Re: [MOPO] King Kong One-Sheet

[Phil Edwards]

The 27x39 size (bigger than the original Portals) and the close-ups of the 
all-too-obvious moire effect mark this as the repro of the Portal that was 
floating around in the 1980s at commercial poster outlets.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Conway 
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  Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] King Kong One-Sheet


  Probably trimmed of the "Portal Puiblications"



-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Potokar 
Sent: Feb 28, 2010 3:30 AM 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] King Kong One-Sheet 

i actually wrote this seller, asking about any printers info on the bottom 
border. (there didnt appear to be any). i also asked what the dimensions are. 


he wrote me back, saying that it was 27x39; he thought the bottom of the 
poster had been trimmed so that it would fit in the frame, so all the priners 
info was gone.


sounded a little "iffy" to me..


jeff






On Feb 27, 2010, at 10:17 PM, channinglylethomson wrote:


  Anyone know the story on this EBAY listing? 


  
http://cgi.ebay.com/Look-King-Kong-is-at-Ebay-An-Original-1933-Fay-Ray_W0QQitemZ170447847819


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[MOPO] OT: Interesting side-light on Meg's run for office.... from Auctionbytes Newsletter

[Phil Edwards]

Meg Whitman's Use of eBay Corporate Jets Becomes Campaign Issue

After stepping down as President and CEO of eBay, Meg Whitman has 
brought attention to the online marketplace as she campaigns for 
governor of California. But it's not just Ms. Whitman who is 
bringing eBay into the spotlight. An organization opposed to her 
candidacy is hoping to shine a negative spotlight on her tenure 
at eBay.
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y10/m03/i01/s02

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Re: [MOPO] Ryan O'Neal 'Disappointed' That Farrah Fawcett Was Excluded From Oscars Tribute

[Phil Edwards]

Ms Fawcett appeared in 12 feature films, starring and/or co-starring in a 
few of these.
She also worked steadily in TV series, again starring or co-starring in 
several.


I'm wondering why she was left out of the Memorium segment as well.

As for 10 Best Pictures, and only 5 nominations in the Best Director 
caregory, I am reminded of DRIVING MISS DAISY, which, at teh time, was 
referred to by several people as the Best Picture That Directed Itself.


I thought this year's Oscars was a pretty tawdry affair. Thoroughly 
undernourished. Tom Hanks desultory announcement that this year's winner was 
a groundbreaker was a cheap attempt to make both Lee Daniels and Katherine 
Bigelow just sweat a little more.


Phil


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Ryan O'Neal 'Disappointed' That Farrah Fawcett Was 
Excluded From Oscars Tribute



A rep for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences that Fawcett's 
ommission was "not an oversight."


There was apparently some additional criticism that they also left out Bea 
Arthur who starred in the movie Lovers and Other Strangers but obviously 
best known as a TV actress.


I guess they have to draw the line somewhere but I can understand how some 
people would be upset at the ommissions.


John




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Excluded From Oscars Tribute




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Re: [MOPO] Fangs ARE what they used to be!

[Phil Edwards]

LET THE RIGHT ONE IN is a terrific film. One doesn't even have to like 
"horror films" to like and appreciate it's skillful use of mood and 
atmosphere. A classic vampire film.


Now I am going to watch DRACULA 2000 to catch up on my vampiric cravings

Phil



- Original Message - 
From: "Greg" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Where is everybody?



Nathalie,
Great horror is still being made, post Universal. Check out "Let the Right 
One In", a Swedish vampire film that knocked my socks off last year.
"Twilight" is indeed crap for the kiddies. The book blew too. I tried to 
be in touch with my youthful side, but poop still floats, as a pal of mine 
used to say.
Is the Harry Potter series starting to bore the socks off anyone else, by 
the way?

Greg D
Steven Yafet wrote:
It would have been lovely to see a Karloff and a Lugosi and a Chaney up 
there.  Sorry, I think the Twilight series is pablum junk.


I had heard about the theater and Tarantino and thought it was great.
Best,

Nathalie



On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Toochis Morin > wrote:


Hi Nathalie,
 I couldn't agree more but I've heard so much backlash against this
young man and it's really the old farts at the Academy who are
trying to appeal to the "young".  Whatever.  They should be
ashamed.  I'm encouraged that Quentin Tarantino has bought the New
Beverly revival theater in LA.  Its audience is young and he
educates them with classic movies.
 Cheers,
Toochis

*From:* Steven Yafet mailto:sya...@gmail.com>>
*To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

*Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 1:17:25 AM

*Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Where is everybody?

Toochis,

I can appreciate your point of view, but did they even consider
asking Sara Karloff, Bela George Lugosi and Ron Chaney?  And what
about Gloria Stuart or Carla Laemmle or even Tim Burton?  In
looking over Taylor Lautner's IMDB bio, it seems that he has very
little background in horror films.  I'll give the young man credit
for working hard, but it would have been far more respectful to a
genre that gets no respect to have this segment introduced by
people with more gravitas.  And who was responsible for compiling
this montage?  Where was Val Lewton in all this?  Why all the
slasher film stuff?  Badly done from start to finish.

Nathalie


On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Toochis Morin mailto:fly...@pacbell.net>> wrote:

I think it's more of an attempt to get genre films recognized
by the Academy.  Of those 2 young people who introduced  the
films, Taylor Lautner is a rising star.  He has taken his work
seriously by training hard in his voice, acting and his body. He 
is professional and grateful for every opportunity he is

getting. Also he is easy on the eyes.  Go team Jacob!
 Toochis

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*Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 12:30:12 AM

*Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Where is everybody?

Still reeling from the horror movie homage so charmlessly
introduced by those two twilight duds.  Obviously more
appropriate people were not available ;)  If you blinked, you
missed the one or two seconds of classic horror.  What was
this supposed to accomplish?

Nathalie

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Doug Taylor
mailto:douglasbtay...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Am I missing something?  There seems to have been
virtually no MOPO traffic the last few days…not even the
normal running dialogue trashing the Oscar presentation.


Whatup?


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Re: [MOPO] Good Golly Miss Molly: There's still 163 items under $2 ending tomorrow

[Phil Edwards]

Gordon Bennett!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:28 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] Good Golly Miss Molly: There's still 163 items under $2 
ending tomorrow


  Heaven's to Betsy I still have a whopping 163 items that have current bids of 
less than $2.00 and good golly Miss Molly these auctions only have a little 
more than 24 hours to go before they end.

  Click Here to See a Gallery of the posters being sold in this auction 

  Click Here to Go to the Auctions www.movieposterbid.com 

  Remember folks.. there ain't no sunshine when these goes to another collector 
so you better beat the feet to MoviePosterBid.com right now because a stitch in 
nine saves time!!

  here are all the auctions currently under $2.00

BITTER SWEET 1962R HS .. Jeanette MacDonald, Nelson Eddy$0.99  
CHOCOLATE SOLDIER 1962R HS .. Jeannette MacDonald, Nelson Eddy$0.99  
FIREFLY 1962R HS .. Jeanette MacDonald, Allan Jones, Warren William
$0.99  
GIRL of the GOLDEN WEST 1962R HS .. Jeanette MacDonald, Nelson Eddy
$0.99  
GREAT WALTZ 1962R HS .. Luise Rainer, Fernand Gravet, Miliza Korjus
$0.99  
MIN and BILL 1962R HS .. Marie Dressler, Wallace Beery, Marjorie Rambeau
$0.99  
NAUGHTY MARIETTA 1962R HS .. Jeanette MacDonald, Nelson Eddy$0.99  
BOYFRIEND, the 1971 HS .. Twiggy, Christopher Gable dir. by Ken Russell
$0.99  
DARLING LILI 1970 HS .. Julie Andrews, Rock Hudson$0.99  
FOXES of HARROW 1947 HS .. Rex Harrison, Maureen O'Hara, Victor McLaglen
$0.99  
JOAN of PARIS 1942 HS .. Michèle Morgan, Paul Henreid, Laird Cregar
$0.99  
LET US LIVE 1947R HS .. Henry Fonda, Maureen O'Sullivan, Ralph Bellamy
$0.99  
MAN WITH TWO LIVES 1942 HS .. Edward Norris, Marlo Dwyer, Eleanor Lawson
$0.99  
NORTH STAR 1943 HS .. Anne Baxter, Dana Andrews, Erich von Stroheim
$0.99  
ROSEANNA McCOY 1949 HS ..Farley Granger, Richard Basehart, Raymond Massey   
 $0.99  
13 WEST STREET 1962 HS .. Alan Ladd, Rod Steiger, Dolores Dorn$0.99  
50 YEARS BEFORE YOUR EYES 1950 HS .. Arthur Godfrey$0.99  
A BULLET FOR the GENERAL 1968 HS .. Gian Maria Volante, Klaus Kinski
$0.99  
A BULLET IS WAITING 1954 HS .. Jean Simmons, Rory Calhoun, S. McNally
$0.99  
A REPORT ON the PARTY and the GUESTS 1966 HS .. Ivan Vyskocil, Jiri Nemec   
 $0.99  
A STRANGE ADVENTURE 1956 HS .. Joan Evans, Ben Cooper, Marla English
$0.99  
A TOWN CALLED HELL 1971 HS .. Robert Shaw, Martin Landau, Telly Savalas
$0.99  
ABSENCE OF MALICE 1981 HS .. Paul Newman, Sally Field$0.99  
ACROSS the BRIDGE 1958 HS .. Rod Steiger, Marla Landi$0.99  
ACTORS and SIN 1952 HS .. Edward G. Robinson, Eddie Albert, Marsha Hunt
$0.99  
ACTRESS, the 1953 Style B HS ..Spencer Tracy, Jean Simmons, Teresa Wright   
 $0.99  
ADVENTURES of TOM SAWYER 1958R HS .. Tommy Kelly, Jackie Moran$0.99  
ADVENTURES of TOM SAWYER 1966R HS .. Tommy Kelly, Jackie Moran$0.99  
AFFAIR in HAVANA 1957R HS .. John Cassavettes, Raymond Burr, Sara Shane
$0.99  
AFRICAN ELEPHANT 1971 HS .. Wildlife Documentary **COOL ARTWORK**$0.99  
ALL the YOUNG MEN 1962 HS .. Alan Ladd, Sidney Poitier, James Darren
$0.99  
AMERICAN GUERILLA in the PHILLIPINES 1950 HS .. Tyrone Power *FRITZ LANG*   
 $0.99  
AMERICANO 1958R HS .. Glenn Ford, Ursula Theiss, Cesar Romero$0.99  
ANONYMOUS VENETIAN 1971 HS .. Tony Musante, Florinda Bolkan$0.99  
ANTHONY ADVERSE 1956R HS .. Fredric March, Olivia De Havilland, C. Rains
$0.99  
ANY GUN CAN PLAY 1968 HS .. Ed Byrnes, Gilbert Roland, George Hilton
$0.99  
ARMORED ATTACK 1957 HS .. Anne Baxter, Dana Andrews, Dean Jagger$0.99  
ARSON FOR HIRE 1958 HS .. Steve Brody, Lyn Thomas *COOL ARSONIST ART*
$0.99  
AUTHOR, AUTHOR 1982 HS .. Al Pacino, Dyan Cannon, Yuesday Weld$0.99  
BABY BLUE MARINE 1976 HS .. Jan-Michael Vincent, Glynnis O'Connor$0.99  
BAND OF ANGELS 1957 HS .. Clark Gable, Yvonne DeCarlo, Sidney Poitier
$0.99  
BARABBAS 1962 HS .. Anthony Quinn, Sylvana Magnano, Arthur Kennedy$0.99 
 
BEAST of BUDAPEST 1958 HS .. John Hoyt, Gretta Thysen **COOL ART**$0.99 
 
BEAUTIFUL BUT DANGEROUS 1957 HS .. Gina Lollobrigida, Vittorio Gassman
$0.99  
BEGGAR'S OPERA 1953 HS .. Laurence Olivier, John Gay, Christopher Fry
$0.99  
BETRAYED 1954 HS .. Lana Turner, Clark Gable, Victor Mature$0.99  
BETWEEN HEAVEN and HELL 1956 HS .. Robert Wagner, Terry Moore$0.99  
BIG LAND 1957 HS .. Alan Ladd, Edmund O'Brien, Virginia Mayo$0.99  
BIG MONEY 1958 UK HS .. Ian Carmichael, Belinda Lee, Kathleen Harrison
$0.99  
BIG SHOW, the 1961 HS .. Esther Williams, Cliff Robertson, Robert Vaughn
$0.99  
BLACK FURY 1956R HS .. Paul Muni, William Gargan dir. 

Re: [MOPO] Best Picture Oscars and others

[Phil Edwards]

The English Patient is one of those movies that people either love or hate, not 
much in between.
I'm in the former category.
At the time, and over the years since, I've noticed that people who hate it 
also seem to be angry about it.
Very odd, really. It is only a movie after all, unless for some people at least 
it perhaps presses some buttons
they would rather not have pushed.
Phil 
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Waldman 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Best Picture Oscars and others


  My mother had me watch the English Patient with her.  I agree, one of the 
most boring movies ever made.
  John




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  From: Franc 
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  Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 10:09:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Best Picture Oscars and others


  I only saw about half of that film. The other half I slept through. FRANC
-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Doug 
Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:44 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Best Picture Oscars and others


Couldn’t agree more on English Patient.



Regards



DBT

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Richard
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:41 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Best Picture Oscars and others



Rich,

And let's not forget THE ENGLISH PATIENT winning best picture...

That's when I stopped paying much attention to the Oscars.

-- JR

Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: 



the answer is simple the awards are not entirely accomplishment based. 
They are frequently an emotional response by the members of the Academy who are 
unable to compartmentalize their emotions from their intellect, and so you get 
results that are not necessarily in line with truly award-caliber films. 

Rich

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Re: [MOPO] FA: Mother of mercy, are many fine lobby cards going to sell at under wholesale? They WILL, if in 13 hours they are where they are now!

[Phil Edwards]

There are so many variables in digital images, both taking the picture, editing 
the picture and viewing the picture (although the differences are not what 
differentiates Bruce's and Heritage's picture of the same card. While it's 
softer, I'd certainly vote Bruce's image the more accurate without even seeing 
the card in person.

Taking the picture: lighting conditions, camera settings.
Editing the picture: auto or manual correction, and/or deliberate 
colour/contrast manipulation, file size
Viewing the picture: type and age of monitor, monitor settings

Digital images of flat paper "lie", even without manipulation, and the smaller 
the file size, the less data to study.

Having a detailed written condition description even with a large image is 
definitely the way to go. As for the SCARFACE card, I really doubt that even 
when first printed, the white border was never that "white."

Phil


  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve E 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: Mother of mercy, are many fine lobby cards going to 
sell at under wholesale? They WILL, if in 13 hours they are where they are now!


You can get a sharp image AND also accurate color saturation... just 
increase the image color saturation level in Photoshop or any image editing 
program. Also, if too bright, with same software, darken to the point closest 
to actuality while leaving the tear still visible. It is all very easy and the 
technology has been around decades. There is no reason to blame a 
camera/scanner when common software is available to make an image look more 
realistic. Nothing wrong also for a second image to show closer up detail, I 
reckon anyway! That's where eBay has it up on emovieposter ;-)

Steve (50s)  

--- On Thu, 18/3/10, Bruce Hershenson  wrote:


  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: Mother of mercy, are many fine lobby cards 
going to sell at under wholesale? They WILL, if in 13 hours they are where they 
are now!
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Date: Thursday, 18 March, 2010, 22:04


  I put "two different cameras" because that is what Sean put 
(apparently incorrectly). I am looking at the actual card, and the image we 
have accurately depicts the coloring, while the other image completely distorts 
the coloring, making it appear somewhat white.

  Given the choice of my "lesser quality" camera which accurately 
depicts the coloring, and a scanner which gets better image detail quality but 
which greatly distorts the coloring, I know what I choose, but each seller has 
to go with what they prefer.

  I also wonder if it is the scanner which distorts the coloring, or if 
the image was brightened after the fact. One would have to see their original 
unrestored scan to know for certain, and I doubt I will ever see that.

  Another possibility is that the card WAS originally white a couple of 
years ago, but that it has undergone huge darkening in the intervening two 
years!

  Bruce


  On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Sean Linkenback 
 wrote:

There is a definitely a quality of detail in Heritage's image that 
is lacking in the Emovieposter image.  Just look at the detail in Muni's hair 
to see what I am talking about.

And while it isn't possible to do so over the internet, I prefer to 
use as bright a light as possible when inspecting cards for purchase.  I would 
much rather see the large tear in a card before I purchase it than be surprised 
when it arrives thinking "yeah, I guess that could have been a tear and not a 
crease, wish the photo had been clearer."

Full Disclosure - if the card remains at present bid levels, I will 
certainly be making a bid (and placing it knowing there is a large not 
noticeable tear in it).

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: Sean Linkenback 
  Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: Mother of mercy, are many fine lobby 
cards going to sell at under wholesale? They WILL, if in 13 hours they are 
where they are now!


  What you are seeing is that they "brightened" the image 
artificially, making the card look far more "white" than it actually is in 
"real life". That had the unintended side effect of also brightening the tear, 
making it far more noticeable than it is in "real life".

  Two different cameras actually view the same card the same way, 
but it takes a human being to manipulate the image so that it appears other 
than it actually is in "real life".

  Bruce



  On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Sean Linkenback 
 wrote:

As a lover of fine lobby cards and inspired by Bruce's sales 
pitch I decided to check out h

Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Metropolis Insert

[Phil Edwards]

Apart from it not having the robot, the insert is off the model generally - the 
design of the poster doesn't resemble the architecture of the city of the 
future at all. Interstingly, the insert is along the lines of the colour scheme 
of the art featured in the international Ufa product book for the film, art 
which I have seen nowhere else.

While the insert is an important American piece for the film's US release (in a 
greatly re-edited form from even the German general release version) and is as 
scarce as hen's teeth, I'm inclined to think the $40k might be about right. 
Personally, I would have been surprised if it had gone to $100k - it's a pretty 
poster, but sans robotrix and defining deco art that reflects the look or feel 
of the film, it's a disapointing design.

Phil

Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Potokar 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Metropolis Insert


  I'm sure the economy played a huge part in this selling for a lower than 
expected price. Of course, an image of the Robotrix would have garnered a much 
higher result, but the rarity of any material from this film's original 
release, in better times, would have maybe reached a result of $100K.








  On Mar 19, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Kirby McDaniel wrote:


Robots get the dough.
K.


On Mar 19, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Dave Rosen wrote:


  Yup, I like this poster but I have to say, when I first saw it, the first 
thing I said to myself too was "no robot." This is where that "iconic" thing 
kicks in. Despite the poster's rarity, the absence of the key image most 
associated with the film does hurt it.

  Dave
- Original Message -
From: Kirby McDaniel
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Metropolis Insert


Hey, Guys,
It's a poster of buildings, not a robot!
I always thought this poster overrated -- not the film, of course.
Kirby




On Mar 19, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Holiday Russell wrote:


  Wow.., tough economy


  Holiday


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From: Jeff Potokar 
Date: March 19, 2010 7:45:58 PM EDT
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Metropolis Insert
Reply-To: Jeff Potokar 


just sold on HA for only $40K

jeff

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Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Any bets on METROPOLIS?

[Phil Edwards]

I found just using the block sender function in OE was a good way of 
avoiding these bizarre broadsides from the UK that have nothing to do with 
MOPO. They just go straight to the trash folder, which is where they belong.


Life is considerably more tranquil thanks to this technological innovation.

Phil



--- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Halegua Comic Art" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Any bets on METROPOLIS?



At 02:31 PM 3/22/2010, Jeff Potokar wrote:

Touche' !

All correspondence in this matter should be dealt with one on one. We all 
dont need to be receiving these.


so says the low forehead who kept emailing me offlist & then posting my 
offlist replies to his asshole emails to MoPo


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Re: [MOPO] Problems Printing Postage Labels on Firefox

[Phil Edwards]

eBay and PP are in bed with MS in some areas.
I have always used IE for doing anything with either after FF seemed to have 
some problems with some aspects of

both EB and PP.

Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "Evan Zweifel" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Problems Printing Postage Labels on Firefox


Does it work in Safari?  If it doesn't, I would look to Paypal for the 
issue.  If it does, perhaps you can use it.


Evan

- Original Message -
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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 6:11:55 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Problems Printing Postage Labels on Firefox

blasphemer!

 If you can't figure it out, go to the Apple website and search
Paypal postage.  Something may come up.  If that doesn't work, go to
the Paypal website and search apple or mac.  Let us know.

Andrea


On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:


solution:

get a PC

; - )


At 02:47 PM 3/22/2010, channinglylethomson wrote:

I'm having a problem with Firefox on my Mac ever since I downloaded
the new version (3.6).  In the Paypal website, the first postage
label
I print works fine.  Every one after that crashes when I open the
print box and I have to do the report and re-download it.  Anyone
else
having this problem?  Any suggestions ould be appreciated.Thanks,
Channing

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Re: [MOPO] FA: NO CONTROVERSY HERE

[Phil Edwards]

Lumi,
Without doubt, one of the most controversial posts I ahve read on MOPO.
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! Just the Steve Reeves subtext was enough for me
to choke on my decaffinated coffee, never mind the "filthy daybills" coded 
message.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: luminita hascalovitz 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:49 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] FA: NO CONTROVERSY HERE


  Hi All,

  Nothing Off-Topic or controversial here, but I have close to 50 lots on eBay 
right now,

  representing a very unusual mix of material ranging from some absolutely 
filthy early 

  1930s daybills, some Steve Reeves standard-fare sword and sandal like 
Hercules and 

  Hercules Unchained, a few rarely-seen Star Wars alternates, James Bond, and 
more. 

  If interested, please click on the link below:

  http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=lobbies
   
  Or search by my eBay ID: lobbies
   
  Thanks so much,
   
  Lumi





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Re: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] Displaying posters without glass / Tony Nourmand Gallery

[Phil Edwards]

Re: [MOPO] Displaying posters without glass / Tony Nourmand GalleryNeon can be 
particularly destructive, I believe.
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wolfgang Jahn 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:00 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] Displaying posters without glass / Tony Nourmand 
Gallery


  Point 3) raises a question: Does indoor lighting have an effect on a poster / 
colors / over some amount of time, say a couple of years? I thought only 
sunlight (UV) can fade sth., but with a quick google search I got even more 
confused. This might be of interest to others also - if someone can chime in?

  Now obviously sunlight if it comes in through a window 'spreads' through a 
room but with much less impact than if sth. is directly exposed?

  Thanks,

  Wolfgang

  Kinoart.net

   

  Von: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] Im Auftrag von James 
Richard
  Gesendet: Freitag, 26. März 2010 20:26
  An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Betreff: Re: [MOPO] Displaying posters without glass / Tony Nourmand Gallery

   

  I thought Sue would respond to the idea using "glass" in a poster frame, but 
I guess she's busy so I'll chime in for her. I do hope when people are talking 
about "glass" in this discussion that they are talking about UV-blocking 
plexiglass and NOT regular glass, right?

  Regular glass should never be used in movie poster frames for several reasons:

  1) There is a possibility of the face of the poster "sticking" to the glass. 
Not a good thing.

  2) There is the possibility the frame will fall or the glass will be struck 
hard somehow -- causing the glass to break/shatter and cut/gouge/otherwise 
damage the face of the poster.

  3) Quality movie poster frames (like the "premium" frames Sue sells through 
www.Hollywoodposterframes.com) use 1/8" thick UV filtered plexiglass with 
additional filtering for indoor lighting, which mitigates the fading effects of 
light. Old movie posters are notoriously light-sensitive and posters will not 
stick to this type of plexiglass. Most frames with glass do not have 
UV-blocking glass.

  4) Glass adds a tremendous amount of weight to the frame, making it more 
likely to fall off the wall or simply be dropped when being handled.

  Generally speaking, the cost of UV-blocking plexiglass is comparable to glass 
and considering the disadvantages of glass, I can't see any reason for using 
glass in a movie poster display situation.

  Displaying *without* either plexiglass or glass may be OK for a very 
temporary situation, but you're still taking a chance on damage (it only takes 
a second). However, if we're talking about a poster worth some real money, it 
is never a good idea to leave the face of the poster exposed bare naked to the 
world. Way too much bad stuff can happen to it that way.

  Having said all this, I now have to go flog myself because I just remembered 
that I still have two pricey linen-backed posters hanging in the hall which I 
have not yet got under plexiglass. So, do as I say, not as I do :)

  -- JR

  Todd A. Spoor wrote: 

  All of the frames in my house have a removable back so that I can rotate 
posters in and out and I also store my posters this way. Each frame has 
anywhere from 8-10 posters in it depending if any of them are linen backed. I 
only will keep 2 linen backed posters in a frame with the other 8 otherwise it 
adds too much weight and the frame will start to bow. This works for my 1 
sheets, 30x40, 40x60 and 3 sheets. 

  Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


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  Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:39:03 +

  To: 

  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Displaying posters without glass / Tony Nourmand Gallery

   



  Like Tony, we used open frames with the posters pinned at our old gallery, to 
enable a temporary rotating display, with no problems I can remember. As long 
as it's not for too long in a domestic environment, it shouldn't be a problem. 
Even temperature & humidity levels help.

  This is quite timely, as we're currently working on a really beautiful, 
vintage-style temporary/rotating display frame for quads and 1-sheets, backed 
and unbacked. Ideal for a home cinema. Will be mailing out about this in due 
course.

  Tim
  Movie Poster Art Gallery
  London


  On 26/03/2010 14:47, "Walton, Jeffrey"  wrote:

  I can think of a few more reason not displaying without glass
   
  Kids, or kids and crayons to be exact
  A shaken (unknown to you) can of soda
  Friends plus beer plus darts
   
   


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Gerrard
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:41 AM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Displaying posters without glass / Tony Nourmand Gallery


  Hi Neil,
   
  Interesti

Re: [MOPO] help identifying autograph on Queen from Outer Space 1sh

[Phil Edwards]

Great Scott!
  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] help identifying autograph on Queen from Outer Space 1sh


  Thats the problem with identifying autographs. I have seen some Zsa Zsa Gabor 
autographs that apper to be quite different to the one on the poster but it is 
quite possible that this is her signature in a different form to those that I 
have seen. Provenance is very important when identifing autographs ie when and 
where was the signiture obtained. There are plenty of examples where signatures 
change dramatically according to the time and place or the whim of the person 
signing.

  Regards
  John


  Website: www.moviemem.com
   
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  PO Box 92
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- Original Message - 
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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] help identifying autograph on Queen from Outer Space 1sh


Dave:

It look's like Zsa Gabor signed it.

Best, Tom Pennock 

In a message dated 3/26/2010 8:47:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
dli...@aol.com writes:

  can anyone tell me who signed this?

  http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/92010/queapr10.jpg

  the director on the bottom is obvious, but what about the other one above 
it?

  any help greatly appreciated!

  thanks,


  David Lieberman

  CineMasterpieces.com | 15721 N. Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- 
Scottsdale, Az 85260
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Re: [MOPO] wanted: STAR WARS HAPPY BDAY CAKE 1yr anniv 1SH ROLLED NM

[Phil Edwards]

There used to be one in the cake speciality shop in Oxford Street, Paddington, 
Sydney, NSW, Australia. Lovely. In a frame.
Did they want to sell it? No.
Why?
Because the person who owned the cake shop made the cake and LFL gave them a 
couple of the posters.
And yes, they knew how valuable they were.

Phil


  - Original Message - 
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] wanted: STAR WARS HAPPY BDAY CAKE 1yr anniv 1SH ROLLED NM


  How much will you pay for one?

  Craig.


  At 05:17 PM 3/29/2010, David Lieberman wrote:

Please let me know.
 
thanks,
 


David Lieberman

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Re: [MOPO] OT Check Out These 75Th Anniv. 1 Shts From FOX

[Phil Edwards]

ICE AGE made a shitload of money... that's what they care about and 
besides, what 18 year old wants a Shirley Temple in their bedroom... oh, 
wait.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Glenn Taranto 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT Check Out These 75Th Anniv. 1 Shts From FOX


  I saw this earlier this morning and wondered... Nothing from the 40's? 30's?  
Grapes of Wrath?  Shirley Temple?  Will Rogers?  Henry Fonda? Betty Grable? 
John Ford?  The Great Noirs?

  It's another bullshit promotion based on nothing.  The only good one in the 
bunch is the DTESS.

  And as far as ICE AGE is concerned... The same exact thought hit me but with 
caps. WTF

  Glenn T.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: [MOPO] OT Check Out These 75Th Anniv. 1 Shts From FOX



ALIEN  
DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL
GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDS
PATTON
INDEPENDENCE DAY
BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID
WALK THE LINE 
ICE AGE   (wtf?)


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Re: [MOPO] FS: CONGORILLA (1932) one sheet

[Phil Edwards]

Gorilla my dreams!


- Original Message - 
From: "Kirby McDaniel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:51 AM
Subject: [MOPO] FS: CONGORILLA (1932) one sheet



http://movieart.net/products-page/?category=5&product_id=750




Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt Original Film Posters
P.O. Box 4419
Austin TX 78765-4419
512 479 6680  www.movieart.net
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Re: [MOPO] WTB: Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan with Bob Peak art?

[Phil Edwards]

It is. The most common version (in English) was a UK one sheet.
The best poster on one of the best (if not the best) of the Shatner/Nimoy TREK 
films.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Waldman 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB: Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan with Bob Peak art?


  I believe that is the international style.
  John W




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  Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 3:32:20 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] WTB: Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan with Bob Peak art?

  MOPO, 


  Is anyone aware of a one sheet that use this artwork by Bob Peak?  Thanks.


  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:002-the_wrath_of_khan_poster_art.png


  Best,
  Stan


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[MOPO] FS: FORBIDDEN PLANET US one sheet and UK quad

[Phil Edwards]

Hi,
We currently have a very good example of an original, unrestored US one sheet 
for FORBIDDEN PLANET for sale. Detailed condition report and pic here:

http://www.cinemarts.com/viewitem.aspx?id=2146

and a considerably more scarce British quad for the film, which is linen-backed 
with very minor white border resto.

Price and pics on request for the quad.

Phil E.

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Re: [MOPO] Question from Rudy Franchi re: Standees

[Phil Edwards]

I have a few standees, but all boxed except one.
That's a video standee for THE MATRIX. It's an 8 feet tall Neo, the same image 
as on the one sheet, but a big cut out version of him.
He spends most of the time folded in half in the hall.
He comes out when Mila goes to visit the grandkids so I have someone to talk to.
He's great company, even if he doesn't say a whole lot.
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Toochis Morin 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Question from Rudy Franchi re: Standees


  Great subject!  Does anyone know where I can locate the large IRON GIANT one 
with the illuminated red eyes.

  Cheers,

  Toochis




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  Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 2:42:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Question from Rudy Franchi re: Standees

  Rudy,

  Wow... someone is suing someone over the value of lobby standees? What a 
strange world... Anyway, while I love seeing standees in lobbies, every time 
I've been offered one I decided to take a pass simply because they take up so 
much floor space -- you have to have a pretty large house to have even one 
standee in place and not have it completely take over the room. Most people 
I've talked to about them have similar reservations. I think this has served to 
keep prices comparatively low over the decades (except for the "spectacular 
examples for high-powered titles" you mention).

  The other caveat, if one is not purchasing the standee locally is the hassle 
and cost of shipping the things. That has to be figured into the final price 
and so cuts down the "retail value".

  The basic awkwardness and size of most standees has probably also contributed 
to them having a higher throw-away ratio than movie posters which can be stored 
in a small space. Traditionally the high throw-away factor would make them 
valuable, but because of their other aspects it hasn't worked out that way.

  Recently there was a standee of R2D2 from STAR WARS offered on Ebay. I no 
longer have the link to the closed auction, and while it wasn't in mint shape, 
it was still nice and given the collectible status of the film I thought it 
would go for quite a lot, but there didn't seem to be all that much interest in 
it.

  -- JR

  channinglylethomson wrote:
  > Hello Mopo Members -- Rudy Franchi has asked me to post the following 
question to members of MOPO:
  > 
  > I'm doing some research as an expert witness in a law suit involving
  > the value of recent ( last 10 years )  movie theater lobby standees.
  > Over the years I've never had much success in selling these - with the
  > exception of a handful  of spectacular examples for high powered
  > titles. Anyone in the group have positive/negative experiences with
  > these boxed monsters?  Thanks, rudy franchi
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Re: [MOPO] FA: GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY! Prices so low you won't believe your ly...

[Phil Edwards]

Down here, we have Holy Moley!
  - Original Message - 
  From: allen day 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY! Prices so low you won't 
believe your ly...


I've always had a soft spot for ...


Jumpin' Je-hoss-a-phat


ad

--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Michael B  wrote:


  From: Michael B 
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY! Prices so low you 
won't believe your ly...
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 9:35 AM


  GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY!

  bruce must sit up all night thinking of these headlines 

  let's help bruce...

 how from the Superman TV series, GREAT CAESAR'S GHOST 

   (GREAT CAESAR'S GHOST, you can't believe the low prices!!!)

 or from the BATMAN'S tv series...



  michael
 
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Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight

[Phil Edwards]

Doug - Just so I understand this you were high bidder and this guy came in 
near the end and bid multiple times in $2 increments until he bested your top 
bid and won the item or, as an extended auction format, you kept bidding 
against him raising his ante and he just kept upping you by $2 increments, and 
won the item?

I'm hard-pressed to see how it can be interpreted as shilling (as others have 
noted, he won the item, defeating the usual object of the shill bidder) or even 
assumed as such.

I think all of us who have sold on eBay and other auctions over several years 
can recount stories of nutty bid histories that as the seller we know aren't 
shilled but just don't make any sense... or seem to, except that two or more 
people really wanted that thing. I had two bidders slug it out over a 
CALIFORNIA DOLLS lobby set on eBay a few years ago and it ended up at $500. 
Utterly bizarre.

ROBINSON CRUSOE ON MARS is a title that's picked up a little speed in the last 
couple of years.

If one can't snipe on MPB (can one?) and they have extended format auctions (do 
they?) then one has to resort to the hammer blow high bid right at the end that 
the guy who's diddling away at $2 increments simply can't beat.

I just don't get the logic , Doug, that makes you immediately think that $2 
incremental bids in the last few minutes of an auction means a shill.

Regards,
Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Waldman 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight


  It's one thing to think an auction has a shill bidder, it's another thing to 
post your thoughts on MOPO.  You are after all only guessing that this auction 
had a shill bidder.  Which I doubt by the way.

  If this auction had a shill bidder, he was a crappy at it because he won.

  John W
   






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  From: Douglas Ball 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 6:35:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight


  I've bid on email auctions now for the last 11 years almost daily. Also every 
time a new bidder to the system may bid this way until they get the hang of 
things, but one thing they almost never do is drive an item up that high, one 
small amount at a time... a lack of trust. Once they are relaxed with the 
auctions and the sellers they will then start to set reserves for themselves.
  This bidder (if a true bidder), only objective was to drive the price of this 
poster up hoping that I would go even higher. I would be very surprised if they 
make a payment for that poster. I doubt that anyone will ever know...

  Doug
- Original Message - 
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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight


I don’t think a shill bidder would be so obvious as to bid 27 times at $2 
increments.



Zeev







From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas 
Ball
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:24 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight



I just got done with and auction on Mopobid tonight that is and will leave 
a sour taste and just might make me think twice in bidding on another auction 
in the near future on Rich's auctions.

Tonight I bid on "Robinson Crusoe on Mars" 40x60. At 8:18 tonight a buyer 
with the ID of samiam101 (0) feedback with approx. 2mins left in the auction. I 
came in again at 8:27 almost missing the auction. I was high at 105.01. From 
that bid until 9:05, that bidder bid 27 bids @ $2.00 per bid w/ 3 or 2m left in 
the extended auction until the bidder finally won it for $161.10.

Now I'M like just about anyone else who takes loosing with winning, but in 
this case I believe it was not a bidder who never bid on any auctions in the 
past, but a shill bidder.

Since you can not view auctions that have ended on Rich's site unless you 
bid or follow, I'm just curious how many others had an experience tonight with 
samiam 101 with (0) feedback!



Doug

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Re: [MOPO] Posting Etiquette

[Phil Edwards]

Welcome, Neil. Enjoy the show.
Phil
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  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:10 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Posting Etiquette


Hello --

Ia m new to this group and I wanted to find out what the posting 
etiquette is before I post something in here?

Is it acceptable to post a "wanted to buy" post or is there a certain 
place on the website to do that?

Thanks
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Re: [MOPO] FA: One of the oddest ad campaigns ever from a major studio!

[Phil Edwards]

Utterly bizarre, really. Looks more like a a film about a bloke with a foot 
fetish, or perhaps a shoesalesman... or both.


What the heck is a "homely man" by today's standards.

Is it really the Man Who Laughs?

Sent via oBtusePhone from Oz.


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  Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: One of the oddest ad campaigns ever from a major 
studio!


  It would have been fascinating, too,  to see what Lon Chaney would have done 
with this role, as well. 


  Carl Laemmle wanted Chaney for the role but Chaney was under a long term 
contract with MGM at the time.




  Jeff








  On Apr 18, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:


Carl Laemmle, the head of Universal saw the great German impressionist 
movies of the 1910s and 1920s and decided Universal needed to have one of its 
own, and he hired director Paul Leni to adapt Victor Hugo's The Man Who Laughs, 
starring the magnificent German actor, Conrad Veidt, who had of course starred 
in the first of these, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.

Apparently Laemmle panicked when he saw the advances, because Universal 
devised one of  the oddest ad campaigns from a major studio (maybe only equaled 
by MGM's Freaks campaign a few years later).

The ad showed a sexy image of Olga Baclanova, with an unrecognizable back 
shot of a man crouching before her, and the immortal tagline, "Why do alluring 
women love homely men?"!

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] FA: The ultimate "fixer-upper"!

[Phil Edwards]

One of my personal favourite posters came from the fabulous Susan Olson as 
a gift. And she did the resto job on it, too, and a damn fine one it was.

She ought to be back in at least as near full time biz as she can.

Phil Edwards


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  Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: The ultimate "fixer-upper"!


  Susan has restored some of the best posters in my collection.  She's a 
talented lady.
  John W




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  Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 11:19:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: The ultimate "fixer-upper"!

Absolutely!!  Toochis beat me to the punch.  Susan Olson's work is 
nothing short of brilliant!!Joe B in NOLA

--- On Sun, 4/18/10, Toochis Morin  wrote:


  From: Toochis Morin 
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] FA: The ultimate "fixer-upper"!
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 12:05 AM


  I like to add Susan Olson. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Jeff Potokar  
wrote:


John Davis at Poster Mountain, Diane Jeffrey @ Studio C or Sylvia 
Locken would all do a GREAT job restoring this beauty! 


Jeff
















On Apr 17, 2010, at 5:32 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:


  
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1766580

  What a great poster! I wish Igor Edelman was still alive, because 
he surely could have recreated the missing area as good as anyone.

  I hope the buyer finds someone with similar talents.

  Bruce

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[MOPO] eBay shill bidder gets done by the bill

[Phil Edwards]

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/ebay-seller-faces-fines-after-bidding-on-own-items-to-raise-prices-20100421-szqp.html

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Re: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past

[Phil Edwards]

This reminds me of one of those family gatherings where someone, in this case 
Bruce, says GEE, REMEMBER WHEN thinking that it might spur some lovely 
family reminiscences about good times shared and precisely the opposite 
happens.

Phil
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  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past





AH, SUCH A WONDERFUL TRIP DOWN MOPO MEMORY LANE.
   Rick
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Re: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past

[Phil Edwards]

Yes, it's one of the most entertaining days on MOPO for some time!

And breaks up the monotony of all that spam I'm getting about Viagra today... I 
mean... HOW do they KNOW?

Phil
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  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past


  WOW!!!  Some of these posts are almost works of poetry!  I feel the ghost 
John Keats is engaging in foreplay with the ghost of Emily Dickinson as we 
speak!!!   Ode On A Grecian Turd...or was that written by Al?

  In a message dated 4/21/2010 6:13:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
aday_5...@yahoo.com writes:
  I can shed a little bit of light ... 


  Al Shevy is a guy who sold posters on eeebay several years ago, I was 
the winning bidder on a particular auction and paid promptly via Paypal. Poster 
never posted despite several messages back and forth, several deadlines ignored 
/ missed, Paypal refunded most of the $$$.


  Al Shevy provided a valuable lesson ... and it only cost me less than 
$40


  I'm sure he must be a nice guy to some people, probably a great 
family man as well, but with online business dealings ... he is just a 
low-rent, mouth breathing, jack leg, butthead, suck-egg country mule geechie, 
bless his evil 'lil heart. I was once consumed that this cretin thought he was 
going to get away without paying up, then I realised it was small poop from 
smaller poop. Now ... I wouldn't spend the time or money to buy salt ... to 
pour on the slug. I feel somewhat used by wasting this time to type out this 
message, but hey, what's done ... is done.


  BTW ... smoochies, Al ... miss you ... 


  ad 

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From: rixpost...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:39 PM




  I've been in this hobby for almost 30 years. Will someone please 
tell me

 Who the hell is Al Shevy?

 I can't believe for almost 30 years I've never had the please 
of meeting or hearing of such a warm and wonderful man!

  
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Re: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past

[Phil Edwards]

His middle name is Solomon.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ari Richards 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past


  Strangely,
  and Al I did email you again, and have always stuck up for you, for some 
reason, please reply. I also bought the Henry poster, and DID recieve it, just 
didnt get the BAD TASTE, GOTHIC and something else, think it was THE HUNGER, 
sheesh. been a year or 2. or 3.
  Anyways, I have the Henry, which I paid for, but if others did also, shall I 
cut it into 3?

  Ari




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  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Fri, 23 April, 2010 4:43:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] AW: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past

  Richard
  I can quantify it even better than Bruce's "very slim"

  during the last 3 years, we have shipped about 4000 packages
  about 20% of them went overseas

  during those 3 years, we did lost one (1) package going to Europe
  it was rather inexpensive, and of course - we just refunded or credited the 
buyer - as we always do

  so either the odds of a package getting lost (when well packaged as both 
Bruce and myself package) are 3999-1 as measured by the total number of shipped 
packages or approximately 799-1 as measured by the approximately 800 packages 
we shipped overseas.

  I'd say that the odds of 2 packages getting lost to overseas buyers from a 
seller who shipped what I believe has to have been considerably fewer packages 
than myself is incredibly long. 

  If the accused Al shipped 800 packages overseas as I have, the math would 
look something like 800/1 x 799/1 or approximately 639,000 to 1.

  I find it more likely that any seller claiming such a high loss rate didn't 
ship the packages at all and just kept the money with the nefarious intention 
of keeping the money AND the posters

  Rich


  At 04:20 AM 4/22/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

50/50?

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Richard Evans  
wrote:

  What's the odds of that?





  On 22 Apr 2010, at 10:25, Wolfgang Jahn wrote:


Now that name Al Shevy rang a bell to me, and I checked in my older 
email folder:



In September 2005 in bought posters from him on ebay (his ID back then: 
coolstuff159 ) for

$292,74

And never received anything! Unfortunately it was too late to file a 
paypal claim, or even leave neg. feedback I think.

He first told me can’t take paypal (wonder why) and 3 weeks later he 
said I could pay with paypal now, which I did then (I think he only had 1-2 
negative feedbacks) I never received anything then, and only got one reply from 
him about when and how they were sent, saying sth like: ‘I took them to the 
post office’



Included was a Henry artwork style, Pulp Fiction Quad, Lost highway 1sh.



So Al, you still owe me $292,74 or these or other posters. How’s that?



Wolfgang Jahn

Kinoart.net





Von: MoPo List [ mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] Im Auftrag von 
allen day

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. April 2010 03:14

An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Betreff: Re: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past



I can shed a little bit of light ...



Al Shevy is a guy who sold posters on eeebay several years ago, I was 
the winning bidder on a particular auction and paid promptly via Paypal. Poster 
never posted despite several messages back and forth, several deadlines ignored 
/ missed, Paypal refunded most of the $$$.



Al Shevy provided a valuable lesson ... and it only cost me less than 
$40



I'm sure he must be a nice guy to some people, probably a great family 
man as well, but with online business dealings ... he is just a low-rent, mouth 
breathing, jack leg, butthead, suck-egg country mule geechie, bless his evil 
'lil heart. I was once consumed that this cretin thought he was going to get 
away without paying up, then I realised it was small poop from smaller poop. 
Now ... I wouldn't spend the time or money to buy salt ... to pour on the slug. 
I feel somewhat used by wasting this time to type out this message, but hey, 
what's done ... is done.



BTW ... smoochies, Al ... miss you ... 



ad 


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From: rixpost...@aol.com 

Subject: Re: [MOPO] Memories of MoPo Past

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:39 PM





  I've been in this hobby for almost 30 years. Will someone please tell 
me



 Who the hell is Al Shevy?



 I can't believe for almost 30 years I've never had the please of 
meeting or hearing of such a warm and wonderful man!



 

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[MOPO] Does anyone know this seller from France?

[Phil Edwards]

Hi all,
On behalf of a colleague in US, I'm asking if anyone knows the eBay seller, 
catbare.

Item has been paid for 2 weeks ago, but no response from catbare despite 
several emails.

Seller's track record seems fine by the feedback.

You can email me at p...@cinemarts offlist if you like to save clogging up 
inboxes
for those not interested.

Thanks,
Phil E.

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Re: [MOPO] Topaz Transparencies

[Phil Edwards]

10x8 color trannies for use in higher end colour magazines were not uncommon 
form this period and earlier. Ditto 5x4 trannies.
In some instances, the 10x8s were used to created blow-up pictures mfor  for 
exhibitor FoH display use.

Their value rests with the subject matter.
In this case - with TOPAZ being considerably down the Hitchcock canon, shots 
featuring Hitchcock, solo or with the main actors are going to have 
considerably more value than lesser stars.
The tag you illustrate was what was sent along to be used as the caption 
info for the shots publication in the magazine.


As time went on even 5x4s were replaced by 35mm colour trannies for colour 
press use, and today it is pretty much all now digital imagery used for 
publication.


I have 6 x 4 drawer file cabinets full of 35mm/5x4 and 10x8 colour trannies 
accumulated over 35 years. There are some great shots that have never seen 
the light of publication, and many poster key art trannies, and key art 
element trannies.


They have a value... but like all such things, only to the people who are 
interested in them. They can be utilised, of course, but as time goes by 
they become much more interesting as artifacts of film publicity.


I'd love to see the rest of the TOPAZ shots.

Phil
- Original Message - 
From: "bqjansen" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:45 AM
Subject: [MOPO] Topaz Transparencies


Hi, I've found a collection of Hitchcock stills. Among the stills  there's 
this set of 16 colour transparencies/slides from Topaz. They  measure 8x10 
inches and all have an accompanying text. I've seen one  of these things 
before, but have no idea what they are for. Anyone any  idea? Where they 
used for magazines maybe or something? Also  interesting ofcourse is 
whether they are rare or have any value.



Here's an example with a text.


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/Topazdia.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/Topazdiatekst.jpg

Wim

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Re: [MOPO] Movie Posters Re-Imagined With the Stars Originally Cast

[Phil Edwards]

It's kind of fascinating and in at least a few instances, it indicates the 
right casting decisions were made.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Potokar 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Movie Posters Re-Imagined With the Stars Originally Cast


  Why is this disturbing? The article simply ponders the idea about how these 
films would have appeared (and fared), had the actors who were originally 
considered for the roles, been cast in the part.


  This happens all the time.


  It makes for an interesting set of "alt versions" for some of the one sheets, 
that's for sure.


  Jeff














  On Apr 25, 2010, at 6:38 PM, David Lieberman wrote:



disturbing


http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/04/20/movie-posters-with-stars-originally-cast/?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl2|link3|http%3A%2F%2Finsidemovies.moviefone.com%2F2010%2F04%2F20%2Fmovie-posters-with-stars-originally-cast%2F


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Re: [MOPO] Thank you - Glenn, Bruce and Franc (re: nasty seller)

[Phil Edwards]

Makes you wonder why they offer what is basically a customer loyalty programme 
of sorts, and then try and renege on it and take an unctuous attitude... that, 
as in this case, has lost them a customer.

And all over a couple of bucks.

Crikey.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steven Yafet 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:49 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Thank you - Glenn, Bruce and Franc (re: nasty seller)


  I appreciate the feedback.  It was just a bit shocking when I saw the emails, 
especially the second one.  Franc, eventually the seller gave the discount (a 
whopping $2 and small change) but I was sorry I ever asked for it.  They send 
these so-called discount letters with every order and I never bothered before.

  Can't bring myself to give the seller a negative because the packages are 
always shipped promptly and well packed.  But - after reading all your emails - 
I am going to tell them that I will no longer be buying anything from them 
because of their horrible attitude.

  Nathalie

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Re: [MOPO] New York Times Article on Haggard

[Phil Edwards]

I wonder how many people from the forums who were so vocal about Haggard and 
his activities will post on this somewhat more high profile NYT blog.

As it reads, are the only charges mail fraud?


Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Todd Feiertag 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:00 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] New York Times Article on Haggard


  
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/man-accused-of-selling-fake-vintage-horror-movie-posters/
 

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Re: [MOPO] Ben-Hur Claude Heater as Christ return to main website 

[Phil Edwards]

No, wasn't Willy's line to Bette, "Oh God, Oh God, Mein Got, Mein Got, ya 
Bette, da feathers, pleae, da deathers!"


  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:57 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Ben-Hur Claude Heater as Christ return to main website 


  Well, I did google this --- but I actually remembered his name from when I 
was a kid.  I had the program
  for BEN-HUR, and I believe it was in there.  


  You will get a kick out of Wyler "talking to God" --- although I thought that 
Wyler thought Bette Davis was
  God!  Ha ha


  K.




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Re: [MOPO] LAMP Censors Kerry Haggard Deposition?

[Phil Edwards]

What was edited out?
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Todd Feiertag 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:13 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] LAMP Censors Kerry Haggard Deposition?


  Just curious, since ALL of this info is on the Public Record, obtainable by 
anyone via the Freedom of Information Act, why would LAMP edit out a bunch of 
Kerry Haggard's deposition???
   
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Re: [MOPO] RIP Joe Sarno + 2001 release date info

[Phil Edwards]

Is this where the 1970 Star Child poster comes from, I wonder, the ones that 
are confusingly stamped with 74/*  number one the back?)
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] RIP Joe Sarno + 2001 release date info


  "return engagement" sounds suspiciously like a re-release. I wonder if they 
had new posters?


  On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Matthew McCarthy  
wrote:

On obit for the exploitation king Joseph Sarno:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/arts/03sarno.html?ref=obituaries

And for those who are still interested in the 2001 release dates saga, I 
happened to come across an article in one of the New York Time's film reference 
books over the weekend. It may or may not be available online, but it does 
touch on the history of the film up to that point (the article, by Vincent 
Canby, is dated May 3 1970):

"..these thoughts are prompted by a return visit, 10 days ago, to see 
"2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY"... the movie, which was playing a return engagement at 
the Ziegfeld Theater when I saw it, can be seen in 70mm, with stereo sound, at 
the Paramus 4 (and other theaters)...

(the book) 'The Making of Kubrick's 2001' follows the curious commercial 
course of the film that opened in New York on April 3rd 1968 to almost 
unanimous pans from the daily press and then went on to become a cult film, a 
head film, a film to recant by, and a smashing commercial success (earnings to 
date in the United States: $15,985.000)."


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Re: [MOPO] Quick! Look at it before Mara Corday strikes again.

[Phil Edwards]

Which one is Mara?

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:40 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] Quick! Look at it before Mara Corday strikes again.


  Finnish poster for the Black Scorpion.
  Who knows if it will survive all the way until Sunday with the rest of my NO 
RESERVE .99¢ auctions...
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320526357675


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Re: [MOPO] lindsay lohan / linda lovelace

[Phil Edwards]

I was thinking Paris Hilton. She has more onscreen experience for what would be 
key scenes in the film

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kenwick Cook 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] lindsay lohan / linda lovelace




  oh, my... I'm getting excited just thinking about it...

  I do, however, have an autographed copy of Deep Throat, not for sale.





  -Original Message-
  From: David Lieberman 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 8:31 pm
  Subject: [MOPO] lindsay lohan / linda lovelace


  
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/05/lindsay.lohan.as.linda.lovelace.ppl/index.html?hpt=T3



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Re: [MOPO] MOPO is useless (for me)

[Phil Edwards]

Well, Mike, as I'm in Australia, I'm not going to be much help with framers who 
ship to Canada.

If you listed a WTB for something I had, I'd send you a link to it on our 
website or let you know we had it, or perhaps
the same title in another format or country of origin. I wouldn't clog up 
soemone's mail box with a "sorry, don't have that one."

On the other hand, there are plenty of people who list a WTB that one can 
respond to in the affirmative, and while one doesn't expect necessarily a sale 
from it, the courtesy of a reply is appreciated.

As this is a forum/list of sorts, and you only use it when it's for something 
you want to buy or for information you want and don't take part in any of the 
other general poster issues that discussed daily, then perhaps that's why 
people are slow to respond, or don't respond.

Lists/forums like this and NSF, APF and MPF etc are only as lively and 
interesting as their memberships choose to make them.

MOPO may be useless for you, but it's useful for a lot of other people. As for 
the collectors who used to buy and sell on the list, lots went to ebay, or 
started theior own auction sites or have their own websites... or are no longer 
interested... or perhaps are dead.

Regards,
Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Davis 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:59 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] MOPO is useless (for me)


  Sorry to be dramatic, but I have to vent. 
   
  To give some context, I have been collecting movie posters for almost 20 
years and have been a member of MOPO at least 5+ years. To be frank, I am 
mostly a lurker but post on the list every couple of months depending on my 
collecting needs.
   
  The bottom line, in my opinion, things have obviously changed around here.
   
  When I first joined MOPO, I had great success in using the list to prospect 
for posters on my want list. I would post a WTB and then would have multiple 
dealers AND collectors that would respond. Or, I would post a question or a 
comment and then have at least a few helpful responses.
   
  Nowadays, my WTB posts are either totally ignored or I get maybe one response 
(thank you Kirby!) from a dealer. While I appreciate the one response, where is 
everyone else??? The biggest question is where are the collectors that used to 
freely buy and sell on this list??? Are the posters I'm looking for become too 
rare??? Have all of the posters I am looking for been hoarded into 
collections??? Are the collectors not selling anymore??? 
   
  And my posts with questions are largely ignored as well.I asked on the 
weekend if anyone knew of poster frame providers that ship to Canada and of 
course no one answered.
   
  Anyways, just frustrated.
   
  Thanks.
   
   


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Re: [MOPO] Bad news ebay buyer alert

[Phil Edwards]

The way it works now. YOU were supposed to wrap the parcel and get it into 
the mail within 5 seconds of his money hitting your PP account.


I guess the safer way is to acknowledge the payment and tell the buyer when 
you are going to ship.


Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Wong" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:43 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Bad news ebay buyer alert



Hi MOPO,
After 10 years of selling I finally got my first negative feedback!

If I were you I would avoid ebay id colonel_john_sheppard of Larry Casey
who may also go by Bob Morane, Clausse Laurent or wraiths.  He collects on
Logan's Run.

This buyer paid on 4/25.  I transferred the money to my account on 4/26,
wrapped the  package on 5/3 and was planning to mail it on 5/4.  I logged 
onto

my Paypal account that morning to find that the buyer had filed a buyer
dispute which caused the money to be taken from my account and placed in 
"held"

status.  I emailed the buyer and told him that if he removed the hold, the
package would go out that afternoon.  He insisted that I should mail the
package first.  Within 24 hours, he had escalated to a buyer claim and 
left me
negative feedback.  I "resolved" the case by refunding his money.  This on 
a

$17 photo  that would have taken almost a week to arrive in France by
Global Priority in any case.

I have learned my lesson.  In any case where a spurious complaint has been
made, I will instantly refund the money and hopefully cause the ebay sale 
to

be voided and avoid getting bad feedback.

Thanks, Michael, Cinecityposters

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Re: [MOPO] Bad news ebay buyer alert

[Phil Edwards]

This is a joke post, surely?

Phil

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael B 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bad news ebay buyer alert


  i ended an auction early 2 weeks ago because the bidder was from europe with 
small feedback.  i forget to set the item as NO OUTSIDE USA delivery.  the item 
was a 9.99 auction bookvery, very, very thick/heavy.  bidder was likely to 
be the only bid.  so why risk spending 25/30 postage in a no-win situation.  
there is no delivery confirm at that rate., so if the buyer is not honorable, i 
lose the book, plus the postage.  the upside would have been a net on 8.00.  
hencestupid on my part. 

  i have never been burnt with buyers outside the USA, but the potential is 
there.  

  mbb






  In a message dated 5/6/2010 9:59:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
p...@cinemarts.com writes:
The way it works now. YOU were supposed to wrap the parcel and get it into 
the mail within 5 seconds of his money hitting your PP account.

I guess the safer way is to acknowledge the payment and tell the buyer when 
you are going to ship.

Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Wong" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 5:43 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Bad news ebay buyer alert


> Hi MOPO,
> After 10 years of selling I finally got my first negative feedback!
>
> If I were you I would avoid ebay id colonel_john_sheppard of Larry Casey
> who may also go by Bob Morane, Clausse Laurent or wraiths.  He collects on
> Logan's Run.
>
> This buyer paid on 4/25.  I transferred the money to my account on 4/26,
> wrapped the  package on 5/3 and was planning to mail it on 5/4.  I logged 
> onto
> my Paypal account that morning to find that the buyer had filed a buyer
> dispute which caused the money to be taken from my account and placed in 
> "held"
> status.  I emailed the buyer and told him that if he removed the hold, the
> package would go out that afternoon.  He insisted that I should mail the
> package first.  Within 24 hours, he had escalated to a buyer claim and 
> left me
> negative feedback.  I "resolved" the case by refunding his money.  This 
on 
> a
> $17 photo  that would have taken almost a week to arrive in France by
> Global Priority in any case.
>
> I have learned my lesson.  In any case where a spurious complaint has been
> made, I will instantly refund the money and hopefully cause the ebay sale 
> to
> be voided and avoid getting bad feedback.
>
> Thanks, Michael, Cinecityposters
>
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Re: [MOPO] Frank Frazetta gone

[Phil Edwards]

Anybody recall where the interview with Frazetta appeared where he named Norman 
Lindsay as one of his major early influences?

Frazetta did some great work. On the movie poster front, how many recall THE 
GAUNTLET one sheet that Warners issued that had no credits or title? I seem to 
recall there was a story about that poster and its completion, and where the 
original ended up.

The French one panel for CONAN THE BARBARIAN re-used one of his paperback 
covers - I'm sure Rich will be able to name which one.

This also reminds me that it's Clint Eastwood's 80th birthday this month.

Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Zeev Drach 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Frank Frazetta gone


  "and one was as large as 20x30 inches"

   

  That big eh?  Wow, I can hardly believe that.

   

  Sorry Rich, I couldn't help it ;-)

   

  Zeev

   

   

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  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:46 PM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Frank Frazetta gone

   

  John

  his art varied in size tremendously. some paintings were done very small 
11x14 or so, but I have sold several Frazetta paintings in my time and one was 
as large as 20x30 inches. It was always more about how much time before 
deadline did he have left (Frank was notorious for screwing off until the 
weekend before he was due) and what materials he had available to paint on.

  In one famous case, he had to get 4 paintings in to Ace books on Monday after 
screwing off for 3 months and being at his cabin, had no canvasses. So he 
peeled linoleum from the kitchen floor and used that for canvas. 

  I know for a fact that some of the Scientoligist paintings he did were quite 
large (probably 24x48 inches, maybe larger)

  in any case.. it was all great stuff..

  Rich


  At 12:40 PM 5/10/2010, John Waldman wrote:



  Frazetta has always been one of my favorite artists, along with James Bama.
  It amazed me how small those Frazetta cover paintings really were.  
  Frazetta was the best at what he did and will be missed.
  It's no wonder he wasn't know more for his movie poster work, there's some 
real lousy movies in there.
  John W


  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 2:10:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Frank Frazetta gone

  it's sad that his family has to be in the middle of a scandal in Frank's end 
days. I have no doubt that his son's asscapades hastened his death.

  I've sold several Frazetta paintings and numerous illustrations. The quality 
of them was unmatched by others of his time.

  he was one o fthe top illustrators of the 20th century and in the last 3rd of 
the century there can be no doubt that he influenced more artists than Norman 
Rockwell did in the first 3rd (although I will admit, more of the artists 
Rockwell influenced - like Frank himself - are better artists than the ones 
Frank influenced except for guys like Dave Stevens and Mark Schulz)

  Frank is gone, but his legend lives on!

  Rich

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[MOPO] FS: Great Lugosi 3 sheet on linen

[Phil Edwards]

Hi MOPERs,

Here we have one of the best of the Bela Lugosi post-DRACULA posters from the 
actor's early days on Poverty Row.
Wonderful period piece.

http://www.cinemarts.com/viewitem.aspx?id=3394

More pics on request. FedEx is the best shipping option.

Regards,
Phil E.

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Re: [MOPO] FS/FA: Welcome to a new MOPOer

[Phil Edwards]

Welcome Matthew,
The standard protocol is to put either FS (for sale) FA (for auction) WTB 
(Wanted to Buy) in the subject line or the dreaded OT (Off topic).


Some of us think there should be one for BS, as well.

I'm sure everyone will agree you are not an idiot for not doing this.
In fact lots of people forget to do it all the time.

Here's a question on one of your items.
That UK one sheet for GUNFIGHT AT THE O.K. CORRAL I have seen described as a 
1964 re-release, I've had one for a number of years, and it's a great 
poster - especially on that lovely stock they used for British one sheets.


Any GATOKC affionados enlighten us?

Phil E.


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Timpson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] IT WAS FORTY YEARS AGO TODAY


Not sure if it's appropriate to put this here as I am new and maybe an 
idiot, and still here it goes. i am selling off my poster collection from 
a lifetime of collecting.

A link to one of the posters follows.

http://cgi.ebay.com/THOMAS-CROWN-AFFAIR-ORIGINAL-ONE-1-SHEET-POSTER-/160434550385?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255aa4f671

if this is bad news. Tell me and then forgive me.

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Re: [MOPO] Bizarro fleaBay result

[Phil Edwards]

Let's face it. How often does a good tit shot of George Sanders come up for 
sale?

I see no mystery here.

Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "Bubba Despres" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Bizarro fleaBay result



Wow, and still 4 hours to go!

Louie

Richard Halegua Comic Art  5/19/2010 4:54:45 PM 
 >>>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200471960199&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123#ht_3315wt_908

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Re: [MOPO] they don't make movies "like they used to"?

[Phil Edwards]

Crikey!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:30 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] they don't make movies "like they used to"?


  All the time I hear people say that they don't make movies "like they used 
to", and while I agree that often is a bad thing, it is also sometimes a really 
GREAT thing that they don't make them like they used to, as illustrated by the 
following super offensive ad I found in my extensive archive of movie 
advertising:
  (WARNING: It is both extremely racist, especially in the small text below the 
image, and it will surely lower your opinion of Hal Roach)
  http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/Pickaninny.jpg

  Bruce


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Re: [MOPO] Article on EBAY's Recent Problems

[Phil Edwards]

They are incapable of such thought. They employ a bunch of executives who 
have to reach sales targets and justify their day to day existence. Most 
large corporations work this way now.


They also have, I am sure, the same culture of fear for employees that has 
become standard practice, i.e. don't perform, then there are plenty of 
people who are waiting in line to take your job.


The logic of free-listing has been staring them in the face for years now, 
and the back end rape, as DD calls it, is only matched by the reach around 
front end.


Phil
- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Dilts" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Article on EBAY's Recent Problems


They already rape you on the back end with final sale percentages then 
double dip you on the paypal fees, I don't know why they don't just let 
everyone list for free and just take their back-end cuts. That would 
increase the amounts of listings immensely and might actual get traffic 
numbers going the right direction.





- Original Message -
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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:43:33 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Article on EBAY's Recent Problems

At 03:19 PM 5/20/2010, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote:


The changes are working OK for me but I dont know if they will ultimately 
be a good thing for eBay. Sellers who take the time to work out how the 
system works can manipulate their listings so that they appear high in the 
searches. However, most dont have the time to work the system and their 
listings become lost. Many sellers have given up on auctions and now just 
concentrate on fixed price listings.


The big problem for eBay is that they keep changing their groundrules. The 
end result is that they have lost many great sellers like Bruce and Rich 
and others who have set up successful websites.

John is correct. Bruce and I have set up successful websites : - )

but he's right otherwise also. people are gaming the system and as a 
buyer - the site is a pain in the a$$


I wish I could:
1) filter out the sellers who never list anything I want and yet weekly 
relist their items making me take more time to look at the auction 
listing. just to click a button that says "hide this seller" would be 
great


2) get rid of the people selling repros in the originals category

3) send each non-poster seller a tutorial on how to pack posters, so that 
the super-rare wc I found for Dylan's Don't Look Back which was an ebay 
treasure won for $1.99 and was nice & flat, does not get shipped in a 
bubble envelope that the post office used as a conveyer belt bumper panel 
before forwarding on to me. Yeah she refunded the $1.99 to me.. but the 
poster went from $250-350 down to $25


I'm sure I have other suggestions.. those are the main gripes
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Re: [MOPO] Article on EBAY's Recent Problems

[Phil Edwards]

I don't think people are so much complaining about the wrongs ( or "rights") of 
eBay, but it's obvious that for many people it used to be a major income stream 
which has becone fouled by a not so peculiar brand of corporate thinking.

For folks with their own website, or profile established within the poster 
collecting community eBay used to be a way of advertising themselves.
Clearly, ebay realised this and hence their approach to trying to take a slice 
of the pie from everywhere and every opportunity.

Ari is correct in saying that if you don't like it, don't use it.

As for Andy Neal's comment, it's what the OE function of sending any particular 
email sender straight to the junk folder was made for.

I actually don't understand your problem, Andy.

Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ari Richards 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Article on EBAY's Recent Problems


  said it so many times, and I am not claiming to be a genious, but anyone who 
doesn't like it, don't use it. kinda simple. I don't go to Macdonalds because 
their food tasks like $%^&, I don't drink pepsi, its gross, I don't use ebay, 
dont like it anymore. The gun at your head is in your imagination.
  Just use MPB or whatever. complaining about a site that owes you NO rights - 
they have the right to do as they please if legal - seems weird. DONT GO THERE. 
kinda easy.

  Ari



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  Sent: Fri, 21 May, 2010 9:21:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Article on EBAY's Recent Problems

  >  I don't know why they don't just let everyone list for free and just take 
their back-end cuts.

  Dale.. you are right and wrong at the same time

  #1.. that should have been the philosophy all along

  #2.. every Stu Holstein or Mrs Miniver out there would clutter it up with 
$1,000,000 priced listings worth $125 each and that would clutter it up just as 
badly

  I really wish I could filter out sellers. but to fleaBay, here's the neg:
  yes, you would only see the real actual auctions (meaning, material with no 
reserves, start at low prices compared to value and are not just retail 
listings). however, you would see that there are just 5000 or so "real" 
auctions in the almost 1,000,000 listed in Entertainment Memorabilia (that is 
.05% of listings!). And I'm being generous at 5000.. believe me

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Re: [MOPO] Batman - Heritage question

[Phil Edwards]

Was that the withdrawn advance or the one they used?

  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
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  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:00 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] Batman - Heritage question


  Just had a query from a customer about the Batman (1989) advance one sheet. 
They are saying it should measure 27" x 41" but the one I have measures 27" x 
40". 

  I had a look through the Heritage archives to see what they had sold and 
there have been a number of advance one sheets auctioned. The interesting thing 
is that the meaurements vary for this poster with different sales from 27" x 
40" to 27" x 40.5" to 27" x 41". I dont know if this is because the posters 
actually varied in size or if there was just an error in listing the actual 
size (understandible if they are slightly smaller than the usual US one sheet).

  Can anyone shed any light on what the actual size of the advance should be? 

  Regards
  John


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[MOPO] Easy Rider - Somewhat OT, but a fascinating piece of film journalism.

[Phil Edwards]

It definitely helps if you like movies as well as movie posters, though
Phil

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/2010/feature-articles/a-legacy-went-searching-for-a-film%E2%80%A6-dennis-hopper-and-easy-rider/

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Re: [MOPO] Fw: Batman 1989 Question re Heritage and other listings

[Phil Edwards]

I can think of only one other area of discussion where the difference of an 
inch can be of such interest and of such importance.
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: Batman 1989 Question re Heritage and other listings


  Thanks Bruce
  I'm not being critical at all of Heritage but could you let me know if we can 
rely on the accuracy of the measurements of these posters ie 3 different sizes 
for the advance one sheet. It would be understandable if the sizes listed were 
approximate but I would be surprised if there were actually 3 different sizes 
printed for the original release. 

  I had a look through Bruce's archives but there doesnt seem to be a way of 
checking the actual measurements of the posters he has sold although he does 
refer to a glossy and a matte version.


  Regards
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- Original Message - 
From: Carteron, Bruce - 1551 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 3:13 AM
Subject: [MOPO] Fw: Batman 1989 Question re Heritage and other listings


 

I do know that there was a flat and a glossy version of the advance printed 
and that they used the advance style for the regular release instead of a new 
style (originally they were going to use an image of Batman) also which might 
have meant a different size printed again. 

 

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of JOHN 
REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 5:50 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Fw: Batman 1989 Question re Heritage and other listings

 

I was a little surprised that no one responded to my email below (apart 
from one private email) re the anomalies in Batman Advance one sheets in 
various auctions. I actually checked www.filmfan.com and there is no record of 
my email which is a little strange.The one sheets have been described by the 
"experts" on different occasions as being:

 

1. 27" x 40"

2. 27" x 40.5"

3. 27" x 41"

4. Glossy finish

5. Matt Finish

6. Withdrawn version

 

etc etc etc.  

 

All are supposed to be original Batman advance/teaser posters from 1989. 
There are a number of posters listed as original advance one sheets on eBay at 
the moment and they range in price from $7.99 - $235.00 for supposedly the same 
poster.

 

Bruce and Heritage both list various different versions of the same poster. 
Heritage actually has 3 different sizes for the same advance one sheet listed 
in their archives. Is that possible? 

 

Batman (Warner Brother, 1989). Advance One Sheet (27" X 41"). "Where does 
he get those wonderful toys?" Jack Nicholson had a... (Total: 1 Items) 

 

Batman (Warner Brothers, 1989) Advance One Sheet (27" X 40"). "Where does 
he get those wonderful toys?" Jack Nicholson had a... (Total: 1 Items) 

 

Batman Lot (Warner Brothers, 1989). One Sheet (27" X 40.5") Advance and 
Program (8.25" X 11.75"). Action.
... (Total: 2 Items) 

 

 

Does anyone have any definitive information on this poster?

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:00 AM

Subject: [MOPO] Batman - Heritage question

 

Just had a query from a customer about the Batman (1989) advance one sheet. 
They are saying it should measure 27" x 41" but the one I have measures 27" x 
40". 

 

I had a look through the Heritage archives to see what they had sold and 
there have been a number of advance one sheets auctioned. The interesting thing 
is that the meaurements vary for this poster with different sales from 27" x 
40" to 27" x 40.5" to 27" x 41". I dont know if this is because the posters 
actually varied in size or if there was just an error in listing the actual 
size (understandible if they are slightly smaller than the usual US one sheet).

 

Can anyone shed any light on what the actual size of the advance should be? 

 

Regards

John

 

 

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PO Box 92
Palm Beach
Qld 4221
Australia

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Re: [MOPO] So I was just looking at a ramdom box of pressbooks I have...

[Phil Edwards]

Wouldn't a series of books, similar to your poster books series, be worth 
condsidering?

While pressbooks might not be as "sexy" as posters, many great ones are marvels 
of design in themselves.

Alternatively, one terrific book, done like VALLEY OF THE CLIFFHANGERS, would 
be a visual feast, a great reference.

Books like THE LOST ART OF HOLLYWOOD (tarde ad art) and THE INVISIBLE ART 
(matte paining art) show that there is much more than
posters to the art of film making.

Phil E.






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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:11 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] So I was just looking at a ramdom box of pressbooks I have...


  So I was just looking at a ramdom box of pressbooks I have and I came across 
a bunch of old ones I had forgotten about, and in there was The Lost World and 
Tarzan the Ape Man.

  What wonderful posters both those movies had, and isn't it weird that there 
isn't anywhere in the world where you can go (either physically or digitally) 
and look through the contents of those pressbooks, and tens of thousands of 
others?

  Bruce

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[MOPO] OT, sort of.... Museums, Institutions and Bizarre "logic" .....

[Phil Edwards]

One of the finest collections I have ever seen was donated to a "museum" 
and I use the word loosely.

It has never been seen again.

And then there is the story of another "museum" who received so many 
donations of film memorabilia from all over Australia following a TV 
documentary, they couldn't keep track of it all and firstly got to a stage 
where they couldn't keep up with the incoming inventory, then couldn't keep 
up with unpacking the parcels, then couldn't keep up with logging who had 
sent the items (not everyone puts a return address on a parcel) then decided 
they only wanted to keep material related to Australian films, then decided 
they need to thin out the space and returned packages to the wrong people (I 
know someone who got three crates of stuff that they had no idea whose it 
was, all they knew is that it wasn't what they donated) then decided they 
wanted to hire someone to sort the stuff out because no one at the "museum" 
actually knew how to identify a daybill from an insert or a window card from 
a  lobby card, or an original from a re-release.
They figured such an "expert" would be able to do these approximately 
200,000 items in 24 hours, maybe 48 at a stretch.


When the  "expert" explained that physically, timewise that would be pretty 
close to impossible and what they needed to do was what many major such 
institutions do and actually work at it as a proper project which would 
allow them to trade not-related material with other institutions, sell off 
excess to acquire more desirable/collection appropriate pieces and 
collections (you know, they way real national galleries do) they thought 
this was worth talking about and booked the "expert" on the plane the next 
day. A 2 hour flight. They even booked the "expert" into a motel for the 
night.


Two hours later, they called the "expert" and said they had decided to 
re-think the whole thing. Last I heard the same chaos was ongoing. And the 
reason to can the trip? Cost... Yep, all $300 (motel included) couldn't be 
"justified within the budget".


Museums are great places to go visit on rainy afternoons, and when they are 
professionally run museums like the V&A and the Science Museum in London 
(who were two of my major clients for some years back then) they can be a 
delight to deal with from a professional standpoint, where in those 
instances the curators of the relevant departments really knew their stuff 
and really loved it.


The Art Gallery of NSW is similarly one of the finest institutions of its 
type. A few years ago they had a great exhibition of Lawrence Bassoff's film 
noir posters to tie in with his book, CRIME SCENES.


More locally, Newcastle Art Gallery has done some great shows, too. The fact 
they beat out both the National Gallery in Canberra and the Art Gallery of 
NSW a few years back to the major Annie Lieberwitz exhibition was something 
of a coup.


However when the Lieberwitz exhibition went to Perth, there were letters to 
the newspapers and editorials that the famous shot of John and Yoko should 
be removed, not because of the nudity or it being pornographic, but because 
it was offensive because it showed a white man in a submissive pose to an 
Asian woman.


Phil E.


- Original Message - 
From: "Evan Zweifel" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] So I was just looking at a ramdom box of pressbooks I 
have...



Sure, museum, fine.  But before you entomb them, please load digital 
versions onto the internet, so we can all enjoy them.


evan

- Original Message -
From: "Posteritati" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:09:36 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [MOPO] So I was just looking at a ramdom box of pressbooks I 
have...


Bruce,


These should be in a museum or institution. The amount of potential 
research in them is incredible.



regards,
sam



On May 23, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Phil Edwards wrote:




Wouldn't a series of books, similar to your poster books series, be worth 
condsidering?


While pressbooks might not be as "sexy" as posters, many great ones are 
marvels of design in themselves.


Alternatively, one terrific book, done like VALLEY OF THE CLIFFHANGERS, 
would be a visual feast, a great reference.


Books like THE LOST ART OF HOLLYWOOD (tarde ad art) and THE INVISIBLE ART 
(matte paining art) show that there is much more than

posters to the art of film making.

Phil E.






- Original Message - 



From: Bruce Hershenson
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:11 AM
Subject: [MOPO] So I was just looking at a ramdom box of pressbooks I 
have...


So I was just looking at a ramdom box of pressbooks I have and I came 
across a bunch of old ones I had forgotten about, and in there was The 
Lo

Re: [MOPO] 3rd Party Grading Comes to Posters

[Phil Edwards]

Well, I'll second that. More than once over the years that I have known him 
after I joined MOPO, Todd has been happy to answer a question for me simply to 
share knowledge where there's nothing in it for him and, what's more, has been 
gentleman enough not to even want to know why it is what I want to know.

Phil Edwards
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steven Yafet 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 8:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3rd Party Grading Comes to Posters


  A few months ago, Todd (Feiertag) examined four of my lobby cards.  Although 
I was more than willing to pay him for his time, he said that he was happy to 
help.  Not only did he ease my mind, but he also explained everything as he 
went along and showed me why he was convinced that my cards were authentic.  
Although this is the first time that I have physically brought items to Todd 
for inspection, he has looked at numerous auctions that I forwarded for his 
opinion and told me why each one was or was not a good deal.  

  His expertise and knowledge are astounding.  

  I wanted to thank him publicly on MOPO for helping me so often.

  Nathalie




  On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Todd Feiertag  wrote:

Virtually everyone in the hobby was fooled...
 
Jim,
 
I WASN'T FOOLED!!
 
And there were a lot of other knowledgeable collectors who weren't fooled 
either.  Again, you don't know what you're talking about.  
 
If John was so concerned and wanted to "help the industry" so much, he 
shouldn't have charged $175. plus, to authenticate each item.  I guess you also 
think Carol Tincup was another person who was trying to "help the industry" 
when she charged you $350. an item.
 
Jim, there were many collectors who sent me posters and lobby cards to 
authenticate.  Do you know how much I charged them??  $00.00, ZERO, NADDA, 
NOTHING.  Now, you tell me, who's really trying to "help the industry" or help 
out collectors, John and Carol??

 
Yet, you still support the creator of this entire mess. 
 

I know you're referring to Jaime but the creator of this mess was your good 
buddy Kerry and Kerry alone.
 
Charges against Jaime were dropped by the court as there was no evidence to 
bring a case against him.
 
Again, I'll give you this analogy...
 
If I own a gun shop and sell someone a gun and they go out and kill 10 
people, is the gun shop owner liable??  NO.  Is the gun manufacturer liable??  
NO.
 
Guess who's liable??  The guy who decided to break the law and kill 10 
people, that's who's responsible, not the gun shop owner and not the gun 
manufacturer.
 
How come you didn't bring a lawsuit against Anthony in New York??  After 
all, Anthony is the one who actually did the printing.  I haven't seen you 
mention anything about him??  If Jaime is responsible, Anthony should also be 
just as responsible.  
 
Jim, as much as you'd like the gun shop owner to be responsible for the 
deaths of those 10 people, he's not the one.
 
Differences aside...I feel real bad for you Jim, since your loss in this 
situation is by far the biggest and far worse than anybody elses and honestly, 
I hope that you eventually get every penny back.  I can also understand your 
frustration and how stressful this has been on you and your family losing so 
much money and I can also understand you want anyone that had anything to do 
with this held accountable and I don't blame you one bit.  I just hope that 
this gets resolved and resolved to your benefit 100%.  
 
Todd   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 18:25:11 -0400
From: jimgres...@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3rd Party Grading Comes to Posters
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Todd what you aren't saying is that he repaired that Dracula Window card 
prior to this fake problem surfacing.  No one suspected anything.  All 
approaches changed when it was discovered the hobby had a bad problem.  
Virtually everyone in the hobby was fooled, not just John.  And when awareness 
of the problem surfaced, John and others then took a different look at things.  
Yet, you still support the creator of this entire mess.  It seems pretty ironic 
that on one hand you support the 100% creator of fakes, but hammer on the guy 
trying to help this industry.

Jim Gresham 
18501 Henry Ct. 
Ray, Mi 48096 
586 677-7669
Go to www.childrenofthenightbook.com






Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 18:17:47 -0400
From: toddfeier...@msn.com
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3rd Party Grading Comes to Posters
To: 

[MOPO] OT - a Great Invention!

[Phil Edwards]

One of the great things about email is the Block Sender function, especially 
for such things as groups like MOPO where one chooses to receive the email 
version so these things drop through the slot like mail for those of us who are 
online most of the time.

It allows you to automatically send emails direct to the Deleted Folder, or a 
spam folder.

It's great for those people who, from time to time, demonstrate that the chip 
on their shoulder has grown to such a degree that it has turned them into The 
Man With Two Heads.

It's great when you can make the computer say, "No."

Phil E.

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Re: [MOPO] minty Whites

[Phil Edwards]

I was seeing them come in to Australia in the very early 90s especially 
the three you mention, Channing.

Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "channinglylethomson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:15 AM
Subject: [MOPO] minty Whites


I'm sorry to bring it up but I was wondering when the "minty white" 
inserts first appeared.  I had a few inserts purchased in the late  1980s 
on Jaws, Blade Runner, Raiders of the Lost Ark.  Would these  have been 
fakes?

Thanks, Channing

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Re: [MOPO] Todd's The Man!

[Phil Edwards]

Let's not lose sight of the fact it's not the size of your Golem, it's how you 
frame it.

Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: flixs...@aol.com 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Todd's The Man!


  Okay, okay, okay. Let's not lose sight that this conversation started with 
several people commenting truthfully about Todd's generosity in authenticating 
lobby cards for FREE out of concern for the blight thrust upon us all by the 
Horror Fakes.  He is always willing to help in that respect. He is also a 
walking/talking history of the last 30 years of collecting, remembers all the 
names and has so many great stories he freely shares.  

  So let me end this all as no doubt he is red with embarrassment,  that TODD 
IS THE MAN.  He is huge.   He has an enormous GOLEM
  'nuff said.

  freeman

  In a message dated 6/1/2010 1:38:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
sa...@comic-art.com writes:
I also like Todd very much.

when I lived back East, and would see him at shows, we always had a chat.
we also had breakfast or dinner a couple times (most memorably in Dallas 
once)

at a Cinevent around 1986/87 he sold me a King King 1952R 1sh that 
has been proudly displayed ever since

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Re: [MOPO] WTB: Kiss of Death one sheet

[Phil Edwards]

It's a great movie, but Victor Mature is no Robert Mitchum and GUN CRAZY is, in 
many ways, a one-of-a-kind movie, thanks to Joe Lewis's direction... and has 
great art.

Channing's notes that the studio deliberately wanted monochrome full bleed art 
for the one sheet is interesting and one wonders what was behind this thinking. 
But I don't see great design elements in this poster. Oddly enough, the 
Australian paper, especialy the daybill is much more attractive, using similar 
art and in colour.
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Evans 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB: Kiss of Death one sheet


  Just checked, Channing still has his.
  
http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-DEATH-MOVIE-POSTER-RARE-ORIG-1948-NOIR-1-SHEET-/360269639208?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e1be6e28

  Don't know why this one isn't valued more highly generally, unless people 
find the monochrome a turn off.
  Up there with Out of the Past and Gun Crazy paper for me.
  Top Noir (literally) poster.




  On 5 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Posteritati wrote:


MOPO,


We're looking for one, thanks!


Best,
Stan


Posteritati
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New York, NY  10013
212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102
http://www.posteritati.com/








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Re: [MOPO] WTB: Kiss of Death one sheet

[Phil Edwards]

I think part of the problem is Mature...  he was  a well-known Hollywood woose, 
who played tough guys but was far from a tough guy, but a hell of a nice 
man and a fine actor in the right roles.

Mitchum, on the other hand, was a hell of a nice man but who could nail you 
into the ground like tack if you pissed him off.

Somewhere, floating aorund, are the out takes from his THE BIG SLEEP with his 
set-to's with Michael Winner.

KISS OF DEATH is a great movie, but for a Mature noir one sheet, I much prefer 
CRY OF THE CITY.

Can we see a pic of the KOD 3 sheet please Kirby?



  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB: Kiss of Death one sheet


  I must say I disagree with Phil here.  I think it's a really good poster, 
and, in my view
  it's one of those posters that looks better "in the flesh", so to speak than 
any picture
  can communicate.  We have the three sheet but not a one sheet.


  Kirby




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  P.O. Box 4419
  Austin TX 78765-4419
  512 479 6680  www.movieart.net
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  On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Phil Edwards wrote:


It's a great movie, but Victor Mature is no Robert Mitchum and GUN CRAZY 
is, in many ways, a one-of-a-kind movie, thanks to Joe Lewis's direction... and 
has great art.

Channing's notes that the studio deliberately wanted monochrome full bleed 
art for the one sheet is interesting and one wonders what was behind this 
thinking. But I don't see great design elements in this poster. Oddly enough, 
the Australian paper, especialy the daybill is much more attractive, using 
similar art and in colour.
Phil
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Evans
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB: Kiss of Death one sheet


  Just checked, Channing still has his.
  
http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-DEATH-MOVIE-POSTER-RARE-ORIG-1948-NOIR-1-SHEET-/360269639208?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e1be6e28

  Don't know why this one isn't valued more highly generally, unless people 
find the monochrome a turn off.
  Up there with Out of the Past and Gun Crazy paper for me.
  Top Noir (literally) poster.




  On 5 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Posteritati wrote:


MOPO,


We're looking for one, thanks!


Best,
Stan


Posteritati
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New York, NY  10013
212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102
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Re: [MOPO] KISS OF DEATH THREE SHEET

[Phil Edwards]

Definitely works betters as a three sheet.
Now that is a nice poster.
Phil


- Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:34 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] KISS OF DEATH THREE SHEET




  Can you see this?  This is the three sheet for
  KISS OF DEATH.

  Kirby


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Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum members REALLY...

[Phil Edwards]

I live in a small town too, a fishing village on the mid north coast of NSW. 
The only time it's busy are the Christmas and Easter holidays when it's a 
tourist destination for people from Sydney or out west.

People say hello as they pass each other while out walking their dogs, or even 
when they aren't
walking their dogs and just jogging or walking.

People in shops one frequent regularly talk about their weekends, their 
families, and you do too. Local kids play out on the street, go surfing.
During whale migration season the cliffs are full of people whale watching.

During the holiday season when the bucks are made by the local cafes, 
restaurants and fishing co-ops, one can tell the tourists by their rude and 
arrogant manners, and total disregard for road safety of any kind.

If you hold the door open for a local, they say thank you. If you do the same 
for a tourist, they wonder what the "motive" is.

I spent 50 of my 60 years being an urban dweller - Sydney, London, New York, 
LA, Paris and now I can't imagine living back in Sydney or London or even 
LA. I haven't been back to NYC for years, but Paris is still high on the list 
to go to again with someone special.

As for the subject line, all forums and groups go through trainwrecks, and all 
have members who seem to have bad patches. My guess is Bruce is right with his 
list - a little bit of everything, or a lot of one of those things. The 
relative anonymity of group members is you can say things and behave in a way 
that you wouldn't do face to face... because you might get a flattened nose out 
of it.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum 
members REALLY...


  There's a difference between you big city boys and us small town fellas. In 
West Plains it is EXPECTED that you hold a door for any lady, and you get odd 
looks if you don't.

  2010 West Plains reminds me a lot of 1960 Great Neck, New York, except I am 
50 years older!

  Bruce


  On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
 wrote:

I always hold teh door for any woman and frequently wait for one walking 
towards where ever I am and it doesn't matter if she's a foxy babe or not.. 
I was taught that you hold the door and always let a lady go first.
But it isn't practiced by very many and I even see guys trying to beat 
women to doors or squeezing by them without any respect.
the responses you get from ladies goes from, as Tom said, cautious to very 
thankful 
there is always the "oh. are you holding the door for me. I haven't had a 
man do that for me in ages"
and the just walks right on by and doesn't even look at you or say thank 
you, but those are few.
the great percentage of women you hold a door for are very happy and always 
offer you a smile and say thanks..





At 05:15 PM 6/6/2010, Tom A. Pennock wrote:

  Not too long ago I was at the Post Office and I took the door to hold the 
door for a woman. She looked at me puzzled as to what my motive was or what I 
was going to do. Then she realized I just wanted to open the door for a lady 
and had some manners. Really sad when you can't even hold a door open for 
someone without your motives coming into question. 
   
  --Tom Pennock 
   
  In a message dated 6/6/2010 8:05:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
sya...@gmail.com writes:

Me too.


Civility seems to have eroded everywhere.  Many times I pick up 
multiple packages from my post office box and I can count on less than three 
fingers how often people coming in will hold the door.


Nathalie




On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art 
 wrote:

  At 01:56 PM 6/6/2010, Franc wrote:

I think a general lack of civility is everywhere, not just in 
on-line forums. FRANC



  I couldn't agree more with this


  the reality is that when you have certain tv stations, radio hosts 
and other leaders spilling vitriol on a daily basis it permeates throughout. 
One major over-riding factor however is this: people have come to believe that 
everything they think is right IS while thinkng everything other people think 
about IS NOT. It's an inability to look objectively ate things and understand 
there is give and take, what's good for the goose is what's good for the gander 
and regardless of whether you agree with your opposites or not, you're supposed 
to treat people with mutual respect as well as respect the beliefs of your 
opposites.


  it isn't confined to America, but admittedly our nation is a hotspot 
for such behavior

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Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum members REALLY testy as of late?

[Phil Edwards]

But, but, but that would entail talking about movie posters, and lobby cards 
and stuff like that.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Linkenback 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum 
members REALLY testy as of late?


  I am very surprised that we haven't seen any reviews/talk about Cinevent 
either during or after the show.
  Would certainly love to know from people that went how they did or didn't 
enjoy it.  I have been extremely tied up since I got back, but will be happy to 
contribute my own review shortly and would like to hear from others.

  Sean


- Original Message - 
From: Doug Taylor 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum 
members REALLY testy as of late?


The biggest change I've seen in MOPO is how little movie poster 
conversation takes place and how much conversation takes place about how MOPO 
has changed.  Seriously.

 

I love MOPO, but we seem to forever be talking about "what MOPO has become".

 

Regards

 

DBT

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REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:10 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum 
members REALLY testy as of late?

 

I havent seen any real change in MoPo. There have always been times when 
people get testy over various issues. Anyone who posts an opinion should be 
prepared to accept that some may not agree with that opinion. 

 

 

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  Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:48 AM

  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum 
members REALLY testy as of late?

   

  Rich

  I couldn't agree more its gotten so its not worth stating a view unless 
you want to listen to a tirade from those that disagree and even those that 
agree. Back in the sixties when I was quite active in politics we would 
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three with the opposition. It was civil AND FUN. There is No one right answer.

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Richard Halegua Comic Art
  Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:39 PM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Is it my imagination or are many movie poster forum 
members REALLY testy as of late?

   

  At 01:56 PM 6/6/2010, Franc wrote:

  I think a general lack of civility is everywhere, not just in on-line 
forums. FRANC



  I couldn't agree more with this

  the reality is that when you have certain tv stations, radio hosts and 
other leaders spilling vitriol on a daily basis it permeates throughout. One 
major over-riding factor however is this: people have come to believe that 
everything they think is right IS while thinkng everything other people think 
about IS NOT. It's an inability to look objectively ate things and understand 
there is give and take, what's good for the goose is what's good for the gander 
and regardless of whether you agree with your opposites or not, you're supposed 
to treat people with mutual respect as well as respect the beliefs of your 
opposites.

  it isn't confined to America, but admittedly our nation is a hotspot for 
such behavior

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Re: [MOPO] Lawrence of Arabia Oscars WC arrives in s*** condition.

[Phil Edwards]

I have a stack of unused window cards. No great titles - probably all in the 
$10-$35 range. Certainly no LAWRENCE's but a few thing that colelctots might 
like.

Of course  unless they are very thin, and many w/cs are not, the only safe way 
to ship a w/c is flat, because they are almost impossible to roll
tight enough without using a very wide diameter tube to avoid paper crinkle. 
And if you are using a gorilla tube, then that's about the same weight as 
boards that size and suitable strength.. which means that postage on such an 
item seems ludicrous - esp. if it's to the other side of the world. And so the 
eBay shipping cost nazis come out of their cells.

Now with something like LAWRENCE here, or indeed any title that someone REALLY 
wants to arrive in pristine shape, even say a NIGHT THEY RAIDED MINSKY'S or 
similar value title, and are willing to pay the extra, and tell the seller etc 
etc, and this turns up, then it's time to see red.

It's enough to give you the shits, as my mother used to say.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: flixs...@aol.com 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Lawrence of Arabia Oscars WC arrives in s*** condition.


  DAVID,
  YOU ARE JUST GETTING TOO PICKY FOR YOUR BRITCHES!   IT WAS STILL AN ORIGINAL 
RE-RELEASE!  YEESH, SOME PEOPLE..actually now it kind of looks like a 
Kandinsky,  all squished circles and squares

  freeman 

  In a message dated 6/7/2010 4:38:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
davidmkusum...@hotmail.com writes:
Lawrence of Arabia Oscars WC arrives in s*** condition.

OK, MoPo'ers, take a look:

Despite excruciating shipping instructions to the seller of an unfolded 
"Lawrence of Arabia" window card -- for which I paid an even $50.00 
out-the-door for -- this is what arrived today:



The seller goes by "kandinsky55" at eBay.  

Her original eBay posting is here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110525153464

You already know what I'm thinking and how frustrated/angry I am -- I paid 
$50 for this, hardly a rare item -- but it was in super shape, no flaws.

I'm now looking for an UNFOLDED replacement for this -- and of course -- 
I'm also still looking for the ROADSHOW STYLE, the latter for which I'll pay 
$900-$1K in super condition. -d.



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Re: [MOPO] Profiles in History

[Phil Edwards]

After the dreadful debacle of the DRACULA one sheet last time (a  mystery of 
which we really never heard any more of) I guess they needed to make sure this 
one was special - and indeed it is.

Great catalogue, and the gratis copy received means they actually pay attention 
to who talks to who in this business.

John is correct - it's a great mix of material and is full of fascinating info.

Phil


  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:32 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Profiles in History


  Well, the last Profiles in History auction attracted quite a bit of attention 
but I'm surprised that there has been no comment on the current auction - 
Hollywood Auction #40. 

  I have to say that the catalogue is one of the best I have seen in recent 
times and the collection of memorabilia, including movie posters, vintage 
stills, etc that is up for auction is quite extraordinary. The catalogue in 
itself is a great read.

  Congratulations to Profiles in History.

  John

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[MOPO]

[Phil Edwards]

The Australian daybill for SUNSET BOULEVARD is rather nice.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Evans 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 5:11 AM
  Subject: [MOPO]


  Oh, and though I can't really think of a Sunset Boulevard poster I really 
like (or Double Indemnity unfortunately), the swimming pool card evokes the 
spirit very well.




  On 10 Jun 2010, at 07:49, steve olson wrote:


Hello,

I don’t post much but after reading Dark City (thanks to whomever suggested 
the book) I wanted an opinion of what noir posters MOPO’ers thought best evoked 
the spirit of noir’s. No, not necessarily the most beautiful (e.g. This Gun For 
Hire 1sh) nor the best images of the stars (e.g. Gilda) but the posters that 
capture the fatalism, grim streets, desperation, duplicity, temptation, and 
broken hopes which inhabit Dark City.

Now to start the abused and discarded, deflated, never quite reaching the 
top of the hill before rolling into oblivion noir ball rolling-

1. Cry of the City (20th Century Fox, 1948). Half sheet or insert- best 
image of noir photographic style?
2. The killing.  half sheet-  luridly colored corpses make for the 
meanest of noir posters
3. Stranger on the Third Floor (RKO, 1940). One Sheet-  1st noir also 
has the 1st great noir poster
4. D.O.A.  3 sheet (1 sheet and half are also great, w/ the half having 
a toe tag around his body)
5. Nightmare alley.  insert- meaner Powers face than the 1 sheet.
6. Night Has a Thousand Eyes (Paramount, 1948). One sheet- with all the 
eyes
7. The Big Combo (Allied Artists, 1955). Half Sheet – fatalism, femme 
fatale, dark streets
8. Mystery Street (MGM, 1950). One Sheet- great noir art for an 
inexpensive poster
9. Kiss of death. 1 sheet- at least one great poster is in black and 
white
10.   Raw Deal (Eagle Lion, 1948). One sheet- very raw
11.   I Walk Alone (Paramount, 1948). One sheet- vivid
12.   T-Men. One sheet- kitchen sink of noir posters
13.   Killer’s Kiss. 1sheet- cold as you would expect from Kubrick and an 
ax (Here’s Johnny!!)
14.   The Devil Thumbs a Ride (RKO, 1947). 1 sheet- is Lawrence Tierney Ben 
Affleck’s evil noir alter-ego?


I stuck to USA posters  since noir’s are mostly an American phenomenon. 
Otherwise the Italians(The Enforcer 2 folio, High Sierra (R-1949).  2  Folio,  
Knock on Any Door (Columbia, 1949) 2 – Folio) might have had a few well 
deserved entries. I also didn’t include tc/lc’s but would love feedback as to 
some of the best. Two of my favorite are the lc of Night of the Hunter w/  
Mitchum close-up (love/ hate) and lc of The 3rd Man with Harry Lime (Welles) 
looking like the trapped rat he was.

All opinions will be treated civilly except the ones I don’t agree with.
Steve Olson

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[Phil Edwards]

SWIMMING POOL is worth seeing, and not just for Charlotte's  outstanding 
nudidity!



  - Original Message - 
  From: steve olson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 1:57 PM
  Subject: [MOPO]


  Point Blank has some great posters for a newer noir also. As for Rampling, 
she looks great naked at the end of 2003 movie  Swimming Pool at age 57. 

   

  From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Richard 
Evans
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:09 PM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: [MOPO]

   

  Talking of recent, the 1 sht for The Last Seduction is a good one for a fine 
neo-noir.

   

   

  On 10 Jun 2010, at 20:58, John Waldman wrote:





  Rich,

  Actually, I was speaking of the one sheet for Farewell, My Lovely from 1975.  
With Robert Mitchum, and one of my favorite actresses, Charlotte Rampling.  I 
like the image on the poster of Mitchum looking out the window smoking, looking 
rumpled and tough.  Granted, a newer poster, but non the less, a noiresque 
movie and poster.

  A very affordable poster I might add.

  John W

   


--

  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: John Waldman ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 3:10:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO]

  John means Murder My Sweet, which happens to be my #1 poster collection (I 
collect Raymond Chandler)

  however, while I love the movie and the poster is right in front of my desk 
when I'm working so I see it everyday, it is far from a great Noir 1sheet and I 
could think of many others which are better. However, in keeping with MMS, the 
3sheet on the title with a nightgown clad Claire Trevor with a smoking gun in 
her hand is tops!! and the half sheets are better noir posters than the 1sh

  other mentions:
  the Third Man 1s
  Brute Force half sheet with Lancaster over prison
  I Walk Alone halves
  DOA - the halves
  Gun Crazy (why isn't it on your list Steve)
  Captive City
  Kill or Be Killed

  after I get into my collection, I'll be able to list many others as I am very 
heavy with Noir


  At 12:00 PM 6/10/2010, John Waldman wrote:



  This Gun For Hire
   
  Farewell, My Lovely  
  John


  From: Richard Evans 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:48:28 PM
  Subject: [MOPO]

  A few favourites: 

  The Big Sleep French Grande

  The Lost Weekend French Grande (Bat Style)

  In A Lonely Place Argentinean 1 Sht

  Gun Crazy 3 sht

  And of course, Out of Past 1 sht




  On 10 Jun 2010, at 07:49, steve olson wrote:




  Hello,
   
  I don’t post much but after reading Dark City (thanks to whomever suggested 
the book) I wanted an opinion of what noir posters MOPO’ers thought best 
evoked the spirit of noir’s. No, not necessarily the most beautiful (e.g. 
This Gun For Hire 1sh) nor the best images of the stars (e.g. Gilda) but the 
posters that capture the fatalism, grim streets, desperation, duplicity, 
temptation, and broken hopes which inhabit Dark City.
   
  Now to start the abused and discarded, deflated, never quite reaching the top 
of the hill before rolling into oblivion noir ball rolling-
   
  1. Cry of the City (20th Century Fox, 1948). Half sheet or insert- best 
image of noir photographic style?
  2. The killing.  half sheet-  luridly colored corpses make for the 
meanest of noir posters
  3. Stranger on the Third Floor (RKO, 1940). One Sheet-  1st noir also has 
the 1st great noir poster
  4. D.O.A.  3 sheet (1 sheet and half are also great, w/ the half having a 
toe tag around his body)
  5. Nightmare alley.  insert- meaner Powers face than the 1 sheet.
  6. Night Has a Thousand Eyes (Paramount, 1948). One sheet- with all the 
eyes
  7. The Big Combo (Allied Artists, 1955). Half Sheet – fatalism, femme 
fatale, dark streets 
  8. Mystery Street (MGM, 1950). One Sheet- great noir art for an 
inexpensive poster
  9. Kiss of death. 1 sheet- at least one great poster is in black and white
  10.   Raw Deal (Eagle Lion, 1948). One sheet- very raw
  11.   I Walk Alone (Paramount, 1948). One sheet- vivid
  12.   T-Men. One sheet- kitchen sink of noir posters
  13.   Killer’s Kiss. 1sheet- cold as you would expect from Kubrick and an 
ax (Here’s Johnny!!)
  14.   The Devil Thumbs a Ride (RKO, 1947). 1 sheet- is Lawrence Tierney Ben 
Affleck’s evil noir alter-ego?
   
   
  I stuck to USA posters  since noir’s are mostly an American phenomenon. 
Otherwise the Italians(The Enforcer 2 folio, High Sierra (R-1949).  2  Folio,  
Knock on Any Door (Columbia, 1949)2 – Folio) might have had a few well deserved 
entries.. I also didn’t include tc/lc’s but would love feedback as to some 
of the best. Two of my favorite are the lc of Night of the Hunter w/  Mitchum 
close-up (love/ hate) and lc of The 3rd Man with Harry Lime (Welles) looking 
like the trapped rat he was.
   
  All opinio

Re: [MOPO] film noir posters

[Phil Edwards]

NOCTURNE is really something of a forgotten one.
I got the rather lovely daybill in acollection, and it mad me want to track 
down the film.
Definitely offbeat, and the usually too-strident Raft is very good in it.

Worth checking it out if you haven't seen it.

Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Doug Taylor 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] film noir posters


  I love Nocturne.  Also, Johnny O'clock style A and Mystery Street.

   

  Actually, too many to name.  I have a small Noir collection of just images I 
like.  There are so many good ones from which to choose.

   

  Regards

   

  DBT

  Profile

   

  From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of steve olson
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:15 PM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] film noir posters

   

  That's why Cry of the City is probably my favorite noir poster. It best 
captures the cinematography involved in making a great noir. Some poster I love 
such as Detour and Gun Crazy didn't make the list because they are bright and a 
bit cartoony.  

   

  From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Michael B
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:50 PM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: [MOPO] film noir posters

   

  i understand that the point of the comments is to select poster(s) that truly 
depict the "noir" mood of film noir classics.

   

  understanding "noir" takes time.  but i believe noir involves so much of 
dark, dark camera angles, images & shadows and shadows and shadows.

   

  it is sorta ironic and contradictory that noir film posters often had artwork 
colorful images.

   

   

  michael

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Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR

[Phil Edwards]

Odd, we nearly always think of LAWRENCE in terms of its epic scope and 
spectacular visuals, but it has one of the most literate and
precise screenplays of almost any film I can think of.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:06 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR


  Tony Hayward:  I am reminded of the wonderful line Claude Rains (Dryden) gets 
in LAWRENCE:



  Prince Feisal: You, I suspect, are chief architect of this compromise. What 
do you think? 
  Mr. Dryden: Me, your Highness? On the whole, I wish I'd stayed in Tunbridge 
Wells. 




  
http://www.theonion.com/articles/massive-flow-of-bullshit-continues-to-gush-from-bp,17564/


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Re: [MOPO] FS #1: S*x, Dr*gs, and R*ck '*' R*ll! Vintage Exploitation!

[Phil Edwards]

Peter,
Some compelling material - nicely presented and very well priced.
Sales will, I'm sure, be speedy!

Best,
Phil E.

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:20 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] FS #1: S*x, Dr*gs, and R*ck '*' R*ll! Vintage Exploitation!


Howdy all, just wanted to let you know I've finally got a for sale page 
up, as I try to trim my collection to a managable level.  This first batch is 
for the exploitation film lovers, some fun druggie, bad girl, and rawk movie 
posters that might be worth perusing.

Click here to visit, or for those averse to clicking blind URLs:

http://home.earthlink.net/~pmolitor/sale-home.html

Enjoy!

--Peter



   


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Re: [MOPO] Bad Bidder Alert

[Phil Edwards]

Thanks for the dickhead heads up, Gary.

Phil



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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Bad Bidder Alert



Hi Gang - Here's another one to add to your block-bidder list on ebay and
elsewhere:

Craig Scott
Fountain Valley, CA.

ebay ID: zaphod-enterprises

This guy buys a rolled poster and a folded poster, forces me to ship
together to combine on shipping, and then decides to return them in an
inferior tube, and file a PayPal claim because they "were not as
described."  He never said exactly how the posters were not as described,
other than to say "they were not as described," refusing to answer me
after I sent three emails asking what the problem was.  Of course, the
tube he used was crushed and the posters are now damaged...and the Paypal
claim?  he won because PayPal is an ignorant and biased corporation, and I
am appealing (with little luck I'm sure).  People are such boneheads.

My description says "no returns" unless the description is wrong - PayPal
does not care that the buyer provided ZERO information to back his claim,
and that the posters were returned damaged.  Ebay and PayPal, the worst
merger ever.

Thanks for letting me vent.
Best,
Gary

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Re: [MOPO] Historic Cinema closes down

[Phil Edwards]

It used to be owned by Hoyts and it was my job to programme it for 5 years 
along with all the other Hoyts screens. *sniff* - very sad. It was the home 
of the Brisbane Film Festival which often outshone the SFF for innovative 
programming (not mine, the BFF was a separate entity that four-walled the 
house).


Beautiful cinema.

Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Halegua Comic Art" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Historic Cinema closes down



how could anyone want to demolish that theatre


At 08:43 PM 6/14/2010, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote:
Brisbane's historic Regent Cinema will be closing today for redevelopment. 
Yet another of Australia's magnificent cinemas lost forever. This is a 
real tragedy and another example of greed from developers and stupidty of 
policticians.


Photos here ...
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/photogallery/queensland/last-days-of-the-regent/20100607-xoq2.html?selectedImage=0

Full story here 
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/entertainment/curtain-set-to-close-on-regent-theatre-20100607-xnvt.html


Website: www.moviemem.com

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Re: [MOPO] Inv Man Lobby card set

[Phil Edwards]

There's a bizarre irony that it seems INVISIBLE MAN lobby cards have become 
invisible.

One wonders if the film was up against a deadline because the special effects 
and therefor final scenes had not yet been decided when they needed to get the 
pressbooks out to exhibitors.

Good luck in the hunt!

Phil E.




  - Original Message - 
  From: JIM GRESHAM 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:41 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] Inv Man Lobby card set




  Is there anyone alive who actually still knows what an Inv Man lobby card set 
looks like?  the pressbook only has 4 cards in it.  On page 124 of children of 
the Night is the title card & 4 cards.  there are three missing cards.  what I 
am wondering is if there is anyone alive who knows what is missing?  On the top 
of page 127 is a possible card, based upon the pressbook, which we fabricated.  
However, I dont know if it actually existed.  Ken Schacter says he thinks there 
is another silhouette.  any idea who may know what cards are missing?  wouldnt 
it be a shame if we have lost that information forever? 

  -- 
  Ji
  Jim Gresham 
  18501 Henry Ct. 
  Ray, Mi 48096 
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Re: [MOPO] [MOPO) An Oversight I Suspect.

[Phil Edwards]

Well, in the image you an see clearly the 49/ indicating a reissue, provided 
of course you know what 49/ means


Yes, I sure, just an oversight and soon to be corrected.

Phil E.

- Original Message - 
From: "Freeman Fisher" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] [MOPO) An Oversight I Suspect.



Sean,
Great cards CONGRATULATIONS!   But I couldn't help but notice on your 
WIZARD OF OZ Lobby Card that NO WHERE does it say it is the '49 
Re-Release, confusing for the newbie (or anyone!) in that your opening 
sentence states FROM THE ORIGINAL 1939 RELEASE, THE WIZARD OF OZ.   While 
not on the same level of Kerry Haggard selling fakes,  by not clearly 
stating a re-issue is beneath your calibre as an 
attorney/dealer/fill-in-the-blank.  My guess it is just an egregious 
oversight.to be corrected promptly.


Your friend Freeman.




On Jun 19, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote:

I was looking over our 140 - 99¢ NO Reserve auctions today and sure, it 
looks like people have noticed the great  Notorious Best scene card we 
have up right now (even though it is still ridiculously cheap right now), 
or they have started paying attention to the equally cool  Vertigo Scene 
card (that's also pretty darn cheap), or maybe they are sci-fi/horror 
fans and have been watching the Best scene cards from  IT Terror from 
Space or  Son ofDracula . You kind of expect those things to get noticed, 
just like you kind of expect there are a few things that will get 
overlooked - like the only animation piece we have up this time - this 
great  Title Card from Three Caballeros, or or this great lobby from 
Fountainhead.
But what you don't expect is these three great Beatles Pressbooks to all 
be sitting at $10 each, I mean does't this  Hard Day's Night PB usually 
bring $100-150 all by itself?  Maybe people just aren't that much into 
the Beatles anymore?


Or - maybe it means i need to send out a reminder to everyone that they 
should really take a careful look through ALL of our auctions before they 
end tomorrow night - as there are TONS of great deals still to be had.
You can check it all out by going here: 
http://shop.ebay.com/platinumposters/m.html?


Thanks for looking.


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Re: [MOPO] OT: NS4

[Phil Edwards]

Ari is looking into it. It's not just you, Dario.
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dario Casadei 
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:49 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] OT: NS4


  Anyone else having problem login in to NS4?

  Reason I am asking is because have not be able to do so for a few days. This 
is something that has happen to me in the past, wile other has been able to 
view NS4, I haven not.

  Just want to see if it is my puter acting up again.

  Thanks guys,
  dario.

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Re: [MOPO] Some Competition-

[Phil Edwards]

And this is the reply I recieved when I pointed out what they were. The usual 
literate response.

Dear cinemarts,

NO SIR! THESE ARE 1933 NO DOUBT AT ALL .YOU NO NOTHING APPARENTLY..


- magic_carpet_deals
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Some Competition-


  listing says:

  YOU ARE BIDDING ON 2 VERY RARE 1933 ORIGINAL MEXICAN LOBBY CARDS IN DECENT 
SHAPE.IMAGES ARE BRIGHT AND AMAZINGLY VIVID COLOR! FAYE WRAY STARRED IN THIS 
SUPER EARLY CINEMA HORROR CLASSIC! 1 OF THE LOBBY CARDS HAS AN IMAGE OF KONG 
BATTLING AIRPLANES ON EMPIRE STATE BUILDING AND THE OTHER LOBBY CARD HAS A 
SCENE FROM THEM IN JUNGLE WITH NATIVES.THESE 79 YEAR OLD LOBBY CARDS 

  but these are 1970s re-issue cards


  At 04:19 PM 6/24/2010, lovenoir2 wrote:

Unless this is the same seller.. there is competition for items from
south of the border..


http://cgi.ebay.com/KING-KONG-1933-2-ORIG-MEXICAN-LOBBY-CARDS-WOW-/160448472362?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b79652a
 

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Re: [MOPO] Some Competition-

[Phil Edwards]

Ah, well once in a while there's a real human being at the other end who is 
happy to know something.


The irony of these Mex KONG cards is that they might not only be re-issues, 
they might be reprint reissues...


Phil
- Original Message - 
From: "Greg" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Some Competition-



Jesus, Phil, you're such a no-it-all...
Trying to talk these willfully ignorant sellers is like trying to teach a 
pig to dance; it's frustrating for you and annoying to the pig. I used to 
be a conscientious Portal Publications Policeman ("Zip codes weren't 
instituted until the early 1960s!") but after being told to perform 
anatomically impossible acts upon myself a couple of times, I just quit 
fighting the tsunami of stupidity.

I do salute you for trying, Phil...
Greg Douglass
Phil Edwards wrote:
And this is the reply I recieved when I pointed out what they were. The 
usual literate response.

 *Dear cinemarts,

*NO SIR! THESE ARE 1933 NO DOUBT AT ALL .YOU NO NOTHING APPARENTLY..

- magic_carpet_deals

- Original Message -
*From:* Richard Halegua Comic Art <mailto:sa...@comic-art.com>
*To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
*Sent:* Friday, June 25, 2010 9:29 AM
*Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Some Competition-

*listing says:

YOU ARE BIDDING ON 2 VERY RARE 1933 ORIGINAL MEXICAN LOBBY CARDS
IN DECENT SHAPE.IMAGES ARE BRIGHT AND AMAZINGLY VIVID COLOR! FAYE
WRAY STARRED IN THIS SUPER EARLY CINEMA HORROR CLASSIC! 1 OF THE
LOBBY CARDS HAS AN IMAGE OF KONG BATTLING AIRPLANES ON EMPIRE
STATE BUILDING AND THE OTHER LOBBY CARD HAS A SCENE FROM THEM IN
JUNGLE WITH NATIVES.THESE 79 YEAR OLD LOBBY CARDS

*but these are 1970s re-issue cards


At 04:19 PM 6/24/2010, lovenoir2 wrote:

Unless this is the same seller.. there is competition for items from
south of the border..


http://cgi.ebay.com/KING-KONG-1933-2-ORIG-MEXICAN-LOBBY-CARDS-WOW-/160448472362?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b79652a

<http://cgi.ebay.com/KING-KONG-1933-2-ORIG-MEXICAN-LOBBY-CARDS-WOW-/160448472362?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255b79652a>


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[MOPO] Fw: King Kong's Inside Leg Measurement.....

[Phil Edwards]

He wrote me again, without prompting, so he's obviously losing the plot.

Dear cinemarts,

you are apparently uninformed! these are completly authentic and 1933! My 
father purchased these from a collector in 1949 when he was 12! so no need to 
bother me again..end of story!


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Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t

[Phil Edwards]

Interesting... this is exactly the way Belgian posters were considered in 
the 1970s in Europe. when they were 50 cents each and the good ones were 
$2 each.. and the really good ones were $3 each.


I'll happily pay $10 for a set of Mexican cards for EL VAMPIRO if they are 
all such junk, or for THE VAMPIRE'S COFFIN.


Like Belgian posters (back then, when they were sold off as waste paper by 
the ton to a couple of folks who could see the long term potential) , one of 
the biggest problems with Mexican cards is the sheer volume of what's in the 
marketplace and some major titles have proved popular enough for there 
to be reproductions over the last few years. So if you happen to like, say 
the TC Mexican card for THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, selling on eBay for 
$10, be warned...  it easily could be a repro.


Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "Franc" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t



Even in the 1990s, I knew they were drek. FRANC

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From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:19 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t


When I first got back into collecting in the early 1990s, there was some

sort of consideration for a nanosecond  that Mexican lobby cards were
going to be the Next Big Trend in our little hobby. Rick may have been
caught up in that moment. They ended up being the Beanie Babies of the
movie poster universe. I own a couple of Cabral cards, but for the most
part, the artwork is pretty ugly & amateurish. (In this man's opinion,
of course.)
As much as it pains me to do so, I  agree with Rich; these things are,
for the most part, doody ( "mierda", en Espanol.).
Greg Douglass
Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:

I'm curious-- why now, do you say these cards are nothing but sh*t?



*in the hierarchical structural population of movie posters with such
things as Universal Horror and classics at the top, Mexican lobby
cards are the detritus of the sewer

*
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Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t

[Phil Edwards]

There was a big boom in Polish posters among the cognescenti of the US/UK 
poster collecting world in the late 70s, especially when anything was difficult 
to get out of Eastern Bloc countries of the time.

My source then was an airline steward on trips from Poland. He made several 
trips and he stashed the cash of what he sold before deciding once and for all 
never to get the plane "home".

I lost track of the number of Polish posters I got through back then - and for 
those times, they were not cheap by other country standards.

They were - and remain - a damn sight more interesting than many other posters 
for films from and before the 70s out of the US or UK.

All poster dealers and serious collectors should have  a copy of the book of 
Polish posters for Western movies - as in westerns as a genre. Great stuff.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Linkenback 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t


  And hopefully by the time those five years happened, you wisely invested that 
money in inventory you turned over many times - giving you a much greater 
return than sitting on stale inventory and waiting for the market to catch up 
to your vision would have done.




  -- Sent from my Palm Pre


--
  On Jun 28, 2010 7:17 PM, Kirby McDaniel  wrote: 

  I bought a selection of great Polish posters in 1990 including at least four 
or five that have sold for multi-thousand 
  dollar prices. I could not GIVE them away. Seriously. Nobody wanted them and 
I sold almost all of them in a lot 
  to a dealer in Chicago. He flew to Austin to gather them up. In three to five 
years they were doing well. When I saw 
  the swastika CABARET and MOULIN ROUGE sell for big money, I knew I had jumped 
the gun. 

  Kirby 


  On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Richard Evans wrote: 

  > Strangely, (or interestingly, perhaps) the higher the quality of a dealer's 
merchandise, the less prejudiced they seem to be against Mexican paper. 
  > I'm waiting for Todd to post, telling how he absolutely lurves it. 
  > 
  > On 28 Jun 2010, at 18:59, Kirby McDaniel wrote: 
  > 
  >> Thanks, Phil. 
  >> 
  >> Exactly. I've seen other types of posters go from no interest to some 
interest. 
  >> Believe it or not I remember when BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S was not 
particularly collected. 
  >> Maybe Mexican lobby cards will never hit the Big Time of Film Posters. But 
don't 
  >> be surprised if people start buying them because the collecting community 
is changing their mind(s) all the 
  >> time. I've seen it again and again. And I don't even own 10 of them, so I 
don't have a dog in this hunt. 
  >> 
  >> Kirby 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Phil Edwards wrote: 
  >> 
  >>> Interesting... this is exactly the way Belgian posters were considered in 
the 1970s in Europe. when they were 50 cents each and the good ones were $2 
each.. and the really good ones were $3 each. 
  >>> 
  >>> I'll happily pay $10 for a set of Mexican cards for EL VAMPIRO if they 
are all such junk, or for THE VAMPIRE'S COFFIN. 
  >>> 
  >>> Like Belgian posters (back then, when they were sold off as waste paper 
by the ton to a couple of folks who could see the long term potential) , one of 
the biggest problems with Mexican cards is the sheer volume of what's in the 
marketplace and some major titles have proved popular enough for there to 
be reproductions over the last few years. So if you happen to like, say the TC 
Mexican card for THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, selling on eBay for $10, be 
warned... it easily could be a repro. 
  >>> 
  >>> Phil 
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> - Original Message - From: "Franc"  
  >>> To:  
  >>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:48 AM 
  >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t 
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>>> Even in the 1990s, I knew they were drek. FRANC 
  >>>> 
  >>>> -Original Message- 
  >>>> From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Greg 
  >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:19 PM 
  >>>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  >>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t 
  >>>> 
  >>>> 
  >>>> When I first got back into collecting in the early 1990s, there was some 
  >>>> 
  >>>> sort of consideration for a nanosecond that Mexican lobby cards were 
  >>>> going to be the Next Big Tre

Re: [MOPO] Polish THE RAVEN and other Polish posters

[Phil Edwards]

One of my favourite Polish posters! It was one of the last from my first 
"collection" that I let go.

Since then, "the private collection" has been in a a contsnat state of flux and 
movement, as it is with most dealers, I suspect.
A couple of years back when we bought 400 Polish posters, Mila and I had a 
great couple of days sorting and photographing them.
Quite mind-bending. A few have made it to the website, a few were sold 
privately, but the majority of them are in "the private collection" for the 
time being. Most are from the 60s/70s.

Collectors of Polish posters should be aware, that apart from Krysz's warning 
about inkjet fakes, there are also Polish posters out that there are designed 
for commercial (if unlicensed) sale, and are not legit theatrical exhibition 
posters at all but are posters "inspired by the film" created anew. While some 
of these are interesting and ape the style of Polish posters as we think of 
them generally, they really come under the heading of "fan art"... create 
specifically to sell and have nothing to do with film exhibition at all.

Phil
  ----- Original Message - 
  From: Steven Yafet 
  To: Phil Edwards 
  Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t


  I agree with Phil.  My Polish poster from AIP's THE RAVEN has been framed and 
displayed for many years.

  Nathalie


  On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Phil Edwards  wrote:

There was a big boom in Polish posters among the cognescenti of the US/UK 
poster collecting world in the late 70s, especially when anything was difficult 
to get out of Eastern Bloc countries of the time.

My source then was an airline steward on trips from Poland. He made several 
trips and he stashed the cash of what he sold before deciding once and for all 
never to get the plane "home".

I lost track of the number of Polish posters I got through back then - and 
for those times, they were not cheap by other country standards.

They were - and remain - a damn sight more interesting than many other 
posters for films from and before the 70s out of the US or UK.

All poster dealers and serious collectors should have  a copy of the book 
of Polish posters for Western movies - as in westerns as a genre. Great stuff.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Linkenback 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Does anybody really want this Mexican shi**t


  And hopefully by the time those five years happened, you wisely invested 
that money in inventory you turned over many times - giving you a much greater 
return than sitting on stale inventory and waiting for the market to catch up 
to your vision would have done.




  -- Sent from my Palm Pre


--
  On Jun 28, 2010 7:17 PM, Kirby McDaniel  wrote: 

  I bought a selection of great Polish posters in 1990 including at least 
four or five that have sold for multi-thousand 
  dollar prices. I could not GIVE them away. Seriously. Nobody wanted them 
and I sold almost all of them in a lot 
  to a dealer in Chicago. He flew to Austin to gather them up. In three to 
five years they were doing well. When I saw 
  the swastika CABARET and MOULIN ROUGE sell for big money, I knew I had 
jumped the gun. 

  Kirby 


  On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Richard Evans wrote: 

  > Strangely, (or interestingly, perhaps) the higher the quality of a 
dealer's merchandise, the less prejudiced they seem to be against Mexican 
paper. 
  > I'm waiting for Todd to post, telling how he absolutely lurves it. 
  > 
  > On 28 Jun 2010, at 18:59, Kirby McDaniel wrote: 
  > 
  >> Thanks, Phil. 
  >> 
  >> Exactly. I've seen other types of posters go from no interest to some 
interest. 
  >> Believe it or not I remember when BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S was not 
particularly collected. 
  >> Maybe Mexican lobby cards will never hit the Big Time of Film Posters. 
But don't 
  >> be surprised if people start buying them because the collecting 
community is changing their mind(s) all the 
  >> time. I've seen it again and again. And I don't even own 10 of them, 
so I don't have a dog in this hunt. 
  >> 
  >> Kirby 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Phil Edwards wrote: 
  >> 
  >>> Interesting... this is exactly the way Belgian posters were 
considered in the 1970s in Europe. when they were 50 cents each and the 
good ones were $2 each.. and the really good ones were $3 each. 
  >>> 
  >>> 

Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage

[Phil Edwards]

I would never bid on a slabbed anything.
The reasons are painfully obvious, aren't they?
Phil E.

  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:03 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage


  I have been browsing through the latest Heritage catalogue and once again it 
is very impressive. One thing that will be of interest to many is that amount 
of "slabbed" lobby cards that appear in this auction. A great many look to be 
sealed in some sort of plastic with a grading by CGC whoever they may be.

  I have never been too keen on the idea of slabbed lobby cards and wonder what 
you guys think about them. My concerns are:

a.. Slabbing and grading the cards would add to the overall cost of the 
cards and surely it would be hardly worthwhile on lobby cards of medium value - 
say $200.00 
b.. What materials are used when slabbing the cards? Is the plastic and 
materials used to slab the card acid free, uv protected, etc? 
c.. It looks as though the plastic may be flexible ie it could be bent or 
creased. Does slabbing protect the card from any damage? 
d.. How does slabbing affect framing? 
e.. What happens if sunlight affects the card? 
f.. If damage occurrs whilst the card is slabbed can the card be regraded? 
g.. How will this "trend" affect lobby cards that have not been slabbed? 
h.. Will the value of lobby cards be increased or decreased by slabbing? I 
know that some collectors will prefer to have the card in its original state 
and will avoid purchasing cards that have been slabbed. No doubt, there will be 
others who will like the idea.

  Regards
  John


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Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage

[Phil Edwards]

Thanks for writing just about what I was thinking, Bruce.

I see no one has answered the question you asked about who owns, or has an 
interest in CGC.

And no one has yet answered John Reid's question about the cost of slabbing a 
single lobby card. Is it a flat fee or a percentage of the
"value" of the grading, or the perceived value of the card? If the latter, how 
is the value arrived at?

What guarantee does one have that any of the CGC graders do not have a vested 
interest, even if removed, from how a card is graded? Can we see a list of 
names of the CGC graders who graded the cards for the Heritage auction? How 
have they been fully informed of the Universal fakes?
Phil E.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage


  I too hate slabbing, especially on comic books where it makes them 
unreadable. Why not start slabbing particularly fine examples of food, so it 
will become un-eatable?

  But here is how it will likely go:

  An unnamed auction house or two will start auctioning more and more of these 
monstrosities. They will auction for two to ten times the regular prices (we 
will never see the high bidders, so we won't know if the results are real, or 
if it is a house bidder "buying" from themselves).

  But people will want in on this "free money". and they will start submitting 
their own lobbies to be slabbed, and for a while they will get great results, 
and that will encourage them to slab lots more, and others will start doing the 
same.

  Then an unnamed dealer will have an "all-slabbed" auction on eBay, and the 
results will be amazing, and everyone will start to sing the praises of 
slabbing (except for a few old fogies like me, Phil Edwards, Rich Halegua, and 
others) and we will quit selling lobbies altogether, and they will be purchased 
by the same investors who have overrun other hobbies, and before too much 
longer a lot of the new "collectors" will say, "I only buy slabbed lobbies, 
because I KNOW what I am getting", as if buying an item that some paid employee 
looked at for a minute is more trustworthy than buying an item from a dealer 
who has collected and bought and sold lobbies for 20 or 30 years!

  At least that's how it played out in comic books, baseball cards, and coins.

  Some questions:

  1) WHO owns the grading service who slabs these (and if a major auction owns 
even a small percentage of them, then isn't that a massive conflict of 
interest)?
  2) Every top dealer (except for one) has admitted they would have been fooled 
by the Haggard fakes, and in fact most were, and a leading restorer was fooled 
by a recreation of an ultra-expensive one-sheet. Isn't that proof that the last 
thing we need is some new people being paid to authenticate and grade lobby 
cards?
  3) In other hobbies (comic books, baseball cards, and coins), slabbing has 
siphoned millions of dollars out of collector's hands, and has driven out lots 
of the collectors who have a love of the items, and brought in a lot of 
"investor" types, and has created a "bubble" in prices not unlike that seen in 
the stock market or real estate markets. Is that what we want for our hobby?

  Bruce


  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Phil Edwards  wrote:

I would never bid on a slabbed anything.
The reasons are painfully obvious, aren't they?
Phil E.

  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:03 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage


  I have been browsing through the latest Heritage catalogue and once again 
it is very impressive. One thing that will be of interest to many is that 
amount of "slabbed" lobby cards that appear in this auction. A great many look 
to be sealed in some sort of plastic with a grading by CGC whoever they may be.

  I have never been too keen on the idea of slabbed lobby cards and wonder 
what you guys think about them. My concerns are:

a.. Slabbing and grading the cards would add to the overall cost of the 
cards and surely it would be hardly worthwhile on lobby cards of medium value - 
say $200.00 
b.. What materials are used when slabbing the cards? Is the plastic and 
materials used to slab the card acid free, uv protected, etc? 
c.. It looks as though the plastic may be flexible ie it could be bent 
or creased. Does slabbing protect the card from any damage? 
d.. How does slabbing affect framing? 
e.. What happens if sunlight affects the card? 
f.. If damage occurrs whilst the card is slabbed can the card be 
regraded? 
g.. How will this "trend" affect lobby cards that have not be

Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards GREY I'M TRULY THROWN BY THIS

[Phil Edwards]

 whatever the hell that means.


  . okay i feel better now,
  freeman fisher







  On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:


Dave

It is no coincidence that the few who love the slabbing idea are those who 
SELL expensive lobby cards. They WANT them reduced to "simple commodities". 

Find any collectors who are not also dealers like this.

Bruce

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Dave Rosen  wrote:
Richard, I think you've hit the nail on the head: Slabbing reduces lobby 
cards to simple commodities and nothing else.
 
The majority of collectors (new or old) collect movie paper because they 
love film, vintage graphics, certain genres and/or stars. It's a very personal 
passion.
 
Slabbed lobbies will appeal to people who just love money and are buying as 
an "investment." It's cold-blooded and it takes the heart out of the hobby...
 
Dave
 
- Original Message -
From: Richard Evans
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage

We've had someone with plenty of experience of handling movie paper, but 
with eyes that couldn't see, as well as other issues.
Now we have people with eyes that presumably see, albeit in a completely 
different area of collecting and with presumably very littleexperience of 
handling movie paper.
Hardly ideal.
Comic book experts authenticating movie paper, and the last thing you'd 
want is anything encapsulated to prevent it being properly examined.

I think the argument that you could always remove from the slab to display 
disingenuous.
The whole purpose of it is to guarantee the state the card is in, and 
ensure that it remains in that state so it's a reliable commodity.

Can see an argument for this with high end cards bought for investment, but 
only if the authentication is of the absolute highest standard.
(But, perhaps those are too uncommon to create the desired market?)
It seems the ideal system to attract people who have the cash but don't 
care enough to educate themselves, or involve themselves with the hobby.
Movie paper as a cold investment, tucked away for purely financial 
appreciation doesn't seem like a good way forward to me.


On 2 Jul 2010, at 00:47, Phil Edwards wrote:


  Thanks for writing just about what I was thinking, Bruce.
   
  I see no one has answered the question you asked about who owns, or has 
an interest in CGC.
   
  And no one has yet answered John Reid's question about the cost of 
slabbing a single lobby card. Is it a flat fee or a percentage of the
  "value" of the grading, or the perceived value of the card? If the 
latter, how is the value arrived at?
   
  What guarantee does one have that any of the CGC graders do not have a 
vested interest, even if removed, from how a card is graded? Can we see a list 
of names of the CGC graders who graded the cards for the Heritage auction? How 
have they been fully informed of the Universal fakes?
  Phil E.
   
  - Original Message -
  From: Bruce Hershenson
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage

  I too hate slabbing, especially on comic books where it makes them 
unreadable. Why not start slabbing particularly fine examples of food, so it 
will become un-eatable?

  But here is how it will likely go:

  An unnamed auction house or two will start auctioning more and more of 
these monstrosities. They will auction for two to ten times the regular prices 
(we will never see the high bidders, so we won't know if the results are real, 
or if it is a house bidder "buying" from themselves).

  But people will want in on this "free money". and they will start 
submitting their own lobbies to be slabbed, and for a while they will get great 
results, and that will encourage them to slab lots more, and others will start 
doing the same.

  Then an unnamed dealer will have an "all-slabbed" auction on eBay, and 
the results will be amazing, and everyone will start to sing the praises of 
slabbing (except for a few old fogies like me, Phil Edwards, Rich Halegua, and 
others) and we will quit selling lobbies altogether, and they will be purchased 
by the same investors who have overrun other hobbies, and before too much 
longer a lot of the new "collectors" will say, "I only buy slabbed lobbies, 
because I KNOW what I am getting", as if buying an item that some paid employee 
looked at for a minute is more trustworthy than buying an item from a dealer 
who has collected and bought and sold lobbies for 20 or 30 years!

  At least that's how it played out in com

Re: [MOPO] CGC Grading question

[Phil Edwards]

And there I was thinking that you could get any better than Stone Mint.
25 levels. one for every pinhole. .5 of a level for a pinhole that has 
successfully had its pushed back paper finessed into an almost pinhole.


Yet again, I am reminded of the Mark Twain quote..., "A specialist is just some 
damn fool from outta town".

I rather like Dale Dilts's comment that basically said people want to pay to be 
told something is okay rather than learn about the "hobby"
they are supposed to be so interested in.

If everyone (well, just about everyone, including some real pros) were fooled 
by the Universal fakes, and anything like these were ever improved upon and 
slabbed and some poor sod buys one and discovers it's a fake, where does 
the onus lie (or is that lay, I can never get that right).

Wait, don't auction houses have a standard caveat emptor? So they are covered. 
What if the specialist who gave the card the Gem Mint grading is no longer with 
the grading company, and really was just some damn fool from outta town?

And Ted, seasoned pros don't think very much about this at all... i.e. the 
falling value in star collectability. It's a fact of life. Some might get a 
nostalgia hike along the way but I think I had it brought home to me what 
"modern collectors" are all about. I said to one avid poster collector that day 
Marlon Brando died... Gee, hard to believe Marlon Brando's dead and they 
just looked at me. Did not have a clue who Brando was.

Having said that, the world economy is screwed, and Dave Lieberman aside, all 
dealers worldwide are seeing a shrinkage in what people used to pay for stuff.

As for Chan's Rita card I long ago realised that with eBay if you set an 
opening bid at 99 cents, $9.99 or $999.99 or whatever, that what you are saying 
is that that amount is what you will be able to live with if there is one 
bidder and that's what you get. I'm sure lots of us know people who thought 
they could "do eBay" as efficiently as Bruce did in his prime when on eBay, and 
several other sellers who were onselling consignments and therefor did not have 
an investment in what they were selling, and ended up losing significantly 
because they had either overpaid for their items to start with, or thought that 
they would automatically get a run of bids.

eBay hasn't been like that for a long time just like at the MOPO posts from 
sellers say... Hey folks take a look at all my stuff that doesn't have  a bid 
yet. 

I had an email from eBay this week saying I could have 2 weeks free auction 
style listings starting at any price and up to 100 items, just had to pay the 
FVFs. I'm sure all you eBay sellers did. It's their dead time of year. They 
know they are on the nose, and more to the point, they know the economy is 
REALLY on the nose with more eau de ass to come.

Phil E.


  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 6:23 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] CGC Grading question


  I find it a little strange that CGC is grading stills with only four 
categories:

  Excellent - Very Fine - Fine - Good

  but Lobby cards are grading on a much more detailed number of categories with 
25 levels ranging from 0.5 (Fair) - 10 (Gem Mint)

  Why is there a different grading system for stills and lobby cards?


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Re: [MOPO] Just when I thought the "suits" at eBay couldn't get any more stupid! This is their lamest move yet

[Phil Edwards]

How utterly bizarre, for any other organisation, but not for eBay.
So presuming you had paid for it, this is some automated system that puts the 
onus on the seller
to make sure eBay "knows" the item has been paid for or if you haven't paid for 
it yet (i.e. in the blink of an eye)
eBay are taking measures against you as a buyer?

It's right up there with their stupid logic about shipping costs, delivery 
times etc.

It all rather smells like ebay might be in more trouble than anyone realises.

Offering 2 weeks of free auction style listings, at an earlier time in their 
history, might have indicated they were trialing the very thing that seemed 
obvious when so many sellers left because of their high listings fees and 
increasing FVFs and attempt to woo both sellers and buyers back on a regular 
basis. But no, it's just another desperate move from a company that lost the 
plot and the basic rule of any good business - customer service.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:10 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] Just when I thought the "suits" at eBay couldn't get any more 
stupid! This is their lamest move yet


  Just when I thought the "suits" at eBay couldn't get any more stupid! I just 
got an e-mail from eBay telling me they "opened an unpaid item case" for an 
item I bought, NOT because the seller filed it, but because "the seller either 
hasn't recorded your payment or didn't receive it yet.'!

  OH MY GOD! This is a sure way to get buyers mad, and to leave bad ratings, 
which makes eBay a pile of money!
  Bruce


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Re: [MOPO] CGC Grading question

[Phil Edwards]

I prefer After Dinner Mint, myself.

Interesting how many professional dealers of many years standing think this is 
the biggest wank of all time in the business.

Phil E.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kenwick Cook 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] CGC Grading question


  Double-Mint







  -Original Message-
  From: Steven Yafet 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 8:22 pm
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] CGC Grading question


  Whatever happened to dead mint?

  Nathalie




  On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:23 AM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
 wrote:

I find it a little strange that CGC is grading stills with only four 
categories:

Excellent - Very Fine - Fine - Good

but Lobby cards are grading on a much more detailed number of categories 
with 25 levels ranging from 0.5 (Fair) - 10 (Gem Mint)

Why is there a different grading system for stills and lobby cards?


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Re: [MOPO] MoPo subscibers

[Phil Edwards]

I know 4 people who read MOPO but would never post. And I mean never. If you 
extrapolate something the same for all of us who do post, that's pretty much 
the membership.

If you deduct all the FS and FA posts, including the ones that don't have FS/FA 
but really are more like FU I don't need no rules, then the number of real 
posts is far, far less.

If you deduct all the follow-on posts that say, 'I agree with Bruce, Kirby, 
Rich, et al" as a response and without adding any other comment to the 
discussion at hand, then the number of real posts that are about "something", 
then you lose even more.

This has been a post about nothing, related to something.

Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] MoPo subscibers


  John

  Whenever this comes up Scot states that there are actually 500 members, but 
that the number noted when we send e-mails is much lower, for some reason I am 
sure he can easily explain.

  Still, whether it be 300 or 500, your point is quite valid. I wonder what the 
answer is?

  Bruce


  On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:44 AM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
 wrote:

An earlier post mentioned that MoPo has approx 300 subscribers. That seems 
to me to be an extraordinarily small number considering that MoPo has been 
around for so many years. I think that MoPo is a wonderful source of 
information and discussion for collectors of movie posters and I would have 
thought that it would attract more participants. 

Despite all of the doom and gloom, the fact is that there are a huge number 
of collectors of movie memorabilia worldwide. Is there a reason why the 
subscribers list seems to remain fairly static and remain so relatively small?


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Re: [MOPO] ROPE half-sheet - hairy arm style

[Phil Edwards]

The slabbed version would be neat!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Rosen 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:17 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] ROPE half-sheet - hairy arm style


  
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hitchcocks-Remarkable-1948-Original-ROPE-Movie-Poster-/120595825779?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c14124473

  Belongs in the "How Not to Take an Auction Picture" Hall of Fame...

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Re: [MOPO] Expanding hobby?

[Phil Edwards]

It's the same in Australia, where Murdoch's Foxtel has the cable monopoly.
TCM here is showing the same films it did when cable first started in Australia 
about 15 years ago.

All new films are broadcast in 16.9 whether they were in 2.35/2.40 in theatres. 
The one exception is World Movies, although the last time I was visiting 
someone with Foxtel, even the couple of films on WM that were originally 2.35 
were in 16.9 and it looks terrible.

Foxtel in Australia is expensive and basically designed for people interested 
in sport and watching repeats of repeats. PPV "new" movies (at AU$6.95 a pop) 
are almost all available as weekly rental DVDs at under a buck.


Everyone is so dumbed down they don't even know what they are missing anymore 
in cinema.

Phil E.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Todd Feiertag 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Expanding hobby?


  My current cable package has several hundred channels and the opportunity to 
see any of the previously mentioned films is now negligible by comparison.
   
  And it's pretty amazing, that with all those channels, there is nothing good 
to watch!
   

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  Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:44:28 -0700
  From: mro...@earthlink.net
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Expanding hobby?
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU


  I think that the general public knows that there are people who collect 
posters and that some of them are very valuable. If the number of people in the 
hobby were to double or to decrease by 50% we would all notice it. However, 
comparing our hobby to all the other mainstream collectable hobbies from a 
"market share" standpoint we would still be  part of the 1% or less group 
either way. An analysis of how young people feel about classic posters or films 
difficult. It is hard to know how people would react if the potential for 
exposure to those films or posters was greater.

  When I was a child in 1960 there were constant broadcasts of Frankenstein; 
King Kong, Roy Rogers and King of the Rocketmen, etc.  This was in an 
environment of 5 TV stations. My current cable package has several hundred 
channels and the opportunity to see any of the previously mentioned films is 
now negligible by comparison. 
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Rosen 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Expanding hobby?


Movie poster collectors are a small minority of the population, Rich.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Expanding hobby?


  yes Dave, but they are a small minority of the population
  that is the problem



  At 07:14 PM 7/21/2010, Dave Rosen wrote:

My daughter is 25 years old, works for a publisher of graphic novels 
and helps run an art gallery. We talk about classic films all the time. The 
last time we chatted she told me how much she enjoyed watching Bus Stop. She's 
not put off if a movie is 50 years old and/or shot in black and white. She also 
enjoys 70s grindhouse fare as do many of her friends. Just a couple of weeks 
ago a small cinema opened in Montreal specializing in vintage exploitation, 
grindhouse and arthouse films.
 
I know she's not your typical 20-something but the way some of you 
generalize about her generation you'd think they were all know-nothings who are 
only waiting for the next Iron Man movie to come out.
 
I have the feeling many of you are unaware that there is a significant 
number of young people who are knowledgeable and, yes, DO care about the 
history of popular culture. Modern information technology has made older films 
more accessible than ever.
 
Furthermore, in Montreal we are currently in the middle of a festival, 
Fantasia, that specializes in showing a wide variety of genre films. The fest, 
which is internationally renowned, attracts thousands of people to soldout 
shows and grows by leaps and bounds every year, just honored Ken Russell and 
will be ending next week with a showing of the recently restored version of 
Metropolis with music accompaniment by a full symphony orchestra.
 
Maybe it's because I'm somewhat tied in to the arts scene in Montreal 
(which I have to believe is somewhat similar to arts scenes in other major 
North American cities), but I know a LOT of young people who care about this 
stuff. Maybe in mainstream America that's not the case but on the other hand, 
mainstream America thinks Justin Bieber (a Canadian, I'm embarrassed to say) is 
a great talent.
 
I think your doom and gloom is misplaced because most of you, from what 
I have gleaned, are not aware of these young people, some of whom will be the 
col

Re: [MOPO] Slabbing question - stills

[Phil Edwards]

There were some fantastic quality dupe stills (and not official studio 
restrikes) produced throughout the 70s.These were available through most of the 
major American dealers and movie memorabilia stores who sold them as that - 
dupe stills.

And then there were the back room boys who did great copy stills, including 
using some simple tricks for false ageing, and sold them as "originals". 

That's a lot (as in many thousands) of non-original studio/distributor still 
out there in collecting land. I'm kind of curious to know what expertise those 
that slab stills have in defining exactly what they are looking at and 
grading.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Linkenback 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbing question


  With all the stills you are selling this week Bruce, one would think you 
would care what the difference is between original and vintage
  (though maybe not CGC's definition).

  I believe the answer to the question though is that Original relates to a 
still that dates from the time of the film's original release, while vintage 
means that perhaps they believe the still was struck later from the original 
negatives (like a 50s/60s still created for the original 1931 Frankenstein), 
and of course contemporary would refer to an even more modern striking of the 
image.


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From: Bruce Hershenson 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbing question


More importantly, does anyone care?


On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:36 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
 wrote:

  CGC are grading stills on two levels. The first is that the still is 
either Vintage, Original or Comtemporary. The second level is on condition with 
four categories. I just checked the website and they don't define Vintage, 
Original or Contemporary. Does anyone know what the difference is between 
Vintage and Original?







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Re: [MOPO] The Art of Being a Young Collector

[Phil Edwards]

I can't see it changing because I have lost my glasses.
Bugger!

Phil
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Art of Being a Young Collector


  Dave says:  "The hobby IS changing and IS expanding in ways that many older  
collectors and dealers simply can't see, with a growing cadre of younger, 
sophisticated collectors who exist outside the closed world of Mopo, MCW, 
Cinevent, Heritage, etc."

  Was eMoviePoster.com left off because it slipped your mind, or because you 
feel that we CAN see that the "hobby IS changing and IS expanding in ways that 
many older collectors and dealers simply can't see"

  Bruce



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Re: [MOPO] "Lawrence," BEFORE & AFTER - Why restorers remain vital to our hobby.

[Phil Edwards]

The poster restoration equivalent of keyhole surgery. Those posters are going 
to look great framed side be side!

Phil

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  From: David Kusumoto 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:53 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] "Lawrence," BEFORE & AFTER - Why restorers remain vital to 
our hobby.


  ** Several weeks ago, I posted images on MoPo of a squashed Lawrence of 
Arabia Oscars window card that a seller sent un-protected in a Priority Mail 
triangle box.  Shortly after that post, a MoPo member reached out to me, armed 
with confidence and loads of sage advice... 



  ** The person who "reached out" to me on MoPo was Carol Tincup of Orange, CA 
(714.289.8630).  Carol has been working with paper for more than 30 years.  I 
had never used her services before and I only chose to do so because after she 
saw images of my squashed Lawrence Oscars poster, she e-mailed me, offering 
non-invasive solutions I could try on my own.  As a result of this "outreach," 
I picked up the phone and said "no way am I going to do this by myself" - and I 
asked her to work on the poster above -- and then asked her about a second, way 
more valuable "Lawrence" roadshow camel-style WC (below) that I had just 
received that had been permanently dry mounted onto foam core (NOT spray 
mounted, which would have been an easier job); Carol was supremely-confident 
she could pry off the dry mount in pieces without tearing, curling or wrinkling 
the poster or scorching its colors - strengthening and minimizing the fold line 
with what an extremely thin application of some type of gluey substance on the 
back - before heat pressing the poster flat -- all without airbrushing and 
without linen- or paper-backing!  Until I spoke to her, I had NO intention of 
letting anyone TOUCH the poster.  I was intent on leaving the poster "as is."  
But her confidence was reassuring.  The "before" picture below has a yellowish 
cast because it was taken indoors under tungsten light.  The "after" picture 
was taken outdoors, under natural light on the floor of my covered patio.  Note 
the visible fold line in the "before" picture.  


  ** Note that Carol's work was labor intensive but minimally invasive, more 
like a remove-and-repair-and-clean job than a full restoration.  On the "camel" 
poster, note the back.  The fold line is still there, nothing is hidden.  But 
this poster is no longer weak along the fold line; the poster has the weight 
and feel of sturdy card stock from 1962 - without paper backing of any kind.  
The fold line on the front is now FLAT.  It disappears and re-appears amid the 
colors when you put your eyes within 2-3 inches of the poster, but at a normal 
viewing distance, it's gone.  Carol achieved the same results with my formerly 
squashed "Oscars" poster.  I am not kidding, you now have to LOOK HARD for the 
fold lines on both posters.  I cannot even feel them when I run my fingers over 
them.

  ** My point is the craftsmanship of restorers has wonderfully evolved from 
the "dipped in paint" days of the 70s, 80s and 90s.  While unrestored paper is 
always preferred, so long as the world's best museums continue to preserve 
paper that might otherwise turn to dust and lost forever -- there will always 
be a need for restoration / preservation craftsmen.  I used to be flatly told 
that removing dry mount from a poster was impossible.  (It might still be very 
risky for something like a one-sheet, I don't know.)  But this was the first 
time I have ever OK'd the removal of a poster that I believed was "permanently" 
dry-mounted to foam core.  I was extremely nervous about it.  Now that it's 
over, I'm obviously happy with the results and with the quality of Carol's work 
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Re: [MOPO] Tales Of Lost Treasure - You Got One?

[Phil Edwards]

Original rolled KING KONG insert 1977. Don't ask.
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Martin 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Tales Of Lost Treasure - You Got One?


  great story Ron
  -Tom

  Ron Moore wrote:

  The One That Got Away…


  August 1990-


 Ken Schacter and I were speeding East across Arizona as fast as we 
could. Our 1986 Ford Aerostar van was staying cooler than we were. I was born 
and raised in the heat of Texas and was used to the 100 + degree heat, but Ken 
was a Canadian and not used to the scorching air of the desert. The only songs 
on the radio (when we could get a station) were “golden oldies”. It appeared 
that Arizona hadn’t moved past 1959. 
 “If you can tell me who recorded this song, I’ll give you my Bride 
of Frankenstein insert,” Ken laughed.
 My knowledge of music was vastly inferior to my knowledge of film- 
but our impromptu trivia sessions helped pass the time.


  We had already spent a month in New Mexico scouring the state for 
posters. We checked every theatre from Truth or Consequences to Santa Fe. All 
we had to show for our work was a whole lot a nuthin’- zilch, and “Nada”. We 
had started the trip with a bankroll of $6,000 and now our pockets were about 
$3000 lighter. We had a couple of hundred bucks in quarters for the pay-phones 
and even those rolls were running low. We knew if we didn’t find something 
soon, our two month odyssey through the southwest was going to break us. New 
Mexico was a bust so we decided to move on to Arizona.


  The theory sounded good- “Let’s go look for posters where there 
aren’t many collectors, no sign of poster exchanges, not many antique shops and 
remote as it gets.” Where else but New Mexico and Arizona? The two states 
seemed to fit the bill. Only problem; it wasn’t exactly a target rich 
environment. During the 1930’s and 1940’s the two states combined only had 
around 193 theatres.  Most of those were in a few large cities and the rest had 
about a hundred miles between them.


  Our little excursion in the summer of 1990 occurred in the days 
before cell phones, GPS’s and laptop computers. We kept notes on the theatres 
we checked out on a legal notepad. We started Arizona in the southern part of 
the state, heading westbound on I-10 and I-8 and gradually worked our way north 
to I-40. Along the way we had stopped in numerous towns and kept hearing the 
same response-
 “Yeah, some feller come through here a few years ago and picked up 
all the posters.”
 “Did he say where he was going?”
 “Nope.”
 “How about what he was planning on doing with them.”
 “Nope.”
 “Does anyone else around here know where we could find him?”
 “Nope.”
  The Gary Cooper impressions in every city were getting old until Ken 
and I hit “paydirt” in Flagstaff. The manager of the Orpheum Theatre slipped us 
a business card and stated that the guy that had picked up all of their posters 
was a theatre owner himself. Apparently, the fellow and his brother had gone 
all over Arizona picking up the posters and had taken them back to their 
theatre in Snowflake.


  118 Miles to Success, Victory and unknown Poster Treasures. Ken and I 
both had visions of grandeur. At my driving speed that was two hours at the 
most. It was already 8:00 pm but I figured we could easily make the city by 
10:00. Desperation pushed the peddle of the van past 80. We careened off the 
Insterstate at Holbrook and screamed south towards Snowflake. By the time we 
pulled into the city and made our way to the town square, it was already dark. 
Sure enough, there was the theatre on the business card- The Snowflake Theatre.


  And as luck would have it, there was a payphone in front of the 
theatre. I quickly looked at the owners phone number on his business card and 
dropped a quarter into the phone. He picked up after a couple of rings.
 “Hello?”
 “I’m sorry to disturb you at this hour, but I just drove into 
Snowflake and wanted to call you as soon as I could. I’m a collector of old 
movie posters and understand that you might have picked up some posters around 
the state.” I could feel my heart hammering waiting for the man’s response.
 “Yes. My brother and I have picked up several thousand of them 
over the years.”
  My mind reeled at that as I asked him more about the posters. I could 
see Ken waiting anxiously for the result of my question and I gave him a thumbs 
up. Then I returned to the conversation, “Really? Several thousand?”
 “Oh yes. We took them all back to our theatre in Snowflake. Put 
them in the basement. But the theatre’s gone now.”
 I looked behind me at the theatre in the darkness. “The Snowflake 
Theatre?” I asked?
 “Y

Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost negatives claim

[Phil Edwards]

It's a fascinating story. It also made me wonder whatever happened to all the 
litho plates for lobby cards.

As the story was spun at the time by whoever was behind it, the infamous hairy 
belt STAR WARS one sheet was "made from the original plates" therefor 
making them "er, original".

Of course, unlike the Ansel Adams story, it's as much about art as commerce.

I can imagine the publishing trust being pissed off at them actually turning 
out to be able to be proven really Adams's work, because potentially and in 
perpetuity whoever controls these negatives is going to be making income that 
the trust really might think should be theirs.

I wonder if this will be the first time that an auction house - if indeed 
that's where they end up - will use a system similar to what they do for fine 
art, and they will be credited to A. Adams (in this case the A could stand for 
Anybody).

Highly recommended to anybody interested in auctions is John Baxter's book, 
BIDDING. A page-turner of a novel, but with some very accurate and 
well-researched insight into the major auction houses and how they worked.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 6:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost 
negatives claim


  Of course Adams was not the only one taking images at the time.  But the negs 
would have to conform
  in general ways to Adams' way of working, the formats he used etc. to even be 
plausible.  I think Adams worked with large format -- what type particularly? 
etc etc.  I'm not saying it is legit - I certainly don't know.   But I feel 
sure that real, objective scrutiny when applied can get much
  closer to the truth.  To toss out the claims because the head honcho of an 
estate said so may be specious.  Who knows why the owner had them 10 years 
before addressing this.  We'd have to know the facts on that.


  K.


  On Jul 28, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:


But the key issue is that this guy just now got huge publicity that was 
presented as if these were just found, and now it is revealed that he has had 
them for years and no one believes what he wants to believe.

Obviously Adams was not the only one taking images at that time. Are images 
by ANYONE else worth anything remotely like those by Adams.

Of course it could turn out they are really by Adams, but its been years 
and he has not yet convinced anyone, except of course the guy who "appraised" 
them for $200 million (and who no doubt will profit if he can convince a buyer 
they are real).

Bruce


On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Kirby McDaniel  wrote:

  Exactly, Colin.  It cannot be put better.  If I were Turnage, and without 
any conclusive evidence, I would cringe to see a statement like that in print.  
It's silly. How will he look if the negs turn out to
  be real.  Crazier things have happened.



  Kirby




  On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Colin Hunter wrote:


That's a self-defeating analogy to make regarding the negatives being 
next to worthless because they are like a musical score and all the value is in 
their interpretation.  If that was true then an original score in Mozart's hand 
would also be worthless. I don't know if Turnage is right or wrong regarding 
the provenance of the negatives but his logic regarding their potential value 
is clearly off.


Colin Hunter



On WednesdayJul 28, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Kirby McDaniel wrote:


  This is interesting, of course, but inconclusive.  One doesn't know 
the personalities involved.  Sometimes (not saying this is the case here) 
estate owners do not want to admit any other owners, no
  matter what.  The stories about Warhol works are legion.


  But Turnage is quite correct about the interpretive nature of Adams' 
printing.  Much of the value
  is there.  But to label the negatives "next to worthless", if they 
are Adams negatives, is laughable.


  I'm sure there are methods for really getting at the truth of this -- 
but that may involve cooperation
  between the parties.  It doesn't sound like there's been much so far.


  Kirby


  On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:


Adams heirs skeptical about lost negatives claim
http://tinyurl.com/2b4qmrm

I love this part:

"It's an unfortunate fraud," said Bill Turnage, managing director 
of the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust. "It's very distressing."

Turnage said he's consulting lawyers about possibly suing Norsigian 
for using a copyrighted name for commercial purposes. He described Norsigian as 
on an "obsessive quest." "We've been dealing with him for a decade," he said. 
"I can't tell you how many times he's called me."

AND THIS:

Beverly Hills art appraiser David W. S

Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost negatives claim

[Phil Edwards]

Completely agree, Rich. The American "dealer" who arrived in Australia with 
these things had a sales pitch to dealers to buy these things wholesale, and 
cheap. I wasn't interested for the obvious reason that they were simply not 
original and no amount of BS would convince me otherwise. One of life's 
irritations is that I cannot remember the name of this guy, and we only had two 
telephone conversations. The second a little heated because by this time it had 
really sunk in what he was trying to perpetrate.

Other dealers here did buy them and sold them as originals for around 
$200-$300AUD and comic/SF shops kept on selling them for years because they 
used to order them at the same time and from the same wholesalers who they 
purchased their advance order imports and fantasy/SF media from. And it was no 
skinny-arse cheap backdoor outfit. It was the major wholesalers at the time.

I bought out a couple of indie distributors here over the last few years when 
they were changing hands or closing up shop, and among all the stuff were a 
couple of sets of films for posters. When I was working for  Palace in Sydney 
in the 1980s and we did the design and printing of posters out of Sydney, once 
the poster run was done the films came back to my office for shipping back to 
head office in Melbourne for filing.

Phil
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  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: Phil Edwards ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost 
negatives claim


As the story was spun at the time by whoever was behind it, the infamous 
hairy belt STAR WARS one sheet was "made from the original plates" therefor 
making them "er, original".

  I always wonder what people mean, including my friend Dave, when they refer 
to this statement

  do they mean to imply that the copper plates were - unlike any other title 
and unlike any other printing business operation - kept in storage for later 
use?

  well there are problems with this belief

  1) plates like those were routinely destroyed for the metal to be recycled 
for other projects, plus getting such plates made in most cases entails a 
contract (or purchase order) whereby there is a credit for returning the plates 
that is usually a little on the high side

  2) plates wear down during use. The first poster printed has greater detail 
than the last poster printed. for this reason, printers do not see a use in 
"old plates" seeing as new plates can be easily made from the "films"

  3) and here is the rub - what printers would keep would be the "films" aka 
the color separations, because these are what is needed to make new plates, and 
they fit inside a simple folder in a filing cabinet along with thousands of 
others, whereas to keep the plates would require a warehouse storage solely for 
keeping printing plates


  my opinion and said from someone with a detailed knowledge and experience in 
the printing field:

  I think that most bootlegs are copies made from a new set of plates made from 
the original films, or high quality reproductions made from the posters

  In the case of the hairy belt poster, I think they had access to the films, a 
hair got on the films during the process from film to plate
  in the case of the Style-C, I think that's a copy, which is why the printing 
quality is not nearly as good as an original

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Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost negatives claim

[Phil Edwards]

Only those behind it would really know how many times it was re-run.
I know several thousand were sold in Australia alone.

One "theory" has it that the hair was deliberate (a bit like that famous Warner 
Bros cartoon with the hair in the gate) so that those behind it woulld always 
have an identifier if they were offered them back later.

All up, I suspect that are tens of thousands of them out there.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost 
negatives claim


  "In the case of the hairy belt poster, I think they had access to the films, 
a hair got on the films during the process from film to plate"

  If this happened and they still had the films could they do another print run 
without the "hairy belt" making the reprinted posters virtually the same as the 
originals?





- Original Message - 
From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] The plot thickens! Adams heirs skeptical about lost 
negatives claim


  As the story was spun at the time by whoever was behind it, the infamous 
hairy belt STAR WARS one sheet was "made from the original plates" therefor 
making them "er, original".

I always wonder what people mean, including my friend Dave, when they refer 
to this statement

do they mean to imply that the copper plates were - unlike any other title 
and unlike any other printing business operation - kept in storage for later 
use?

well there are problems with this belief

1) plates like those were routinely destroyed for the metal to be recycled 
for other projects, plus getting such plates made in most cases entails a 
contract (or purchase order) whereby there is a credit for returning the plates 
that is usually a little on the high side

2) plates wear down during use. The first poster printed has greater detail 
than the last poster printed. for this reason, printers do not see a use in 
"old plates" seeing as new plates can be easily made from the "films"

3) and here is the rub - what printers would keep would be the "films" aka 
the color separations, because these are what is needed to make new plates, and 
they fit inside a simple folder in a filing cabinet along with thousands of 
others, whereas to keep the plates would require a warehouse storage solely for 
keeping printing plates


my opinion and said from someone with a detailed knowledge and experience 
in the printing field:

I think that most bootlegs are copies made from a new set of plates made 
from the original films, or high quality reproductions made from the posters

In the case of the hairy belt poster, I think they had access to the films, 
a hair got on the films during the process from film to plate
in the case of the Style-C, I think that's a copy, which is why the 
printing quality is not nearly as good as an original

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[MOPO] OT: Something to note for Australian eBay sellers

[Phil Edwards]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/ebay-the-trading-post-under-australian-tax-office-scrutiny/story-e6frfh4f-1225898309620

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Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market

[Phil Edwards]

I'd like to poll just to see how many people under 40 are on MOPO.
Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: Holiday Russell 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market


  I would think, though, that beautiful posters will always be in demand.  
Intuitively, there's a point at which the original actor/actress may become 
unknown to new generations, but the art will likely remain attractive to those 
generations.  And, there's the fact that the posters themselves could bring 
around new generations to the movies themselves.  I can't say how many times 
I've come to a great movie because of the poster.


  Holiday




  On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:




  Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that 
will prop up the price I think
the problem with that statement is the new collectors dont know stanwyck, 
lancaster, laughton, milland, garfield, 
colbert...so many awesome posters that we 
seek to buy from the 40s, 50s may lose out.TMC might help avoid these stars 
from "dying".

i just bought a beautiful, powerful one sheet:  HIGH WALL, 1948 with robert 
taylor, audrey totter and herbert marshall.  WANT TO POLL PEOPLE UNDER 40 who 
knows any of those stars?  

casablanca, mildred pierce, bogart, bette davis are among those that will 
always be sought-after.

michael





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From: Holiday Russell 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Sun, Aug 1, 2010 9:01 pm
Subject: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market


Yeah, I think that's how I feel too.  I couldn't do it.  Also, the market 
can absorb a lot of a good thing.  Again, with first edition books, about 15 
years ago, the first two books by a popular writer were remaindered by a big 
remainder company.  About 300 of each hit the market at once.  The company 
limited sales of two of each per buyer.  The books previously sold for about 
200 each.  None were sold other than the remainders for a few years.  Then, 
while no one noticed, the prices were back to what they used to be.


Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that will 
prop up the price I think.  But, I do agree that the must be let go over a few 
years.


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Begin forwarded message:


  From: James Richard 
  Date: August 1, 2010 8:41:58 PM EDT
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE:  flooding the market
  Reply-To: James Richard 


  Nah, destroying any old art/collectible that has managed to survive into 
the current era is just flat out criminal. But there's no reason not to do as 
many on this list have suggested: Keep a couple for yourself and trickle out 
the rest very slowly into the market. This is so obvious you'd think everyone 
would understand it -- yet I see people on Ebay all the time listing 4 or 5 of 
the same item at the same time and calling it "rare" in their descriptions. 

  And then there's this ever-popular Ebay ploy: An item that is reasonably 
scarce (but not truly "rare") sells on Ebay for a decent price (usually because 
no one has put one of those particular things up for a month or two). Suddenly 
every seller in the world who has the same item immediately lists it on Ebay 
within a few days of the first sale -- all of them thinking they are also going 
to get the good price, when in fact all they are doing is guaranteeing they 
will not. They think they will pick up the second bidder who missed the first 
item by only a buck or two? Not if that second bidder suddenly sees 4 or 5 of 
the same item turn up right after he lost the first auction. What he's going to 
do instead is wipe his brow and say "Whew... lucky I got outbid on that first 
auction... I almost paid way too much for one of those."

  -- JR

  Holiday Russell wrote: 
How about keeping a few and destroying the rest?  I've known first 
edition book dealers that have done this.  


Holiday


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Begin forwarded message:


  From: Richard Evans 
  Date: August 1, 2010 8:14:26 PM EDT
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] PUZZLE:  flooding the market
  Reply-To: Richard Evans 


  Hi, I think the point is that, wrong or not, (as Wolfgang confirmed), 
this has happened, in the case of the Peeping Tom quads at least. 
  I really don't know exactly what happened with The Outlaw 6 sheet(s).
  I'm not advocating it, just pointing out that it happens.


  On 2 Aug 2010, at 01:04, Ken Farrell wrote:


Hi, I just thought that I would chime on this one...

I think the point is being missed...If all of a sudden you have 75 
copies of a rare item, the 

Re: [MOPO] age shall not weary them

[Phil Edwards]

I'm 60 this year. Crikey!
phil

  - Original Message - 
  From: Holiday Russell 
  To: Phil Edwards 
  Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market


  Wish I was, but I'm 45


  Holiday




  On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Phil Edwards wrote:


I'd like to poll just to see how many people under 40 are on MOPO.
Phil
  - Original Message -
  From: Holiday Russell
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market


  I would think, though, that beautiful posters will always be in demand.  
Intuitively, there's a point at which the original actor/actress may become 
unknown to new generations, but the art will likely remain attractive to those 
generations.  And, there's the fact that the posters themselves could bring 
around new generations to the movies themselves.  I can't say how many times 
I've come to a great movie because of the poster.


  Holiday




  On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, dialmbb...@aol.com wrote:




  Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that 
will prop up the price I think
the problem with that statement is the new collectors dont know 
stanwyck, lancaster, laughton, milland, garfield, 
colbert...so many awesome posters that we 
seek to buy from the 40s, 50s may lose out.TMC might help avoid these stars 
from "dying".

i just bought a beautiful, powerful one sheet:  HIGH WALL, 1948 with 
robert taylor, audrey totter and herbert marshall.  WANT TO POLL PEOPLE UNDER 
40 who knows any of those stars?  

casablanca, mildred pierce, bogart, bette davis are among those that 
will always be sought-after.

michael





-Original Message-
From: Holiday Russell 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Sun, Aug 1, 2010 9:01 pm
Subject: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE: flooding the market


Yeah, I think that's how I feel too.  I couldn't do it.  Also, the 
market can absorb a lot of a good thing.  Again, with first edition books, 
about 15 years ago, the first two books by a popular writer were remaindered by 
a big remainder company.  About 300 of each hit the market at once.  The 
company limited sales of two of each per buyer.  The books previously sold for 
about 200 each.  None were sold other than the remainders for a few years.  
Then, while no one noticed, the prices were back to what they used to be.


Over time, for good posters, new buyers will increase demand and that 
will prop up the price I think.  But, I do agree that the must be let go over a 
few years.


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Begin forwarded message:


  From: James Richard 
  Date: August 1, 2010 8:41:58 PM EDT
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] PUZZLE:  flooding the market
  Reply-To: James Richard 


  Nah, destroying any old art/collectible that has managed to survive 
into the current era is just flat out criminal. But there's no reason not to do 
as many on this list have suggested: Keep a couple for yourself and trickle out 
the rest very slowly into the market. This is so obvious you'd think everyone 
would understand it -- yet I see people on Ebay all the time listing 4 or 5 of 
the same item at the same time and calling it "rare" in their descriptions. 

  And then there's this ever-popular Ebay ploy: An item that is 
reasonably scarce (but not truly "rare") sells on Ebay for a decent price 
(usually because no one has put one of those particular things up for a month 
or two). Suddenly every seller in the world who has the same item immediately 
lists it on Ebay within a few days of the first sale -- all of them thinking 
they are also going to get the good price, when in fact all they are doing is 
guaranteeing they will not. They think they will pick up the second bidder who 
missed the first item by only a buck or two? Not if that second bidder suddenly 
sees 4 or 5 of the same item turn up right after he lost the first auction. 
What he's going to do instead is wipe his brow and say "Whew... lucky I got 
outbid on that first auction... I almost paid way too much for one of those."

  -- JR

  Holiday Russell wrote:
How about keeping a few and destroying the rest?  I've known first 
edition book dealers that have done this.  


Holiday


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  From: Richard Evans 
  Date: August 1, 2010 8:14:26 PM EDT
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AME

Re: [MOPO] By the Way. . .

[Phil Edwards]

It's definitely scary that with the growing list of films people are posting 
from their birth years, so far there is not one I haven't seen and in many 
cases many times more than once. Yikes!

And learning Kenwick is a Deadhead too, was definitely good news.

Phil
  - Original Message - 
  From: jim episale 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:19 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] By the Way. . .


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  From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Kenwick 
Cook
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:00 PM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] By the Way. . .

   

   

   

  Happy Birthday, Channing!

  I was born the very same day that The Grateful Dead's first album was 
released (St. Patrick's Day 1967: I was born to be a Deadhead!!)... I know, 
wrong forum, so I'll list some cool movies from '67:
  The Graduate, Cool Hand Luke, Bonnie and Clyde, The jungle Book, The Dirty 
Dozen, You Only Live Twice, In Cold Blood, Fearless Vampire Killers, Barefoot 
in the Park, In Like Flint, The Trip, Hell's Angels On Wheels, Mad Monster 
Party, The Flim-Flam Man, Frankenstein Created Woman, King Kong Escapes, The 
Big Mouth,  The Mummy's Shroud...

   

  -Original Message-
  From: channinglylethomson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Sent: Mon, Aug 2, 2010 1:22 pm
  Subject: [MOPO] By the Way. . .

  . . . it's my birthday. I'm 54 years old today. I was born the year of Giant, 
Bus Stop, The Searchers, The King and I, The Ten Commandments, The Killing, 
Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Written on the Wind, The Mole People, Earth Vs. 
the Flying Saucers, It Conquered the World, Carousel, Helen of Troy, and so 
many more! Oh my, Channing 
   
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