Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast flag thrown out

2005-05-09 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 01:49:32PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 11:17:37AM -0600, Brandon Beattie wrote:
  On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:14:17PM -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
   As far as I understand it, correct.  Asset owners could put any number
   of whatever flags they want on their content.  Asset playback devices
   just don't have to honour it any way.
   
   b.
  
  Correct, the pcHDTV just throws the bit away when it gets it.
 
 Actually the software (MythTV etc) will be ignoring it; it'll be in the
 stream sent by the pcHDTV to the CPU though.

True but misleading.

The duty to obey the flag was (before the law was struck down) on the
tuner.  So whether it passed it through or not, what would have mattered
after July 1 was that the tuner card did not obey the flag rules and
dared to send clear content to any PC app (including of course Myth.)

If somebody were to build a tuner-card/MythTV combo that were bound
together and claim it BF compliant, then the duty to obey would have
fallen on both.  A robustness requirement in the struck down law would
have required that the card in the combo not talk to software that
had not pledged alleigence to the flag, and the software would have
to be secure from tampering, store video encrypted etc.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recordings spontaneously slow down

2005-05-09 Thread Craig Read
Craig Read wrote:
Philip Nelson wrote:
 

I've been having a problem for a while (but only since switching to
.17), where occasionally, partway through recording something, it will
suddenly slow down -- the  video slows to about 70% normal speed, and
the audio drops in pitch accordingly.  It doesn't happen all the time,
and I cannot reproduce it, nor do I have any idea as to what causes it.
I know that the problem is during recording, because if I export the
.nuv to another format, the problem remains.  Has anybody else had this
problem?
  

I am having either the same problem as you or something similar (also
happened since 0.17) - part way through a recording, quite randomly, 
sound
drops out totally and video slows right down. Eventually (perhaps 5-10
minutes) it speeds up again, but audio doesn't come back - it's very
frustrating.
 

That's exactly the same problem I'm having Philip.  I'm in Australia 
and it's only occurring  on 3 channels (9, 7 and 10), but doesn't 
happen on 2 or SBS.

Are you using dvb? For me, when this happens, the mpeg stream goes 
bad for
a second or two (as if I've got a low signal, but I don't think I do),
audio then cuts out and video goes slow. It seems to happen quite
randomly, and has happened when I've been watching live tv - I changed
channels, changed back and it was fine again.

I am using dvb (two Twinhan DST cards), and it does seem to happen 
when I get poor signal for a second or two (either due to signal 
problems or the back-end not keeping up with error correction).  I 
haven't noticed it while watching live tv, but I don't use the box to 
watch live tv. 
I have done some testing today and have noticed this occurring on Live 
TV as well.  When I view the mythfrontend output, I always get 
prebuffering pause or decoding error in the log just when it 
happens.  It seems to happen less when I turn extra sound buffering OFF.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythvideo no controls while playing

2005-05-09 Thread Colin Humphreys
Scott Arthur wrote:
I've just installed 0.17 and when I play a video in Mythvideo, mplayer 
doesn't respond to any keys.

If I run mplayer directly through .xinitrc it works fine with normal 
mplayer keys, but when it's called through mythvideo, there's no 
response from any keys??

Any ideas?
Sounds like a focus problem with your window manager. mplayer is 
starting, but the focus is staying with mythtv. What window manager are 
you using?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Unable to pull up MythWeb

2005-05-09 Thread Chris Petersen
I've got MythWeb running but am unable to get to the administration page 
or scehduler. Is there some security setting that I need to change in 
SQL or Apache order to make this work?
Error logs?
-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Using MythTV for viewing both TV recordings and video's in seperate directories?

2005-05-09 Thread Brad Benson
On 5/8/05, Chad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did that, but in order to view the videos by clicking the file links
 was to create the video_dir symlink in the /mythweb directory.  This
 symlink must point to the directory containing the video files in
 order for it to work properly.
 The same is so for the recordings directory.  The recordings will not
 play if the video_dir symlink is not pointing to the directory holding
 the recordings.
 It seems to work one way or the other, I am hoping for a way to have
 it do both simultaneously.


I recall going through this myself a while back.  I just checked my
mythweb directory and I have a symlink named video_dir that points to
myth's recordings directory and a different symlink named video_url
that points to the mythvideo directory.  Then again, I'm running cvs
from a few weeks ago, not the release version of 0.18.

Brad
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[mythtv-users] Re: Palm video from mythtv nuv - TCPMP

2005-05-09 Thread scunacc
Dear All,

  Has anyone a suggestion for converting a .nuv file to use with the Core
  Pocket Media Player on a Palm?
 
  Have you tried nuvexport? The first thing I'd try would be nuvxeport to 
 divx.

Thanks for that tip, but it seems *awfully* slow... (esp. to get
started).

I started it nearly 10 mins ago and I still see:

...
Encode started:  Mon May  9 03:45:05 2005
Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos.
Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos.
Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos.
Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos.
Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos.
Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos.
Starting transcode.
processed:  0 of 0 frames (0.00%), 0 fps 
transcode finished.
processed:  0 of 271710 frames (0.00%), 0 fps 

and mythtranscode is soaking up 85+% of my CPU time...

  man transcode ? ;)

I tried transcode before posting. I get nuv import module errors. If you
have a suggestion for command line flags that would help directly, I'll
gladly try it again. I did RTM and attempted flags that seemed sensible,
but no combination of -y and -x worked properly. 

I rebuilt this from source, so I can do it again if need be if there's
something amiss perhaps in the build config.

 I'm assuming you're using a PVR-x50.  If so, see: 
 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/128948#128948 , 
 specifically Nick's suggestion (ProjectX).

No, sorry, I'm using a standard Hauppage card.

I'm talking rather about an apparently constant 2sec (or thereabouts) lead time 
on the audio.

I tried messing with this with mplex after I'd separated streams with avidemux2 
but to no avail.

(I could separate them further, but -ve numbers didn't seem to work to close 
the gap.)

 Basically, use ProjectX to demux the stream into MPEG-2 Video and an 
 MPEG-2 Layer 2 Audio stream, then recombine them with mplex.  You can 
 use Project X to cut commercials when demuxing or you can demux, then 
 remux, then use avidemux to cut/process the video.

ICK it's written in Java it says... Isn't that slow(er) again?

Any other suggestions? Anything welcome. Above thoughts appreciated.

Kind regards

Derek Jones.

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[mythtv-users] Front End - Back End? Diffrence?

2005-05-09 Thread Mr AG!!
Forgive me for being naive, but what does the front end and back end do
in relation to each other? is it possible to have one main myth
installation, and then have other 'front ends' running in other rooms? 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Setting up a DVB Card

2005-05-09 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 19:54 +1000, Phill Edwards wrote:
 So I'm assuming that from a o/s perspective the card is working, but
 for some reason myththv cant find it. The permissions on the device
 files are as follows:
 
 [~/.mythtv]$ ls -l /dev/dvb/adapter0/
 crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 4 May  7 16:57 demux0
 crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 5 May  7 16:57 dvr0
 crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 3 May  7 16:57 frontend0
 crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 7 May  7 16:57 net0
 I'm wondering whether there are supposed to be more devices in that
 directory such as audio0, ca0, osd0, video0 (as per
 http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html).

I only have the 4 device nodes you list on my box.

Check if mythbackend is running.  If it is, stop it - it seems to grab
devices and prevent mythtvsetup running correctly.

Nigel.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Front End - Back End? Diffrence?

2005-05-09 Thread Bryan Halter
Mr AG!! wrote:

Forgive me for being naive, but what does the front end and back end do
in relation to each other? is it possible to have one main myth
installation, and then have other 'front ends' running in other rooms? 

  



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The backend is the part that does the actual recording/storage.  The
frontend is the pretty gui process that allows you to watch the stuff
you recorded.  In my case I have an HTPC in my living room that runs the
backend and a frontend, I'm currently watching TV on a remote frontend
in my bedroom.  The beauty of this is that as long as you can retrieve
data from the hard drive of the backend you can stream it to a
frontend.  This is truely a distributed system especially when you start
getting into having slave backends but that's a story for another day.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Current state of a HushPC frontend?

2005-05-09 Thread James Stembridge
On 5/7/05, Paul Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found some stuff talking about issues using a HushPC as a frontend.  The
 problems that seemed to be present (at least for the Mini ITX variety) are: 
   
 - quality of the built in S-Video out 

I'm incredibly pleased with the s-video quality I'm getting from an
M10k. I'm using XvMC VLD decoding, bob deinterlacing and Terry
Barnaby's 720x576Noscale mode:

http://www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/unichromeTvOut.html

 - driver issues with the Mini-ITX motherboard. 

No issues here.

James.
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[mythtv-users] Re: Making best use of spare PCs

2005-05-09 Thread Daniel Howell
 Why are you transcoding these files when they're MPEG2 to start with?
 Here's a quick test - transfer one of your DVB recordings to a Windows
 machine, rename it to .mpg, and try to play it. If you've got MPEG2
 codecs installed, you should see crystal clear video.

Yes, I'd thought that, but a straight drag'n'drop to an XP box, rename and
play, and WMP doesn't recognise it. Most likely my recording profile is to
blame - are there any settings specific to making a DVD-compatible file
that I maybe am misunderstanding, do you think?

 If you are recording from either a DVB or a hardware MPEG2 card, the
 nuv file *is* an MPEG2 file. From another thread a few days ago
 regarding mastering DVDs from video, I use a combination of ProjectX
 to demux and correct any errors in the streams from the recorded file,
 and then Cuttermaran and/or DVD Hive to create MPEG2 and ISO files I
 can burn to DVD.

Yeah, I had planned to just remove the adverts and trim the start/ends
before burning - and much as I appreciate Myth has the cutlist to do this,
I find the editing is done so much easier in a GUI package - like yourself
I imagine.

I'll fiddle with nuvexport anyway - I'm sure it's maybe doing more
transcoding than it needs to - ie. just demuxing. Failing that, it must
be the recording profile settings. The cards are, as you say, DVB-T cards
so output a raw MPEG2 stream anyway.

Cheers,
Dan

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Re: [mythtv-users] Setting up a DVB Card

2005-05-09 Thread Phill Edwards
  So I'm assuming that from a o/s perspective the card is working, but
  for some reason myththv cant find it. The permissions on the device
  files are as follows:
 
  [~/.mythtv]$ ls -l /dev/dvb/adapter0/
  crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 4 May  7 16:57 demux0
  crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 5 May  7 16:57 dvr0
  crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 3 May  7 16:57 frontend0
  crw-rw-rw-  1 root mythtv 212, 7 May  7 16:57 net0
  I'm wondering whether there are supposed to be more devices in that
  directory such as audio0, ca0, osd0, video0 (as per
  http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html).
 
 I only have the 4 device nodes you list on my box.
 
 Check if mythbackend is running.  If it is, stop it - it seems to grab
 devices and prevent mythtvsetup running correctly.

Yes - that seemed to be it. Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Unable to pull up MythWeb

2005-05-09 Thread a M
Chris, point me in the direction for the logs and I'll post them.
Thanks,
From: Chris Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Unable to pull up MythWeb
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 23:37:29 -0700
I've got MythWeb running but am unable to get to the administration page 
or scehduler. Is there some security setting that I need to change in SQL 
or Apache order to make this work?
Error logs?
-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Current state of a HushPC frontend?

2005-05-09 Thread David Watkins
James wrote

 I'm incredibly pleased with the s-video quality I'm getting from an
 M10k. I'm using XvMC VLD decoding, bob deinterlacing and Terry
 Barnaby's 720x576Noscale mode:
 
 http://www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/unichromeTvOut.html
 

Are you using rpm versions of the drivers, or CVS?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Making best use of spare PCs

2005-05-09 Thread Jonathan Link
On 5/9/05, Daniel Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Why are you transcoding these files when they're MPEG2 to start with?
  Here's a quick test - transfer one of your DVB recordings to a Windows
  machine, rename it to .mpg, and try to play it. If you've got MPEG2
  codecs installed, you should see crystal clear video.
 
 Yes, I'd thought that, but a straight drag'n'drop to an XP box, rename and
 play, and WMP doesn't recognise it. Most likely my recording profile is to
 blame - are there any settings specific to making a DVD-compatible file
 that I maybe am misunderstanding, do you think?
 
Where did you get the MPEG2 codec?   IIRC, I was only able to watch my
shows after installing WinDVD (which has the MPEG2 codec) on y laptop.
 They do not come by default with Windows, and the fact that WMP
doesn't recognize it hints at not having the proper codec installed. 
If you have a Hauppage PVR-x50, you may be able to use the CD to
install the codec.
I'm not an expert, but this was my experience.
-Jonathan
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[mythtv-users] DVB problems

2005-05-09 Thread Phill Edwards
I've got a Kworld VStream Xpert PCI card installed and have done
channel scans. Now I've got a whole load of new channels listed but I
can't watch any of them.

When I try to watch LiveTV I get a blank screen with this is mythbackend.log:

2005-05-09 20:57:29.248 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2005-05-09 20:57:29.281 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully
(using PS mode).
2005-05-09 20:57:29.283 DVB#0 ERROR - No PIDS set, please correct your
channel setup.
2005-05-09 20:57:30.299 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:31.302 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:32.304 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:33.306 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:34.307 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:35.310 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:36.312 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:37.314 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:38.316 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:39.318 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:40.320 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:41.321 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:42.323 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:43.325 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:44.314 Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15
seconds. Stopping.
2005-05-09 20:57:44.327 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:44.344 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
2005-05-09 20:57:45.329 DVB#0 WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.
2005-05-09 20:57:45.331 Closing DVB recorder

Note near the top of the log it says No PIDS set, please correct your
channel setup. I guess that's the problem, but what does it mean?
What PIDS?

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Current state of a HushPC frontend?

2005-05-09 Thread James Stembridge
On 5/9/05, David Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you using rpm versions of the drivers, or CVS?

Neither, deb packages of cvs from http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~mfgalizi/epia/ .
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[mythtv-users] Bus Error? Hard drive failing?

2005-05-09 Thread James Pifer
I had a strange thing happen on my mythbackend. It's running FC3 (kernel
2.6.10-1.737_FC3) with 2 Maxtor 160gig drives in a logical volume.
Sometime early Saturday morning, between 3 and 4 AM, the machine seemed
to die. I already had a terminal session open on my laptop and if I
tried to do anything I kept getting errors, like bus error. Nothing more
specific than that. 

I was stuck so I powered off and back on and all I got was GRUB in the
top left corner and it would go no farther. 

So I started playing a little. I booted from linux rescue CD and ran
run_qtparted. It could see both hard drives, but it said /dev/hda was
empty. It could see ext2 on /dev/hdb. 

Then I booted from FC3 disc one because I wanted to see if the install
would see the Linux installation. All it seemed to see was /dev/hdb.

Next I booted from Maxtor's drive utility floppy to check out the
drives. I ran the quick test and long test on both drives and they both
passed all the tests. 

Then I rebooted the machine again, and now FC3 boots up! I had to go
through fsck a couple times, but now it's working. It's made three
recordings since then. The only problem I've had is when I tried
watching a recording from a remote frontend I got this error on the
backend a few minutes into it:
WriteBlock(): Aborting WriteBlock, write to socket failed!

This machine has been very stable for a pretty long time. I did just add
a Via VT6122 gigabit NIC last week. Up to this point it caused no issues
in the machine, but the same NIC did seem to cause some instability in
another FC3 machine I have. I don't know if it has anything to do with
it or not. 

Could this be the hard drive failing even though drive diagnostics says
it's fine? 
Anything else possibly happening?

I googled for bus error but it seems to be a non-specific error, or at
least I got results for all kinds of things causing bus error. 

Any wisdom is appreciate!

Thanks,
James

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Robert Tsai
If you feel like debugging, it looks like you don't have all the
modules compiled and/or installed; cx88-dvb depends on some other
module that provides tveeprom_xxx, etc.

More simply, the pchdtv.com website says the drivers are already
included with 2.6.12

I'm using ubuntu 2.6.12-rc4 with HD-3000 DVB with no problem. The
READMEs for the pcHDTV-2.0 drivers (included with 2.6.12-rc4) say what
modules you will need.

On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 11:45:16PM -0400, Michael Haan wrote:
 On 5/8/05, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.
  
  I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:
  
  make  make install
  
  However, modprobe cx88-dvb I get:
  WARNING: Error inserting or51132
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  FATAL: Error inserting cx8800
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting or51132
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88-dvb.ko): Unknown symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  FATAL: Error running install command for cx88_dvb
  
  And some of what dmesg reports is:
  
  or51132: Unknown symbol release_firmware
  or51132: Unknown symbol request_firmware
  cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read
  cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
  cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_reset
  cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_wakeup
  
  Can anyone help?
  
 
 Someone has to have done this.  Bueller?
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV and EM8300

2005-05-09 Thread Greg Estabrooks
 firmware uploads and I get a blank screen on the S-Video connection to
 my TV. Any ideas? I seem to get output on the VGA connection, but
 despite telling MythTV to use Hardware Accelerate out, it seems to
 ignore it completely and does plain old software out. There seems to be
 nothing being fired out from mythfrontend either (I log all the output
 just in case)

 Myth doesn't support the use of the Em8300 based cards, so no matter what 
you enable it would not be used.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Current state of a HushPC frontend?

2005-05-09 Thread David Watkins
On 09/05/05, James Stembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/9/05, David Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are you using rpm versions of the drivers, or CVS?
 
 Neither, deb packages of cvs from http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~mfgalizi/epia/ .
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Thanks James.  I hadn't seen that link before, and all information is
usefull.  I'm looking to take the PVR-350 out of my EPIA M1
combined front/backend, leaving the EPIA as a front end only, and put
the 350 into a new dedicated backend along with a NOVA-T DVB card.

I'm hoping that the Unichrome drivers will be at least as good as the
PVR350 output for mythTV, and a bit better than the 350 for mythVideo
(because more applications support XvMC output than support the 350's
hardware decoder).

Anyone able to comment on PVR-350 vs Unichrome, for playback quality?
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB problems

2005-05-09 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 21:52 +1000, Phill Edwards wrote:
 I've got a Kworld VStream Xpert PCI card installed and have done
 channel scans. Now I've got a whole load of new channels listed but I
 can't watch any of them.

I had something like this when I started my system.

It appears that if you let the xmltv schedule capture stuff kick in too
early it can give you some problems.

After asking on the list, I ended up scrubbing the myth database (ie
using the initial mythtvsetup options), and then doing the following:-
  * set up a capture card
  * set up a video source, but do the absolute minimum here - ie do
not configure any channels and definitely do not run
mythfilldatabase
  * link the capture card and the video source
  * channel editor - go in and then scan for channels - this will
leave you with a bunch of configured channels.

After this you should find you have a set of working channels. If you do
want to use an xmltv method to get schedule data (rather than the
default of pulling schedule data from the DVB off-air signals), then you
will have to go through each channel in the channel editor turning off
the off-air schedule data and assigning an xmltv identifier.

Nigel.

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[mythtv-users] ATI remote (keys instead of the mouse)

2005-05-09 Thread Micah F. Galizia
Hello all,

I've attached a little hack I made to the ATI remote driver.  It can
generate key events instead of mouse events for the dpad (and the l/r
mouse buttons).  I don't know if anyone else will find this useful, but
for me its more useful with myth.  Details are in the README.

Enjoy!
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[mythtv-users] DVB problems

2005-05-09 Thread Ben McKeegan
Hi,

I'm using the Debian Mythtv v0.17 packages on Debian Sarge with a couple
of Nova-T DVB cards (one each of Conexant and Philips chipsets), and I'm
having an annoying issue when channel hopping with my Nova-T DVB cards in
LiveTV.

The problem is that if I accidentally switch onto a channel for which
there is currently no program (such as a time-sliced channel outside of
its broadcasting hours), MythTv freezes up.  The backend reports 'DVB#0
WARNING - No data from card in 1 second.' warnings and eventually gives up
with 'Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Stopping.'.
Fair enough, but during this time the keys no longer work so I am unable
to switch to another channel, and the frontend either locks up completely
or takes me back out to the menu.

Furthermore, if I try to go back into LiveTv it immediately takes me back
to the same channel and freezes for 15 seconds before kicking me out
again, even if I restart the frontend.  The only way to use LiveTV again
is to restart the backend.

Has anybody else had this problem?  Is this something that has already
been fixed in more recent versions?

Cheers,
Ben.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Australian TV grabber (tv_grab_au)

2005-05-09 Thread Phill Edwards
 
 *sigh*
 
 As usual I missed, the release version is at:
 
   http://immir.com/tv_grab_au
 
 Only really foxtel channel list has been extended, so no need to
 download it if you don't use foxtel.
 
 Michael.

Michael - this is really excellent. Thanks very much for doing this
for us Aussies. I was wondering whether it's possible to enter
defaults into the config file for things like number of days data to
grab and default output file. If so, what would the syntax be? My
current file looks like this:

$conf = {
  'TZ' = '+1000',
  'services' = [
{
  'name' = 'free',
  'region' = 'Sydney',
  'regionid' = '73'
}
  ],
  'slow' = 1
};
$channels = {
  'ABC NSW' = 'nsw.abc.gov.au',
  'ABC2' = 'abc2.abc.gov.au',
  'CHANNEL NINE SYDNEY' = 'sydney.nine.com.au',
  'CHANNEL SEVEN SYDNEY' = 'sydney.seven.com.au',
  'NETWORK TEN SYDNEY' = 'sydney.ten.com.au',
  'SBS NEWS' = 'news.sbs.com.au',
  'SBS SYDNEY' = 'sydney.sbs.com.au'
};

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/9/05, Robert Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you feel like debugging, it looks like you don't have all the
 modules compiled and/or installed; cx88-dvb depends on some other
 module that provides tveeprom_xxx, etc.
 
 More simply, the pchdtv.com website says the drivers are already
 included with 2.6.12
 
 I'm using ubuntu 2.6.12-rc4 with HD-3000 DVB with no problem. The
 READMEs for the pcHDTV-2.0 drivers (included with 2.6.12-rc4) say what
 modules you will need.
 
 On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 11:45:16PM -0400, Michael Haan wrote:
  On 5/8/05, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.
  
   I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:
  
   make  make install
  
   However, modprobe cx88-dvb I get:
   WARNING: Error inserting or51132
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   FATAL: Error inserting cx8800
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   WARNING: Error inserting or51132
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb
   (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88-dvb.ko): Unknown symbol in
   module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
   FATAL: Error running install command for cx88_dvb
  
   And some of what dmesg reports is:
  
   or51132: Unknown symbol release_firmware
   or51132: Unknown symbol request_firmware
   cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read
   cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
   cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_reset
   cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_wakeup
  
   Can anyone help?
  
 
  Someone has to have done this.  Bueller?
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[mythtv-users] Kernel problem when accessing Watch Recordings page in MythTV

2005-05-09 Thread Phill Edwards
I've just installed a DVB card in my MythTV box. To ensure support for
the DVB drivers I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.11-1.14_FC3.

Most things are working now except for when I go into the Watch
Recordings page. When I do this I get this (just one line, nothing
else) in /var/log/messages:

   May  9 23:52:34 elm kernel: NVRM: Xid: 13,  02005600 1796
0c28 001100e3 0080

Everything then freezes up - keyboard, remote etc and I have to press
reset - unless I have an ssh session open from another PC in which
case that still works, so it doesn't seem to be a total o/s freeze,
but MythTV is certainly frozen.

I've seen some stuff suggesting this may be an nVidia bug. I have the
following nVidia pms installed:

   nvidia-graphics-devices-1.0-4.rhfc3.at
   nvidia-graphics7174-kmdl-2.6.11-1.14_FC3-1.0_7174-68.rhfc3.at
   nvidia-graphics-1.0.7174-6.at
   nvidia-graphics6629-kmdl-2.6.10-1.770_14.rhfc3.at-1.0_6629-65.1.rhfc3.at
   nvidia-graphics7174-1.0_7174-68.rhfc3.at
   nvidia-graphics-helpers-0.0.10-10.at
   nvidia-graphics7174-libs-1.0_7174-68.rhfc3.at
   nvidia-graphics6629-libs-1.0_6629-65.1.rhfc3.at
   nvidia-graphics6629-1.0_6629-65.1.rhfc3.at

Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this as I can't use MythTV
while this problem persists?

Regards,
Phill
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[mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Mark J. Small

Hi Everybody,

Something weird just starting happening to me on the weekend.

On Saturday I noticed that my backend had rebooted itself while recording 
South Park at 1:00 in the morning.  Ever since then, I haven't been able to 
seek properly while watching recorded programs.  Sometimes, when I try to 
skip thirty seconds, it will immediately jump about 1 second.  At other time 
it will pause for about 5-10 seconds and then complete the 30 second skip.  

When it is trying to skip, the OSD in the top right corner will do an 
interesting thing.  The total recording length will slowly change.  Perhaps 
having an innaccurate total recording length messes with the skipping and 
jumping.

Also, it takes several minutes to resume watching a program from a bookmark.  
All I get is a black screen for a long time, and suddenly the program resumes 
from the bookmark.

I'm running mythtv 0.17 on Debian Sarge, linux 2.4.something on the backend.

Any ideas?

Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Mark J. Small
On May 9, 2005 11:03 am, Mark J. Small wrote:
 Hi Everybody,

 Something weird just starting happening to me on the weekend.

 On Saturday I noticed that my backend had rebooted itself while recording
 South Park at 1:00 in the morning.  Ever since then, I haven't been able to
 seek properly while watching recorded programs.  Sometimes, when I try to
 skip thirty seconds, it will immediately jump about 1 second.  At other
 time it will pause for about 5-10 seconds and then complete the 30 second
 skip.

 When it is trying to skip, the OSD in the top right corner will do an
 interesting thing.  The total recording length will slowly change.  Perhaps
 having an innaccurate total recording length messes with the skipping and
 jumping.

 Also, it takes several minutes to resume watching a program from a
 bookmark. All I get is a black screen for a long time, and suddenly the
 program resumes from the bookmark.

 I'm running mythtv 0.17 on Debian Sarge, linux 2.4.something on the
 backend.

 Any ideas?

 Mark
 
It's me again.  Also, I am finding that the recording will randomly jump ahead 
a few seconds sometimes while I am watching.  It makes for a rather confusing 
experience.

Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Phill Wiggin
It sounds like your recordedmarkup table in your database is messed up.  
You might want to run a check on your database tables (check the MySQL 
website for info).  Also, try running mythcommflag from the commandline 
(it'll need to reflag all of your recordings.. check 'mythcommflag 
--help' for specifics).

I've had that problem before, and those are the steps I used.
Good luck!
--Phill
Mark J. Small wrote:
Hi Everybody,
Something weird just starting happening to me on the weekend.
On Saturday I noticed that my backend had rebooted itself while recording 
South Park at 1:00 in the morning.  Ever since then, I haven't been able to 
seek properly while watching recorded programs.  Sometimes, when I try to 
skip thirty seconds, it will immediately jump about 1 second.  At other time 
it will pause for about 5-10 seconds and then complete the 30 second skip.  

When it is trying to skip, the OSD in the top right corner will do an 
interesting thing.  The total recording length will slowly change.  Perhaps 
having an innaccurate total recording length messes with the skipping and 
jumping.

Also, it takes several minutes to resume watching a program from a bookmark.  
All I get is a black screen for a long time, and suddenly the program resumes 
from the bookmark.

I'm running mythtv 0.17 on Debian Sarge, linux 2.4.something on the backend.
Any ideas?
Mark
 


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[mythtv-users] Best O/S

2005-05-09 Thread Anil Gupte
Hi:
I am a newbie at MythTV.  I want to create a stable MythTV system that I can 
actually use and forget like an appliance.  What is the best Linux version I 
should use?  By that I mean the most stable, and having the most drivers.  I 
have used Debian and Slackware in the past, although I am far from an expert.

Any suggestions?
Thax,
Anil Gupte
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RE: [mythtv-users] Best O/S

2005-05-09 Thread Scott Farrand
You mean Distribution?

The easiest to setup is likely knoppmyth (http://www.mysettopbox.tv).

I really don't get into which is best.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anil Gupte
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:18 AM
 To: mythtv
 Subject: [mythtv-users] Best O/S
 
 Hi:
 
 I am a newbie at MythTV.  I want to create a stable MythTV system that I
 can
 actually use and forget like an appliance.  What is the best Linux version
 I
 should use?  By that I mean the most stable, and having the most drivers.
 I
 have used Debian and Slackware in the past, although I am far from an
 expert.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thax,
 Anil Gupte
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Preet Khalsa
Mark J. Small wrote:
Hi Everybody,
Something weird just starting happening to me on the weekend.
On Saturday I noticed that my backend had rebooted itself while recording 
South Park at 1:00 in the morning.  Ever since then, I haven't been able to 
seek properly while watching recorded programs.  Sometimes, when I try to 
skip thirty seconds, it will immediately jump about 1 second.  At other time 
it will pause for about 5-10 seconds and then complete the 30 second skip.  

When it is trying to skip, the OSD in the top right corner will do an 
interesting thing.  The total recording length will slowly change.  Perhaps 
having an innaccurate total recording length messes with the skipping and 
jumping.

Also, it takes several minutes to resume watching a program from a bookmark.  
All I get is a black screen for a long time, and suddenly the program resumes 
from the bookmark.

I'm running mythtv 0.17 on Debian Sarge, linux 2.4.something on the backend.
Any ideas?
 

Had the same problem.  The recorded markup table got corrupted.  Run
mysqlcheck mythconverg
and fix the errors.  You should be back in action quick.
Preet
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Re: [mythtv-users] Best O/S

2005-05-09 Thread Scott Francis
On 5/9/05, Scott Farrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You mean Distribution?
 
 The easiest to setup is likely knoppmyth (http://www.mysettopbox.tv).
 
 I really don't get into which is best.
 
 
Also look in the archives...the distribution wars have been argued
time and time again.  Each have their pluses and minuses.  The main
thing is to go with what you know best.  Other than that Knoppmyth and
Fedora are the two easiest/most documented.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast flag (tell me why myth users should care technically?)

2005-05-09 Thread Endaf Jones
Wendy Seltzer wrote:
The BF requires compliant devices not to transmit unencrypted 
high-def streams over any user-accessible bus.  Instead, they must 
implement the flag in a manner robust against user modification -- 
so if they'd seen the flag, they could only allow down-rez'd signals 
over the PCI bus for capture or playback.

That's why it would be impossible to build a MythTV system around a 
BF-compliant card.  Anytime the flag were applied, you wouldn't be 
able to get the stream at all. 

Thank you Wendy.  I know understand the BF path after you filled me in
on the missing blanks.
This is not good.
# Endaf

Wendy Seltzer wrote:
At 3:02 PM -0600 5/8/05, Endaf Jones wrote:
Thank you Joe for your comments.
Very simply: If the Broadcast flag becomes law, all ATSC recording
devices with Linux drivers will no longer be sold.  Your hardware
selection will GO AWAY.  That's why it is important, even to Canadians.

However (and I'm not trying to be argumentative, but rather stir the 
pot in order to make the readers think about what is truly happening),

The point I'm trying to say here is that, irregardless if our 
ATSC/DVB PCI card vendors honor the BF (Broadcast Flag) or not, does 
it really matter?  What would be the tangible difference it bit 
streams coming out of the cards?  Are they not simply passing the 
stream down to the OS and isn't it the OS (or perhaps the player) 
that needs to honor/control the BF legislation requirements instead?

The BF requires compliant devices not to transmit unencrypted 
high-def streams over any user-accessible bus.  Instead, they must 
implement the flag in a manner robust against user modification -- 
so if they'd seen the flag, they could only allow down-rez'd signals 
over the PCI bus for capture or playback.

That's why it would be impossible to build a MythTV system around a 
BF-compliant card.  Anytime the flag were applied, you wouldn't be 
able to get the stream at all.

--Wendy

Is there a whole other aspect of the BF concept that isn't being 
talked about?  Is the problem really going to be the application 
(storage and playback as in MythTV) that needs to be BF compliant 
and not the hardware?

# Endaf
Joe Barnhart wrote:
--- Endaf Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why does the flag matter to us myth users ? (in terms of hardware
selection)
 

Yes, technically, some savvy Canadian company could start creating and
shipping Linux ATSC cards, but they could not be sold in the U.S. 
Without a major market, it would be prohibitive to develop the ICs and
card (remember, the current IC makers are U.S. based and would have to
honor the ruling.)

Of course, any ATSC recording hardware acquired NOW will never be
limited by the Broadcast flag -- they are grandfathered under the
Broadcast flag ruling.  Which is why there's been such a run on cards
in the U.S.
The Broadcast flag provision that was just struck down was a ruling
by our FCC, which is just an executive department and lacked the
authority to create new law.  The issue will now be brought to Congress
where the MPAA will have to spread large amounts of money to buy enough
access (i.e. votes) to pass their law. (I admit to being just a tiny
bit cynical when it comes to copyright issues and our legislative
bodies.)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Best O/S

2005-05-09 Thread Colin Smillie
On 5/9/05, Anil Gupte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I am a newbie at MythTV.  I want to create a stable MythTV system that I can
 actually use and forget like an appliance.  What is the best Linux version I
 should use?  By that I mean the most stable, and having the most drivers.  I
 have used Debian and Slackware in the past, although I am far from an expert.

I think Fedora is probably one of the easist to get going.  The
disadvantage is that is sort like being on a threadmill because its
continuing being updated and obsoleted.

Jarod has a great guide on Fedora setup here: 

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

And its well supported by Axel's ATRPMs.net

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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB problems

2005-05-09 Thread John Pullan
On 09/05/05, Ben McKeegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Has anybody else had this problem?  Is this something that has already
Yes (it's in bugzilla)

http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=261
http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=271

 been fixed in more recent versions?
 
No (ir's on the TODO list)


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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB problems

2005-05-09 Thread John Pullan
Quick thought, have you got your initial channel set to something sensible ?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Mark J. Small
On May 9, 2005 11:32 am, Preet Khalsa wrote:
 Mark J. Small wrote:
 Hi Everybody,
 
 Something weird just starting happening to me on the weekend.
 
 On Saturday I noticed that my backend had rebooted itself while recording
 South Park at 1:00 in the morning.  Ever since then, I haven't been able
  to seek properly while watching recorded programs.  Sometimes, when I try
  to skip thirty seconds, it will immediately jump about 1 second.  At
  other time it will pause for about 5-10 seconds and then complete the 30
  second skip.
 
 When it is trying to skip, the OSD in the top right corner will do an
 interesting thing.  The total recording length will slowly change. 
  Perhaps having an innaccurate total recording length messes with the
  skipping and jumping.
 
 Also, it takes several minutes to resume watching a program from a
  bookmark. All I get is a black screen for a long time, and suddenly the
  program resumes from the bookmark.
 
 I'm running mythtv 0.17 on Debian Sarge, linux 2.4.something on the
  backend.
 
 Any ideas?

 Had the same problem.  The recorded markup table got corrupted.  Run

 mysqlcheck mythconverg

 and fix the errors.  You should be back in action quick.

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Thanks,

I fixed the errors in the recorded markup table using mysqlcheck, and I also 
ran mythcommflag --rebuild.  But I still can't seek properly.  The recorded 
length is correct or at least consant now, but skipping only moves a couple 
of seconds.  Anything else I can try?

Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Nate Thompson
On 5/9/05, Mark J. Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On May 9, 2005 11:32 am, Preet Khalsa wrote:
  Mark J. Small wrote:
  Hi Everybody,
  
  Something weird just starting happening to me on the weekend.
  
  On Saturday I noticed that my backend had rebooted itself while recording
  South Park at 1:00 in the morning.  Ever since then, I haven't been able
   to seek properly while watching recorded programs.  Sometimes, when I try
   to skip thirty seconds, it will immediately jump about 1 second.  At
   other time it will pause for about 5-10 seconds and then complete the 30
   second skip.
  
  When it is trying to skip, the OSD in the top right corner will do an
  interesting thing.  The total recording length will slowly change.
   Perhaps having an innaccurate total recording length messes with the
   skipping and jumping.
  
  Also, it takes several minutes to resume watching a program from a
   bookmark. All I get is a black screen for a long time, and suddenly the
   program resumes from the bookmark.
  
  I'm running mythtv 0.17 on Debian Sarge, linux 2.4.something on the
   backend.
  
  Any ideas?
 
  Had the same problem.  The recorded markup table got corrupted.  Run
 
  mysqlcheck mythconverg
 
  and fix the errors.  You should be back in action quick.
 
  Preet
 
 
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 Thanks,
 
 I fixed the errors in the recorded markup table using mysqlcheck, and I also
 ran mythcommflag --rebuild.  But I still can't seek properly.  The recorded
 length is correct or at least consant now, but skipping only moves a couple
 of seconds.  Anything else I can try?
 
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Do you have libmpeg2 decoding enabled? I had problems with seeking
working properly with this enabled.

Nate
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Kyle Rose
 I've tried on a few occasions to upgrade my kernel beyond 2.6.9. 
 Unfortunately, doing so seems to break support for my onboard SATA
 controllers.

Which driver are you using?  SCSI (libata) or the IDE driver?

Kyle
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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Preet Khalsa

Thanks,
I fixed the errors in the recorded markup table using mysqlcheck, and I also 
ran mythcommflag --rebuild.  But I still can't seek properly.  The recorded 
length is correct or at least consant now, but skipping only moves a couple 
of seconds.  Anything else I can try?
 

I found that the recording made while the table was corrupt were that 
way and stayed that way.  Recordings before and after were fine.  Unless 
someone else has an idea there is nothing you can do for past history.

Preet
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/9/05, Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've tried on a few occasions to upgrade my kernel beyond 2.6.9.
  Unfortunately, doing so seems to break support for my onboard SATA
  controllers.
 
 Which driver are you using?  SCSI (libata) or the IDE driver?
 
 Kyle
 

I don't recall the name, but whichever is the more current.  I tried
it with the older one, and got a whole bunch of unexpectedness, so
switched back.  It's odd, but with 2.6.9 it all just works, but
anything above that and the machine seems to freeze (though it's not
really frozen) at the point where its bringing the drives online.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Kyle Rose
 I don't recall the name, but whichever is the more current.  I tried
 it with the older one, and got a whole bunch of unexpectedness, so
 switched back.  It's odd, but with 2.6.9 it all just works, but
 anything above that and the machine seems to freeze (though it's not
 really frozen) at the point where its bringing the drives online.

Okay, you really need to get a better idea of what you're using before
making this determination.  Can you post your kernel .config so we can
see what you're actually using?  It would also be helpful to know what
motherboard you're using.

Kyle
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[mythtv-users] Re:Myth Game issue????

2005-05-09 Thread Reggie Braswell
Try it with the full path. i.e. xmame
/home/mythtv/games/xmame/roms/pacman  I had a similar issue and my
roms would work with the full path expression. Don't quite know why.
Didn't dig that far as after dinking with this some mysql all of a
sudden took a nose dive for some reason and I lost the machine.
Haven't gotten it reloaded yet.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Mark J. Small
On May 9, 2005 12:05 pm, Nate Thompson wrote:
 On 5/9/05, Mark J. Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On May 9, 2005 11:32 am, Preet Khalsa wrote:
   Mark J. Small wrote:
   Hi Everybody,
   
   Something weird just starting happening to me on the weekend.
   
   On Saturday I noticed that my backend had rebooted itself while
recording South Park at 1:00 in the morning.  Ever since then, I
haven't been able to seek properly while watching recorded programs. 
Sometimes, when I try to skip thirty seconds, it will immediately
jump about 1 second.  At other time it will pause for about 5-10
seconds and then complete the 30 second skip.
   
   When it is trying to skip, the OSD in the top right corner will do an
   interesting thing.  The total recording length will slowly change.
Perhaps having an innaccurate total recording length messes with the
skipping and jumping.
   
   Also, it takes several minutes to resume watching a program from a
bookmark. All I get is a black screen for a long time, and suddenly
the program resumes from the bookmark.
   
   I'm running mythtv 0.17 on Debian Sarge, linux 2.4.something on the
backend.
   
   Any ideas?
  
   Had the same problem.  The recorded markup table got corrupted.  Run
  
   mysqlcheck mythconverg
  
   and fix the errors.  You should be back in action quick.
  
   Preet
  
  
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  Thanks,
 
  I fixed the errors in the recorded markup table using mysqlcheck, and I
  also ran mythcommflag --rebuild.  But I still can't seek properly.  The
  recorded length is correct or at least consant now, but skipping only
  moves a couple of seconds.  Anything else I can try?
 
  Mark
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 Do you have libmpeg2 decoding enabled? I had problems with seeking
 working properly with this enabled.

 Nate
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No, I don't.  Oh well, I have a new recording starting in half an hour.  
Hopefully that one will be okay now that my database has been fixed

Thanks all,

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Re: [mythtv-users] Unable to pull up MythWeb

2005-05-09 Thread Chris Petersen
Chris, point me in the direction for the logs and I'll post them.
well, they're usually stored somewhere like /var/log/httpd/error_log -- 
but that depends on your apache setup.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird seeking problems

2005-05-09 Thread Phill Wiggin

I found that the recording made while the table was corrupt were that 
way and stayed that way.  Recordings before and after were fine.  
Unless someone else has an idea there is nothing you can do for past 
history.

Preet

I don't have access to my mythbox right now.. but in my particular 
situation, I had to either delete the data from the recordedmarkup table 
(mysql command: 'delete * from recordedmarkup') then run mythcommflag, 
or I had to manually force mythcommflag to replace all the data (I don't 
recall if --rebuild is the appropriate option, though it sounds right).

I'll look at my mythbox after work and see if I can shed more light on 
what I did to fix the problem.

Good Luck
--Phill W.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/9/05, Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't recall the name, but whichever is the more current.  I tried
  it with the older one, and got a whole bunch of unexpectedness, so
  switched back.  It's odd, but with 2.6.9 it all just works, but
  anything above that and the machine seems to freeze (though it's not
  really frozen) at the point where its bringing the drives online.
 
 Okay, you really need to get a better idea of what you're using before
 making this determination.  Can you post your kernel .config so we can
 see what you're actually using?  It would also be helpful to know what
 motherboard you're using.
 
 Kyle
 

I would have been able to tell you had I been at home.  Sorry.  My
motherboard is the EpOX EP-9NDA3+
(http://www.epox.com/USA/product.asp?id=EP-9NDA3plus).
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[mythtv-users] myth .18 external channel problem

2005-05-09 Thread travis eddy
ok for a very long time i have been using a program a friend wrote for me. 
very basic accpets 3 numbers and then sends them to a custom channel changer 
i built on the paralle port. now with this new myth, it seems to have a fit 
and continue to change channels just randomly sending numbers. dose any one 
have any idea what was changed in mythtv's external chaning software i 
don't want to have to back date.
if need be i can send the program and its code.


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[mythtv-users] Same channel in different sources, always record from lowest numbered channel?

2005-05-09 Thread Victor Perez
I have ESPN on channel 33 (Cable) and channel 140 (Dish Network). If I
set a recording from channel 140 It always activates another tuner
card on channel 33 instead, even if I am watching channel 140 in live
tv and hit record.

Any way to force Mythtv to record from channel 140 without removing
channel 33 from the lineup?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Kyle Rose
 I would have been able to tell you had I been at home.  Sorry.  My
 motherboard is the EpOX EP-9NDA3+
 (http://www.epox.com/USA/product.asp?id=EP-9NDA3plus).

Well, from looking at the specs, I can suggest the following:

Two S-ATA ports from nForce3 Ultra with up to 150MBps bandwidth
Two S-ATA ports from Marvell 88SR3020 SATA PHY

I recommend using the nForce3 SATA heads.  You're not using RAID, right?
 Make sure it's set up as non-RAID in the BIOS, and then try these
instructions that I found with Google:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2005/03/4/304143

OK. I did a bit of searching and found these:

about half way down. Use find to search the page for nforce3:

[url]http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html[/url]

Also about half way down, look at post by Augustus, he has a list in there:

[url]http://www.linuxhardware.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=19;t=32;st=20[/url]

Look under nForce3 Ultra Linux Support which is a bit under the first
two pics. It tells where the drivers are in the config:

[url]http://www.linuxhardware.org/features/04/10/19/1654258.shtml[/url]

That is a bit to read and may require a bit of stiching together but it
did help me to find this in the 2.6.11-gentoo-r4 kernel config screen:

[CODE]   [*] Serial ATA (SATA) support  
AHCI SATA support (NEW)  
ServerWorks Frodo / Apple K2 SATA support  
  * Intel PIIX/ICH SATA support  
NVIDIA SATA support (NEW)  
Promise PATA 2027x support (NEW)  
Promise PATA 2027x support (NEW)  
Promise SATA TX2/TX4 support  
Pacific Digital SATA QStor support (NEW)  
  Promise SATA SX4 support  
Silicon Image SATA support  
  SiS 964/180 SATA support  
ULi Electronics SATA support (NEW)  
VIA SATA support  
VITESSE VSC-7174 SATA support  [/CODE]

It looks like it should work if whatever you install detects it
properly. If you need to use this, this is the path to the drivers:
Device Drivers  SCSI device support  SCSI low-level drivers, just in
case you need to know that. Also make sure you have your BIOS set up
properly before you start the install. From what I have read, that is
critical.

Now go install something and let us know how well, ;) , it goes.

Hope all that helps. I'm on a slow dial-up and it takes a while to get
all that. :( :( 


Cheers,
Kyle
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[mythtv-users] Deleting old recordings when storage fills up

2005-05-09 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I imagine that there is a setting for this somewhere. My wife
wanted a movie recorded that didn't make it due to the allocated disk
space being used up. I thought that Myth was just going to delete
older recordings by default to make room but it didn't.

   Where would I configure this sort of operation? I looked in
mythtv-setup but I didn't see it. Is it there or elsewhere?

Thanks,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/9/05, Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would have been able to tell you had I been at home.  Sorry.  My
  motherboard is the EpOX EP-9NDA3+
  (http://www.epox.com/USA/product.asp?id=EP-9NDA3plus).
 
 Well, from looking at the specs, I can suggest the following:
 
 Two S-ATA ports from nForce3 Ultra with up to 150MBps bandwidth
 Two S-ATA ports from Marvell 88SR3020 SATA PHY
 
 I recommend using the nForce3 SATA heads.  You're not using RAID, right?
 Make sure it's set up as non-RAID in the BIOS, and then try these
 instructions that I found with Google:
 
 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2005/03/4/304143
 
 OK. I did a bit of searching and found these:
 
 about half way down. Use find to search the page for nforce3:
 
 [url]http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html[/url]
 
 Also about half way down, look at post by Augustus, he has a list in there:
 
 [url]http://www.linuxhardware.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=19;t=32;st=20[/url]
 
 Look under nForce3 Ultra Linux Support which is a bit under the first
 two pics. It tells where the drivers are in the config:
 
 [url]http://www.linuxhardware.org/features/04/10/19/1654258.shtml[/url]
 
 That is a bit to read and may require a bit of stiching together but it
 did help me to find this in the 2.6.11-gentoo-r4 kernel config screen:
 
 [CODE]   [*] Serial ATA (SATA) support  
 AHCI SATA support (NEW)  
 ServerWorks Frodo / Apple K2 SATA support  
   * Intel PIIX/ICH SATA support  
 NVIDIA SATA support (NEW)  
 Promise PATA 2027x support (NEW)  
 Promise PATA 2027x support (NEW)  
 Promise SATA TX2/TX4 support  
 Pacific Digital SATA QStor support (NEW)  
   Promise SATA SX4 support  
 Silicon Image SATA support  
   SiS 964/180 SATA support  
 ULi Electronics SATA support (NEW)  
 VIA SATA support  
 VITESSE VSC-7174 SATA support  [/CODE]
 
 It looks like it should work if whatever you install detects it
 properly. If you need to use this, this is the path to the drivers:
 Device Drivers  SCSI device support  SCSI low-level drivers, just in
 case you need to know that. Also make sure you have your BIOS set up
 properly before you start the install. From what I have read, that is
 critical.
 
 Now go install something and let us know how well, ;) , it goes.
 
 Hope all that helps. I'm on a slow dial-up and it takes a while to get
 all that. :( :( 
 
 Cheers,
 Kyle
 

I'm not using RAID.  I do have 3 250GB SATA drives in there, so I
can't just use the nVidia ports.  Come to think of it, it does seem to
freeze (again, only with 2.6.10 and above) when it's loading the third
drive, so maybe it'd make sense that those drivers are the issue.  So,
in your post I see that Intel PIIX/ICH SATA support was selected -
is that what you think will provide support for those other two drive
ports?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Bus Error? Hard drive failing?

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/9/05, James Pifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a strange thing happen on my mythbackend. It's running FC3 (kernel
 2.6.10-1.737_FC3) with 2 Maxtor 160gig drives in a logical volume.
 Sometime early Saturday morning, between 3 and 4 AM, the machine seemed
 to die. I already had a terminal session open on my laptop and if I
 tried to do anything I kept getting errors, like bus error. Nothing more
 specific than that.
 
 I was stuck so I powered off and back on and all I got was GRUB in the
 top left corner and it would go no farther.
 
 So I started playing a little. I booted from linux rescue CD and ran
 run_qtparted. It could see both hard drives, but it said /dev/hda was
 empty. It could see ext2 on /dev/hdb.
 
 Then I booted from FC3 disc one because I wanted to see if the install
 would see the Linux installation. All it seemed to see was /dev/hdb.
 
 Next I booted from Maxtor's drive utility floppy to check out the
 drives. I ran the quick test and long test on both drives and they both
 passed all the tests.
 
 Then I rebooted the machine again, and now FC3 boots up! I had to go
 through fsck a couple times, but now it's working. It's made three
 recordings since then. The only problem I've had is when I tried
 watching a recording from a remote frontend I got this error on the
 backend a few minutes into it:
 WriteBlock(): Aborting WriteBlock, write to socket failed!
 
 This machine has been very stable for a pretty long time. I did just add
 a Via VT6122 gigabit NIC last week. Up to this point it caused no issues
 in the machine, but the same NIC did seem to cause some instability in
 another FC3 machine I have. I don't know if it has anything to do with
 it or not.
 
 Could this be the hard drive failing even though drive diagnostics says
 it's fine?
 Anything else possibly happening?
 
 I googled for bus error but it seems to be a non-specific error, or at
 least I got results for all kinds of things causing bus error.
 
 Any wisdom is appreciate!

No wisdom but a couple of suggestions:

i) have you got smartd running? If so, take a look at the SMART status
of the 2 drives and see if any errors have been recorded,
ii) check to see if the NIC is sharing IRQs with the drive controller
etc. Maybe change slot to try and get the NIC its own IRQ if it's
currently sharing, and
iii) remove/swap out the GBit NIC and see if the system's stability returns.

Nick
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RE: [mythtv-users] myth .18 external channel problem

2005-05-09 Thread Khanh Tran
Are you using the external channel change script variable, set up from
the backend?  Most people use change-channel-lirc.sh from contrib.
MythTV sends that script the digits, which in turn makes the external
channel change.  In the case of that script, it's a lirc command.

-Khanh 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of travis eddy
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:47 AM
 To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
 Subject: [mythtv-users] myth .18 external channel problem
 
 ok for a very long time i have been using a program a friend 
 wrote for me. 
 very basic accpets 3 numbers and then sends them to a custom 
 channel changer 
 i built on the paralle port. now with this new myth, it seems 
 to have a fit 
 and continue to change channels just randomly sending 
 numbers. dose any one 
 have any idea what was changed in mythtv's external chaning 
 software i 
 don't want to have to back date.
 if need be i can send the program and its code.
 
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Same channel in different sources, always record from lowest numbered channel?

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/9/05, Victor Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have ESPN on channel 33 (Cable) and channel 140 (Dish Network). If I
 set a recording from channel 140 It always activates another tuner
 card on channel 33 instead, even if I am watching channel 140 in live
 tv and hit record.
 
 Any way to force Mythtv to record from channel 140 without removing
 channel 33 from the lineup?

You can set priority for your capture cards and channels, which should
help here. Also (at least in 0.16) there is an option to reduce
conflicts between recordings and live tv which could be throwing up
the problems you are having, especially if you are watching on the
channel/tuner you are wanting to record from. It is likely to try and
record the channel on another capture card if you ware watching on a
particular tuner and have this option enabled.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] Deleting old recordings when storage fills up

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/9/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
I imagine that there is a setting for this somewhere. My wife
 wanted a movie recorded that didn't make it due to the allocated disk
 space being used up. I thought that Myth was just going to delete
 older recordings by default to make room but it didn't.
 
Where would I configure this sort of operation? I looked in
 mythtv-setup but I didn't see it. Is it there or elsewhere?

When you setup recordings, you can specify whether they can be 'for
the chop' in the future if disk space is running out, usually the
earliest recording is deleted first.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Kyle Rose
 So,
 in your post I see that Intel PIIX/ICH SATA support was selected -
 is that what you think will provide support for those other two drive
 ports?

I'm sorry; I should have proofread before cut-and-paste.  No, you want
NVIDIA support for the first chip.

For the Marvell chip, things appear to be more complex, and more
experimental.  This page has some information about how to install the
Marvell SATA driver:

http://www.keffective.com/mvsata/

It's possible you were using a version of 2.6.9 that had mvsata support
included, but when you upgraded to 2.6.1x, that support wasn't there
because you were now using a vanilla kernel.

Cheers,
Kyle
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Making best use of spare PCs

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/9/05, Jonathan Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/9/05, Daniel Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Why are you transcoding these files when they're MPEG2 to start with?
   Here's a quick test - transfer one of your DVB recordings to a Windows
   machine, rename it to .mpg, and try to play it. If you've got MPEG2
   codecs installed, you should see crystal clear video.
 
  Yes, I'd thought that, but a straight drag'n'drop to an XP box, rename and
  play, and WMP doesn't recognise it. Most likely my recording profile is to
  blame - are there any settings specific to making a DVD-compatible file
  that I maybe am misunderstanding, do you think?

Could be if the TS is being recorded instead of the PS? I just tried
to play American Grafiti recorded the other day, which played fine
(DVB recorded from ITV1, UK)  This is using myth 0.16, standard DVB
card options.

 Where did you get the MPEG2 codec?   IIRC, I was only able to watch my
 shows after installing WinDVD (which has the MPEG2 codec) on y laptop.
  They do not come by default with Windows, and the fact that WMP
 doesn't recognize it hints at not having the proper codec installed.
 If you have a Hauppage PVR-x50, you may be able to use the CD to
 install the codec.

The decoder would have come from DVD software (Cyberlink PowerDVD)
which was installed when I built the machine (sorry for not making
that more obvious).

I also get erratic behaviour from WMP playing mpeg2 files/streams.
Since I stopped using WMP 6 I've used Media Player Classic (on
sourceforge I think) to play all my media files (except where WMP is
required). It seems to have far fewer problems playing files, has more
configuration options (such as aspect, stretching) and a far less
cluttered interface than WMP now, and starts up instantly. May also be
worth looking into BS Player and/or Zoom Player.

Nick
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[mythtv-users] Re: [ATrpms-users] Kernel problem when accessing Watch Recordings page in MythTV

2005-05-09 Thread Marcel Janssen
On Monday 09 May 2005 16:02, Phill Edwards wrote:
 Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this as I can't use MythTV
 while this problem persists?

Have you tried switching off XV controls ?
What happens if you play in a window instead of full screen (perhaps mythtv is 
using XVidModeExtension when going full screen) ?

Regards,
Marcel

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Re: [mythtv-users] Best O/S

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/9/05, Colin Smillie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/9/05, Anil Gupte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi:
 
  I am a newbie at MythTV.  I want to create a stable MythTV system that I can
  actually use and forget like an appliance.  What is the best Linux version I
  should use?  By that I mean the most stable, and having the most drivers.  I
  have used Debian and Slackware in the past, although I am far from an 
  expert.
 
 I think Fedora is probably one of the easist to get going.  The
 disadvantage is that is sort like being on a threadmill because its
 continuing being updated and obsoleted.
 
 Jarod has a great guide on Fedora setup here:
 
 http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
 
 And its well supported by Axel's ATRPMs.net

I'd second that the combination of Jarod's Fedora guides and using
apt-get with atrpms.net means you can get a Fedora-based Myth system
up and running quickly. If Fedora bring out a new kernel release, it
is usually only a few days until Axel at atrpms.net has got suitable
driver packages released, which makes upgrading fairly painless.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV and EM8300

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/9/05, Greg Estabrooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  firmware uploads and I get a blank screen on the S-Video connection to
  my TV. Any ideas? I seem to get output on the VGA connection, but
  despite telling MythTV to use Hardware Accelerate out, it seems to
  ignore it completely and does plain old software out. There seems to be
  nothing being fired out from mythfrontend either (I log all the output
  just in case)
 
  Myth doesn't support the use of the Em8300 based cards, so no matter what
 you enable it would not be used.

It may be possible to use the Hollywood+ card as a regular X display
(without acceleration) for a myth system (as is currently the case
with the PVR350). It is highly likely though you may get accelerated
mpeg2 playback in xine (one of the output options). I have one of
these lying around so may have a go and see where I get to.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythvideo no controls while playing

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/7/05, Scott Arthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just installed 0.17 and when I play a video in Mythvideo, mplayer
 doesn't respond to any keys.
 
 If I run mplayer directly through .xinitrc it works fine with normal
 mplayer keys, but when it's called through mythvideo, there's no
 response from any keys??

If you're using KDE as your desktop environment, you may want to check
your window focus behvaiour. Jarod's tips'n'tricks page here -
http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php - may help you out. Scroll down to
'MythVideo focus issue'

If you can Alt-TAB between running windows whilst mplayer is running,
place focus on the mplayer window - if you can get normal keypress
responses, it's definitely a focus issue.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV and EM8300

2005-05-09 Thread Marcel Janssen
On Monday 09 May 2005 19:31, Nick wrote:
 It may be possible to use the Hollywood+ card as a regular X display
 (without acceleration) for a myth system (as is currently the case
 with the PVR350).

I don't think that is supported on the dxr3/H+ card. Framebuffer was never 
implemented for this card as far as I know. It's just an mpeg decoder card.

 It is highly likely though you may get accelerated 
 mpeg2 playback in xine (one of the output options). I have one of
 these lying around so may have a go and see where I get to.

It is even possible to play other vidoe formats through the card using xine 
(mplayer also). These video's will be reencoded on the fly to mpeg1 and than 
send to the mpeg decoder on the card.
It is possible to get a menu kind of system also on this card using mms
http://mms.sunsite.dk/

regards,
Marcel
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Re: [mythtv-users] Have PVR350 Output working - final few questions...

2005-05-09 Thread Nick
On 5/9/05, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Live TV quality is incredible, but there are a few things to tweak.

The 350 LiveTV quality is indistinguishable from my input source!

 
 The picture looks like it is a bit too large for the screen
 (overscanned) to the point where I cannot see the checkboxes on the
 setup screens. Do I try to underscan it the same way as with NVidia
 drivers, or how do I do this?

You cannot alter the overscan of the actual video output ( - yet, this
may change in newer driver releases). However you can alter the
positioning (X,Y, scaling) of the on-screen display to make that fit
in the viewable portion of the screen.
 
 I've read that to get the live TV audio to work the same as other parts
 of Myth (Myth Video and Recorded shows), you should loop the PVR350
 audio output into the Line in on the sound card. Where do you get the
 350's audio out? I see an audio input on the 350. Or do you take the
 stereo connectors and combine into a mini-stereo plug?

The 350 card comes with the output splitter cable, giving 2 female
phono audio outs, 1 s-video and 1 composite video out. You can use a
Y-cable (2xmale phono to 1xmale 3.5mm audio plug) to route the audio
back into your line-in on your soundcard. The Line-in on the actual
backplace of the card is for *capturing* the audio in the first place
when using the s-video/composite input.

This setup works for all apps using the 350's output - live and
recorded TV, and xine playback if using the 350 as an output. Just
ensure you are using the correct mixer settings to allow the live tv
buffer audio to be heard, and not the 'live' input audio as it comes
into the 350's encoder.

 And I just noticed the quality of recorded shows isn't very good. Looks
 splotchy and overcompressed. It did not look that way when I was using
 the Monitor output. Is there something left to tweak with the frame
 buffer? I guess with the live TV looking so good, the recorded programs
 are a bit of a letdown.

Maybe your recording profile is using too low a bitrate for recording
on the 350 (a setting of 6000/8000 will give great results using
DVD-Special-2 profile). Also ensure that you are using the 350 output
(in frontend setup) and not using software decoding.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV and EM8300

2005-05-09 Thread Greg Estabrooks
  you enable it would not be used.
 
 It may be possible to use the Hollywood+ card as a regular X display

 As far as I know there are no X drivers for displaying X on the TV out of this 
card (VGA pass through is not the same as outputting to the TV) except for some 
experimental stuff I wrote a while back which never got finished.

 (without acceleration) for a myth system (as is currently the case
 with the PVR350). It is highly likely though you may get accelerated

 You could certainly get Xine or Mplayer to use the EM8300 based cards for 
display. At one point I had a modified myth running that would use the em8300 
for playback only (not menus or X) on an old p166 I was using as a diskless
frontend. I started working on displaying X on it when I got an MediaMVP which
I now use to replace that frontend.


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV and EM8300

2005-05-09 Thread Greg Estabrooks
 I don't think that is supported on the dxr3/H+ card. Framebuffer was never 
 implemented for this card as far as I know. It's just an mpeg decoder card.

 Unfortunately there is no easy way to do this in an efficient manner that 
anyone has found so far. And Sigma Designs is not very open to giving out 
information on the card.

 I keep meaning to take a stab at finishing what I was working on but time is
not something I have in great abundance for projects like this.

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[mythtv-users] Working: FC3, Hauppauge WinTV 401, ALSA

2005-05-09 Thread karsten
I finally am looking at a working setup.
My hardware setup is nothing special and it is insufficient for my 
intended use, but it is sufficient to prove that this works.
I have a 1.1GHz AMD Athlon on a mobo with VIA sound (Fry's USD69 - he he).
Hauppauge WinTV 401 (includes sound digitizer).

My goal was to install MythTV using ALSA (because OSS is phasing out - 
depreciated) and using the bt sound module. Not the btaudio - that 
belongs to the depreciated OSS, but the snd_bt87x module of ALSA.
It was also a partial goal not to install any desktop if possible.

I succeded in all goals, but the sound is still not acceptable. This is 
caused either by MythTVs inability to handle ALSA or my inability to 
tweek ALSA to fit MythTV. Given that the OSS is depreciated - the first 
cause is the primary. So I am waiting for MythTV to correctly support ALSA.
The screen geometry is also not acceptable yet. I need to figure out how 
to correctly configure Xorg.

But otherwise I am running.
If you want to see the details, then I have set a webpage with accurate 
descriptions of how to set up MythTV using this combination of hardware 
in about an hour.

Karsten
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Re: [mythtv-users] Best O/S

2005-05-09 Thread Mark H
Go with knoppmyth.  There is nothing to
compile/recompile.  You just put a CD into the
computer  you want to install it on and let it do the
rest.  It will not install anything that myth doesn't
need, thus saving alot of space and memory.
www.mysettopbox.tv   


--- Anil Gupte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I am a newbie at MythTV.  I want to create a stable
 MythTV system that I can 
 actually use and forget like an appliance.  What is
 the best Linux version I 
 should use?  By that I mean the most stable, and
 having the most drivers.  I 
 have used Debian and Slackware in the past, although
 I am far from an expert.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thax,
 Anil Gupte
  
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Current state of a HushPC frontend?

2005-05-09 Thread Justin Mason
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 Thanks James.  I hadn't seen that link before, and all information is
 usefull.  I'm looking to take the PVR-350 out of my EPIA M1
 combined front/backend, leaving the EPIA as a front end only, and put
 the 350 into a new dedicated backend along with a NOVA-T DVB card.
 
 I'm hoping that the Unichrome drivers will be at least as good as the
 PVR350 output for mythTV, and a bit better than the 350 for mythVideo
 (because more applications support XvMC output than support the 350's
 hardware decoder).
 
 Anyone able to comment on PVR-350 vs Unichrome, for playback quality?

Hmm -- I tried switching to Unichrome XvMC output instead of the PVR-350
tv-out, and quality was noticeably worse, so I switched back.  This was on
an ME6000, however, not M10k. I used the KnoppMyth R5A12 precompiled
binaries.

Specifically:

- - enabling overscan resulted in several vertical blank lines on the NTSC
  tv out, as described here [1]  (looks like it's now fixed in CVS)
- - also noticeably less sharp output, with overscan on or off
- - higher CPU usage, so hotter CPU.  I'm trading off CPU load
  for fan speed, so this was also a negative for me.

[1]: 
http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28threadid=65651enterthread=y

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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Jonathan Watmough
Google for 'gentoo linux-headers' or similar.

I think you still may have the 2.4 kernel headers installed rather than the 2.6 headers.

In this case, the drivers will build, and then fail when they see a different kernel, with different symbols etc.

I had something similar on my machine.

Jonathan

On 5/8/05, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:make  make installHowever, modprobe cx88-dvb I get:WARNING: Error inserting or51132(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol inmodule, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol inmodule, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)FATAL: Error inserting cx8800(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol inmodule, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)WARNING: Error inserting or51132
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown symbol inmodule, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)WARNING: Error inserting cx8802(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown symbol inmodule, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb
(/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88-dvb.ko): Unknown symbol inmodule, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)FATAL: Error running install command for cx88_dvbAnd some of what dmesg reports is:or51132: Unknown symbol release_firmware
or51132: Unknown symbol request_firmwarecx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_readcx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analogcx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_resetcx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_wakeupCan anyone help?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Current state of a HushPC frontend?

2005-05-09 Thread Stutty
I'm currently using a Hush PC (the smaller one - not extended) with
EPIA MII 12K, and a PVR 350, and have no issues with overheating.

I'm using the EPIA's TV-Out, which have to say is not a clear as that
of the PVR350, but then I'm not using the NoScale patches as I'm only
using the released Unichrome drivers, not from CVS.

If I was going to start again, I'd have front-end only in the Hush PC,
and a dedicated backend elsewhere, one tuner card and one HDD seems
really limiting now!

Paul
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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/9/05, Jonathan Watmough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Google for 'gentoo linux-headers' or similar.
 
 I think you still may have the 2.4 kernel headers installed rather than the
 2.6 headers.
 
 In this case, the drivers will build, and then fail when they see a
 different kernel, with different symbols etc.
 
 I had something similar on my machine.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 
 On 5/8/05, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  2.6.9-r14 on Gentoo.
  
  I've installed the card built the drivers and installed using:
  
  make  make install
  
  However, modprobe cx88-dvb I get:
  WARNING: Error inserting or51132
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown
 symbol in 
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx8802 
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  FATAL: Error inserting cx8800
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8800.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting or51132 
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/or51132.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx88xx
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88xx.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  WARNING: Error inserting cx8802
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx8802.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb 
  (/lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r14/v4l2/cx88-dvb.ko): Unknown
 symbol in
  module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
  FATAL: Error running install command for cx88_dvb
  
  And some of what dmesg reports is:
  
  or51132: Unknown symbol release_firmware 
  or51132: Unknown symbol request_firmware
  cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read
  cx88xx: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog
  cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_reset
  cx8802: Unknown symbol cx88_wakeup
  
  Can anyone help? 
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Is there an easy way to tell which headers I've got?  I'd be surprised
if I had 2.4 as this box has never been a 2.4 box (just built it in
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Re: [mythtv-users] Deleting old recordings when storage fills up

2005-05-09 Thread Mark Knecht
Nick,
   Thanks. So I need to do this for every recording? The default is to
always save unless I specifically set it up to allow deletion?

   No problem. Most of the stuff we do is weekly and it's not too hard
to set that up.

Cheers,
Mark

On 5/9/05, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/9/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 I imagine that there is a setting for this somewhere. My wife
  wanted a movie recorded that didn't make it due to the allocated disk
  space being used up. I thought that Myth was just going to delete
  older recordings by default to make room but it didn't.
 
 Where would I configure this sort of operation? I looked in
  mythtv-setup but I didn't see it. Is it there or elsewhere?
 
 When you setup recordings, you can specify whether they can be 'for
 the chop' in the future if disk space is running out, usually the
 earliest recording is deleted first.
 
 Nick

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Re: [mythtv-users] Deleting old recordings when storage fills up

2005-05-09 Thread Robert Tsai
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 11:52:50AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Thanks. So I need to do this for every recording? The default is to
 always save unless I specifically set it up to allow deletion?

You *may* do this on a per-recording-schedule basis.

However, there is an option to set the default auto-expire value to
be on or off.

IIRC, it is somewhere in mythtv-setup; otherwise it is somewhere in
the frontend setup screens.

--Rob


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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread David George
On 5/9/2005 3:19 PM, Mudit Wahal wrote:
I'm building a backend where I'm going to put one HD3000 card. My
frontend is still up in the air (several variables). In the meantime,
I still want to connect a basic frontend with tv-out (svideo) to
analog TV.
Will I be able to play the programs recorded in HD in the backend on
an analog TV (connected via a frontend-svideo) ?
 

Yes, no problem.  One of my frontends has an MX-4000 card using S-Video 
out.  You won't get HD res, but you can display HD programs on an analog TV.

Any gotachs/magic incantations/etc I need to do at the backend so the
transition from the HD recorded(or live) plays fine on analong
frontend ?
 

Nope, as long as your S-Video output is configured to display SD it 
should scale the HD to whatever your output supports.

Thanks in Advance!
 

Your welcome.
--
David
HDTV frontend I'm working on (pictures, mythmon source)
 http://mythhd.info
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Re: [mythtv-users] Best O/S

2005-05-09 Thread Andrew Close
On 5/9/05, Mark H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Go with knoppmyth.  There is nothing to
 compile/recompile.  You just put a CD into the
 computer  you want to install it on and let it do the
 rest.  It will not install anything that myth doesn't
 need, thus saving alot of space and memory.
 www.mysettopbox.tv

i'll second this.  KnoppMyth is an excellent distro for someone
starting out with Myth.  you should feel fairly at home with this
distro since you've used Debian; KnoppMyth is based on Knoppix, which
is based on Debian.
easy install, great support and resources (mysettopbox.com).
if you're using fairly standard hardware it's a no muss, no fuss
 solution. ;)

 
 
 --- Anil Gupte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi:
 
  I am a newbie at MythTV.  I want to create a stable
  MythTV system that I can
  actually use and forget like an appliance.  What is
  the best Linux version I
  should use?  By that I mean the most stable, and
  having the most drivers.  I
  have used Debian and Slackware in the past, although
  I am far from an expert.
 
  Any suggestions?
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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread Trey Boudreau
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:24:38PM -0400, David George wrote:
 
 On 5/9/2005 3:19 PM, Mudit Wahal wrote:
 
 I'm building a backend where I'm going to put one HD3000 card. My
 frontend is still up in the air (several variables). In the meantime,
 I still want to connect a basic frontend with tv-out (svideo) to
 analog TV.
 
 Will I be able to play the programs recorded in HD in the backend on
 an analog TV (connected via a frontend-svideo) ?
  
 
 Yes, no problem.  One of my frontends has an MX-4000 card using S-Video 
 out.  You won't get HD res, but you can display HD programs on an analog TV.
 
Out of curiosity, do you have performance issues down-scaling 1080i or
720p content?

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RE: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 - Anyone installed and use this?

2005-05-09 Thread jack
 
 Is there an easy way to tell which headers I've got?  I'd be surprised
 if I had 2.4 as this box has never been a 2.4 box (just built it in
 January).
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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread Joshua M. Thompson
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 12:19 -0700, Mudit Wahal wrote:
 I'm building a backend where I'm going to put one HD3000 card. My
 frontend is still up in the air (several variables). In the meantime,
 I still want to connect a basic frontend with tv-out (svideo) to
 analog TV.
 
 Will I be able to play the programs recorded in HD in the backend on
 an analog TV (connected via a frontend-svideo) ?
 
 Any gotachs/magic incantations/etc I need to do at the backend so the
 transition from the HD recorded(or live) plays fine on analong
 frontend ?

I have that exact setup at my house. My main frontend downstairs is a P4
3.06 that is also the master backend, and has a ivtv card connected to
my Dish receiver for watching satellite channels. It is connected with
svideo+spdif to my AV receiver and TV. Upstairs I have another
front/backend combo with the pcHDTV in it that records OTA HDTV using my
attic antenna (though sadly it's not fast enough to watch HD). Even on
my 10 year old trinitron TV the HDTV recordings are still very
noticeably better than anything I ever got even directly off my sat
receiver, let alone through the capture card.

I often sit in my home office and watch the HDTV recordings on my Linux
workstation, because once you've watched real HD it's hard to go back.
Hell even Family Guy looks better in HD! :)

The only annoyance I've found so far is that some stations like to
transmit 4:3 programs in a 16:9 signal with black bars and I'll have to
manually adjust the aspect ratio on those to make it fill the screen. On
the bright side, my local Fox station does this sometimes but keeps the
Fox network logo off in the right hand side bar, so it doesn't obscure
the video at all. :)

-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Dual-CPU/Core MythTV

2005-05-09 Thread Galen
Sounds like a neat setup... anybody else have thoughts/experiences?
-Galen
On May 7, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Devan Lippman wrote:
I run dual CPUs on my backend and I think if you've got the cash its
an awesome way to do things.  I have two P3 Tualatin 1.3GHz CPUs and
capture HDTV off my STB using firewire with no problem while running
transcoding and commercial flagging and streaming to the frontend.  I
like how it makes it so a really busy thread can get its own CPU and
the other threads are happy running on the other CPU.
Devan
On 5/7/05, Galen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Been checking on the hardware... please correct me if I'm wrong here!
The potentially cost-viable CPU options with a few sample prices
attached:
1) AMD Athlon MP (2800 2.13 GHz = USD ~197, can't find anything  
faster)
2) AMD Opteron (242 1.6 GHz = USD ~158, 244 1.8 GHz = USD ~203)
3) Intel Xenon (2.8 GHz = USD ~220, 2.66 GHz = USD ~199)
(did I miss any cost-viable options?)

For each of these CPUs, what would the comfortable minimum be for
HDTV playback only? (I will have an GeForce card, but I believe that
I will lose XvMC acceleration if I want to do any fancy deinerlacing
tricks. Is this correct?) I am trying to assess the price difference
and practicality of a dual-CPU setup. Also, what anybody know sort of
heat production are we talking about per-CPU here?
Does MythTV compile properly for 64-bit and actually offer any
practical performance gains? (Or am I going to completely regret that
I even *thought* of trying 64-bit code... I am thinking that may be a
yes for the time being...)
-Galen
On May 7, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Galen wrote:

I'm one of those lurkers... I'm not yet in possession of my own
MythTV box, but I'm rather familiar with *nix and am working on
plans (and finances) for an awesome HDTV MythTV box. When I get it
done, it will be killer. (I am, however, somewhat of a newbie when
it comes to x86 hardware. I've lived in RISC land too long...)
I've been looking into the specifications for a MythTV system, and
it occurred to me, it seems like an awesome application for a dual-
CPU/core setup. HDTV decoding is pretty high-end in terms of system
demands, so purchasing much more CPU than required for decent HDTV
playback (~A64 3200, P4 3 GHz) gets really expensive, really fast,
and it's simply impossible to purchase twice the CPU required for
HDTV playback w/decent de-interlacing and various other functions.
More CPU means you can do more post-processing, commercial
flagging, maybe even background transcoding (with the proper nice
values, of course).
It seems like a dual-CPU system would be an excellent solution to
this problem. Size the CPUs such that one CPU is able to
comfortably handle the single largest realtime function (HDTV
decoding), and then the other CPU is free so you can do some
*awesome* de-interlacing, commercial flagging, etc without ever
impacting the HDTV playback. The same effect would happen with dual
core CPUs, but they are only getting started. Dual CPUs are here,
today. I've done enough work with dual-CPU systems to realize that
while they don't offer double the performance for traditional
mono-threaded applications, for some multi-threaded applications
that rely on realtime response (i.e. video playback), they're
better than a CPU that's twice as fast.
Does this make sense? I'm curious if anybody has tried this, and
with what CPU/motherboard? Any thoughts as to some optimal hardware
configurations (CPU speed/type/mobo)? What would my practical
options for de-interlacing be with a setup like this?
-Galen
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[mythtv-users] Problems with upgrading FC1 -- FC3, need help manually restoring Myth to a different version (.16 -- .18)

2005-05-09 Thread Brad Kerr
I am having many issues upgrading from FC1 to FC3 and thought it might
be best to just do a fresh install.  I am currently (use to be)
running MythTv .16 on FC1 and have a backup of the database,
configuration, and video files.

Current State of Machine:
I have gotten the system upgraded to FC3 using the discs and finally
got X to display.  Now there are many dependency problems in loading
kickstart.  My next thought was to just get Myth upgraded so the
database would be .18 compliant and then do a fresh install of FC3.  I
just don't have enough linux experience to work through the dependency
issues with either of these approaches.

If I do a fresh install of FC3 and Myth (.18), is there a way to
restore my .16 database?  Or do you have a better suggestion on how to
get me to FC3/.18?

Thank you for your help in advance.

-Brad
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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread David George
On 5/9/2005 3:40 PM, Trey Boudreau wrote:
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:24:38PM -0400, David George wrote:
 

On 5/9/2005 3:19 PM, Mudit Wahal wrote:
   

Will I be able to play the programs recorded in HD in the backend on
an analog TV (connected via a frontend-svideo) ?
 

Yes, no problem.  One of my frontends has an MX-4000 card using S-Video 
out.  You won't get HD res, but you can display HD programs on an analog TV.
   

Out of curiosity, do you have performance issues down-scaling 1080i or
720p content?
 


Nope, no performance issues.  Of course this particular frontend is a P4 
2.8 w/1Meg cache so I probably wouldn't notice performance problems 
anyway.  It isn't hyperthreaded, but I had no problems displaying 1080i 
or 720p (actually scaling 720p to 540p as my TV doesn't support 720p) 
back when I was using it with a 9A60 to convert VGA to component video.

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HDTV frontend I'm working on (pictures, mythmon source)
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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread Mario Limonciello
My wonder is this downscaling of the HD, can a lower power machine
play these HD recordings after the downscaling?  So i guess the better
question is - which takes more power

Downscaling to 800x600 or 1024x768
or 
Outputing at 720p or 1080i

On 5/9/05, Joshua M. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 12:19 -0700, Mudit Wahal wrote:
  I'm building a backend where I'm going to put one HD3000 card. My
  frontend is still up in the air (several variables). In the meantime,
  I still want to connect a basic frontend with tv-out (svideo) to
  analog TV.
 
  Will I be able to play the programs recorded in HD in the backend on
  an analog TV (connected via a frontend-svideo) ?
 
  Any gotachs/magic incantations/etc I need to do at the backend so the
  transition from the HD recorded(or live) plays fine on analong
  frontend ?
 
 I have that exact setup at my house. My main frontend downstairs is a P4
 3.06 that is also the master backend, and has a ivtv card connected to
 my Dish receiver for watching satellite channels. It is connected with
 svideo+spdif to my AV receiver and TV. Upstairs I have another
 front/backend combo with the pcHDTV in it that records OTA HDTV using my
 attic antenna (though sadly it's not fast enough to watch HD). Even on
 my 10 year old trinitron TV the HDTV recordings are still very
 noticeably better than anything I ever got even directly off my sat
 receiver, let alone through the capture card.
 
 I often sit in my home office and watch the HDTV recordings on my Linux
 workstation, because once you've watched real HD it's hard to go back.
 Hell even Family Guy looks better in HD! :)
 
 The only annoyance I've found so far is that some stations like to
 transmit 4:3 programs in a 16:9 signal with black bars and I'll have to
 manually adjust the aspect ratio on those to make it fill the screen. On
 the bright side, my local Fox station does this sometimes but keeps the
 Fox network logo off in the right hand side bar, so it doesn't obscure
 the video at all. :)
 
 --
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[mythtv-users] Extract audio as Wav=

2005-05-09 Thread j2








If I want to extract the
audio from a recorded show to a wav (to be chopped

up and then mp3'd). WHats
the best way to do so?








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[mythtv-users] Working. FC3 Hauppauge WinTV 401 and ALSA

2005-05-09 Thread Karsten Jeppesen
Something went wrong when I sent this one so I am trying again.
I finally am looking at a working setup.
My hardware setup is nothing special and it is insufficient for my 
intended use, but it is sufficient to prove that this works.
I have a 1.1GHz AMD Athlon on a mobo with VIA sound (Fry's USD69 - he he).
Hauppauge WinTV 401 (includes sound digitizer).

My goal was to install MythTV using ALSA (because OSS is phasing out - 
depreciated) and using the bt sound module. Not the btaudio - that 
belongs to the depreciated OSS, but the snd_bt87x module of ALSA.
It was also a partial goal not to install any desktop if possible.

I succeded in all goals, but the sound is still not acceptable. This is 
caused either by MythTVs inability to handle ALSA or my inability to 
tweek ALSA to fit MythTV. Given that the OSS is depreciated - the first 
cause is the primary. So I am waiting for MythTV to correctly support ALSA.
The screen geometry is also not acceptable yet. I need to figure out how 
to correctly configure Xorg.

But otherwise I am running.
If you want to see the details, then I have set a webpage with accurate 
descriptions of how to set up MythTV using this combination of hardware 
in about an hour.
http://jeppesens.com/mythtv.html

Karsten
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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread Joshua M. Thompson
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 16:03 -0400, Mario Limonciello wrote:
 My wonder is this downscaling of the HD, can a lower power machine
 play these HD recordings after the downscaling?  So i guess the better
 question is - which takes more power
 
 Downscaling to 800x600 or 1024x768
 or 
 Outputing at 720p or 1080i

The MPEG2 decoding is what eats up most of the CPU, and you still have
to decode it in order to rescale it, so you'd actually use more CPU
power watching it rescaled than watching it as its native resolution.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Extract audio as Wav=

2005-05-09 Thread Jeff Simpson
I believe NUVExport has an option for exporting to MP3...you could
convert back to wav, split it up, and re-encode to mp3

 - Jeff

On 5/9/05, j2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 
 If I want to extract the audio from a recorded show to a wav (to be chopped 
 
 up and then mp3'd). WHats the best way to do so? 
 
   
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Re: [mythtv-users] Using MythTV for viewing both TV recordings and video's in seperate directories?

2005-05-09 Thread Chad
 I recall going through this myself a while back.  I just checked my
 mythweb directory and I have a symlink named video_dir that points to
 myth's recordings directory and a different symlink named video_url
 that points to the mythvideo directory.  Then again, I'm running cvs
 from a few weeks ago, not the release version of 0.18.
 
 Brad
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Hmmm, definitely sounds like something I could have overlooked. 
Thanks!  I will give that a try.

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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread Mudit Wahal
So which machine is downscaling ? frontend or backend ?

My backend is going to be a sempron 3000+. Since I dont need much
horsepower in the backend, I guess a sempron 3000+ should be ok (as
per tomshardware.com mega cpu list, the sempron 3000+ is about 5-10%
slower than athlon xp 3000+ for audio/video encoding purposes).

My present frontend is going to be a sempron 2600+ box, with geforce
mx440 with svideo out. This is a temp solution. My permanent frontend
for the analog TV will be the media mvp (if I can get it to work). The
media mvp has builtin mpeg decoder with svideo out.

My main issue is if I watch HD recorded/live on analog TV, how much
horsepower do I need to downres (and where ? front or back ?)

Thanks

Mudit

On 5/9/05, Mario Limonciello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My wonder is this downscaling of the HD, can a lower power machine
 play these HD recordings after the downscaling?  So i guess the better
 question is - which takes more power
 
 Downscaling to 800x600 or 1024x768
 or
 Outputing at 720p or 1080i
 
 On 5/9/05, Joshua M. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 12:19 -0700, Mudit Wahal wrote:
   I'm building a backend where I'm going to put one HD3000 card. My
   frontend is still up in the air (several variables). In the meantime,
   I still want to connect a basic frontend with tv-out (svideo) to
   analog TV.
  
   Will I be able to play the programs recorded in HD in the backend on
   an analog TV (connected via a frontend-svideo) ?
  
   Any gotachs/magic incantations/etc I need to do at the backend so the
   transition from the HD recorded(or live) plays fine on analong
   frontend ?
 
  I have that exact setup at my house. My main frontend downstairs is a P4
  3.06 that is also the master backend, and has a ivtv card connected to
  my Dish receiver for watching satellite channels. It is connected with
  svideo+spdif to my AV receiver and TV. Upstairs I have another
  front/backend combo with the pcHDTV in it that records OTA HDTV using my
  attic antenna (though sadly it's not fast enough to watch HD). Even on
  my 10 year old trinitron TV the HDTV recordings are still very
  noticeably better than anything I ever got even directly off my sat
  receiver, let alone through the capture card.
 
  I often sit in my home office and watch the HDTV recordings on my Linux
  workstation, because once you've watched real HD it's hard to go back.
  Hell even Family Guy looks better in HD! :)
 
  The only annoyance I've found so far is that some stations like to
  transmit 4:3 programs in a 16:9 signal with black bars and I'll have to
  manually adjust the aspect ratio on those to make it fill the screen. On
  the bright side, my local Fox station does this sometimes but keeps the
  Fox network logo off in the right hand side bar, so it doesn't obscure
  the video at all. :)
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread Robert Tsai
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:56:07PM -0400, Joshua M. Thompson wrote:
 The only annoyance I've found so far is that some stations like to
 transmit 4:3 programs in a 16:9 signal with black bars and I'll have
 to manually adjust the aspect ratio on those to make it fill the
 screen. On the bright side, my local Fox station does this sometimes
 but keeps the Fox network logo off in the right hand side bar, so it
 doesn't obscure the video at all. :)

Aren't the Zoom 4:3 and Zoom 16:9 options meant to address this,
so that you don't have to twiddle with the manual adjust?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Extract audio as Wav=

2005-05-09 Thread greg
 I believe NUVExport has an option for exporting to MP3...you could
 convert back to wav, split it up, and re-encode to mp3

There's software out there that will let you cut the MP3's without a
decode/re-encode step.

http://home.hccnet.nl/p.luijer/ - I think that's the one I've used in the
past (it's been a long time, but I think that's it.)

I don't know if something similar exists for linux or not though.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Front End - Back End? Diffrence?

2005-05-09 Thread Bruce Markey
Mr AG!! wrote:
Forgive me for being naive, but what does the front end and back end do
in relation to each other? is it possible to have one main myth
installation, and then have other 'front ends' running in other rooms? 
Mythfrontend and mythbackend are processes that run on
machines and not the machines themselves. However, people may
refer to a machine where they run mythfrontend as a frontend.
--8---
The backend controls tuner cards and is used for recording.
It has no GUI and is needed on each machine that has one or
more TV cards but is not needed on any machine that does not
have a tuner.
There is exactly one master backend that runs the scheduler
and assigns recording tasks to other backends (if any) which
are called slave backends. Backend are normally running all
the time so they are ready to record and available to serve
any files they have recorded.
The frontend is the GUI that users use for playback. It can
run on a computer monitor or on a TV if the computer has a
graphics card that supports TV-out. A mythbackend may or may
not also run on the same machine depending on if the system
has a TV card. Any frontend can be stopped or started at any
time with no impact on the recording schedule.
There is no master or slave frontend but frontends are often
referred to as local or remote indicating whether or not they
are on the same machine that holds recorded files. Any frontend
can play files recorded by any of the backends.
--8---
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Re: [mythtv-users] record in HD, but watch in analog ?

2005-05-09 Thread Mudit Wahal
Joshua,

The 16:9 programs recorded in HD, how do you play them on analog TV
(4:3)  ? Do they play with black bars on top and bottom (just like
watching DVDs on a 4:3 TV) ?

Also, if I connect frontend to an HDTV (which has 16:9 aspect ratio ..
Panny DLP) using svideo, will I see the HD program in 16:9 (if its
recorded in native 16:9, say CSI, etc). Ofcourse, the quality will be
downres'd to svideo, but is the 16:9 aspect ratio still preserved ?

My main goal is to watch the HD programs in their native mode but
sacrifice the HD quality right now. Once I've figured out what I need
in the HD-frontend, I'll switch to HD output. But I still want to jump
on the HD bandwagon. (It'll be better than watching taped shows on a
vcr getting signals from a rooftop analog antenna ! the vcr is
connected to a panny DLP tv .. talk about waste of resources )

Thanks
Mudit

On 5/9/05, Robert Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:56:07PM -0400, Joshua M. Thompson wrote:
  The only annoyance I've found so far is that some stations like to
  transmit 4:3 programs in a 16:9 signal with black bars and I'll have
  to manually adjust the aspect ratio on those to make it fill the
  screen. On the bright side, my local Fox station does this sometimes
  but keeps the Fox network logo off in the right hand side bar, so it
  doesn't obscure the video at all. :)
 
 Aren't the Zoom 4:3 and Zoom 16:9 options meant to address this,
 so that you don't have to twiddle with the manual adjust?
 
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[mythtv-users] how much space does an HD recording take?

2005-05-09 Thread JY
I'm trying to get a good idea of how much disk space I need.  I want
around 100 hrs.  I tried to search but didn't come up with much exact
figures.  Something in the range of 6-10GB/hr?  is this right?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Extract audio as Wav=

2005-05-09 Thread Jeff Simpson
 There's software out there that will let you cut the MP3's without a
 decode/re-encode step.
 
 http://home.hccnet.nl/p.luijer/ - I think that's the one I've used in the
 past (it's been a long time, but I think that's it.)
 
 I don't know if something similar exists for linux or not though.
 

I was actually looking for a program to do this the other day - I
ended up using xmms with the disk-writer plugin to make the wav file,
using wavsplit to do the cutting (wavsplit is a very nice simple
program - you just tell it what the cutpoints or piece-sizes are in
frames / seconds / w/e), then lame in a bash loop to re-encode the
pieces back to mp3.

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Re: [mythtv-users] how much space does an HD recording take?

2005-05-09 Thread Anthony Floyd
That depends what format you're recording in, of course.  Using a PVR
250/350 with default standard-definition settings, you'll probably
get about 2.3 GB/hr as MPEG-2 video.  You can transcode this to MPEG-4
to about 1 GB/hr without too much artefact generation.  However, if
you want to record HDTV, then be prepared for much larger sizes.

If you're not using a 250/350 then we'll need more details to give you
an estimate...

Anthony.

On 5/9/05, JY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to get a good idea of how much disk space I need.  I want
 around 100 hrs.  I tried to search but didn't come up with much exact
 figures.  Something in the range of 6-10GB/hr?  is this right?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] how much space does an HD recording take?

2005-05-09 Thread Robert Kulagowski
I'm trying to get a good idea of how much disk space I need.  I want
around 100 hrs.  I tried to search but didn't come up with much exact
figures.  Something in the range of 6-10GB/hr?  is this right?
You're not asking the right question, but I'll answer it anyways.
2GB/hr with a hardware MPEG-2 card with reasonable defaults.
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Re: [mythtv-users] how much space does an HD recording take?

2005-05-09 Thread Robert Tsai
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 01:35:28PM -0700, JY wrote:
 I'm trying to get a good idea of how much disk space I need.  I want
 around 100 hrs.  I tried to search but didn't come up with much
 exact figures.  Something in the range of 6-10GB/hr?  is this right?

I've been seeing about 7-8GB/hr. But you can transcode it down to
whatever quality level you like. I transcode/downres most stuff down
to about 1-2GB/hr for acceptable non-archival non-videophile watching
on a 42 TV.

--Rob


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