysctl settings made the most difference for
> me, I do have a smoother experience using the intel driver than the
> modesetting one. It's especially noticable when playing video in
> Firefox, and dragging the browser window around on my XFCE desktop. The
> intel driver happily plays the video smoothly as the window moves
> around. The modesetting driver wouldn't do that for me.
>
> I have the following at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/intel.conf
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "drm"
> Driver "intel"
> Option "TearFree" "true"
> EndSection
>
> Hope some of this might be useful!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave Trudgian
>
>
>
>
>
>

heavy CPU consumption and laggy/stuttering video on thinkpad x230

[Michael H]

*laptop: thinkpad x230, i7 processor, 8G ram, intel hd 4000 gpu*
*New OpenBSD user with a fresh install.*

My user account is created from the install process and has "staff" class -
though i haven't increased the datasize-cur, datasize-max for staff yet.
Additionally, apmd has been set to -A as suggested by the faq.

Basically, whenever I play a video, CPU0, CPU2(shown in top) spike up to
about 30-58%. The heatsink/fan/ventilation area of the laptop gets
extremely hot.

Videos buffer pretty slowly, and most importantly, when I am watching a
live stream via players such as mpv, it's basically unwatchable because the
video stops every 3-4 seconds.

*Here is a log file of messages from mpv while playing a stream: *
https://pastebin.com/3VRWgv3K
*Here is a log file of messages from mpv while playing a youtube video: *
https://pastebin.com/mn0wEXMf

*here is my dmesg:*
http://ix.io/21Bg
*here is my Xorg.0.log:*
http://ix.io/21Bb

*Here are the firmwares that have been downloaded during installation:*
intel-firmware-20190918v0 microcode update binaries for Intel CPUs
inteldrm-firmware-20181218 firmware binary images for inteldrm(4) driver
iwn-firmware-5.11p1 firmware binary images for iwn(4) driver
uvideo-firmware-1.2p3 firmware binary images for uvideo(4) driver
vmm-firmware-1.11.0p2 firmware binary images for vmm(4) driver

*Is this an issue with the system somehow using the modesetting driver
instead of the inteldrm* *driver*? if so, why is that and how should i best
remedy this problem? I thought old thinkpads are generally fully supported
by OpenBSD?

Anyways, if anyone could help i would really appreciate it!

*and if anyone is using this exact machine (thinkpad x230), could you also
recommend some of the other optimizations you have done for this machine? *

thanks in advance!

Re: CUPS and AVAHI (bloatware)

[Kurt H Maier]

I don't like the idea of splitting packages, but I get weirded out when
ghostscript (which DOES have a no_x11 variant) winds up pulling in dbus.
I guess there's no escaping freedesktop.org.

khm

Re: New question, do I really need a AAAA record?

[Kurt H Maier]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 08:18:31PM +0200, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I think I didn't formulate the question well.  What I meant was,
> do I need also a static ipv6 to be considered by big smtp servers as a
> legal sender?
> 

No.

khm

Re: gmail and hotmail blocking mail sent from my IP

[Kurt H Maier]

You're the last person anyone wants email advice from, Rupert.

khm

Re: How do you do "family remote support"?

[Kurt H Maier]

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 05:22:29PM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote:
> Never heard of whatismyip.org?
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

Never heard of NAT?
Sent from QMail Stationary

Re: Current FreeBSD looking to switch to OpenBSD

[Kurt H Maier]

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 09:20:49PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote:
> > I dual boot now between Win7 and FreeBSD
> > on I lapdog I have 5 os on it and use grub2 to boot them
>
> How is this helpful?


I don't know.  Some people just like talking about their computers to
strangers, I guess.

khm

Re: usb MIDI keyboard

[David H. Rhodes Clymer]

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:04:40AM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> > 
> > I've installd midish, and attempted to configure it to take my keyboard
> > input send it to the synthesizer.
> > 
> > midish config:
> > 
> > # Device 0: Arturia MKII
> > dnew 0 "rmidi/0"ro
> > 
> > # Device 1: fluidsynth
> > dnew 1 "midithru/0" wo
> > 
> > # Connect mkii to fluidsynth
> > fnew fluidsynth
> > fmap {any 0} {any 1}
> > 
> 
> this is correct, but you need to run the "i" command to start it
> processing.  Then, it's supposed to work, assuming fluidsynth is
> still running.

Doh. Yes, that was it! Thanks!

-davidc

usb MIDI keyboard

[David H. Rhodes Clymer]

So, I'm attempting to set up my midi controller/keyboard. Since this
is not itself a synthesizer, I need to hook it up to a software
synthesizer via my computer. Thus far I've failed to get it working.

My keyboard appears to be detected by kernel:

umidi0 at uhub3 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1 "Arturia Arturia MiniLab 
mkII" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 6
umidi0: (genuine USB-MIDI)
umidi0: out=1, in=1
midi0 at umidi0: 
ugen3 at uhub3 port 2 configuration 1 "Arturia Arturia MiniLab mkII" rev 
2.00/1.00 addr 6


It appears that I'm recieving MIDI commands from the keyboard:

$ hexdump -e '1/1 "%02x\n"' < /dev/rmidi0
90
3c
40
80
3c
00


I Can play MIDI files through synthesizer:

$ fluidsynth -vs /usr/local/share/generaluser-gs/GeneralUser_GS.sf2

$ midiplay -vf midithru/0 Downloads/MIDI_sample.mid 
Playing Downloads/MIDI_sample.mid (8444 bytes) ... 
^C

I don't even know if this makes sense, but attempting to "play" the
midi device doesn't seem to do anything when I play the keyboard:

$ midiplay -vf midithru/0 /dev/rmidi0
^C


I've installd midish, and attempted to configure it to take my keyboard
input send it to the synthesizer.

midish config:

# Device 0: Arturia MKII
dnew 0 "rmidi/0"ro

# Device 1: fluidsynth
dnew 1 "midithru/0" wo

# Connect mkii to fluidsynth
fnew fluidsynth
fmap {any 0} {any 1}

However, after starting midish and fluidsynth...:

$ fluidsynth -v -s -i -g 2 /usr/local/share/generaluser-gs/GeneralUser_GS.sf2
FluidSynth version 1.1.6
Copyright (C) 2000-2012 Peter Hanappe and others.
Distributed under the LGPL license.
SoundFont(R) is a registered trademark of E-mu Systems, Inc.

fluidsynth: prog0   0   0
fluidsynth: prog1   0   0
fluidsynth: prog2   0   0
fluidsynth: prog3   0   0
fluidsynth: prog4   0   0
fluidsynth: prog5   0   0
fluidsynth: prog6   0   0
fluidsynth: prog7   0   0
fluidsynth: prog8   0   0
fluidsynth: prog9   128 0
fluidsynth: prog10  0   0
fluidsynth: prog11  0   0
fluidsynth: prog12  0   0
fluidsynth: prog13  0   0
fluidsynth: prog14  0   0
fluidsynth: prog15  0   0

$ midish -v
> +pos 0 0 0
[:00]> +ready


and connecting my keyboard...no sound is produced when I press the keys.
I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious, but I'm stumped.  I've just
very recently switched to OpenBSD from Linux, where I had it working
just fine. So it seems unlikely to me that the device itself is at fault.
I'm not sure how to debug this or what else to try.

Any suggestions?

-davidc

Re: spamd and outlook.com

[Kurt H Maier]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:40:42PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:21:48 -0700
> Kurt H Maier <k...@sciops.net> wrote:
> 
> > Greylisting is a hack, an abuse of a side-effect.  Most such
> > approaches have deleterious side effects.  This particular side
> > effect is why I don't like greylisting in general, even though it's
> > fairly effective.
> 
> Do you answer your phone before looking at the number/caller?

In fact, there are some numbers I will not respond to (and these do not
cause my phone to ring) and the rest I just answer.  Just like having a
blacklist I don't accept SMTP connections from at all, and the rest get
processed normally.

What I don't do it set an outgoing voicemail greeting informing
correspondents that my time is more valuable than theirs, and if they
want to contact me I have a list of hoops through which they must jump.

That would make me an asshole.

> It is not a hack at all. 

It is.  SMTP is mandated to retry as a reliability factor, in a world
with bad network connections and unreliable software.  It is not
mandated to retry so people can play cute games with the sending unit.
I personally have no burning desire to see greylisting expunged from the
internet, but I also have no sympathy for people who think it's a real
solution to anything.  If it works for someone, good for them, but I
will never be even a little surprised when it becomes a pain in
someone's ass.

khm

Re: spamd and outlook.com

[Kurt H Maier]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:02:20PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2017-04-21, Craig Skinner  wrote:
> > Hi Markus,
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:25:14 +0200 Markus Rosjat wrote:
> >> so if you have spamd in place in greylisting mode and you have
> >> customers that work with people who use Office365 as a service you
> >> will get calls that emails are delayed for a freaking long time
> >
> > Email is not instant messaging.
> >
> > Customers need educated to that fact.
> 
> How do you educate them to that when they send to their gmail account
> and it shows up on their phone within seconds?
> 
> Sometimes there are delays but there's no reason for that to be the norm.
> 

There's no reason email can't be instant messaging.  Postmasters have
spent decades training users that email just sucks and is necessarily
unreliable.  All they did was corral users toward services where they
don't have to hear the administrators whining about how hard that job
is.  

Greylisting is a hack, an abuse of a side-effect.  Most such approaches
have deleterious side effects.  This particular side effect is why I
don't like greylisting in general, even though it's fairly effective.

khm

Re: Sony Vaio VPCSA

[Kurt H Maier]

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 09:22:42PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> Why exactly a laptop which only takes one disk would ship in RAID
mode,
> no idea, but I've seen it a number of times.
   
Many of the laptops in this series could take up to four custom SSDs,   
which would be presented as a single drive via Intel's Matrix RAID
stuff.
   
Others were capable of taking an msata drive to use as cache in front of
a spinning disk drive, which also required RAID mode to be enabled.
   
khm

Re: Looking for replacement of thinkpad x201

[Kurt H Maier]

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:26:58AM +0100, Florian Ermisch wrote:
> With the x260 support for a 16gb RAM stick (now DDR4) in the single
slot is
> now official
> but it's not clear if you can have both a 2.5"
> (7mm thick) drive and a m.2/NVMe SSD.
> The option of having an m.2/_SATA_ SSD sure
> is gone from what I've found.
   
My X250 shipped from Lenovo with a 16GB DIMM and I put my own m.2 ssd   
in.  I also configured it with the cache ssd, so right now I have a 
512gb 2.5" SSD for openbsd, a 512gb m.2 SSD for 9front, and a 16gb m.2  
SSD with a vfat filesystem that either one can mount.
   
If you can get over the keyboard, x250 is a very capable machine.
   
khm

Re: thinkpad X11 wheel emulation for middle button

[Kurt H Maier]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 07:01:45PM +0200, Μάνος Πιτσιδιανάκης wrote:
> I want to enable wheel emulation for the middle button in my Thinkpad 
> (T420s)

I have this in my .xsession:

xinput set-prop "/dev/wsmouse" "WS Pointer Wheel Emulation" 1
xinput set-prop "/dev/wsmouse" "WS Pointer Wheel Emulation Button" 2
xinput set-prop "/dev/wsmouse" "WS Pointer Wheel Emulation Axes" 6 7 4 5

This has worked for me on several machines, including the X250 I'm using
to send this message.

khm

Recommendation for firewall appliance running of and OpenBSD

[Tito Mari Francis H . Escaño]

Hi everyone,
Can somebody please recommend me a firewall appliance that can run OpenBSD and
pf, and can be upgradeable to the latest version? It would be a great plus if
the appliance can also be configured as part of CARP firewall group. pfSense
with FreeBSD doesn't cut it :)

Re: Full disk encryption by auto install

[Tito Mari Francis H . Escaño]

I'm sorry but I already reached the 2014 thread of the misc archives and have
not found any discussion of this. Not sure we have the same definition of
"recently" in this case :)
Maybe Dekker or somebody can share the thread subject and I'll go from there.
Otherwise, I'm open to further advise on this matter.
Thanks again.

-Original Message-
From: "Dekker" 
Sent: ‎10/‎18/‎2016 11:18 AM
To: "Tito Mari Francis Escaño" 
Cc: "misc@openbsd.org" 
Subject: Re: Full disk encryption by auto install

This has been discussed previously... And recently.
Search the mailing lists and you will find your answers.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 23:12, "Tito Mari Francis Escaño"
 wrote:
Hello everyone,Is full disk encryption via auto install script feasible? Has
anyonetried this before? Maybe somebody can share pointers on what to watchout
for if it's already been done.I was wondering how the full disk encryption
password can be securedduring auto install. Maybe somebody can share their
practices on this.Thanks so much.

Re: relayd.conf error

[Ali H. Fardan]

On 2016-10-16 01:47, trondd wrote:

This has an error:
listen 127.0.0.1 port 7000
This does not:
listen on 127.0.0.1 port 7003

This has an error:
forward with tls to  6697
The rest of your forward to lines do not.


Tim.


Sorry for late response, this mail server went down for a while, anyway,
thanks Tim!

relayd.conf error

[Ali H. Fardan]

Hey misc@, I'm having issues with relayd.conf. this is the error I get
when I try to run relayd:


# rcctl -df start relayd
doing _rc_parse_conf
doing _rc_quirks
relayd_flags empty, using default ><
doing _rc_parse_conf /var/run/rc.d/relayd
doing _rc_quirks
doing rc_check
relayd
doing rc_pre
host_dns: chat.freenode.net resolves to more than 1 hosts
host_dns: irc.oftc.net resolves to more than 1 hosts
/etc/relayd.conf:11: syntax error
/etc/relayd.conf:12: protocol irctls defined twice
/etc/relayd.conf:17: syntax error
/etc/relayd.conf:18: protocol irctls defined twice
/etc/relayd.conf:23: syntax error
/etc/relayd.conf:24: protocol irctls defined twice
/etc/relayd.conf:31: syntax error
no actions, nothing to do
doing _rc_rm_runfile
(failed)
#


using this config:


# cat /etc/relayd.conf
protocol "irctls" {
tcp { nodelay, sack }
}

table { chat.freenode.net }
table { irc.oftc.net }
table{ irc.swepipe.se }
table { irc.krustykrab.restaurant }

relay "freenode" {
listen 127.0.0.1 port 7000
protocol "irctls"
forward with tls to  port 6697
}

relay "oftc" {
listen 127.0.0.1 port 7001
protocol "irctls"
forward with tls to  port 6697
}

relay "efnet" {
listen 127.0.0.1 port 7002
protocol "irctls"
forward with tls to  port 6697
}

relay "volatile" {
listen on 127.0.0.1 port 7003
protocol "irctls"
forward with tls to  6697
}
#


by the way, this config used to work the last time I tried it on my
last server, not this though, have relayd.conf syntax change in last
update?

OpenBSD 6.0-stable smtpd queue encryption

[H Benfield]

Hello all,

I recently upgraded from 5.9-stable to 6.0, then rebuilt from source to 
6.0-stable.  The platform is amd64.

In my smtpd.conf file, when queue encryption is enabled, messages temporarily 
fail with this /var/log/maillog message:

Sep  4 09:16:03 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=connected 
address= host=
Sep  4 09:16:03 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=starttls 
ciphers="version=TLSv1.2, cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128"
Sep  4 09:16:03 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=authentication 
user= result=ok
Sep  4 09:16:04 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=message 
msgid=1f6136ab from=<> to=<> size=461 ndest=1 proto=ESMTP
Sep  4 09:16:04 host smtpd[35452]:  mda event=delivery 
evpid=1f6136ab3d1fbaa5 from=<> to=<> user= 
method=maildir delay=1s result=TempFail stat=Cannot get message fd
Sep  4 09:16:13 host smtpd[35452]:  mda event=delivery 
evpid=1f6136ab3d1fbaa5 from=<> to=<> user= 
method=maildir delay=10s result=TempFail stat=Cannot get message fd

The issue occured under 6.0 release and stable.  By disabling queue encryption, 
the messages are successfully delivered.  I have also regenerated the queue 
encryption key but this does not change the behavior.

The error is generated from mda.c but I'm not sure what causes fd == -1. Has 
anyone else experienced this issue?

Regards,

Harold Benfield 

Re: OpenBSD on Mikrotik/RouterBoard hardware ?

[Christophe H. STux]

Hi Stuart, Jakub , ...

Stuart Henderson wrote :

On 2016-05-21, Jakub Skrzypnik  wrote:

I'll be mostly interested in any efforts to keep OpenBSD on ARM
based SOHO routers by MikroTik, like RB951G and its family.


I don't think MikroTik have any ARM boxes. Like most of their smaller
boxes (and many other small routers) the RB951G is a 32-bit MIPS74k
design.  Their bigger boxes (CCR) are Tilera Tile-GX designs.

ARM hasn't been all that popular for router designs in general,
Firebrick FB2700/FB6000 and the in-development Turris Omnia use them
but I can't think of any others offhand.



No ARM boxes indeed,

:( .

Does it really mean none of the Routerboard archs could be handled using 
an OpenBSD ?


Maybe ( I try :) ) http://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2 (using macppc or 
socppc) ?


Christophe.

OpenBSD on Mikrotik/RouterBoard hardware ?

[Christophe H. STux]

Hello all,

My old companion, OpenBSD router/firewall (Intel Atom based and 5 
Gigabit Intel network interfaces) died 2 weeks ago ... (Really think 
motherbord is dead :( ).


I temporary replaced it by an unused old workstation based on AMD64x2 
processor, 4GB Ram, and with a (unique) Realtek Gigabit card (I use vlan 
for routing).


Installed it with OpenBSD 5.9 amd64, and works pretty well, but seems to 
be difficult for this hardware to handle load.


So I try to get a better hardware.

Context :
Optic fiber with 200Mbits/s DL, 50Mbits/s UL came to home this week 
(Tuesday) replacing 2 DSL connections.
(that I keep for now : network throughput is somewhat ridiculous 
compared to Optic fiber, but stability is really great : being an 
homeworker, Internet uptime is a prime goal, despite the throughput).


About 20 VLAN to handle ... and for most of them, PF rules apply.

Compared to delivered "router" from ISP (SFR in France, "NB6V box" for 
those who know this provider), this temporary "router" seems to lack of 
CPU/network interrupts while downloading at high speed (above 10 
MBytes/s) on WAN.


ping on other hosts drastically increases (+50~200ms based from 4~10 ms 
when link is not heavily used) while OpenBSD tries to route/firewall/nat 
the WAN traffic.


I already used Routerboards/RouterOS for several customers : works 
pretty great while using high throughput Internet connections. 
Customer's need is achieved for all cases, but the inside RouterOS 
doesn't feat my needs. (IPv6 policy based routing, and IPv6 NPT for 
instance).


About hardware :
RB2011 (XXX) or RB3011 (XXX) can, I think, match my needs.

About software :
OpenBSD stands out for a while for being my privileged OS for a 
router/firewall, and clearly feats my needs while it's simple to handle 
some particular cases ... (compared to a Linux based router for instance).


Is there any one who tried this hardware/software association (excepting 
the RB600A/soppc) ?


If not, what's the best hardware you know to operate an OpenBSD router 
with high throughput networks and many (about 450~500, including 
bridge/tag rules) PF rules ?


Best CPU, best known network driver (handling inside hardware 
implementations), and so on ...


Thanks for reading :) .

Christophe.

Re: OpenBSD 5.[8-9] and Quagga rip(ng)d ?

[Christophe H. STux]

Hello,

Jeremie Courreges-Anglas wrote :

Thanks, will try this.
This is the quagga configure script, right ?

Yes.  The patch should be applied from the ports tree:

   cd /usr/ports/net/quagga
   patch < /path/to/diff
   make clean repackage reinstall

Just done, and just works !

Jeremie, you're impressive ! :) and one more time I'd like to thank you !

Christophe.

Re: OpenBSD 5.[8-9] and Quagga rip(ng)d ?

[Christophe H. STux]

Hi Jeremie :)

Jeremie Courreges-Anglas wrote :

Try the following diff


Thanks, will try this.
This is the quagga configure script, right ?

OpenBSD 5.[8-9] and Quagga rip(ng)d ?

[Christophe H. STux]

Hello there,

(don't really know if it is misc@ or tech@ , sorry :) ).

Upgrading and old 4.8 (quagga running) OpenBSD to 5.9 was "in fine" 
quite easy .


copied /etc/hostname.* from old to new => OK
/etc/mygate, the same. => OK
/etc/pf.conf , only two rules to adapt (from about 1000) => OK.

The only problem I encounter is quagga package :
It was in 0.99.16 (in 4.8 release) ; migrating in 0.99.24p1 (from 
OpenBSD packages for 5.9).


This config speaks only RIPv2 and RIPng , but with quite specific 
configuration about route distribution : distribute only one prefix on 
one interface, distribute all except this on other interface, and so on ...


The need is (for instance) :

In RIPv2 :
"redistribute connected" (for most of all network interfaces)

but on interface vlan210 and vlan211 (only these) :
"no redistribute 172.18.1.0/24"
"no redistribute 172.18.8.0/23"
but
"redistribute 172.18.0.0/16"

acheived in quagga/vtysh (while using 4.8 obsd and 0.99.16 quagga) by :

_

router rip
 version 2
 timers basic 60 120 60
 redistribute connected
 network trunk0
 network vlan210
 network vlan211
 network vlan212
 network vlan3
 network vlan200
 network vlan201
 network vlan202
 [...]
 network vlan255

 [...]
 distribute-list 11 out vlan210
 distribute-list 11 out vlan211
 distance 10
!

access-list 11 remark Filter routing announces on only local network 
(for vlan21[01])

access-list 11 deny 172.18.1.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 11 deny 172.18.8.0 0.0.1.255
access-list 11 permit 172.18.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 11 deny any



If using 5.9 obsd and 0.99.24p1 quagga absolutely nothing works about 
RIPv2 :


quagga's ripd complains about (on all network interfaces) :

RIP: can't setsockopt IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP Can't assign requested address

Tried to implement OpenBSD's ripd, but can't find a way to restrict 
output updates for one or seveval network interfaces (meaning "don't 
redistribute this prefix on this interface"). This ends with a syntax 
error (and while browsing man and parse.yy of ripd, seems not possible).


Any clue to solve this dilemma ?

RIPng : it's about the same :( .
Found a way by using "route6d -O 2a01:dead:bef1::/48,vlan210,vlan211 -O 
2a01:dead:bef2::/48,vlan210,vlan211" but not realy as clever as "the 
good old" quagga was able to do ...


Thanks for reading :)
Christophe.

Re: pip for python3.4

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hello.

Install via packages:

$ sudo pkg_add -v
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.7/packages/amd64/py3-pip-1.5.6.tgz

Regards

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Joseph Oficre <seran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello!
> How can i install pip for 3.4 python? I want to set up virtualenv and
> stuff, but in packages just 2.7 version.
> I've found out that pip3 can be installed from ports, but i want easy way
> solution without ports. Is it possible or ports is only way?
>



-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Default OpenBSD browser

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi.

OpenBSD don't include browser by default, but my recommendation is
always Mozilla Firefox.

Regards

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Mohammad BadieZadegan
mbzade...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 As we know the default X Window manager for OpenBSD is fvwm
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=fvwmsektion=1 and that is
 very usefull for initial using of OpenBSD.
 But Does OpenBSD have any WEB browser(Text or vs Image) by default?
 If have not, What is the best and lightest browser that usefull with fvwm?
 Thanks.




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: OpenBSD 58-beta

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

5.8 Beta? You are running ...

Regards.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Michael McConville
mmcconvi...@mykolab.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 09:18:31PM +0500, dmitry.sensei wrote:
 First feature :) I can't load latest OpenBSD.iso.
 Unending stream Process (pid 1) got signal 4

 This has been happening. There was a thread about it yesterday. Theo
 advised everyone on tech@ to just wait a few days.




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: pre-orders for 5.7

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

congrats.
On Mar 12, 2015 1:59 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:

 We have activated pre-orders for the OpenBSD 5.7 CDs.

 See www.openbsd.org/57.html for more details about what is coming
 in this release; near the top there is a link to pre-order these
 CDs, which are a component of funding for the developments in OpenBSD...

 Release date will be May 1.

New Queue system

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Where can find the docs for the new queue system in OpenBSD ?

I remeber the ALTQ in the OpenBSD pf faq.

Best Regards.

-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: New Queue system

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Thank you.

There are a docs or FAQ ?



On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Christopher Zimmermann
chr...@openbsd.org wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:01:17 -0500 Francisco Valladolid H.
 fic...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where can find the docs for the new queue system in OpenBSD ?


 pf.conf(5) search for QUEUEING
 --
 http://gmerlin.de
 OpenPGP: http://gmerlin.de/christopher.pub
 F190 D013 8F01 AA53 E080  3F3C F17F B0A1 D44E 4FEE



-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: New Queue system

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

I'm reading now.

Thank you.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Christopher Zimmermann
chr...@openbsd.org wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:27:00 -0500 Francisco Valladolid H.
 fic...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you.

 There are a docs or FAQ ?

 not that I know of. That's what I do:

 queue dsl   on pppoe0   bandwidth 223K max 223K
 queue voip  parent dsl qlimit 5 bandwidth 110K min 110K
 queue lowdelay  parent dsl qlimit 5 bandwidth 50K min 40K
 queue std   parent dsl qlimit 10bandwidth 50K default
 queue bulk  parent dsl qlimit 50bandwidth 5K


 --
 http://gmerlin.de
 OpenPGP: http://gmerlin.de/christopher.pub
 F190 D013 8F01 AA53 E080  3F3C F17F B0A1 D44E 4FEE



-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Why doesn't GCM HTTPS work with nginx?

[Dorian H.]

You could try using the cipher configuration recommended by Ivan
Ristić / ssllabs.com, as described here:
http://blog.ivanristic.com/2013/08/configuring-apache-nginx-and-openssl-for-forward-secrecy.html

Restart nginx and check what cipher is being offered.
The highest cipher supported by both client and server should be negotiated.

You could also try compiling nginx with a newer version of OpenSSL as
static libraries
(or maybe upgrade and use LibreSSL?) and retry the above procedure.

And also, check the about:config page in Firefox, make sure the
maximum supported
TLS version is 1.2 by changing security.tls.version.max to value 3.


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Ez Egy ezegyemailcim...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since these two are using GCM:

 www.ssllabs.com: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
 www.google.com: ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256

 We wanted to make our webserver HTTPS connection more secure (don't look at
 the self-signed certificate, that doesn't count right now..)

 We are using an OpenBSD 5.4 64bit, and the openssl ciphers command says
 that it supports the ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 cipher. On client side
 there is Firefox 30 at least.

 So here is how we setup the HTTPS server:

 # generate self signed certificate
 openssl genrsa -aes256 -out /etc/ssl/private/server.key 4096
 openssl req -new -key /etc/ssl/private/server.key -out
 /etc/ssl/private/server.csr
 openssl x509 -sha512 -req -days 365 -in /etc/ssl/private/server.csr
 -signkey /etc/ssl/private/server.key -out /etc/ssl/server.crt

 The config:

 vi /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
 ...
 ssl_protocols TLSv1.2;
 ssl_ciphers ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384;
 ssl_prefer_server_ciphers   on;
 ...

 But Firefox says (I translated it from my language..):

 A connection to the www.foo.com is interrupted

 and ssllabs ( https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ ) says:

 Assessment failed: Failed to communicate with the secure server

 Question: How can we set GCM in nginx? Why couldn't a fresh Firefox connect
 via HTTPS to foo.com (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384,TLSv1.2)? It can connect
 to www.ssllabs.com via HTTPS (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384,TLSv1.2) so maybe
 it's not a client side problem..

 [user@localhost ~] openssl s_client -connect www.foo.com:443
 CONNECTED(0003)
 depth=0 C = HU, CN = www.foo.com
 verify error:num=18:self signed certificate
 verify return:1
 depth=0 C = HU, CN = www.foo.com
 verify return:1
 ---
 Certificate chain
  0 s:/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com
i:/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com
 ---
 Server certificate
 -BEGIN CERTIFICATE-
  here goes the cert..
 -END CERTIFICATE-
 subject=/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com
 issuer=/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com
 ---
 No client certificate CA names sent
 ---
 SSL handshake has read 2137 bytes and written 389 bytes
 ---
 New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
 Server public key is 4096 bit
 Secure Renegotiation IS supported
 Compression: NONE
 Expansion: NONE
 SSL-Session:
 Protocol  : TLSv1.2

Re: Price of Unix

[Dorian H.]

Searched on Google and found this:
ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses.html


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 (A little off-topic)

 I am due to give a little computer history talk at our local high school.

 Can anyone remember how much ATT, Berkeley, SystemV or any other UNIX
 flavour
 cost in the 70's and 80's?

 Thank You

 Danny

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 as guest under VMWare Server 2 install fails

[Nick H.]

Hello,

Further to my earlier very basic erro description, I was able to colelct 
some more debug messages from when the Kernel panic occurs.

Could you give me some pointers of how to possibly fix this or how to 
file a bug report. Thanks.


Here is the trace output:

cpu_init(d0b73880,0,30,d0a466a0,0) at cpu_init+0x51
cpu_attach(d15ce000,d14e1800,d0c3bbe4,d043f1ab,0) at cpu_attach+0x11c
config_attacg(d15ce000,d0a466a0,d0c3bbe4,d08a7510,0) at 
config_attachg+0x1bb
acpimadt_attach(d15cc200,d1655240,d0c3bc74,d043f1ab,d08972d0) at 
acpimadt_attach+0x1eb
config_attach(d15ce040,d0a476e0,d0c3bc74,d0897f80,0) at config 
attach+0x1bb
acpi_attach(d15ce040,d15cc200,d0c3bd74,d043f1ab,0) at acpi_attach+0x52d
config_attach(d15ce040,d0a475c0,d0c3bd74,d07def50,2d) at 
config_attach+0x1bb
biosttach)d15ce000,d15ce040,d0c3be54,d043f1ab,0) at biosattach+0x6b6
config_attach(d15ce000,d0c3be54,d0602b80,30c0) at 
config_attach+0x1bb
mainbus_attachh(0,d15ce000,0,d0a44040,0) at mainbus_attach+0x4e
config_attach(0,d0a44040,0,0,d0ab7a00) at config_attach+0x1bb
config_rootfound(d0961f0c,0,0d042ff31,0) at config_rootfound+0x46
cpu_configure(d0b73880,1,1000,cff3f000,1) at cpu_configure+0x29
main(d02004f6,d02004fe,0,0,0) at main+0x3dd


Here is the ps output:


PID PPIDPGRPUID S   FLAGS   WAITCOMMAND
*   0   -1  0   0   7   0x200   swapper




-- nick



* Nick H. wrote on Jan 26, 2014 [21:23, +0800]

 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:23:03 +0800 (SGT)
 From: Nick H. nh.mailingl...@beo.im
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: OpenBSD 5.4 as guest under VMWare Server 2 install fails
 
 Hello,

 I tried installing OpenBSD 5.4 as a guest OS in a VMWare Server 2 (yes, old 
 platform) and it fails early on during the install process. Since the VMWare 
 console doesn't allow me to copypaste the output, I took two screenshots (as 
 per attachment but not sure if this lost support attachments).

 Anyway, the final message on screen is:

 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 fatal protection fault (4) in supervisor mode
 trap type 4 code 0 eip d04a4968 cs eflags 10202 cr2 0 cpl 0
 panic: trap type 4, code=0, pc=d04a4968


 I first noticed this behavior when I tried installing OpenBSD 5.3. I then 
 tried to install OpenBSD 5.2, which worked like a charm. The dmesg of the 
 running OpenBSD 5.2 under VMWare Server 2 follows at the end.

 I am wondering if you could give me pointers as to why the install fails.

 -- nick


 +++dmesg of OpenBSD 5.2

 OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC) #278: Wed Aug  1 10:04:16 MDT 2012
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3615QM CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 
 2.31 GHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,NXE,LONG,SSE3,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,LAHF
 real mem  = 536342528 (511MB)
 avail mem = 516718592 (492MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/29/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd780, 
 SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe4010 (45 entries)
 bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 6.00 date 07/29/2008
 bios0: VMware, Inc. VMware Virtual Platform
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP BOOT APIC MCFG SRAT
 acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S3) USB_(S1) P2P0(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) 
 S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) 
 Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) 
 Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) 
 Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P1(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) 
 S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) 
 Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) 
 Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) 
 Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P2(S3) S1F0(S3) 
 S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) 
 Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) 
 Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) 
 Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P3(S3) 
 S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0!
 (S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) 
 Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) 
 Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) 
 Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) PE40(S3) S1F0(S3) PE50(S3) S1F0(S3) PE60(S3) S1F0(S3) 
 PE70(S3) S1F0(S3) PE80(S3) S1F0(S3) PE90(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA0(S3) S1F0(S3) 
 PEB0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEC0(S3) S1F0(S3) PED0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEE0(S3) S1F0(S3) 
 PE41(S3) S1F0(S3) PE42(S3) S1F0(S3) PE43(S3) S1F0(S3) PE44(S3) S1F0(S3) 
 PE45(S3) S1F0(S3) PE46(S3) S1F0(S3) PE47(S3) S1F0(S3) PE51(S3) S1F0(S3) 
 PE52(S3) S1F0(S3) PE53(S3) S1F0(S3) PE54(S3) S1F0(S3) PE55(S3) S1F0(S3

OpenBSD 5.4 as guest under VMWare Server 2 install fails

[Nick H.]

Hello,

I tried installing OpenBSD 5.4 as a guest OS in a VMWare Server 2 
(yes, old platform) and it fails early on during the install process. 
Since the VMWare console doesn't allow me to copypaste the output, I 
took two screenshots (as per attachment but not sure if this lost 
support attachments).

Anyway, the final message on screen is:

cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
fatal protection fault (4) in supervisor mode
trap type 4 code 0 eip d04a4968 cs eflags 10202 cr2 0 cpl 0
panic: trap type 4, code=0, pc=d04a4968


I first noticed this behavior when I tried installing OpenBSD 5.3. I 
then tried to install OpenBSD 5.2, which worked like a charm. The dmesg 
of the running OpenBSD 5.2 under VMWare Server 2 follows at the end.

I am wondering if you could give me pointers as to why the install fails.

-- nick


+++dmesg of OpenBSD 5.2

OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC) #278: Wed Aug  1 10:04:16 MDT 2012
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3615QM CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel 
686-class) 2.31 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,NXE,LONG,SSE3,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,LAHF
real mem  = 536342528 (511MB)
avail mem = 516718592 (492MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/29/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd780, 
SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe4010 (45 entries)
bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 6.00 date 07/29/2008
bios0: VMware, Inc. VMware Virtual Platform
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP BOOT APIC MCFG SRAT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S3) USB_(S1) P2P0(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) 
S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) 
Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) 
Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) 
Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P1(S3) S1F0(S3) 
S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) 
Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) 
Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) 
Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P2(S3) 
S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) 
S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) 
Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) 
Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) 
P2P3(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0!
  (S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) 
Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) 
Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) 
Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) PE40(S3) S1F0(S3) PE50(S3) S1F0(S3) PE60(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE70(S3) S1F0(S3) PE80(S3) S1F0(S3) PE90(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA0(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PEB0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEC0(S3) S1F0(S3) PED0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEE0(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE41(S3) S1F0(S3) PE42(S3) S1F0(S3) PE43(S3) S1F0(S3) PE44(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE45(S3) S1F0(S3) PE46(S3) S1F0(S3) PE47(S3) S1F0(S3) PE51(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE52(S3) S1F0(S3) PE53(S3) S1F0(S3) PE54(S3) S1F0(S3) PE55(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE56(S3) S1F0(S3) PE57(S3) S1F0(S3) PE61(S3) S1F0(S3) PE62(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE63(S3) S1F0(S3) PE64(S3) S1F0(S3) PE65(S3) S1F0(S3) PE66(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE67(S3) S1F0(S3) PE71(S3) S1F0(S3) PE72(S3) S1F0(S3) PE73(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE74(S3) S1F0(S3) PE75(S3) S1F0(S3) PE76(S3) S1F0(S3) PE77(S3) 
S1F0(S3) PE81(S3) S1F0(S3) PE82(S3) S1F0(S3) PE83(S3) S1!
  F0(S3) PE84(S3) S1F0(S3) PE85(S3) S1F0(S3) PE86(S3) S1F0(S3) P!
  E87(S3) S1F0(S3) PE91(S3) S1F0(S3) PE92(S3) S1F0(S3) PE93(S3) S1F0(S3) 
PE94(S3) S1F0(S3) PE95(S3) S1F0(S3) PE96(S3) S1F0(S3) PE97(S3) S1F0(S3) 
PEA1(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA2(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA3(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA4(S3) S1F0(S3) 
PEA5(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA6(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA7(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB1(S3) S1F0(S3) 
PEB2(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB3(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB4(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB5(S3) S1F0(S3) 
PEB6(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB7(S3) S1F0(S3) SLPB(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 65MHz
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT2 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x1e00! 0xca000/0x1000 
0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe4000/0x4000!
vmt0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x01
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x01
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
piixpcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA rev 0x08
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 Intel 

Re: OpenBSD VPS Providers

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi.

The following list of ISP also provide OpenBSD.

http://www.bsdvm.com
http://www.arpnetworks.com

Regards.


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Marko M. ma...@bsdserbia.org wrote:
 Hi,

 You may try: https://www.transip.eu They offer both OpenBSD and FreeBSD. I
 have been using their VPS with FreeBSD for a couple of years. They offer
 rather cheap and really good service.


 On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Some Developer 
 someukdevelo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm looking for a VPS provider that supports OpenBSD (preferably the
 latest version). I've obviously found a few but what I really want is easy
 to create and destroy instances in the same way you can on Digital Ocean
 and Linode (which I use for my Linux boxes).

 An API for automatic creation and destruction of virtual machines would be
 fantastic and if I was being really picky a European location for the
 servers.

 Does anyone have any suggestions and recommendations? I'd rather use a
 provider that has some positive customer reviews from this list. Some of
 the available options from a Google search look a bit shabby (I could be
 completely wrong and they are excellent companies I'm just basing it on
 what I can see).

 I'll be using this box as a VPN server.




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Beto b...@compumundohypermegared.org wrote:
 Hi, arpnetworks is other option.


arpnetwork is simple VM, no cloud.

I think  no support for OpenBSD cloud at this time

Regards


 2013/10/8 openda...@hushmail.com

 Hi,

 Can anyone recommend a decent OpenBSD cloud hosting provider?

 Digital Ocean looks nice but they don't yet offer OpenBSD (
 https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os-
 ).

 There's ARP Networks and TransIP but they don't offer clouds.

 Thanks.

 O.D.




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?

[Dorian H.]

I've got a few OpenBSD boxes running at TransIP, very satisfied about it.
QEMU/KVM based, and they recently added a new feature, 'private
networks' between
two or more VPS's.

It might not explicitly have the label 'cloud' attached to it, but
still very nice; and quite cheap as well.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:31:02PM -0400, Jiri B wrote:
 What about Joyent? They ported KVM from Linux to Solaris
 and they run it under zones. I would trust more Solaris based
 solution they some hackish Linux setups where every VM runs under
 root :)

 I personally use SmartOS and while it is an awesome system, OpenBSD does not 
 always behave perfectly well under Solaris KVM.
 I've had several vdisk related issues.
 In my experience, Linux KVM is a better container for our OS.

 --
 Antoine

Re: Network appliance recomendation.

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Maurice Janssen maur...@z74.net wrote:
 On 08/09/13 17:05, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:

 Hi folks.

 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.

 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?


 Axiomtek NA-320R might be an alternative.  Rack mount, 6 gbit ports,
 CF-storage and Atom 1.6 GHz CPU.

Thank you Maurice, excellente recomendation.


 Maurice



-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Network appliance recomendation.

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul de Weerd we...@weirdnet.nl wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 08:09:02PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
 | These can be hard to get via the usual axiomtek reseller channels, but 
 these are
 | the same thing with a different front plate:
 |
 | 
 https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-openbsd-appliance-6a16e.html
 | https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-appliance-6a16er.html

 I have the 6a16e (i.e. the non-rackmountable version) and have been
 very happy with it.  Highly recommmend it!

Thank you Paul.

This model is very expensive plus the shipping and import duties to Mexico..

Regards


 Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

 --
[++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+
 +++-].++[-]+.--.[-]
  http://www.weirdnet.nl/




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Network appliance recomendation.

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi folks.

Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
storage and five rj45 ports.

Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?

I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary
brands in the market.

Best Regards.

P.S sorry for my bad english.

-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Network appliance recomendation.

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

I think

mini-ITX boards are ok, but I need a integrated solutions.

Soekris is fine but lack of characteristics. 1gb rj45 port, etc.

it http://www.calyptix.com/portfolio/ae1200/ look fine.

Regards.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk wrote:
 Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.


 RJ45 ports? 100Mbit? Gigabit?


 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?


 If 100Mbit is fine, go with a Mini-ITX board and a 4-port Ethernet card in
 the PCI slot.

 Best regards,

 Mikkel C. Simonsen




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Network appliance recomendation.

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com wrote:
 I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
 expensive. (In México taxes are a big problem).

Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain.
I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet!


 In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
 http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm

I don't found rack cases for this cards.


 They are cheaper, but I don't know about their performance.

The throughput in this nic is low ~ 50mbps



I'm watching http://www.liantec.com/product/emboard/EMB-5842 look fine
and have a high throughput.


 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Francisco Valladolid H.
 fic...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi folks.

 Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small
 form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache.

 I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash
 storage and five rj45 ports.

 Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ?

 I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary
 brands in the market.

 Best Regards.

 P.S sorry for my bad english.

 --
 Francisco Valladolid H.
  -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower.




 --
 Hermes Ojeda Ruiz
 LogicalBricks Solutions
 http://logicalbricks.com




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: Network appliance recomendation.

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, William Ahern
will...@25thandclement.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:50:19PM -0500, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little
  expensive. (In M?xico taxes are a big problem).

 Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain.
 I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet!

 
  In two months I'll test ALIX appliances:
  http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm

 I don't found rack cases for this cards.


 Try netgate.com. They resell and repackage from various vendors, including
 PC Engines. They sell ALIX boards in 1U cases.

Good choice.!

 I need to upgrade my ALIX board 'cause it's too slow for IPSec, even with
 the VPN card.

fine.


 Intel just came out with new Atom chips with ECC support.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182782


Thank you for the link.
 It might be easier and cheaper to just toss that into a 1U case.



-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: who is using obsd

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez 
alv...@alvaromantilla.com wrote:

 2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net

  Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
   OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
   desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling,
   IPsec, IPv6.
   Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of
   square peg/round hole.
  
 
  Salim, that's quite strange. OpenBSD has worked on my Sun 4/110 desktop
  since 1995. And more recently, I've been using it on i386 and later even
  amd64 machines, as a desktop environment! It could just be some kind
  of hallucination. You know, I had this one dream of being tied up and
  injected with sodium pentothal...
 
  +1


You can use OpenBSD in desktop environment, sure, common tasks as; sending
emails, document processing, games, browse internet, etc.

OpenBSD sometime lacks of resources for run natively  flash plugins, java
efficiently and support for read/write NTFS filesystem from Windows; but,
if you not need it, OpenBSD do a good job.

Regards.

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obsd 4.3 NFS mount hangs server, umount -f fails

[Jose H.]

What can be done when the NFS mount is hanged ?

Re: Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition pre-orders are up.

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Just order today!

Best regards.


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández 
warlock...@gmail.com wrote:

 I ordered mine yesterday too. :D
 On Mar 17, 2013 8:38 AM, Brandon Tanner thelette...@gmail.com wrote:

  I got mine ordered today, when do you think it will ship from NoStarch
  Press?
 
 
  On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Michael W. Lucas 
  mwlu...@blackhelicopters.org wrote:
 
   On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:59:28PM -0600, Austin Hook wrote:
   
Pre-orders for the 2nd Edition of Michael Lucas' Absolute OpenBSD are
  now
up on the main order website.  Expected to arrive about the same time
  we
start shipping pre-orders for OpenBSD 5.3.  Pre-orders for the latter
   will
show up pretty soon as well.  No special early discount, but the
difference does go to support the project.  Or, if you need to pinch
   those
pennies (before they are discontinued), take the early order path
suggested by Michael's website, rather than through the big online
monopoly.  He gets a bit more that way.
   
You thought you knew all there is to learn in an introductory book to
OpenBSD?  You might be surprised.  A reference when you need it, and
   worth
a skim even just to see how OpenBSD has evolved over the last 10
 years,
   if
you have the original volume.
   
http://www.openbsd.org/books.html#B10
   
And follow the links.
  
   Excellent, Austin! Glad you got them. Linked from the book page. And
   thanks for the plug.
  
   Before anyone asks: I don't really care where you buy it.
  
   ==ml
  
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Re: Terminal emulators can't read .profile

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Sachidananda Urs sac@gmail.comwrote:

 On 12/10/2012 04:32 PM, Feng Zhou wrote:

 Hi,

 I was trying out st and urxvt as a replacement for xterm, and it turned
 out that all the settings I put in ~/.profile are not recognised when I use
 either st or urxvt.

 Is this a bug or an expected behaviour that I need to do something about
 to use other terminals? The shell was not changed, it was the default ksh.
 At first I thought it was a problem of st, but it happened to urxvt too. So
 I thought it's best to ask here. Any help is much appreciated.


You maybe need run $ urxvt -ls  or put  URxvt*loginShell: true  in
.Xdefaults file.

Regards.



  Try putting them in .kshrc, this the file that is read by terminal
 emulators.




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Re: Unified BSD?

[Julian H. Stacey]

 - Then came the Unix wars, where ATT sued BSDI (a commercial variant
   that no longer exists) over perceived copyright infringement.  The
   free BSDs weren't really directly involved, but the suit would have
   been just as relevant, and people were worried.
 
   This was the time that Linux was in the ascendancy.  Users had the
   choice of a free GPL system or one which might land them in
   trouble.  Most chose the safe option.

I know the view from Germany as to why Linux was taken up so readily,
most people read about it later,  repeat relayed wisdom, but I was
here  know:

( BTW though I'm British but in Germany, Germany is far
more signifcant in this regard than eg UK of GB, eg Linux mag.
has 3 times the circulation in Germany as UK,  whenever
I'm in UK I never see Linux mags in book shops etc ( of
course no BSD) just MS, whereas here in Munich there's some
choice of Linux mags, even in food supermarket (Tengelmann)
I recall.

Most newbies were clueless or didnt give a toss about FSF v BSD
licensing then (or now), or some firm called ATT across the pond
breathing hot air.  (Only us BSD people cared, not many of us).

Old Unix hands like me were earning good money fully employed doing
consultancy, (plenty of work then). Although I thought I maybe
should help spread BSD,  considered knocking out batches of 30/40+
floppies per mail order, it was Very unattractive, labour intensive
formatting, dd'ing, checking for media errors, at a very low pay
rate compare with mich higher paid  more interesting consultancy.

Plus also if one did that under German tax law (I checked with my
Steuer Berater = accountant I recall) it would be subject to Gewerbe
Steuer,  not just for the trivial amount earned on floppies shipped,
but could imperil imposing the extra tax on the Whole of consultancy
income, Very Expensive mistake to risk that. So I didn't  others
didnt; most other consultant friends here were also happy earning
at commercial rates,  didn't want to touch floppy reproduction.

BUT ... meanwhile there was a whole new load of students on low or
no income,  no tax issues to worry about,  young student mode
enthusiasm  time to evangalise their new free software ... Linux
... so one saw adverts for stack of floppies in eg CT Magazine
(http://www.heise.de/ct/  others.

 then CDs came on the scene, even easier for the students to push
out  again I wondered whether I should push out some BSD CDs, 
again colleagues were too busy to reduce their consultancy
income by doing grunt disk jockey work producing  mailing CDROMs
at cheap prices.  Again I was scared of German Gewerbe Steuer ...

So I decided to just do software bundling (safe consultancy work)
 let a commercial firm do manufacture, bulk distrib, German language
correspondence,  German gewerbe Steuer issues etc - Ughh)

So I mastered a combination Live + Install FreeBSD CDROM years
before freebsd.org did theirs,  approached german Linux Mag  Heise
(I think)  (English language, German based) BSD Mag (whatever, the
one from Rosa Riebl) to see if anyone would bundle it stuck to front
page of magazines (to really shift a lot  have BSD make a big
impact in the OS scene.

I didnt get anywhere with that, but I got further with Dr Dobbs USA
mag,  negotiations were going OK, then they decided it would be
too expensive to glue a CD on each cover,  they just wanted to
feature my CD in their library of CDs for sale ... at which point
I lost interest cos:
- It would fail to impact the market if not sent in bulk 1 per mag.
(I'd have accepted very low payment for that, as it
would have helped push BSD significantly)
- If not on Mag. cover  just in library for sale per individual order,
  I was scared of low sales,  not worth the bother to polish the
  master  maintain it maybe through new releases for low income.

Actually, I still see a market opportunity for someone:
  For BSD (or Linux) shipped on memory sticks.  But I wont touch
  that, especially not in Germany with this tax system,  having
  to deal with thousands of customers at low profit per unit, plus
  a lot of german correspondence (German grammar not nice IMO) ...
  but its still a market BSD or Linux students could exploit (if
  not already ... I havent read CT mag  ads. lately to know if it's
  being done).

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Unified BSD?

[Julian H. Stacey]

Hi,
Reference:
 From: Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se 
 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:34:56 +0100 
 Message-id:   50a23e70.8010...@update.uu.se 

Johnny Billquist wrote:
 On 2012-11-13 11:45, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote:
  On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin  Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four 
  largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each 
  and create a Unified BSD?
 
 
  You'd end up creating a fifth.
 
  At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list.
  Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility,
  is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net-)BSD compatible
  userland, an eighth.
 
 And what about 2BSD, BSD 3 and BSD 4 with all their releases?
 (And I assume that there was probably something that in retrospect would 
 have been called 1BSD as well...)
 
   Johnny

No they were sequential from same team, not later parallel forks.

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: How to delete this partial package?

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi.

you have to update your -current version of OpenBSD also.
both kernel and system base.

Regards.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Salil Wadnerkar rohsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I try to delete this partial package, I get these errors:
 ...
 File /usr/local/share/locale/en@quot/LC_MESSAGES/pkg.c8llMmPSGl does not 
 exist
 Read failed: Input/output error at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/md5.pm line 59
 I checked the source code. It is some coe that adds a file into some
 data structure (most probably, it is finding out which files to
 delete) and it fails to do so because the file is no longer there.

 How do I get rid of this partial package?

 The error message Input/output error indicates that the error is for
 some other file which does exist but for which the kernel is reporting
 an I/O error.  That suggests that you have some sort of disk problem.
 Has the kernel reported anything to dmesg?  If dmesg doesn't show
 anything, then I would fsck all your filesystems and, if that doesn't
 find anything, do a read check by dd'ing the raw partitions to
 /dev/null and see what that turns up.


 Philip Guenther




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Re: How to delete this partial package?

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Salil Wadnerkar rohsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Francisco,

 I am going to test my disk using Philip's suggestion. But, I am not
 sure I am following you. Are you suggesting me to update my current
 because this problem was found and fixed lately or you are just
 suggesting so because it's a good practice to keep our copy updated?

I think, maybe the -current are outdated, OpenBSD use libraries from
base for pkg_*

Maybe there are a disk I/O problems, you can check this also.

Regards.

 Thanks
 Salil

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Francisco Valladolid H.
 fic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 you have to update your -current version of OpenBSD also.
 both kernel and system base.

 Regards.

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Salil Wadnerkar rohsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I try to delete this partial package, I get these errors:
 ...
 File /usr/local/share/locale/en@quot/LC_MESSAGES/pkg.c8llMmPSGl does not 
 exist
 Read failed: Input/output error at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/md5.pm line 
 59
 I checked the source code. It is some coe that adds a file into some
 data structure (most probably, it is finding out which files to
 delete) and it fails to do so because the file is no longer there.

 How do I get rid of this partial package?

 The error message Input/output error indicates that the error is for
 some other file which does exist but for which the kernel is reporting
 an I/O error.  That suggests that you have some sort of disk problem.
 Has the kernel reported anything to dmesg?  If dmesg doesn't show
 anything, then I would fsck all your filesystems and, if that doesn't
 find anything, do a read check by dd'ing the raw partitions to
 /dev/null and see what that turns up.


 Philip Guenther




 --
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Re: Favorite IDE for C programming on OpenBSD

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi,
VIM is the reply.!

Regards.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Giovanni Bechis giova...@bigio.snb.it wrote:
 Joel Rees j...@alpsgiken.gr.jp wrote:
 Anyone tried Kylix under Linux emulation?  ;-

 I tried an old version and it worked, if I remember correctly it was
 OpenBSD 3.8.
  Cheers
   Giovanni




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Re: Learning C Programming

[Francisco Valladolid H.]

Hi.

IMHO,  Practical C Programming is a good book also.
(http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565923065.do)

Regards.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM, cody chandler
cody.a.chand...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote:

Talk about learning C Programming and the KR book being a good one.
  Is
   this the book?
  
   http://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Language-2nd-Edition/dp/0131103628
 
  yes it is, and i am surprised it is ~ $50. it is such a small book.
 

  Thanks to all!




-- 
Francisco Valladolid H.
 -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.

Re: the aucat recording studio - stereo panning

[Alexandre H]

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:05:36AM +0100, Alexandre H wrote:

You'll face other problems preventing you from doing everything with
aucat. First, there's no reverb, which is necessary to create the
spacial feel, volume changes are too abrupt (cause small clicks) and
not real-time.

Implementing pan, effects and smooth parameter changes would bloat
aucat/sndiod. IMO the way to go is to handle processing in small
programs (with a simple record-process-play loop) and keep sndiod
only for routing the signal to the hardware or other programs.

Currently that's the way I handle some effects, I write small programs
that apply effects on the record stream to send the result in
real-time on the play stream. Then I use -mmon to record the result in
a file. Not very flexible, but good enough to test the concept.


If I understand what you are doing, perhaps you have another way.
Noatun doesn't make the deal ?


afaics noatun can't apply effects in real-time and is not very
lightweight.


When I wrote it can apply effects in real-time I meant this :
I play an audio file. While it plays it I can do the following :
I go to the menu Settings and select Effects. I add the effect
Arts::Synth_FREEVERB for example. I hear the audio changing
immediatly as expected. If I change the value of a parameter the
audio change immediatly as expected. I can change the position of the
playing-cursor without audible delay. It's interactive and the audible
audio quality doesn't change (assuming the activity of other parts of
the system doesn't change sufficiently). AFAICS the effect is applied
online. Noatun and Kaffeine can do this real-time.

Sure, this interactive mode has some drawbacks and adding the audio
output recording in a new file will slowdown more or less the whole
process and perhaps decrease the audible audio quality (and if too many
process eat the CPU the real-time will end). At least for this last
reason it's certainly better to use batch mode (1 process offline) with
a command (sox for example) launched from a CLI.

The interactive mode has an obvious advantage : instead of launching
many times the same command with differents values in order to find the
best values, it's certainly easier to use a player with this
real-time capability. This interactive mode is useful not only for
listening music or playing with effects but also for discovering,
experimenting and testing filters (and GUI isn't mandatory, it can be
done in console mode with a keyboard only). This is why I proposed
Noatun (it should exists ligtherweight player with this capability).

I would like to go further on this point, I will stay brief :
An audio editor can use this 2 modes. The user searchs the best values
in interactive mode (without recording) and when he pushs the Save
button, the editor launch in background something like sox with this
values, wich converts the input file and give the output file (batch
mode). The editor has the advantages of this 2 modes without their
drawbacks.

If someone want to develop a new audio filtering editor he can
implement this principle on any player with this real-time capability
instead of developing a new one from scratch. Noatun seems to be a good
candidat. The player with the UI is already done and it works well, so
less work to do.

Re: the aucat recording studio - stereo panning

[Alexandre H]

You'll face other problems preventing you from doing everything with
aucat. First, there's no reverb, which is necessary to create the
spacial feel, volume changes are too abrupt (cause small clicks) and
not real-time.

Implementing pan, effects and smooth parameter changes would bloat
aucat/sndiod. IMO the way to go is to handle processing in small
programs (with a simple record-process-play loop) and keep sndiod
only for routing the signal to the hardware or other programs.

Currently that's the way I handle some effects, I write small programs
that apply effects on the record stream to send the result in
real-time on the play stream. Then I use -mmon to record the result in
a file. Not very flexible, but good enough to test the concept.


If I understand what you are doing, perhaps you have another way.
Noatun doesn't make the deal ?
You play audio file with it and add the filter Arts::Synth_FREEVERB.
It has the essential control knobs for reverb.
Kaffeine has other filters for audio.
Noatun  Kaffeine work well with filters, parameters can be adjusted
in real-time.
And it should be possible to record the audio output in a file.
And perhaps you will want to write new filters for them ;).

Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64

[Michael H Lambert]

On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:50, Tekk wrote:

 No, amd64 will only run on 64 bit x86 processors, so any 64 bit intel or amd
will work(amd made the architecture, so it's called amd64 or x86_64.) No 32
bit processor will be able to run it

For completeness, non-Itanium 64-bit Intel processors.

Michael

Re: how to find dependencies when building a new kernel

[Michael H Lambert]

On 29 Nov 2011, at 04:05, T. Valent wrote:

 This is what I do:
 edit /usr/src/sys/conf/GENERIC
 I'm fine with this so far.

I have to admit I've never needed to build my own OpenBSD kernel, so things
might be a bit different from NetBSD and FreeBSD. However, unless you are a
kernel maintainer, why are you editing GENERIC instead of copying it to, say,
MYKERNEL, and mucking about with that?

Michael

Re: Firewall rules to block unwanted protocolls on given ports

[Michael H Lambert]

On 19 Mar 2011, at 09:05, johhny_at_poland77 wrote:

 Does somebody has an idea, that what kind of iptables/pf rule must i use to
achieve this?:

 i only want to allow these connections [on the output chain]:

 on port 53 output only allow udp - dns

TCP also needs to be allowed for DNS (to allow for large DNSSEC packets).

Michael

Predictable network interface numbering

[Jean H. Theoret]

This one's got me stumped for a few days now...

How is it possible to control the network interface numbering assignment order?

Here's my specific case: the box has 2 on-board Ethernet interfaces and
a 3rd one on a PCI-Express card. They come up as:

   re0: PCI-Express card
   re1: on-board interface #1
   re2: on-board interface #2

A recent event had disabled the PCI card, and the remaining network
interfaces ended up being reassigned (upon the next reboot, of course) as:

   re0: on-board interface #1
   re1: on-board interface #2

Could this have been prevented by forcing network interface assignment
to on-board interface _first_, then the PCI card? Or is there a way to
bind network interface assignment to the adapter's MAC address as
numbering hint?

-- 
JHT

equivalent of Linux mount -o bind

[Travis H.]

So I'm curious if there's something in OpenBSD that's similar to the
mount -o bind /dir1 /dir2 to make dir1 appear where dir2 is.

I seem to recall a mount_nullfs but don't see it in the latest
OpenBSD.

Please note that I'm not trying to start a flame war, so there's
no need to make Linux comments.

BTW, the vnconfig manpage should probably indicate that the image need
not be a file, you can use a slice/partition too.

Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

[Denise H. G.]

On 2010/12/14 at 00:53, Nick Jones n...@dischord.org wrote:
 
 On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 at 22:55:59 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote:
  FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's
  running fine.  I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for
  reference.
  
  Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed.
  
 
 Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by
 using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD...
 
 You need to amend:
 
 /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/machdep.c
 
 And change the relevant line (1183 in the -current source I checked out
 yesterday) so that it says:
 
 int bigmem = 1;
 
 Then recompile your kernel as per the FAQ, reboot, and cross your fingers.
 Report your success (or failure) here.
 

Thanks for your reply!

But the point is that I haven't yet built a custom kernel ever
I only build custom kernels on FreeBSD... it seems custom kernels are
not popular in OpenBSD world...

Anyway thanks again!

-- 
If reproducibility may be a problem conduct the
test only once.

Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

[Denise H. G.]

On 2010/12/14 at 02:45, Jeff Ross jr...@openvistas.net wrote:
 
 On 12/13/10 09:52, Nick Jones wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 at 22:55:59 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote:
 FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's
 running fine.  I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for
 reference.
 
 Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed.
 
 
 Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by
 using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD...
 
 You need to amend:
 
 /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/machdep.c
 
 And change the relevant line (1183 in the -current source I checked out
 yesterday) so that it says:
 
 int bigmem = 1;
 
 Then recompile your kernel as per the FAQ, reboot, and cross your fingers.
 Report your success (or failure) here.
 
 
 Be aware that you are treading on unproven and unsupported ground, and
 the devs are not interested in hearing about bigmem related problems.
 
 Here is a PR I submitted not to long ago that was immediately closed
 because it was based on a bigmem kernel:
 
 http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6453

Thanks.

I've switched to FreeBSD for my desktop with 4G memory... I am
considering giving it a try on my laptop with less memory...

 
 At the bottom of this lengthy bug report is the response of the dev
 who closed it.
 
 Jeff Ross
 
 
 



-- 
If reproducibility may be a problem conduct the
test only once.

Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

[Denise H. G.]

On 2010/12/14 at 20:32, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Denise H. G. darc...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2010/12/14 at 02:45, Jeff Ross jr...@openvistas.net wrote:

 On 12/13/10 09:52, Nick Jones wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 at 22:55:59 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote:
 FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's
 running fine.  I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for
 reference.

 Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed.


 Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by
 using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD...

 You need to amend:

 /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/machdep.c

 And change the relevant line (1183 in the -current source I checked out
 yesterday) so that it says:

 int bigmem = 1;

 Then recompile your kernel as per the FAQ, reboot, and cross your
fingers.
 Report your success (or failure) here.


 Be aware that you are treading on unproven and unsupported ground, and
 the devs are not interested in hearing about bigmem related problems.

 Here is a PR I submitted not to long ago that was immediately closed
 because it was based on a bigmem kernel:

 http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6453

 Thanks.

 I've switched to FreeBSD for my desktop with 4G memory...

 Unnecessary fear :

 $ sysctl kern.version
 kern.version=OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #547: Tue Dec  7 23:16:34 MST
2010
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP

 $

 load averages:  0.76,  1.14,  1.06


  hostname 13:27:52
 49 processes:  1 running, 45 idle, 1 zombie, 2 on processor
 CPU0 states:  2.0% user,  0.0% nice,  1.6% system,  0.0% interrupt, 96.4%
idle
 CPU1 states:  3.8% user,  0.0% nice,  1.2% system,  0.0% interrupt, 95.0%
idle
 Memory: Real: 321M/610M act/tot  Free: 2651M  Swap: 0K/8189M used/tot

 $ dmesg | grep mem
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
 real mem  = 3487125504 (3325MB)
 avail mem = 3420016640 (3261MB)
 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600
 kqemu: kqemu version 0x00010300 loaded, max locked mem=1702696kB
 $

 My computer is more then 90% of time idle (regarding CPU) and my memory
 (even with bufcachepercent=40) is all the time more then 400MB free even
that
 I'm using a LOT of apps at same time including two or three VM's in Qemu.


Thanks! Then I have to learn now how to build a custom kernel on
OpenBSD, which is the first time for me:)


 $ vmstat 1 10
  procsmemory   pagediskstraps  cpu
  r b wavm fre  flt  re  pi  po  fr  sr sd0 cd0  int   sys   cs us sy
id
  1 0 0 329432 2714044  762   0   0   0   0   0   6   0   47 14706  775  8  3
89
  1 0 0 329544 2713900   67   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   35  3206  455  3  0
97
  1 0 0 329544 2713900   23   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   10  2412  319  0  0
100
  1 0 0 329544 2713900   33   0   0   0   0   0   0   03  2386  305  0  0
100
  1 0 0 329464 2713980  527   0   0   0   0   0   0   04  2568  313  6  0
94
  2 0 0 329464 2713980   58   0   0   0   0   0   0   03  2562  327  1  0
99
  0 0 0 329464 2713980   23   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   47  2907  404  1  0
99
  1 0 0 329452 2713992   30   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   58  4672  451  2  0
98
  1 0 0 329636 2713808 1021   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   69  7632  465  5  4
91
  1 0 0 329644 2713800  523   0   0   0   0   0   0   03  2504  308  5  0
95
 $






--
If reproducibility may be a problem conduct the
test only once.

Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

[Denise H. G.]

On 2010/12/13 at 21:26, Nick Jones n...@dischord.org wrote:
 
 On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 at 20:29:58 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote:
 On 2010/12/12 at 19:51, Martin Schrvder mar...@oneiros.de wrote:
 
  2010/12/12 Predrag Punosevac punoseva...@gmail.com:
  http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127593716916639w=1
 
  http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127601395920661w=1
  http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2010/bsdcan-openbsdupdate/mgp2.html
 
 FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's
 running fine.  I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for
 reference.
 
 Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed.
 

Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by
using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD...

-- 
The chief cause of problems is solutions.

Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

[Denise H. G.]

On 2010/12/12 at 19:51, Martin Schrvder mar...@oneiros.de wrote:

 2010/12/12 Predrag Punosevac punoseva...@gmail.com:
 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127593716916639w=1

 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127601395920661w=1
 http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2010/bsdcan-openbsdupdate/mgp2.html

 Best
Martin




Well... any way thanks! I think that explans everything.

Thanks! haha.

--
Sale promotions don't.

OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

[Denise H. G.]

Hi guys.

Recently I installed OpenBSD 4.8 and found out that it can't detect 4GB
memory on my amd64 box. From the output of dmesg I can see it detects
all the memory hardware (4x1G memory bars). Yet it can only use about
3.5G of them, like an i386 kernel does.

I've googled the issue and some say one has to 'config' the default
kernel (i.e., bsd.mp). But I am not very sure that I know how to do
that... My question is: Is there anything I can do to make bsd.mp detect
all the 4G memory on my amd64? There must be some way... I think.

Many Thanks!

-- 
When you are right be logical,
when you are wrong be-fuddle.

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

[Michael H Lambert]

On 24 Nov 2010, at 11:14, Bahador NazariFard wrote:

 I agree with Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
 He told Learning C is easy; learning to using C right is the hard part.
 Read
 more code to learn from the experts.

 I think if you are sharp u can learn C during one week.
 But using C is not so easy. You should be able to think as a programmer.
 I think all parts of a  program is important.
 you should pay attention to design, algorithm, debug, data structure,
 architecture and also libraries.
 you can not be a programmer by learning syntax of every computer language.
 I think programming is an art And there is only one way to learn an art,
 practice makes perfect.

 you can learn programming by reading and writing real projects codes.

And I'll add (I'm not a computer scientist!) that one should thoroughly
understand functional programming before even thinking about object-oriented
programming.

Michael

Re: Enough is enough!

[S H]

Pitty their isn't a $5 fee for whining.  I'm sure imposing something like
that would generate alot of revenue for Theo and the rest of the development
team.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:18 AM, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote:

 FTP server down, amd64 snapshot packages way out of sync with
 latest libc bump... What the hell!

 If you guys don't get your sh*t together, I'm done.

 Yeah, you read that right.

 If this whole situation is not cleared in the next 24 hours, I'm
 switching to ArchLinux (www.archlinux.org).

 You've been warned.

Re: Short thank you and gratitude note for constant OpenBSD improvements/evolutions!

[S H]

+1 Very well put Daniel

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net wrote:

 Hi,

 Many things got me to want to write a quick thank you note to the devs for
 a long time and as many things goes, times fly and sadly I keep putting it
 off.

 But, I guess some of the very disgraceful emails one misc@ lately
 including some totally off topics f*cked up one about OpenBSD being no free,
 or to expensive just show how totally disconnected to this community way to
 many lsers are on misc@ these days urge me to take the time and do
 it!

 So, this is just a simple and quick note to thanks ALL the
 ***developers***!!! for a great OS and constantly improvements done each
 day with the inclusion/improvement/addition and development of BSD license
 applications included in base, as well as REMOVAL/CLEANUP of really
 bulky/old one.

 No one SADLY really thank you for your TIME YOU so gracefully give to the
 project and that we get the advantage and benefit to be able to use and
 sadly looks like you are most of the time on the bad disgraceful receiving
 end!

 YOU give us YOUR time, YOUR brain, YOUR ideas and WE get the benefit of
 YOUR HARD WORK as well that YOU so willingly share so OPENLY with ALL the
 community.

 Just as an example, (I only pick the latest one, so forgive me for it) but
 yet still an other HUGE chunk of code was removed in the last few days
 *grof stuff and that's not the only one so don't take it as ONLY that
 please.

 But just that is yet one HUGE chunk of cleaned up code and it's amazing to
 see and follow source-chan...@cvs.openbsd.org and constantly see not only
 new great things constantly added, but a FANATIC attention to getting things
 secure, clean and correct each day as well as REMOVAL as well of old stuff
 including and not limited to old GPL stuff that clearly show YOUR total
 dedication to your beliefs!

 I don't want to take more of YOUR time as there is WAY to much to be
 thankful for and the list is WAY to long to put here! Even if I could, I
 would for sure forget some or someone and that's the last thing I really
 want to do is forget even a single developer effort and time gratfully givin
 to the community like YOU do each and every day!

 THANK YOU GUYS!!

 There is no words to really express the satisfaction and gratitude for the
 best OS ever made and second to none!

 I am sure you had built a thick skins over the years from comments on misc@,
 but just know that NOT all users on misc@ are total loosers!

 There is more then you might know that very much appreciate your work and
 gifts! Sadly it's the quiet one that really appreciate it I suppose!

 Best regards to your all and long live OpenBSD!

 Daniel

 PS: All others misc@ followers, don't forget 4.8 will be officially
 release on November 1, so go get your CD and show your support as well!

Re: 4.8 arrival!

[S H]

bsdmaster, IMO you should buy the cd's or wait patiently for them to be
released to the mirrors.  If you rely on OpenBSD enough to ask someone to
take their time to create ISO's and upload them you rely on it enough to buy
it!!!

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Would you please consider uploading an iso image of your OpenBSD
 4.8 to some public tracker such as thepiratebay.org?

 If you are unfamiliar with the process of making an iso-image out
 of a CD, or if you need help with the generation and upload of the
 torrent file, I may be of some help. Just ask.

 Thanks alot, this will be of great use for poor folks like me who
 cannot afford the expensive license fees. Yes, I said it, 50CDN$ is
 very expensive. Maybe the OpenBSD Company could setup something
 like MSDNAA, for stuents to get access to the software for free?

 Anyway, I'm getting off topic.

 PS: please people, stop bottom-posting. It forces me to scroll down
 to read the latest message, and I don't like that. Show some common
 sense!


 On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:14:24 -0400 SJP Lists
 sjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote:
 On 27 October 2010 10:14, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:36:00 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
 
 Chicago . . . THANKS!
 
 
  And all the way through customs to Sydney Australia.
  WOW!
 
 Me too.  And more nice shirts and a 2.5 CD for old times sake and
 to
 get my hands on my favorite stickers!
 
 
 Shane

Re: -current is not really -current

[S H]

With your recent posts, I highly doubt you'll be getting an
@openbsd.orge-mail address anytime soon.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:59 AM, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have been conducting a series of tests and I can say that there
 is a problem with the build service for the -current snapshots.

 Here is my findings:

 1 Get the code from CVS
 2 Build it
 3 Get the snapshot
 4 Compare
  it's not the same.

 I think of course this problem could be solved easily, so I search
 the mailing-list and I find that the snapshots are make manually by
 one person. I must say this person is a very courageous, but his
 wasting is time and the quality of the project (and also as a
 consequence, my time is wasted too).

 I suggest people always use the code that already exist to automate
 their task. For example, we could use the openSUSE build-service.
 Notice how their name also includes the word 'open', so it's very
 nice.

 I know how to use it very well, and I think I can be of some help
 with that process.

 Please contact me about this matter, I will reply directly to you
 with my desired username for my @openbsd.org email address, please
 don't just go creating it all for me without contacting me first to
 get my opinion because sometimes email addresses can be ugly and I
 don't like that.

 You're welcome.

Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA

[S H]

Hi misc,

I'm looking for some feedback from people who might have tried using an
Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA on OpenBSD.  I completely understand why
Theo and the rest of the developers don't include the driver in the GENERIC
kernel since they were never given the documentation from Adaptec needed to
create the best driver possible.

My file server currently runs FreeBSD 8.1 and has the adaptec card in it,
thus far it's ran quite well but I would love to have that system running
OpenBSD if I can.  So I'm hoping someone on misc has experience with this
card and might be able to offer some insight as to what I can expect in
comparison to how it runs on FBSD...

I also wanted to take this time to thank all of the other developers for the
upcoming release.

Shawn

Re: Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA

[S H]

Thanks for your updates to the story Nick.  As I said at this time I can't
replace the card but I will certainly do so as soon as I'm able.  I
appreciate your feedback.

Shawn

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.netwrote:

 On 10/22/10 11:56, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
  It's not only problem with license, but with quality of Adaptec as a
  whole http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125783114503531w=2 . But
  maybe it changed as there is not Adaptec anymore.

 And don't forget this follow up:
 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126775051500581w=2

 As you people keep bringing Adaptec cards, I'm gonna update my story...
  If you haven't read the above chapters in the story, you might.  I
 swear in it a few times.  I don't usually do that.  It's worth the read
 just for that. :)

 ok, when we last saw this story, Adaptec was working on new firmware
 which really would fix the problem.  Not too long after I wrote the
 second chapter in this saga, I got word from my ever-patient support guy
 that they got a new firmware for me, and if this doesn't do it, they are
 sending me new controllers (LSI), which they have switched to for all
 new machines they send out (forcing a rev of their application).

 The new firmware is installed, and finally..things are working.


 For a while.


 A couple months ago, one of the boxes hangs and quits working, somewhat
 like the very very first problem, but to be honest, that isn't my first
 guess.  I reboot the box, and call the service vendor and they look and
 sure enough, a couple hours later I get a call from the guy who has
 patiently worked with me on this stuff and he said, It did it again.
 I can't believe this, but sure enough, the system logs show the
 controller tripping up and killing the system. again.

 So, they tell me, That does it, you are getting the upgrade kit.  They
 send me out the deluxe edition, complete with new disks, array
 pre-created and preloaded with the new OS, as the old array won't be
 readable on the new array controller.  The kit is actually pretty
 decent, they have obviously spent a bit of time planning on having
 people field-upgrade these what were supposed to be sealed boxes, and
 changing cards in computers, of course, hasn't been an issue for
 me...well, ever.

 It's something of a pain, though, as we basically have to rebuild the
 box from scratch, and reconfigure it as the old system was (and hope we
 got everything right the first time...which we did by the time the third
 box was upgraded).  While we are upgrading the first one, though,
 another one died on us...leading us to think we've got an uptime-related
 issue.

 So at this point, I've got three of the boxes upgraded with new firmware
 (and a new version of the OS to go along with it).  The fourth box, I
 offered to test the NEXT new Craptec firmware on.  Curiously, the
 version number on the new firmware is SMALLER than the last This is it
 version.  Yes, you could feel my support contact rolling his eyes when
 he told me that.

 Do note that every step of the way, they are sending me new FIRMWARE,
 not new OS drivers.  They are having trouble working around the bugs in
 the hardware.  THE CARD IS CRAP.  THEY KNOW IT.


 Tell me again how wonderfully it is working on your FreeBSD system.  No,
 better idea, don't.  Save your breath.  All I will believe at this point
 is you haven't seen a problem...yet.  Maybe this card doesn't suck as
 bad as the ones we got in these four machines.  Maybe it just sucks
 differently.


 Nick.




 
  On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM, S H shbulkm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi misc,
 
  I'm looking for some feedback from people who might have tried using an
  Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA on OpenBSD. B I completely understand
 why
  Theo and the rest of the developers don't include the driver in the
 GENERIC
  kernel since they were never given the documentation from Adaptec needed
 to
  create the best driver possible.
 
  My file server currently runs FreeBSD 8.1 and has the adaptec card in
 it,
  thus far it's ran quite well but I would love to have that system
 running
  OpenBSD if I can. B So I'm hoping someone on misc has experience with
 this
  card and might be able to offer some insight as to what I can expect in
  comparison to how it runs on FBSD...
 
  I also wanted to take this time to thank all of the other developers for
  the
  upcoming release.
 
  Shawn

Re: Perfect daemon for a torrentbox

[S H]

I've used btpd, which is excellent IMO.  The only thing you'll find is you
can't make it fake ratio/speed and such as I have heard you can do with
rtorrent.

A simple script and I was able to just drop .torrent files into a directory
on my desktop machine and using a cron job the .torrent files would be
copied over and started automatically in btpd.

The blacklists you could maybe do using PF?

As for encryption, I cannot say as I've never tried that.  Good luck with
your project!

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 this week I got my hands over a working 200MHz i386 thin client Neoware
 ca5, see: http://www.jonshouse.co.uk/neoware_ca5.cgi
 This machine had got a 32MB WinCE rom disk over a 44pin IDE bus which I
 promptly removed ;))) and a RAM expansion slot which immediately got 256MB
 as a whoopping present :))) I'm right now waiting from ebay a compact flash
 to 44pin IDE adapter, so that I can stick in 16GB storage :)))

 So, this is the perfect torrentbox (and also angbandbox!): 15W max
 operating, fanless, kinda fire and forget :)))
 As soon as the card arrives the box will get a luxurious -current install
 :)))

 On CLI I've always used rtorrent as a nice, powerful torrent client.
 But this box is meant to run totally headless.
 Which means I'll access to it only through ssh.
 As far as I know, pls correct me if I'm wrong, rtorrent is not meant to be
 run as a daemon, even though somebody on linux already tried to overcome
 this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=53395 or

 http://flipsidereality.com/blog/linux/rtorrent-with-wtorrent-on-debian-etch-complete-howto/but
 these look like dirty hacks.

 I'd therefore like to know which program I could run as a torrent daemon
 with the following requisites:
 1. accessible/browsable through CLI/ssh every time I connect (http could be
 a plus, also to upload .torrent files)
 2. supporting level1 IP blacklists
 3. supporting protocol encryption

 Any good hints for the clue bucket?
 Thanks in advance

Re: ABOUT PEOPLE WITH WHOM MATRIMONY IS PROHIBITED

[S H]

And the relevance of this to the OpenBSD community is?

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Sam Singh samsingh...@absamail.co.za
wrote:
 1 : If a man commits adultery with a woman, then it is not permissible for
 him to marry her mother or her daughters.

 2 : If a woman out of sexual passion and with evil intent commits sexual
 intercourse with a man, then it is not permissible for the mother or
 daughters of that woman to merry that man. In the same way, the man who
 committed sexual intercourse with a woman, because prohibited for her
mother
 and daughters.

 Download the attached article to read.




  The original file name is PROHIBITED_MATRIMONY.rar and compressed by
 WinRAR no virus found.
  Use WinRAR to decompress the file.

 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a
name of winmail.dat]

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

[S H]

Dexter,

I'm still relatively new to OpenBSD and the community, however a few
days ago you had asked about why large memory support still wasn't
enabled by default.  Asking if the developers needed hardware, funding
or what  not to get it working properly.

If you were in fact a developer as your latest rant states and large
memory was such a concern for you, it would stand to reason that you
would be well aware of why it hasn't made it into the default install.
 Also, a developer likely wouldn't piss and moan about it on the
mailing lists, rather they would just start working to rectify the
situation.

Your obviously full of shit IMO, FreeBSD 7.2 came out quite some time
ago.  If you havent been using OpenBSD since your change than why did
you inquire about large memory support three days ago?

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Dexter Tomisson dexterto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Man, it's not me. Just wanted to share that with you all.

 On 10 June 2010 11:40, Dunceor dunc...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dexter Tomisson dexterto...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html
 
 

 Ok why write a long text and the only reason you have is that you are
 unhappy with driver support and with Theo? I was looking for some more
 indepth discussion on why you choose not to use OpenBSD anymore but it
 was just another worthless post.

 This feels more like the usual troll post of people that got hurt
 while dealing with Theo. Like somebody said, is this the year of
 trolls?

Re: No ACPI battery/ac status readings on a ASUS UL30A laptop.

[Torbjørn H . Orskaug]

2010/4/29 Torbjxrn H. Orskaug torbjorn.orsk...@gmail.com:
 2010/4/29 Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org:
 what happens if you remove and reinsert the power cord, does it do the
 same thing?


 Yep.


Just a quick update on this. I recompiled my kernel with ACPI_DEBUG
enabled and I can see that after physically removing and reinserting
the battery, the _STA method returns 0x1f and everything works as
expected. I guess I'm just stuck with a broken BIOS/AML and I'll make
a habit of removing and reinserting the battery of this laptop if I
really need battery charge status.

No ACPI battery/ac status readings on a ASUS UL30A laptop.

[Torbjørn H . Orskaug]

Hi misc!

I just got one of these babies as a present and put OpenBSD on it
right away. Everything seems to be running smoothly, with the single
exception of battery and ac status readings in apm(8):

Battery state: absent, 0% remaining, unknown life estimate
A/C adapter state: not known
Performance adjustment mode: auto (1300 MHz)

If however, I remove and reattach the battery, it's status is there in
all it's glory. I've poked around in acpibat.c and acpiac.c but my
experience with ACPI is pretty limited and I can't really make much
sense of it (yet). Has anyone else experienced this problem? Are there
any obvious things I can try to get things working? I'm currently
building a kernel with ACPI_DEBUG defined to see if I can get some
more information on what's going on.

dmesg:
OpenBSD 4.7-current (GENERIC.MP) #557: Tue Apr 27 00:36:31 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU U7300 @ 1.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.34 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
real mem  = 3184717824 (3037MB)
avail mem = 3089928192 (2946MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/28/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xfcce0 (41 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 212 date 12/28/2009
bios0: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. UL30A
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG SLIC ECDT DBGP BOOT OEMB HPET GSCI SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB5(S3) EUSB(S3)
USB3(S3) USB4(S3) USB6(S3) USBE(S3) HDAC(S3) P0P1(S3) P0P3(S3)
P0P5(S3) P0P6(S3) P0P7(S4) LAN_(S4) GLAN(S4) P0P8(S3) SLPB(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 205MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Genuine Intel(R) CPU U7300 @ 1.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.34 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P7)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 100 degC
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit in unknown state
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 not present
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID_
acpivideo0 at acpi0: VGA_
acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRTD
acpivout1 at acpivideo0: LCDD
acpivout2 at acpivideo0: HDMI
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfe00!
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1339 MHz: speeds: 1300, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM45 Host rev 0x07
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 10)
drm0 at inteldrm0
Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 16 (irq 10)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 21 (irq 7)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 19 (irq 3)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 18 (irq 6)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801I HD Audio rev 0x03:
apic 2 int 22 (irq 4)
azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC269, Intel/0x2802, using Realtek ALC269
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
athn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Atheros AR9285 rev 0x01: apic 2 int
17 (irq 5), address 1c:4b:d6:ba:b3:4b
athn0: AR9285 rev 2 (1T1R), ROM rev 13
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2
int 17 (irq 5)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
alc0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L2C rev 0xc0: apic
2 int 17 (irq 5), address 48:5b:39:3f:2b:f0
atphy0 at alc0 phy 0: F1 10/100/1000 PHY, rev. 11
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 23 (irq 10)
uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 19 (irq 3)
uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 18 (irq 6)
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2
int 23 (irq 10)
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM 

Re: OpenBGPD Multicast SAFI Support?

[Michael H Lambert]

On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:24, Claudio Jeker wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 04:19:33PM -0500, Michael H Lambert wrote:
 If I'm reading the manpages and latest CVS correctly, OpenBGPD does not
yet
 support SAFI_MULTICAST for either IPv4 or IPv6, although some of the hooks
 appear to be present.  Does anyone have a good feel for how much effort
would
 be required to add this functionality (or just where changes need to be
made)?
 It looks to be the big sticking point in moving from quagga to OpenBGPD.


 Why are you using MBGP? Your the first requesting this. Multicast routing
 is totaly different from unicast routing. It will need fairly massive
 changes.

I should add that we are just interested in MBGP when running as a route
server.

Michael

OpenBGPD Multicast SAFI Support?

[Michael H Lambert]

If I'm reading the manpages and latest CVS correctly, OpenBGPD does not yet
support SAFI_MULTICAST for either IPv4 or IPv6, although some of the hooks
appear to be present.  Does anyone have a good feel for how much effort would
be required to add this functionality (or just where changes need to be made)?
It looks to be the big sticking point in moving from quagga to OpenBGPD.

Thanks,

Michael

Re: OpenBGPD Multicast SAFI Support?

[Michael H Lambert]

On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:24, Claudio Jeker wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 04:19:33PM -0500, Michael H Lambert wrote:
 If I'm reading the manpages and latest CVS correctly, OpenBGPD does not
yet
 support SAFI_MULTICAST for either IPv4 or IPv6, although some of the hooks
 appear to be present.  Does anyone have a good feel for how much effort
would
 be required to add this functionality (or just where changes need to be
made)?
 It looks to be the big sticking point in moving from quagga to OpenBGPD.


 Why are you using MBGP? Your the first requesting this. Multicast routing
 is totaly different from unicast routing. It will need fairly massive
 changes.

I'll agree that multicast FORWARDING is totally different from unicast
forwarding.  However, I'm talking BGP and not PIM.  I think that populating
the RIBs is sufficient from a BGP perspective.

Michael

Re: Changing the NIC on installed system?

[Denise H. G.]

Roger Schreiter ro...@planinternet.de writes:

 Hello,

 I did not yet understand very well, how the NIC drivers are
 selected. Is it done while installing OpenBSD or is it
 done at boot?

 In the latter case, I assume, I can replace a PCI network
 interface without changing any driver settings.

NIC drivers are all in a GENERIC kernel, I think. So, if you are running
a GENERIC, you don't have to change many driver settings.


 If the logical interface name will be different, I maybe
 will have to rename hostname.vge0 to hostname.XX0 or similar.

true.


 Or are there much more changes necessary, when replacing a
 MikroTik NIC by an Intel one? System in OpenBSD-4.5


If you write your interface name at somewhere else, you have to change
them accordingly, I guess.


 Regards,
 Roger.




regards.

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