Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[JTK]

Ben Tremblay wrote:
> 
> JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > DeMoN LaG wrote:
> > > JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:3C5DB7AD.6578A3D7
> > > @hgdjaggd.com, on 03 Feb 2002:
> > > >  the cache bug,
> > > Sorry, I don't recall you "fixing" this one, just bitching for a week
> > > when a 30 second "Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Cache, Clear disk cache"
> > > would have fixed it for you.  Do you have a bug number, or a copy of the
> > > patch you "made" that fixed this bug?
> > Fished in LaGgy.  As I already posted, that's not me, but somebody so
> > empty inside that they want, need, to pretend they're me.
> I was going to call you a pathetic pain in the ass ...

But of course you thought better of it.

> I've been
> reading the NG for 30 minutes or so and I' totally sick of you ...

It was not meant that all should hear.

> but
> it just dawned on me: you think you're contributing by playing devil's
> advocate!

That would require a "devil" to advocate, would it not?

> OMG, that's so sad!

Well I'll agree with you there; this project is simply too far gone for
even me to resurrect, and it's sad, almost sick in a way, that I even
bother trying.  But this St. Jude medal weighs heavy upon my breast.

> You think straining at gnats is evidence of your
> ability?

Serving up week-old CNN is a "gnat"?

> You poor dear thing! You know, there's the _chance_ that you
> aren't iredeemably compulsive ...

Nope, none.  I'm as compulsive as they get when it comes to software
that's actually usable.

> I mean, vanishing slight that it
> might be, there's a chance that the dumb-assed persistence you share
> with so many coders might be turned to good use.
> 
> Is there a chance that you can concentrate on something for as long as
> u 15 or 20 minutes?

What was that again?  Sorry, I wasn't concentrating.

> Gawd knows XCOPMPTR is as close to rocket
> science as I've seen lately, but there's more to the project than CPP
> ... and a damned site more than just pissing over everything 24/7
> 

I don't follow... you're suggesting that *urine* would cure what ails
Mozilla?  Well I don't know, guess we've tried everything else

Re: onmousewheel=""

[Travis Crump]

Maybe I am missing something, but in the place where they said they were 
going to implement it, did they say why?  The mousewheel is essentially 
just the mouse equivalent of the down and up arrows on the keyboard, 
what conceivable use could an "onmousewheel" event have?

Sören Kuklau wrote:
> Duh, just read that Microsoft were to implement "onmousewheel" as 
> attribute in IE 6 SP1. Then checked whether HTML 4.01 and / or XHTML 1.1 
> have it - which is unsurprisingly not the case. So I have to ask: when 
> will they finally stop with the standards-violation-crap.

Re: SVG Support?

[daa]

Siegfried Heintze wrote:

> What is the scoop with SVG support? Are those croczilla folks still working
> on it? Is anyone working on it?
>
> I'm really need  for my web presentation and I'm wondering if I
> can expect it soon. I bought corel draw specifically becaue it could output
> SVG but now I have learned that Mozilla only takes a small subset of SVG.

svg is slowly coming along , parts are working , but lots remains to do.

there are daily win32 svg+mathml builds posted to :
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-win32-svg-mathml.zip

dave

Re: onmousewheel=""

[grayrest]

Sören Kuklau wrote:
> Duh, just read that Microsoft were to implement "onmousewheel" as 
> attribute in IE 6 SP1. Then checked whether HTML 4.01 and / or XHTML 1.1 
> have it - which is unsurprisingly not the case. So I have to ask: when 
> will they finally stop with the standards-violation-crap.

The question is not whether they'll stop standards violations (we know 
they won't, it keeps developers locked into their product), but rather 
when will they ADD REAL SUPPORT FOR PNG. >:-(

Re: slashdot.org not getting saved in history?

[grayrest]

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> For some reason slashdot.org isnt being saved in the URL history and 
> isnt autocompleting when I type it in. Is there a reason for that or is 
> it a problem on my end (like a corrupt history)
> 

worksforme 2002012608, try deleting history.mab in your user directory.

Re: SVG Support?

[grayrest]

Siegfried Heintze wrote:
> What is the scoop with SVG support? Are those croczilla folks still working
> on it? Is anyone working on it?
> 
> I'm really need  for my web presentation and I'm wondering if I
> can expect it soon. I bought corel draw specifically becaue it could output
> SVG but now I have learned that Mozilla only takes a small subset of SVG.
> 

You can get an SVG/MathML enabled build for win32 (nightlies only) by 
hitting up ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/ but I've 
heard of people having trouble with it. I seem to recall the Adobe 
Plugin working with moz, but it's been a while and I could just be 
making that up :].

grayrest

onmousewheel=""

[Sören Kuklau]

Duh, just read that Microsoft were to implement "onmousewheel" as 
attribute in IE 6 SP1. Then checked whether HTML 4.01 and / or XHTML 1.1 
have it - which is unsurprisingly not the case. So I have to ask: when 
will they finally stop with the standards-violation-crap.
-- 
Regards,
Sören Kuklau ('Chucker')
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can anybody help

[Bob Lathe]

I have used Netscape for 15 years. I have 6 Compaq computers and just 
bought a new 5660AP, 1.8 with XP OEM. The first thing I did was load 
Netscape 6.2-1 and made it the default mail/browser.

My problem is that it will not auto connect to the server. In other 
words when I open netscape it does not even try to dial up However 
it does with Explorer even though Netscape is the default!! Is this a BG 
special???

Can anybody help.

Bob Lathe

Re: Java2 1.4.0 Release Candidate not compatible with Mozilla 0.9.8 for Windows?

[Jim Patterson]

Jeffrey W. Franklin wrote:
> I am having trouble getting Java2 Runtime Plugin 1.4 Release Candidate
> to run with Mozilla 0.9.8 and also Netscape 4.7x on Windows platforms.
> I am getting a the following error:
> 
> The Java Runtime Environment cannot be loaded from
> <\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll>
> 
> The error box title is Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4 Fatal Error.
> 
> What is really strange, this version of Java Runtime is working fine
> with Opera 6.  The last beta version of Java Runtime Plugin was the
> exact opposite working on Netscape 4.7x and Mozilla but not Opera 6.
> 
> Anyone else having this problem?  Anyone gotten this to work?

Take a look in netscape.public.mozilla.java . You aren't alone. It seems 
to have been broken over a month ago, and isn't back together yet.

Java 2 version 1.3 works just fine for me though (if that is any help).

-- 
Jim Patterson
Ottawa, Ont
CANADA

slashdot.org not getting saved in history?

[Jonathan Wilson]

For some reason slashdot.org isnt being saved in the URL history and 
isnt autocompleting when I type it in. Is there a reason for that or is 
it a problem on my end (like a corrupt history)

Re: How can I import all my newsgoups from another Moz profile?

[Christopher Jahn]

And it came to pass that Al Rider wrote:

> Incidently, I asked how to import or copy the newsgroups,
> not mail. 

I can read, if I can't type.  Substitute NEWS for MAIL.

> 
> That's the way the old Netscape [e.g. 4x] worked; but Moz
> DOES NOT. 
> 
> Try it.

Hmm, works here.
But it should import the profile (including news) during 
install.

OK, try this:

re-run the installer
"(path)/mozilla.exe" -installer





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Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Ben Tremblay]

dman84 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Chris, that is where I come in.  I have a project that I'd like to start 
> after mozilla's 1.0 codebase is API fixed.. to then create a new bugzill 
> a tool.. that will help this problem.  I need to learn the programming 
> of the XUL & XML, and probably how all the XPCOM & XPAPPS, Tools & 
> Widgets stuff work..
No entailment here ... that's like saying you need to master C++ to
reconceptualize bug tracking; it just ain't so. Those requirements are
excessive.

>   I would need to write specs first too.
Yaa, now that's the track you need to follow.

> It only exists as a project  idea on paper.
Thongs have a way of starting that way, yes? Now, if you want to go
off track real quick, set yourself the goal of learning XML, and
XPCOM, and all of that. (Of course I'm not depreciating an
understanding of how the system works ... for that matter, get a good
sense of DOM while you're at it.)

The best project manager I worked with had precious little
appreciation for the finer points of how embedded processors worked
with phased-array switching, and his intelligent triage paid off in
spades.

hfx_ben

p.s. ain't nuthin' wrong with lending a hand on triage!

Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Ben Tremblay]

JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> jesus X wrote:
> > Blake Ross wrote:
> > > Fact: you are terribly misinformed.
> > > The number of bugs has skyrocketed over the years because the number of
> > > people reporting them has skyrocketed over the years, and because we
> > > have more features and components than we used to. [...]
> > You are 100% right. In fact, I call it Bugzilla Inflation, and go into
> > detail in that article under the Bugzilla Inflation and Bugzilla Facts
> > sections. thanks go to Asa for helping me compile those numbers, too.
> AH!  So *THE LORD* is the one behind that article!  Wonderful!  Why no
> attribution, or did I just miss it?
What is this in aid of? We all know you're an asshole ... no need for
further evidence of that.

> Anyway, perhaps then rabbi you could explain this little gem of apologetics
> from that gem of an apologetic article:
> "To get technical for just a moment, the total number of bugs at any
> given time is a function of the number of Bugzilla reporters, not a
> function of the quality of Mozilla."
> So you mean to say that:
> N_bugs_in_bugzilla = A * N_registered_bugzilla_users
> for some suitable A?

Ever heard of abstraction, dipshit? How about Heisenburg's cat? How
about the sound of a tree falling if no one's there to hear it? How
about granularity? Ooops, I forgot that your thought is contrained by
the need to piss on something.

Given a complex project, the number of bugs reported is directly
related to the number of eyes looking and the number of hands typing,
yes. Welcome to the wonderful world of OpenSource, ya friggin' twit.

> All it does then is track entries made by registered users, which may in
> fact be bugs in Mozilla, or bugs in other products, or recipies, or
> porn, or maybe they're just using it as a substitute for NNTP or email,
> whatever.
yada yada yada ... the sound of one twit flapping

> BTW: I know you won't take this for what it's worth, but I read both
> articles in their entirety.  While yours is written better, his is more
> factually correct and less biased.

*Yikes!* I _knew_ you weren't iredeemable! *I'mma gonna shoot that
word!* _credit where credit is due_ ... wow ... JTK is not _entirely_
bereft of positive aspects! Man, ain't that a light on the horizon!

hfx_ben

Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Ben Tremblay]

JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> DeMoN LaG wrote:
> > JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:3C5DB7AD.6578A3D7
> > @hgdjaggd.com, on 03 Feb 2002:
> > >  the cache bug,
> > Sorry, I don't recall you "fixing" this one, just bitching for a week
> > when a 30 second "Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Cache, Clear disk cache"
> > would have fixed it for you.  Do you have a bug number, or a copy of the
> > patch you "made" that fixed this bug?
> Fished in LaGgy.  As I already posted, that's not me, but somebody so
> empty inside that they want, need, to pretend they're me.
I was going to call you a pathetic pain in the ass ... I've been
reading the NG for 30 minutes or so and I' totally sick of you ... but
it just dawned on me: you think you're contributing by playing devil's
advocate!
OMG, that's so sad! You think straining at gnats is evidence of your
ability? You poor dear thing! You know, there's the _chance_ that you
aren't iredeemably compulsive ... I mean, vanishing slight that it
might be, there's a chance that the dumb-assed persistence you share
with so many coders might be turned to good use.

Is there a chance that you can concentrate on something for as long as
u 15 or 20 minutes? Gawd knows XCOPMPTR is as close to rocket
science as I've seen lately, but there's more to the project than CPP
... and a damned site more than just pissing over everything 24/7

hfx_ben

Re: LittleMozilla is updated for latest builds (0.9.8-)

[Ben Tremblay]

Fulvio Perini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Mozilla0.9.6 seemed on its way to something,but things went downhill after
> that. Please,tell me that I am wrong.
> Thanks.
To echo someone else's succinct reply, you're wrong. But that misses
the point ... the expectation of linear progress is *sigh* not
appreciative of how regressions come about. We don't sit around in
circles testing our faith by supplicating the deities of software,
manifesting our virtue by appealing to the gods for effective patches
... it doesn't work like that.

If you want a sense of what's entailed in the development cycle, why
doncha hike over and crawl the material at mozilla.org ... this isn't
a commerical product where you're getting intentionally incremental
releases *glares in the general direction of Redmond* ... these are
snapshots of a development cycle that is, politics aside, always
wheels within wheels. This project is _paradigmatic_ of "herding
cats", and in a good number of cases _new breeds_ of cats (who'd uh
thunk that XUL rhymes with "zool"?!) Which isn't to intimate that it's
a paradigm of good process, just that's it's an awesome project and
IMHO a really whack vision.

Grunting from effort is a very nice alternative to groaning with
disatisfaction. (Besides which, I doubt that there's another
opportunity for Joe Public to crawl around on the inside watching how
this stuff is actually produced!)

totally freakin' amazing ... and OpenSource to boot!

hfx_ben

Re: Mozilla becomes viable in 2007 (if the world stands still) (was: Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!)

[JTK]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> 
> JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on
> 05 Feb 2002:
> 
> > 0.73%.  Suck it down LaGgy.
> >
> 
> http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat_trends.htm
> 
> "
> * Mozilla and Netscape 6.x: ~0.85% of page accesses. This has grown
> significantly since the release of Netscape 6.1.
> "
>

Yeah, according to my numbers, a whopping 2.6 ***TIMES*** since a year
ago.  From a mere 0.28% to an embarassing 0.73% now.

But look out in 2007!!!

Pfhht.

Re: Mozilla becomes viable in 2007 (if the world stands still) (was: Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!)

[Ben Tremblay]

DeMoN LaG  wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 
> 05 Feb 2002:
> > 0.73%.  Suck it down LaGgy.
> http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat_trends.htm
> * Mozilla and Netscape 6.x: ~0.85% of page accesses. This has grown 
> significantly since the release of Netscape 6.1.
> Since it already beat's Opera's stats on the same 3 sources, I'd say 
> it's winning.  One could argue that Opera can spoof as IE, but so can 
> Mozilla, so that's a moot point.
Why are you engaging him in a pissing contest? First, he's full of
piss, as anyone readings these NGs can see. Second, if *!Ha!* he
should happen to see sense one day, what would he have left?
FUD's for chumps.

hfx_ben

Re: Moz 0.9.8 completely fails for me

[Ben Tremblay]

basic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> note that it is advisable to uninstall previous versions or at least install a 
> new version to a seperate directory because there might be conflicts and 
> problems due to differences between versions (specially if one has installed 
> addons and have done some customization).
Bearing in mind that nightlies are there for developers / hackers,
this is entirely reasonable. The milestones are always there for folkz
who want to take the moz-lizard for a test flight.
 
> Sometimes older profiles could also be causing issues. If you want you could 
> investigate exactly what is causing the problem (by maybe trying to narrow
> down  which file and then which line is causing the problem).
Good entry into productive hacking / debugging. Not being a C
programmer doens't mean not getting into the cycle.

> Alternatively backup of all your profiles (including the registry.dat file). 
1
> Delete the profiles dir (including the registry.dat file).
2

> Start moz. Create new profiles.
Count that as one more ... so, 3

> Shut down moz.
3.5

> copy old profiles info into new profiles.
4.5 ... no, 5

> remember not  to copy XUL.mfl and panacea.dat.
*sigh*

> Remember to search all files within the profile for the absolute path of
> the old profile (there is at least some in the the  prefs.js file if you are
> using mailnews) and replace it with the path of the new  profile.
Good grief!   I'm gonna call it 7 steps, just cuz I'm feeling grouchy.


_That_ is not so simple; _that_ is a royal pain.
The fact that so many folkz are diligent about this sorta thing (bad
in the beginning, bad in the end ... ya can't be debugging if you
don't know what you started with) doesn't change the fact that it's a
royal pain. For all those good people who are looking at this as the
only thing to do (which it is, if you wanna walk a deterministic
path), I think it should be acknowledged as such.

> basic
hfx_ben

Java2 1.4.0 Release Candidate not compatible with Mozilla 0.9.8 for Windows?

[Jeffrey W. Franklin]

I am having trouble getting Java2 Runtime Plugin 1.4 Release Candidate
to run with Mozilla 0.9.8 and also Netscape 4.7x on Windows platforms.
I am getting a the following error:

The Java Runtime Environment cannot be loaded from
<\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll>

The error box title is Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4 Fatal Error.

What is really strange, this version of Java Runtime is working fine
with Opera 6.  The last beta version of Java Runtime Plugin was the
exact opposite working on Netscape 4.7x and Mozilla but not Opera 6.

Anyone else having this problem?  Anyone gotten this to work?

Thank-you kindly in advance.

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SVG Support?

[Siegfried Heintze]

What is the scoop with SVG support? Are those croczilla folks still working
on it? Is anyone working on it?

I'm really need  for my web presentation and I'm wondering if I
can expect it soon. I bought corel draw specifically becaue it could output
SVG but now I have learned that Mozilla only takes a small subset of SVG.

 Thanks,
 Sieg

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Re: In Agent just use kill filter Author: JTK

[spot]

On Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:57:31 GMT, El Torito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>works great!


It does!  This is a great newgroup again.

Re: Wish - key bindings for switching tabs

[Neil Durant]

Pratik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On 02/05/2002 02:53 PM, Neil Durant wrote:
>> It would be great to be able have key bindings for moving to the 
>>next/previous Mozilla tab window!
>
>Your wish was granted a long time ago. Try Ctrl-PgUp, Ctrl-PgDown

Aha, splendid, thanks!  8)

Is this documented anywhere in Mozilla?  I couldn't find it in the help.

Neil
-- 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Google search from URL line gone?

[Dan Howard]

grayrest wrote:
> Bill Sheppard wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> Just installed Moz 0.98.  It looks like the Google search option while 
>> entering text in the URL box is gone.  Is this by design?
>>
>> Bill
>>
> 
> No, I'm using 0.9.8+ (nighlies since the branch and the google search 
> has always been there, as well as on branch builds and pre-branch). You 
> may want to check the preferences to make sure that google is your 
> selected search engine (edit>preferences>navigator>Internet Search), but 
> I find it more convenient to set up a keyword shortcut, as seen at 
> . I set gg for a 
> google search, gi for a google image search, ggr for a google group 
> search, it's much easier.
> 
> grayrest
> 

Also check the Location Bar Autocomplete setting on the Smart Browsing 
tab.  Advanced lets you control the autocomplete behavior, including 
whether to show a search link.

Re: Just installed Mozilla 0.9.8 (Linux)

[Kryptolus]

John F. Kohler wrote:
> Hello, everyone,
> 
> I just installed the rpm version of 0.9.8 in my AMD PC under Red Hat
> Linux 7.2
> and it is working ok so far.
> 
> It does not have Java in it as received.  I need to learn where to
> download
> a copy of Java to use with the browser.
> 
> John Kohler
> Daly City
> 
> 
> 
> 

http://java.sun.com ... have fun =)

Just installed Mozilla 0.9.8 (Linux)

[John F. Kohler]

Hello, everyone,

I just installed the rpm version of 0.9.8 in my AMD PC under Red Hat
Linux 7.2
and it is working ok so far.

It does not have Java in it as received.  I need to learn where to
download
a copy of Java to use with the browser.

John Kohler
Daly City

Re: 0.9.8 and news.bbc.co.uk

[David King]

I see the large font problem, which is fixed by hitting the reload 
button, except as you note the "around the world" section.

I'd suggest you file a bug report on this.

I'm running Win 98SE using 0.9.8 release. (2002020406)

michael lefevre wrote:
> just upgraded from 0.9.7 and now http://news.bbc.co.uk/ looks rather
> screwy (fonts too large for the spaces they are in - selecting the text
> selects the area where the text should be, not where it is - first page
> load all the news was in a large font, on reloading the page only the
> "around the world now" section was affected.

Re: installing milestones

[Bill Sheppard]

Bob Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I have been installing milestones since about 0.9.1.
>They have worked well.
>1. uninstall mozilla
>2. copy plugins to temp dir
>3. remove directory just in case \program files\mozilla.org
>4. install milestone
>5. copy plugins back

>I have read that some people recommend removing the profile info also. 
>What are the advantages? Disadvantages?
>If I do it how do I save my mail history?
>1. copy "Mail" and "ImapMail" dirs to temp
>2. Setup new profile
>3. copy back mail dirs.

>Would this work? Is there a better way?

I've been taking a simpler approach.  When I see a new release is available 
(only been doing this with milestones) I rename the old Mozilla directory to 
Mozilla.97 (or whatever's appropriate), install the new release to Mozilla 
(which means it is creating a new directory), and then delete the second 
previous version (Mozilla.96).  This means that I've still got the old version 
to fall back on if necessary, and I can easily copy plugins from the previous 
version to the current version.  I haven't seen any problems with profile 
information, although you could certainly take the advice of the previous 
poster and delete all profile information other than bookmarks, news, mail, 
and prefs.

Bill
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  *@@*  
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Re: Mozilla becomes viable in 2007 (if the world stands still) (was: Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!)

[rkaa]

JTK wrote:
[snip]

> 0.73%.

[snip]

TheCounter.Com is the only counter I found which over the past half year 
shows Windows 3.* growth accellerating. To me that sounds unlikely to be 
correct, and it might indicate that theCounter.com are also targeting 
some "narrow groups".

But regardless: I find a timeline more interesting than a single figure.
So here are the "worst case" numbers: theCounter.com's percentages for 
"Netscape 5" and Netscape 6.* at end of months:

2001   2001   2001   2002
June   Okt.   Nov.   Jan.

0.26   0.51   0.66   0.86


It may be accurate or not, but it does seems to show a trend. It also 
indicates that since July 2001, users have more than tripled.

During these months, corresponding figures for Opera are:

0.28   0.31   0.33   0.41

Not impressive, but I thought it might interest.


K.

Re: Odd page rendering

[Mikhail Sogrine]

barney wrote:
> http://www.everywine.co.uk/preston17/brownbros/BBgift.html
> 
> When this page is first loaded, it's usually layed out all wrong.  Hit
> Reload, and the layout fixes itself for the most part, but the
> stylesheet isn't applied.  I didn't see anything in the source code that
> might cause this odd rendering, then I looked at the Page Info and
> Character Encoding UTF-16LE caught my eye.  There isn't any charset
> coded in the page itself, so I guess this is coming from the server.
> 
> Is UTF-16LE for real, and is it the likely reason the page renders badly
> and the stylesheet is ignored?  BTW, all of the links on this page lead
> to generated pages, iso-8859-1, that render perfectly fine, styles and
> all.  This static page seems to be the odd man out.
> 
> 

For me it was even stranger. First, page was loaded and looked fine. But 
after reload, it showed the html-text in some unicode format, probably 
not recognizing that it is unicode (i.e. it shows 2 symbols for 1 
character). Changing charset manually to UTF-16LE fixes page again.

Re: Odd page rendering

[barney]

Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
> barney wrote:
>> http://www.everywine.co.uk/preston17/brownbros/BBgift.html
>> 
>> When this page is first loaded, it's usually layed out all wrong.  Hit
>> Reload, and the layout fixes itself for the most part, but the
>> stylesheet isn't applied.
> 
> I see a lot of questions marks instead of letters. Reload fixes it. No 
> problems with the style sheet for me.
> 
> 

At least you're initially seeing question marks, so there is something
quirky about this page.  In mozilla, my default font gets used, but I
see a mix of question marks and Asian characters in the status bar when
I mousover links.  It's odd that the stylesheet loads for you and
refuses to do so for me.

In NS 6.2 (old stuff, I know), all I see is a bunch of squares instead
of text no matter what character encoding or font I pick.  At least it's
readable in mozilla, but nothing seems to get the stylesheet loaded on
this page.  It loads just dandy the first time in NS4 and Opera5.

I notice you're in Europe, I'm in the US, and it's a UK site.  Maybe
it's a European thing that I don't happen to have in my mozilla or NS6
configuration?  I'd hate to file a bug only to find out it's something
in my setup.  That's embarassing. :)

Re: Default paper size

[Parish]

Pratik wrote:
> On 02/05/2002 02:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> is there a way to set the default paper size to a4? Mozilla doesn't 
>> remember a thing about the paper size.
>> 
>> Thanx
>> 
>> Christoph
>> 
>> 
> 
> Thats annonying bug 118563
> 
> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118563
> 

It just got my vote.

> Pratik.
> 
> 



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Re: Default paper size

[Parish]

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
> Try quiting Moz/N6/ Communicator/whatever then going to printer setup
> from Control Panels (I believe I'm right on this been a while since I
> looked at PC side of things.) go to printer Setup and try setting to A4 there.
> 

It is already set to A4 there, and always has been, every other app I 
print from defaults to A4. This is also true at work where my PC alsd 
runs W2K and has 5 printers (all network) set up - all default to A4 in 
every app.

It appears to be Moz specific. I'll keep digging..


> That should make it systemwide.  Then go back to
> Moz/N6/Communicator/Whatever and see what is set.
> 
> Report back with results.
> 
> Parish wrote:
>> 
>> Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
>>  > I don't know about PC/UNIX side of things but, Page size (Print) Mac is
>>  > the responsibility of the print Driver/Chooser file for the printer.
>>  > Communicator/Moz/Netscape 6 add specific items; but page size is not the
>>  > browser's part.  The browser typically  sets: Header and footer items
>>  > whether they print left, right, Center. Whether backgrounds are printed.
>>  > And whether "fit to page", is turned on or off. Nothing else.
>>  >
>>  > Page size is detremined between the Printer, Print driver and the
>> Computer.
>>  >
>> 
>> Hmmm, Moz appears to be "interfering" with that on Windows (W2K at least).
>> 
>> I just printed out this message, File->Print, then clicked the
>> Properties button next to the printer list drop-down, then, on the next
>> dialogue (the layout may vary here depending on your printer - mine's an
>> HP 610C), clicked Advanced on the Layout tab and the paper size was
>> Letter. I changed it to A4, printed the message, then did File->Print
>> again, checked the properties and the paper size had reverted to Letter.
>> 
>> I found a pref, print.use_global_printsettings, which is set to "false".
>> I tried changing that to "true" (and restarting Moz) but it made no
>> difference.
>> 
>>  > On modern USB HP Printers when runing the Driver file(s) The installer
>>  > ask whether to set A4 or 8-1/2 x11 as default setup. (at least the
>>  > installer for the 990cse Does).
>>  >
>>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> Hello,
>>  >>
>>  >> is there a way to set the default paper size to a4? Mozilla doesn't
>>  >> remember a thing about the paper size.
>>  >>
>>  >> Thanx
>>  >>
>>  >> Christoph
>>  >
>>  >
>> 
>> --
>> Software is like sex, it's better when it's free  - Linus Torvalds
>> 
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> 
> 



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Re: Moz 0.9.8 completely fails for me

[basic]

note that it is advisable to uninstall previous versions or at least install a 
new version to a seperate directory because there might be conflicts and 
problems due to differences between versions (specially if one has installed 
addons and have done some customization).

Sometimes older profiles could also be causing issues. If you want you could 
investigate exactly what is causing the problem (by maybe trying to narrow down 
which file and then which line is causing the problem).

Alternatively backup of all your profiles (including the registry.dat file). 
Delete the profiles dir (including the registry.dat file). Start moz. Create new 
profiles. Shut down moz. copy old profiles info into new profiles. remember not 
to copy XUL.mfl and panacea.dat. Remember to search all files within the profile 
for the absolute path of the old profile (there is at least some in the the 
prefs.js file if you are using mailnews) and replace it with the path of the new 
profile.

basic

Jeroen Roeterd wrote:
> Marc Schuette wrote:
> 
>> i always uninstall old version first and then install new version. 
>> have not
>> had a problem with any of the main point releases. uninstall first then
>> install no matter jeroen says.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> I just installed the talkback installer over a .97 and it is working
>>> perfectly. Windows 2000.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Jeroen Roeterd
>>>
> 
> I just wanted to point out that installing over an old install is not 
> always generating a problem. I was just informing everybody that, 
> according to my experience, it is not a must to uninstall 0.97 first. 
> You can do it, sure why not.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Greetings,
> Jeroen Roeterd
> 

Re: LittleMozilla is updated for latest builds (0.9.8-)

[Bork]

<...>
> Mozilla0.9.6 seemed on its way to something,but things went downhill after
> that. Please,tell me that I am wrong.
> Thanks.
> --
> Fulvio Perini
 Omaha,NE 68124


Yoa are wrong ;))
Tomek

Is there a simple way to limit the browser to only one window?

[Oliver White]

Hi folks,

we're developing a web based reports system for our train control
system, based on the mozilla browser with a few XUL customisations.
We'd like to run one and only one window, so that should mozilla be
launched again, the currently running window is put into focus, or if
there is no window open, a new one is launched.

If you kind folks could point me to the appropriate section of code,
that would be great.

TIA,

Oliver White

0.9.8 and news.bbc.co.uk

[michael lefevre]

just upgraded from 0.9.7 and now http://news.bbc.co.uk/ looks rather
screwy (fonts too large for the spaces they are in - selecting the text
selects the area where the text should be, not where it is - first page
load all the news was in a large font, on reloading the page only the
"around the world now" section was affected.

does this happen to others? is this a mozilla problem or a problem with
the site?

i'm using:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204

-- 
michael

RE: mozilla.org releases Mozilla 0.9.8

[Curt Hibbs]

How do I get a list of the 1500 bugs that were fixed?

Thanks,
Curt Hibbs

> -Original Message-
> From: Asa Dotzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: mozilla.org releases Mozilla 0.9.8
> 
> 
> On February 4, 2002 mozilla.org made available for download binaries of 
> the Mozilla 0.9.8 Milestone.  The builds and release notes are
> availbable at http://www.mozilla.org/releases/.  New to this milestone
> are fixes for about 1,500 bugs including:
> 
> * Hebrew is now supported on Solaris. Hebrew and Arabic now supported
>on Mac OS systems that have the proper language pack installed.
>Pasting is busted (Bug 119877) and there are still some open issues
>related to keyboard input and UI fonts. (Bugs 119860, 119882,
>120048, 120334, 121126)
> * Thanks to the new nsITheme API, the classic theme now has native
>looking widgets on Mac OS X and Windows XP.
> * There are several address book improvements.
>* You can now print individual cards (this has been broken for
>  several milestones), print cards from any address book, or print
>  the contents of an entire address book.
>* Much improved performance. (For details see the test results
>  http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/performance/abookperf.html)
>* You can now export to txt, tab and csv and LDIF.
>* The address book now has quick search.
>* Cards with addresses in the USA have a new Get Map button in the
>  card preview pane which creates a map for that address at
>  mapquest.com
> * Mozilla supports MNG and JNG.
> * Dynamic theme switching works again. You can (usually) switch themes
>without restarting the browser although there are still some bugs.
> * Mozilla no longer reads /favicon.ico images by default although
>Mozilla still reads page icons defined with the  tag. Set the
>following pref to turn the feature back on.
>user_pref("browser.chrome.favicons",true);
> * Files automatically downloaded by clicking on a link are now renamed
>to the correct name when the download finishes.
> * DOM Inspector is now included on Mac OS builds.
> * On Mac OS, downloaded files that are passed off to a helper
>application are no longer deleted when Mozilla exits.
> * Composer is now able to generate CSS inline styles instead of
>deprecated HTML elements and/or attributes.
> 
> See the Release Notes for more info.
> 
> --Asa
> 
> 
> 

Re: IMG ALT as tooltip?

[Christian Biesinger]

Pigeon wrote:
> I'm wondering if mozilla has the feature to display the ALT 
> attribute of the  tag as tooltip on mouseover?

No and it will never have. ALT is supposed to be displayed if the
image could not be loaded, while TITLE is intended to be shown as tooltip.

-- 
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  -- Benjamin Franklin

netscape 6.2.1 & linux

[Jens Georg]

hi,

i have a nasty bug here with my linuxbox (latest kde 2) running 
netscape 6.2.1: except for the root account, all windows have missing 
menuentries i.e. the "file" menu is missing completely.
i think there is some trouble with the user rights, but i cannot find 
which file i have to alter in order to fix this.

regards,
jens

Re: Some problems please help

[grayrest]

Matthias Herrmann wrote:
> Hello Newsgroup
> I've got this problem about last week but my friends don't so I think it 
> isn't a bug...
> There is no possilbility for me to go a page Back in the Browser!
> No Back button no right-click, Back, not even Javascript:history(-1) 
> works. I don't know what do do I've just installed 0.9.8 but it still 
> won't work...

This sounds like a corrupted history file. Delete your history file 
(history.mab in your mozilla user directory) and try again. The rest I 
have no idea about.

grayrest

Re: Some problems please help

[dman84]

Matthias Herrmann wrote:
> Hello Newsgroup
> I've got this problem about last week but my friends don't so I think it 
> isn't a bug...
> There is no possilbility for me to go a page Back in the Browser!
> No Back button no right-click, Back, not even Javascript:history(-1) 
> works. I don't know what do do I've just installed 0.9.8 but it still 
> won't work...
> 
> Some smaller probs I've got for a while but which weren't very bad...
> I marked 2 Mail accounts to chekc for new messages at startup but only 
> one of them checks..
> 
> Another question is how can I sort my Newsgroups?
> The're very chaotic
> Hope you can help me
> Hermi
> 

dont install over top of new builds, and use a new profile, and if your 
on windows, try deleting registry keys for Mozilla and Mozilla.org 
folders before reinstalling a new build.  That should fix your problems.

-dman84

Re: IMG ALT as tooltip?

[dman84]

Chris Gushue wrote:
> Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
>>  I'm wondering if mozilla has the feature to display the ALT 
>>  attribute of the  tag as tooltip on mouseover?
>>
>>  AFAIK netscape 4 is doing that, and probably IE too.
>>
> 
> The proper way to do that would be to use the TITLE="" attribute of the
> IMG tag. Even IE will show that as the tooltip if it's there. Mozilla
> does the Right Thing in not displaying the ALT attribute as a tooltip.
> 
> If there is an option to make Mozilla display ALT="" as a tooltip, I
> don't know about it...
> 
> I thought it was a bug until I did some searching on it.
> 
> 

I suggested that a while back, probably in the same bug report.

Re: Odd page rendering

[Jonas Jørgensen]

barney wrote:
> http://www.everywine.co.uk/preston17/brownbros/BBgift.html
> 
> When this page is first loaded, it's usually layed out all wrong.  Hit
> Reload, and the layout fixes itself for the most part, but the
> stylesheet isn't applied.

I see a lot of questions marks instead of letters. Reload fixes it. No 
problems with the style sheet for me.

-- 
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Re: M 0.9.8: Mail and News still not working via socks?

[dman84]

Alex Baumeister wrote:
> I just installed 0.9.8 (Win).
> Mail/News still ignores my proxy settings.
> I entered my socks server hostname and tried socks 4 as well as socks 5.
> Mozilla always tries to go the direkt way via port 110 (pop3) /119
> (nntp).
> 
> I hardly can believe this. Since 0.9.3 I am waiting for socks to work.
> So, who ever sitting behind a firewall can use mozilla for mail or news?
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 

I think there is hidden preference for this.. see pratik.

http://www.geocities.com/pratiksolanki/

Re: Google search from URL line gone?

[grayrest]

Bill Sheppard wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Just installed Moz 0.98.  It looks like the Google search option while 
> entering text in the URL box is gone.  Is this by design?
> 
> Bill
> 

No, I'm using 0.9.8+ (nighlies since the branch and the google search 
has always been there, as well as on branch builds and pre-branch). You 
may want to check the preferences to make sure that google is your 
selected search engine (edit>preferences>navigator>Internet Search), but 
I find it more convenient to set up a keyword shortcut, as seen at 
. I set gg for a 
google search, gi for a google image search, ggr for a google group 
search, it's much easier.

grayrest

Re: Moz 0.9.8 completely fails for me

[Jeroen Roeterd]

Marc Schuette wrote:
> i always uninstall old version first and then install new version. have not
> had a problem with any of the main point releases. uninstall first then
> install no matter jeroen says.




>>I just installed the talkback installer over a .97 and it is working
>>perfectly. Windows 2000.
>>
>>Greetings,
>>Jeroen Roeterd
>>

I just wanted to point out that installing over an old install is not 
always generating a problem. I was just informing everybody that, 
according to my experience, it is not a must to uninstall 0.97 first. 
You can do it, sure why not.

:-)

Greetings,
Jeroen Roeterd

Re: Default paper size

[Pratik]

On 02/05/2002 02:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> is there a way to set the default paper size to a4? Mozilla doesn't 
> remember a thing about the paper size.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> Christoph
> 
> 

Thats annonying bug 118563

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118563

Pratik.

Re: IMG ALT as tooltip?

[Chris Gushue]

Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>   I'm wondering if mozilla has the feature to display the ALT 
>   attribute of the  tag as tooltip on mouseover?
> 
>   AFAIK netscape 4 is doing that, and probably IE too.

The proper way to do that would be to use the TITLE="" attribute of the
IMG tag. Even IE will show that as the tooltip if it's there. Mozilla
does the Right Thing in not displaying the ALT attribute as a tooltip.

If there is an option to make Mozilla display ALT="" as a tooltip, I
don't know about it...

I thought it was a bug until I did some searching on it.

-- 
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bplog news system - http://bplog.blackplasma.net

Re: IMG ALT as tooltip?

[Pratik]

On 02/05/2002 04:41 PM, Pigeon wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I'm wondering if mozilla has the feature to display the ALT attribute of 
> the  tag as tooltip on mouseover?
> 
>   AFAIK netscape 4 is doing that, and probably IE too.
> 
>   Thanks...
> 
> 
> Pigeon.


Sigh... and the question gets asked again... See this thread

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=slrna60433.orm.choess%40force.stwing.upenn.edu&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dmsgid%253Aslrna60433.orm.choess%2540force.stwing.upenn.edu%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch

Pratik.

Re: IMG ALT as tooltip?

[Patrick Gallagher]

Pigeon wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm wondering if mozilla has the feature to display the ALT 
> attribute of the  tag as tooltip on mouseover?
>
> AFAIK netscape 4 is doing that, and probably IE too.
>
> Thanks...
>
>
> Pigeon.
>
use the TITLE attribute of the  tag - the ALT is only for alternate 
text in the event an image doesn't load properly, or someone is using a 
text only browser. Previous browsers allowed for this, but it was an 
incorrect usage.

Patrick

Some problems please help

[Matthias Herrmann]

Hello Newsgroup
I've got this problem about last week but my friends don't so I think it 
isn't a bug...
There is no possilbility for me to go a page Back in the Browser!
No Back button no right-click, Back, not even Javascript:history(-1) 
works. I don't know what do do I've just installed 0.9.8 but it still 
won't work...

Some smaller probs I've got for a while but which weren't very bad...
I marked 2 Mail accounts to chekc for new messages at startup but only 
one of them checks..

Another question is how can I sort my Newsgroups?
The're very chaotic
Hope you can help me
Hermi

IMG ALT as tooltip?

[Pigeon]

Hi all,

I'm wondering if mozilla has the feature to display the ALT attribute of 
the  tag as tooltip on mouseover?

AFAIK netscape 4 is doing that, and probably IE too.

Thanks...


Pigeon.

Odd page rendering

[barney]

When this page is first loaded, it's usually layed out all wrong.  Hit
Reload, and the layout fixes itself for the most part, but the
stylesheet isn't applied.  I didn't see anything in the source code that
might cause this odd rendering, then I looked at the Page Info and
Character Encoding UTF-16LE caught my eye.  There isn't any charset
coded in the page itself, so I guess this is coming from the server.

Is UTF-16LE for real, and is it the likely reason the page renders badly
and the stylesheet is ignored?  BTW, all of the links on this page lead
to generated pages, iso-8859-1, that render perfectly fine, styles and
all.  This static page seems to be the odd man out.

Re: Mozilla becomes viable in 2007 (if the world stands still) (was: Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!)

[DeMoN LaG]

JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 
05 Feb 2002:

> 0.73%.  Suck it down LaGgy.
> 

http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat_trends.htm

"
* Mozilla and Netscape 6.x: ~0.85% of page accesses. This has grown 
significantly since the release of Netscape 6.1.
"

Since it already beat's Opera's stats on the same 3 sources, I'd say 
it's winning.  One could argue that Opera can spoof as IE, but so can 
Mozilla, so that's a moot point.  

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M 0.9.8: Mail and News still not working via socks?

[Alex Baumeister]

I just installed 0.9.8 (Win).
Mail/News still ignores my proxy settings.
I entered my socks server hostname and tried socks 4 as well as socks 5.
Mozilla always tries to go the direkt way via port 110 (pop3) /119
(nntp).

I hardly can believe this. Since 0.9.3 I am waiting for socks to work.
So, who ever sitting behind a firewall can use mozilla for mail or news?

Alex

Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Sören Kuklau]

Andrea Monni wrote:
> Sören Kuklau wrote:
>> Ihighly doubt that it works on Opera. I highly doubt that it would 
>> ever work on Opera. Those great guys from Norway working on Opera 
>> still didn't get around to implement full DOM support.

> Reading this thread a weird idea came to my mind: what if the Opera guys 
> dropped their rendering engine and swiched to Gecko and focused on the 
> user experience?

Wouldn't be bad. They do know how to make a nice browser from the point 
of user experience. Would support them.

-- 
Regards,
Sören Kuklau ('Chucker')
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mozilla becomes viable in 2007 (if the world stands still) (was: Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!)

[JTK]

DeMoN LaG wrote:
> JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05 Feb 2002:
> 
> 
>>Looks like the most reliable number there is 0.85% today.  A far cry
>>from LaGgy's mystical 3%, no?
>>
> 
> 3 sites targetted: .85, 1.2, 8.1.

Three sites.  My numbers cover thousands.  I win.  Your lies lose.

>  Averaged together, 3.83%.  Far cry 
> off from your mystical .75 also.  You realize a really good reason that 
> Mozilla has no thecounter.com statistics is because of how rare they 
> are?

Rare?  Do they cover more than three sites?

>  And even still, four of my friends use Mozilla's sweet sweet image 
> blocking to block out counters.

Why aren't they using Proxomitron for that?

 >  Couple that with something like
> Proxomitron, and to any counter Mozilla is non existant

And I use proxomitron, so my IE is non-existant to any counter.  And 
since so many more people are using IE, so many more are using 
Proxomitron.  So it balances out, doesn't it LaGgy?  Or don't you 
understand basic statistics?  Or don't you want to?

0.73%.  Suck it down LaGgy.

Re: In Agent just use kill filter Author: JTK

[user]

El Torito wrote:
> works great!

Be sure to put in "Subject: Truth" in there as well.

Google search from URL line gone?

[Bill Sheppard]

Hello,

Just installed Moz 0.98.  It looks like the Google search option while 
entering text in the URL box is gone.  Is this by design?

Bill
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Re: Default paper size

[Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.]

Try quiting Moz/N6/ Communicator/whatever then going to printer setup
from Control Panels (I believe I'm right on this been a while since I
looked at PC side of things.) go to printer Setup and try setting to A4 there.

That should make it systemwide.  Then go back to
Moz/N6/Communicator/Whatever and see what is set.

Report back with results.

Parish wrote:
> 
> Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
>  > I don't know about PC/UNIX side of things but, Page size (Print) Mac is
>  > the responsibility of the print Driver/Chooser file for the printer.
>  > Communicator/Moz/Netscape 6 add specific items; but page size is not the
>  > browser's part.  The browser typically  sets: Header and footer items
>  > whether they print left, right, Center. Whether backgrounds are printed.
>  > And whether "fit to page", is turned on or off. Nothing else.
>  >
>  > Page size is detremined between the Printer, Print driver and the
> Computer.
>  >
> 
> Hmmm, Moz appears to be "interfering" with that on Windows (W2K at least).
> 
> I just printed out this message, File->Print, then clicked the
> Properties button next to the printer list drop-down, then, on the next
> dialogue (the layout may vary here depending on your printer - mine's an
> HP 610C), clicked Advanced on the Layout tab and the paper size was
> Letter. I changed it to A4, printed the message, then did File->Print
> again, checked the properties and the paper size had reverted to Letter.
> 
> I found a pref, print.use_global_printsettings, which is set to "false".
> I tried changing that to "true" (and restarting Moz) but it made no
> difference.
> 
>  > On modern USB HP Printers when runing the Driver file(s) The installer
>  > ask whether to set A4 or 8-1/2 x11 as default setup. (at least the
>  > installer for the 990cse Does).
>  >
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  >>
>  >> Hello,
>  >>
>  >> is there a way to set the default paper size to a4? Mozilla doesn't
>  >> remember a thing about the paper size.
>  >>
>  >> Thanx
>  >>
>  >> Christoph
>  >
>  >
> 
> --
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> 
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Re: Updating

[Travis Crump]

short answer: no.

Martin Hoeller wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Is ther a way to update mozilla from 0.9.7 to 0.9.8 without downloading 
> the full release?
> I'm using mozilla for Win32.
> 
> thx, Martin
> 

Re: Wish - key bindings for switching tabs

[Christopher Rued]

On 2002.02.05 14:53 Neil Durant wrote:
> It would be great to be able have key bindings for moving to the 
> next/previous Mozilla tab window!

Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgUp

Re: Shared Address Book Prob

[Roland Felnhofer]

Alex Justo wrote:
> I'm trying to get a department to share an address book. I finally
> figured out how to store the address book in a server so that many users
> can access it from a central location. Unfortunately when one user has
> it open, nobody else can open it ! It seems that messenger locks the
> file for excluvive access or something along those lines. Anyone knows
> how to get around this ?? Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Alex
> 
> 

If your want to share an address book I would recommend to setup an LDAP 
server.

You can use any old PC - install linux and OpenLDAP on it - relay not a 
big deal and not expensive.

I'm using an old ASUS T2P4 with a Pentium 166 MHz and 42 MB Ram. It also 
  acts as Domain controller (Samba TNG), mail server, ...

Cheers
Roland

Re: Mozilla becomes viable in 2007 (if the world stands still) (was: Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!)

[DeMoN LaG]

JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05 Feb 2002:

> Looks like the most reliable number there is 0.85% today.  A far cry
> from LaGgy's mystical 3%, no?

3 sites targetted: .85, 1.2, 8.1.  Averaged together, 3.83%.  Far cry 
off from your mystical .75 also.  You realize a really good reason that 
Mozilla has no thecounter.com statistics is because of how rare they 
are?  And even still, four of my friends use Mozilla's sweet sweet image 
blocking to block out counters.  Couple that with something like 
Proxomitron, and to any counter Mozilla is non existant

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Re: Wish - key bindings for switching tabs

[Pratik]

On 02/05/2002 02:53 PM, Neil Durant wrote:
> It would be great to be able have key bindings for moving to the 
> next/previous Mozilla tab window!

Your wish was granted a long time ago. Try Ctrl-PgUp, Ctrl-PgDown

Pratik.

Wish - key bindings for switching tabs

[Neil Durant]

It would be great to be able have key bindings for moving to the 
next/previous Mozilla tab window!

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anti-aliased fonts in mozilla

[Ralinx]

hello
i would _really_ like to get anti-aliased fonts in moz
Now i've heard about ways to enable them in Mozilla but so far i haven't 
been able to get it working.  Could some of u tell me how this can be done?

btw, please don't recommend the  gdkxft patch cuz i already tried that one 
numerous times.

Re: Default paper size

[Parish]

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
 > I don't know about PC/UNIX side of things but, Page size (Print) Mac is
 > the responsibility of the print Driver/Chooser file for the printer.
 > Communicator/Moz/Netscape 6 add specific items; but page size is not the
 > browser's part.  The browser typically  sets: Header and footer items
 > whether they print left, right, Center. Whether backgrounds are printed.
 > And whether "fit to page", is turned on or off. Nothing else.
 >
 > Page size is detremined between the Printer, Print driver and the 
Computer.
 >

Hmmm, Moz appears to be "interfering" with that on Windows (W2K at least).

I just printed out this message, File->Print, then clicked the
Properties button next to the printer list drop-down, then, on the next
dialogue (the layout may vary here depending on your printer - mine's an
HP 610C), clicked Advanced on the Layout tab and the paper size was
Letter. I changed it to A4, printed the message, then did File->Print
again, checked the properties and the paper size had reverted to Letter.

I found a pref, print.use_global_printsettings, which is set to "false". 
I tried changing that to "true" (and restarting Moz) but it made no 
difference.

 > On modern USB HP Printers when runing the Driver file(s) The installer
 > ask whether to set A4 or 8-1/2 x11 as default setup. (at least the
 > installer for the 990cse Does).
 >
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 >>
 >> Hello,
 >>
 >> is there a way to set the default paper size to a4? Mozilla doesn't
 >> remember a thing about the paper size.
 >>
 >> Thanx
 >>
 >> Christoph
 >
 >



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Re: Default paper size

[gavin long]

> I don't know about PC/UNIX side of things but, Page size (Print) Mac is
> the responsibility of the print Driver/Chooser file for the printer. 

Yup.  Just had a quick poke around in win32, and the paper size was 
definitely handled by the windows/print driver side, not by Moz.

-- 
gav

Updating

[Martin Hoeller]

Hi!

Is ther a way to update mozilla from 0.9.7 to 0.9.8 without downloading 
the full release?
I'm using mozilla for Win32.

thx, Martin

Re: Default paper size

[Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.]

I don't know about PC/UNIX side of things but, Page size (Print) Mac is
the responsibility of the print Driver/Chooser file for the printer. 
Communicator/Moz/Netscape 6 add specific items; but page size is not the
browser's part.  The browser typically  sets: Header and footer items
whether they print left, right, Center. Whether backgrounds are printed.
And whether "fit to page", is turned on or off. Nothing else.

Page size is detremined between the Printer, Print driver and the Computer.

On modern USB HP Printers when runing the Driver file(s) The installer
ask whether to set A4 or 8-1/2 x11 as default setup. (at least the
installer for the 990cse Does).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> is there a way to set the default paper size to a4? Mozilla doesn't
> remember a thing about the paper size.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> Christoph

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In Agent just use kill filter Author: JTK

[El Torito]

works great!

Any NS6 duplicate for MSIE5 slide transition filter?

[M.L.]

I'd like to know if Netscape 6 has a slide filter similar to the one in MSIE
5+ which scrolls a new image on a layer from right to left while pushing the
old image (on the same layer) off the viewing container.

Note that this is not an image-swap slideshow, but one that shows part of
both images simultaneously until the old one has rolled off the screen, and
the new one is parked dead-center in the viewing container.

I have a js scroller that can move an image in any direction, but although I
call the scrolling subroutine BEFORE the one that writes to the layer, the
new image gets replaced too soon. It ends up looking like only the new image
has slid from right to left, followed by whitespace.

filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Slide(slideStyle='PUSH', bands=1,
duration=4)

You can see how it works by clicking the "Show Me" button at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/filter/re
ference/filters/revealtrans.asp

Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Re: Weird & Ugly ZOOM

[barney]

Vincent Nicolas wrote:
> Go to this page :
> http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20370&Method=Full
> 
> and increase text zoom... you get a very ugly stuff !
> 
> No problem at all in IE. However, it seems than this poorly developped 
> site is not able to recognize Mozilla as it loads the same CSS than the 
> one for Netscape 4.x. Maybe the problem is here ??
> 
> I've tested it with both 0.9.7 and 0.9.8 with the same results.
> 
> 
> 

It's probably http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95267

my latest solaris builds missing Address Book (bug?)

[Rob Somerville]

i  am missing the address book icon in the bottom left of all windows, and
it is also missing from the "tasks" menu pull-down. Am i now doing sonethig 
wrong or is it a bug ?

Composer icon is also missing


please also respond to email address, hanks

Re: Moz 0.9.8 completely fails for me

[Marc Schuette]

i always uninstall old version first and then install new version. have not
had a problem with any of the main point releases. uninstall first then
install no matter jeroen says.

Jeroen Roeterd wrote:

> basic wrote:
> > firstly, don't install over older builds. Either install it in its own
> > dir or remove the older build and install the newer.
> >
> > basic
> >
> > Chuck Messenger wrote:
> >
> >> I just tried installing 0.9.8 on my Win2k machine -- over 0.9.7.  When
> >> it ran 0.9.8 for the first time, it put up a blank (all gray) window,
> >> covering the entire screen.  I tried starting it a few times, with the
> >> same result.  I tried rebooting and starting -- same result.  I then
> >> tried starting "mozilla -P chuck" to bypass the profile-selection
> >> screen.  This time, it crashed -- invalid memory access.
> >>
> >> I've never had any problems with previous Moz builds.  I tried a
> >> recent nightly -- same problems.  I then re-installed 0.9.7, and
> >> things are back to normal.
> >>
> >> Just a data point from someone out in the field...
> >>
> >>
> >> - Chuck
> >>
> >
>
> I just installed the talkback installer over a .97 and it is working
> perfectly. Windows 2000.
>
> Greetings,
> Jeroen Roeterd

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Re: Mozilla performance:Broadband vs. Dailup

[Will Dormann]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have read/heard amny comments as to Mozilla's performance. Many people 
> claim Mozilla is very slow. I know that DHTML is slow, but other than 
> that I find Mozilla reasonably fast. But then I am connected to the 
> internet by a broadband cable connection.

I installed 0.9.7 on my parents machine and I was amazed at how fast it 
worked with their dialup (33.6) connection!The machine is pretty 
fast itself, though.  Duron 750 with 128MB RAM.

CV : Michelangelo of Search engine Positioning: Roberto Cescon

[Roberto Cescon]

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do I care to defend myself.I am a son of the FIRST NETWORK!,A CYBER OBJECT!
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Re: tooltip for image-alt-value

[Chris Hoess]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That's not very friendly 

Pardon?  It's not very friendly to handicapped users, or those surfing 
with images off on dialup connections, to have alt text that's not 
meaningful when one can't see the picture...which is exactly what 
happens when people write tooltips.

> and not backward compatible.

You say this like it's a bad thing.  Seriously, "backward compatibility" 
on the web usually winds up perpetuating some horrible brokenness that no 
one really likes, but is too widespread to change.  Alt text is one of the 
few things we're drawing the line on.

> At least, Mozilla should provide option extending image alt to title.
> 

No.  We don't need clueless webmasters sticking title text in alt 
attributes forever.

-- 
Chris Hoess

Re: installing milestones

[grayrest]

Bob Davis wrote:
> I have been installing milestones since about 0.9.1.
> They have worked well.
> 1. uninstall mozilla
> 2. copy plugins to temp dir
> 3. remove directory just in case \program files\mozilla.org
> 4. install milestone
> 5. copy plugins back
> 
> I have read that some people recommend removing the profile info also. 
> What are the advantages? Disadvantages?
> If I do it how do I save my mail history?
> 1. copy "Mail" and "ImapMail" dirs to temp
> 2. Setup new profile
> 3. copy back mail dirs.
> 
> Would this work? Is there a better way?
> 
> thanks
> bob
> 

The removing profile info is due to corruption in nightlies. You 
*should* be okay without doing anything, but if you need to delete 
stuff, delete everything but:

1. Your prefs.js
2. Your bookmarks.html
3. Your mail folder
4. Your news folder

You'll lose your history and all cached information doing this, I do it 
every so often anyway when running nightly installs, most developers do 
as well, I haven't had problems with anything thus far that this hasn't 
solved.

grayrest

Re: Moz 0.9.8 completely fails for me

[Jeroen Roeterd]

basic wrote:
> firstly, don't install over older builds. Either install it in its own 
> dir or remove the older build and install the newer.
> 
> basic
> 
> Chuck Messenger wrote:
> 
>> I just tried installing 0.9.8 on my Win2k machine -- over 0.9.7.  When 
>> it ran 0.9.8 for the first time, it put up a blank (all gray) window, 
>> covering the entire screen.  I tried starting it a few times, with the 
>> same result.  I tried rebooting and starting -- same result.  I then 
>> tried starting "mozilla -P chuck" to bypass the profile-selection 
>> screen.  This time, it crashed -- invalid memory access.
>>
>> I've never had any problems with previous Moz builds.  I tried a 
>> recent nightly -- same problems.  I then re-installed 0.9.7, and 
>> things are back to normal.
>>
>> Just a data point from someone out in the field...
>>
>>
>> - Chuck
>>
> 

I just installed the talkback installer over a .97 and it is working 
perfectly. Windows 2000.

Greetings,
Jeroen Roeterd

installing milestones

[Bob Davis]

I have been installing milestones since about 0.9.1.
They have worked well.
1. uninstall mozilla
2. copy plugins to temp dir
3. remove directory just in case \program files\mozilla.org
4. install milestone
5. copy plugins back

I have read that some people recommend removing the profile info also. 
What are the advantages? Disadvantages?
If I do it how do I save my mail history?
1. copy "Mail" and "ImapMail" dirs to temp
2. Setup new profile
3. copy back mail dirs.

Would this work? Is there a better way?

thanks
bob

Netscape keeps asking to create profile

[Stephen Bohler]

Hello,

For no apparent reason, when I tried to launch Netscape 4.7 today it asked
me to create a new profile (even though I have a perfectly good one). I
tried to go throught its instructions to create another one, but it wouldn't
finish...just ended.

I tried again, same results.

I read in a posting that deleting the nsreg.dat file in the WinNT directory
should do it. When I try to do this, it tells me that it is in use by
another process. I can't seem to understand which one could be locking it.
I've rebooted, but it is still locked.

Ideas??

Thanks in advance,
Steve

Re: Contribute language pack for Mozilla?

[Tim Hunt]

Andreas wrote:
> How do I make a language pack for Mozilla?
> I'd like to contribute a norwegian language pack,
> if there is a demand for it.

RTFM

http://www.mozilla.org/docs/refList/i18n/

Tim.

Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Andrea Monni]

rtwin Glück wrote:
 >

> But what I want to point out is that not 
> individual figures matters but rather an impression, an overall feeling 
> for the state of the project. And this is what disquiets me sometimes. 
> It doesn't really matter what options/ parameters you choose for the bug 
> chart. It always shows the same overall picture: bugs increase.


Check put this link: 
http://www.mozilla.org/events/dev-day2001/community-testing/index.html
it's Asa's presentation at the November Mozilla Developer's Day, it 
gives an overall outlook of the Bugzilla state (and of the Mozilla 
community QA).

Andrea
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Contribute language pack for Mozilla?

[Andreas]

How do I make a language pack for Mozilla?
I'd like to contribute a norwegian language pack,
if there is a demand for it.

Andreas.

Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Andrea Monni]

Sören Kuklau wrote:

> 
> Ihighly doubt that it works on Opera. I highly doubt that it would ever 
> work on Opera. Those great guys from Norway working on Opera still 
> didn't get around to implement full DOM support.


Reading this thread a weird idea came to my mind: what if the Opera guys 
dropped their rendering engine and swiched to Gecko and focused on the 
user experience?

Andrea

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Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Andrea Monni]

DeMoN LaG wrote:

> 
> Actually it's a complete lie by JTK.  He quoted a website that showed 
> Mozilla had .75% market share.  Last I checked, that same site shows 
> 3.0% market share. 


What I'd like to see is a recent Google zeitgeist: last one didn't even 
mention Mozilla (and neither NS 6.x) and I think Google is a pretty 
democratic site (in the sense that almost everybody use it nowadays).

I don't anything will change soon, at least until the next, major NS 
release.

Andrea
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Y! IM: andreamonni  show what we truly are, far
ICQ: 7387142more than our abilities."
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Re: tooltip for image-alt-value

[user]

That's not very friendly and not backward compatible.
At least, Mozilla should provide option extending image alt to title.


Alex


Sören Kuklau wrote:
> The W3C forbids the usage of the alt attributes for "tooltips". The alt
> attribute ("alternative") is for browsers that have image display disabled,
> that can't load the image, or that cannot display images.
> 
> Use the title attribute which is for displaying additional explaining text.
> 
> Regards,
> Sören Kuklau
> 
> "ZZT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>in netscape 4.x and IE5.x I see the "alt" value of an image as tooltip.
>>Where is this feature in mozilla 0.9x ? Do I have to activate it?
>>
>>bye
>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: Moral high ground?

[David Simpson]

On Mon, 04 Feb 2002 02:26:45 -0600, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>David Simpson wrote:
>> 
>> On 3 Feb 2002 07:17:25 GMT, DeMoN LaG  wrote:
>> 
>
>[snip]
>
>> 
>> I don't complain about it. I just don't use it.
>
>WH  He *CAN* write more than one sentence at a time!
>
>Christ.

I don't want to confuse you when I write for you.

Re: Excessive bugs mean Mozilla's death!

[Andrea Monni]

Christian Biesinger wrote:

> 
> Sigh. It's always a problem if a product should please everybody, it 
> ends up pleasing nobody...


That's why Mozilla terribly needs third-party "vendor" like Netscape, 
Galeon, K-Meleon and the (not too many, indeed) others: to make 
targetted applications which can please a very well identified group of 
people (customers).

Mozilla (shouldn't it be Seamonkey?) should be seen as a showcase for 
what is developed by mozilla.org and as a tool for users who want to 
explore and to be on top of things.

But I'm not saying nothing new, am I?

Andrea
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Y! IM: andreamonni  show what we truly are, far
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Re: Weird & Ugly ZOOM

[Christian Biesinger]

Vincent Nicolas wrote:
> Go to this page :
> http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20370&Method=Full
> 
> and increase text zoom... you get a very ugly stuff !

Looks fine for me, until at least 150% (on Linux, that is)


-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  -- Benjamin Franklin

Weird & Ugly ZOOM

[Vincent Nicolas]

Go to this page :
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20370&Method=Full

and increase text zoom... you get a very ugly stuff !

No problem at all in IE. However, it seems than this poorly developped 
site is not able to recognize Mozilla as it loads the same CSS than the 
one for Netscape 4.x. Maybe the problem is here ??

I've tested it with both 0.9.7 and 0.9.8 with the same results.


-- 
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http://membres.tripod.fr/vnicolas/

Re: Mozilla performance:Broadband vs. Dailup

[Raj Bhaskar]

> I tried Mozilla on my old computer(166MHz, 32MB ram), and it was 
> unusable to the point where even if there was a 100% performance 

I've been running Moz since about 0.8 on a P166 (albeit with 84MB RAM) 
and although it's quite slow, I find it usable.

> improvement since then I think it would still be unusably slow(though I 
> haven't tried it).  Then I got a new computer(1.2GHz[Athlon], 384MB 
> ram), and I really can't imagine a noticeable performance improvement to 
> be possible for my browsing style...

Heh heh, yes.  On my 1GHz+ (I can't actually remember the speed) PC at 
work, Moz is amazingly fast.

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Re: where is mozilla 0.9.8 for AIX 4.3.3 ?

[Tim Hunt]

George Lefter wrote:
> im running mozilla 0.9.7 on aix 4.3.3
> i looked for nightly builds for aix, but i couldnt find any.
> i thought mozilla provides bineries on aix just for releases, but now
> 0.9.8 is out and there's no binary for aix.
> is there any chance that it will appear later on?

Of course it will. The milestone has only been out for a day! You just 
need to be a bit patient.

Different builds for different platforms are contributed by different 
people. Now that mozilla.org has shipped the milestone on win/mac/linux 
other people will be grabbing the source and running the build on other 
platforms. Thier builds will be uploaded to the mozilla.org FTP servers 
in due course.

Tim.

where is mozilla 0.9.8 for AIX 4.3.3 ?

[George Lefter]

hello.

im running mozilla 0.9.7 on aix 4.3.3
i looked for nightly builds for aix, but i couldnt find any.
i thought mozilla provides bineries on aix just for releases, but now
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