Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
In a message dated 7/24/2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Another thing that is confusing is that Scott said the recent MOPO distribution problems were cleared up, except as they affected AOL users. Well, from the minute he said the general MOPO problems were cleared up, I've started receiving the MOPO messages as normal, even though I am indeed still an AOL user. I see no continuing problem with AOL users receiving MOPO messages. Laura: Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. There are a number of other MoPo'ers who still aren't receiving MoPo posts regularly. So far AOL has been absolutely no help in solving this problem. I have registered complaints about their blocking of mail from the AU listserv, but have received no replies. Not even an automated one. Their recommended "fix" (placing the MoPo posting address in your address book) has not worked for many people. It's not AOL bashing that's going on here. I have no problem with people using AOL. I have a problem with their overzealous reaction to spam filtering. I too hate the barrage of e-mail ads for sexual enhancement products, etc. but at least I know my ISP is passing through *all* e-mail sent to me. I use my own spam filters to sort through the junk. I don't need electronic hand-holding from my ISP. I'm hoping that this problem can be solved for those of you still having delivery issues. Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
At 08:21 AM 7/24/05 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 7/24/2005 3:30:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The people who are having all the problems with AOL are the ones who DON'T have AOL addresses -- they can't get through to AOL users half the time because of AOL's over-active spam fiters and the way AOL randomly fails to deliver a large number of messages from non-AOL addresses. >This argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I understand that AOL users have no problem reaching other AOL users. But if all of the dire assessments on AOL of the past couple of weeks were true, you would think that I, as a 10-year AOL user, would have had some trouble at some point receiving email from users who are NOT AOL customers. I have never had any trouble, not as an eBay seller or in any other capacity, frankly. > >Another thing that is confusing is that Scott said the recent MOPO distribution problems were cleared up, except as they affected AOL users. Well, from the minute he said the general MOPO problems were cleared up, I've started receiving the MOPO messages as normal, even though I am indeed still an AOL user. I see no continuing problem with AOL users receiving MOPO messages. > >All of the AOL complaints of the past couple of weeks had me concerned and considering getting a Yahoo address for use on eBay, but my personal experience with AOL just does not support the idea that I need to get off of AOL. > >So, far, I don't get what all the fuss is about. > >Laura I don't know about the "messages getting through" issue that others have spoken of here but for those of us who sometimes need to send attachments to other people, AOL is a nightmare. From AOL user to AOL user, sending them is no problem. From a non-AOL user to one who is, files are not infrequently corrupted on their journey. And it's impossible to send more than one attachment to the same message. Unfailingly, the two (or more) attachments will be mangled and useless when they arrive. Each attachment *must* be sent with a separate message. Then, most of the time, they'll each survive. But combined, never. Craig. ~ Craig Miller Wolfmill Entertainment[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
In a message dated 7/24/2005 3:30:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The people who are having all the problems with AOL are the ones who DON'T have AOL addresses -- they can't get through to AOL users half the time because of AOL's over-active spam fiters and the way AOL randomly fails to deliver a large number of messages from non-AOL addresses. This argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I understand that AOL users have no problem reaching other AOL users. But if all of the dire assessments on AOL of the past couple of weeks were true, you would think that I, as a 10-year AOL user, would have had some trouble at some point receiving email from users who are NOT AOL customers. I have never had any trouble, not as an eBay seller or in any other capacity, frankly. Another thing that is confusing is that Scott said the recent MOPO distribution problems were cleared up, except as they affected AOL users. Well, from the minute he said the general MOPO problems were cleared up, I've started receiving the MOPO messages as normal, even though I am indeed still an AOL user. I see no continuing problem with AOL users receiving MOPO messages. All of the AOL complaints of the past couple of weeks had me concerned and considering getting a Yahoo address for use on eBay, but my personal experience with AOL just does not support the idea that I need to get off of AOL. So, far, I don't get what all the fuss is about. Laura Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Lenny, *sigh* The reason you don't have trouble with AOL is because you have an AOL address and so when you send a message to another AOL address it gets through, no problem. The people who are having all the problems with AOL are the ones who DON'T have AOL addresses -- they can't get through to AOL users half the time because of AOL's over-active spam fiters and the way AOL randomly fails to deliver a large number of messages from non-AOL addresses. There's discrimination at work all right -- but it is AOL discriminating against those who don't choose pay for an AOL address. If you really want to know the kind of hell AOL is putting other people through... people who are forced to do try and business with AOL users because the AOL users win their auctions... or non-sellers who are just trying to reach their friends who have AOL addresses... then scroll through the MOPO archives for the past two weeks -- you'll find horror story after horror story detailing the problems people regularly have trying to communicate with AOL users in recent months.. The archives can be viewed at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l@listserv.american.edu/index.html -- JR[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JR, What's all the commotion about AOL? I use and have had no problems whatsoever. I have been buying and selling for years with no problems. Can someone explain in plain english what this problem is all about? As far as MOPO goes, there has been some long stretches where I haven't received any posts. I feel that there were server problems on their end. What does this have to do with AOL? Before AOL users get blackballed more should be looked into the problem. Why single out AOL users? Its sounds like a case of discrimination. Lenny Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
I use AOL too and I've been receiving the MOPO posts. Kathy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Lenny, You are lucky to not have had any known problems with your aol account. I have had loads of aol users tell me they did not get an email I sent. They usually will get it the second time I send it but many of them tell me they have constant problems with what they refer to as A-O-Hell. It seems that problems rose when aol improved their spam filters. I would say 99% of the time that a buyer says they have not gotten an email it is an AOL account. I personally am not attacking AOL as a whole but it does get frustrating when I send emails to an account and do not know if the recipient got it unless they respond right back. Just knock on wood and thank your lucky stars that you seem to be working just fine. Happy collecting, Rick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems JR, What's all the commotion about AOL? I use and have had no problems whatsoever. I have been buying and selling for years with no problems. Can someone explain in plain english what this problem is all about? As far as MOPO goes, there has been some long stretches where I haven't received any posts. I feel that there were server problems on their end. What does this have to do with AOL? Before AOL users get blackballed more should be looked into the problem. Why single out AOL users? Its sounds like a case of discrimination. Lenny Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
JR, What's all the commotion about AOL? I use and have had no problems whatsoever. I have been buying and selling for years with no problems. Can someone explain in plain english what this problem is all about? As far as MOPO goes, there has been some long stretches where I haven't received any posts. I feel that there were server problems on their end. What does this have to do with AOL? Before AOL users get blackballed more should be looked into the problem. Why single out AOL users? Its sounds like a case of discrimination. Lenny Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Continuing AOL problems
Yes, this is frustrating all around. Apparently, though, it is not exclusively an AOL problem, at least as far as MOPO goes. I've been contacted by several MOPOers who do not use AOL telling me they haven't received MOPO mail in several weeks -- so the problem seems larger than just AOL. And Phil, the Yank constitution provides for a check on government, and unfortunately not on public corporations. The first amendment says *Congress* shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press. Since attempts to AOL customer service have been unproductive, maybe contacting customer RELATIONS at AOL corporate might be of more help. As of the moment, for me, I am getting sporadic messages from MOPO, and those I do get are 2 or 3 days late. Henry The Poster Mint Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Funny you should say that JR... after several incredibly frustrating
transactions with AOL users the last few weeks, we are certainly going
to put a note on all our auctions to the effect that AOL users may
experience difficulties completing their transaction.
Barring AOL users is drastic, but you are not wrong in what you say.
I guess the thing that is irritating/frustrating is that so many AOL
users think that it's everyone else's fault, not the fact that they are
using an ISP that is basically censoring their mail. Like I said earlier
(probably not read by most AOL users because it's hit or miss whether
they see MoPo posts now) isn't this under the heading of free speech issues.
Like, d'uh folks - wake up. You are paying for a service that is using a
discriminatory marketing tactic that is stopping you doing business...
so why on earth are you continuing to support it?
Phil
J R wrote:
If AOL wants to play hardball, the rest of the internet community
should respond in kind. I can guarantee you that if the majority of
sellers on eBay started putting in notices on their auctions that they
would no longer accept bids from users with AOL addresses (and explain
why) that the AOL users themselves would very quickly force AOL to get
its act together and start playing nice with everyone else.
But that won't happen. The mortal terror of missing that bid from an
AOL user... even with all the hassle it now entails... will keep most
sellers accepting bids from AOL users. Which is exactly what AOL is
counting on. They think they are now big enought that they can dictate
to the industry, just as Microsoft does. They're probably right.
Friends don't let friends use AOL.
-- JR
*/Phil Edwards Cinema Arts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
Yeah, I got it too.
Phil
Freedom Lover wrote:
> Got it!
> Andrea
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Peter
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
>
> seam123 wrote:
>
>>This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's
>>unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign
>>up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear.
>>It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists.
>>
>>
> Hi all.
>
> AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a
> friend in the UK from Holland.
> They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below:
>
> I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others
> don't.
> One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It
> was delayed for two days and then bounced.
> I removed the word "virus" and all went well.
>
> A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an
> error number and a URL to the explanation of it.
> So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails
> should you want to go into that.
>
> Here's one of mine:
>
>
> * *554 HVU:B1
> http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html*
>
> *EXPLANATION:*
>
> There is at least one URL in your email that is generating
> substantial complaints from AOL members.
>
> *SOLUTION:*
>
> If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to
> discuss more effective management of your complaint levels.
> You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this
> form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints
> against your domain.
>
> If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that
> domain
>
>
>
> "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating
> substantial complaints from AOL members."
>
> Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO.
>
> Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set
> too strict.
>
> F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx .
> something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about
> being such a site warned.
>
>
> Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger
> their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set
> for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their
> subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE
> med!c!ne ..
>
> There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come
> back all is forgiven.
>
> And this will also
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
If AOL wants to play hardball, the rest of the internet community should respond in kind. I can guarantee you that if the majority of sellers on eBay started putting in notices on their auctions that they would no longer accept bids from users with AOL addresses (and explain why) that the AOL users themselves would very quickly force AOL to get its act together and start playing nice with everyone else. But that won't happen. The mortal terror of missing that bid from an AOL user... even with all the hassle it now entails... will keep most sellers accepting bids from AOL users. Which is exactly what AOL is counting on. They think they are now big enought that they can dictate to the industry, just as Microsoft does. They're probably right. Friends don't let friends use AOL. -- JRPhil Edwards Cinema Arts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, I got it too.PhilFreedom Lover wrote:> Got it!> Andrea>> - Original Message -> *From:* Peter > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems>> seam123 wrote:>>>This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's>>unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign>>up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear.>>It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists.>>>>> Hi all.>> AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a> friend in the UK from Holland.> They won't solve the problem since its by design.! . See below:>> I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others> don't.> One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It> was delayed for two days and then bounced.> I removed the word "virus" and all went well.>> A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an> error number and a URL to the explanation of it.> So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails> should you want to go into that.>> Here's one of mine:>>> * *554 HVU:B1> http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html*>> *EXPLANATION:*>> There is at least one URL in your email that is generating> substantial complaints from AOL members.>> *SOLUTION:*>> If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to> discuss more effective management of your compla! int levels.> You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this> form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints> against your domain.>> If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that> domain>>>> "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating> substantial complaints from AOL members.">> Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO.>> Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set> too strict.>> F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx .> something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about> being such a site warned.>>> Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger> their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set> for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their> subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE> med!c!ne ..>> There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come> back all is forgiven.>> And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used> enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one> filtered for all AOLers.> If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey> next time I see a bounced email arrive again.>> Peter>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com>> ___>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List>> Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.>> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date:> 7/14/2005>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com>> ___>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List>> Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.>>---
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Yeah, I got it too. Phil Freedom Lover wrote: Got it! Andrea - Original Message - *From:* Peter <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems seam123 wrote: This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all. AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland. They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below: I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced. I removed the word "virus" and all went well. A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it. So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that. Here's one of mine: * *554 HVU:B1 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html* *EXPLANATION:* There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. *SOLUTION:* If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your complaint levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members." Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict. F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned. Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne .. There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven. And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again. Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Got it! Andrea - Original Message - From: Peter To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems seam123 wrote: This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all.AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland.They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below:I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced.I removed the word "virus" and all went well.A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it.So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that.Here's one of mine: 554 HVU:B1http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html EXPLANATION: There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. SOLUTION: If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your complaint levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members." Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict.F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned.Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne ..There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven.And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again.Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
seam123 wrote: This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all. AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland. They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below: I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced. I removed the word "virus" and all went well. A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it. So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that. Here's one of mine: 554 HVU:B1 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html EXPLANATION: There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. SOLUTION: If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your complaint levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members." Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict. F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned. Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne .. There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven. And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again. Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
I am not computer savy. i didn't realize the difference between MOPO and listerserv. if scott believes that it is too much effort on his part to address this matter because it only affects a few members, i will acquiesce to that. i tried to deal with aol, but they told me that only the "senders" can call. who knows, maybe another aol rep would be more accommodating. i know the frustration, of dealing with the robot reps that aol employs (in india), so i cant fault scott for backing off (since MOPO is a free service). the good that came of this is that i now know how to review MOPO archived postings. but obviously, my info may not be current. maybe in time, the aol situation may improve. on a different note -now that icollectmovieposters is gone...i am surprised that there is not any more activity on MOPO. michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] continuing aol problems
The irony is during the beginning of the Internet, a lot of us were AOL users. Then voila! It dawned on us that if you spent more time surfing the web or sending e-mail, you didn't need AOL and any of its extra "features." You just needed a browser and a reliable service provider. ** I began noticing problems getting WORSE with AOL users about a month ago. At first, like everyone else, I thought AOL's spam filters had been manually (or set by default) for users at different levels of "safety." I thought it was a matter of making sure you sent mail to individual AOL users without a lot of "cc's." But no. My friends, business associates and clients who continue to use AOL -- both person-to-person e-mail to business-to-business e-mail, have been adversely impacted during the last four weeks. Worse than ever before. In most cases, my mail friends or business associates was delayed up to two days, or was never delayed at all. Mail that did get through -- I received responses near instantly to stuff I wrote days before. The problem is not mail FROM AOL users -- but mail TO AOL users. I've since given up with sending mail to AOL users. If it's urgent, I'll call. If not, I'll send an e-mail and take a 50% gamble it'll get through. ** The problem is CLEARLY with AOL. This has gone beyond being an "annoyance." It is disrupting personal and business communications worldwide. ** Unless AOL's own paying subscribers -- complain en masse that they're not getting mail from friends or dealers with whom they are transacting business -- NOTHING will be done. There is NO incentive for AOL to do anything unless they feel they might potentially lose subscribers. It's worse than the problems with eBay being unresponsive to transaction complaints. We're talking basic person-to-person e-mail here. There was a time when "hotmail.com" was one of the biggest problems on the Internet. You couldn't trust it because a lot of spam was sent by Hotmail (and Yahoo) users. Now Hotmail has one of the best and most flexible spam filters around and I'm now a premium user who pays only $29 a YEAR to have 2GB worth of storage. I have a two Yahoo accounts but in my view, Hotmail's interface and flexibility, its ability to display e-mail headers with IP locator codes more readily -- to identify bogus scams and spam masquerading as legitimate mail -- its mandatory built-in virus checker for all incoming mail -- its ability to let you mark legitimate users as "safe" -- and those who aren't as "junk" with a click of a mouse -- makes Hotmail is a snap. Its only limitation is you can only upload images one file at a time. Next to hosting your own web space, Hotmail is now fine. I don't even use Outlook Express (built into most Windows operating systems) to sort e-mail, which has an address book that had once been responsible for spreading viruses around the world. ** AOL is headed for extinction and the tragedy is that many users are now bound to it. Their accounts are linked to their business/banking and other important activities. Many AOL users feel it's too much hassle to change to a new ISP, re-registering with their creditors their new contact information, etc. AOL users, through no fault of their own, are getting slammed if they continue to rely upon it as their primary e-mail account. Alert notices from other ISPs and their friends and creditors aren't getting through, urgent personal e-mail who can't contact an AOL user by phone goes into a black hole and all manner of hell will result. Sorry for all of the words, but please -- all users of AOL -- please send a two-line note to AOL's "Help" or "Customer Service" departments that will take less than 60 seconds to copy and paste: "URGENT: Please reply within 48 hours. Hundreds of thousands of AOL users, including myself -- are not getting critical e-mail from friends and creditors -- who aren't AOL users. Many AOL users will be forced to cancel their subscriptions. Please advise if you have received similar reports -- and what you are doing to correct this problem. Thank you." -d. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Dear Scott, I have mentioned this before. As an ebay seller, AOL is a nightmare. I have at least 25 auctions a week end with bidders who have AOl. About 50% know the routine and check their junk folder. The other's dont and, if all other avenues fail, I wind up having to send them a letter through the mail to get confirmation of the order. Now, theoretically, the rules of ebay are that the seller and buyer contact each other within three days. That doesn't happen a lot in my case. It is so much extra work that I include on every one of my listings a note about AOL users. I will say that in the past month I have had a lot of customers call or email to say they no longer use AOL and have switched to another service. It continues to be problematic. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com (800) 463-2994 - Original Message - From: Scott Burns To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems Michael B wrote: "i sent scott an email in which i gave him information sent to me from AOL. according to aol, they have a 24 hour hotline whereby senders of email can call. scott, have you called the toll free number of aol that i provided you, which might correct the problem?" Unfortunately, no one at American University is going to call AOL's hotline so that e-mail from a legitimate listserv can be accorded the privilege of passing through AOL's spam filters. While technically I guess AU *is* the sender, in reality the subscribers of AOL who are affected by this filtering should go to battle with AOL. AU already is giving us use of their listserv and I don't want to rock the boat with them. My calling AOL would be pointless. I'm not an AOL sub and I'm not actually the "sender" of MoPo mail. I have no system admin credentials nor the information required to satisfy AOL. Sorry Michael (and all AOL'ers), but this battle is yours. If it were me, I'd be switching to another ISP. I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating e-mail problems for a lot of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers complained long and loud. Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
"I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating e-mail problems for a lot of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers complained long and loud." This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. --- Scott Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael B wrote: > "i sent scott an email in which i gave him > information sent to me from AOL. > according to aol, they have a 24 hour hotline > whereby senders of email can > call. > scott, have you called the toll free number of aol > that i provided you, > which might correct the problem?" > > > Unfortunately, no one at American University is > going to call AOL's hotline > so that e-mail from a legitimate listserv can be > accorded the privilege of > passing through AOL's spam filters. While > technically I guess AU *is* the > sender, in reality the subscribers of AOL who are > affected by this filtering > should go to battle with AOL. AU already is giving > us use of their listserv > and I don't want to rock the boat with them. > > My calling AOL would be pointless. I'm not an AOL > sub and I'm not actually > the "sender" of MoPo mail. I have no system admin > credentials nor the > information required to satisfy AOL. Sorry Michael > (and all AOL'ers), but > this battle is yours. If it were me, I'd be > switching to another ISP. > > I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating > e-mail problems for a lot > of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers > complained long and > loud. > > Scott > MoPo List Owner > > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at > www.filmfan.com > > ___ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo > Mailing List > >Send a message addressed to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the BODY of your message type: > SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible > for its content. > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Michael B wrote: "i sent scott an email in which i gave him information sent to me from AOL. according to aol, they have a 24 hour hotline whereby senders of email can call. scott, have you called the toll free number of aol that i provided you, which might correct the problem?" Unfortunately, no one at American University is going to call AOL's hotline so that e-mail from a legitimate listserv can be accorded the privilege of passing through AOL's spam filters. While technically I guess AU *is* the sender, in reality the subscribers of AOL who are affected by this filtering should go to battle with AOL. AU already is giving us use of their listserv and I don't want to rock the boat with them. My calling AOL would be pointless. I'm not an AOL sub and I'm not actually the "sender" of MoPo mail. I have no system admin credentials nor the information required to satisfy AOL. Sorry Michael (and all AOL'ers), but this battle is yours. If it were me, I'd be switching to another ISP. I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating e-mail problems for a lot of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers complained long and loud. Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] continuing aol problems
i just read henry mazel's post and that of scott's i sent scott an email in which i gave him information sent to me from AOL. according to aol, they have a 24 hour hotline whereby senders of email can call. over the past few days, about 4 posts have gotten to me..but what is interesting is that i receive them 23 - 26 hours after dispatch. scott, have you called the toll free number of aol that i provided you, which might correct the problem? i have NEVER, NEVER had this problem before with aol mail. and remember, if aol believed that the item was, in fact spam, it would be sent to your aol spam file. therefore, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE A RECIPIENT'S SETTINGS. michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
