Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-17 Thread Palmer, Jennifer
No. I don't get that impression at all... Though they do want us to synthesize 
across texts... Which might include a novel, a poem and a movie for example. 

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On May 17, 2013, at 9:37 PM, "wr...@centurytel.net"  
wrote:

> 
> I have just learned that with the CCSS, there is an emphasis on reading 
> excerpts.  Do others of you have that impression for the middle school?  I 
> think there is something completely different about reading an entire novel.  
> I object to a class activity that encourages reading just a chapter (or 
> worse, just a page) out of a novel.  I think that might be part of the 
> reading less and doing skills more that you mention, Renee. 
> (I am not talking about students sampling books to decide what to read.  I am 
> talking about an attitude that people should only read a few pages out of a 
> novel.)
> 
> 
>> 
>> As a sub in many different classes these days, I see kids actually
>> reading less and less and less, and "doing skills" more and more and
>> more. I would propose that this is one of the problems. 
>> Renee
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-17 Thread write


I have just learned that with the CCSS, there is an emphasis on reading 
excerpts.  Do others of you have that impression for the middle school? 
 I think there is something completely different about reading an 
entire novel.  I object to a class activity that encourages reading 
just a chapter (or worse, just a page) out of a novel.  I think that 
might be part of the reading less and doing skills more that you 
mention, Renee. 

(I am not talking about students sampling books to decide what to read. 
 I am talking about an attitude that people should only read a few 
pages out of a novel.)





As a sub in many different classes these days, I see kids actually
reading less and less and less, and "doing skills" more and more and
more. I would propose that this is one of the problems. 


Renee




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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-17 Thread Renee G

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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and 
kids with
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they 
reach the
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills 
themselves.
I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at 
grade

level, our job is done as there is no problem.


I guess I came off as saying that "our job is done" when asked what the 
problem is if she is comprehending well. I certainly did not mean that 
we just let all learning/teaching drop as a result. The thing that 
bothered me was the assertion that this student's decoding difficulties 
were keeping her from moving forward, which I interpreted as possibly 
meaning she would not pass her grade, or would not be allowed to read 
"more difficult" books, or would get a bad grade in reading/language 
arts, all because of low decoding scores and these are ALL things 
that are happening these days, including kindergartners being labeled 
below proficient because they do not do well on DIBELS' nonsense word 
decoding, even if they are already reading actual books. That's just 
simply absurd, in my humble opinion, and is the result of too many 
people including teachers... giving decoding the highest priority, 
when comprehension should be the highest priority.


So I do need to come back to comprehension, which is the key here, and 
I admit that I made some assumptions that may not be true. If in fact 
this student is getting most of her information from oral discussions 
rather than from her own reading, that is something to know. However, 
that is not how I read the original post. That's why I asked what 
happens when she is faced with completely unfamiliar text. And that 
question was never answered.


All of the "below" observations are true, and many students do fall 
into cracks, for many reasons. I would propose that scripted programs, 
crowded classrooms, family stress, poverty, and lots of other things 
contribute to that crack-falling-into. As for remediation, I have never 
understood why so many thing that more of the same is what these 
students need.


As a sub in many different classes these days, I see kids actually 
reading less and less and less, and "doing skills" more and more and 
more. I would propose that this is one of the problems.


Renee

Working in a high school, I run into at least a kid or two every year 
that fits

a profile similar to this and has seemed to slip through the cracks.
Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades have generally 
noticed the same
weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them because of a child's 
overall
academic performance at the time.  Once these kids get to high school, 
it is

VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps.
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great.
Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so 
AVOIDANCE
skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to 
know"
about a  novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually 
reading,
does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements in 
the common
core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does help you 
pass .
Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient than actually 
learning the
skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes back to bite them 
and they
need to nail down the skills.  Doing so at the high school level has 
to be very
much so more individualized than at lower grades because they have all 
found
unique ways around skills so one must find unique ways to slide in 
appropriate
strategies.  Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak skills are 
identified but are

not severely impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we provide this
preventative support in light of the fact that there are plenty of 
"right now"

issues in any given classroom.

Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

"Always show the you in you that makes you who you are." - Chidinma 
Obietikponah



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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-17 Thread Mena

The DSM was recently updates after years! People with dyslexia also were 
closely watching for the update. Many with the reading disorder did not want 
their diagnosis dropped, and it will not be. Instead, the new manual will have 
a broader learning disorder category to cover several conditions including 
dyslexia, which causes difficulty understanding letters and recognizing written 
words.
The shorthand name for the new edition, the organization's fifth revision of 
the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, is DSM-5. Group leaders say specifics 
will not be disclosed until the manual is published but they confirmed some 
changes. A 2000 edition of the manual made minor changes but the last major 
edition was published in 1994.
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
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College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
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Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

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From: Foltermann, Marsha 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


Very well said!

Mrs. Marsha Foltermann, M.Ed.
6th grade, Reading
903-462-7307
For a conference, please call the office:  903-462-7200
Available for conferences: 12:00-12:45
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heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:04 AM
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids with 
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they reach the 
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills themselves.  
I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at grade 
level, our job is done as there is no problem. 
Working in a high school, I run into at least a kid or two every year that fits 
a profile similar to this and has seemed to slip through the cracks. 
Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades have generally noticed the 
same 
weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them because of a child's overall 
academic performance at the time.  Once these kids get to high school, it is 
VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps. 
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great. 
Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so AVOIDANCE 
skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to know" 
about a  novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually reading, 
does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements in the common 
core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does help you pass .  
Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient than actually learning 
the 
skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes back to bite them and they 
need to nail down the skills.  Doing so at the high school level has to be very 
much so more individualized than at lower grades because they have all found 
unique ways around skills so one must find unique ways to slide in appropriate 
strategies.  Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak skills are identified but 
are 
not severely impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we provide this 
preventative support in light of the fact that there are plenty of "right now" 
issues in any given classroom.

Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Foltermann, Marsha
Very well said!

Mrs. Marsha Foltermann, M.Ed.
6th grade, Reading
903-462-7307
For a conference, please call the office:  903-462-7200
Available for conferences: 12:00-12:45
mfolterm...@denisonisd.net

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heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:04 AM
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids with 
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they reach the 
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills themselves.  
I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at grade 
level, our job is done as there is no problem. 
Working in a high school, I run into at least a kid or two every year that fits 
a profile similar to this and has seemed to slip through the cracks. 
Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades have generally noticed the 
same weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them because of a child's overall 
academic performance at the time.  Once these kids get to high school, it is 
VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps. 
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great. 
Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so AVOIDANCE 
skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to know" 
about a  novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually reading, 
does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements in the common 
core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does help you pass .  
Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient than actually learning 
the skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes back to bite them and 
they need to nail down the skills.  Doing so at the high school level has to be 
very much so more individualized than at lower grades because they have all 
found unique ways around skills so one must find unique ways to slide in 
appropriate strategies.  Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak skills are 
identified but are not severely impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we 
provide this preventative support in light of the fact that there are plenty of 
"right now" issues in any given classroom.

Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Mena
To truly understand you need to watch any Richard Lavoie youtube on the 
difficult student with LD have with processing.
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
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College of Education
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Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

-Original Message-
From: Heather_Waymouth 
To: mosaic 
Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia


I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids with 
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they reach the 
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills themselves. 
I 
am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at grade 
level, 
our job is done as there is no problem. Working in a high school, I run into at 
least a kid or two every year that fits a profile similar to this and has 
seemed 
to slip through the cracks. Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades 
have generally noticed the same weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them 
because of a child's overall academic performance at the time. Once these kids 
get to high school, it is VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps. 
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great. 
Generally, 
however, what I find is that these skills are more so AVOIDANCE skills rather 
than coping skills - gathering everythin
 g you "need to know" about a novel through listening to classroom discussion, 
not actually reading, does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading 
requirements in the common core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but 
it does help you pass . Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient 
than actually learning the skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes 
back to bite them and they need to nail down the skills. Doing so at the high 
school level has to be very much so more individualized than at lower grades 
because they have all found unique ways around skills so one must find unique 
ways to slide in appropriate strategies. Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak 
skills are identified but are not severely impacting a kid's success, I do 
wonder how we provide this preventative support in light of the fact that there 
are plenty of "right now" issues in any given classroom.


Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Heather_Waymouth
I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids with 
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they reach the 
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills themselves. 
I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at grade 
level, our job is done as there is no problem. Working in a high school, I run 
into at least a kid or two every year that fits a profile similar to this and 
has seemed to slip through the cracks. Yet, I realize that teachers in the 
lower grades have generally noticed the same weaknesses I see, but do not 
remediate them because of a child's overall academic performance at the time. 
Once these kids get to high school, it is VERY HARD to go back and fill these 
basic skill gaps. They've learned many coping strategies independently, which 
is great. Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so 
AVOIDANCE skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to 
know" about a novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually 
reading, does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements in 
the common core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does help you 
pass . Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient than actually 
learning the skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes back to bite 
them and they need to nail down the skills. Doing so at the high school level 
has to be very much so more individualized than at lower grades because they 
have all found unique ways around skills so one must find unique ways to slide 
in appropriate strategies. Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak skills are 
identified but are not severely impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we 
provide this preventative support in light of the fact that there are plenty of 
"right now" issues in any given classroom.


Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Heather_Waymouth
I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids 
with this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they 
reach the secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the 
skills themselves.  I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid 
can comprehend at grade level, our job is done as there is no problem. 
Working in a high school, I run into at least a kid or two every year that 
fits a profile similar to this and has seemed to slip through the cracks. 
Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades have generally noticed 
the same weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them because of a child's 
overall academic performance at the time.  Once these kids get to high 
school, it is VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps. 
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great. 
Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so AVOIDANCE 
skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to know" 
about a  novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually 
reading, does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements 
in the common core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does 
help you pass .  Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient 
than actually learning the skill, yet there's always a point at which it 
comes back to bite them and they need to nail down the skills.  Doing so 
at the high school level has to be very much so more individualized than 
at lower grades because they have all found unique ways around skills so 
one must find unique ways to slide in appropriate strategies.  Yet, in 
earlier grades, if these weak skills are identified but are not severely 
impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we provide this preventative 
support in light of the fact that there are plenty of "right now" issues 
in any given classroom.

Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-15 Thread Ellen Stein
You mention 2 terrific ideas:

1. One on one - the most marvelous strategy
2. Colored cellophane.

We worked with a dyslexic youngster in small groups from second to fourth
grade with some small successes. By fifth grade we were able to give her one
on one instruction for her reading one hour a day. The gains were fabulous.
In the later part of the year, I added the colored cellophane. The blue tint
worked best for her. 

These two aids moved her forward so much that her success fueled her desire
and she was reading in grade level (her listening comprehension was always 3
grade levels above her reading ability) by the end of fifth grade.. 

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From: Mosaic [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of Mena
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:42 PM
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

a book you might be interested in..Irlen Institute Scotopic Sensitivity
Syndrome 
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

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From: jkdamouras 
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Sent: Wed, May 15, 2013 11:45 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


Not sure if anyone mentioned this. I worked with a dyslexic 6th grader one
year 1-1 for a part of each day. I found using colored cellaphane as an
overlay for whatever she was reading helped a lot. You do have to try
different colors to find the one that works best for a particular child. 
I have tried this with other students who were really struggling since then
and some have really liked it.
We also did  a stop ladder spelling strategy to help learn pariticular grade
level words. so that we would write the 1st letter of a word, then below
that the 1st and 2nd, then below that the 1st and 2nd and 3rd, and so on.
This is more of a spelling strategy, but again, it has worked with others,
including my own child, when struggling with spelling.

so, just a couple of small ideas.
-kay


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Troy F wrote:

> You can debate all you want who can diagnose it. I am not the girls 
> teacher, but a Reading Specialist. I can diagnose her with dyslexia 
> myself. She defiantly has processing issues, not phonics issues. There 
> are many forms and variations of dyslexia. Dyslexia is not an issue 
> off a student simply not knowing her letters and sounds. This students 
> concerns are more with processing. I was just wanting suggestions of 
> things to try. She is now just this week in the process of being 
> tested to receive services for learning disabilities. Although since 
> dyslexia is technically a medical problem my district and lots of 
> others do not offilciIly diagnose it themselves or qualify student for 
> services because of it. I will contact some of you off the list who 
> have offered to help and have fave ideas. I have some of my own and 
> just wanted to hear what others have done, thanks for the input.
> Keep any suggestions coming.
>
> Troy Fredde
>
> On May 14, 2013, at 6:22 PM, wr...@centurytel.net wrote:
>
>> If doctors can diagnose ADHD, why do they send questionnaires to the 
>> school for the teachers to fill out?  The questions have nothing to
>> do with health (according to my not-medically-trained mind).   The 
>> questions have to do with behavior.  As far as I can tell, in my 
>> state, doctors do not make the diagnosis, teachers do.
>> Quoting Beverlee paul :
>>> I'd like to see it as well. Again, pediatricians do not have 
>>> training in med school or residency to diagnose an educational issue 
>>> such as dyslexia. They do have training and are able to diagnose 
>>> ADHD, but that's not an educational issue; it's a physical issue. 
>>> "Literature is the act that breaks the
>>> frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mena  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am fascinated by this diagnosis. I would love to see the data 
>>>> that was
>>> collected and learn what instrument was used to diagnosis this 
>>> student as being dyslexic. >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D. > Florida Atlantic University Dept. of 
>>>> Teaching and Learning College of Education
>>>> 2912 College Ave. ES 214
>>>> Davie, FL  33314
>>>> Phone:  954-236-1070
>>>> Fax:  954-236-1050
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Beverlee paul 
>>>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategi

Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-15 Thread Mena
a book you might be interested in..Irlen Institute Scotopic Sensitivity 
Syndrome 
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

-Original Message-
From: jkdamouras 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Wed, May 15, 2013 11:45 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


Not sure if anyone mentioned this. I worked with a dyslexic 6th grader 
one year 1-1 for a part of each day. I found using colored cellaphane as 
an overlay for whatever she was reading helped a lot. You do have to try 
different colors to find the one that works best for a particular child. 
I have tried this with other students who were really struggling since 
then and some have really liked it.
We also did  a stop ladder spelling strategy to help learn pariticular 
grade level words. so that we would write the 1st letter of a word, then 
below that the 1st and 2nd, then below that the 1st and 2nd and 3rd, and 
so on. This is more of a spelling strategy, but again, it has worked 
with others, including my own child, when struggling with spelling.

so, just a couple of small ideas.
-kay


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Troy F wrote:

> You can debate all you want who can diagnose it. I am not the girls 
> teacher, but a Reading Specialist. I can diagnose her with dyslexia 
> myself. She defiantly has processing issues, not phonics issues. There 
> are many forms and variations of dyslexia. Dyslexia is not an issue 
> off a student simply not knowing her letters and sounds. This students 
> concerns are more with processing. I was just wanting suggestions of 
> things to try. She is now just this week in the process of being 
> tested to receive services for learning disabilities. Although since 
> dyslexia is technically a medical problem my district and lots of 
> others do not offilciIly diagnose it themselves or qualify student for 
> services because of it. I will contact some of you off the list who 
> have offered to help and have fave ideas. I have some of my own and 
> just wanted to hear what others have done, thanks for the input.
> Keep any suggestions coming.
>
> Troy Fredde
>
> On May 14, 2013, at 6:22 PM, wr...@centurytel.net wrote:
>
>> If doctors can diagnose ADHD, why do they send questionnaires to the 
>> school for the teachers to fill out?  The questions have nothing to 
>> do with health (according to my not-medically-trained mind).   The 
>> questions have to do with behavior.  As far as I can tell, in my 
>> state, doctors do not make the diagnosis, teachers do.
>> Quoting Beverlee paul :
>>> I'd like to see it as well. Again, pediatricians do not have 
>>> training in med
>>> school or residency to diagnose an educational issue such as 
>>> dyslexia. They do
>>> have training and are able to diagnose ADHD, but that's not an 
>>> educational
>>> issue; it's a physical issue. "Literature is the act that breaks the 
>>> frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mena  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am fascinated by this diagnosis. I would love to see the data 
>>>> that was
>>> collected and learn what instrument was used to diagnosis this 
>>> student as being
>>> dyslexic. >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D. > Florida Atlantic University
>>>> Dept. of Teaching and Learning
>>>> College of Education
>>>> 2912 College Ave. ES 214
>>>> Davie, FL  33314
>>>> Phone:  954-236-1070
>>>> Fax:  954-236-1050
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Beverlee paul 
>>>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
>>> 
>>>> Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 9:23 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pediatricians are not trained to diagnose dyslexia. They have no 
>>>> education in
>>>> that area. >
>>>> "Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us." 
>>>> Franz Kafka
>>>>
>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Troy F  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She 
>>>>> can infer and
>>>> thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is 
>>>> her
>>> decoding
>>>> that keep

Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-15 Thread jkdamouras
Not sure if anyone mentioned this. I worked with a dyslexic 6th grader 
one year 1-1 for a part of each day. I found using colored cellaphane as 
an overlay for whatever she was reading helped a lot. You do have to try 
different colors to find the one that works best for a particular child. 
I have tried this with other students who were really struggling since 
then and some have really liked it.
We also did  a stop ladder spelling strategy to help learn pariticular 
grade level words. so that we would write the 1st letter of a word, then 
below that the 1st and 2nd, then below that the 1st and 2nd and 3rd, and 
so on. This is more of a spelling strategy, but again, it has worked 
with others, including my own child, when struggling with spelling.


so, just a couple of small ideas.
-kay


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Troy F wrote:

You can debate all you want who can diagnose it. I am not the girls 
teacher, but a Reading Specialist. I can diagnose her with dyslexia 
myself. She defiantly has processing issues, not phonics issues. There 
are many forms and variations of dyslexia. Dyslexia is not an issue 
off a student simply not knowing her letters and sounds. This students 
concerns are more with processing. I was just wanting suggestions of 
things to try. She is now just this week in the process of being 
tested to receive services for learning disabilities. Although since 
dyslexia is technically a medical problem my district and lots of 
others do not offilciIly diagnose it themselves or qualify student for 
services because of it. I will contact some of you off the list who 
have offered to help and have fave ideas. I have some of my own and 
just wanted to hear what others have done, thanks for the input.

Keep any suggestions coming.

Troy Fredde

On May 14, 2013, at 6:22 PM, wr...@centurytel.net wrote:

If doctors can diagnose ADHD, why do they send questionnaires to the 
school for the teachers to fill out?  The questions have nothing to 
do with health (according to my not-medically-trained mind).   The 
questions have to do with behavior.  As far as I can tell, in my 
state, doctors do not make the diagnosis, teachers do.

Quoting Beverlee paul :
I'd like to see it as well. Again, pediatricians do not have 
training in med
school or residency to diagnose an educational issue such as 
dyslexia. They do
have training and are able to diagnose ADHD, but that's not an 
educational
issue; it's a physical issue. "Literature is the act that breaks the 
frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka


On May 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mena  wrote:

I am fascinated by this diagnosis. I would love to see the data 
that was
collected and learn what instrument was used to diagnosis this 
student as being

dyslexic. >




Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D. > Florida Atlantic University
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050




-Original Message-
From: Beverlee paul 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group



Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 9:23 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


Pediatricians are not trained to diagnose dyslexia. They have no 
education in

that area. >
"Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us." 
Franz Kafka


On May 12, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Troy F  wrote:

This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She 
can infer and
thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is 
her

decoding
that keeps her from moving forward. She often struggles with the 
more common

HF
words. Her oral comprehension is well above grade level. Which 
means when read
to. She has a strong vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even 
when
mispronouncing them, which hinders her from really learning the 
word. She
struggles with breaking words apart and putting them back together 
and will

read
words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her 
processing
problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text orally, 
but she did
pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the process of being 
identified
right now for special services. >> Most of the time it is just the 
family pediatrician that diagnoses it. >>

Troy Fredde

On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte 
 wrote:


I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade 
level, then how
can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about 
decoding,
well. decoding is just one element of the reading process, and 
apparently

one that is not hindering her. >>>

Seems to me like there is no problem here. >>> Renee



From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group



Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with 
dyslexia. She
has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with he

Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-14 Thread Troy F
You can debate all you want who can diagnose it. I am not the girls teacher, 
but a Reading Specialist. I can diagnose her with dyslexia myself. She 
defiantly has processing issues, not phonics issues. There are many forms and 
variations of dyslexia. Dyslexia is not an issue off a student simply not 
knowing her letters and sounds. This students concerns are more with 
processing. I was just wanting suggestions of things to try. She is now just 
this week in the process of being tested to receive services for learning 
disabilities. Although since dyslexia is technically a medical problem my 
district and lots of others do not offilciIly diagnose it themselves or qualify 
student for services because of it. I will contact some of you off the list who 
have offered to help and have fave ideas. I have some of my own and just wanted 
to hear what others have done, thanks for the input.
Keep any suggestions coming.

Troy Fredde

On May 14, 2013, at 6:22 PM, wr...@centurytel.net wrote:

> If doctors can diagnose ADHD, why do they send questionnaires to the school 
> for the teachers to fill out?  The questions have nothing to do with health 
> (according to my not-medically-trained mind).   The questions have to do with 
> behavior.  As far as I can tell, in my state, doctors do not make the 
> diagnosis, teachers do. 
> 
> Quoting Beverlee paul :
>> I'd like to see it as well. Again, pediatricians do not have training in med
>> school or residency to diagnose an educational issue such as dyslexia. They 
>> do
>> have training and are able to diagnose ADHD, but that's not an educational
>> issue; it's a physical issue. 
>> "Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka
>> 
>> On May 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mena  wrote:
>> 
>> > I am fascinated by this diagnosis. I would love to see the data that was
>> collected and learn what instrument was used to diagnosis this student as 
>> being
>> dyslexic. >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D. > Florida Atlantic University
>> > Dept. of Teaching and Learning
>> > College of Education
>> > 2912 College Ave. ES 214
>> > Davie, FL  33314
>> > Phone:  954-236-1070
>> > Fax:  954-236-1050
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Beverlee paul 
>> > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
>> 
>> > Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 9:23 am
>> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>> >
>> >
>> > Pediatricians are not trained to diagnose dyslexia. They have no education 
>> > in
>> > that area. >
>> > "Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka
>> >
>> > On May 12, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Troy F  wrote:
>> >
>> >> This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can infer 
>> >> and
>> > thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is her
>> decoding
>> > that keeps her from moving forward. She often struggles with the more 
>> > common
>> HF
>> > words. Her oral comprehension is well above grade level. Which means when 
>> > read
>> > to. She has a strong vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when
>> > mispronouncing them, which hinders her from really learning the word. She
>> > struggles with breaking words apart and putting them back together and will
>> read
>> > words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her 
>> > processing
>> > problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text orally, but she 
>> > did
>> > pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the process of being 
>> > identified
>> > right now for special services. >> Most of the time it is just the family 
>> > pediatrician that diagnoses it. >>
>> >> Troy Fredde
>> >>
>> >> On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level, then 
>> >>> how
>> > can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about decoding,
>> > well. decoding is just one element of the reading process, and 
>> > apparently
>> > one that is not hindering her. >>>
>> >>> Seems to me like there is no problem here. >>> Renee
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> F

[MOSAIC] Dyslexia identification

2013-05-14 Thread Beverlee paul
Part of the requirement for a diagnosis for ADHD (professional standards) is 
behavioral observation from more than one source. It could be as few as 2, but 
more often they get the observations from home, school, and doctor. That's a 
good thing; even common sense tells us that most children act differently in 
differing situations. There's also a more objective computer "test" for ADHD to 
add to observation. According to SPED requirements in my state, ADHD is 
considered other health impaired and only a doctor can diagnose it. The surveys 
we fill out do seem they're about behavior (and they are), but they're actually 
designed to identify hyperactivity and difficulties attending to something 
which compromises learning potential. If there are deficits in attention, and 
if a child is just not able to focus enough to learn , the consequence of those 
difficulties may be a child's poor behavior. The problem is ADHD; the symptom 
may easily be poor behavior.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2013, at 5:22 PM, wr...@centurytel.net wrote:

> If doctors can diagnose ADHD, why do they send questionnaires to the school 
> for the teachers to fill out?  The questions have nothing to do with health 
> (according to my not-medically-trained mind).   The questions have to do with 
> behavior.  As far as I can tell, in my state, doctors do not make the 
> diagnosis, teachers do. 
> 
> Quoting Beverlee paul :
>> I'd like to see it as well. Again, pediatricians do not have training in med
>> school or residency to diagnose an educational issue such as dyslexia. They 
>> do
>> have training and are able to diagnose ADHD, but that's not an educational
>> issue; it's a physical issue. 
>> 
>> On May 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mena  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am fascinated by this diagnosis.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-14 Thread write
If doctors can diagnose ADHD, why do they send questionnaires to the 
school for the teachers to fill out?  The questions have nothing to do 
with health (according to my not-medically-trained mind).   The 
questions have to do with behavior.  As far as I can tell, in my state, 
doctors do not make the diagnosis, teachers do. 



Quoting Beverlee paul :

I'd like to see it as well. Again, pediatricians do not have training in med
school or residency to diagnose an educational issue such as 
dyslexia. They do

have training and are able to diagnose ADHD, but that's not an educational
issue; it's a physical issue. 


"Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka

On May 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mena  wrote:

> I am fascinated by this diagnosis. I would love to see the data that was
collected and learn what instrument was used to diagnosis this 
student as being
dyslexic. 
>

>
>
>
> Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D. 
> Florida Atlantic University

> Dept. of Teaching and Learning
> College of Education
> 2912 College Ave. ES 214
> Davie, FL  33314
> Phone:  954-236-1070
> Fax:  954-236-1050
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Beverlee paul 
> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group

> Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 9:23 am
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>
>
> Pediatricians are not trained to diagnose dyslexia. They have no 
education in
> that area. 
>

> "Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka
>
> On May 12, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Troy F  wrote:
>
>> This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She 
can infer and

> thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is her
decoding
> that keeps her from moving forward. She often struggles with the 
more common

HF
> words. Her oral comprehension is well above grade level. Which 
means when read

> to. She has a strong vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when
> mispronouncing them, which hinders her from really learning the word. She
> struggles with breaking words apart and putting them back together and will
read
> words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her 
processing
> problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text orally, 
but she did
> pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the process of being 
identified
> right now for special services. 
>> Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it. 
>>

>> Troy Fredde
>>
>> On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte 
 wrote:

>>
>>> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade 
level, then how

> can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about decoding,
> well. decoding is just one element of the reading process, and 
apparently
> one that is not hindering her. 
>>>
>>> Seems to me like there is no problem here. 
>>> Renee

>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
>>>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
> 
>>>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
>>>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
>>>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
>>>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed. 
>>>> Thanks

>>>>
>>>> Troy Fredde
>>>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-14 Thread Beverlee paul
I'd like to see it as well. Again, pediatricians do not have training in med 
school or residency to diagnose an educational issue such as dyslexia. They do 
have training and are able to diagnose ADHD, but that's not an educational 
issue; it's a physical issue.

"Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka

On May 14, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mena  wrote:

> I am fascinated by this diagnosis. I would love to see the data that was 
> collected and learn what instrument was used to diagnosis this student as 
> being dyslexic. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
> Florida Atlantic University  
> Dept. of Teaching and Learning
> College of Education
> 2912 College Ave. ES 214
> Davie, FL  33314
> Phone:  954-236-1070
> Fax:  954-236-1050
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Beverlee paul 
> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
> 
> Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 9:23 am
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
> 
> 
> Pediatricians are not trained to diagnose dyslexia. They have no education in 
> that area.
> 
> "Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Troy F  wrote:
> 
>> This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can infer 
>> and 
> thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is her 
> decoding 
> that keeps her from moving forward. She often struggles with the more common 
> HF 
> words. Her oral comprehension is well above grade level. Which means when 
> read 
> to. She has a strong vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when 
> mispronouncing them, which hinders her from really learning the word. She 
> struggles with breaking words apart and putting them back together and will 
> read 
> words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her processing 
> problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text orally, but she did 
> pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the process of being 
> identified 
> right now for special services.
>> Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it. 
>> 
>> Troy Fredde
>> 
>> On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level, then 
>>> how 
> can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about decoding, 
> well. decoding is just one element of the reading process, and apparently 
> one that is not hindering her.
>>> 
>>> Seems to me like there is no problem here.
>>> Renee
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
>>>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
> 
>>>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
>>>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
>>>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
>>>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Troy Fredde
>>> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-14 Thread Mena
I am fascinated by this diagnosis. I would love to see the data that was 
collected and learn what instrument was used to diagnosis this student as being 
dyslexic. 
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

-Original Message-
From: Beverlee paul 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 9:23 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


Pediatricians are not trained to diagnose dyslexia. They have no education in 
that area.

"Literature is the act that breaks the frozen sea inside us."   Franz Kafka

On May 12, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Troy F  wrote:

> This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can infer and 
thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is her decoding 
that keeps her from moving forward. She often struggles with the more common HF 
words. Her oral comprehension is well above grade level. Which means when read 
to. She has a strong vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when 
mispronouncing them, which hinders her from really learning the word. She 
struggles with breaking words apart and putting them back together and will 
read 
words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her processing 
problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text orally, but she did 
pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the process of being identified 
right now for special services.
> Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it. 
> 
> Troy Fredde
> 
> On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte  wrote:
> 
>> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level, then how 
can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about decoding, 
well. decoding is just one element of the reading process, and apparently 
one that is not hindering her.
>> 
>> Seems to me like there is no problem here.
>> Renee
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
>>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

>>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
>>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
>>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
>>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Troy Fredde
>> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia (Troy F)

2013-05-12 Thread K L
I have found success in using a multi-sensory approach when working with 
students with dyslexic tendencies (only a doctor can diagnosis dyslexia and not 
all of the students have the medical diagnosis).  Here are two things that I 
have used to help with sight words.  To begin with you need to only work with 
3-5 unknown words at a time and in both activities they word needs to be 
written 2" high: 
 
1)  Have the student write each word on a piece of paper ( I usually cut a 
piece of typing paper in half) placed on top of a sheet of plastic needlepoint 
canvas with a crayon or on top of a piece of sandpaper (the lowest number so 
that it is rough) with a colored pencil  and then draw a line underneath it on 
Day 1.  Then they trace over the letter with the index finger, as they say the 
letter out loud and say the word as they trace the word underneath it.  Repeat 
this three times with each word.  The "bumps" made from writing on the textured 
sheet underneath provides them with a tactile surface.  Ex. student says "a" 
while tracing the a, "n" while tracing the n, and "d" while tracing the d.  
Then says "spells 'and' " while tracing the line under the word.  You will 
repeat the tracing/speaking steps for Days 2-4.  You can use the words slips 
that were made on Day 1 for the remainder of the week, but sometimes in midweek 
I have to
 have them write them again because the "bumps" get worn down.  Depending on 
the student, I have let them make on set to take home and I make one set to use 
in class, especially if they have difficulty forming the letters on the rough 
surface.  On Day 5, I check to see if the student can read the words by 
flashing the slips of paper to the student.  If she recognizes the word within 
3 seconds (which is the time allowed for sight word recognition) then move it 
to the "known pile" and for each word  that she doesn't know I place in the 
"unknown pile".  I take the "known" words, punch a hole in the top left-hand 
corner and put on a ring to use for review (which accumulates words over time) 
and any "unknown" words are added to the list for the following weeks to which 
I add enough new "unknown" words until I have my 3-5 list that we will repeat 
the process for the following week  I review known words at least twice a week.
 
2) Choose 3-5 unknown words.  Then using one word at a time, have the student 
write the word on a dry-erase board three times, using a different color each 
time (i.e., red, blue, and green marker).  Each time she will spell the word 
out loud while writing the letter and then say the whole word while drawing a 
line underneath it.  She will then erase the word and prepare for the next 
word.  Ex. student says "a" while writing the a, "n" while writing the n, and 
"d" while writing the d.  Then says "spells 'and' " while drawing the line 
under the word.
 
I hope this helps with your student.  I don't know what grade or age of the 
student.  Part of the problem with high frequency words is that they are often 
not decodable and must be memorized.  Both activities will help with this 
issue.  Something that you can try with encoding is using a blending board to 
blend the sounds into the word, that is assuming that she knows the sounds .  
FCRR (http://www.fcrr.org/) has some activities for this.  
 
Kate Linker, NBCT 2001
Reading Specialist
 
 
> On May 12, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Troy F wrote:
> 
> > This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can  
> > infer and thinks through the stories well. When giving running records  
> > it is her decoding that keeps her from moving forward. She often  
> > struggles with the more common HF words. Her oral comprehension is  
> > well above grade level. Which means when read to. She has a strong  
> > vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when mispronouncing them,  
> > which hinders her from really learning the word. She struggles with  
> > breaking words apart and putting them back together and will read  
> > words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her  
> > processing problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text  
> > orally, but she did pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the  
> > process of being identified right now for special services.
> > Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it.
> >
> > Troy Fredde


> >>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia.  
> >>> She
> >>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
> >>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Troy Fredde
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-12 Thread Amy McGovern
What grade is this student in?

> From: share2lear...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 06:51:14 -0700
> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
> 
> I would be interested in knowing what she does when faced with  
> completely unfamiliar text.
> 
> So she comprehends well and infers the meanings of words even if she  
> mispronounces them. To me, that is no problem. It seems as though this  
> student is not a proficient oral reader. So?
> 
> If a student comprehends well at grade level but is considered not to  
> be "moving forward" because of oral fluency and/or decoding issues that  
> do not appear to hinder her comprehension ability, it seems the problem  
> is with the assessors and the assessments, not the assessee.
> 
> Reading is about making meaning. Decoding is one path to making  
> meaning, but it is not the only path. Obviously this student is using  
> other reading strategies to make meaning from text.
> 
> That she is unable to score well on a running record is something to  
> note, and decoding may be something to work on, but if those running  
> record scores are keeping her from  "moving forward" . well  
> what does that mean, exactly? How does a running record score keep a  
> student from moving forward?
> 
> It should be comprehension ability that drives reading selection, not  
> running record or any other decoding scores.
> 
> What would Mosaic of Thought teach us?
> Renee
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Troy F wrote:
> 
> > This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can  
> > infer and thinks through the stories well. When giving running records  
> > it is her decoding that keeps her from moving forward. She often  
> > struggles with the more common HF words. Her oral comprehension is  
> > well above grade level. Which means when read to. She has a strong  
> > vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when mispronouncing them,  
> > which hinders her from really learning the word. She struggles with  
> > breaking words apart and putting them back together and will read  
> > words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her  
> > processing problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text  
> > orally, but she did pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the  
> > process of being identified right now for special services.
> > Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it.
> >
> > Troy Fredde
> >
> > On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte   
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level,  
> >> then how can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking  
> >> about decoding, well. decoding is just one element of the reading  
> >> process, and apparently one that is not hindering her.
> >>
> >> Seems to me like there is no problem here.
> >> Renee
> >>
> >>>
> >>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
> >>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group  
> >>> 
> >>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
> >>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia.  
> >>> She
> >>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
> >>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Troy Fredde
> >>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-12 Thread Renee G
I would be interested in knowing what she does when faced with  
completely unfamiliar text.


So she comprehends well and infers the meanings of words even if she  
mispronounces them. To me, that is no problem. It seems as though this  
student is not a proficient oral reader. So?


If a student comprehends well at grade level but is considered not to  
be "moving forward" because of oral fluency and/or decoding issues that  
do not appear to hinder her comprehension ability, it seems the problem  
is with the assessors and the assessments, not the assessee.


Reading is about making meaning. Decoding is one path to making  
meaning, but it is not the only path. Obviously this student is using  
other reading strategies to make meaning from text.


That she is unable to score well on a running record is something to  
note, and decoding may be something to work on, but if those running  
record scores are keeping her from  "moving forward" . well  
what does that mean, exactly? How does a running record score keep a  
student from moving forward?


It should be comprehension ability that drives reading selection, not  
running record or any other decoding scores.


What would Mosaic of Thought teach us?
Renee


On May 12, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Troy F wrote:

This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can  
infer and thinks through the stories well. When giving running records  
it is her decoding that keeps her from moving forward. She often  
struggles with the more common HF words. Her oral comprehension is  
well above grade level. Which means when read to. She has a strong  
vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when mispronouncing them,  
which hinders her from really learning the word. She struggles with  
breaking words apart and putting them back together and will read  
words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her  
processing problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text  
orally, but she did pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the  
process of being identified right now for special services.

Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it.

Troy Fredde

On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte   
wrote:


I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level,  
then how can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking  
about decoding, well. decoding is just one element of the reading  
process, and apparently one that is not hindering her.


Seems to me like there is no problem here.
Renee



From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group  


Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia.  
She

has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
Thanks

Troy Fredde


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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-12 Thread Beverlee paul
Pediatricians are not trained to diagnose dyslexia. They have no education in 
that area.

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On May 12, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Troy F  wrote:

> This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can infer and 
> thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is her 
> decoding that keeps her from moving forward. She often struggles with the 
> more common HF words. Her oral comprehension is well above grade level. Which 
> means when read to. She has a strong vocabulary and can infer  word meanings 
> even when mispronouncing them, which hinders her from really learning the 
> word. She struggles with breaking words apart and putting them back together 
> and will read words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through 
> her processing problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text 
> orally, but she did pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the 
> process of being identified right now for special services.
> Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it. 
> 
> Troy Fredde
> 
> On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte  wrote:
> 
>> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level, then how 
>> can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about decoding, 
>> well. decoding is just one element of the reading process, and 
>> apparently one that is not hindering her.
>> 
>> Seems to me like there is no problem here.
>> Renee
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
>>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
>>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
>>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
>>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Troy Fredde
>> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-12 Thread Troy F
This student struggles with decoding. She comprehends well. She can infer and 
thinks through the stories well. When giving running records it is her decoding 
that keeps her from moving forward. She often struggles with the more common HF 
words. Her oral comprehension is well above grade level. Which means when read 
to. She has a strong vocabulary and can infer  word meanings even when 
mispronouncing them, which hinders her from really learning the word. She 
struggles with breaking words apart and putting them back together and will 
read words back words. She has to slow down so much to work through her 
processing problems. It took her 20 minutes to read a 230 word text orally, but 
she did pass the comprehensive conversation. She is in the process of being 
identified right now for special services.
Most of the time it is just the family pediatrician that diagnoses it. 

Troy Fredde

On May 7, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Renee Goularte  wrote:

> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level, then how 
> can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about decoding, 
> well. decoding is just one element of the reading process, and apparently 
> one that is not hindering her.
> 
> Seems to me like there is no problem here.
> Renee
> 
>> 
>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
>> 
>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>> 
>> 
>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Troy Fredde
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-09 Thread Mena
I am curious about the doctor that diagnosed her condition? Can any doctor 
diagnosis dyslexia  or does it have to be a specialist? What types of 
assessments were used to make this diagnosis? 
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

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From: Jasmine Williams Davis 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Tue, May 7, 2013 11:57 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


Is she referring to oral/verbal comprehension as opposed to comprehension
from her reading?


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Renee Goularte wrote:

> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level, then
> how can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about
> decoding, well. decoding is just one element of the reading process,
> and apparently one that is not hindering her.
>
> Seems to me like there is no problem here.
> Renee
>
>
>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group <
>> mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>>
>>
>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Troy Fredde
>>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-07 Thread Jasmine Williams Davis
Is she referring to oral/verbal comprehension as opposed to comprehension
from her reading?


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Renee Goularte wrote:

> I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level, then
> how can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking about
> decoding, well. decoding is just one element of the reading process,
> and apparently one that is not hindering her.
>
> Seems to me like there is no problem here.
> Renee
>
>
>> From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group <
>> mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
>> Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
>>
>>
>> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
>> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
>> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Troy Fredde
>>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-07 Thread Renee Goularte
I am very confused. If her comprehension is well above grade level,  
then how can she be struggling with her reading? If you are talking  
about decoding, well. decoding is just one element of the reading  
process, and apparently one that is not hindering her.


Seems to me like there is no problem here.
Renee



From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia.  
She

has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
Thanks

Troy Fredde


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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-07 Thread vsper547
There is a place in Dallas, Texas that specializes in all sorts of resources 
for dyslexia.  I haven't
checked it for a few years.  I ran onto through educators publishing service 
many years ago.
Hope it will help.  Verla in Utah...I am a silent reader most of the time.

 

 

 

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From: jayhawkrtroy fredde 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 11:31 am
Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia


I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
Thanks

Troy Fredde
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-05 Thread Patty Gullick
Most children with dyslexia have some working memory issues and difficulty, 
pulling/putting together sounds.  I strongly suggest a specific program such as 
Wilson or Orton-Gillingham, there are many which break things down bit by bit.  
I am a special educator and have been working with children with dyslexia for a 
number of years and have 2 children with a dianosis of dyslexia.  Many of these 
kids have amazing coping systems and have memorized and hidden their disability 
and then it sort of backfires on them when they get a bit older and have to 
read longer and more complex material.

> From: dkba...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 02:43:18 -0400
> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia
> 
> My daughter 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 1, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Leah Fisher"  wrote:
> 
> > I have been working with a 7th grade student who tested dyslexia.  We have 
> > gone back to review dolch words, in isolation and in context, focused on 
> > the issues he seemed to be having most, b-d-p words,  was/saw kinds of 
> > reversals, reading together, listening every opportunity he gets with text 
> > to follow along - if you haven't accessed Book Share yet it has been great! 
> >  As much exposure to print as she can get - seeing and hearing at the same 
> > time.  My student did System 44 for a while, but motivation did not make it 
> > productive for him.  We did not do anything like Wilson - very time 
> > consuming. Just working 1-1 whenever we could. Good luck!
> > 
> > Leah Fisher
> > DC Everest Middle School Language Arts (Reading)
> > 9302 Schofield Ave
> > Weston, WI  54476
> > 241-9700 EX 2228
> > lfis...@dce.k12.wi.us
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>>> jayhawkrtroy fredde  5/1/2013 12:29 PM >>>
> > I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
> > has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
> > comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Troy Fredde
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-02 Thread Denise Robinson
My daughter 

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On May 1, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Leah Fisher"  wrote:

> I have been working with a 7th grade student who tested dyslexia.  We have 
> gone back to review dolch words, in isolation and in context, focused on the 
> issues he seemed to be having most, b-d-p words,  was/saw kinds of reversals, 
> reading together, listening every opportunity he gets with text to follow 
> along - if you haven't accessed Book Share yet it has been great!  As much 
> exposure to print as she can get - seeing and hearing at the same time.  My 
> student did System 44 for a while, but motivation did not make it productive 
> for him.  We did not do anything like Wilson - very time consuming. Just 
> working 1-1 whenever we could. Good luck!
> 
> Leah Fisher
> DC Everest Middle School Language Arts (Reading)
> 9302 Schofield Ave
> Weston, WI  54476
> 241-9700 EX 2228
> lfis...@dce.k12.wi.us
> 
> 
> 
 jayhawkrtroy fredde  5/1/2013 12:29 PM >>>
> I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
> has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
> comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-01 Thread Leah Fisher
I have been working with a 7th grade student who tested dyslexia.  We have gone 
back to review dolch words, in isolation and in context, focused on the issues 
he seemed to be having most, b-d-p words,  was/saw kinds of reversals, reading 
together, listening every opportunity he gets with text to follow along - if 
you haven't accessed Book Share yet it has been great!  As much exposure to 
print as she can get - seeing and hearing at the same time.  My student did 
System 44 for a while, but motivation did not make it productive for him.  We 
did not do anything like Wilson - very time consuming. Just working 1-1 
whenever we could. Good luck!

Leah Fisher
DC Everest Middle School Language Arts (Reading)
9302 Schofield Ave
Weston, WI  54476
241-9700 EX 2228
lfis...@dce.k12.wi.us



>>> jayhawkrtroy fredde  5/1/2013 12:29 PM >>>
I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
Thanks

Troy Fredde
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[MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-01 Thread jayhawkrtroy fredde
I need some ideas to help a student who is struggling with dyslexia. She
has been diagnosed by a doctor and struggles with her reading. Her
comprehension is well above grade level. Any ideas will be welcomed.
Thanks

Troy Fredde
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and medication

2012-06-28 Thread Ruth Weil
Here are several I found.  Maybe they will be helpful.  The first one seems
to be directly related to reading.

http://ldx.sagepub.com/content/25/2/115.short
http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/123/5/1273.full
http://jpepsy.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/6/643.short



On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Mena  wrote:

>
>  I'm having some trouble finding articles that are about the medication of
> children that is directly related to reading. Does anyone know of an author
> or research in this area? From, Dr. M.
>
>
> Philomena Marinaccio-Eckel, Ph.D.
> Florida Atlantic University
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and medication

2012-06-28 Thread Mena

 I'm having some trouble finding articles that are about the medication of 
children that is directly related to reading. Does anyone know of an author or 
research in this area? From, Dr. M.
 

Philomena Marinaccio-Eckel, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

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To: mosaic 
Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Core Curriculum



Basically UbD is a unit of study with lessons and activities to cover grade 
level expectations. Our parish has 6 units in the curriculum and we had to 
design a unit to teach each one. 
 > Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:20:18 -0400
> From: fcbsm...@optonline.net
> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
> Subject: [MOSAIC] Core Curriculum
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> It's funny how this list gets so quiet as the school year winds down.  I was
> wondering if anyone has taken any courses on Understand by Design (UbD).  If
> so, did you find them helpful?  My district is going to UbD for lesson plans
> next school year.  Please e-mail me off list.
> 
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[MOSAIC] dyslexia

2011-08-21 Thread JeanHamilton
You might want to read  Overcoming Dyslexia by Dr. Sally Shaywitz--a very 
comprehensive look at the dyslexic learner.  Also, explore Orton-Gillingham 
materials which also address the instructional needs of dyslexic students using 
a multisensory approach.  jean 
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[MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2011-08-20 Thread Holloway, Nancy
Thank you for asking this question.  We have a student who entered 4th grade 
with the same problem.  I have had the Lindamood-Bell LiPS training and it is 
excellent.  But, what can the teacher do in the regular classroom to help this 
student on a daily basis.  I would appreciate all the down-to-earth help you 
can send.
Thanks,
Nancy
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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:05:15 -0400
From: Rascal570 
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"

Cc: "mosaic@literacyworkshop.org" 
Subject: [MOSAIC] Teaching a child with dyslexia
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Hi,

I have a wonderful student in my fourth grade class this year who has a medical 
diagnosis of dyslexia. I see it impacting both his reading and math skills.  I 
was wondering if anyone has some great resources for me to read or access in 
regard to ways to best teach this student.

Thank you in advance for your help.
Ali/FL



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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:24:33 -0400
From: Susan 
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"

Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Teaching a child with dyslexia
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I read an interesting book a few years ago written by a dyslexic person called 
The Gift of Dyslexia. It definitely give you a different perspective.
Sue

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> Hi,
>
> I have a wonderful student in my fourth grade class this year who has a 
> medical diagnosis of dyslexia. I see it impacting both his reading and math 
> skills.  I was wondering if anyone has some great resources for me to read or 
> access in regard to ways to best teach this student.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
> Ali/FL
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> I am making plans to do a book club / literature group study with my 4/5/6
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>> suggestions. I am planning to use *The Golden Goblet* which is a grade
>> level 5 to 6.3, depending on who you ask. I am looking for another book
>> with the Egypt theme for the children who would find *The Golden Goblet* too
>> challenging. The story doesn't have to be set in Ancient Egypt, although I
>> am hoping for as many connections as possible. The Magic Treehouse book(s)
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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:55:10 -0500
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To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"

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Read Dyslexia by Dr. Sally Shaywitz, use 
http://www.ldonline.org/indepth/reading-ldonline-great resources, 
http://www.medicalassistantschools.org/top_dyslexia/-the top 15 dyslexia blogs. 
Look into Orton-Gillingham and Lindamood-Bell.
Read Brilliant Idiot: An Autobiography of a Dyslexic It will bring a better 
understanding of what a learning disabled person has to overcome--and provides 
positive truth that it can be done! Hope this helps, Hillary

Hillary Marchel Reading Specialist
Hawthorn Ele

Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-11-01 Thread CRAIGZAHN
Jan, I had my daughter tested using the Irlen colored overlays.  She 
struggled with ADHD and they made a tremendous difference for her.  They also 
claim to help students with dyslexia.  You might check out this website:
_http://www.crossboweducation.com/Eye_Level_Reading_Ruler.htm_ 
(http://www.crossboweducation.com/Eye_Level_Reading_Ruler.htm) 
Good luck!  Sue 
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread Hillary Marchel
(without knowing what level your students are reading at) What I love  
about Orton (poor Gillingham I never give him credit)  is that it will  
meet your students where they are at and create a foundation for  
reading. When I work with other teachers we talk about "mastery" at  
any level and how you can not go on to other concepts until the  
student has mastered the first level. For example, you wouldn't teach  
synthesize before you teach schema. Your building a foundation for  
reading. The Orton  approach is appropriate for teaching individuals,  
small groups, and classrooms. It is appropriate for teaching in the  
primary, elementary, intermediate grades, and at the secondary and  
college level as well as for adults. The explicit focus of the  
approach has been and continues to be upon persons with the kinds of  
language processing problems associated with dyslexia.


Wilson also is a research-based reading and writing program designed  
for students (grades 2-12 and adults) who have difficulty with  
decoding (reading) and encoding (spelling). It is a complete  
curriculum that has 12 steps, beginning with phoneme segmentation. Its  
main goal is to teach students language and word structure through a  
carefully planned program. It was  initially designed for older  
individuals with dyslexia, Wilson Reading System is appropriate for  
students with decoding or word-level deficits. It provides an  
organized, sequential system with extensive controlled text to help  
teachers implement a multi-sensory structured language program. It is  
extensively used with older individuals and middle school students.  
Good Luck , hope this helps. Hillary

Hillary Marchel~Reading Specialist
Elementary North ~march...@hawthorn73.org
Doceo, ergo sum. I have my path

On Oct 25, 2009, at 4:40 PM, wr...@att.net wrote:




I teach middle school.  Do the same programs work as well with  
beginning readers as they do with middle schoolers?


 -- Original message from Hillary Marchel >: --





I could not agree more!  Orton is the way to go from a professional



point of view ( read Shaywitz's Book ) and from a personal view ( one


of my sons has Dyslexia). And as an added bonus...It will  
also



improve your teaching. Your focus should be to  aim at helping the



specific learning problem of your student. It is important to teach



your students using all the senses: hearing, touching, writing, and



speaking. To remediate dyslexia, studies have found that a program


that is based on Orton-Gillingham is the best. This approach goes  
back


to the very basics; teaching individual sounds, blends, rules, etc.  
It



is multi-sensory and repetitive.



Sound Reading is a program that works well to correct the glitches in



auditory processing that make reading so hard for dyslexic students.



By building up the basic auditory processing skills like phonemic



awareness, students learn the skills they need to learn. You can find



more about Sound Reading at www.SoundReading.com and more about



phonics instruction under the "How It Works tab."



Other programs are the Wilson & Barton Programs. Most Wilson programs


are done by trained teachers in the schools, whereas the Barton  
Method



is usually done by trained tutors (outside of school). There are many



other fine programs out there, A Reading Program for Overcoming



Dyslexia, by Cheryl Orlassino. This is a very affordable Orton-



Gillingham based program that can be done at home by an untrained



parent or a teacher wanting to learn how to teach her "students with


dyslexia."  www.help4dyslexia.com for more information. The book  
costs



about 39.00. The student with Dyslexia is a very visual learner. And



one does not overcome Dyslexia one learns to live with it. Hope this



helps.



Hillary Marchel~Reading Specialist



Elementary north~march...@hawthorn73.org



Doceo, ergo sum. I have my path











On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Kathy Jankins wrote:







I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is



not something that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run



out and buy them. As you've mentioned, the research isn't there to



determine how effective they actually are. I think it's also



important to remember that it is a brain disorder and while there



are many who are now questioning whether or not it exists, brain



imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective



approach to teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or



Wilson and even then we need to remember this is something that



cannot be magically fixed at the present time.



Kathy



Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts











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To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group





Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 P

Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia and colored overlays

2009-10-25 Thread gina nunley


I was surprised to see the use of colored overlays in a discussion about 
dyslexia.

I was first introduced to their use in the 80s.  The Irlen Institute was 
screening people for something called scotopic sensitivity and they would 
advise on the appropriate colored glasses or transparency to help alleviate the 
problems of light on white paper that caused reading problems for some people.

I just looked at their website(below)and it does look like they have broadened 
the use.

http://irlen.com/index.php

Gina
  
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread write
 

I teach middle school.  Do the same programs work as well with beginning 
readers as they do with middle schoolers? 

  -- Original message from Hillary Marchel 
: --



> I could not agree more!  Orton is the way to go from a professional  

> point of view ( read Shaywitz's Book ) and from a personal view ( one  

> of my sons has Dyslexia). And as an added bonus...It will also  

> improve your teaching. Your focus should be to  aim at helping the  

> specific learning problem of your student. It is important to teach  

> your students using all the senses: hearing, touching, writing, and  

> speaking. To remediate dyslexia, studies have found that a program  

> that is based on Orton-Gillingham is the best. This approach goes back  

> to the very basics; teaching individual sounds, blends, rules, etc. It  

> is multi-sensory and repetitive.

> Sound Reading is a program that works well to correct the glitches in  

> auditory processing that make reading so hard for dyslexic students.  

> By building up the basic auditory processing skills like phonemic  

> awareness, students learn the skills they need to learn. You can find  

> more about Sound Reading at www.SoundReading.com and more about  

> phonics instruction under the "How It Works tab."

> Other programs are the Wilson & Barton Programs. Most Wilson programs  

> are done by trained teachers in the schools, whereas the Barton Method  

> is usually done by trained tutors (outside of school). There are many  

> other fine programs out there, A Reading Program for Overcoming  

> Dyslexia, by Cheryl Orlassino. This is a very affordable Orton- 

> Gillingham based program that can be done at home by an untrained  

> parent or a teacher wanting to learn how to teach her "students with  

> dyslexia."  www.help4dyslexia.com for more information. The book costs  

> about 39.00. The student with Dyslexia is a very visual learner. And  

> one does not overcome Dyslexia one learns to live with it. Hope this  

> helps.

> Hillary Marchel~Reading Specialist

> Elementary north~march...@hawthorn73.org

> Doceo, ergo sum. I have my path

> 

> 

> On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Kathy Jankins wrote:

> 

> > I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is  

> > not something that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run  

> > out and buy them. As you've mentioned, the research isn't there to  

> > determine how effective they actually are. I think it's also  

> > important to remember that it is a brain disorder and while there  

> > are many who are now questioning whether or not it exists, brain  

> > imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective  

> > approach to teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or  

> > Wilson and even then we need to remember this is something that  

> > cannot be magically fixed at the present time.

> >  Kathy

> > Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 

> > From: sheila eisen 
> > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

>  > >
> > Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 PM

> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

> >
> > The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are  

> > used to correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.   

> > This hasn't (I believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving"  

> > on the page.  The most common colored overlay is blue, but they also  

> > come in various other shades, like yellows, roses, greens, etc.  You  

> > could probably find report covers that would work as well and be  

> > much cheaper. It's basically a trial-and-error method to determine  

> > the correct color.

> >
> > Sheila

> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:

> >
> >> From: wr...@att.net 
> >> Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

> >> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 

>  >> >
> >> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:30 PM

> >> I have a student who probably has

> >> dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my state does

> >> not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this

> >> student will not get any help from special ed.  She

> >> really needs help with reading.

> >>
> >> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic

> >> sheets in different colors can help students with dysl

Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread sheila eisen
In my district, special ed teachers use Wilson Reading, which is a tactile 
phonics program, coupled with other components in a reading program.  IF THE 
PROGRAM IS FOLLOWED RELIGIOUSLY (not just pieces of it, or skipping over 
parts), there's been a lot of success with grade 2-4 children.  Some other 
teachers claim to teach Wilson, but they only use the "tapping" part, which 
involves students touching their fingers to their thumb for each "sound" they 
hear, then blending these sounds into words.  
One special ed teacher used Orton Gillingham, which also used body movements in 
conjunction with sounds.  She used this with kdg & 1st graders, but she has 
since left the district, so I don't know her thoughts on its success.

--- On Sun, 10/25/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:

> From: wr...@att.net 
> Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> 
> Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 10:19 AM
> 
> 
> 
> Can you write more about Orton Gillingham and Wilson?
> Thanks!
>  


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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread Rachel Worthington


About the color overlays, I have personally used them.  I was diagnosed with 
Dyslexia and ADD as a child and struggled through school.  I have very 
supportive parents who searched for assistive technology, in the early 80's 
there wasn't much.  

>From a personal point, I don't think they helped.  The most useful 
>accommodations I received and use with my students, tape recording.  
I had a fabulous teacher who tape recorded my tests and any assignments.  I 
listened to the tape recordings while reading the text.  It worked well; I used 
this accommodation into college.  

I would like to add, I became a reading specialist/teacher because of the 
wonderful teachers who supported me throughout my academic growth.  Remember, 
as teachers we can inspire or diminish a love of learning.  



-Original Message-
From: mosaic-bounces+rworthington=ms.k12.il...@literacyworkshop.org 
[mailto:mosaic-bounces+rworthington=ms.k12.il...@literacyworkshop.org] On 
Behalf Of Kathy Jankins
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:24 AM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is not 
something that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run out and buy them. 
As you've mentioned, the research isn't there to determine how effective they 
actually are. I think it's also important to remember that it is a brain 
disorder and while there are many who are now questioning whether or not it 
exists, brain imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective 
approach to teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or Wilson and 
even then we need to remember this is something that cannot be magically fixed 
at the present time. 
 Kathy 
Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts





From: sheila eisen 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are used to 
correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.  This hasn't (I 
believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving" on the page.  The most 
common colored overlay is blue, but they also come in various other shades, 
like yellows, roses, greens, etc.  You could probably find report covers that 
would work as well and be much cheaper. It's basically a trial-and-error method 
to determine the correct color.  

Sheila

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:

> From: wr...@att.net 
> Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> 
> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:30 PM
> I have a student who probably has
> dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my state does
> not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this
> student will not get any help from special ed.  She
> really needs help with reading.
> 
> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic
> sheets in different colors can help students with dyslexia
> read.  Do you know anything about this?  
> 
> If this is really true, where can I buy some of those
> plastic sheets for her to try out?
> Thanks!
> Jan
> 
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread Hillary Marchel
LDonline.org..hands down...anything you want to know about  
Dyslexia...
Orton-Gillingham is the structured,sequential multi-sensory teaching  
of written language based upon the constant use of association of all  
of the following - how a letter or word looks, how it sounds, and how  
the speech organs or the hand in writing feels when producing it.  
Children also learn the common rules of the English language such as  
the final e rule and when to use -ck and -tch. Older students learn a  
variety of syllable patterns and common prefixes and suffixes, then  
Latin and Greek word parts. Students learn the basic building blocks  
of the English language – the phonemes – and then progress to  
syllables and word parts such as prefixes, roots, and suffixes. In  
spelling, they learn the many spelling rules that govern the language.  
The Orton-Gillingham lesson plan integrates reading and spelling  
skills and builds in continuous practice and review. Students progress  
from the smallest elements of the language to reading books and  
applying their spelling skills when writing sentences.

This method is particularly effective for students who:
 Have difficulty matching sounds with their associated letters
 Find it difficult to sequence sounds
 Read aloud in an uneven, halting manner
 Frequently "skip over" words or fail to notice punctuation
 Have difficulty remembering spelling patterns

Regular ed. teachers go for training and use Orton in classrooms.

The Wilson Reading System is a 12-Step remedial reading and writing  
program for individuals with a language-based learning disability.  
This program is based on Orton-Gillingham philosophy and principles  
and current phonological coding research. It directly teaches the  
structure of words in the English language so that students master the  
coding system for reading and spelling. Unlike other programs that  
overwhelm the student with rules, the language system of English is  
presented in a very systematic and cumulative manner so that it is  
manageable. The Wilson Reading System specifically teaches strategies  
for decoding and spelling. However, from the beginning steps of the  
program, it includes oral expressive language development and  
comprehension. Visualization techniques are used for comprehension.  
The Wilson Reading System's twelve steps are direct, sequential, and  
multi-sensory, and go beyond the scope of traditional phonics.  
Students start with sounds and progress to syllables, words,  
sentences, stories, and finally to books, learning from constant  
review and practice. The steps follow the six syllable types found in  
English, and we teach the sounds that relate to the syllable being  
studied. Each lesson introduces new concepts while reinforcing those  
already learned. Students experience success because they read only  
text that contains what has been previously taught.
While the Wilson Reading System was originally designed for students  
with language-based learning disabilities such as dyslexia, the  
program has proven beneficial to all students.


This method is particularly effective for students who:
 Find it difficult to read isolated words
 Often must guess at words from context
 Are poor spellers

Our Special Ed. teachers teach using the Wilson Method.

Most students with dyslexia are not diagnosed till age 8 and above.  
Hope this helps.

Hillary Marchel~Reading Specialist
Elementary north~march...@hawthorn73.org
Doceo, ergo sum. I have my path




Can you write more about Orton Gillingham and Wilson?
Thanks!


 Original message from Kathy Jankins  
: 



I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is  
not something
that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run out and buy  
them. As you've
mentioned, the research isn't there to determine how effective they  
actually
are. I think it's also important to remember that it is a brain  
disorder and
while there are many who are now questioning whether or not it  
exists, brain
imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective  
approach to
teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or Wilson and  
even then we
need to remember this is something that cannot be magically fixed at  
the present

time.
Kathy
Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts







From: sheila eisen To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies  
Email Group

Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 PM

Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are  
used to
correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.  This  
hasn't (I
believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving" on the page.   
The most
common colored overlay is blue, but they also come in various other  
shades, like
yellows, roses, greens, etc.  You could probably find report covers  
that would
work 

Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread Kathy Jankins
Orton Gillingham is a reading program that was specifically designed for 
children with dylexia and Wilson is another program that is based on Orton 
Gillingham. They both incorporate a strong, systematic phonics based approach 
to reading and many SPED teachers and reading specialists are trained in one or 
both of these programs. You can find more information about these programs 
online. Many people feel this is the best approach at the present time to help 
dyslexic students.

P.S. In Massachusetts we don't have a 504 for dyslexia either. Dyslexia is a 
learning disability but schools don't have the ability to test for it. In 
Massachusetts, children are often taken to Mass. General or Children's Hospital 
to be tested. They then bring the results back to the school to aid in the 
schools findings with their testing. You might want to check with a hospital in 
your area to see if they do the testing. Sometimes it is covered by insurance 
and sometimes it isn't. Some people have had the testing done anyway and paid 
3,000.00 for the testing to be done.
Kathy 
Reading Specialist





From: "wr...@att.net" 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 11:19:22 AM
Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia




Can you write more about Orton Gillingham and Wilson?
Thanks!


 Original message from Kathy Jankins : 



I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is not 
something 
that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run out and buy them. As you've 
mentioned, the research isn't there to determine how effective they actually 
are. I think it's also important to remember that it is a brain disorder and 
while there are many who are now questioning whether or not it exists, brain 
imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective approach to 
teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or Wilson and even then 
we 
need to remember this is something that cannot be magically fixed at the 
present 
> time. 
>  Kathy 
> Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

> From: sheila eisen To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
> > Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> 
The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are used to 
> correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.  This hasn't (I 
> believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving" on the page.  The most 
> common colored overlay is blue, but they also come in various other shades, 
> like 
> yellows, roses, greens, etc.  You could probably find report covers that 
> would 
> work as well and be much cheaper. It's basically a trial-and-error method to 
> determine the correct color.  
> 
> Sheila
> 
> --- On Sat, 10/24/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:
> 
> > From: wr...@att.net 
> > Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> > > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:30 PM
> > I have a student who probably has
> > dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my state does
> > not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this
> > student will not get any help from special ed.  She
> > really needs help with reading.
> > 
> > I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic
> > sheets in different colors can help students with dyslexia
> > read.  Do you know anything about this?  
> > 
> > If this is really true, where can I buy some of those
> > plastic sheets for her to try out?
> > Thanks!
> > Jan


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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread Hillary Marchel
I could not agree more!  Orton is the way to go from a professional  
point of view ( read Shaywitz's Book ) and from a personal view ( one  
of my sons has Dyslexia). And as an added bonus...It will also  
improve your teaching. Your focus should be to  aim at helping the  
specific learning problem of your student. It is important to teach  
your students using all the senses: hearing, touching, writing, and  
speaking. To remediate dyslexia, studies have found that a program  
that is based on Orton-Gillingham is the best. This approach goes back  
to the very basics; teaching individual sounds, blends, rules, etc. It  
is multi-sensory and repetitive.
Sound Reading is a program that works well to correct the glitches in  
auditory processing that make reading so hard for dyslexic students.  
By building up the basic auditory processing skills like phonemic  
awareness, students learn the skills they need to learn. You can find  
more about Sound Reading at www.SoundReading.com and more about  
phonics instruction under the "How It Works tab."
Other programs are the Wilson & Barton Programs. Most Wilson programs  
are done by trained teachers in the schools, whereas the Barton Method  
is usually done by trained tutors (outside of school). There are many  
other fine programs out there, A Reading Program for Overcoming  
Dyslexia, by Cheryl Orlassino. This is a very affordable Orton- 
Gillingham based program that can be done at home by an untrained  
parent or a teacher wanting to learn how to teach her "students with  
dyslexia."  www.help4dyslexia.com for more information. The book costs  
about 39.00. The student with Dyslexia is a very visual learner. And  
one does not overcome Dyslexia one learns to live with it. Hope this  
helps.

Hillary Marchel~Reading Specialist
Elementary north~march...@hawthorn73.org
Doceo, ergo sum. I have my path


On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Kathy Jankins wrote:

I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is  
not something that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run  
out and buy them. As you've mentioned, the research isn't there to  
determine how effective they actually are. I think it's also  
important to remember that it is a brain disorder and while there  
are many who are now questioning whether or not it exists, brain  
imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective  
approach to teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or  
Wilson and even then we need to remember this is something that  
cannot be magically fixed at the present time.

 Kathy
Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts





From: sheila eisen 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >

Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are  
used to correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.   
This hasn't (I believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving"  
on the page.  The most common colored overlay is blue, but they also  
come in various other shades, like yellows, roses, greens, etc.  You  
could probably find report covers that would work as well and be  
much cheaper. It's basically a trial-and-error method to determine  
the correct color.


Sheila

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:


From: wr...@att.net 
Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" >

Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:30 PM
I have a student who probably has
dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my state does
not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this
student will not get any help from special ed.  She
really needs help with reading.

I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic
sheets in different colors can help students with dyslexia
read.  Do you know anything about this?

If this is really true, where can I buy some of those
plastic sheets for her to try out?
Thanks!
Jan


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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread write



H...
I'm in Washington state.  I think, according to the school psych, students with 
dyslexia here cannot get a 504 plan.  Anyone from Washington know about this? 


-- Original message from Laura : ---


> I'm curious which state?  We have special provisions for testing for 
> dyslexia in Texas.  Also, it can definitely be a case of 504 which is a 
> mandated federal law about students with disabilities that are not labeled 
> special ed.  The 504 law covers all states.
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies EmailGroup" 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:30 PM
> Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> 
> 
> >I have a student who probably has dyslexia.  According to our school psych, 
> >my state does not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this 
> >student will not get any help from special ed.  She really needs help with 
> >reading.
> >
> > I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic sheets in different 
> > colors can help students with dyslexia read.  Do you know anything about 
> > this?
> >
> > If this is really true, where can I buy some of those plastic sheets for 
> > her to try out?
> > Thanks!
> > Jan
> >


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[MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread write



Can you write more about Orton Gillingham and Wilson?
Thanks!
 

 Original message from Kathy Jankins : 



I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is not 
something 
that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run out and buy them. As you've 
mentioned, the research isn't there to determine how effective they actually 
are. I think it's also important to remember that it is a brain disorder and 
while there are many who are now questioning whether or not it exists, brain 
imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective approach to 
teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or Wilson and even then 
we 
need to remember this is something that cannot be magically fixed at the 
present 
> time. 
>  Kathy 
> Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

> From: sheila eisen To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
> > Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> 
The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are used to 
> correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.  This hasn't (I 
> believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving" on the page.  The most 
> common colored overlay is blue, but they also come in various other shades, 
> like 
> yellows, roses, greens, etc.  You could probably find report covers that 
> would 
> work as well and be much cheaper. It's basically a trial-and-error method to 
> determine the correct color.  
> 
> Sheila
> 
> --- On Sat, 10/24/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:
> 
> > From: wr...@att.net 
> > Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> > > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:30 PM
> > I have a student who probably has
> > dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my state does
> > not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this
> > student will not get any help from special ed.  She
> > really needs help with reading.
> > 
> > I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic
> > sheets in different colors can help students with dyslexia
> > read.  Do you know anything about this?  
> > 
> > If this is really true, where can I buy some of those
> > plastic sheets for her to try out?
> > Thanks!
> > Jan


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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-25 Thread Kathy Jankins
I've tried the overlays and I think blue works the best, but it is not 
something that is going to help all that much. I wouldn't run out and buy them. 
As you've mentioned, the research isn't there to determine how effective they 
actually are. I think it's also important to remember that it is a brain 
disorder and while there are many who are now questioning whether or not it 
exists, brain imaging clearly shows that it does. The only somewhat effective 
approach to teaching dyslexic children is to use Orton Gillingham or Wilson and 
even then we need to remember this is something that cannot be magically fixed 
at the present time. 
 Kathy 
Reading Specialist from Massachuesetts





From: sheila eisen 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 11:38:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are used to 
correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.  This hasn't (I 
believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving" on the page.  The most 
common colored overlay is blue, but they also come in various other shades, 
like yellows, roses, greens, etc.  You could probably find report covers that 
would work as well and be much cheaper. It's basically a trial-and-error method 
to determine the correct color.  

Sheila

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:

> From: wr...@att.net 
> Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> 
> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:30 PM
> I have a student who probably has
> dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my state does
> not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this
> student will not get any help from special ed.  She
> really needs help with reading.
> 
> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic
> sheets in different colors can help students with dyslexia
> read.  Do you know anything about this?  
> 
> If this is really true, where can I buy some of those
> plastic sheets for her to try out?
> Thanks!
> Jan
> 
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-24 Thread sheila eisen
The colored sheets are available from Irlen Institute and they are used to 
correct visual difficulties called scotopic sensitivity.  This hasn't (I 
believe) been proven to correct the "letters moving" on the page.  The most 
common colored overlay is blue, but they also come in various other shades, 
like yellows, roses, greens, etc.   You could probably find report covers that 
would work as well and be much cheaper. It's basically a trial-and-error method 
to determine the correct color.  

Sheila

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, wr...@att.net  wrote:

> From: wr...@att.net 
> Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> 
> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:30 PM
> I have a student who probably has
> dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my state does
> not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this
> student will not get any help from special ed.  She
> really needs help with reading.
> 
> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic
> sheets in different colors can help students with dyslexia
> read.  Do you know anything about this?  
> 
> If this is really true, where can I buy some of those
> plastic sheets for her to try out?
> Thanks!
> Jan
> 
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-24 Thread carlawatts
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To: 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia


Dyslexia is a loose term that it seems not many agree on a definition for.  I 
have found some of the information from Sally Shaywitz very helpful as I have 
learned more about struggling readers.  Her book, Overcoming Dyslexia, is 
awesome.  She is, I think, a pediatric neurologist. 

Cathy
title I Reading

-Original Message-
From: Laura 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia


I'm curious which state? We have special provisions for testing for dyslexia in 
Texas. Also, it can definitely be a case of 504 which is a mandated federal law 
about students with disabilities that are not labeled special ed. The 504 law 
covers all states. 
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Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:30 PM 
Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia 
 
>I have a student who probably has dyslexia. According to our school psych, >my 
>state does not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this >student 
>will not get any help from special ed. She really needs help with >reading. 
> 
> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic sheets in different > 
> colors can help students with dyslexia read. Do you know anything about > 
> this? 
> 
> If this is really true, where can I buy some of those plastic sheets for > 
> her to try out? 
> Thanks! 
> Jan 
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-24 Thread demillereed

Dyslexia is a loose term that it seems not many agree on a definition for.  I 
have found some of the information from Sally Shaywitz very helpful as I have 
learned more about struggling readers.  Her book, Overcoming Dyslexia, is 
awesome.  She is, I think, a pediatric neurologist. 

Cathy
title I Reading

-Original Message-
From: Laura 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

Sent: Sat, Oct 24, 2009 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia


I'm curious which state? We have special provisions for testing for dyslexia in 
Texas. Also, it can definitely be a case of 504 which is a mandated federal law 
about students with disabilities that are not labeled special ed. The 504 law 
covers all states. 
- Original Message - From:  
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies EmailGroup" 
 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:30 PM 
Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia 
 
>I have a student who probably has dyslexia. According to our school psych, >my 
>state does not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this >student 
>will not get any help from special ed. She really needs help with >reading. 
> 
> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic sheets in different > 
> colors can help students with dyslexia read. Do you know anything about > 
> this? 
> 
> If this is really true, where can I buy some of those plastic sheets for > 
> her to try out? 
> Thanks! 
> Jan 
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-24 Thread Stacy E

I have purchased cover overlays myself, but have read research recently that 
has claimed they are not effective.  Can't say I've seen any remarkable results 
myself.  


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> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:30:44 +
> Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia
> 
> I have a student who probably has dyslexia. According to our school psych, my 
> state does not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this student 
> will not get any help from special ed. She really needs help with reading.
> 
> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic sheets in different 
> colors can help students with dyslexia read. Do you know anything about this? 
> 
> If this is really true, where can I buy some of those plastic sheets for her 
> to try out?
> Thanks!
> Jan
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-24 Thread Laura
I'm curious which state?  We have special provisions for testing for 
dyslexia in Texas.  Also, it can definitely be a case of 504 which is a 
mandated federal law about students with disabilities that are not labeled 
special ed.  The 504 law covers all states.
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Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:30 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] dyslexia


I have a student who probably has dyslexia.  According to our school psych, 
my state does not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this 
student will not get any help from special ed.  She really needs help with 
reading.


I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic sheets in different 
colors can help students with dyslexia read.  Do you know anything about 
this?


If this is really true, where can I buy some of those plastic sheets for 
her to try out?

Thanks!
Jan


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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-24 Thread ccm1212

 
 I purchased some years ago from the National Reading Styles Institute.  They 
are called Colored Overlays for Reading  Try this website:  
http://www.nrsi.com/index.php
I bought them years ago at a Mario Carbo seminar.  I loaned them to a friend 
whose child was having difficulty in school and she just returned them a few 
days ago so I have not used them in the classroom.


Cathy

 -- Original message from wr...@att.net: --

I have a student who probably has dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my 
state does not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this student 
will 
> not get any help from special ed.  She really needs help with reading.
> I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic sheets in different 
> colors 
> can help students with dyslexia read.  Do you know anything about this?  
> If this is really true, where can I buy some of those plastic sheets for her 
> to 
> try out?
> Thanks!
> Jan
> 
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[MOSAIC] dyslexia

2009-10-24 Thread write
I have a student who probably has dyslexia.  According to our school psych, my 
state does not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability, so this student 
will not get any help from special ed.  She really needs help with reading.

I remember years ago hearing that see-through plastic sheets in different 
colors can help students with dyslexia read.  Do you know anything about this?  

If this is really true, where can I buy some of those plastic sheets for her to 
try out?
Thanks!
Jan


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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-14 Thread The Simants

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:13 AM
Subject: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia> WSU Student
> _
Hi Kathleen!
   Reversing the letters you mentioned is very typical up to about third 
grade and cannot be viewed as a sign of dyslexia.
Actually, new technology has led to new info about dyslexia.  An area in 
the brain above the left ear is where the problem occurs!  Dyslexic people 
have difficulty hearing and separating phonemes.In small children, you will 
notice difficulty in rhyming or answering questions such as, "What is the 
word smile without the "s".
 Dyslexic readers tend to memorize words by shape. There is a great book, 
"Overcoming Dyslexia" by Sally
(not sure of last name and book is at school) Shaywitz?
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-13 Thread Libby DuVall
If he is dyslexic, we should check to see if he has a 504
 
Libby DuVall
Reading Specialist
Glenwood Intermediate School
Ball-Chatham CUSD#5
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There are a lot of views about dyslexia but most people see it as  a problem
with decoding rather than comprehension...these kids can often  comprehend at
a high level when the text is read TO them rather than when they  have to read
it themselves.  I have a little guy like this that I work with  ... he scored
advanced on the state test as a third grader when he had the  special ed
accomodation that allowed the test to be read to him. He could not,  however, 
pass
a mid first grade benchmark when asked to read for himself.

Perhaps it would be interesting to refocus the discussion on how we ensure 
that our learning disabled students benefit from comprehension strategy 
study...how to find the balance between the specialized programs needed to 
learn 
decoding and still ensure that these students understand that reading is about 
thinking...

There is no doubt, as far as I am concerned, that there are as many ways to 
teach decoding skills to disabled students are there are definitions of 
dyslexia. BUT...who knows about any research done on teaching comprehension to 
learning disabled students? Even better, what success stories are out there 
where you all have used Mosaic strategies to improve the reading skills of 
dyslexic students???

This has been a great discussion of interest to many on the list...let's 
think about how we teach comprehension strategies to this population!
Jennifer
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-13 Thread ljackson
Joy, you are so kind.  You know, I might have thought it was phobia related
to drawing , but truly there were just as many struggling to put labels to
the diagram based on descriptive writing. We spent much longer talking about
this activity than doing it.  It was not part of the plan, but there we go
again with lesson plans as realistic fiction.  The issue of comfort levels
came up among those who struggled to draw and my partner--a truly wonderful
young teacher--was quick to own up to the issue of not modeling (it was a
warm up activity).  She then modeled her drawing, letting everyone know that
because she is NOT an artist (and she is clearly not kidding),  her own
students were each safe in the knowledge that they could outdraw their
teacher.  I talked about my own experience in the classroom--I draw fairly
well and am passionate about art instruction.  I could not 'pretend' not to
draw well, but I could--and did--stress the importance of recognizing that
there were times when art supported my learning--like the way my simple
sketches and labeled drawings supported my understanding of a text--and
there were times when art WAS my learning.  I just made it very explicit to
my kids if art was to support learning or BE the learning.

I need to find a way to see Karen Ernst again.  It is probably time for me
to reread her book.  It must be here or at the office.  She did an amazing
job of using art to support writing and I need to rethink her work from the
perspective of visual imagery to support comprehension.  Ah, so many books,
so little time!!

Lori


On 8/13/07 5:43 PM, "Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lori,
>   This is very interesting. Behind my wondering about their comfort level is
> an experience I had at an Institute for Environmental Education. We were all
> gathered together at the beach for a week to learn about integrating
> environmental education across the curriculum. All the teachers were
> elementary ed, and had a wide variety of talents. We were a very relaxed
> group, and bonded well.
>
>   One of the workshops was about nature jounals, maybe it was the great talent
> of the woman who taught us, but I've always wondered what it was that made us
> feel so self-concious.
>
>   By the way, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at one of your training
> meetings! Better yet, I'd love to be a teacher! Do your teachers know how
> lucky they are? I'm so jealous of them all!
>
>   
> 
> ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I am not so certain. It was day four, a great group with only one new to
> the district teacher, so trust levels were high. As I noticed the struggle,
> we quickly encouraged them to work in groups--which made an observable
> difference in terms of stress levels. When we debriefed the strategy, just
> a couple talked about being uncomfortable with the idea of drawing. Others
> talked a lot about struggling to make a mental image. Know this, we had
> worked with visualization with fiction and not met these difficulties. In
> all honesty, I believe that we under-estimated the difficulty these teachers
> would have transferring a strategy across genre. My partner felt she should
> have modeled this more explicitly. There are certainly some lessons to be
> learned.
> 
> 1. Strategies have to be taught ACROSS genres and text types.
> 2. The ability to use a strategy well can become genre specific.
> 3. Model, model, model!!
> 
> Incidentally, this was such a great class to work with! As a fairly new
> district level coach coming from a primary classroom in the district, with a
> partner who is very young and somewhat worried by how she would be perceived
> because of that--I think we would both say we were nervous working with a
> local audience. I have presented at regional and national conferences, and
> was far more concerned about this class than any national presentation!! It
> is easier to be the expert from 40 miles (or more away) that it is to
> sometimes work with local teachers. Our own concerns were put to rest--we
> had an enjoyable week exploring strategy instruction.
> 
> Lori
> 
> Joy/NC/4
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> go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
>
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-13 Thread Joy
Lori,
  This is very interesting. Behind my wondering about their comfort level is an 
experience I had at an Institute for Environmental Education. We were all 
gathered together at the beach for a week to learn about integrating 
environmental education across the curriculum. All the teachers were elementary 
ed, and had a wide variety of talents. We were a very relaxed group, and bonded 
well.
   
  One of the workshops was about nature jounals, maybe it was the great talent 
of the woman who taught us, but I've always wondered what it was that made us 
feel so self-concious.
   
  By the way, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at one of your training 
meetings! Better yet, I'd love to be a teacher! Do your teachers know how lucky 
they are? I'm so jealous of them all!
   
  

ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I am not so certain. It was day four, a great group with only one new to
the district teacher, so trust levels were high. As I noticed the struggle,
we quickly encouraged them to work in groups--which made an observable
difference in terms of stress levels. When we debriefed the strategy, just
a couple talked about being uncomfortable with the idea of drawing. Others
talked a lot about struggling to make a mental image. Know this, we had
worked with visualization with fiction and not met these difficulties. In
all honesty, I believe that we under-estimated the difficulty these teachers
would have transferring a strategy across genre. My partner felt she should
have modeled this more explicitly. There are certainly some lessons to be
learned.

1. Strategies have to be taught ACROSS genres and text types.
2. The ability to use a strategy well can become genre specific.
3. Model, model, model!!

Incidentally, this was such a great class to work with! As a fairly new
district level coach coming from a primary classroom in the district, with a
partner who is very young and somewhat worried by how she would be perceived
because of that--I think we would both say we were nervous working with a
local audience. I have presented at regional and national conferences, and
was far more concerned about this class than any national presentation!! It
is easier to be the expert from 40 miles (or more away) that it is to
sometimes work with local teachers. Our own concerns were put to rest--we
had an enjoyable week exploring strategy instruction.

Lori

Joy/NC/4
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-13 Thread ljackson
I am not so certain.  It was day four, a great group with only one new to
the district teacher, so trust levels were high.  As I noticed the struggle,
we quickly encouraged them to work in groups--which made an observable
difference in terms of stress levels.  When we debriefed the strategy, just
a couple talked about being uncomfortable with the idea of drawing. Others
talked a lot about struggling to make a mental image.  Know this, we had
worked with visualization with fiction and not met these difficulties.  In
all honesty, I believe that we under-estimated the difficulty these teachers
would have transferring a strategy across genre.  My partner felt she should
have modeled this more explicitly.  There are certainly some lessons to be
learned.

1.  Strategies have to be taught ACROSS genres and text types.
2.  The ability to use a strategy well can become genre specific.
3.   Model, model, model!!

Incidentally, this was such a great class to work with!  As a fairly new
district level coach coming from a primary classroom in the district, with a
partner who is very young and somewhat worried by how she would be perceived
because of that--I think we would both say we were nervous working with a
local audience. I have presented at regional and national conferences, and
was far more concerned about this class than any national presentation!! It
is easier to be the expert from 40 miles (or more away) that it is to
sometimes work with local teachers.  Our own concerns were put to rest--we
had an enjoyable week exploring strategy instruction.

Lori


On 8/12/07 9:41 PM, "Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wonder if the adults struggled because they didn't want to appear "wrong" in
> front of other adults. Maybe they didn't feel comfortable taking risks. Maybe
> they thought they'd be ridiculed.
> 
> ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  That is interesting. I recently team
> taught a class with our high school
> literacy coach and she tried a couple of visualization strategies with our
> adult students that she normally uses with the kids she works with--children
> with cognitive impairments, reading disabilities and delayed readers. Her
> kids had had no trouble with them and she was a bit surprised to watch the
> adults struggle. I told her that I wondered if students with difficulties
> reading (and decoding) don't, given the opportunity, rely more successfully
> on alternative strategies. Here are the two activities:
> 
> One: Presented students with diagram (all labels stems there but with no
> words) and supporting text. Students were asked to read and then to figure
> out how to complete the labels on the diagram.
> 
> Two: Students were presented with vivid written descriptions of insect and
> asked to draw them.
> 
> Lori
> 
> 
> On 8/12/07 5:46 PM, "Joy" wrote:
> 
>> Jennifer,
>> My experience with students who have identified learning differences is that
>> they learn the strategies more readily than students who do not struggle. I
>> think it is because they have developed good listening skills to cope with
>> their lack of decoding skills. They "get" the read/think alouds more quickly,
>> and can apply them with ease with text they hear.
>> 
>> We can't read reading tests aloud to our students in NC., so until their
>> decoding improves they don't do well at all on standardized reading tests.
>> Once they become more competent with decoding, they soar.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joy/NC/4
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content
>> go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-12 Thread Joy
I wonder if the adults struggled because they didn't want to appear "wrong" in 
front of other adults. Maybe they didn't feel comfortable taking risks. Maybe 
they thought they'd be ridiculed.

ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  That is interesting. I recently team 
taught a class with our high school
literacy coach and she tried a couple of visualization strategies with our
adult students that she normally uses with the kids she works with--children
with cognitive impairments, reading disabilities and delayed readers. Her
kids had had no trouble with them and she was a bit surprised to watch the
adults struggle. I told her that I wondered if students with difficulties
reading (and decoding) don't, given the opportunity, rely more successfully
on alternative strategies. Here are the two activities:

One: Presented students with diagram (all labels stems there but with no
words) and supporting text. Students were asked to read and then to figure
out how to complete the labels on the diagram.

Two: Students were presented with vivid written descriptions of insect and
asked to draw them.

Lori


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> Jennifer,
> My experience with students who have identified learning differences is that
> they learn the strategies more readily than students who do not struggle. I
> think it is because they have developed good listening skills to cope with
> their lack of decoding skills. They "get" the read/think alouds more quickly,
> and can apply them with ease with text they hear.
> 
> We can't read reading tests aloud to our students in NC., so until their
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-12 Thread ljackson
That is interesting.  I recently team taught a class with our high school
literacy coach and she tried a couple of visualization strategies with our
adult students that she normally uses with the kids she works with--children
with cognitive impairments, reading disabilities and delayed readers.  Her
kids had had no trouble with them and she was a bit surprised to watch the
adults struggle.  I told her that I wondered if students with difficulties
reading (and decoding) don't, given the opportunity, rely more successfully
on alternative strategies.  Here are the two activities:

One:  Presented students with diagram (all labels stems there but with no
words) and supporting text.  Students were asked to read and then to figure
out how to complete the labels on the diagram.

Two:  Students were presented with vivid written descriptions of insect and
asked to draw them.

Lori


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> Jennifer,
>   My experience with students who have identified learning differences is that
> they learn the strategies more readily than students who do not struggle. I
> think it is because they have developed good listening skills to cope with
> their lack of decoding skills. They "get" the read/think alouds more quickly,
> and can apply them with ease with text they hear.
>
>   We can't read reading tests aloud to our students in NC., so until their
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> Once they become more competent with decoding, they soar.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-12 Thread Joy
Jennifer,
  My experience with students who have identified learning differences is that 
they learn the strategies more readily than students who do not struggle. I 
think it is because they have developed good listening skills to cope with 
their lack of decoding skills. They "get" the read/think alouds more quickly, 
and can apply them with ease with text they hear.
   
  We can't read reading tests aloud to our students in NC., so until their 
decoding improves they don't do well at all on standardized reading tests. Once 
they become more competent with decoding, they soar. 




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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Joy
I had a boy who wrote the first letter in his name backwards, I simply worked 
out a signal with him to correct it. If I saw his J written backwards I'd point 
to the letter on his paper, and he'd correct it. (Sometimes that took 3 or more 
prompts, but eventually he'd get it right. Now that he's in fourth grade, he's 
finally writing them correctly every time.
   
  I'm wondering if learning cursive writing had anything to do with this?


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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Bill Roberts

>I am looking for activities
>> that would be useful at the early elementary level.
>
> I believe that our responses were on topic, as I believe we are saying 
> that
> reversals in early elementary are not generally indicative of dyslexia.
>
> Lori
>
.
I agree.  Early elementary kids reverse letters and most will grow out of 
it.  I have 8th graders and sometimes they reverse letters, but usually it's 
the students who are reading at 3rd or 4th grade levels.  I wonder if anyone 
has any research about reversals not being age related, but reading level 
related?

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Creecher12
 
In a message dated 8/12/2007 2:26:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

No  wonder children have problems with letter reversals until grade  three.
>From the moment they were born they were taught object  permanence. An
apple is an apple whether facing left or right, up or down.  A lamp is a
lamp whether on a table or on the floor. Oh, but wait, now  we're telling
them a "b" is a "b" if facing right, but its a "d" if facing  left! Aye,
the english language :)



Brian Cambourne has a great story about this. He tells it so well. 
Maybe Elisa or Lori remember it word for word. 
He was telling a large group of people, I'm not sure if they were parents  or 
teachers, about object permanence and how certain letters confuse children  
because of this. He said something like "d" is always recognizable because of  
it's "d"ness. And then he went on to talk about the letters "a" and "p" and  
their "ness" and everyone was laughing and it took him a while to figure  out 
what he had said that was so funny. 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia and comprehension

2007-08-12 Thread CNJPALMER
There are a lot of views about dyslexia but most people see it as  a problem 
with decoding rather than comprehension...these kids can often  comprehend at 
a high level when the text is read TO them rather than when they  have to read 
it themselves.  I have a little guy like this that I work with  ... he scored 
advanced on the state test as a third grader when he had the  special ed 
accomodation that allowed the test to be read to him. He could not,  however, 
pass 
a mid first grade benchmark when asked to read for himself. 
 
Perhaps it would be interesting to refocus the discussion on how we ensure  
that our learning disabled students benefit from comprehension strategy  
study...how to find the balance between the specialized programs needed to 
learn  
decoding and still ensure that these students understand that reading is about  
thinking... 
 
There is no doubt, as far as I am concerned, that there are as many ways to  
teach decoding skills to disabled students are there are definitions of  
dyslexia. BUT...who knows about any research done on teaching comprehension to  
learning disabled students? Even better, what success stories are out there  
where you all have used Mosaic strategies to improve the reading skills of  
dyslexic students???
 
This has been a great discussion of interest to many on the list...let's  
think about how we teach comprehension strategies to this population!
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Carol Lau
I tell them to say "a boy kicking a ball" when writing the b (the stick is
the boy and the round part is the ball and he's kicking it the direction you
are writing.)

For d, ask them to write the round part first and say "c", then close it up
with a stick and say "d".  "CD" is easy to remember.

I wish Kinder teachers would teach students to write this way, instead of
starting both letters with the stick and then deciding which direction to
circle around.   Carol/2/CA

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Some teachers stress the b/d confusion using the word bed - this
one is hard to write - if you use your hands to make a letter b with the
left hand and a d with the right hand and hold them together, you have a bed
with a headboard and a footboard.  Most of my children did not get this one
because the concept of headboard and footboard is unknown to them.  There is
a program called "Recipe for Reading" that uses a picture of a bat and ball
for the letter b and a drum and drumstick for the letter d.  I have placed
the b picture on the left corner of the student's desk and the d picture on
the right corner.  There is another saying b before c when looking at an abc
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread ckmet
No wonder children have problems with letter reversals until grade three.
>From the moment they were born they were taught object permanence. An
apple is an apple whether facing left or right, up or down. A lamp is a
lamp whether on a table or on the floor. Oh, but wait, now we're telling
them a "b" is a "b" if facing right, but its a "d" if facing left! Aye,
the english language :)


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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Deb Kurns
I am a special education teacher.  Another way I have explained this parents
is to use a block cut out letter (we have an Ellison die cut machine) of the
letter b - flip the letter over to the right and it is a d - flip the letter
over again to the bottom and it is a q - flip it over again to the left and
it is a p. Some teachers stress the b/d confusion using the word bed - this
one is hard to write - if you use your hands to make a letter b with the
left hand and a d with the right hand and hold them together, you have a bed
with a headboard and a footboard.  Most of my children did not get this one
because the concept of headboard and footboard is unknown to them.  There is
a program called "Recipe for Reading" that uses a picture of a bat and ball
for the letter b and a drum and drumstick for the letter d.  I have placed
the b picture on the left corner of the student's desk and the d picture on
the right corner.  There is another saying b before c when looking at an abc
chart.  
Personally, I use many hands-on activities using tactile items - for example
tracing with your finger a sandpaper letter, cutting the letter of out
needle point plastic canvas and have the students place a piece of paper
over it and rub with a crayon, using shaving cream or pudding to write the
letter in.  Handwriting without Tears has specific language for teaching the
formation of letters to reduce reversals.
Deb (SpEd in IL)  

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I've done it with a chair.  Also effective.

It is important when talking with parents of these young children, who often
raise the concern regarding reversals, to acknowledge their concerns. Elisa
is so right about responding to parental concern without undo panic and
Renee has a great idea to show parents how natural it is for young children
to the p-b-q-d thing.  Letting them know it is not uncommon, is age
appropriate and that you are aware of the reversals and willing to address
them is important. 

Lori


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> On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Ernewein wrote:
>> 
>> .., I have noticed children that read d's as b's and q's as p's.
>> I would never come right out and claim that these students are in fact
>> dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway that I can.
> 
> Hi Kathleen,
> 
> Reversing letters is very common and natural until somewhere around
> third grade. When parents ask, I do this:  I stand their child up in
> front of them, facing one side. I say, "Here is your child." Then I
> turn the child around facing the other way and say, "Look! It's still
> your child!" and then I explain that for some children they may just
> not be seeing the difference yet between facing one way and facing
> another way.
> 
> Makes sense to me, anyhow!
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Beverlee Paul
If you are looking at the early elementary level, you'll want to know that 
it is as common to reverse single letters at times as it is to never reverse 
letters.  It comes from not yet having enough experience with print, and 
that tells you what activities to do.  The child needs more experience with 
print (reading), so the "activity" you'd do would be to guide the student 
through as much reading as possible.  Sometimes it is possible to kill many 
birds with one stone!


Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:13:06 -0400

Hello Everyone

I was hoping for some input in the area of dyslexia. While I now that it is 
not my job as a teacher to diagnose students, I have noticed children that 
read d's as b's and q's as p's.  I would never come right out and claim that 
these students are in fact dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway 
that I can. How does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work 
best in helping students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking 
for activities that would be useful at the early elementary level.



Kathleen Ernewein

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread shelley
Read OVERCOMING DYSLEXIA by Sally Shaywitz for a complete history, explanation 
and description of dyslexia which also includes information on assessment and 
teaching.  Dyslexia is a language processing disability that is neurologically 
based in the part of the brain which allows for phonlogical processing.  As 
such, people with dyslexia can be taught to read through a multisensory 
approach to "recircut" the neural waves to process the connections between 
speech sounds and the written symbols that represent those sounds.

Intervention Central is an excellent resource as is the INTERNATIONAL DYSLEXIA 
ASSOCIATION.
LDONLINE and SCHWAB LEARNING are excellent web based resources.

Shelley Levy
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>Hello Everyone
>
>
>
>I was hoping for some input in the area of dyslexia. While I now that it is 
>not my job as a teacher to diagnose students, I have noticed children that 
>read d's as b's and q's as p's. I would never come right out and claim that 
>these students are in fact dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway 
>that I can. How does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work best 
>in helping students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking for 
>activities that would be useful at the early elementary level. 
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>Kathleen Ernewein
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread ljackson
I am looking for activities
> that would be useful at the early elementary level.

I believe that our responses were on topic, as I believe we are saying that
reversals in early elementary are not generally indicative of dyslexia.

Lori


On 8/12/07 10:17 AM, "Mary Kaleta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think the question was ...
> 
> How does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work best in helping
> students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking for activities
> that would be useful at the early elementary level. Kathleen Ernewein
>> 
>> WSU Student
> 
> 
> I have found that with older students it does affect comprehension quite a
> bit. These dylexic students struggled with word recognition and therefore do
> not get much meaning from the text. I have also found that reversals do not
> seem to affect comprehension much. When working with these students you must
> teach using as many modalities as you can. You teach to the students
> strength be it visual, auditory or tactile. Working one on one or in a small
> group helps these students too. My experience is that not too many students
> are labeled dyslexic for many reasons and usually not in the early grades.
> But there are programs, such as Orton-Gillingham, that seem to help these
> students.
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Mary Kaleta
I think the question was ...

How does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work best in helping 
students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking for activities 
that would be useful at the early elementary level. Kathleen Ernewein
>
>WSU Student


I have found that with older students it does affect comprehension quite a 
bit. These dylexic students struggled with word recognition and therefore do 
not get much meaning from the text. I have also found that reversals do not 
seem to affect comprehension much. When working with these students you must 
teach using as many modalities as you can. You teach to the students 
strength be it visual, auditory or tactile. Working one on one or in a small 
group helps these students too. My experience is that not too many students 
are labeled dyslexic for many reasons and usually not in the early grades. 
But there are programs, such as Orton-Gillingham, that seem to help these 
students.

Mary IL/sped/8

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Michelle Smith
Kathleen,

There is a book called Overcoming Dyslexia that is very good.  The  
author is Sally Shayvitz.   I agree with the other posters.  Letter  
reversals are very common.  They do not always and in most cases do  
not indicate dyslexia.  In most cases the reversals stop between 2nd  
and 3rd grade.

Michelle

On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Ernewein wrote:

> Hello Everyone
>
>
>
> I was hoping for some input in the area of dyslexia. While I now  
> that it is not my job as a teacher to diagnose students, I have  
> noticed children that read d's as b's and q's as p's.  I would  
> never come right out and claim that these students are in fact  
> dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway that I can. How  
> does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work best in  
> helping students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking  
> for activities that would be useful at the early elementary level.
>
>
>
> Kathleen Ernewein
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> WSU Student
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread ljackson
I've done it with a chair.  Also effective.

It is important when talking with parents of these young children, who often
raise the concern regarding reversals, to acknowledge their concerns. Elisa
is so right about responding to parental concern without undo panic and
Renee has a great idea to show parents how natural it is for young children
to the p-b-q-d thing.  Letting them know it is not uncommon, is age
appropriate and that you are aware of the reversals and willing to address
them is important. 

Lori


On 8/12/07 9:04 AM, "Renee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Ernewein wrote:
>> 
>> .., I have noticed children that read d's as b's and q's as p's.
>> I would never come right out and claim that these students are in fact
>> dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway that I can.
> 
> Hi Kathleen,
> 
> Reversing letters is very common and natural until somewhere around
> third grade. When parents ask, I do this:  I stand their child up in
> front of them, facing one side. I say, "Here is your child." Then I
> turn the child around facing the other way and say, "Look! It's still
> your child!" and then I explain that for some children they may just
> not be seeing the difference yet between facing one way and facing
> another way.
> 
> Makes sense to me, anyhow!
> Renee
> 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Renee

On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Ernewein wrote:
>
> .., I have noticed children that read d's as b's and q's as p's.  
> I would never come right out and claim that these students are in fact 
> dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway that I can.

Hi Kathleen,

Reversing letters is very common and natural until somewhere around 
third grade. When parents ask, I do this:  I stand their child up in 
front of them, facing one side. I say, "Here is your child." Then I 
turn the child around facing the other way and say, "Look! It's still 
your child!" and then I explain that for some children they may just 
not be seeing the difference yet between facing one way and facing 
another way.

Makes sense to me, anyhow!
Renee

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Something else I try with my kids is to see if they can identify that their 
letter is written backwards.  I do this by pointing to the correct letter
on an alphabet chart on their desk or by writing the letter myself on a
piece of paper.  If they can tell the difference and/or fix it then I don't
worry about it any further and know that it will correct itself later on.  
To be quite honest, because I know it's age appropriate, I primarily
give this prompt when a parent is concerned about this and then usually 
with the parent present so they can see that it's OK.  Sometimes, I just
suggest that they try this at home with their child.  
Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada




Reversals are considered age appropriate until 9. Don't worry too much.  I
generally just used a cue like, "Something's walking backwards..." 
Lori


> Hello Everyone
> 
> 
> 
> I was hoping for some input in the area of dyslexia. While I now that it is
> not my job as a teacher to diagnose students, I have noticed children that
> read d's as b's and q's as p's.  I would never come right out and claim that
> these students are in fact dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway
> that I can. How does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work best
> in helping students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking for
> activities that would be useful at the early elementary level.
> 
> 
> 
> Kathleen Ernewein
> 
> WSU Student
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread ljackson
Reversals are considered age appropriate until 9. Don't worry too much.  I
generally just used a cue like, "Something's walking backwards..."  If your
students are older, perhaps you should be more concerned and others with
more knowledge about Dyslexia can take on that issue.

Lori


On 8/12/07 7:13 AM, "Kathleen Ernewein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Everyone
> 
> 
> 
> I was hoping for some input in the area of dyslexia. While I now that it is
> not my job as a teacher to diagnose students, I have noticed children that
> read d's as b's and q's as p's.  I would never come right out and claim that
> these students are in fact dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway
> that I can. How does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work best
> in helping students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking for
> activities that would be useful at the early elementary level.
> 
> 
> 
> Kathleen Ernewein
> 
> WSU Student
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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread DeMilleReed
Kathleen,
 
Dyslexia seems to be a term with as many definitions as people who use  it.  
In some school districts, the word is almost tabu.  Letter  reversals can be 
developmental and are not always a predictor of reading  problems, especially 
depending on the age of the reader.  
 
I recommend reading to get some more background on dyslexia.  LDonline  
(learning disabilities online) has some interesting information.  I also  
recommend 
reading.org (International Reading Association).  There are many,  many other 
sources.  There is also the work of Bennett and Sally Shaywitz  (Yale) 
involving brain research on the actual brain pathways used by able  readers 
compared 
to those that struggle with reading.  Over time, I have  found that there is 
much conflicting information and research and I think each  of us has to come 
to our own understanding. 
 
Cathy
 
K-1 Title I Reading



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[MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2007-08-12 Thread Kathleen Ernewein
Hello Everyone



I was hoping for some input in the area of dyslexia. While I now that it is not 
my job as a teacher to diagnose students, I have noticed children that read d's 
as b's and q's as p's.  I would never come right out and claim that these 
students are in fact dyslexic, but I would like to help them in anyway that I 
can. How does dyslexia affect Comprehension? What strategies work best in 
helping students that may suffer from this condition? I am looking for 
activities that would be useful at the early elementary level. 



Kathleen Ernewein

WSU Student
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