Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Lenny, *sigh* The reason you don't have trouble with AOL is because youhave anAOL address and so when you send a message to another AOL address it gets through, no problem. The people who are having all the problems with AOL are the ones who DON'T have AOL addresses -- they can't get through to AOL users half the time because of AOL's over-active spam fiters and the way AOL randomly fails to deliver a large number of messages from non-AOL addresses. There's discrimination at work all right -- but it is AOL discriminating against those who don't choose pay for an AOL address. If you really want to know the kind of hell AOL is putting other people through... people who are forced to do try and business with AOL users because the AOL users win their auctions... or non-sellers who are just trying to reach their friends whohave AOL addresses... then scroll through the MOPO archives for the past two weeks -- you'll find horror story after horror story detailing the problems people regularly havetrying to communicate withAOL users in recent months.. The archives can be viewed at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l@listserv.american.edu/index.html -- JR[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JR, What's all the commotion about AOL? I use and have had no problems whatsoever. I have been buying and selling for years with no problems. Can someone explain in plain english what this problem is all about? As far as MOPO goes, there has been some long stretches where I haven't received any posts. I feel that there were server problems on their end. What does this have to do with AOL? Before AOL users get blackballed more should be looked into the problem. Why single out AOL users? Its sounds like a case of discrimination. Lenny Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
In a message dated 7/24/2005 3:30:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The people who are having all the problems with AOL are the ones who DON'T have AOL addresses -- they can't get through to AOL users half the time because of AOL's over-active spam fiters and the way AOL randomly fails to deliver a large number of messages from non-AOL addresses. This argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I understand that AOL users have no problem reaching other AOL users. But if all of the dire assessments on AOL of the past couple of weeks were true, you would think that I, as a 10-year AOL user, would have had some trouble at some point receiving email from users who are NOT AOL customers. I have never had any trouble, not as an eBay seller or in any other capacity, frankly. Another thing that is confusing is that Scott said the recent MOPO distribution problems were cleared up, except as they affected AOL users. Well, from the minute he said the general MOPO problems were cleared up, I've started receiving the MOPO messages as normal, even though I am indeed still an AOL user. I see no continuing problem with AOL users receiving MOPO messages. All of the AOL complaints of the past couple of weeks had me concerned and considering getting a Yahoo address for use on eBay, but my personal experience with AOL just does not support the idea that I need to get off of AOL. So, far, I don't get what all the fuss is about. Laura Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
At 08:21 AM 7/24/05 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/24/2005 3:30:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The people who are having all the problems with AOL are the ones who DON'T have AOL addresses -- they can't get through to AOL users half the time because of AOL's over-active spam fiters and the way AOL randomly fails to deliver a large number of messages from non-AOL addresses. This argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I understand that AOL users have no problem reaching other AOL users. But if all of the dire assessments on AOL of the past couple of weeks were true, you would think that I, as a 10-year AOL user, would have had some trouble at some point receiving email from users who are NOT AOL customers. I have never had any trouble, not as an eBay seller or in any other capacity, frankly. Another thing that is confusing is that Scott said the recent MOPO distribution problems were cleared up, except as they affected AOL users. Well, from the minute he said the general MOPO problems were cleared up, I've started receiving the MOPO messages as normal, even though I am indeed still an AOL user. I see no continuing problem with AOL users receiving MOPO messages. All of the AOL complaints of the past couple of weeks had me concerned and considering getting a Yahoo address for use on eBay, but my personal experience with AOL just does not support the idea that I need to get off of AOL. So, far, I don't get what all the fuss is about. Laura I don't know about the messages getting through issue that others have spoken of here but for those of us who sometimes need to send attachments to other people, AOL is a nightmare. From AOL user to AOL user, sending them is no problem. From a non-AOL user to one who is, files are not infrequently corrupted on their journey. And it's impossible to send more than one attachment to the same message. Unfailingly, the two (or more) attachments will be mangled and useless when they arrive. Each attachment *must* be sent with a separate message. Then, most of the time, they'll each survive. But combined, never. Craig. ~ Craig Miller Wolfmill Entertainment[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
JR, What's all the commotion about AOL? I use and have had no problems whatsoever. I have been buying and selling for years with no problems. Can someone explain in plain english what this problem is all about? As far as MOPO goes, there has been some long stretches where I haven't received any posts. I feel that there were server problems on their end. What does this have to do with AOL? Before AOL users get blackballed more should be looked into the problem. Why single out AOL users? Its sounds like a case of discrimination. Lenny Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Lenny, You are lucky to not have had any known problems with your aol account. I have had loads of aol users tell me they did not get an email I sent. They usually will get it the second time I send it but many of them tell me they have constant problems with what they refer to as A-O-Hell. It seems that problems rose when aol improved their spam filters. I would say 99% of the time that a buyer says they have not gotten an email it is an AOL account. I personally am not attacking AOL as a whole but it does get frustrating when I send emails to an account and do not know if the recipient got it unless they respond right back. Just knock on wood and thank your lucky stars that you seem to be working just fine. Happy collecting, Rick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems JR, What's all the commotion about AOL? I use and have had no problems whatsoever. I have been buying and selling for years with no problems. Can someone explain in plain english what this problem is all about? As far as MOPO goes, there has been some long stretches where I haven't received any posts. I feel that there were server problems on their end. What does this have to do with AOL? Before AOL users get blackballed more should be looked into the problem. Why single out AOL users? Its sounds like a case of discrimination. Lenny Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I use AOL too and I've been receiving the MOPO posts. Kathy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Funny you should say that JR... after several incredibly frustrating transactions with AOL users the last few weeks, we are certainly going to put a note on all our auctions to the effect that AOL users may experience difficulties completing their transaction. Barring AOL users is drastic, but you are not wrong in what you say. I guess the thing that is irritating/frustrating is that so many AOL users think that it's everyone else's fault, not the fact that they are using an ISP that is basically censoring their mail. Like I said earlier (probably not read by most AOL users because it's hit or miss whether they see MoPo posts now) isn't this under the heading of free speech issues. Like, d'uh folks - wake up. You are paying for a service that is using a discriminatory marketing tactic that is stopping you doing business... so why on earth are you continuing to support it? Phil J R wrote: If AOL wants to play hardball, the rest of the internet community should respond in kind. I can guarantee you that if the majority of sellers on eBay started putting in notices on their auctions that they would no longer accept bids from users with AOL addresses (and explain why) that the AOL users themselves would very quickly force AOL to get its act together and start playing nice with everyone else. But that won't happen. The mortal terror of missing that bid from an AOL user... even with all the hassle it now entails... will keep most sellers accepting bids from AOL users. Which is exactly what AOL is counting on. They think they are now big enought that they can dictate to the industry, just as Microsoft does. They're probably right. Friends don't let friends use AOL. -- JR */Phil Edwards Cinema Arts [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Yeah, I got it too. Phil Freedom Lover wrote: Got it! Andrea - Original Message - *From:* Peter *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems seam123 wrote: This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all. AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland. They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below: I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced. I removed the word virus and all went well. A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it. So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that. Here's one of mine: * *554 HVU:B1 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html* *EXPLANATION:* There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. *SOLUTION:* If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your complaint levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict. F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned. Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne .. There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven. And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again. Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Continuing AOL problems
Yes, this is frustrating all around. Apparently, though, it is not exclusively an AOL problem, at least as far as MOPO goes. I've been contacted by several MOPOers who do not use AOL telling me they haven't received MOPO mail in several weeks -- so the problem seems larger than just AOL. And Phil, the Yank constitution provides for a check on government, and unfortunately not on public corporations. The first amendment says *Congress* shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press. Since attempts to AOL customer service have been unproductive, maybe contacting customer RELATIONS at AOL corporate might be of more help. As of the moment, for me, I am getting sporadic messages from MOPO, and those I do get are 2 or 3 days late. Henry The Poster Mint Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
If AOL wants to play hardball, the rest of the internet community should respond in kind. I can guarantee you that if the majority of sellers on eBay started putting in notices on their auctions that they would no longer accept bids from users with AOL addresses (and explain why) that the AOL users themselves would very quickly force AOL to get its act together and start playing nice with everyone else. But that won't happen. The mortal terror of missing that bid from an AOL user... even with all the hassle it now entails... will keep most sellers accepting bids from AOL users. Which is exactly what AOL is counting on. They think they are now big enought that they can dictate to the industry, just as Microsoft does. They're probably right. Friends don't let friends use AOL. -- JRPhil Edwards Cinema Arts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I got it too.PhilFreedom Lover wrote: Got it! Andrea - Original Message - *From:* Peter <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems seam123 wrote:This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it'sunlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just signup for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear.It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all. AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland. They won't solve the problem since its by design.! . See below: I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced. I removed the word "virus" and all went well. A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it. So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that. Here's one of mine: * *554 HVU:B1 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html* *EXPLANATION:* There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. *SOLUTION:* If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your compla! int levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members." Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict. F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned. Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne .. There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven. And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again. Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.! 0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.Visi
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Yeah, I got it too. Phil Freedom Lover wrote: Got it! Andrea - Original Message - *From:* Peter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems seam123 wrote: This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all. AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland. They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below: I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced. I removed the word virus and all went well. A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it. So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that. Here's one of mine: * *554 HVU:B1 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html* *EXPLANATION:* There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. *SOLUTION:* If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your complaint levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict. F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned. Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne .. There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven. And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again. Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Michael B wrote: "i sent scott an email in which i gave him information sent to me from AOL. according to aol, theyhave a 24 hour hotline whereby senders of email can call. scott, have you called the toll free number of aol that i provided you, which might correct the problem?" Unfortunately, no one at American University is going to call AOL's hotline so that e-mail from a legitimate listserv can be accorded the privilege of passing through AOL's spam filters. While technically I guess AU *is* the sender, in reality the subscribers of AOL who are affected by this filtering should go to battle with AOL. AU already is giving us use of their listserv and I don't want to rock the boat with them. My calling AOL would be pointless. I'm not an AOL sub and I'm not actually the "sender" of MoPo mail. I have no system admin credentials nor the information required to satisfy AOL. Sorry Michael (and all AOL'ers), but this battle is yours. If it were me, I'd be switching to another ISP. I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating e-mail problems for a lot of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers complained long and loud. Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating e-mail problems for a lot of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers complained long and loud. This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. --- Scott Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael B wrote: i sent scott an email in which i gave him information sent to me from AOL. according to aol, they have a 24 hour hotline whereby senders of email can call. scott, have you called the toll free number of aol that i provided you, which might correct the problem? Unfortunately, no one at American University is going to call AOL's hotline so that e-mail from a legitimate listserv can be accorded the privilege of passing through AOL's spam filters. While technically I guess AU *is* the sender, in reality the subscribers of AOL who are affected by this filtering should go to battle with AOL. AU already is giving us use of their listserv and I don't want to rock the boat with them. My calling AOL would be pointless. I'm not an AOL sub and I'm not actually the sender of MoPo mail. I have no system admin credentials nor the information required to satisfy AOL. Sorry Michael (and all AOL'ers), but this battle is yours. If it were me, I'd be switching to another ISP. I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating e-mail problems for a lot of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers complained long and loud. Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Dear Scott, I have mentioned this before. As an ebay seller, AOL is a nightmare. I have at least 25 auctions a week end with bidders who have AOl. About 50% know the routine and check their junk folder. The other's dont and, if all other avenues fail, I wind up having to send them a letter through the mail to get confirmation of the order. Now, theoretically, the rules of ebay are that the seller and buyer contact each other within three days. That doesn't happen a lot in my case. It is so much extra work that I include on every one of my listings a note about AOL users. I will say that in the past month I have had a lot of customers call or email to say they no longer use AOL and have switched to another service. It continues to be problematic. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com (800) 463-2994 - Original Message - From: Scott Burns To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems Michael B wrote: "i sent scott an email in which i gave him information sent to me from AOL. according to aol, theyhave a 24 hour hotline whereby senders of email can call. scott, have you called the toll free number of aol that i provided you, which might correct the problem?" Unfortunately, no one at American University is going to call AOL's hotline so that e-mail from a legitimate listserv can be accorded the privilege of passing through AOL's spam filters. While technically I guess AU *is* the sender, in reality the subscribers of AOL who are affected by this filtering should go to battle with AOL. AU already is giving us use of their listserv and I don't want to rock the boat with them. My calling AOL would be pointless. I'm not an AOL sub and I'm not actually the "sender" of MoPo mail. I have no system admin credentials nor the information required to satisfy AOL. Sorry Michael (and all AOL'ers), but this battle is yours. If it were me, I'd be switching to another ISP. I don't mean to sound harsh, but AOL is creating e-mail problems for a lot of people (not just MoPo). It's time their customers complained long and loud. Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
I am not computer savy. i didn't realize the difference between MOPO and listerserv. if scott believes that it is too much effort on his part to address this matter becauseit only affects a few members, i will acquiesce to that. i tried to deal with aol, butthey told me that only the "senders" can call. who knows, maybe another aol rep would be more accommodating. i know the frustration, ofdealing withtherobot reps thataol employs (in india), so i cant fault scott for backing off (since MOPO is a free service). the good that came of this is that i now know how to review MOPO archived postings. but obviously, my info may not be current. maybe in time, the aol situation may improve. on a different note -now that icollectmovieposters is gone...i am surprised that there is not any more activity on MOPO. michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
seam123 wrote: This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all. AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland. They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below: I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced. I removed the word "virus" and all went well. A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it. So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that. Here's one of mine: 554 HVU:B1 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html EXPLANATION: There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. SOLUTION: If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your complaint levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members." Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict. F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned. Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne .. There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven. And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again. Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems
Got it! Andrea - Original Message - From: Peter To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] continuing aol problems seam123 wrote: This is spot on. The best advice, seeing as how it's unlikely AOL will solve this problem, is to just sign up for a yahoo mail account. The issue will disappear. It's not just with MoPo that this problem exists. Hi all.AOL has another agenda I think. I get the same problems mailing a friend in the UK from Holland.They won't solve the problem since its by design.. See below:I have noticed that it isn't constant, some get through and others don't. One that didn't had advice on a few computer virusses in them. It was delayed for two days and then bounced.I removed the word "virus" and all went well.A second one contained a few URLs. No go. They do send back an error number and a URL to the explanation of it.So based on that info you can find out what happens to your mails should you want to go into that.Here's one of mine: 554 HVU:B1http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvub1.html EXPLANATION: There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members. SOLUTION: If you own all the domains linked to in your e-mail, please to discuss more effective management of your complaint levels. You can start by setting up a free complaint loop through this form. This will allow you to receive AOL member complaints against your domain. If you do not own the domain, please have the owner of that domain "There is at least one URL in your email that is generating substantial complaints from AOL members." Well.. thats nice. It had a whopping TWO. Its obvious, they are using content scanning software which is set too strict.F.i. any message warning people not to go to url www . xxx . xxx . something will go in the bin if lots of people complain about being such a site warned.Now the only thing to do is try and avoid text that might trigger their filters. Absurd if you ask me. I bet they have filters set for common phrases all sellers here use. Obviously to keep their subscribers from being bombed by spam mail with offers for FREE med!c!ne ..There used to be a time when they called it America Off Line. Come back all is forgiven.And this will also test their filters as well. I think I have used enough phrases and broke all spam mail rules to have this one filtered for all AOLers. If you get this anyway I'm stumped and will take a nice whiskey next time I see a bounced email arrive again.Peter Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
