Re: gpg/pgp 6.5.3
Tuesday den 13.06.2000 um 6:07 CEST +0200, schrieb Dale Morris:
Figured I'd better seek help before I start fixing things.. I am using gpg
for encryption in mutt. It seems to work fine. Tonight I installed pgp
6.5.3 on the wife's machine and sent myself an email, encrypted, of
course. Mutt didn't decrypt it. I sent her an encrypted/signed mail and
her box couldn't decrypt it using outlook express. Now I'm wondering if
the 2 platforms are compatible or do I have to use commandline pgp 6.5.3
in order to make it work properly? I have a friend in Canada I would like
The problem ist the mime handling of outlook. Outlook hasn't
really mime handling, it just had an idea what mime is...
You can setup your box reading "outlook" encrypted/signed mails.
If you use procmail as your mda, then procmail ist able to
correct the wrong mimehandling of outlook an others.
:0
* !^Content-Type: message/
* !^Content-Type: multipart/
* !^Content-Type: application/pgp
{
:0 fBw
* ^-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
* ^-END PGP MESSAGE-
| formail \
-i "Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=encrypt"
:0 fBw
* ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
* ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
* ^-END PGP SIGNATURE-
| formail \
-i "Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign"
}
In the other direction exist a macro, which breaks the correct
mime handling of mutt. I have not test this macro.
You have to encrypt your mail as pgp/gpg output as the bodytext
without mimeheaders. Then Outlook an others are able the decrypt
it.
--
Frank Matthieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Support / Netzwerkadministration
Am Wellbach 4
D 33605 Bielefeld +49 521 97 22 6-99
PGP signature
Re: help!
Hi Gustavo! I have just began with mutt, and i am very exciting about it! Now, i have just a single problem: How to auto move messages from my maildir to a specific file (~/.Mail/). Let me explain: i subcribe to some mailing list, so i would like to all messages that has the header Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be auto moved to the file ~/.Mail/openbsd. If you want define the folder tthey have to go to when saveing them, define a save-hook (or a save-fcc-hook): fcc-save-hook ^[EMAIL PROTECTED]$ +openbsd But if you want to filter your mail after receiving (and before reading), you should define a folder-hook (assuming you are in Inbox): folder-hook =Inbox$ 'push T~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n' This tags your mail and you can store it somewhere. The latter task can be better done with fetchmail/procmail! Ciao for now, Dirk -- Dirk Ruediger, Rostock, Germany One man tells a falsehood, a hundred repeat it as true.
Re: mutt glibc2.1
Hi Alexander! I've just upgraded my Debian 2.1 to glibc2.1 from glibc2.0 and after this mutt worked pretty good, but when I rebuilt in to be linked with more modern libc version mutt began to segfault. All I could get from gdb was: Why did you rebuilt it? Update Debian to 2.2 and you get mutt 1.2i. I also recompiled mutt w/ Debian 2.2 (to get some additional features) and it worked well. Ciao for now, Dirk -- Dirk Ruediger, Rostock, Germany One man tells a falsehood, a hundred repeat it as true.
Quoting (was: news with mutt)
On 2000-06-11 16:45:56 +0930, Brian Salter-Duke wrote: What does this macro and script achieve that slrn can not do already. I can already reply and forward from inside slrn. Am I missing something important? Yes. A short course on writing mail (http://members.aol.com/intwg/guide.htm), especially the part about quoting. HTH. HAND. Martin -- Martin Schröder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10
Signatures (was: Mail delivery and GZIP patch)
On 2000-06-10 12:02:09 +0200, Nils Vogels wrote: -- ^ There's a space missing; the sig separator is hyphenhyphenspace Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10
Re: Mail delivery and GZIP patch
Hi Nils! The problem isnt mutt, since mutt handles the .gz folders perfectly .. the problem is my mail delivery .. how do I tell procmail to add the mail in .gz format to the other mails ? use in ~/.procmailrc as a recipe: |gzip -c mailboxfolder.gz This appends the mail to a gzipped mailbox. But backup your mailbox before testing! And remeber: It's not appreciated! Ciao for now, Dirk -- Dirk Ruediger, Rostock, Germany One man tells a falsehood, a hundred repeat it as true.
Re: Seeking help
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 08:26:35AM +0200, Kasopa Wilbroad Chisanga wrote: I am running hp-ux 10.20 on my hp box and I would like to install mutt, but the following are the error messages I have got. How can I go round it as I desperately want to install this software. Thanking you in advance Regards, Wilbroad. keymap.c:69: `KEY_END' undeclared here (not in a function) This is what stopped the build - HP has a different flavor of cursess which should define this (curs_colr), but mutt's configure script doesn't recognize that (doesn't generate -I and -L options for the makefile to make it use the newer library). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dickey.his.com ftp://dickey.his.com
Re: Seeking help
keymap.c:69: `KEY_END' undeclared here (not in a function) This is what stopped the build - HP has a different flavor of cursess which should define this (curs_colr), but mutt's configure script doesn't recognize that (doesn't generate -I and -L options for the makefile to make it use the newer library). The only HP-UX 10.20 box I have access to has no man pages, and a compiler that truely sucks (no -g, no ansi). I cannot install anything on this machine. Which means that someone else will have to look into this ...
Re: Seeking help
Hello Thomas, Does your explanation mean that I can not install it on the hp-ux? Wilbroad. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Dickey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kasopa Wilbroad Chisanga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Seeking help On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 08:26:35AM +0200, Kasopa Wilbroad Chisanga wrote: I am running hp-ux 10.20 on my hp box and I would like to install mutt, but the following are the error messages I have got. How can I go round it as I desperately want to install this software. Thanking you in advance Regards, Wilbroad. keymap.c:69: `KEY_END' undeclared here (not in a function) This is what stopped the build - HP has a different flavor of cursess which should define this (curs_colr), but mutt's configure script doesn't recognize that (doesn't generate -I and -L options for the makefile to make it use the newer library). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dickey.his.com ftp://dickey.his.com
Re: Seeking help
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 10:38:32AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: keymap.c:69: `KEY_END' undeclared here (not in a function) This is what stopped the build - HP has a different flavor of cursess which should define this (curs_colr), but mutt's configure script doesn't recognize that (doesn't generate -I and -L options for the makefile to make it use the newer library). The only HP-UX 10.20 box I have access to has no man pages, and a compiler that truely sucks (no -g, no ansi). I cannot install anything on this machine. I have a few scraps, from tin and lynx (my configure script usually works for this case, though I get occasional reports of problems). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dickey.his.com ftp://dickey.his.com
Re: .mailcap file
Dale Morris muttered: I've never been able to get slrn to open or autoview an image file after it's downloaded. # .mailcap image/gif; ee %s image/jpg; ee %s Seems correct. Maybe you should put these lines into /etc/mailcap. AFAIK ~/.mailcap will not be considered by every program. I have 'image/*; ee %s; copiousoutput' in my /etc/mailcap and it works fine. I don't know about autoviewing with slrn what do the docs say about it? With mutt you would need the 'copiousoutput' option to do autoviewing maybe with slrn it's the same? HTH, Michael -- The more data I punch in this card, the lighter it becomes, and the lower the mailing cost. -- S. Kelly-Bootle, "The Devil's DP Dictionary" PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
Re: news with mutt
On 2000-06-11 16:45:56 +0930, Brian Salter-Duke wrote: What does this macro and script achieve that slrn can not do already. I can already reply and forward from inside slrn. Am I missing something important? My reason for writing (and using) it is that I prefer to have the same set of aliases (and other settings) pretty much everywhere where I send mail. This does, for instance, include things like FCCs, encryption/signature settings, and more. I just don't like the idea to have to use (and configure) different programs for the same purpose. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: Seeking help
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 10:38:32AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: - - keymap.c:69: `KEY_END' undeclared here (not in a function) - - This is what stopped the build - HP has a different flavor of cursess - which should define this (curs_colr), but mutt's configure script - doesn't recognize that (doesn't generate -I and -L options for the - makefile to make it use the newer library). - - The only HP-UX 10.20 box I have access to has no man pages, and - a compiler that truely sucks (no -g, no ansi). I cannot install - anything on this machine. - - Which means that someone else will have to look into this ... You can pay HP for an ANSI HP-UX 10.20 compiler, possibly upgrade to a later version of HP-UX which may have an ANSI compiler, or you can get gcc for HP-UX at the usual location and usual price. It should compile painlessly even on 10.20's KR compiler. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
hiding IMAP FOLDER INTERNAL DATA messages
I read mail with mutt when I'm local, and IMAP when I'm away. The IMAP stuff creates messages with the subject "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA". When reading with mutt, I'd like these to be hidden. Is there a facility for not displaying messages meeting some pattern? Tim
Re: hiding IMAP FO LDER IN TERNAL D ATA messages
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Tim Danner wrote: I read mail with mutt when I'm local, and IMAP when I'm away. The IMAP stuff creates messages with the subject "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA". When reading with mutt, I'd like these to be hidden. Is there a facility for not displaying messages meeting some pattern? Simple - add this to your muttrc folder-hook . "push \"l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\"" by the way, the reason I'm using PINE (spit) to write this was that this folder hook hid _your_ mail :) That's the reason I've munged your subject a bit. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying saucers on occasion Show themselves to human eyes. Aliens fume, put off invasion While they brand these tales as lies.
Re: emacs mail mode?
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 09:25:28AM -0400, mofo wrote:
I'd like to use emacs (or possibly jed) as my editor for mutt but haven't
been able to figure out how to automatically create a word wrap at 72 cols.
I know how to do it in vim but am not yet comfortable enough with it to use
it exclusively.
thanks.
I have this in my .emacs:
;; mutt-* files
(setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\\mutt-" . auto-fill-mode) auto-mode-alist))
Works for me.
rebecca
Re: Seeking help
- The only HP-UX 10.20 box I have access to has no man pages, and - a compiler that truely sucks (no -g, no ansi). I cannot install - anything on this machine. - - Which means that someone else will have to look into this ... You can pay HP for an ANSI HP-UX 10.20 compiler, possibly upgrade to a later version of HP-UX which may have an ANSI compiler, or you can get gcc for HP-UX at the usual location and usual price. *I* can't. I have none of these options, the machine is not under my authoritah. It should compile painlessly even on 10.20's KR compiler.
Re: hiding IMAP FO LDER IN TERNAL D ATA messages
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 07:29:31PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Tim Danner wrote: I read mail with mutt when I'm local, and IMAP when I'm away. The IMAP stuff creates messages with the subject "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA". When reading with mutt, I'd like these to be hidden. Is there a facility for not displaying messages meeting some pattern? Simple - add this to your muttrc folder-hook . "push \"l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\"" by the way, the reason I'm using PINE (spit) to write this was that this folder hook hid _your_ mail :) That's the reason I've munged your subject a bit. Couldn't you use regexps to match a little bit more exactly? Like this: folder-hook . "push \"l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA$')\n*\"" That is the end of the subject line, right? BTW, thanks for this-- I plan to add it to my muttrc. rebecca
Re: Seeking help
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Lars Hecking wrote: - The only HP-UX 10.20 box I have access to has no man pages, and - a compiler that truely sucks (no -g, no ansi). I cannot install - anything on this machine. - - Which means that someone else will have to look into this ... You can pay HP for an ANSI HP-UX 10.20 compiler, possibly upgrade to a later version of HP-UX which may have an ANSI compiler, or you can get gcc for HP-UX at the usual location and usual price. *I* can't. I have none of these options, the machine is not under my authoritah. as I pointed out, there are configure macros which I've written for tin and lynx which check for the HP curses library. It wouldn't be that hard to incorporate those into mutt's configure script... (I don't have an HPUX 10.x either) -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dickey.his.com ftp://dickey.his.com
Re: Seeking help
as I pointed out, there are configure macros which I've written for tin and lynx which check for the HP curses library. It wouldn't be that hard to incorporate those into mutt's configure script... The cur_colr stuff ... ok, I'll see what I can do :)
Re: Seeking help
I compiled earlier versions of mutt (= 1.0) on HP-UX 10.20 by hacking the Makefile to get it to use the HP-UX color curses. I also had to use GNU make. The same hack would not work for mutt 1.2, so I installed slang. That worked fine. I don't need GNU make anymore, either, since that problem in mutt's Makefiles was fixed. I have always used gcc to compile it. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: Seeking help
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 10:38:32AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: keymap.c:69: `KEY_END' undeclared here (not in a function) This is what stopped the build - HP has a different flavor of cursess which should define this (curs_colr), but mutt's configure script doesn't recognize that (doesn't generate -I and -L options for the makefile to make it use the newer library). The only HP-UX 10.20 box I have access to has no man pages, and a compiler that truely sucks (no -g, no ansi). I cannot install anything on this machine. Which means that someone else will have to look into this ... My sympathy... Back when I last worked on an HP box, life was more dismal. (HP-UX v.OLD compiler didn't even want to compile g++) I heard rumors the compiler was intended for recompiling the kernel only. If you are allowed (this is important!) to install a version of gcc into your own space (and your space is big enough), then you can use gcc. simplified steps: 1. install gcc to $HOME/tmp/gcc 2. install mutt (with CC=$HOME/tmp/gcc) 3. delete $HOME/tmp/gcc [*] 4. use mutt [*] optionally, install gcc and keep it, and stay saner. That said, if you spend much time working on your HP-UX box, I suggest you ask the admins for a better compiler. Ben -- Benjamin Korvemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patch for better curses detection [was: Re: Seeking help]
This is what stopped the build - HP has a different flavor of curses
which should define this (curs_colr), but mutt's configure script
doesn't recognize that (doesn't generate -I and -L options for the
makefile to make it use the newer library).
Try this patch. It's relative to mutt-cvs, but should work with 1.3.x,
maybe even 1.2.x. Minor ugliness (?): I haven't changed the macro, so
it uses LIBS instead of MUTTLIBS.
Autogenerated files are not included, so you need the environment
described in doc/devel-notes.txt, especially autoconf and automake.
I hope I managed not to break anything :-)
If this works, thank T.E.D :-))
diff -urN mutt-cvs/ChangeLog mutt-1.3.3/ChangeLog
--- mutt-cvs/ChangeLog Sat Jun 10 06:30:29 2000
+++ mutt-1.3.3/ChangeLogTue Jun 13 20:17:01 2000
@@ -1,3 +1,11 @@
+2000-06-13 Lars Hecking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+
+ * configure.in: Use CF_CURSES_LIBS macro for better detection
+ of platform-specific curses libraries.
+
+ * m4/curslib.m4: New file, contains Tom Dickey's CF_CURSES_LIBS
+ macro from lynx.
+
Fri Jun 9 11:34:26 2000 Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* po/ru.po, po/sk.po, po/sv.po, po/uk.po, po/zh_TW.Big5.po,
diff -urN mutt-cvs/configure.in mutt-1.3.3/configure.in
--- mutt-cvs/configure.in Tue Jun 13 06:30:17 2000
+++ mutt-1.3.3/configure.in Tue Jun 13 20:08:45 2000
@@ -183,7 +183,7 @@
fi
AC_CHECK_HEADERS(ncurses.h)],
- [MUTTLIBS="$MUTTLIBS -lcurses"])
+ [CF_CURSES_LIBS])
old_LIBS="$LIBS"
LIBS="$LIBS $MUTTLIBS"
diff -urN mutt-cvs/m4/curslib.m4 mutt-1.3.3/m4/curslib.m4
--- mutt-cvs/m4/curslib.m4 Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970
+++ mutt-1.3.3/m4/curslib.m4Tue Jun 13 16:43:47 2000
@@ -0,0 +1,83 @@
+dnl ---
+dnl Look for the curses libraries. Older curses implementations may require
+dnl termcap/termlib to be linked as well.
+AC_DEFUN([CF_CURSES_LIBS],[
+AC_CHECK_FUNC(initscr,,[
+case $host_os in #(vi
+freebsd*) #(vi
+ AC_CHECK_LIB(mytinfo,tgoto,[LIBS="-lmytinfo $LIBS"])
+ ;;
+hpux10.*|hpux11.*)
+ AC_CHECK_LIB(cur_colr,initscr,[
+ LIBS="-lcur_colr $LIBS"
+ CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/curses_colr $CFLAGS"
+ ac_cv_func_initscr=yes
+ ],[
+ AC_CHECK_LIB(Hcurses,initscr,[
+ # HP's header uses __HP_CURSES, but user claims _HP_CURSES.
+ LIBS="-lHcurses $LIBS"
+ CFLAGS="-D__HP_CURSES -D_HP_CURSES $CFLAGS"
+ ac_cv_func_initscr=yes
+ ])])
+ ;;
+linux*) # Suse Linux does not follow /usr/lib convention
+ LIBS="$LIBS -L/lib"
+ ;;
+esac
+
+if test ".$With5lib" != ".no" ; then
+if test -d /usr/5lib ; then
+ # SunOS 3.x or 4.x
+ CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS -I/usr/5include"
+ LIBS="$LIBS -L/usr/5lib"
+fi
+fi
+
+if test ".$ac_cv_func_initscr" != .yes ; then
+ cf_save_LIBS="$LIBS"
+ cf_term_lib=""
+ cf_curs_lib=""
+
+ # Check for library containing tgoto. Do this before curses library
+ # because it may be needed to link the test-case for initscr.
+ AC_CHECK_FUNC(tgoto,[cf_term_lib=predefined],[
+ for cf_term_lib in termcap termlib unknown
+ do
+ AC_CHECK_LIB($cf_term_lib,tgoto,[break])
+ done
+ ])
+
+ # Check for library containing initscr
+ test "$cf_term_lib" != predefined test "$cf_term_lib" != unknown
+LIBS="-l$cf_term_lib $cf_save_LIBS"
+ for cf_curs_lib in cursesX curses ncurses xcurses jcurses unknown
+ do
+ AC_CHECK_LIB($cf_curs_lib,initscr,[break])
+ done
+ test $cf_curs_lib = unknown AC_ERROR(no curses library found)
+
+ LIBS="-l$cf_curs_lib $cf_save_LIBS"
+ if test "$cf_term_lib" = unknown ; then
+ AC_MSG_CHECKING(if we can link with $cf_curs_lib library)
+ AC_TRY_LINK([#include ${cf_cv_ncurses_header-curses.h}],
+ [initscr()],
+ [cf_result=yes],
+ [cf_result=no])
+ AC_MSG_RESULT($cf_result)
+ test $cf_result = no AC_ERROR(Cannot link curses library)
+ elif test "$cf_term_lib" != predefined ; then
+ AC_MSG_CHECKING(if we need both $cf_curs_lib and $cf_term_lib
+libraries)
+ AC_TRY_LINK([#include ${cf_cv_ncurses_header-curses.h}],
+ [initscr(); tgoto((char *)0, 0, 0);],
+ [cf_result=no],
+ [
+ LIBS="-l$cf_curs_lib -l$cf_term_lib $cf_save_LIBS"
+ AC_TRY_LINK([#include ${cf_cv_ncurses_header-curses.h}],
+ [initscr()],
+ [cf_result=yes],
+ [cf_result=error])
+
GPG signed messages = SMIME?
Hi folks, Maybe I have a case of the stupids here, but I used the gpgrc file that comes with the source distro and when I sign a mail with my GPG signature the entire message gets converted to SMIME format. This may be OK for some MUAs out there, but when I send mail to where I work from home using mutt and sign them with GPG the recipient is going to see this from Micro$oft Outlook which does horrible things to SMIME. Also because of this it would appear that the PGP client for windows can't figure out how to verify the signature when it is in SMIME format. Maybe my memory is warped, but I seem to remember that PGP normally signs messages keeping the body of the email in text format. Is there a way of doing the same thing under the GPG/Mutt combination? Or am I stuck with SMIME format messages when I sign them? I checked the FAQ and searched the archives already to no avail -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Peter L. Berghold http://www.berghold.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Bigot at Large "Linux renders ships... Windows NT renders ships useless..."
Re: GPG signed messages = SMIME?
On 2000-06-13 15:44:47 -0400, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
Maybe I have a case of the stupids here, but I used the
gpgrc file that comes with the source distro and when I
sign a mail with my GPG signature the entire message
gets converted to SMIME format.
S/MIME is something mutt doesn't understand or generate
currently.
More precisely, it's some set of standards based on pkcs
#7, X.509 certificates, and the framework from RFC 1847
(multipart/{signed,encrypted}, originally specified for
use by MOSS). Don't ask me for details, I'm not really
familiar with S/MIME.
The framework from RFC 1847 is quite general, and can also
be applied to PGP. The resulting format is called
PGP/MIME, and specified in RFC 2015. That's what mutt
uses.
The benefit from this framework is that the message's
content is (1) signed completely, including MIME headers
and the like, and (2) the content is still accessible for
MIME MUAs which don't know anything about PGP, S/MIME or
the like - for that software, multipart/signed just looks
like another unsupported multipart, which consists of two
parts: Nested usable data, and something strange called
signature, which isn't handled.
This may be OK for some MUAs out there, but when I send
mail to where I work from home using mutt and sign them
with GPG the recipient is going to see this from
Micro$oft Outlook which does horrible things to SMIME.
Also because of this it would appear that the PGP
client for windows can't figure out how to verify the
signature when it is in SMIME format.
I'd suggest you complain to Microsoft and Network
Associates. It's their responsibility to get the support
for this right; what mutt does ist the standard (ok,
proposed standard) way of using PGP with e-mail.
Maybe my memory is warped, but I seem to remember that
PGP normally signs messages keeping the body of the
email in text format. Is there a way of doing the same
thing under the GPG/Mutt combination? Or am I stuck
with SMIME format messages when I sign them?
--
http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: GPG signed messages = SMIME?
First, a quick correction: SMIME would be interpreted by most folks as S/MIME, and that's the spec described in RFCs 2311 (message format) and 2312 (certs). There may be some MUAs that implement it; I don't know which. I've never seen it in use, as far as I know. When I last heard it discussed, some years ago, it seemed like it was being promulgated by the camp that wants everything done with centralized certification authorities; I've never been concerned with trying to make certification authorities more lucrative, only with privacy, so I stuck with PGP:-). The MIME format supported by Mutt for crypto is RFC 2015, I think I've sometimes seen people refer to it as PGP/MIME. Mutt implements it; I've read on this list recently that someone was introducing support for it into some GUI MUA as well. Aside from that, it's not supported as far as I know. Now on to the issues you discuss: Outlook is extra special (in the Politically Correct sense of the word, like the Special Olympics); besides going out of its way to make it easy for random strangers to do whatever they want to the victim's (Outlook user's) machine, it also goes out of its way to make it difficult to read PGP/MIME messages; way way harder than a completely non-MIME MUA like e.g. /bin/mail. There are two responses that could be taken to this state of affairs. You could go out of your way to send "traditional PGP" messages. Just turn off PGP signing in mutt, and use your editor to sign the message. In mine, I just filtered the message through "gpg --clearsign" to get messages signed that way. I use the past tense; I've signed off the one mailing list that blocked PGP/MIME messages. As for Windows users, they choose to do Windows to themselves; on the very rare occasions that they complain about my email, I point 'em at RFC 2015, and encourage them to complain to the author of their email software --- or switch to email software that doesn't have the problems they're suffering from. -Bennett PGP signature
Re: news with mutt
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 02:35:57PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2000-06-11 16:45:56 +0930, Brian Salter-Duke wrote: What does this macro and script achieve that slrn can not do already. I can already reply and forward from inside slrn. Am I missing something important? My reason for writing (and using) it is that I prefer to have the same set of aliases (and other settings) pretty much everywhere where I send mail. This does, for instance, include things like FCCs, encryption/signature settings, and more. I just don't like the idea to have to use (and configure) different programs for the same purpose. OK. I understand this. I installed the macro and script. It seems that the default settings for "r" and "F" override the ones set in the macro. If I change the settings in the macro to "x" for reply and "X" for forward, then I can use mutt for reply and forward. I do not understand this, but it now works. Cheers, Brian. -- Associate Professor Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke) [EMAIL PROTECTED] School of Biological, Environmental and Chemical Sciences, SITE, Northern Territory University, Darwin, NT 0909, Australia. Phone 08-89466702. Fax 08-89466847 http://www.smps.ntu.edu.au/school/compchem.html
Re: PGP handling
2000-06-13-17:42:36 Nils Vogels: 1) Attach the signature By this I'm guessing you are referring to Mutt's default PGP/MIME handling, RFC 2015. 2) Put the signature in the body of the mail and seperate signature and body using - stuff and I'm guessing here you mean the classic "clearsigning" that PGP does, where the signature shows up separated by various lines from the body, all within the (MIME) body of the message. By default my mutt handles the first type extremely well, but how can I educate it in such a way it understands the second type of signing too ? Mutt can't, as far as I know, be taught to send the second sort; to do that you need to turn off mutt's signing and use your editor to filter the message through a suitable pgp or gpg invocation; I filter through gpg --clearsign on those rare occasions I want to generate a traditional signature. If however you're mostly concerned with getting mutt to _read_ those messages right, that's easy; see PGP-Notes.txt from the mutt distribution for nice recipes for use with procmail or with maildrop, to add MIME headers so that the messages will be recognized and processed. That same note has a macro that's supposed to do something for composing classic clearsigned PGP email, but it's not perfectly clear to me exactly what it's supposed to do, and it looks like it's written for PGP rather than GPG (which is what I use). I expect if I cared enough about sending old-style PGP email, I'd probably figure it out:-). -Bennett PGP signature
Different signature/tag line each day/email.
Hello, I have noticed that many people have a humorous tag line at the end of their emails. I have also read in the mutt docs that you can pipe the output of a command into your signature. I want to combine these, so that when I compose an email it picks a tag line from a collection of tag lines and sets that as the signature. Are there any tools/ scripts written that do this? Thanks, -- Nigel Tamplin. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Different signature/tag line each day/email.
Nigel Tamplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 14 Jun 2000:
I want to combine these, so that when I compose an email it picks a
tag line from a collection of tag lines and sets that as the
signature.
Are there any tools/ scripts written that do this?
It's a pretty simple thing, attached is the perl script randline.pl that
I wrote for my own use. It prints out a random line from the file given
as argument.
Hope this is of use to you,
Mikko
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#!/usr/bin/perl
if ($ARGV[0]) {
open(FILE, "$ARGV[0]") || die "Cannot open file $ARGV[0] for reading: $!\n";
$lines = 0;
srand( time() + $$ );
#srand( (time() 1) + $$ );
#srand( time() ^ ($$ + ($$ 15)) );
while(FILE) {$lines++;}
seek(FILE, 0, 0);
$linenr = 0;
for($randline = int(rand($lines)) + 1; $linenr $randline; $linenr++) {
$line = FILE;
}
close(FILE);
print $line;
}
else {
print STDERR "No file.\n";
}
Re: hiding IMAP FO LDER IN TERNAL D ATA messages
Suresh -- ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Tim Danner wrote: % % a facility for not displaying messages meeting some pattern? % % Simple - add this to your muttrc % folder-hook . "push \"l!(~s 'FOLDER INTERNAL DATA')\n*\"" % % by the way, the reason I'm using PINE (spit) to write this was that this *gasp*!! % folder hook hid _your_ mail :) That's the reason I've munged your subject % a bit. Boy, you must *really* like that limit to not just l . /~s FOLDER r :source .muttrc *grin* % % -- % Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Flying saucers on occasion % Show themselves to human eyes. % Aliens fume, put off invasion % While they brand these tales as lies. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: GPG signed messages = SMIME?
Peter -- ...and then Peter L. Berghold said... % Hi folks, % % Maybe I have a case of the stupids here, but I used the gpgrc file that % comes with the source distro and when I sign a mail with my GPG signature % the entire message gets converted to SMIME format. You've already heard a bit on S/MIME vs PGP/MIME, so I won't go there. Suffice it to say that this is the default because it's the Rigt Way. While I may get my hand slapped ;-) for telling you this, you certainly can do it All The Wrong Way and sign things in the body for the poor suckers who are stuck with LookOut! The easiest way to tell you is to upgrade to, or at least get the source tarball for, 1.2 and check out - contrib/gpg.rc search for 'old-style' and macro-ify that command - doc/PGP-Notes.txt search for 'old way' and adapt that macro HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
