Prolem with scripts running under Apache:RegistryLoader
I have a code (not mine) that work fine witout Apache:RegistryLoader - problem is that every httpd process has ~30 MB. After using Apache:RegistryLoader process is 5 MB + 20 MB in shared mem. But than new problem appered: when work without RegLoader I have one connection do our Sybase database per process. Now I have only ONE connection (database handle - $dbh - is global) within all processes. I think this leads to my problem: database connection is being corrupted after couple of minutes (Invalid packet header, Unknown marker etc) Rewriting the could is rather not possible (~10.000 lines - not mine), so I looking for some connection polling solution (or sth else). Does anybody could help me. Pawe³ Piecuch
Re: Urgent: Can we get compiled codes(class files in java) in perl like in java
By 'compiled code ... just like that in Java' do you mean byte code? You may want to look at http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=864node_id=76685 which I found by searching for 'compiled' at perlmonks.org. Your client is making a strange request. Most people put a higher value on source code than object code, and mod_perl makes source execute as quickly as object code, on average. Side note: please wrap your lines at something like 70 characters. On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:48:51PM +0530, A.C.Sekhar wrote: Hi all , I need a help. My requirement is like this, we are developing one portal site in perl5(mod_perl)-apache-linux. our client don't want the perl source code. He want only the compiled code. Is it possible to give the compiled code in perl just like that in Java? How can we do that, plz help us in this regard and tell me what to do and how to do? This is a bit urgent... Thanks and Regards A C Sekhar -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~thecap/ 28 70 20 71 2C 65 29 61 9C B1 36 3D D4 69 CE 62 4A 22 8B 0E DC 3E
modperl@apache.org is now modperl@perl.apache.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is now [EMAIL PROTECTED] The old addresses should still work; but please use the new ones. If you change any mentions on webpages and such; please always use [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the posting address. Please let me know if you notice anything odd or broken related to this. Thanks! :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: mod_perl training companies?
A young, startup company of 15 local people (believers) is doing traning and development on mod_perl, web and system administration (Linux). We are located in Yugoslavia, Belgrade but we also work with people and companies from other countries (Canada, Germany, Cyprus, USA). Much of our expirience comes from this mailing list, perl books and jobs we've worked on abroad. We got a lot from open source community and we're giving it back. Prices are very low since our country living standard is very low and there are not many perl jobs around here, unfortunatelly. We respect all the clients we have. Our biggest accomplishment is in progress, since we've given a chance of assisting in moving old cgi-bin applications to mod-perl for www.cleverform.com (British company, rewiewed in January's edition of PC Magazine). I hope in time to come you'll be able to put this site in Powered by mod-perl section. These days we applied for Belgrade Perl Mongers since the two grops from Yu reported on pm seem that either 1) don't have a website on or 2) not to have any members You can reach us at http://www.modperldev.com (a website we're making to serve open community). - Best regards, Miroslav Madzarevic, Senior Perl Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mod Perl Development http://www.modperldev.com Telephone: +381 64 1193 501 jamph $_=,,.,,.,,,.,,,.,,,..,,.,,,.,.,,,; s/\s//gs;tr/,./05/;my(@a,$o,$i)=split//;$_=DATA;tr/~`'^/0-4/;map{$o .=$a[$i]+$_;$i++}split//;@a=$o=~m!...!g;map{print chr}@a; __DATA__ `~^`~~``^`~`~`^``~`~``''~^'`~^``'``^```~^``'```'~`~
Re: mod_perl training companies?
Miroslav Madzarevic wrote: A young, startup company of 15 local people (believers) is doing traning and development on mod_perl, web and system administration (Linux). We are located in Yugoslavia, Belgrade but we also work with people and companies from other countries (Canada, Germany, Cyprus, USA). Much of our expirience comes from this mailing list, perl books and jobs we've worked on abroad. We got a lot from open source community and we're giving it back. Prices are very low since our country living standard is very low and there are not many perl jobs around here, unfortunatelly. We respect all the clients we have. Our biggest accomplishment is in progress, since we've given a chance of assisting in moving old cgi-bin applications to mod-perl for www.cleverform.com (British company, rewiewed in January's edition of PC Magazine). I hope in time to come you'll be able to put this site in Powered by mod-perl section. These days we applied for Belgrade Perl Mongers since the two grops from Yu reported on pm seem that either 1) don't have a website on or 2) not to have any members You can reach us at http://www.modperldev.com (a website we're making to serve open community). Thanks Miroslav What's the real name of the company? may be it's just me, but I don't think it's smart to call your company modperl development. Let's say I want to refer to your company, consider: *** there is this modperl development company in Belgrade, they are very good. --- Which company you are talking about *** the modperl development company of course! --- but what company are you talking about? ... two hours later ... --- sorry, I still don't know what company you are talking about. *** the modperl company!!! Aarrrgg Hope you get the idea ;) _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
Can anyone recommend a good flavour of Cookie?
Please forgive a mod_perl wannabie [aka woza.PHP4.user] I have googled two differing flavoured cookies in the mod_perl recipe library: Apache::Cookie Apache::RequestNotes and of course, there is the 'Why not hack the HTTP_COOKIE env all by your lonesome?' peppermint flavour too! So which is it folks? Please vote for your favourite flavour of cookie for poor woza.PHP4.user Thanks in advance! Jeff. PS Any kind Debian soul might also include the name of the .deb containing said flavour? PPS Not too keen on the taste of hysterical raisins.
Re: [OT] Can anyone recommend a good flavour of Cookie?
I prefer Chips Ahoi chocolate chips cookies, but the really chunky ones;-) (sorry I could not help it...) Marcel Jeff wrote: Please forgive a mod_perl wannabie [aka woza.PHP4.user] I have googled two differing flavoured cookies in the mod_perl recipe library: Apache::Cookie Apache::RequestNotes and of course, there is the 'Why not hack the HTTP_COOKIE env all by your lonesome?' peppermint flavour too! So which is it folks? Please vote for your favourite flavour of cookie for poor woza.PHP4.user Thanks in advance! Jeff. PS Any kind Debian soul might also include the name of the .deb containing said flavour? PPS Not too keen on the taste of hysterical raisins.
Perl script for Cobalt Cube 3
I am trying to make 2 perl scripts for our cube3 since we are trying to automate the add user and delete user administration. So far I have found perl scripts to add users and groups, delete users and groups but not to add or delete mail aliases. Those scripts use these modules : Cobalt::user Cobalt::group I found that there is a Cobalt::mail module too, and figure I need to use that one too. Where can I find som info on these modules and how to use them? And can anyone give me any pointers on what else I might need (I have never programmed perl before, but there is always a first time). Thanks Thomas
Re: Virtual locations in mod_perl
Milo Hyson wrote: [snip] handler ... virtual location (i.e. one that does not directly map to anything in the server's filesystem). [snip] Hi Milo, that's easy. This is an anonymized excerpt of httpd.conf for a multilanguage shop. None of the named locations exists on the server: VirtualHost * ServerName www.myshop.xxx ServerAlias *.myshop.xxx ServerAlias myshop.xxx ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /home/myshop/public_html CustomLog /home/myshop/log/access_log combined ErrorLog /home/myshop/log/error_log ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/myshop/public_html/cgi-bin/ # This delivers the main page: LocationMatch ^(/|/index|/de|/de/|/de/index)$ SetHandler perl-script PerlSetVar Languagede PerlHandler MyShop::Index /LocationMatch # This delivers catalogue pages: Location /de/catalog SetHandler perl-script PerlSetVar Languagede PerlHandler MyShop::Catalog /Location # Detailed view of articles: Location /de/zoom SetHandler perl-script PerlSetVar Languagede PerlHandler MyShop::Zoom /Location # A search form (In/Out): Location /de/search SetHandler perl-script PerlSetVar Languagede PerlHandler MyShop::Search /Location # and more... # Same in English: LocationMatch ^(/|/index/en|/en/|/en/index)$ SetHandler perl-script PerlSetVar Languageen PerlHandler MyShop::Index /LocationMatch # and as above... /VirtualHost Hope, that helps. Ernest -- * * VIRTUALITAS Inc. * * ** * * European Consultant Office * http://www.virtualitas.net * * Internationales Handelszentrum * contact:Ernest Lergon * * Friedrichstraße 95 *mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * 10117 Berlin / Germany * ums:+49180528132130266 * *
Re: Can anyone recommend a good flavour of Cookie?
Jeff wrote: Please forgive a mod_perl wannabie [aka woza.PHP4.user] I have googled two differing flavoured cookies in the mod_perl recipe library: Apache::Cookie Apache::Cookie is a nice interface for cookies that is specific to the mod_perl environment. it parallels CGI::Cookie, except it is a C implementation so is a bit faster Apache::RequestNotes is a wrapper around Apache::Cookie (among other things) and of course, there is the 'Why not hack the HTTP_COOKIE env all by your lonesome?' peppermint flavour too! eeew, don't do that. the whole point of Apache::Cookie, CGI::Cookie (and CPAN in general) is to abstract out these things into modular components that are tried and true. using Apache::Request or CGI.pm for parsing GET and POST parameters (instead of reading from STDIN or $ENV{QUERY_STRING}) is also the preferred way. Recipes 3.5 and 3.7 in the mod_perl cookbook should be of some help. welcome to mod_perl! :) --Geoff plug http://www.modperlcookbook.org/ /plug
Re: Document Caching
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Rasoul Hajikhani wrote: Robert Landrum wrote: #startup.pl open(FILE,/path/to/tmpl); $MY::TEMPLATE .= while(FILE); close(FILE); Thanks... But I use Template Toolkit to generate a dynamic file. How would the above code work in that situation?! Not how I'd do it, although I'm pretty sure that TT2 has it's own caching mechanism, however in answer to this 'particular question' could you not overload TT's service object to use the preloaded instantiation similar, or more specialised than the one above. (SEE ALSO man Template::Service ..probably) :) fiq btw Apache::Template does let you control caching of templates in memory.
Re: Perl script for Cobalt Cube 3
Quoting Thomas Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 07:36]: I am trying to make 2 perl scripts for our cube3 since we are trying to automate the add user and delete user administration. So far I have found perl scripts to add users and groups, delete users and groups but not to add or delete mail aliases. Those scripts use these modules : Cobalt::user Cobalt::group I found that there is a Cobalt::mail module too, and figure I need to use that one too. Where can I find som info on these modules and how to use them? And can anyone give me any pointers on what else I might need (I have never programmed perl before, but there is always a first time). Can't you just open up the modules and read the source code? Let perl tell you where they are: perl -MCobalt::user -MCobalt::group -MCobalt::mail -e 'print map Cobalt::$_ = $INC{Cobalt/${_}.pm}\n, qw(user group mail)' (darren) -- Laziness is often mistaken for patience.
Re: mod_perl training companies?
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Stas Bekman wrote: Rich Bowen wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Stas Bekman wrote: I'm compiling a list of companies giving mod_perl training for our new mod_perl site. Currently I have only: http://training.gbdirect.co.uk/courses/linux/customized_and_bespoke.html If you know of other companies please send me the URL of the page advertising the mod_perl courses. My company, Cooper McGregor does a mod_perl training course. Our training page is located at http://coopermcgregor.com/training/ The course outline for the mod_perl course should be put up there today, since, for some reason, the web site guy did not have a copy of it before. Thanks Rich! I also forgot to ask you to tell me the covered regions. e.g. London only, UK only, Europe, World Wide... to help potential customers minimize their research efforts. At the moment, it is mainly just me doing the training. I will, however travel anywhere, so I suppose I would say that I am primarily based in the US, but will do training world wide. Our training facility is in central Kentucky, but we also do on-site at customer locations. -- http://www.CooperMcGregor.com/ Apache Support and Training
Re: Can anyone recommend a good flavour of Cookie?
At 9:28 AM + 3/7/02, Jeff wrote: Please forgive a mod_perl wannabie [aka woza.PHP4.user] I have googled two differing flavoured cookies in the mod_perl recipe library: Apache::Cookie Apache::RequestNotes and of course, there is the 'Why not hack the HTTP_COOKIE env all by your lonesome?' peppermint flavour too! So which is it folks? Please vote for your favourite flavour of cookie for poor woza.PHP4.user Actually, I always roll my own... I can't stand those Apache::Cookie and CGI::Cookie modules... they never seem to work the way I expect them to. Plus, decoding cookies is easy. my %cookies = map { s/\%([A-F0-9]{2})/chr(hex($1))/eg; split(/=/,$_,2); } (split(/\/,$ENV{'HTTP_COOKIE'})); Rob -- When I used a Mac, they laughed because I had no command prompt. When I used Linux, they laughed because I had no GUI.
Authentication redirection
I am attempting to redirect certain users during the authentication phase to support password expiration management. I am not having success building it directly into the authentication module and think it may be perhaps that the internal REDIRECT constant is ignored if given outside of a content handling phase. Could someone confirm this thought? I was attempting this bit of code: if ($expired eq 'true') { $r-content_type('text/html'); $r-header_out(Location = $redirect); return REDIRECT; } The behavior from this bit of code is just as if I had returned OK. My other idea is to just write a note on the board and have a downstream content handler do the redirection, but I was hoping to roll it all into one package, since the problem, password expiration, is most directly tied to authentication. Thanks, Christian - Christian Gilmore Team Lead Web Infrastructure Tools IBM Software Group
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :) I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer. I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if they even allow connections to those ports in the first place. My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey. So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =) Thanks, Fran David Simcik wrote: Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming the afforementioned? Thanks! David
Re: Authentication redirection
Christian Gilmore wrote: I am attempting to redirect certain users during the authentication phase to support password expiration management. I am not having success building it directly into the authentication module and think it may be perhaps that the internal REDIRECT constant is ignored if given outside of a content handling phase. Could someone confirm this thought? for the resource control phases the proper response is generally AUTH_REQUIRED or FORBIDDEN. AUTH_REQUIRED triggers a special set of headers, so if you're trying to bypass those, instead of using REDIRECT try returning FORBIDDEN with a custom response $r-custom_response(FORBIDDEN, $redirect_url); return FORBIDDEN; HTH --Geoff
RE: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
I use a small ISP in Cookeville to co-locate my equipment. They charge $79.00 per month for co-location charges. It is a no-frills setup, so you should provide your own UPS as they do not have power generators. They have been in business since 1995 and I don't see them going away any time soon. I wouldn't recommend putting a machine that is going to stream a lot data, but something to do a reasonable amount of ecommerce/data serving should ok for their bandwidth ( around 6Mbps with about 25 hosted servers and 300/400 dialup lines in the facility where the server would be co-located). If you, or anyone, contact them, please mention that I sent you. Thanks, Joe Breeden -Original Message- From: Fran Fabrizio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl? I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :) I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer. I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if they even allow connections to those ports in the first place. My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey. So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =) Thanks, Fran David Simcik wrote: Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming the afforementioned? Thanks! David
RE: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
I forgot their URL for those interested ( http://www.multipro.com/hosting.html ). -Original Message- From: Joe Breeden Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:39 AM To: Fran Fabrizio; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl? I use a small ISP in Cookeville to co-locate my equipment. They charge $79.00 per month for co-location charges. It is a no-frills setup, so you should provide your own UPS as they do not have power generators. They have been in business since 1995 and I don't see them going away any time soon. I wouldn't recommend putting a machine that is going to stream a lot data, but something to do a reasonable amount of ecommerce/data serving should ok for their bandwidth ( around 6Mbps with about 25 hosted servers and 300/400 dialup lines in the facility where the server would be co-located). If you, or anyone, contact them, please mention that I sent you. Thanks, Joe Breeden -Original Message- From: Fran Fabrizio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl? I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :) I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer. I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if they even allow connections to those ports in the first place. My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey. So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =) Thanks, Fran David Simcik wrote: Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming the afforementioned? Thanks! David
Re: mod_perl training companies?
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 01:17, Stas Bekman wrote: *** there is this modperl development company in Belgrade, they are very good. --- Which company you are talking about *** the modperl development company of course! --- but what company are you talking about? ... two hours later ... --- sorry, I still don't know what company you are talking about. *** the modperl company!!! Aarrrgg Hope you get the idea ;) Don't you watch That 70s show? David -- David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 15726394 http://david.wheeler.net/ Yahoo!: dew7e Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where is libperl.so.1?
Hi there, I've installed an apache build I did onto a Solaris 2.6 box, and when I try to start it I get the following error message: ld.so.1: /opt/apache_1.3.22/bin/httpd: fatal: libperl.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed I can't find libperl.so on either the original box, or the box I'm installing to. Can anyone help me out please? Thanks for any help, JS. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: Document Caching
Cahill, Earl wrote: I would not be opposed to calling a different, more standard function to check the cache (set up in a more standard way), and then fetch accordingly. Look at how the Memoize module does it. You may be able to do something similar that would allow caching to be added easilly to any pure virtual function. - Perrin
Re: PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
upgrades for applications that maintain state - since a user might have a session created using a new-code box, then hit an old-code box on the next page view. it takes us many minutes to work through restarting the entire array. were you ever concerned about something like that? I only learned this yesterday by reading Perrin's eToys article, but their concept of sticky load balancing was interesting. They had a proxy server in front of the app servers. The proxy assigned session keys, and made sure that if you came back in on the same session you got assigned to the same app server. I thought that was a neat idea and would solve this particular problem. -Fran
Re: where is libperl.so.1?
I forgot to mention that mod-perl1.26 is compiled into the apache build (statically) as well. Hi there, I've installed an apache build I did onto a Solaris 2.6 box, and when I try to start it I get the following error message: ld.so.1: /opt/apache_1.3.22/bin/httpd: fatal: libperl.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed I can't find libperl.so on either the original box, or the box I'm installing to. Can anyone help me out please? Thanks for any help, JS. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
I'm looking at how to best avoid downtime during a code upgrade, as we often do spot releases of critical code fixes and we're getting to the usage level that I don't want to interrupt service to deploy that code. At the same time, I want to avoid running 200 stat()'s per request for all of the loaded modules. We're presently running in this configuration: Apache 1.3.22 static mod_perl 1.26 Apache::StatINC --Want to get rid of it. PerlFreshRestart OFF I see three options open to me: 1. static mod_perl w/ PerlFreshRestart Reloads %INC. downside: Heresay claims historical instablity. 2. dynamic mod_perl Tears down cleans up Perl interpreter on graceful restart. downside: Heresay claims historical instablity. 3. static mod_perl w/ Apache::StatInc Runs many stat()'s per request. downside: Runs many stat()'s per request. Aside from the historical instability, the second option strikes me as the cleanest and most robust. How has the current stability of these mechanisms? Is it enterprise-worthy? I'm variously running on RedHat Linux 7.0 and 7.1. -- Gordon Henriksen IT Engineering ICLUBcentral Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Fran Fabrizio wrote: My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey. So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =) If you had something like Speakeasy DSL or a similar provider that allows you to run your own servers, you can run a server out of your house and use mod_perl and have fun. -- Brett http://www.chapelperilous.net/ What the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying. -- Nikita Khrushchev
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
If you had something like Speakeasy DSL or a similar provider that allows you to run your own servers, you can run a server out of your house and use mod_perl and have fun. -- Brett I actually have BellSouth dsl. I've never perused their acceptable use policy, but I never thought it was a good idea to host a site at home because of a lot of thingsI have to open port 80 and then I'd have to worry even more about security, it's dynamic IP and my IP refreshes fairly regularly and the dyndns service that I use sometimes lags by as much as 15 minutes in its updates. I live in a thunderstorm-rich area, our power is constantly going out, etc... then again, what I'd like to host isn't mission critical so maybe I'll rethink that...I've gotten some good feedback so far, thanks to everyone! I still would like to find either an ISP or a colo, because the other half of it is that I do a good deal of freelance work on sites, and having the option to resell a hosting agreement that supports mod_perl and then having mod_perl at my disposal for app development is attractive. I certainly would not want to host that kind of thing at home. -Fran
Re: where is libperl.so.1?
so if it's statically compiled, why are you using LoadModule? Issac J S wrote: Hi there, I've installed an apache build I did onto a Solaris 2.6 box, and when I try to start it I get the following error message: ld.so.1: /opt/apache_1.3.22/bin/httpd: fatal: libperl.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed I can't find libperl.so on either the original box, or the box I'm installing to. Can anyone help me out please? Thanks for any help, JS. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
Gordon Henriksen wrote: I'm looking at how to best avoid downtime during a code upgrade, as we often do spot releases of critical code fixes and we're getting to the usage level that I don't want to interrupt service to deploy that code. At the same time, I want to avoid running 200 stat()'s per request for all of the loaded modules. look into the touchfile option in Apache::Reload - that might help some. --Geoff
Re: PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
Gordon Henriksen wrote: I see three options open to me: 1. static mod_perl w/ PerlFreshRestart Reloads %INC. downside: Heresay claims historical instablity. 2. dynamic mod_perl Tears down cleans up Perl interpreter on graceful restart. downside: Heresay claims historical instablity. 3. static mod_perl w/ Apache::StatInc Runs many stat()'s per request. downside: Runs many stat()'s per request. Frankly, those options all suck for anything other than development servers. A production server on a busy site needs to be fully stopped and restarted when you upgrade your code. Doing anything else is just asking for trouble (strange closure issues, for example) and will trash your shared memory to boot. The best way I've found to deal with this problem is to have multiple servers behind a load-balancer and do a rolling restart. If you have servers A and B, you take A out of the load balancer temporarilly, upgrade it, add it back in, take B out, upgrade it, add it back in. Using this technique, we were able to smoothly upgrade production servers on a very busy cluster of machines during normal business hours while customers were on the site. - Perrin
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Hello. Sorry my bad English. There is ISP Zenon http://zenon.net I think Zenon is the best of those providing professional hosting services and they rank first by number of clients hosted in Russia. They offer personal httpd with mod_perl (running as backend), shell, gcc, personal MySQL and PostgreSQL DBs etc. for $45/month. They also pay a lot of attention to security (for example, personal httpd is actually given to each client even on smaller plans where you don't have access to httpd.conf, so users cannot walk by each other account data etc.) Unfortunatly English part of their site is very poor and I don't know if they provide same good international services as local. But may be you will have success with them! Sergey. - Original Message - From: Fran Fabrizio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl? I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :) I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer. I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if they even allow connections to those ports in the first place. My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey. So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =) Thanks, Fran David Simcik wrote: Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming the afforementioned? Thanks! David
Re: PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
The best way I've found to deal with this problem is to have multiple servers behind a load-balancer and do a rolling restart. If you have servers A and B, you take A out of the load balancer temporarilly, upgrade it, add it back in, take B out, upgrade it, add it back in. Using this technique, we were able to smoothly upgrade production servers on a very busy cluster of machines during normal business hours while customers were on the site. we do that frequently here - 7 servers behind a BigIP. I've always wondered, though, whether this approach is foolproof for major upgrades for applications that maintain state - since a user might have a session created using a new-code box, then hit an old-code box on the next page view. it takes us many minutes to work through restarting the entire array. were you ever concerned about something like that? --Geoff
Re: segfaulting upon request
Hi there, On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Steev Hise wrote: I'm having trouble with the latest version of mod_perl and apache. (version 1.26 with apache 1.3.23) upon startup there's a segmentation fault upon any http request. i'd be grateful for any assistance. [snip] i built modperl and apache like this: [snip] here's details of the machine: -- on redhat 7.0 linux i686, kernel 2.2.19-7.0.1smp -- perl -V Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 1) configuration: Platform: -- osname=linux, osvers=2.2.16-22smp, archname=i686-linux -- Hmmm. That's interesting... do I smell RPMs? 73, Ged.
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Fran Fabrizio wrote: I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :) I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer. I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if they even allow connections to those ports in the first place. My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey. So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =) You might look at ISPs that offer virtual server (as opposed to vhost) hosting. For example Netmode- http://www.netmode.com -offers dedicated IP hosting starting at about $50.00/month. You get a shell account and can compile and run anything you want (as long as it doesn't do anything destructive), and connect to any privileged or non-privileged port. You get your own apache process. You can set up vhosts and resell the hosting if that's your cup of tea. The downside is that their ulimits on memory are quite low. I tried to compile postgres and failed because gcc uses a _lot_ of memory compiling bison generated parsers. I still haven't written to them about this- it may be that they are just using FreeBSD default settings which are quite stingy if I recall correctly. Anyway, if you don't need to handle heavy traffic it's a flexible, affordable setup. And the servers include a dynamically loadable mod_perl by default. TagoreSmith
Re: PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
Geoffrey Young wrote: we do that frequently here - 7 servers behind a BigIP. I've always wondered, though, whether this approach is foolproof for major upgrades for applications that maintain state - since a user might have a session created using a new-code box, then hit an old-code box on the next page view. it takes us many minutes to work through restarting the entire array. were you ever concerned about something like that? We also used BigIP, with the sticky load-balancing option on. (Well, we used two, and only the application servers were sticky. It didn't matter which proxy/web server you went to.) This prevents the problem you're talking about. Of course if the upgrade involves changing some shared resource like a database as well, you have to take the site off-line while you do it. I suppose it's possible to rig up something crazy with multiple databases and synchronization, but it's just not worth it. - Perrin
Re: where is libperl.so.1?
Not sure I understand your answer. I'm not using LoadModule. JS. so if it's statically compiled, why are you using LoadModule? Issac J S wrote: Hi there, I've installed an apache build I did onto a Solaris 2.6 box, and when I try to start it I get the following error message: ld.so.1: /opt/apache_1.3.22/bin/httpd: fatal: libperl.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed I can't find libperl.so on either the original box, or the box I'm installing to. Can anyone help me out please? Thanks for any help, JS. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: Authentication redirection
$r-headers_out-set(Location = /whatever); $r-status(REDIRECT); $r-send_http_header; I belive this will work for you. END -- Philip M. Gollucci (p6m7g8) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 301.314.3118 Science, Discovery, the Universe (UMCP) Webmaster Webship Teacher URL: http://www.sdu.umd.edu EJPress.com Database/PERL Programmer System Admin URL : http://www.ejournalpress.com Resume : http://p6m7g8.com/Work/index.html On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Christian Gilmore wrote: I am attempting to redirect certain users during the authentication phase to support password expiration management. I am not having success building it directly into the authentication module and think it may be perhaps that the internal REDIRECT constant is ignored if given outside of a content handling phase. Could someone confirm this thought? I was attempting this bit of code: if ($expired eq 'true') { $r-content_type('text/html'); $r-header_out(Location = $redirect); return REDIRECT; } The behavior from this bit of code is just as if I had returned OK. My other idea is to just write a note on the board and have a downstream content handler do the redirection, but I was hoping to roll it all into one package, since the problem, password expiration, is most directly tied to authentication. Thanks, Christian - Christian Gilmore Team Lead Web Infrastructure Tools IBM Software Group
Re: where is libperl.so.1?
*looks again* oops... I didn't look close enough at tyhe error, assumed it couldn't find mod_perl.so *hits himself in head*. Did you install perl yourself? If so, you may want to make sure that the directory containing the libperl.so file (usually TOP_LEVEL/libexec/) is included in the file /etc/ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig as root. That might help... Issac J S wrote: Not sure I understand your answer. I'm not using LoadModule. JS. so if it's statically compiled, why are you using LoadModule? Issac J S wrote: Hi there, I've installed an apache build I did onto a Solaris 2.6 box, and when I try to start it I get the following error message: ld.so.1: /opt/apache_1.3.22/bin/httpd: fatal: libperl.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed I can't find libperl.so on either the original box, or the box I'm installing to. Can anyone help me out please? Thanks for any help, JS.
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming the afforementioned? Secure Level provides mod_perl hosting. We have two packages. The first is $80/month, and you get 4gb throughput, your own httpd/IP address, no memory limits (as long as you don't kill the server) and 25 Mb storage space. Its $65/month if you pre-pay one year. The second package is $10 less a month if you dont need your own IP address, and want to run on a non-standard port. Our facility is fed by 18 OC-192 connections, so heavy traffic isn't that much of an issue. http://www.securelevel.com Marc Slagle
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Hello My company and Simplicity Ltd. are offering dedicated hosting, this includes: - A or some virtual host with access to own httpd.conf over Webmin - Ability to restart the server (!). - DNS for multiple hosts/domains, also the ones not with us. - FTP access by dedicated IP. - Mail domain and account mgmt. over Webmin. - Standard stats per domain. - Optionally mySQL account. - And of course mod_perl installed! - HTML::Mason ready (others upon request) - Midgard ready (sorry to mention this :-) The price? This might be very individual, not much cheaper than others (the economic ones). It really depends on traffic 10 MB or 10 GB per Month (including mail) or on additional RAM load (no cache limits, sexy servers). We specialize on individual services for SMB's who want to keep control over basic technologies. Feel free to give some details on your hosting project and you will get a straight offer. Best Regards C.Hauser - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - . IT assistance Ltd. Lange Gasse 6 CH-4052 Basel . == beginn original == Date: Mittwoch, 6. März 2002, 17:47:24 Subject: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl? Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming the afforementioned? Thanks! David === end original
Re: where is libperl.so.1?
Quoting J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 12:18]: I've installed an apache build I did onto a Solaris 2.6 box, and when I try to start it I get the following error message: ld.so.1: /opt/apache_1.3.22/bin/httpd: fatal: libperl.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed I can't find libperl.so on either the original box, or the box I'm installing to. Can anyone help me out please? You shouldn't need to find libperl.so if you've built it statically. For example: Here is my httpd: $ /usr/local/apache/1.3.22/bin/httpd-modperl1.25-perl5.00503 -l Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_env.c mod_log_config.c mod_mime.c mod_negotiation.c mod_status.c mod_info.c mod_include.c mod_autoindex.c mod_dir.c mod_cgi.c mod_actions.c mod_alias.c mod_rewrite.c mod_access.c mod_auth.c mod_proxy.c mod_so.c mod_setenvif.c mod_perl.c Here is what it's using: $ ldd /usr/local/apache/1.3.22/bin/httpd-modperl1.25-perl5.00503 libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40019000) libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40037000) libdb.so.3 = /lib/libdb.so.3 (0x40064000) libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4009f000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x400b5000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400b9000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) No libperl.so. Are you sure you're trying to start the correct httpd? (darren) -- I must say I find television very educational. The minute somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a good book. -- Grouchy Marx
Re: where is libperl.so.1?
darren chamberlain writes: Quoting J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 07, 2002 12:18]: I've installed an apache build I did onto a Solaris 2.6 box, and when I try to start it I get the following error message: ld.so.1: /opt/apache_1.3.22/bin/httpd: fatal: libperl.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory Killed I can't find libperl.so on either the original box, or the box I'm installing to. Can anyone help me out please? You shouldn't need to find libperl.so if you've built it statically. He does need libperl.so if he built *perl* to use a shared libperl instead of a static libperl.a I guess setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH correctly (to include /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.x/i386-linux/CORE or wherever the main perl library is located on that box) should fix the problem. Michael -- Michael Peppler Data Migrations, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *or* [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mbay.net/~mpeppler International Sybase User Group: http://www.isug.com
Re: segfaulting upon request
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ged Haywood wrote: - on redhat 7.0 linux i686, kernel 2.2.19-7.0.1smp --- - perl -V - Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 1) configuration: - Platform: --- - osname=linux, osvers=2.2.16-22smp, archname=i686-linux --- - -Hmmm. That's interesting... do I smell RPMs? well all redhat machines have some RPMs on them, if that's what you mean. but i didnt use any rpms when i built apache, modssl, php, and modperl. so i'm not sure what you mean or how your comment is intended to help. best, Steev Hise, Information Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datamassage.com - Getting programmers to write documentation is almost as hard as getting them to wear ties -Larry Wall, et.al, 'Programming Perl' -
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello My company and Simplicity Ltd. are offering dedicated hosting, this includes: - A or some virtual host with access to own httpd.conf over Webmin - Ability to restart the server (!). - DNS for multiple hosts/domains, also the ones not with us. - FTP access by dedicated IP. - Mail domain and account mgmt. over Webmin. - Standard stats per domain. - Optionally mySQL account. - And of course mod_perl installed! - HTML::Mason ready (others upon request) - Midgard ready (sorry to mention this :-) The price? This might be very individual, not much cheaper than others (the economic ones). It really depends on traffic 10 MB or 10 GB per Month (including mail) or on additional RAM load (no cache limits, sexy servers). We specialize on individual services for SMB's who want to keep control over basic technologies. Feel free to give some details on your hosting project and you will get a straight offer. Guys, if you want to be listed here: http://perl.apache.org/isp.html You must provide the URL advertising your service (assuming that you provide mod_perl hosting). Thanks! _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
Re: PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
We had been using Option 1 for a long time we had absolutely no problems (with mod_perl-1.19/Apache-1.3.14/Perl-5.005). However on upgrading to mod_perl-1.26, we were getting hell lot of errors. I have tracked this to a bug in perl_util.c on fixing this PerlFreshRestart works w/o any problems. I have posted this details 2/3 weeks back but haven't got any reply. I had to go for option 1, since I was not sure about DSO StatINC does stats() for every request that comes in - not too good. (even with a touchfile, it has to do stat() !) Sreeji --- Gordon Henriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at how to best avoid downtime during a code upgrade, as we often do spot releases of critical code fixes and we're getting to the usage level that I don't want to interrupt service to deploy that code. At the same time, I want to avoid running 200 stat()'s per request for all of the loaded modules. We're presently running in this configuration: Apache 1.3.22 static mod_perl 1.26 Apache::StatINC --Want to get rid of it. PerlFreshRestart OFF I see three options open to me: 1. static mod_perl w/ PerlFreshRestart Reloads %INC. downside: Heresay claims historical instablity. 2. dynamic mod_perl Tears down cleans up Perl interpreter on graceful restart. downside: Heresay claims historical instablity. 3. static mod_perl w/ Apache::StatInc Runs many stat()'s per request. downside: Runs many stat()'s per request. Aside from the historical instability, the second option strikes me as the cleanest and most robust. How has the current stability of these mechanisms? Is it enterprise-worthy? I'm variously running on RedHat Linux 7.0 and 7.1. -- Gordon Henriksen IT Engineering ICLUBcentral Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com
Re: PerlFreshRestart, mod_perl DSO, and Apache::StatINC
We had been using Option 1 for a long time we had absolutely no problems But doesn't it totally wreck your shared memory? For me that would make it unusable. I usually get a pretty large percentage of memory to be shared and count on that for getting maximum capacity from each box. - Perrin
[Patch] Apache::ProxyPassThru
Ask, here is a patch for Apache::ProxyPassThru, fixing the bug that multiple response headers are mungled into one (like double Set-Cookie:s) I should apply this with my own proxy modules ... :) --- ProxyPassThru.pm~ Tue Aug 21 08:06:24 2001 +++ ProxyPassThru.pmFri Mar 8 15:23:04 2002 -33,8 +33,9 #feed reponse back into our request_rec* $r-status($res-code); $r-status_line($res-status_line); +my $table = $r-headers_out; $res-scan(sub { - $r-header_out(_); + $table-add(_); }); $r-send_http_header();
cvs commit: modperl-site index.html
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