Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-05 Thread wookie

At 12:39 PM 2/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> > Also I noted that in the guide most paramters are listed in the
>> > blue boxes as PERL-* instead of PERL_*. This could be confusing to
>> > newcomers.

>> Excuse me? There is no a single PERL- in there.

>I am not sure what is going on here. You are right! In Netscape it appears
>correctly as underscores. But in IE5 on my machine it does use hyphens
>everywhere! (IE5 bug? Could someone please verify this?).

In the guide (ie.
http://perl.apache.org/guide/install.html#Discovering_whether_some_option_)
search for the text PERL_HEADER_PARSER. (for one who asked what this was
about).

It looks correct in IE5 - I am viewing it on an NT.  Netscape is good too.

off topic: The blue boxes look purple to me, but that can be a matter of
video cards. 

Maria





Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Stas Bekman

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, G.W. Haywood wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> More topical:
> 
> Well I think we've done that one.  It seems that if not actually an
> error the documents conspire to confuse.  Certainly one for the errata
> even if it's not really wrong.  I have a couple of dozen other notes
> about the Eagle Book, is there a CVS snapshot of the errata somewhere?
> Or something like that?  I'd be glad to contribute/modify/whatever.

Ged, please send the reports directly to Doug or submit them thru the
errata page at oreilly.com. See my previous replies with this very subject
for the exact URL.

> PS: Stas, erratum = one of them.  Er, it.
>   errata = more than one of them:)

Mea culpa :)


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Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

More topical:

Well I think we've done that one.  It seems that if not actually an
error the documents conspire to confuse.  Certainly one for the errata
even if it's not really wrong.  I have a couple of dozen other notes
about the Eagle Book, is there a CVS snapshot of the errata somewhere?
Or something like that?  I'd be glad to contribute/modify/whatever.

Less topical:

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Bakki Kudva wrote:

> the word hyphen (according to Webster) from Greek hyph'hen meaning
> "under one" would seem to mean the underscore while the punctuation
> mark for hyphen is '-'.

Would this be an electronic Webster?  It's a little short on content.

The word `hyphen' is late latin.  Its first recorded use in English
seems to be about 1620 [OED].  It means in Latin exactly what we mean
by it today.  The simliar Greek word of the four (er, Greek) letters
upsilon-phi-epsilon-nu means a symbol like the one which is used with
the phonetic alphabet (at least in England) to denote a short vowel
such as both `a's in `amoeba'.  It looks like an upside-down curved
cicumflex or an opening parthenthesis rotated anti-clockwise through
90 degrees.  It is always placed over the vowel.

Sorry, nohow do we get anything you could call an underscore.

73,
Ged.

PS: Stas, erratum = one of them.  Er, it.
  errata = more than one of them:)



Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

It looks like you have all your questions answered now, but I have one
or two.

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Bakki Kudva wrote:

> I read the guide and there is no mention of this. Also I noted that
> in the guide most paramters are listed in the blue boxes as PERL-*
> instead of PERL_*.

Stas is right, there is no instance of PERL- in his Guide.  And what's
this about blue boxes?  Don't forget that some of us worry so much
about x-rays and our eyes (or are so old-fashioned) that we still use
monochrome screens for the serious stuff...

So where did you get this `guide' and what referred you to it?  We
should find it and try to prevent other people being led astray by it.

73,
Ged.



Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Bakki Kudva

A big THANK YOU to all for clarifying the usage of this file.

bakki

> So both work, depending on where the file is. I use the .makepl... form,
in my $HOME
> dir, so that I don't have to edit a new one for every new version. :)
>
> David McCabe  Unix SysAdmin/Peon




Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Bakki Kudva

> > Also I noted that in the guide most paramters are listed in the
> > blue boxes as PERL-* instead of PERL_*. This could be confusing to
> > newcomers.
>
> Excuse me? There is no a single PERL- in there.

I am not sure what is going on here. You are right! In Netscape it appears
correctly as underscores. But in IE5 on my machine it does use hyphens
everywhere! (IE5 bug? Could someone please verify this?) But when I cut &
paste from it I do get the correct form  "PERL_HEADER_PARSER" as an example.
Just an interesting aside here is that meaning of the word hyphen (according
to Webster) from Greek hyph'hen meaning "under one" would seem to mean the
underscore while the punctuation mark for hyphen is '-'.

> > Finally is there a way to find out which hooks are actually turned on in
a
> > compiled HTTPD?
>
> http://perl.apache.org/guide/install.html#Discovering_whether_some_option_
>
> Hope this helps!

Thank you Stas...sorry I missed that.

bakki




RE: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Eric Cholet wrote:

> >A newbie question. Though I have successfully built mod_perl from command
> >line parameters I decided to try the .makepl_args.mod_perl file method from
> >the Eagle book. I had EVERYTHING=1 as the first line in this file but when I
> >run I get...
> 
> It's makepl_args.mod_perl, not .makepl_args.mod_perl (no leading dot)

Depends on where you put the file:

(from Makefile.PL)

for (qw(./ ../), "$ENV{HOME}/.") {
last if $fh = FileHandle->new($file = $_."makepl_args.mod_perl");
}


 - ask

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Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread David McCabe

> From: Bakki Kudva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 11:52:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl
> To: modperl-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Thank you, Eric. Looks like the Eagle book has an error then. Is there an
> errata for it some where? I don't see it on their home page.
> 
> > It's makepl_args.mod_perl, not .makepl_args.mod_perl (no leading dot)

>From the eg/makepl_args.mod_perl file, included in the mod_perl 1.21 distribution:

#example makepl_args.mod_perl files
#copy this file to $ENV{HOME}/.makepl_args.mod_perl and edit to taste

#mod_perl's Makefile.PL will also look for this file in ./ ../ relative
#to the mod_perl-x.xx source tree

So both work, depending on where the file is. I use the .makepl... form, in my $HOME
dir, so that I don't have to edit a new one for every new version. :)



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Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Stas Bekman

> Thank you, Eric. Looks like the Eagle book has an error then. Is there an
> errata for it some where? I don't see it on their home page.

It's a typo indeed, several occurences at the page 649.

The Errata is available from the place it's supposed to be -- the
publisher's site:  http://www.ora.com/catalog/wrapmod/errata/

Doug, will you please link to this page from www.modperl.com ? 

Bakki, you have spotted the one which is not on the list.

I've just submitted this errata to O'Reilly thru:
http://www.oreilly.com/cgi-bin/errata.form/wrapmod


> > >A newbie question. Though I have successfully built mod_perl from command
> > >line parameters I decided to try the .makepl_args.mod_perl file method
> from
> > >the Eagle book. I had EVERYTHING=1 as the first line in this file but
> when I
> > >run I get...
> >
> > It's makepl_args.mod_perl, not .makepl_args.mod_perl (no leading dot)
> >
> > --
> > Eric
> 
> 
> 



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Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Bakki Kudva

Thank you, Eric. Looks like the Eagle book has an error then. Is there an
errata for it some where? I don't see it on their home page.

bakki

> >A newbie question. Though I have successfully built mod_perl from command
> >line parameters I decided to try the .makepl_args.mod_perl file method
from
> >the Eagle book. I had EVERYTHING=1 as the first line in this file but
when I
> >run I get...
>
> It's makepl_args.mod_perl, not .makepl_args.mod_perl (no leading dot)
>
> --
> Eric




Re: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Stas Bekman

> A newbie question. Though I have successfully built mod_perl from command
> line parameters I decided to try the .makepl_args.mod_perl file method from
> the Eagle book. I had EVERYTHING=1 as the first line in this file but when I
> run I get...
> 
> PerlDispatchHandler.disabled (enable with PERL_DISPATCH=1)
> PerlChildInitHandlerenabled
> PerlChildExitHandlerenabled
> PerlPostReadRequestHandler..disabled (enable with PERL_POST_READ_REQUEST=1)
> PerlTransHandlerdisabled (enable with PERL_TRANS=1)
> PerlHeaderParserHandler.disabled (enable with PERL_HEADER_PARSER=1)
> PerlAccessHandler...disabled (enable with PERL_ACCESS=1)
> PerlAuthenHandler...disabled (enable with PERL_AUTHEN=1)
> PerlAuthzHandlerdisabled (enable with PERL_AUTHZ=1)
> PerlTypeHandler.disabled (enable with PERL_TYPE=1)
> PerlFixupHandlerdisabled (enable with PERL_FIXUP=1)
> PerlHandler.enabled
> PerlLogHandler..disabled (enable with PERL_LOG=1)
> PerlInitHandler.disabled (enable with PERL_INIT=1)
> PerlCleanupHandler..disabled (enable with PERL_CLEANUP=1)
> PerlStackedHandlers.disabled (enable with PERL_STACKED_HANDLERS=1)
> PerlMethodHandlers..disabled (enable with PERL_METHOD_HANDLERS=1)
> PerlDirectiveHandlers...disabled (enable with PERL_DIRECTIVE_HANDLERS=1)
> PerlTableApidisabled (enable with PERL_TABLE_API=1)
> PerlLogApi..disabled (enable with PERL_LOG_API=1)
> PerlUriApi..disabled (enable with PERL_URI_API=1)
> PerlUtilApi.disabled (enable with PERL_UTIL_API=1)
> PerlFileApi.disabled (enable with PERL_FILE_API=1)
> PerlConnectionApi...enabled
> PerlServerApi...enabled
> PerlSectionsdisabled (enable with PERL_SECTIONS=1)
> 
> PerlSSI.disabled (enable with PERL_SSI=1)
> 
> Can some one tell me how to turn on all callback hooks from this file? (not
> that I really need all the hooks) I read the guide and there is no mention
> of this. 

You probably read the wrong guide. It's 'makepl_args.mod_perl' not
'.makepl_args.mod_perl' (notice the redundant dot)
http://perl.apache.org/guide/install.html#Reusing_Configuration_Parameters

> Also I noted that in the guide most paramters are listed in the
> blue boxes as PERL-* instead of PERL_*. This could be confusing to
> newcomers.

Excuse me? There is no a single PERL- in there. 

> Finally is there a way to find out which hooks are actually turned on in a
> compiled HTTPD?

http://perl.apache.org/guide/install.html#Discovering_whether_some_option_

Hope this helps!

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RE: .makepl_args.mod_perl

2000-02-04 Thread Eric Cholet

>A newbie question. Though I have successfully built mod_perl from command
>line parameters I decided to try the .makepl_args.mod_perl file method from
>the Eagle book. I had EVERYTHING=1 as the first line in this file but when I
>run I get...

It's makepl_args.mod_perl, not .makepl_args.mod_perl (no leading dot)

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