Re: OT: OS definition thread
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 10:16:13PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: > > In Germany there's a campaign running to connect every school to the > > internet. IIRC, Microsoft and Compaq are involved by contributing > > hardware and software for free/for low price. So what to expect? > > Yuck. It's bad enough that MS practically owns all the schools in NA. > > > In Computer Science I spent two terms on creating a website on something > > dealing with new media (okay, surfing all the time and hacking it > > together in 1/2 day before deadline). Others students have to write web > > pages with Word and do some 'office' with Works. Again: what to expect? > > Computer Science? You mean, university level computer science? They > teach you to use MSWord at university? Get your money back, you were > cheated! Any idiot can use Word with no training. To spend money on > learning this is nothing more than a waste. Well, while I would agree that word isn't computer science...people could stand to learn it properlynearly everyone I know absolutely mangles stuff with it, similarly with excel. Like most things, it is easy to use badly. Michael -- Dr Michael A. Maibaum - (W)+1 (415) 561 1682 - (H)+1 (415) 626 6733 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.gene-hacker.net/> msg26410/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: OS definition thread
--1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: > In Germany there's a campaign running to connect every school to the > internet. IIRC, Microsoft and Compaq are involved by contributing > hardware and software for free/for low price. So what to expect? Yuck. It's bad enough that MS practically owns all the schools in NA. > In Computer Science I spent two terms on creating a website on something > dealing with new media (okay, surfing all the time and hacking it > together in 1/2 day before deadline). Others students have to write web > pages with Word and do some 'office' with Works. Again: what to expect? Computer Science? You mean, university level computer science? They teach you to use MSWord at university? Get your money back, you were cheated! Any idiot can use Word with no training. To spend money on learning this is nothing more than a waste. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- byob, v: Believing Your Own Bull --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pUodPTh2iSBKeccRAi8iAJwMLDE/0+I82FKggLLh6TqSCy5aswCfTFQm LStKsMdSH5z7g9HCKt0i+Eo= =A4Zv -END PGP SIGNATURE- --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY--
Re: X-Mailer header
--gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: $ Sven [and *dont* touch indent_prefix or sigdashes!] Why ever not?? :D $=20 $ --=20 $ Intolerant people should be shot. % Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Air pollution is really making us pay through the nose. --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pUk1PTh2iSBKeccRAqJTAJ0T28AjBulJ3Ifuy3jKLu8+C5vxKQCeO1dI 0IBfBaBEu/3yqQbNdbcbD7A= =waqW -END PGP SIGNATURE- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg--
Re: OT: OS definition thread
Hi, On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:51:00:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > Well, every high school in north america would have you think that > without a start button, a computer is completely useless and broken. In Germany there's a campaign running to connect every school to the internet. IIRC, Microsoft and Compaq are involved by contributing hardware and software for free/for low price. So what to expect? In Computer Science I spent two terms on creating a website on something dealing with new media (okay, surfing all the time and hacking it together in 1/2 day before deadline). Others students have to write web pages with Word and do some 'office' with Works. Again: what to expect? Discussions arise every now and then trying to figure out whose fault it actually is. No answer found so far, of course. Cheers, Rocco. msg26407/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gpg-key probs
Hi, On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:14:23:PM -0500 David T-G wrote: > Are there just one or two, or are there a bunch, or does anyone really > know? Do the servers in a given network synchronize with each other, or > do even they have problems? ,[ /home/pdmef/.gnupg/options ]- | | # Options for GnuPG | # Copyright 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. | # | [...] | # GnuPG can import a key from a HKP keyerver if one is missing | # for certain operations. Is you set this option to a keyserver | # you will be asked in such a case whether GnuPG should try to | # import the key from that server (server do syncronize with each | # other and DNS Round-Robin may give you a random server each time). | # Use "host -l pgp.net | grep www" to figure out a keyserver. | # | # If you do not want to use the default port 11371, you can give the | # name of the keyserver like this: | # x-hkp://keyserver.example.net:22742 | # If you have problems connecting through a buggy proxy, you can use this: | # x-broken-hkp://keyserver.example.net:11371 | # But first you should make sure that you have read the man page regarding | # proxies (--honor-http-proxy) | # Most users just set the name of the preferred keyserver. | keyserver blackhole.pca.dfn.de | `- Cheers, Rocco. msg26406/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
smime_keys
Hey, I finally had some time to left to set up S/MIME with Mutt 1.5.0 on Debian and FreeBSD. According to the documentation, I initially try to run 'smime_keys init'. The sample smime.rc is sourced in .muttrc, OpenSSL is installed on both systems. In fact, on FreeBSD (and this is extraordinary strange) it refuses to run since it the scrip at least requires version 1.5.0. I have 1.5.0i. On Debian it suddenly dies at line 236 without any verbosity. So I looked at the source of the script and set everything up by hand so that it now seems to work. Anybody else having had such trouble? Cheers, Rocco. msg26405/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X-Mailer header
* Michael Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > X-Mailer is now deprecated in favor of User-Agent. > Thus, Mutt weeds any x-mailer fields it finds in the > header and replaces it with its own User-Agent field. * David Collantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-29 19:38]: > I still do not understand. If I am given the choice to > set any header I want on Mutt, why should the header > be weed? I am already telling Mutt to set the > User-Agent, but what if I want X-Mailer too? What if > I use X-Mailer for something else? Shouldn't it be > left alone? Please correct if I am wrong and explain. What use is the identification of the user agent when everyone can set what he wants? "you sent your mail with 'cat'? kewl!" not! Sven [and *dont* touch indent_prefix or sigdashes!] -- Intolerant people should be shot.
Re: Signature report
> However, there is still the status bar to help in the confirmation (and > designed for that purpose). If i write a message to the mutt list, sign it with my key, and forge a from header that makes it appear to come from you, the status bar will display, "PGP signature successfully verified." and the only signal to the user that something is up will be the PGP text, which would say something like: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Fri 29 Mar 2002 03:26:10 PM EST) --] gpg: Signature made Fri 29 Mar 2002 03:24:44 PM EST using DSA key ID 8937D7B6 gpg: Good signature from "Mike Schiraldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" gpg: aka "Mike Schiraldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" [-- End of PGP output --] If that report were printed at the end of the message, i could just end my message with a ton of blank lines and few people would bother scrolling to the end. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg26403/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Signature report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Mike Schiraldi on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 02:41:09PM -0500: > > Is there anywy to get mutt putting the gpg/pgp signature check > > report 'after' the message, instead of top? > > That could be bad, as people could end their email with a fake report > and a bunch of ~s. However, there is still the status bar to help in the confirmation (and designed for that purpose). To answer the question, I don't think that there is a way. Check the archives from maybe two months ago, I think there was a discussion about coloring this output differently to hide it; perhaps there was some mention of other manipulation. - -- [!] Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP 0xC9C40C31 -=- http://codesorcery.net http://www.mpp.org/releases/nr031802.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pMuR94d6K8nEDDERAmCpAJwN8hQAZ4ebt0SN9QUKwtBt8hRD2wCdHCUL LB7fNJqYRu83ww/FmS+u6EI= =oXiB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Macro doesn't push enter
* Robert Conde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-29 14:58]: > macro index I "!\r" works fine, but > macro generic I "!\r" gives me the error > hange-folder>=! is not a mailbox. Is there a function in the generic set for change-folder? I didn't see one. (darren) -- If I worked as much as others I would do as little as they.
Re: Macro doesn't push enter
Robert Conde wrote: > macro index I "!\r" works fine, but > macro generic I "!\r" gives me the error > hange-folder>=! is not a mailbox. > > > Why's that? well change-folder doesn't work in all sections; try just using the macro in the index and pager. you can't change folders (AFAIK) from the file browser, although i occasinally wish that you could. -- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >
Re: Macro doesn't push enter
macro index I "!\r" works fine, but macro generic I "!\r" gives me the error hange-folder>=! is not a mailbox. Why's that? -R On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 11:32:41AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > Robert Conde wrote: > > > I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open > > the spool file with alt-1 (I have set meta_key). > > > > macro generic 1 ":push c!" "open spool file" > > > > It almost works. I have to type alt-1 . It isn't pushing > > enter for me. What's up with that > > i use something like this: > macro index I "!\r", and it works fine for me. > > -- > Will Yardley > input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . > -- Robert S Conde PGP Key: 0xE94C96E3 msg26399/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Macro doesn't push enter
That works. Thanks. -R On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 11:32:41AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > Robert Conde wrote: > > > I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open > > the spool file with alt-1 (I have set meta_key). > > > > macro generic 1 ":push c!" "open spool file" > > > > It almost works. I have to type alt-1 . It isn't pushing > > enter for me. What's up with that > > i use something like this: > macro index I "!\r", and it works fine for me. > > -- > Will Yardley > input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . > -- Robert S Conde PGP Key: 0xE94C96E3 msg26398/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: OS definition thread
--0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: > This isn't my opinion, this is basic computer science. What are they > teaching you kids in those schools these days? Well, every high school in north america would have you think that without a start button, a computer is completely useless and broken. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is difficult to soar with the eagles when you work with turkeys. --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pMWkPTh2iSBKeccRAmw3AJ9ujqjuz2Qo6LwNqLunOnEqqc0DegCbBg61 pUwpN0SNLFstE+Wf5+bE6No= =hs/9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl--
Re: Signature report
> Is there anywy to get mutt putting the gpg/pgp signature check report > 'after' the message, instead of top? That could be bad, as people could end their email with a fake report and a bunch of ~s. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg26396/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: OS / distro / kernel
--cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Kai Blin spake thus: > You mean like emacs? That nice OS with the bad editor? Hey, did you know that you can actually run Vim from inside Emacs? Now Emacs finally has a decent editor ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they become soggy and hard to light. Do not throw cigarette butts in the urinal, for they are subtle and quick to anger. --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pMTzPTh2iSBKeccRAv5bAJ9Cra2f5kM9lQ19ll+i/1WuyXZMiwCfd3JJ N7jH/CP5okf84Lyd11sVINM= =nsvu -END PGP SIGNATURE- --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp--
Re: OT: OS definition thread
> > No, not really. It's marketing. > > The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's > been presented. It agrees with what I said. Get over it. Okay, i think this argument is finished. I'll summarize: Some people believe that the Operating System is the kernel plus the stuff in /bin. Some people believe it's more than that. Some people believe it's less than that. There's no ultimate authority on the matter, and as demonstrated, even computer scientists have varied opinions on it. Usually Webster's dictionary is used to settle this sort of dispute, but they're not very helpful in this case. So we're just going to have to agree to disagree and let the offtopic thread die. msg26395/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why is http address attachet to header?
--mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jerome De Greef spake thus: > > So, that is correct behavior from the mailer, and incorrect behavior > > from the user. :-) >=20 > I don't know if it's only here but using mutt with vim if I type a > line right after the headers, without any blank line inbetween vim (or > mutt) is adding the blank line automatically... So you're saying that when you go to type a message, vim automatically inserts the blank line for you? By any chance, are you pressing the "o" key to enter insert mode when you are on that first blank line after the headers? ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G. B. Shaw to William Douglas Home: "Go on writing plays, my boy. One of these days a London producer will go into his office and say to his secretary, `Is there a play from Shaw this morning?' and when she says `No,' he will say, `Well, then we'll have to start on the rubbish.' And that's your chance, my boy." --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pMSDPTh2iSBKeccRAhM8AJ9euShpqKFwI/Il0zWe6LMpzYF97wCfalQ4 YeZhurFES1FX0JjF24SS9wM= =ueTg -END PGP SIGNATURE- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ--
Re: X-Mailer header
On 03-29-2002 at 12:48 EST, Michael Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said > > that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will > > take it out when postponing. My question is, what variable tells Mutt to set > > the X-Mailer header? I know I can (and I do) set user-agent = "yes", but > > which for X-Mailer? > > X-Mailer is now deprecated in favor of User-Agent. Thus, Mutt weeds any > x-mailer fields it finds in the header and replaces it with its own > User-Agent field. I still do not understand. If I am given the choice to set any header I want on Mutt, why should the header be weed? I am already telling Mutt to set the User-Agent, but what if I want X-Mailer too? What if I use X-Mailer for something else? Shouldn't it be left alone? Please correct if I am wrong and explain. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
Signature report
Is there anywy to get mutt putting the gpg/pgp signature check report 'after' the message, instead of top? -- ais, ais/at/pobox/dot/com Registered Linux User #93375 - - - 2:348/610@fidonet GnuPG key: 1024D/5C4839A5 2002-02-07 There's a race between programmers making better idiot-proof SW, vs Universe making better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Re: Macro doesn't push enter
Robert Conde wrote: > I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open > the spool file with alt-1 (I have set meta_key). > > macro generic 1 ":push c!" "open spool file" > > It almost works. I have to type alt-1 . It isn't pushing > enter for me. What's up with that i use something like this: macro index I "!\r", and it works fine for me. -- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >
Re: OT: OS definition thread
* On 2002.03.29, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, * "Shawn McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > begin quoting what David Champion said on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:58:32PM -0600: > > No, not really. It's marketing. > > The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's > been presented. It agrees with what I said. Get over it. You're the best, Shawn! *smooch* -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Macro doesn't push enter
I have the following line in my muttrc file so that I can quickly open the spool file with alt-1 (I have set meta_key). macro generic 1 ":push c!" "open spool file" It almost works. I have to type alt-1 . It isn't pushing enter for me. What's up with that -R -- Robert S Conde PGP Key: 0xE94C96E3 msg26388/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: OS definition thread
begin quoting what David Champion said on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:58:32PM -0600: > No, not really. It's marketing. The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's been presented. It agrees with what I said. Get over it. msg26387/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: OS definition thread
* On 2002.03.29, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, * "Shawn McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SunOS 5.8 is a component of the Solaris operating environment. Guess > what OS stands for? SunOS 5.8 is the KERNEL, not the operating > environment. That's not actually true. "SunOS" refers to the kernel and the basic UNIX components -- including ps and sh. The "Solaris Operating Environment" refers to SunOS plus all add-on packaged that they ship: OpenWindows (if present), CDE, volume management software, network management software, etc. > This isn't my opinion, this is basic computer science. What are they > teaching you kids in those schools these days? No, not really. It's marketing. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Debian package with trash
Michael Montagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It appears that the trash folder patch did not make it into the latest > "testing" version at Debian.org. Version 1.3.28-1. Are there any .deb > files out there with this patch included? I maintain a Debian package for Mutt: I take the official Debian package (from Marco d'Itri), add almost all patches from Cédric Duval, and remove MixMaster and GNUTLS[1]. Gory details and download[2] at http://www.friry.nom.fr/gnu/mutt/ Benoît [1]: If I was able to keep GNUTLS support, I would have done it... but I haven't yet succeded to build my package with GNUTLS. ;p [2]: My own machine, with only ADSL bandwidth.
Debian package with trash
It appears that the trash folder patch did not make it into the latest "testing" version at Debian.org. Version 1.3.28-1. Are there any .deb files out there with this patch included? -- Michael Montagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.boora.com
Re: X-Mailer header
David Collantes wrote: > On submitted bug (now closed I believe) I stated that the X-Mailer header > was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said > that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will > take it out when postponing. My question is, what variable tells Mutt to set > the X-Mailer header? I know I can (and I do) set user-agent = "yes", but > which for X-Mailer? > > If it is not generated by Mutt, then my bug is still a bug. X-Mailer is now deprecated in favor of User-Agent. Thus, Mutt weeds any x-mailer fields it finds in the header and replaces it with its own User-Agent field.
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
Thomas E. Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > "experience" is another of those words, that in the context of > advertising, is a guarantee that the author is an idiot and should be > ignored. Beaten is the term that comes to my mind. ;-) HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: X-Mailer header
David Collantes wrote: > > On submitted bug (now closed I believe) I stated that the X-Mailer header > was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said > that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will > take it out when postponing. My question is, what variable tells Mutt to set > the X-Mailer header? I know I can (and I do) set user-agent = "yes", but > which for X-Mailer? > > If it is not generated by Mutt, then my bug is still a bug. there's no variable; you just set my_hdr X-Mailer: -- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >
X-Mailer header
Hi there! On submitted bug (now closed I believe) I stated that the X-Mailer header was not kept after a message was postponed. The guy who closed the bug said that Mutt expects that header to be generated by itself (Mutt), so it will take it out when postponing. My question is, what variable tells Mutt to set the X-Mailer header? I know I can (and I do) set user-agent = "yes", but which for X-Mailer? If it is not generated by Mutt, then my bug is still a bug. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." msg26380/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wrong date / time in emails
cruciatuz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > yes, i am located in central-germany. > i started "setup" on my mandrake-box and i could choose a timezone. > i selected "MET". (isn't it better to select Europe/Berlin as timezone?) > now, date says: Don Mär 28 12:48:37 UTC 2002 > ^^^ > is it ok now? No. You Date header shows Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:49:05 -0500 Check /etc/sysconfig/clock Change the ZONE line to ZONE=Europe/Berlin HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
OT: OS definition thread
Just to throw a little fuel on the fire: Look in the Sun training catalog, at how they define the products themselves. "Solaris 8 Operating Environment". Look at their web page: http://www.sun.com/solaris/ They call it the same thing. Then do a uname -a on a Solaris 8 system: SunOS chtsjs01 5.8 Generic_108528-05 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-2 SunOS 5.8 is a component of the Solaris operating environment. Guess what OS stands for? SunOS 5.8 is the KERNEL, not the operating environment. If they were so inclined and appropriately licensed, Debian could do a distribution with the SunOS kernel, just like they do with the Hurd. Hurd is an OS kernel; Debian is a distribution. SunOS is an OS kernel; Solaris is an Operating Environment, I.E. a distribution. Linux is an OS kernel; Debian is a distribution, I.E. an operating environment. The parallels aren't a concidence, that's how you build a working system out of an OS. Things like "ps" and "bash" aren't part of the OS, even if you personally can't get any use out of the system without them. It is possible to build a system with nothing but a Linux OS and no filesystems, that accomplishes useful work. The other bits make it more useful, but are not required. This isn't my opinion, this is basic computer science. What are they teaching you kids in those schools these days? msg26378/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why is http address attachet to header?
* Shawn McMahon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > begin quoting what Patrik Modesto said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:24:42AM +0100: > > I create new message, then to the first empty line under header i write > > http://www.something.com and send this mail. This address is send as a > > part of email's header and body of this mail is empty. Why? Is this > > correct? > > The header is everything up to the first empty line. You're placing > text immediately after the header, thus making it part of the header. > > So, that is correct behavior from the mailer, and incorrect behavior > from the user. :-) I don't know if it's only here but using mutt with vim if I type a line right after the headers, without any blank line inbetween vim (or mutt) is adding the blank line automatically... Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: OT: OS / distro / kernel
* Ricardo SIGNES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [28/03/02, 11:45:42]: [...] > The question of which is right is probably flame material. We both have our > reasons to say we're right. Based on something like Bach's "Design of the UNIX > Operating System," the kernel is technically the OS. Based on the definition > of GNU, many user-space applications are also the OS. You mean like emacs? That nice OS with the bad editor? Sorry, couldn't help it. Now I've propably started an editor war, too :) Please flame to /dev/null and keep it off the list. Cheers, Kai -- Kai Blin, Sysop hp: http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/thm/molgen/ Univ. of Tuebingen Inst. of Human Genetics fon +49-7071-2974890 Wilhelmstrasse 27 Dept. of Molecular Genetics fax +49-7071-295233 D-72074 Tuebingen Do molecular biologists wear designer genes?
