Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Elaine and Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Heather Wall
Elaine,

Thanks for your in-depth post!  I actually think there are several things going 
on with this child. First, I do believe he's been taught that reading is an 
accuracy game, rather than a meaning game, based on what I know of the school 
system he attends. His accuracy is actually fairly good, though he struggles 
some with typical multi-syllable words. He self-corrects very little, which 
means he's not reading for meaning. That's also where I felt the monotone 
reading came in, in that he's not "making sense" of what he's reading, but jsut 
covering the words. 2) He doesn't necessarily talk in the same tone that he 
reads in, but he is obviuosly discouraged and defeated about reading, so 
there's very little enthusiasm involved in reading for him. 3) I've only worked 
with him 4 times and have not focused on his writing b/c I was asked to work 
specifically on reading comprehension. The interesting thing I've found is 4) 
that he does not appear to visualize when reading at all. It
 has been a real struggle for him to try visualizing b/c he's so convinced that 
there's a "right" answer, he's been unwilling to "create" a movie in his head 
to an unillustrated text. Jsut this past (4th) time did he begin to willingly 
create the movie in his head. We had to begin very slowly, based on Nanci 
Bell's work in "Visualizing and Verbalizing": start at the word level, then go 
to the phrase, then sentence level, gradually expanding what he was asked to 
visualize.

My main question was about his monotone expression and whether that could have 
any effect on his comprehension in and of itself. Obviously, that's hard to 
separate from his other difficulties. We have done some echo reading of 
dialogue (I wanted him to hear a model of expressive reading) and we've also 
played "trash basketball", with a basket earned for every time he reads a 
sentence or two with expression. That has greatly helped, but only during trash 
basketball!  He needs multiple repetitions, I believe (we are working at his 
independent level at this point).

Again, thanks for your insightful response. Any other suggesionts would be 
greatly appreciated!
 
Heather Wall/ 3rd grade/ Georgia
NBCT 2005
Literacy: Reading - Language Arts






>>What do the rest of you think? I believe to really come up with 
possible suggestions, we need to know 1) how he speaks-- if he's flat 
and expressionless in oral language, 2) how he writes (if he uses 
punctuation in his writing-- if he does, good. You can then use that as 
a wedge/entree into using it in his reading. If not, then we need to 
get him to understand why punctuation is more than just something there 
to complain about when it's skipped, perhaps by using his own writing 
to demonstrate the importance of punctuation 3) does he understand that 
reading is about meaning? If not, you need to start there, perhaps by 
using his own writing.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Spider web weaving---Please disregard!!!

2007-07-12 Thread Olga Reynolds
OOOps---sent to wrong address!!!
--- Olga Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Elaine ---
> just a quick update on the spiderweb---well how
> ideas 
> evolve in the classroom,
> 
> Used the book Spiders by Gail Gibbons to help
> "build"
> the web, it's a great tie in!!!
> 
> So far  we have the seven strong foundations silks
> radiating from the center---you becoming a
> readereach silk cord represents "one of the
> tools
> we carry with us everyday everywhere to help us
> learn
> (survive)":
> they are our nose, mouth, eyes, ears, and hands  AND
> 
> our heart and brain.  
> 
> As mot has evolved with me and my students---I have
> come to realize that SCHEMA is the utmost important
> element to develop with young readers---and
> everything
> else falls into place---inferring, visualizing,
> summarizing  etcI alway kept falling back to
> have
> you ever tasted, or seen or remember how that
> sounds---
> 
> So when I teach the concept of schemaI explained
> to the children that schema is  every touch they
> have
> madesmooth, hot, wet, dry, hard, prickly(see
> the science in this!!!); every taste that has melted
> on their tongue---sweet, buttery, sour, bitter,
> salty,
> hot, cheetoee;
> every image reflected in their eyes--sparkly, dull,
> reds, yellows, straight, croooked, curvy; every
> sound
> they have heard--loud, soft, screechy,
> drippy-droppy;
> every smell that has wafted into ttheir
> nose--popcorny, perfumy, orange, lemony, skunky,
> manurey---;
> then the heart--how they have felt---sad, scared,
> unloved, cared about---and the brain--knowledge they
> have aquired from someone else, as well as the brain
> being always engaged to wonderI have to tell you
> that kindergartners and first graders have  gotten
> this much better that my summer school second
> graders,
> but then again I only have them for 4 weeks.
> 
> And this  sounds like  CONNNECTIONSso let's get
> back to the web
> 
> a center (the reader) and the seven radiating
> cords---the first circular weave was the
> wondering--the asking questions-why does it
> loook
> that way?  why does it make that sound?  I wonder
> how
> it feels?
> Does it have a smell?  Why is she smiling???  It
> really became much easier for the students to  ask
> questions---because now they were connecting their
> questions to their schema (and hopefully build to
> more
> creative curiosity).
> 
> Anyway this is where we are at.  My plan is that
> next
> week we will add the next weave which will probably
> be
> visualization.  
> 
> During the regular year, I plan to spend way more
> time
> on schema---particularly as it relates to our
> "personal bag of tools" and really make the
> connections to science---
> 
> I'll send pics of what we end up with at the end of
> next week!!!
> 
> olga 
>   
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Spider web weaving---mistakenly sent to wrong group!!!

2007-07-12 Thread Olga Reynolds
I mistakenly sent my personal stuff to the
group--please disregard!
--- Olga Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Elaine ---
> just a quick update on the spiderweb---well how
> ideas 
> evolve in the classroom,
> 
> Used the book Spiders by Gail Gibbons to help
> "build"
> the web, it's a great tie in!!!
> 
> So far  we have the seven strong foundations silks
> radiating from the center---you becoming a
> readereach silk cord represents "one of the
> tools
> we carry with us everyday everywhere to help us
> learn
> (survive)":
> they are our nose, mouth, eyes, ears, and hands  AND
> 
> our heart and brain.  
> 
> As mot has evolved with me and my students---I have
> come to realize that SCHEMA is the utmost important
> element to develop with young readers---and
> everything
> else falls into place---inferring, visualizing,
> summarizing  etcI alway kept falling back to
> have
> you ever tasted, or seen or remember how that
> sounds---
> 
> So when I teach the concept of schemaI explained
> to the children that schema is  every touch they
> have
> madesmooth, hot, wet, dry, hard, prickly(see
> the science in this!!!); every taste that has melted
> on their tongue---sweet, buttery, sour, bitter,
> salty,
> hot, cheetoee;
> every image reflected in their eyes--sparkly, dull,
> reds, yellows, straight, croooked, curvy; every
> sound
> they have heard--loud, soft, screechy,
> drippy-droppy;
> every smell that has wafted into ttheir
> nose--popcorny, perfumy, orange, lemony, skunky,
> manurey---;
> then the heart--how they have felt---sad, scared,
> unloved, cared about---and the brain--knowledge they
> have aquired from someone else, as well as the brain
> being always engaged to wonderI have to tell you
> that kindergartners and first graders have  gotten
> this much better that my summer school second
> graders,
> but then again I only have them for 4 weeks.
> 
> And this  sounds like  CONNNECTIONSso let's get
> back to the web
> 
> a center (the reader) and the seven radiating
> cords---the first circular weave was the
> wondering--the asking questions-why does it
> loook
> that way?  why does it make that sound?  I wonder
> how
> it feels?
> Does it have a smell?  Why is she smiling???  It
> really became much easier for the students to  ask
> questions---because now they were connecting their
> questions to their schema (and hopefully build to
> more
> creative curiosity).
> 
> Anyway this is where we are at.  My plan is that
> next
> week we will add the next weave which will probably
> be
> visualization.  
> 
> During the regular year, I plan to spend way more
> time
> on schema---particularly as it relates to our
> "personal bag of tools" and really make the
> connections to science---
> 
> I'll send pics of what we end up with at the end of
> next week!!!
> 
> olga 
>   
> 
> 


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[MOSAIC] Spider web weaving

2007-07-12 Thread Olga Reynolds
Elaine ---
just a quick update on the spiderweb---well how ideas 
evolve in the classroom,

Used the book Spiders by Gail Gibbons to help "build"
the web, it's a great tie in!!!

So far  we have the seven strong foundations silks
radiating from the center---you becoming a
readereach silk cord represents "one of the tools
we carry with us everyday everywhere to help us learn
(survive)":
they are our nose, mouth, eyes, ears, and hands  AND 
our heart and brain.  

As mot has evolved with me and my students---I have
come to realize that SCHEMA is the utmost important
element to develop with young readers---and everything
else falls into place---inferring, visualizing,
summarizing  etcI alway kept falling back to have
you ever tasted, or seen or remember how that
sounds---

So when I teach the concept of schemaI explained
to the children that schema is  every touch they have
madesmooth, hot, wet, dry, hard, prickly(see
the science in this!!!); every taste that has melted
on their tongue---sweet, buttery, sour, bitter, salty,
hot, cheetoee;
every image reflected in their eyes--sparkly, dull,
reds, yellows, straight, croooked, curvy; every sound
they have heard--loud, soft, screechy, drippy-droppy;
every smell that has wafted into ttheir
nose--popcorny, perfumy, orange, lemony, skunky,
manurey---;
then the heart--how they have felt---sad, scared,
unloved, cared about---and the brain--knowledge they
have aquired from someone else, as well as the brain
being always engaged to wonderI have to tell you
that kindergartners and first graders have  gotten
this much better that my summer school second graders,
but then again I only have them for 4 weeks.

And this  sounds like  CONNNECTIONSso let's get
back to the web

a center (the reader) and the seven radiating
cords---the first circular weave was the
wondering--the asking questions-why does it loook
that way?  why does it make that sound?  I wonder how
it feels?
Does it have a smell?  Why is she smiling???  It
really became much easier for the students to  ask
questions---because now they were connecting their
questions to their schema (and hopefully build to more
creative curiosity).

Anyway this is where we are at.  My plan is that next
week we will add the next weave which will probably be
visualization.  

During the regular year, I plan to spend way more time
on schema---particularly as it relates to our
"personal bag of tools" and really make the
connections to science---

I'll send pics of what we end up with at the end of
next week!!!

olga 
  


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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Daily Five

2007-07-12 Thread Lisa Szyska
Linda,
What, in your opinion, makes this "the most powerful?"
 How is it different from what you did before?

Thanks!
Lisa
2/3 IL

--- Linda Buice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I started using the Daily Five last year for
> independent reading.  I followed it exactly, and it
> was the MOST POWERFUL way to do independent reading.
>  It really works if you are careful to follow it. 



 

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Re: [MOSAIC] Combining comprehension strategies and basals

2007-07-12 Thread Lisa Szyska
3. THEN, look at the basal and any other texts to
determine where the stories would fit.
*
Yes, this is similar to what I do.  I use the stories
and components that fit my yearly plan.  An
anthology/basal can be a good resource if districts
don't mandate every lesson, and teachers have enough
knowledge of how to teach reading that they know how
to choose the appropriate stories/components. I
generally use the stories as part of my shared
reading, but even that isn't an absolute.

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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Hi Nancy,
Those are authentic situations and yes I would want to encourage those but
I think they come naturally out of a desire to read to someone or with someone.
Therefore, you'd want to do a good job and you'd pay attention to the way you
were reading.  Don't you think?  That's the kind of reading aloud I'd like to 
foster 
in the classroom.  But, I think to practice it as an activity for all 
children...Still 
wouldn't do that.
Elisa Waingort
Calgary, Canada


I am  strongly opposed
to having kids practice reading aloud because someday they  might have to do 
it in some class.


Elisa, 
Today I've been trying to think of times in life that people read out  loud. 
Maybe some others could come up with a list. The times I am thinking about  
are like when my husband or my girls and I read out loud to one another. Like 
we 
 find something really interesting in a book or newspaper and want to share  
it. Or what about reading out loud to your children? Wouldn't you want your  
students to be able to read well out loud to their own children if they have  
them? I'd be devastated if I couldn't read well to my grandkids.  I thought  
about in church, although I guess that is often done chorally. Can anyone else  
think of a time when it is necessary to read out loud and it would be a  
detriment or embarrassment to do it poorly?
 
Nancy   
 



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Re: [MOSAIC] 'Cool Salsa' poetry book

2007-07-12 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
I have a copy.  A friend gave it to me for a present a few years back.  
I've never been able to use it in the classroom, though.
Elisa Waingort
Calgary, Canada
 
In my searching for the books with the cd's of the authors reading their 
poems, I came across this book that looks fabulous.

Cool Salsa: Bilingual Poems on Growing Up Latino in the United States
www.amazon.com/Cool-Salsa-Lori-Carlson/dp/customer-reviews/044970436X

Poems are in Spanish and English.
Anyone know of it?
Ginger 



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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Mholley112
Nancy- believe it or not, I only had one or two kids who complained about  
reading each day. Of the other 12, most raced to see who could get to the table 
 
to be in first group. Unfortunately, DIBELS is considered very important in 
my  district. I personally think the whole program is flawed simply because of 
the  leveling of the passages. This means that I am held accountable for all 
the  benchmarking and progress monitoring that goes with the program. Which in 
turn  means that I do what it takes to help them get to where the district 
expects  them to be. I teach 3rd grade, which to me is an important year. The 
next year I  send them up where they will be expected to read more from text 
books for  information so I try to do as much as I can to get them ready.
 
I agree that it's ridiculous to expect all kids to be at the same level at  
the same time even if they are the same age. No one develops at the same level  
as everyone else. That's why I am just as excited about the progress that 
those  kids made who still remained in the lowest level on the assessment as I 
was  about those who made it into the highest level. They made progress and for 
those  particular kids, that was a big accomplishment. 
 
Cheryle



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Re: [MOSAIC] reading conferences

2007-07-12 Thread Olga Reynolds
Donna,  
welcome to the teaching profession and I wish you the
very best of luck---but having said that--luck is
really good planning.  YOU MUST MAKE THE TIME TO
CONFERENCE WITH STUDENTS---you have to plan it. 
Conferencing is not something you can do on the go
without prior planning.  You need to determine the why
and hows of your conferences and then schedule it into
your plans.
Happy planning!
olga
DO not give up your recess time or lunch time to do
conferencing!!!It is so  tempting to do
--- donna martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 how (when) do you find time to do
> this with every student?  
> Thats it, Thank You in advance for your help
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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread ljackson

I am thinking we sometimes read outloud to lend credibility to a position or a 
belief statement.  In doing so, failing to read 
well would simply defeat the purpose.

Lori

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:50:21 EDT , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

> 
>In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>I am  strongly opposed
>to having kids practice reading aloud because someday they  might have to do 
>it in some class.
>
>
>Elisa, 
>Today I've been trying to think of times in life that people read out  loud. 
>Maybe some others could come up with a list. The times I am thinking about  
>are like when my husband or my girls and I read out loud to one another. Like 
>we 
> find something really interesting in a book or newspaper and want to share  
>it. Or what about reading out loud to your children? Wouldn't you want your  
>students to be able to read well out loud to their own children if they have  
>them? I'd be devastated if I couldn't read well to my grandkids.  I thought  
>about in church, although I guess that is often done chorally. Can anyone else 
> 
>think of a time when it is necessary to read out loud and it would be a  
>detriment or embarrassment to do it poorly?
> 
>Nancy   
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Creecher12
 
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  strongly opposed
to having kids practice reading aloud because someday they  might have to do 
it in some class.


Elisa, 
Today I've been trying to think of times in life that people read out  loud. 
Maybe some others could come up with a list. The times I am thinking about  
are like when my husband or my girls and I read out loud to one another. Like 
we 
 find something really interesting in a book or newspaper and want to share  
it. Or what about reading out loud to your children? Wouldn't you want your  
students to be able to read well out loud to their own children if they have  
them? I'd be devastated if I couldn't read well to my grandkids.  I thought  
about in church, although I guess that is often done chorally. Can anyone else  
think of a time when it is necessary to read out loud and it would be a  
detriment or embarrassment to do it poorly?
 
Nancy   
 



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Re: [MOSAIC] reading conferences

2007-07-12 Thread ljackson
Hi, Donna,

I am a friend of Nancy's and this is a great question.  I know you will get 
lots of great responses.  For me, as a primary 
teacher, I found that scheduling an early choice reading time combined with 
running a conference table (which you would find 
described in On Solid Ground) each day, I was able to find to time to meet with 
my kids once a week.  However, the time isnot 
enough.  I needed to find a way to make sure that I did see every child every 
week.  For me, I created a conference table 
rotation that was color coded so that I knew that I needed to see four or five 
specific children on any given day.  Now beyond 
that, I have to say that you need to be flexible in your definition of 
conferencing.  For me, it meant that I tried to get a 
running record one or two times a month, more often for my strugglers.  It also 
meant, that a conversation about book 
choice, an invitation to share your reading log or a chance for me to name and 
notice specific behaviors and strategies that I 
noticed kids applying independently. For me a conference meant that I had a 
conversation around a strategy, behavior or 
simply a book.  Some were longer than others.

Lori

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>HI, Im one of the Wayne State students you were warned about.  This is my 
>last class, I do my student teaching this fall.  My question is:  Reading 
>conferences with students seem to be a very valuable tool for the teacher 
>and the student, how (when) do you find time to do this with every student?  
>Thats it, Thank You in advance for your help
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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Creecher12
 
In a message dated 7/12/2007 7:13:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I took  my kids who were in the Stategic and 
Intensive levels  of DIBELS  (those who did not meet the minimum number of 
WPM) and even some of  my  bilingual students. I recorded the short leveled 
readers that  came with our  Scott Foresman reading series at a very slow 
pace. I  
would put 4 or 5 students  at a round table with the headphones and  have 
them 
read with the tape twice each  day. It took about 20  minutes per group. I 
did 
this during our AR time (1 hour).  I sat at  the table with the kids to make 
sure 
they stayed on task while the   other kids were reading around the room. This 
way I was able to meet with  all my  groups while everyone else was busy. One 
little boy went from  48 WPM on the  first benchmark in August to 112 WPM in 
May. 
Several  others made great leaps as  well.


 
Cheryle, 
Please don't think I am trying to pick on you or anything, but I had this  
strange visualization when I read this. I don't know what grade these kids are, 
 
but I visualized all these one year olds on treadmills who couldn't walk yet 
and  speeding up the treadmill so many minutes per day until finally in May 
they  were walking ( leaping) at so many steps per minute. Are there kids that  
are just wired to read later? I hear so many stories of intelligent youngsters 
 who just learned to read later in life. I worry what we are doing to kids. 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] emotional response and comprehension

2007-07-12 Thread ljackson
I get the having of emotional responses, but had not linked it to imagery.

Lori

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> 
>Chris brings up a good point! I am looking for ways to bring the  
>comprehension strategies home to students with autism or on the autistic  
>spectrum. These 
>boys I am working with are somewhat limited in receptive and  expressive 
>language. They decode well, read at a good rate, but not fluently  because 
>they 
>have no expression and only literal comprehension. These kids also  have 
>trouble 
>with empathizing which is why they can't infer character's motives  or 
>feelings. I plan to try some of Tanny's concrete lessons that use objects and  
>graphic organizers. Anyone else have anything to share?
>Jennifer
>Maryland
>In a message dated 7/11/2007 9:29:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>But, I  have strong feelings about being able to identify 
>with the material...have  an emotional response...I think it is critical to 
>making meaning...and  certainly to inferring.
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Poetry Speaks to Children

2007-07-12 Thread jdelich

Yes, that is it! I went to B & N to look. It's about $15 there. N. Giovanni, B. 
Collins, Elise Paschen listed as editors with X.J. Kennedy.

It is really really good. It made me smile to see the cover. The authors will 
just put in the right tidbit sometimes about their poem. Not all the poems are 
on the CD though, and kids really wanted to hear some of those! The CD is 
really easy to navigate.

The other one is called A CHILD'S INTRODUCTION TO POETRY: LISTEN WHILE YOU 
LEARN ABOUT THE MAGIC... 
Michael Driscoll. I used it for just a couple poems. It's more didactic in how 
its put together & might appeal more to older learners??

I think there is one more but I don't see it at B &N which makes me question 
myself. If I discover it later I will share.  

John Delich

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>Not sure if this is one of the books John D. told us about but it has 
>authors reading their poems.
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Daily Five

2007-07-12 Thread Cathy Durham
How about fifth grade?

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> Hi Cathy,
>
> I don't have my book here, but I believe the Daily Five is for all levels, 
> including Kindergarten.
>
> Stenhouse Publishers say this "The Daily Five is a series of literacy 
> tasks (reading to self, reading with someone, writing, word work, and 
> listening to reading) which students complete daily while the teacher 
> meets with small groups or confers with individuals."
>
> One of the authors teaches a multi-age K - 2, so it is appropriate for 
> kindergarten.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread LIGATORS
Carol,
I would love a copy of this!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [MOSAIC] reading conferences

2007-07-12 Thread Mlredcon
 
How do you schedule reading conferences, guided reading, mini lessons  etc?  
How long is your reading workshop time?
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Re: [MOSAIC] reading conferences

2007-07-12 Thread Evans2429
I conference with my students during independent reading time (which is 
usually 20 minutes).  I try to get to 2 or 3 students each day.  Good luck with 
your student teaching!
Dollie/5th/GA   
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[MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Daily Five

2007-07-12 Thread Linda Buice
Hi Cathy,

I don't have my book here, but I believe the Daily Five is for all levels, 
including Kindergarten. 

Stenhouse Publishers say this "The Daily Five is a series of literacy tasks 
(reading to self, reading with someone, writing, word work, and listening to 
reading) which students complete daily while the teacher meets with small 
groups or confers with individuals."

One of the authors teaches a multi-age K - 2, so it is appropriate for 
kindergarten.

Linda
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Daily Five

2007-07-12 Thread Cathy Durham
For what grade levels would you say Daily Five is appropriate?


> Hi,
>
> I started using the Daily Five last year for independent reading.  I 
> followed it exactly, and it was the MOST POWERFUL way to do independent 
> reading.  It really works if you are careful to follow it.  It is not just 
> DEAR time, it builds stamina.  In the Mosaic 2, she talks about increasing 
> the time for independent reading each day.  It does build muscle memory 
> and certainly does work.  I could only use the reading portion last year, 
> but will use writing this year.  It is an easy book to follow and now they 
> have videos that I can't wait to view.  Also, there is a web site that 
> they have that is great.
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] 'Cool Salsa' poetry book

2007-07-12 Thread Lise
I have Cool Salsa.It's a nice little paperback book of poems. Gary Soto is 
very popular with my middle schoolers. I use it for both reading and writing 
minilessons in my classroom. I used to have a couple of copies, but they 
kept disappearing.

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Re: [MOSAIC] 'Cool Salsa' poetry book

2007-07-12 Thread carlsonca
I used it when I taught in the middle school. It is great! It was one of
the most popular books. If I remember correctly, the English version is on
one side and the spanish version is on the facing page.
Carol

> In my searching for the books with the cd's of the authors reading their
> poems, I came across this book that looks fabulous.
>
> Cool Salsa: Bilingual Poems on Growing Up Latino in the United States
> www.amazon.com/Cool-Salsa-Lori-Carlson/dp/customer-reviews/044970436X
>
> Poems are in Spanish and English.
> Anyone know of it?
> Ginger
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[MOSAIC] Poetry Speaks to Children

2007-07-12 Thread ginger/rob


Not sure if this is one of the books John D. told us about but it has 
authors reading their poems.
Ginger 



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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Mholley112
Stephanie, I have also used the Fluent Reader this past year. In New Mexico  
we have to use DIBELS. Our district has us do it K-3. They gave us palm pilots 
 with the tests on them so we can electronically assess the reading passages 
the  students read. Using information I got from this book and some other 
research I  read, I set up reading groups. I will say that I may not have gone 
strictly "by  the book" on this. I have a listening center that attaches to a 
tape player with  several headphones. I took my kids who were in the Stategic 
and 
Intensive levels  of DIBELS (those who did not meet the minimum number of 
WPM) and even some of my  bilingual students. I recorded the short leveled 
readers that came with our  Scott Foresman reading series at a very slow pace. 
I 
would put 4 or 5 students  at a round table with the headphones and have them 
read with the tape twice each  day. It took about 20 minutes per group. I did 
this during our AR time (1 hour).  I sat at the table with the kids to make 
sure 
they stayed on task while the  other kids were reading around the room. This 
way I was able to meet with all my  groups while everyone else was busy. One 
little boy went from 48 WPM on the  first benchmark in August to 112 WPM in 
May. 
Several others made great leaps as  well. Of course, I had three who, though 
they improved a lot, did not even make  the minimum for the middle of the year 
by the end of the year. But they did  improve.  This year I want to work on 
improving their comprehension as well  as their fluency- to make if more than 
separate pieces of the puzzle.
 
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[MOSAIC] 'Cool Salsa' poetry book

2007-07-12 Thread ginger/rob
In my searching for the books with the cd's of the authors reading their 
poems, I came across this book that looks fabulous.

Cool Salsa: Bilingual Poems on Growing Up Latino in the United States
www.amazon.com/Cool-Salsa-Lori-Carlson/dp/customer-reviews/044970436X

Poems are in Spanish and English.
Anyone know of it?
Ginger 



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Re: [MOSAIC] reading conferences

2007-07-12 Thread CNJPALMER
 
Donna
I set up a reading time where all the kids are occupied reading  silently for 
20-30 minutes. I set up a schedule to see 3-4 students each day and  meet 
with them briefly. In a few weeks time I see all my kids and over a marking  
period I see all of them a few times. 
We don't officially do reading workshop in my district, but I do my  
conferencing during SSR.
Jennifer
Maryland
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:38:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Reading  
conferences with students seem to be a very valuable tool for the teacher  
and the student, how (when) do you find time to do this with every  student?  
Thats it, Thank You in advance for your  help







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Re: [MOSAIC] Another mosaic: The reading-writing connection

2007-07-12 Thread Mholley112
Dolly, I have to say that we have been very fortunate in our school  library. 
New Mexico voters voted for funding for libraries in the state that  included 
school libraries. Plus our local district has given us chunks of money.  We 
have a really great librarian who asks for teacher input as to what books we  
want in our library. Our school does use the AR program, so of course she 
orders  the AR quizzes as well (from a different fund), but we now have a huge 
selection  of fiction as well as nonfiction material for our students. It 
always 
amazes me  that most of my students would rather pick a nonfiction book than a 
story. We've  also been given money in the past by our parent group, but not 
much in recent  years (new group of leaders).  
 
 



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[MOSAIC] reading conferences

2007-07-12 Thread donna martin
HI, Im one of the Wayne State students you were warned about.  This is my 
last class, I do my student teaching this fall.  My question is:  Reading 
conferences with students seem to be a very valuable tool for the teacher 
and the student, how (when) do you find time to do this with every student?  
Thats it, Thank You in advance for your help
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Re: [MOSAIC] emotional response and comprehension

2007-07-12 Thread CNJPALMER
 
Chris brings up a good point! I am looking for ways to bring the  
comprehension strategies home to students with autism or on the autistic  
spectrum. These 
boys I am working with are somewhat limited in receptive and  expressive 
language. They decode well, read at a good rate, but not fluently  because they 
have no expression and only literal comprehension. These kids also  have 
trouble 
with empathizing which is why they can't infer character's motives  or 
feelings. I plan to try some of Tanny's concrete lessons that use objects and  
graphic organizers. Anyone else have anything to share?
Jennifer
Maryland
In a message dated 7/11/2007 9:29:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But, I  have strong feelings about being able to identify 
with the material...have  an emotional response...I think it is critical to 
making meaning...and  certainly to inferring.

Christine







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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Hi Nancy,
This isn't Renee but I just had to jump in on this one.  I am not of the mind 
that we need
to "prepare" kids for activities that they may have to do some day in school.  
Unfortunately,
there are things that kids do in school that they never do outside of school.  
How many
book reports, dioramas, etc have you had to do outside of school?  I am 
strongly opposed
to having kids practice reading aloud because someday they might have to do it 
in some class. 
Did I say that already?  Having said that, if one of my students wants to read 
something aloud
to the class they must practice it first and then read it to me before reading 
it to the class.
Laborious reading aloud is very painful for everyone involved and really takes 
away from the
excitement the child may have had in the first place.  Also, because reading 
aloud is a performance
some kids just want that center stage and it isn't always a positive experience 
for anyone in the class.
Just my two cents. 
Elisa Waingort
Calgary, Canada


But I  don't assume that a poor oral reader is a poor silent  reader.



Renee, 
I've been thinking and thinking about this, and the importance of oral  
reading fluency. 
I agree that meaning is what it is all about, but it has also occurred to  me 
that throughout their education, students are going to encounter times when  
they have to read out loud. I understand that oral reading is a performance, 
but  I'm wondering if teaching students to read well orally out loud just for  
performance purposes, might be a life skill that people need. 
What do you think?
 
Nancy 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread Heather
Could all grades be posted to the group somehow or the links to them  
if there are some? I'd be interested in seeing these as well, if it  
is possible. Thanks. Heather

On 12-Jul-07, at 4:28 PM, mary hassell wrote:

> I would be interested in Grade 2 and 3.  And any suggestions you  
> have for a
> split grade.  Thanks in advance.  Mary
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> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol
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>
>> If you're willing/able to share, I would love a copy of the kinder  
>> plan.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michele
>> "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <[
>> mailto:mosaic@literacyworkshop.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>> writes:
>>
>>
>> Carol,
>> You said:
>> "NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages
>> identification of essential and important learning. Once that has
>> been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform
>> instruction and determine mastery.
>> I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which
>> does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they
>> mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so
>> many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "
>>
>> Could I get a copy of this?
>> gaylaintx/kinder
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[MOSAIC] Carol's grade level plans

2007-07-12 Thread ginger/rob
Carol will be sending me the suggested yearly grade level plans she wrote to 
be added to our TEACHING TOOLS page for us all to access at:
http://www.readinglady.com/mosaic/tools/tools.htm

I will announce when I have them uploaded.

Thank you Carol for sharing with us.
Ginger
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[MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Daily Five

2007-07-12 Thread Linda Buice
Hi,

I started using the Daily Five last year for independent reading.  I followed 
it exactly, and it was the MOST POWERFUL way to do independent reading.  It 
really works if you are careful to follow it.  It is not just DEAR time, it 
builds stamina.  In the Mosaic 2, she talks about increasing the time for 
independent reading each day.  It does build muscle memory and certainly does 
work.  I could only use the reading portion last year, but will use writing 
this year.  It is an easy book to follow and now they have videos that I can't 
wait to view.  Also, there is a web site that they have that is great.

Linda
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Project based learning

2007-07-12 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Hi Beverlee,
This listserv does not support attachments.  You have to do a cut and paste.
Elisa Waingort
Calgary, Canada

yes, it was all sites - I realized the attachment didn't go, so I resent.  
Please let me know if you still didn't receive


To Beverlee Paul,

I saw your post and was interested, but there wasn't an attachment.  Did you 
include some sites for Project Based Learning or units?

Thanks,
Linda
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Re: [MOSAIC] Mosaic Digest, Vol 11, Issue 19

2007-07-12 Thread Christine Halliday
In response to Heather @ the child who called words instead of reading.  One 
tool I've used is taping the student as s/he reads.  I used it to teach a 
family how I was coaching the student so that they could work at home.  
However, I wonder if it would "make clear" to a child what she was doing if 
she listened to the tape of herself as she was rereading the text.  This 
might lead to some interesting discussions!

To the folks who introduced "The PRoject Approach" topic on this listserve: 
Thank you!  I do projects in Social Studies, but am not as thorough as what 
is on this site.  Just as MOT, 2d ed has shown me, this site shows me how 
much more EXPLICIT I need to be in my teaching.  You folks are just a breath 
of fresh air!  Chris


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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread mary hassell
I would be interested in Grade 2 and 3.  And any suggestions you have for a 
split grade.  Thanks in advance.  Mary
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> If you're willing/able to share, I would love a copy of the kinder plan.
>
> Thanks,
> Michele
> "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <[ 
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>
> Carol,
> You said:
> "NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages
> identification of essential and important learning. Once that has
> been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform
> instruction and determine mastery.
> I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which
> does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they
> mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so
> many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "
>
> Could I get a copy of this?
> gaylaintx/kinder
> [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [MOSAIC] Daily 5 Success Stories?

2007-07-12 Thread Mary Helen Chappetto
Please keep this conversation open if you can!  I too, would like to hear 
about it as well!

Mary Helen
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> After reading through all of the posts these past few days, I purchased 
> The
> Daily 5 and zipped right through it!  I loved it and I can't wait to
> implement it from the beginning of the year this upcoming school year.  I 
> see it
> tying in so neatly to MOT!!!  :-)
>
> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has successfully used the The Daily 5 in
> the classroom and if you'd be willing to share the good, bad, and ugly 
> with
> me???
>
> Thank you in advance for your help!!
> Ali/FL
> 4th  Grade
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Re: [MOSAIC] Combining comprehension strategies and basals

2007-07-12 Thread Zoe Jackson
This is very helpful. Thanks!
Zoe
On Thursday, July 12, 2007, at 10:07  AM, Carol Carlson wrote:

> We use a basal in grades K-3.
> Some of the teachers in grades 1 and 2 would like to use the basal
> less frequently, but they are in teams and sometimes feel they must
> follow the team's curriculum.
> Here is what is recommended through team meetings, and any staff
> development I can get.
> 1. The curriculum is THE STRATEGIES, not the basal. We also have
> identified essential benchmarks and they all relate to at least one
> of the strategies, often several. The important curriculum is the
> remaining strategies and any skills outlined in our state standards.
> 2. During yearly planning, determine the order of the strategies.
> 3. THEN, look at the basal and any other texts to determine where the
> stories would fit.
> 4. Regularly use pre assessments to determine student's understanding
> of the strategies.
> NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages
> identification of essential and important learning. Once that has
> been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform
> instruction and determine mastery.
> I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which
> does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they
> mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so
> many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" Also, teachers in
> grades 4 through 6 did not have a common text. Now, they all have the
> Daybook from Great Source, but it doesn't go into enough depth on the
> reading strategies.
> Our district also has instructional facilitators in each building to
> help teams, model in classrooms, and work with teachers to
> differentiate the curriculum.
> Hope that helps.
> Carol
>
> On Jul 11, 2007, at 5:42 AM, Zoe Jackson wrote:
>
>> Although our faculty is familiar with teaching reading comprehension
>> through strategies, they are not yet practiced. The administration,
>> for
>> numerous reasons, ordered McGraw-Hill reading materials for us to
>> begin
>> using.  The money is spent.  The books are on the way.  Who of you
>> have
>> found ways to combine strategies and basal texts?  We DO have freedom
>> in the classroom to make choices in how and what we teach, but of
>> course, we will be expected to use the new texts in useful ways.
>> Eagerly awaiting your suggestions,
>> Zoe
>>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread Charlene
I would also like second included. 

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Kinder and First.
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To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:43 AM
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> What grade level?
> Carol
> On Jul 12, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Loyd or Gayla King wrote:
>
>> Carol,
>> You said:
>> "NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages
>> identification of essential and important learning. Once that has
>> been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform
>> instruction and determine mastery.
>> I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which
>> does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they
>> mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so
>> many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "
>>
>> Could I get a copy of this?
>> gaylaintx/kinder
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Project based learning

2007-07-12 Thread ljackson

Our listserv does not accept attachments.

Lori


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>yes, it was all sites - I realized the attachment didn't go, so I resent.  
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>To Beverlee Paul,
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>
>I saw your post and was interested, but there wasn't an attachment.  Did you 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread ljackson

Nancy,

I could buy that!  In fact, if we were to adddress oral fluency as an issue to 
be linked to our speaking and listening standards, 
you would have me in the palm of your hand.

Lori

P.S.  Where are, my friend?  Aren't you making WLU this year?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:48:58 EDT , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

> 
>In a message dated 7/12/2007 10:57:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>But I  don't assume that a poor oral reader is a poor silent  reader.
>
>
>
>Renee, 
>I've been thinking and thinking about this, and the importance of oral  
>reading fluency. 
>I agree that meaning is what it is all about, but it has also occurred to  me 
>that throughout their education, students are going to encounter times when  
>they have to read out loud. I understand that oral reading is a performance, 
>but  I'm wondering if teaching students to read well orally out loud just for  
>performance purposes, might be a life skill that people need. 
>What do you think?
> 
>Nancy 
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[MOSAIC] Daily 5 Success Stories?

2007-07-12 Thread Rascal570
Hi Everyone,
 
After reading through all of the posts these past few days, I purchased The  
Daily 5 and zipped right through it!  I loved it and I can't wait to  
implement it from the beginning of the year this upcoming school year.  I  see 
it 
tying in so neatly to MOT!!!  :-)
 
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has successfully used the The Daily 5 in  
the classroom and if you'd be willing to share the good, bad, and ugly with  
me???
 
Thank you in advance for your help!!
Ali/FL
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread j_leven
May I have one for second grade?


> Carol,  
> You said:
> "NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages  
> identification of essential and important learning. Once that has  
> been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform  
> instruction and determine mastery.
> I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which  
> does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they  
> mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so  
> many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "
> 
> Could I get a copy of this? 
> gaylaintx/kinder
> [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread A.Michele Paci
If you're willing/able to share, I would love a copy of the kinder plan.
 
Thanks,
Michele
"Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <[ 
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Carol,  
You said:
"NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages  
identification of essential and important learning. Once that has  
been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform  
instruction and determine mastery.
I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which  
does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they  
mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so  
many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "

Could I get a copy of this? 
gaylaintx/kinder
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread Loyd or Gayla King
Kinder and First.
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To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol


> What grade level?
> Carol
> On Jul 12, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Loyd or Gayla King wrote:
>
>> Carol,
>> You said:
>> "NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages
>> identification of essential and important learning. Once that has
>> been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform
>> instruction and determine mastery.
>> I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which
>> does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they
>> mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so
>> many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "
>>
>> Could I get a copy of this?
>> gaylaintx/kinder
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Renee
I absolutely do not disagree with this, Nancy.

On Jul 12, 2007, at 8:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> In a message dated 7/12/2007 10:57:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> But I  don't assume that a poor oral reader is a poor silent  reader.
>
>
>
> Renee,
> I've been thinking and thinking about this, and the importance of oral
> reading fluency.
> I agree that meaning is what it is all about, but it has also occurred 
> to  me
> that throughout their education, students are going to encounter times 
> when
> they have to read out loud. I understand that oral reading is a 
> performance,
> but  I'm wondering if teaching students to read well orally out loud 
> just for
> performance purposes, might be a life skill that people need.
> What do you think?
>
> Nancy

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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Creecher12
 
In a message dated 7/12/2007 10:57:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But I  don't assume that a poor oral reader is a poor silent  reader.



Renee, 
I've been thinking and thinking about this, and the importance of oral  
reading fluency. 
I agree that meaning is what it is all about, but it has also occurred to  me 
that throughout their education, students are going to encounter times when  
they have to read out loud. I understand that oral reading is a performance, 
but  I'm wondering if teaching students to read well orally out loud just for  
performance purposes, might be a life skill that people need. 
What do you think?
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread Carol Carlson
What grade level?
Carol
On Jul 12, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Loyd or Gayla King wrote:

> Carol,
> You said:
> "NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages
> identification of essential and important learning. Once that has
> been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform
> instruction and determine mastery.
> I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which
> does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they
> mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so
> many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "
>
> Could I get a copy of this?
> gaylaintx/kinder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[MOSAIC] Question for Carol

2007-07-12 Thread Loyd or Gayla King
Carol,  
You said:
"NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages  
identification of essential and important learning. Once that has  
been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform  
instruction and determine mastery.
I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which  
does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they  
mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so  
many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" "

Could I get a copy of this? 
gaylaintx/kinder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [MOSAIC] Combining comprehension strategies and basals

2007-07-12 Thread Carol Carlson
We use a basal in grades K-3.
Some of the teachers in grades 1 and 2 would like to use the basal  
less frequently, but they are in teams and sometimes feel they must  
follow the team's curriculum.
Here is what is recommended through team meetings, and any staff  
development I can get.
1. The curriculum is THE STRATEGIES, not the basal. We also have  
identified essential benchmarks and they all relate to at least one  
of the strategies, often several. The important curriculum is the  
remaining strategies and any skills outlined in our state standards.
2. During yearly planning, determine the order of the strategies.
3. THEN, look at the basal and any other texts to determine where the  
stories would fit.
4. Regularly use pre assessments to determine student's understanding  
of the strategies.
NOTE: our district has participated in a consortium that encourages  
identification of essential and important learning. Once that has  
been identified, use formative and summative assessments to inform  
instruction and determine mastery.
I have prepared a suggested yearly plan for each grade level which  
does this. Teachers use it in planning, but, in no way, are they  
mandated to follow it to the letter. I prepared them because I had so  
many teachers asking "How do we fit everything in?" Also, teachers in  
grades 4 through 6 did not have a common text. Now, they all have the  
Daybook from Great Source, but it doesn't go into enough depth on the  
reading strategies.
Our district also has instructional facilitators in each building to  
help teams, model in classrooms, and work with teachers to  
differentiate the curriculum.
Hope that helps.
Carol

On Jul 11, 2007, at 5:42 AM, Zoe Jackson wrote:

> Although our faculty is familiar with teaching reading comprehension
> through strategies, they are not yet practiced. The administration,  
> for
> numerous reasons, ordered McGraw-Hill reading materials for us to  
> begin
> using.  The money is spent.  The books are on the way.  Who of you  
> have
> found ways to combine strategies and basal texts?  We DO have freedom
> in the classroom to make choices in how and what we teach, but of
> course, we will be expected to use the new texts in useful ways.
> Eagerly awaiting your suggestions,
> Zoe
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Tim

2007-07-12 Thread Renee

On Jul 11, 2007, at 6:32 PM, RASINSKI, TIMOTHY wrote:

> Renee:   I admire your focus on comprehension.  However, if you have a 
> student who is having difficulty comprehending, how do you determine 
> the source of the difficulty?
>  . snip..
> Without knowing the source of the difficulty,  instruction to meet the 
> source of the difficulty is a challenge at best.

I never said I don't look for the source of the difficulty. What I said 
is that I don't use oral reading skills to assess silent reading 
skills. If a student has a reasonable sense of what he is reading but 
is not a great oral reader, I do not assume that he/she is not a good 
silent reader. If a student cannot reasonably discuss what he/she read, 
then I would have him/her read to me to see what I could find out.

But I don't assume that a poor oral reader is a poor silent reader.

Here is what I said:

> I have never used oral reading skills to assess silent reading. In
> fact, I don't "assess" silent reading in the first place. What I assess
> is comprehension. If I am required to give students a "score" or
> "grade" for fluency or other reading skills/tools, I do it, but not by
> choice.
>
> To me, reading is making meaning. Making meaning is exemplified by how
> well a student is able to discuss or write about what he or she has
> read.

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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Project based learning

2007-07-12 Thread Beverlee Paul
yes, it was all sites - I realized the attachment didn't go, so I resent.  
Please let me know if you still didn't receive



To Beverlee Paul,

I saw your post and was interested, but there wasn't an attachment.  Did you 
include some sites for Project Based Learning or units?


Thanks,
Linda
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Re: [MOSAIC] project based learning

2007-07-12 Thread Creecher12
Mary Helen, 
Are you talking about inquiry? 
"The Project Approach" as it is espoused by Lilian Katz, Sylvia Chard and  
Judy Helm?
It does really tie into Mosaic, because it is a way of learning that  
stretches children's thinking and encourages them to wonder. 
Here are some sites you might try. 
_http://ceep.crc.uiuc.edu/poptopics/project.html_ 
(http://ceep.crc.uiuc.edu/poptopics/project.html) 
 
_http://www.projectapproach.org/_ (http://www.projectapproach.org/) 
 
I've been to their institute in Allerton and it is INCREDIBLE!
They also have a listserv, but it isn't very active. 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] help with spelling

2007-07-12 Thread Linda Lavoie
Hi Judy, I would be interested in reading your work [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I
am wondering how teachers work with the disconnect between 'fluent readers'
at grade level, but who struggle with spelling in their written language. My
experience indicates that this is a real problem for many teachers. Some,
not all teachers are confused about where to place these students or if they
should even be placed in a spelling program.

On 7/11/07, Judy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Rosa,
>
>
>
> I teach second grade and I am also an adjunct instructor at Appalachian
> State U..  I have written an article about my spelling program along with
> Dr. Darrell Morris, director of the ASU reading clinic.  I would be glad
> to
> email it to you if would like.  We presented it at the IRA convention last
> year in Chicago.  I assess my students at the beginning of the year in
> spelling.  I then place them into spelling groups.  I use a developmental
> spelling program that meets their needs through word study activities.
> Words Their Way is also a good resource, if you know something about
> sorting
> words.
>
>
>
> Judy
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Re: [MOSAIC] Combining comprehension strategies and basals

2007-07-12 Thread jdelich



>You have to be kidding about the cart.

I have to provide the "other side" that makes district people do CRAZY things 
like this. When I was supporting teachers in their classrooms we'd run across a 
teacher in some schools who had kept every piece of an old basal series for 
their grade level, and that's what they were using-in the same ways they always 
did. They LIKED it and they had taught kids to read with it for years. Of 
course if a child couldn't already read the stories the teacher wanted them 
tested, too. I am talking a 1980 copyright of Macmillan maybe. JUST THINK how 
crazy this drives a Language Arts Coordinator under the gun to raise test 
scores, and trying to balance the use of basal and develop a workshop approach 
too. What happens? The Language Arts coordinator gives up and mandates programs.

Don't get me wrong-I think collecting books from classrooms and sending books 
home with teachers should be treated the same as Malpractice in the field of 
medicine. It boils down to a great deal of distrust for teachers in varying 
degrees at all different levels in our profession, and some of it is warranted. 
I have been there. 

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Re: [MOSAIC] Repeated Readings for Fluency - Question for Elaineand Tim

2007-07-12 Thread jdelich
reading with no expression, no stopping for periods, commas, etc. 

>You know, as Tim has suggested-- how about poetry, 

Poetry has worked all kinds of wonders for all different kinds of students in 
my classrooms. As Patricia Cunningham used to say about her word work 
activities, poetry the way I use it is "multi-level." There are some poems that 
just refuse to be read without prosody & comprehension. Most recently I've 
discovered 2 or 3 really good new collections of poetry selected for children 
with CDs inside the cover. (I left all three at school though.They are 
hardbound, but I don't know any citations.) 

In at least one of these collections the poems are read by the poets 
themselves. I quickly copy the individual poems we use each day for every 
child.  I can remember a couple BROTHER & RABBIT, both by Mary Ann Hoberman; 
SNEEZE by Maxine Kumin;  TRIPS by Nikki Giovanni; WOLF by Billy Collins; and 
GOOD HOT DOGS by Sandra Cisneros. 

Some years I've had up to 4-5 boys try to "out-nasty" each other by performing 
NASTY LITTLE DRAGONSONG-I think it might be by Jack Prelutsky.

Sara Holbrook's books on performance poetry really appeal to both boys and 
girls. Her poems STEAMED and A CHOICE really get a variety of kids wound up. 
And,  there are a few poets that really appeal to 8 -11 year-olds, like James 
Stevenson, Brod Bagert, and Douglas Florian. 

I keep it really simple. The poem is at each spot when the kids arrive. They 
know to read it sometime before reading workshop begins in their Read Around 
time. To be able to take a turn reading it aloud they know they have to have 
read it at least twice. When I get to the poem I first ask if anybody wants to 
clarify any words or ideas. By then at least one student is absolutely beside 
themselves to be the first to read it aloud. The hard part is cutting off the 
reading! Every morning is different. I usually don't decide on a poem until 
before school depending on what's been going on the day before. Some years we 
do a very low key family performance after several weeks of being immersed in 
poetry of all kinds. Everyone wants to memorize at least one poem.

You have to be patient to see and hear the prosody carry over to the reading of 
the kids you all are all talking about, but it happens! I highly recommend 
getting  a collection and have the child listen to the poets read their poems, 
too.

John D.
 

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[MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Project based learning

2007-07-12 Thread Linda Buice
To Beverlee Paul,

I saw your post and was interested, but there wasn't an attachment.  Did you 
include some sites for Project Based Learning or units?

Thanks,
Linda
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Re: [MOSAIC] Need Chapter By Chapter Synopses

2007-07-12 Thread ljackson
Ask a high school student.;-)

Lori

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:57:33 EDT , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

>Hi all,
> 
>I like to run novel discussion groups in my sixth grade class. However it  
>can be hard to keep up with the plot details when dealing with several 
>different 
> novels going on simultaneously. Even though I have read most of the books I  
>offer as choices for kids, I do tend to forget some of the plot points. Can  
>anyone recommend a web site that teachers use which summarizes young adult 
>novel  plot points chapter by chapter? 
> 
>
>Thanks in advance!
> 
>Kelly W
>6th Grade/CT
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