Re: [mythtv-users] mythrename.pl subdirectories (was Re: streaming to windows (directly through myth))

[Tom Lichti]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 01/23/2006 03:59 PM, Tom Lichti wrote:
>> Right. Have you tried my new and improved mythrename.pl? It finally 
>> works correctly, and most of my stuff made it into SVN.
>>   
> As a matter of fact, I have.  It's nice--especially the no LiveTV 
> one.  And, I've been meaning to do up a change for the one that hasn't 
> yet made it into SVN, but never made time for it.  So, your question 
> provided the motivation I needed to finally get it done.
>
> I'd appreciate your testing this patch and providing feedback (does it 
> do everything yours does/work well for you/etc.).  Once I hear from 
> you, I can post it on #874, or feel free to do so yourself.  In case 
> you do it, I'm including some comments below for Trac.
Tested and working great. It works way better than what I did by a long 
shot. Please update the ticket with the new patch.

Thanks!
Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Decent starter combined FE/BE barebones system for $99 AR?

[Tom Lichti]

Steve Adeff wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 January 2006 10:13, Joseph A. Caputo wrote:
>   
>> DISCLAIMER: I do not work for TigerDirect, and I cannot vouch for the
>> ease/reliability of their rebates.  Buyer beware!
>>
>> -JAC
>> 
>
> TigerDirect rebates are the worst, don't expect to ever see the money
Uh, I've gotten at least ten rebates from TigerDirect. The only ones I 
didn't get were ones I never sent in

In fact, I'm going there at lunch to get some more stuff, with rebates... :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] How much storage do you have for MythTV?

[Tom Lichti]

Chris wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 16:39 +1100, Michael Fox wrote:
>   
>> On 1/24/06, Yeechang Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 8 X $150 320GB Western Digital drives = 2560 GB = $1200
>>> 2 X Infrant ReadyNAS 600 units without drives = $1200
>>>   
>
> hhmm i think i would go for something like this if you need _a lot_ of
> storage.
>
> http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?segment=VTrak&product_id=149
>
> e1000 fibercard and be happy :-))
>   
We have a couple of those in our computer room, soon to be deployed. 
Very nice... :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] streaming to windows (directly through myth)

[Tom Lichti]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 01/23/2006 03:25 PM, Tom Lichti wrote:
>   
>> Dave Jones wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I have no problems opening the .nuv files when I mount the TV 
>>> recording with Samba. (I.E., I installed samba on my mythbackend box, 
>>> then mount the TV directory on my Windows computer, and open the files 
>>> using VLC.) The filenames are pretty cryptic, but if you see what you 
>>> want to watch in mythweb, you can mouse over the link, look at the 
>>> filename, and then open that one in VLC.
>>>   
>> You could do what I do, use mythrename.pl (if using SVN) or mythname.sh 
>> (I think) with 0.18
>> 
> mythlink.sh with 0.18  ;)
>
> Mike
>   
Right. Have you tried my new and improved mythrename.pl? It finally 
works correctly, and most of my stuff made it into SVN.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] streaming to windows (directly through myth)

[Tom Lichti]

Dave Jones wrote:
> I have no problems opening the .nuv files when I mount the TV 
> recording with Samba. (I.E., I installed samba on my mythbackend box, 
> then mount the TV directory on my Windows computer, and open the files 
> using VLC.) The filenames are pretty cryptic, but if you see what you 
> want to watch in mythweb, you can mouse over the link, look at the 
> filename, and then open that one in VLC.
>
You could do what I do, use mythrename.pl (if using SVN) or mythname.sh 
(I think) with 0.18 (you may have to hunt around for it) and make pretty 
symlinks for everything. I've recently modified mythrename to create sub 
directories by title, so with a cron job I get a directory that looks 
like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin# ls -l /myth/tv/shows/
Auto_Racing Corner_Gas  Honda_Test_Drive  
Just_Ask_Jon_EakesRescue_Me
CSI:_Crime_Scene_Investigation  Drag_Racing Honda_at_Speed
Law_&_Order:_Criminal_Intent  Rick_Mercer_Report
Canada's_Worst_Driver   Honda_Civic_Launch  How_It's_Made 
Monster_GarageWorld_Poker_Tour

And in say the Auto_Racing directory I have:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/bin# ls /myth/tv/shows/Auto_Racing/
2005-11-26 SCCA Runoffs- GT Lite.mpg  2006-01-04 British Touring 
Car Championship Series.mpg
2005-11-27 SCCA Runoffs- G Production.mpg 2006-01-11 British Touring 
Car Championship Series.mpg
2005-12-02 SCCA Runoffs- Sports 2000.mpg  2006-01-18 British Touring 
Car Championship Series.mpg
2006-01-01 SCCA Runoffs- Grand Touring 2.mpg  2006-01-18 German Touring 
Car Series.mpg

I share /myth/tv/shows via Samba, and then anything that mounts it has a 
nice, easy to read list of what's available. I have cron run it at 3 and 
33 past the hour, so it's reasonably up to date. You could run it every 
5 minutes, if needed, it's not cpu intensive.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Missing .nuv files?

[Tom Lichti]

Michael Still wrote:
> Michael Still wrote:
>
>   
>> So, I have a couple of questions about this:
>>
>>   - why did it happen?
>>   - I can't delete the recordings from the UI now because of an error 
>> message. How do I rerecord these episodes?
>>
>> I'm running a SVN snapshot from Christmas day last year if that matters.
>> 
>
> Oh, but I just noticed that there is a .mpg.tmp file for each missing 
> .nuv file... This matches what my wife said about the videos working 
> last night, but not now. Is it possible that the transcoder is eating 
> data? How would I go about debugging this?
>
>   
Not sure, but you can try renaming it without the .tmp extension and see 
if that fixes the problem. It sounds as thought the transcoder is not 
finishing the job. I know there was some activity in SVN about the job 
queue, and things staying at 99%, which I believe has been fixed. Check 
the commit logs, and maybe try current SVN and see if that helps.

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Re: [mythtv-users] One video source for multiple inputs (was Re: SVN 8625 Tuner Status strangeness)

[Tom Lichti]

Tom Lichti wrote:
> Michael T. Dean wrote:
>   
>>> So I've got 4 different sources for 4 different cards (with the same 
>>> analog lineup) for nothing?
>>> 
>>>   
>> Yep.  (If it makes you feel better, I'm pretty sure from a couple of 
>> other posts I've read that you're not the only one.)
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> I'm sure I tried it with one source and it didn't work. What am I missing?
>>> 
>>>   
>> Don't know.  What do (did) you have?  Did you associate that source with 
>> an input on each card?  It would be nice for you to fix it so you're not 
>> using 4x the DD bandwidth.
>>
>> Mike
>>   
>> 
> Exactly! I'll try and go and fix that up. I recall that it seemed that I 
> couldn't tune channels on tuners other than 1. It was a LONG time ago 
> that I set that up...
>
> Tom
>   
Fixed. Sheesh, that was easy. I guess I can go delete all the other 
source channels now. That shouldn't affect stuff that was recorded with 
the other channel id's, will it? I wonder

Tom

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Re: [mythtv-users] One video source for multiple inputs (was Re: SVN 8625 Tuner Status strangeness)

[Tom Lichti]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
> Michael T. Dean wrote:
>
>   
>> Tom Lichti wrote:
>>  
>>
>> 
>>> So I've got 4 different sources for 4 different cards (with the same 
>>> analog lineup) for nothing?
>>>
>>>   
>> Yep.  (If it makes you feel better, I'm pretty sure from a couple of 
>> other posts I've read that you're not the only one.)
>>  
>>
>> 
> Heh.  The post that stood out most in my mind (enough to find with a 
> search) was actually yours: 
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/167280#167280
>
> But I've seen some others, too.
>
> Mike
>
>   
If you look farther up, and I quote:

"Okay, I'm officially lost. I'll shut up now. :)

Tom"

:)
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Re: [mythtv-users] One video source for multiple inputs (was Re: SVN 8625 Tuner Status strangeness)

[Tom Lichti]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> So I've got 4 different sources for 4 different cards (with the same 
>> analog lineup) for nothing?
>> 
> Yep.  (If it makes you feel better, I'm pretty sure from a couple of 
> other posts I've read that you're not the only one.)
>
>   
>> I'm sure I tried it with one source and it didn't work. What am I missing?
>> 
> Don't know.  What do (did) you have?  Did you associate that source with 
> an input on each card?  It would be nice for you to fix it so you're not 
> using 4x the DD bandwidth.
>
> Mike
>   
Exactly! I'll try and go and fix that up. I recall that it seemed that I 
couldn't tune channels on tuners other than 1. It was a LONG time ago 
that I set that up...

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] SVN 8625 Tuner Status strangeness

[Tom Lichti]

Steve Adeff wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 January 2006 15:23, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>   
>> On 01/17/06 22:42, Steve Adeff wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tuesday 17 January 2006 22:28, Chris Pinkham wrote:
>>>   
> Tuner Status says Tuner 3 is recording, but the file being written is
> 2068_blah, so wouldn't that mean its Tuner 2?
>   
 No, the 2068 is the chanid.  This is probably the second source you
 setup (whether you have 2 or had 1 and deleted it and added another).
 
>>> So source and tuner are not the same... strange, but I guess it doesn't
>>> really matter. I'll just have to remember 2 and 3 are backwards.
>>>   
>> Source as in "video sources" as in channel lineups.  Has nothing to do
>> with capture cards/tuners/inputs.  I have one source and 2 capture cards
>> and set up a box with one source and 4 capture cards.  Every one of my
>> recordings (and every recording on the 4 card box) starts with "1" (i.e.
>> 1009_xxx, 1035_xxx) regardless of which tuner records them.
>>
>> Mike
>> 
>
> ah. so the first digit is the source, not the tuner! vewy intwesting
>   
So I've got 4 different sources for 4 different cards (with the same 
analog lineup) for nothing? I'm sure I tried it with one source and it 
didn't work. What am I missing?

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Mythtv on an Xbox error?

[Tom Lichti]

A JM wrote:
> It's text not graphical.
>
> The install is a loopback file so it's not really a full install of 
> Fedora (not404.com ) if I understand correctly, my 
> guess is that it's been messaged and stripped down. However I did 
> install xorg on it so I would think X should run?
Perhaps...I don't know for sure.
>
> Any reason why changing /etc/inittab didn't change the startup 
> behavior? Is there a log I could look at to find out if there are some 
> messeges or problems while trying to start x?

/var/log/x(something).log. xorg and XFree have different names, it's 
likely xorg.0.log or something to that effect.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Mythtv on an Xbox error?

[Tom Lichti]

A JM wrote:
> Initially /etc/inittab was set for 3, I changed it to 5 rebooted and 
> got the same login screen prompting for me to login:?
Is the login screen graphical or text? Your system really does not sound 
like it is completely setup. Every Fedora installation I've ever done 
automatically boots into the graphical login manager.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Mythtv on an Xbox error?

[Tom Lichti]

A JM wrote:
> Here is a post from the terminal:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# startx
> hostname: Unknown host
>
Don't do this from a terminal, do it from the actual tv screen, or have 
the system start up in runlevel 5. Look in /etc/inittab for

id:5:initdefault:

If it's not 5, make it 5, and reboot. X should start automatically.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Compiling Mythtv on an Xbox error?

[Tom Lichti]

A JM wrote:
> Thanks Pete, but I was able to get past the compiling issues and setup 
> problems with distcc, which worked great by the way that's a sweet 
> little program.
>
> I'm now just trying to launch the FE on my XBOX and getting 
> "Mythfrontend: cannot connect to X server"
Is X running on the Xbox? You mentioned you typed 'start x' when the 
command is 'startx' (no space between start and x).

I personally spent weeks trying to get Myth running on my Xbox and gave 
up and use XBMC now. Much easier, but no live tv.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Shouldn't XvMC be faster than Xv?

[Tom Lichti]

Scott Alfter wrote:
> I've been playing around with Subversion builds lately, and I've noticed
> something that shouldn't be the case: XvMC is substantially slower than
> non-XvMC playback.  Even non-HD video won't play back smoothly with XvMC
> enabled.  HD, of course, definitely won't play back under those conditions.
>
> Is there some configuration somewhere that I'm missing, or is XvMC currently
> broken (again)?  I'm currently running the 8629 revision on an Athlon 64
> 3700 with a Geforce 6200, but I saw the same behavior with the 8444 revision
> on the same hardware and on an Athlon XP 3000 with a GeforceFX 5200.
>
>   
I'm running SVN 8625, on a P3 1G, 512MB RAM, GF MX440, and non-HD video 
with XvMC works flawlessly for me now. I used to have to enable 
deinterlacing, but I tested last night and it works great now without 
it. No hiccups at all. I have the following options enabled (that I 
recall from memory)

- extra audio buffering
- standard xvmc
- opengl vsync ON
- use video as timebase OFF
- no deinterlacing

I think HD would probably be possible with my setup, if I had any HD 
material... :)

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Nuvexport ignoring cutlist

[Tom Lichti]

Kirk Bocek wrote:
> Chris Petersen wrote:
>   
>> (keep in mind that a cutlist is 
>> different than just having detected commercials).  If you do actually 
>> have a cutlist and it's not working, then something's definitely up with 
>> mythtranscode.
>> 
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Ah, I did not know that. Well, can or will nuvexport remove detected 
> commercials then?
>
> Kirk
>
>   
Yes, but you have to remember, detected commercials are different from 
the cutlist. You can copy flagged commercial breaks to the cutlist for a 
particular recording with mythcommflag --gencutlist (check the --help to 
get the correct syntax) and THEN run nuvexport, and it should work.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Name that tuner!

[Tom Lichti]

Steve Daniels wrote:
> Ok, I've aquired a tuner and haven't a clue what kind it is, all I have is 
> the board.
>
> It's in a machine at the moment so can't see it to tell you any codes 
> written on it but it's got the following I/O from top to bottom.
> It's a Hauppauge Analogue Card, and probably at least 1 year old.
>
> FM, TV, Line Out, Vid, Line in, IR
>
> Now name that tuner!
>
> If you want me to run any commands to help find out what tuner it is, or 
> need to me find any numbers written on the board feel free to ask and I'll 
> get back to you. I'm wondering whether to leave this card in or swap it out 
> for another Nova-T i've got. I wanted to leave it in so I could convert any 
> VHS tapes over to myth as and when requested by the family.. Or it might 
> just be better to stick it into my desktop machine and create the divx's 
> manually.. hmmm
>
>   
Running lspci -v should give you something like the following:

:00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc 
iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV PVR 250
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
Memory at d800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging not working

[Tom Lichti]

Chris Pinkham wrote:
 2006-01-12 10:00:28.823 Starting Commercial Flagging for "The Grim
 Adventures of Billy and Mandy" recorded from channel 1047 at Thu Jan 12
 10:00:00 2006.
 illegal option: '-V' (use --help)
 
>
>   
>> Just out of curiousity, is that an uppercase V or lowercase v? I am 
>> using current SVN, and I only have a lowercase v (verbose) option.
>> 
>
> Upper.  It's not mentioned in the --help since it isn't meant for use
> by the user.  It is a bitmap of the -v verbose options.  Myth uses this
> bitmap internally for printing verbose messages, so I created the -V
> command-line option to pass that bitmap to mythcommflag and mythtranscode
> so the JobQueue would start them with the same verbose options that
> mythbackend (or mythjobqueue) was started with.
>   
Ok, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging not working

[Tom Lichti]

Chris Pinkham wrote:
>> 2006-01-12 10:00:28.823 Starting Commercial Flagging for "The Grim
>> Adventures of Billy and Mandy" recorded from channel 1047 at Thu Jan 12
>> 10:00:00 2006.
>> illegal option: '-V' (use --help)
>> 2006-01-12 10:00:29.378 Finished, 10 break(s) found.
>> 
>
> You've got an old copy of mythcommflag laying around somewhere that
> doesn't work with the current version of the JobQueue.  The -V option was
> added specifically for the JobQueue but the mythcommflag that is being found
> in your $PATH doesn't support that option.  Search for an old mythcommflag
> binary and get rid of it.
>
>   
Just out of curiousity, is that an uppercase V or lowercase v? I am 
using current SVN, and I only have a lowercase v (verbose) option.

Thanks
Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Questionaire: What do you have your casepowerbutton do?

[Tom Lichti]

David Watkins wrote:
>> I have an IR keyboard. The BIOS is configured
>> to power-on with any key-press.  I programmed my remote to send
>> the key-presses from my keyboard. That's also how I send all other
>> commands. I don't use LIRC at all on the front end.  My keyboard
>> is  always put away and I only need it if I'm working on that
>> computer for some other purpose.
>> 
>
> That's a neat idea.  Was it hard to find a keyboard and remote that
> share the same protocol?
>   
My problem is that I have two IR keyboards, and I can 'learn' both of 
them on my remote, but when I try to send the keys, it doesn't work, and 
I never bothered to figure out why, I just learned the Hauppage Grey 
remote keys instead. Any thoughts?

Tom

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Re: [mythtv-users] ATA 33 fast enough?

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have an old P 3 @ 450 mhz slot 1 cpu and an ATA 33 IDE / motherboard laying 
> around.  Is this fast enough for PVR 150?  I am considering making it a 
> backend with an AMD 1.2 ghz PVR 350 frontend.
>
>
>   
That should work OK for a backend only. I think my original combined 
FE/BE was only a P3 800 with dual 250's.

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Re: [mythtv-users] List etiquette re: selling something on the list.

[Tom Lichti]

Petr Stehlik wrote:
> Tom Lichti píše v Út 10. 01. 2006 v 11:49 -0500:
>   
>> I have a couple of items that I no longer need and that are really of 
>> use only to someone running MythTV and I know someone here can probably 
>> use them. Or should I just put it on ebay and hope someone here sees it?
>> 
>
> I would be happy if someone offered me a spare PAL TV card with MPEG2 HW
> encoder (either the Hauppauge PVR 150 or something else, if there is
> anything else that works equally well in linux). Mail me privately.
> Thanks.
>
>   
I should mention they are not encoder cards. Only one other thing it 
could be really... :)

Tom
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[mythtv-users] List etiquette re: selling something on the list.

[Tom Lichti]

I have a couple of items that I no longer need and that are really of 
use only to someone running MythTV and I know someone here can probably 
use them. I don't want to upset Isaac as I know he doesn't like it when 
people sell stuff here. What I would like to do is donate a portion of 
the sale to the MythTV effort (or the actual items, if they could be 
used), the question is, how? Is there a paypal donation address? Or 
should I just put it on ebay and hope someone here sees it? I'd rather 
just go direct to the right audience, but if that's not appreciated, 
then I will go the ebay route.

Thanks
Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Yes!! LiveTV works on DVB-T

[Tom Lichti]

Steve Adeff wrote:

On Monday 19 December 2005 20:31, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Steve Adeff wrote:


On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:08, Dag Nygren wrote:
  

I've been running 8199 for a while now. When it says a recording will
start I have to make sure to exit to the menu, but I've been able to
watch live TV for a while (and NEVER try to record something while in
LiveTV)...


Just tested this and it s still there. If you watch LiveTV when a
recording is about
to start you are in trouble...
In our case the LiveTV was just there with noone watching and a
recording should have started 10 minutes ago.
Now the system claims to be recording, but most definitely is not.

Dag


like I said, you have to go back to the main menu, its a issue that the
devs know about, and very well could be fixed by now...
  

This must be a DVB thing, because I do not have, nor have I ever had
this problem, with 2 PVR-250's and 2 Avermedia 179's. I can record and
watch live tv with out problems.

Tom



are you running SVN?
  
Almost always. I may get a few days behind, but rarely am I more than a 
week behind.

I get this with my PVR150 input actually

Interesting. How many tuner cards do you have?

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Yes!! LiveTV works on DVB-T

[Tom Lichti]

Steve Adeff wrote:

On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:08, Dag Nygren wrote:
  

I've been running 8199 for a while now. When it says a recording will
start I have to make sure to exit to the menu, but I've been able to
watch live TV for a while (and NEVER try to record something while in
LiveTV)...


Just tested this and it s still there. If you watch LiveTV when a recording
is about
to start you are in trouble...
In our case the LiveTV was just there with noone watching and a recording
should have started 10 minutes ago.
Now the system claims to be recording, but most definitely is not.

Dag



like I said, you have to go back to the main menu, its a issue that the devs 
know about, and very well could be fixed by now...
  
This must be a DVB thing, because I do not have, nor have I ever had 
this problem, with 2 PVR-250's and 2 Avermedia 179's. I can record and 
watch live tv with out problems.


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Re: [mythtv-users] mythbackend startup script for Debian

[Tom Lichti]

Andrew Wilson wrote:

I came across this one... It has to do with $HOME not being defined.
My fix was to put at the start of the script:

HOME=/home/mythtv

and then it all started working. Nasty gotcha

Andrew
I think that's essentially what my post does, in a roundabout way. Your 
solution seems more elegant though... :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] mythbackend startup script for Debian

[Tom Lichti]

Adam Egger wrote:

On 12/13/05, Marius Schrecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Thanks everyone who answered this. My backend now starts as I want it.



So what is actually the solution for this "Failed to init
MythContext"? There are very often people asking why the init script
doesn't start for them on debian with the default init script from
Matt Zimmerman:

2005-12-15 09:07:39.327 Using runtime prefix = /usr
2005-12-15 09:07:39.646 Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt
2005-12-15 09:07:39.745 Trying to create a basic mysql.txt file
2005-12-15 09:07:39.824 Could not create //.mythtv
2005-12-15 09:07:39.939 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
  
I think you need to link /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt to 
/root/.mythtv/mysql.txt to make that work. I think that's what I did, at 
any rate...


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Re: [mythtv-users] Sell Me On a Remote / IR Receiver

[Tom Lichti]

Weston, Toby wrote:

I have a couple of spare receivers (I use a homebrew serial receiver), 2
from a Nova-T and one from a PVR-250. I'm pretty sure they're the same, drop
me a line off-list and I'll pop one in the post if you'd like to experiment.
Come to think of it, I should have the remotes too (I use a TiVO remote)...

  

I have one spare receiver, and two Hauppage remotes as well, if needed.

As an alternative, for my second front end, I have a DirecTV RC-23 
remote and a serial IR receiver, and it works great! It has tons of 
buttons, it didn't take long at all to get it setup, and I think my 
total cost was under $50.



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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

[Tom Lichti]

Kevin Kuphal wrote:

Tom Lichti wrote:

I'm not in front of my Myth box at the moment so I'm probably talking 
out my ass, but can't he hide the channels on one of the Myth 
listings? I know on mine, I have maybe 40 channels total in the 
source, so 160 overall, and I can modify them independently as I 
wish. Would this not work for his purposes?



Source = channel list
He wants two *separate* channel lists, one for each tuner
So he needs two sources

Okay, I'm officially lost. I'll shut up now. :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Touchscreen

[Tom Lichti]

GREG & AMY LINDLEY wrote:

Matt,

No, I haven't pointed out mythtv functionality specifically.  Mythtv 
will work with a mouse and since a touchscreen functions just like a 
mouse (just a different /dev device in the xorg.conf file), there 
really isn't anything special that needs to be done.  You can navigate 
the menus simply by putting your finger on them.  I did it because, 
well lets face it, although some folks are adept at using remotes, 
others are well, not.  The menu system in MythTV is easy enough to 
navigate with a touchscreen for those who can't figure out the 
(typically) mislabeled remote or don't care to try.  Besides, it was a 
fun project 8).  Best source is probably the IBM article pointed out 
earlier:


http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-playscreen/
I think the point that he is trying to make is that Myth does NOT work 
with a mouse, last time I checked anyway, so the question is, what did 
you do to make that happen?


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

[Tom Lichti]

Isaac Richards wrote:

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:12, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Isaac Richards wrote:


On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Kevin Kuphal wrote:


Matt Mossholder wrote:
  

2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have
certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in
the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where
I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to
use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is
encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania
Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable
with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the
guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and
then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and
marking the originals as invisible


Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that
has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.
Should work fine.
  

I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
what you want.


You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.

Isaac
  

Good, so I did something right for a change! He should be able to then
modify his channel listing so he only sees the available channels for
each tuner, I would assume.



Need two sources for that, as Kevin said.

Isaac
  
I'm not in front of my Myth box at the moment so I'm probably talking 
out my ass, but can't he hide the channels on one of the Myth listings? 
I know on mine, I have maybe 40 channels total in the source, so 160 
overall, and I can modify them independently as I wish. Would this not 
work for his purposes?


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

[Tom Lichti]

Isaac Richards wrote:

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Kevin Kuphal wrote:


Matt Mossholder wrote:
  

2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have
certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in
the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where
I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to
use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is
encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania
Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable
with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the
guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and
then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and
marking the originals as invisible


Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that
has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.
Should work fine.
  

I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
what you want.



You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.

Isaac
  
Good, so I did something right for a change! He should be able to then 
modify his channel listing so he only sees the available channels for 
each tuner, I would assume.


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

[Tom Lichti]

Kevin Kuphal wrote:

Matt Mossholder wrote:



2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have 
certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in 
the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where 
I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to 
use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is 
encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania 
Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable 
with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the 
guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and 
then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and 
marking the originals as invisible


Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that 
has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.  
Should work fine.
I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is 
nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4 
sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected 
them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to 
what you want.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging, what are the best settings?

[Tom Lichti]

Kim Wall wrote:

Beny Spensieri Jr wrote:


Any advise on what combination of settings will
produce the most accurate commercial detection?


This seems to be extremely regional.  I believe the current algorithms 
produce good results in the US, but here in the UK they're almost 
useless for most channels (I only consistently get usable results on 
Channel5 afternoon movies).


I assume from your email address that you're in Canada... maybe 
someone else can provide some hints as to what works best over there.


Up hear in the near North (aka Canada), ALL works well for me. It does 
depend on the show/channel though. I'd say it's right about 80% of the 
time, if not more, but I have no statistical evidence to back that up. 
The show that ALWAYS works 100% for me is WSOP, for some reason.


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Re: [mythtv-users] XBox Media Center Question

[Tom Lichti]

Phill Edwards wrote:

Well, I was just referring to the native XBMC media player. There is a
Myth plugin script for XBMC that supposedly allows Live TV, and I
presume time stretch, but I can't get it to work with latest SVN, so
it's a non-starter for me (which is also the reason I can't run any of
the Myth/Debian/Xbox combos either).



You're referring to xbmcmythtv (see sourceforge) which is a set of
python scripts which run under XBMC. This includes support for live TV
(if you can get it to work) and commercial skipping. It doesn't do
time stretch, though, AFAIK.
  
Yes, that's what I was referring to. I couldn't get much of anything to 
work with it, and XBMC does everything else that I want, so that's what 
I'm using. I especially like that you can start a music playlist, and 
then continue doing other stuff, like check the weather, view image 
galleries, etc.


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Re: [mythtv-users] False "previously recorded" flag for new episode?

[Tom Lichti]

Garry Cook wrote:
My Grey's recorded fine too, although Desparate Housewives didn't. Any 
chance that was a rerun, or am I seeing the same problem with a 
different show?
I don't think DH was on. My schedule shows a special 'Extreme Makeover' 
in it's place. Didn't want to compete with Survivor, I guess... :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Picture in Picture

[Tom Lichti]

Joshua Lewis wrote:

So I am thinking old school where a TV has two TV Tuners in the back and
you are supposed to plug a line into each.

You are saying you only have to plug in the one tuner and MythTV does the
PiP from the one tuner?

That is pretty sweet.
  

Might want to read it again...


Not sure if you know this, but myth offers PiP when watching live tv
already, so long as you have two seperate tuner cards.


***two separate tuner cards.***

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythbackend startup script for Debian

[Tom Lichti]

Kim Wall wrote:

Marius Schrecker wrote:


Can anyone point me at a working script, or tell me the best approach to
make one myself? I think I used a script from the 0.18 deb last time
(before my hard disk crash), but this time it's pure svn.


Have a look at Knoppmyth?  It's debian based, so the init script 
should work, or at least make a good starting point.



Here is the KnoppMyth script. It works for me:

#! /bin/sh
#
# mythtv-server MythTV capture and encoding backend
#
# Based on:
#
# skeleton  example file to build /etc/init.d/ scripts.
#   This file should be used to construct scripts for 
/etc/init.d.

#
#   Written by Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
#   Modified for Debian GNU/Linux
#   by Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
#
# Version:  @(#)skeleton  1.9.1  08-Apr-2002  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#

PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
DAEMON=/usr/local/bin/mythbackend
NAME="mythbackend"
DESC="MythTV server"

test -x $DAEMON || exit 0

set -e

USER=mythtv
RUNDIR=/var/run/mythtv
ARGS="--daemon --logfile /var/log/mythbackend.log --pidfile 
$RUNDIR/$NAME.pid"

EXTRA_ARGS=""
NICE=0

if [ -f /etc/default/mythtv-backend ]; then
 . /etc/default/mythtv-backend
fi

ARGS="$ARGS $EXTRA_ARGS"

mkdir -p $RUNDIR
chown -R $USER $RUNDIR


case "$1" in
 start)
   echo -n "Starting $DESC: $NAME"
   start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid \
   --chuid $USER --nicelevel $NICE --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS
   echo "."
   ;;
 stop)
   echo -n "Stopping $DESC: $NAME "
   start-stop-daemon --stop --oknodo --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid \
   --chuid $USER --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS
   echo "."
   ;;
 restart|force-reload)
   echo -n "Restarting $DESC: $NAME"
   start-stop-daemon --stop --oknodo --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid \
   --chuid $USER --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS
   echo "."
   sleep 3
   start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile $RUNDIR/$NAME.pid \
   --chuid $USER --nicelevel $NICE --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS
   echo "."
   ;;
 *)
   N=/etc/init.d/$NAME
   # echo "Usage: $N {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}" >&2
   echo "Usage: $N {start|stop|restart|force-reload}" >&2
   exit 1
   ;;
esac

exit 0

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Re: [mythtv-users] Touchscreen

[Tom Lichti]

Isaac Richards wrote:

On Monday 12 December 2005 09:56, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Peter Osterberg wrote:


True but that is a one way solution. I want to see music lists etc, I
want two way communication in the SAME device.

I can come up with lots of solutions. This one would be really cool
and that is why I want it.
All other HTPC projects I've seen support this. I think it is sad that
Myth lacks mouse support since Myth i superiour when it comes to
everything else.
  

Check the commits list, someone just added a patch to support mouse
gestures. Might do what you want.



Note, the patch that's in trac does _not_ work with the current UI code.

Isaac
  
Well, I did say *might* work... :) It's not of interest to me, so I 
never looked any deeper.


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Re: [mythtv-users] XBox Media Center Question

[Tom Lichti]

Andrew Close wrote:

On 12/11/05, Tom Lichti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Robert Anderson wrote:





  

XBMC is amazing, I can do everything except watch live tv, which
isn't a big deal, so now I have a useable XBox, the only thing it
doesn't have is timestretch and commercial skip, but as this is a
secondary box, I can live with it.



bummer, i didn't think about those features.  commercial skip doesn't
bug me so much cause you can zip through them with FF or little jumps.
 but timestretch, that's one of my favorite features. :)  i love
showing that off to my firends and family that think Tivo is the cat's
meow.  i can watch three episodes of Modern Marvels in the time that
one would normally play.
oh well, my MythBox looks pretty sitting next to my stereo equipment
so maybe i'll keep it as a FE/BE after all. :)
  
Well, I was just referring to the native XBMC media player. There is a 
Myth plugin script for XBMC that supposedly allows Live TV, and I 
presume time stretch, but I can't get it to work with latest SVN, so 
it's a non-starter for me (which is also the reason I can't run any of 
the Myth/Debian/Xbox combos either).


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Re: [mythtv-users] Touchscreen

[Tom Lichti]

Peter Osterberg wrote:
True but that is a one way solution. I want to see music lists etc, I 
want two way communication in the SAME device.


I can come up with lots of solutions. This one would be really cool 
and that is why I want it.
All other HTPC projects I've seen support this. I think it is sad that 
Myth lacks mouse support since Myth i superiour when it comes to 
everything else.
Check the commits list, someone just added a patch to support mouse 
gestures. Might do what you want.


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Re: [mythtv-users] alternative GPU - graphics cards with opensourcedrivers question

[Tom Lichti]

Bob wrote:



I also have an environmental problem with just discarding 3 ECS K7S5A 
boards that I love because I can't find a graphics card for them, the 
planet can't afford for us all to behave like that, we have to learn 
that financial isn't the only cost associated with a purchase. 



Give them away, then. Not sure about your area, but around here we have 
mailing lists called 'Freecycle' where people post about things they are 
giving away. It's gotten pretty popular, and it's great for getting rid 
of stuff that has no value for you, but may be of value to someone else. 
Most of the Freecycle lists I've seen are on Yahoo.


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Re: [mythtv-users] XBox Media Center Question

[Tom Lichti]

Robert Anderson wrote:


There is also a torrent for a working xebian release with mythtv 
installed...
 
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3397792


Unfortunately that only works with .18.1, not SVN, so it's useless to 
me. XBMC is amazing, I can do everything except watch live tv, which 
isn't a big deal, so now I have a useable XBox, the only thing it 
doesn't have is timestretch and commercial skip, but as this is a 
secondary box, I can live with it.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Nvidia 8174 driver released

[Tom Lichti]

David Ellis wrote:

Funny - tried it and had TERRIBLE playback (Jittery playback). Not using
XVMC, just XV on a AMD64 with 5700.interested to see if anyone else
tried it?

  
I tried it as well, and I have the same problem. It's better with XvMC, 
but just barely. I get lots and lots of prebuffer pauses.

For now - I've moved back to the 7676 build (which works flawlessly on my
setup).
  

I think I'll be doing the same.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: USB IR Receiver Free after rebate

[Tom Lichti]

Phil Bridges wrote:

On 12/6/05, Kevin Kuphal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I'm not sure what the Linux support is for this device, but it seemed
interesting enough (and free enough) to post here as a possible IR
receiver solution for Myth.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sourceid=qIq2Q5WdfyB7AnCSxjQx&siteid=0040932038&CMP=AFC-AFFIL&Sku=C250-1160&EdpNo=1104138&SRCCODE=BEFREE

Kevin





That's IRDA, not plain IR.  I'm not sure what kind of support amongst
devices you'll find for that.
  
I have a similar unit, and from all the documentation I read, it 
_cannot_ work, at least the way LIRC is designed.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: sorry to bother you about your xbox mythtv image

[Tom Lichti]

Robert Anderson wrote:

Go ahead and download the torrent file from the following location:
 
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3397792
 
It looks like someone is still seeding it. If not, email me back and I 
will create an updated release this week. There is an update to the 
remote control drivers that needs to be included for 3rd party remotes 
to work.
 
-Rob Anderson

I don't suppose this is an SVN release? Still have no working xbox/MythTV...

thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth on XBOX 360!

[Tom Lichti]

Robert Johnston wrote:

On 12/5/05, Tom Lichti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Michael J. Lynch wrote:


What are the chances anyone has this working yet?

  

About 0%, considering that no-one has managed to hack into the 360 yet
(much less install Linux on it). I think it will be awhile



As the 360 can work as a UPNP frontend for Windows Media Center (And
compatible systems), and there was some talk of developing a UPNP
server for Myth (And perhaps using that to "Autodiscover" the
frontend/backend relationship), perhaps this isn't so far off...
--
Robert "Anaerin" Johnston
  

Yes, that would be nice, hopefully someone will tackle that one.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth on XBOX 360!

[Tom Lichti]

Michael J. Lynch wrote:

What are the chances anyone has this working yet?

About 0%, considering that no-one has managed to hack into the 360 yet 
(much less install Linux on it). I think it will be awhile

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Re: [mythtv-users] Database Backup (Was: How big is your database?)

[Tom Lichti]

Brian Bosch wrote:

On 12/3/05, Wade Maxfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Anyone care to post their scipt to back up/compress their database?
I suppose I could write my own, but why reinvent the wheel? :)



  

This is what I use for all my automatic mysql backups (webservers as well)

MySQL Backup Script
http://sourceforge.net/projects/automysqlbackup/

You'll just need to set a couple of preferences in the start of the
script, and setup a mysql user with the right permissions...

  - Wade



There is information on this here:
http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.5 as well as in the
archives: 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=mythtv&do=search_results&search_forum=forum_1&search_string=database+backup&search_type=AND

Based on info found in the above I have this in my backup script:
#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/mysqldump -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -c | gzip -c >
"/home/mythtv/backup/mythconverg_backup.`date +%w`.sql.gz"
cp /home/mythtv/backup/* /home/mythtv/nas/mythbackup/

  
I do pretty much the same thing, except at the end I split the file into 
small (<10MB) segments and email them to my gmail account. Now I have 
offsite backup as well, just in case the house burns down and I _really_ 
need to get my MythTV box working again :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] OT:? GeForce MX4000 and TV Out oddness

[Tom Lichti]

SpEnT wrote:

The internal Myth player can play DVD's, and xine has menu support. For
full screen:



you can specify Internal on the Myth DVD player settings? I never
tried it only because I never saw the option in the "info text" at the
bottom of the screen in the DVD player settings ... I'll try that
next, thanks! I kind of wondered ... I noticed when I was compiling
that there was support for DVD player but I wasn't positive it was in
as a module. This would pretty much mean nothing was left to chance
and everything will work perfect.

  
Well, the internal DVD player isn't perfect, but it's pretty good. I 
don't think it has menu support though. I haven't used it in awhile...


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Re: [mythtv-users] Are there any xbox mythtv distros still beingsupported?

[Tom Lichti]

William wrote:
I just got done installing mythtv on the xbox using the 
xebian distro.  Hopefully, this will help you:




http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Xebian_HOWTO

Also take a look at the reference links at the bottom.


That distro fails when it cannot find any files at 


deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv

I have not been able to access this repo since 2 weeks ago.
  
None of these solutions address using current SVN though. I cannot find 
a combination that works. And I also cannot compile it myself, because 
when I try and add the qt-dev tools (for qmake) it wants to upgrade 
everything and the kitchen sink, which I know from experience breaks 
everything. I can watch videos, and that's it. No recorded programs, and 
no live tv, so it's fairly useless at the moment.


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Re: [mythtv-users] OT:? GeForce MX4000 and TV Out oddness

[Tom Lichti]

SpEnT wrote:

On 11/30/05, Joseph A. Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

(I
still have to look into possibly setting the dimentions for full
screen play with either xine or mplayer ... maybe there's a way to
make it fit in the init line).
  

You can tweak pretty much anything with MPlayer.



I just wish they had menu support ;) ... either way I don't care, I'd
like to be able to see the movie decent on the screen. One option is
play with MPlayer, the other is transcode whatever DVD's I want to
watch to avi and use the internal Myth player in MythVideo.
  
The internal Myth player can play DVD's, and xine has menu support. For 
full screen:


xine -f
mplayer -fs

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Re: [mythtv-users] NuppelVideo container format

[Tom Lichti]

Isaac Richards wrote:

On Sunday 27 November 2005 04:35 pm, Brian Edmonds wrote:
  

On 11/27/05, Tom Lichti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Depends on the driver for this imaginary PVR card. I don't know of any
that will record to DivX directly.
  

The Plextor ConvertX does DivX in hardware.  Unfortunately MythTV only
supports it in MPEG4 mode.



Uh, divx is mpeg4.  The convertx doesn't support _any_ file format in 
hardware, it just handles video codecs.  It's up to whatever is doing the 
recording to save it into a container format.


Isaac
  

That's what I thought.

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Re: [mythtv-users] NuppelVideo container format

[Tom Lichti]

Felix Rubinstein wrote:

Guys, thanks for such a prompt reply!
 
But I think you miss the point.
Those of you who read the last issue of Linux journal, the "Advanced 
MythTV Video Processing" article must note, I citate:
"Although digital TV recordings are an MPEG-2 video stream, the 
NuppelVideo container format used by MythTV is specific to MythTV and 
is not supported by most video player software. To watch the videos 
with anything other than a MythTV front end, you must convert them to 
a format with a wider selection of players."
Just because it is in a magazine doesn't make it right. If you rename a 
.nuv file to .mpg, it will play in most video players, from my experience.
 
I need to use mythtranscode tool to convert the MythTV recordings into 
more widely supported formats, means it's not MPEG-2 format.
 
Additionally, as I understood, if you take a file in Myth native 
format with resolution 704x480 which size is 1,756MB after decoding it 
to DVD (i.e. MPEG-2) format, the file will shrink to 899MB.
Now is the one million dollar question, why the native file (original) 
is so large?
Because the bitrate is different, perhaps? The .nuv file IS MPEG2, 
despite what you want to believe.
 
Another example, what if I have PVR which has DivX encoding 
capabilities, whould MythTV save it in DivX (as I expect it to be), or 
in its native format?
Depends on the driver for this imaginary PVR card. I don't know of any 
that will record to DivX directly.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Yet Another New OSD: Gray-OSD

[Tom Lichti]

Greg Estabrooks wrote:

have you tried Everaldo's crystal icons (done for KDE)?
http://everaldo.com/



 Thanks, they have some good looking stuff that I will definately
check out in more detail.

 Keep them coming people, if anyone knows of any good "free"
icon sets out there I'd love to take a look at them.
  

http://www.pixelgirlpresents.com/icons.php?cat=pc

http://interfacelift.com/icons-win/

http://www.iconcool.com/xp-icons.htm

http://www.xp-icons.com/

http://www.wincustomize.com/Skins.aspx?LibID=2&u=0


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Re: [mythtv-users] Yet Another New OSD: Gray-OSD

[Tom Lichti]

Greg Estabrooks wrote:


I tried out that font and it looks great, and I'd certainly want to use
one that can reach as mainy users as possible so I'll be including that from 
now on. The license is nice and flexible too which is great.


I'm also considering moving to rounded borders for boxes that don't touch 
the edge of the screen like this.



http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgreyosd13.jpg
 

I've got the current one in, and I love it! I like the rounded edges 
too, do it!!! :)


Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] ProjectX user guide

[Tom Lichti]

Steve Adeff wrote:

Is there a way to have myth rescan a file after commercial cutting?
If I could rename the original, cut commercials, save the output file
as the original name and have Myth rescan the new mpeg I'd be a happy
camper.


you could dump the new output in the /myth/video directory and then in
mythfrontend utilities go into your video manager and it should be
rescanned.
  


project X is PERFECT for what your looking for. It is *meticulous* in keeping 
video and audio output time synced. As well it runs wonderfuly from CLI (at 
least it does on my system).


Steve
  
I could never get Project X to work right on my system. And now it 
doesn't matter, because the latest SVN mythtranscode does that anyway. 
It can cut commercials, keep audio/video in sync (and fix some sync 
issues if the exist) and leave the original format in tact, minus the 
commercials. It's almost at the 'holy grail' stage for me. Check the 
trac commits for mythtranscode, and/or the myth-dev list for mpeg2fix or 
mythtranscode from the last 2 weeks.


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Re: [mythtv-users] run transcode on selected programs schedules

[Tom Lichti]

Michael Jones wrote:

Ooo!  Ahh!

Almost makes me want to go to the svn before .19 comes out..

Ponder ponder.. Tink tink..
  
There is lots of goodness in latest SVN, from what I can tell based on 
what I've seen in the commits and dev list. I plan on upgrading tonight, 
as I have been waiting for Live TV to be stable, which for the most part 
it looks like it is, now. I have been running SVN up until a few weeks 
ago, so it won't be a huge leap for me. I can't see .19 being TOO much 
longer though, although I think the UI stuff was targeted for .19, but 
most of the work I've seen has been around Live TV. Of course, I'm not a 
developer, so take that with a grain of salt. But really, I can't see a 
.19 release being all that different from what we have now in SVN now, 
in terms of features. In terms of bugs, maybe, but I don't see any 
showstoppers out there.


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Re: [mythtv-users] run transcode on selected programs schedules

[Tom Lichti]

Larry K wrote:

...snip...
I wonder, though...is transcoding the only way to remove commercials 
per the cut list?  I mean, I'm not transcoding to reduce the size of 
the files, or to change the format of the recorded files, which I 
assume is the primary purpose of transcoding.  Is there another 
(easier) way to whack the commercials besides transcoding?


The latest SVN has a new mythtranscode that supports cutting only, in 
that it does no transcoding, it only cuts based on cutlist. On my 600MB 
test files it cut the whole file in oh, ten seconds? You have to 
manually set it up though. Search the myth-dev list for 'mpeg2fix' 
and/or look at recent SVN commits for that or mythtranscode.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: NUV to DVD scripts for PVR-xxx owners

[Tom Lichti]

Mike Frisch wrote:


My future mods will take a MythTV cutlist and pass it to ProjectX for
cutting.
 

You might want to catch up on the 'MPEG commercial-cut code' thread in 
the Myth dev list. There is a tool in development to cut commercials 
already that is pretty close to working. I mean, it does work, but it's 
not ready for prime time yet.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Atrpms Down?

[Tom Lichti]

Thom Paine wrote:
I was just following Jarrod's guide tonight with another box I whipped 
together and I can't seem to get atrpms to work.


Is it down for everyone or just me?


From this list, 6 days ago:

Hello,

apt.physik.fu-berlin.de was already deprecated more than a year ago,
and apt.atrpms.net was deprecated in July 2005.

While >= 90% of the users have switched, there are still about 5000
users on apt.atrpms.net and 2000 on apt.physik.fu-berlin.de (numbers
derived from unique daily visits).  apt.atrpms.net is mainly used by
FC3 users, and apt.physik.fu-berlin.de by RH9 and FC1 users.

Please update your apt and yum configurations to use
dl.atrpms.net. E.g. for FC3:

= apt config for FC3/i386

# 
# atrpms

# Fedora Core 3 - i386 - ATrpms
# 
rpm http://dl.atrpms.net fc3-i386/atrpms stable

#rpm-src http://dl.atrpms.net/src fc3-i386/atrpms stable

= yum config for FC3/i386

[atrpms]
name=Fedora Core 3 - i386 - ATrpms
baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/fc3-i386/atrpms/stable
failovermethod=priority

=

Replace fc3 with fc2/rh9 etc.

apt.atrpms.net and apt.physik.fu-berlin.de will be withdrawn by the
end of this year.

Thanks!
-- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net


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Re: [mythtv-users] How to record LiveTV?

[Tom Lichti]

Richard Jones wrote:

I can't figure how to record LiveTV. The online docs suggest that hitting "r" 
will toggle it, but doing so just displays 'Recording ""' in the top left of 
the screen for a few moments. Nothing appears to be written anywhere. If I'm 
in browse mode, the message that appears (written over the "Browse" text) is 
"Record" and it stays until I hit "r" again. Nothing appears to be written 
anywhere though.
 

Did you look in 'Media Library', then 'Watch Recordings'? Assuming you 
are using the Blue theme that is. Others should be similar.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Interesting potential lightweight frontend

[Tom Lichti]

Joseph A. Caputo wrote:


Anybody know anything about this?  It says it runs uClinux...

http://www.pcmicrostore.com/partdetail.aspx?q=p:10503269&SSAID=137667
 

No network interface is a big downside. If someone hacked the firmware 
to allow USB based NIC's, it could work. Plus it doesn't come with a 
hard drive, so you'd need to buy that. I'm having a hard time figuring 
out the actual market for this...


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Re: [mythtv-users] I want to use myth TV, with 5 computers with no live TV - *YET*

[Tom Lichti]

Angel Gabriel wrote:

On 11/14/05, Tom Lichti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Angel Gabriel wrote:



  

I have 5 machines avalible to me - 2 macs, both G5 flat screens..
*real sexy* with the ability to both plug into my nice big fat PA
system... *yes, I have a PA system, because I'm a DJ, and I like to
hear real bass when watching TV* for sound, and look good from a
distance playing DVD's - and three PC's all with 14G hard drives, and
lots of my TV shows on them.

  

Definitely possible, I'm doing it now. But, you could just use NFS and
mount the remote filesystems all onto one master backend. It would
probably be a bit easier that way, in terms of administration (just need
NFS on the slaves, as opposed to many MythTV backends) and you only have
to set it up once. Then the master just streams the files out to the
clients. I personally have a master backend, a slave backend, and a
separate NFS server that serves just videos, and any client can watch
the videos.

Tom


I will run front ends on the macs and my xbox.
  


The thing is I don't have all my recordings on one machine - they are
spread across three machines. And I want to keep diffrent material on
each machine - one for TV series, one for films, and one for err...
stuff that hasn't come out yet! lol
  
I realize that. What I proposed is to export the filesystems on each of 
the 3 machines that have content, and then mount them onto the master 
backend. For instance, my master BE has 120GB of local disk that I use 
for TV recording, and I have an NFS server with 250GB of RAID5 disk that 
stores movies, videos, DVD images, etc. I mount the NFS disk in the 
appropriate place, and now I can share that to the front ends. What you 
could have is something like the following mountpoints on the master BE:


/myth/video/machine1
/myth/video/machine2
/myth/video/machine3

and configure the master BE to have /myth/video as the Video path in the 
MythTV setup. Then it will just recursively find all videos on the three 
nfs servers.


Make sense?

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Re: [mythtv-users] I want to use myth TV, with 5 computers with no live TV - *YET*

[Tom Lichti]

Angel Gabriel wrote:

Okay, I have a problem well, no i don't actually have a problem,
i'd rather term it a lack of knowledge.

I have 5 machines avalible to me - 2 macs, both G5 flat screens..
*real sexy* with the ability to both plug into my nice big fat PA
system... *yes, I have a PA system, because I'm a DJ, and I like to
hear real bass when watching TV* for sound, and look good from a
distance playing DVD's - and three PC's all with 14G hard drives, and
lots of my TV shows on them.

I don't want to watch live TV - I'm thinking of buying a power house
machine specifically for that after christmas - but i do want to be
able to connect to a central database, and pick whatever show i want
to watch, regarless of what machine it resides on.

I'm thinking that maybe, I should install the minimum needed to get
myth install on a seriously stripped down debian install. Then only
install the backend parts of mythtv, on all three PC's.

I'm hoping that it's possible to configure one master backend machine,
and other *slave* backend machines, which allow me to access all my
films seemlessly - If this is possible, I will be SO greatful if
someone could point me in the right direction.
  
Definitely possible, I'm doing it now. But, you could just use NFS and 
mount the remote filesystems all onto one master backend. It would 
probably be a bit easier that way, in terms of administration (just need 
NFS on the slaves, as opposed to many MythTV backends) and you only have 
to set it up once. Then the master just streams the files out to the 
clients. I personally have a master backend, a slave backend, and a 
separate NFS server that serves just videos, and any client can watch 
the videos.


Tom

I will run front ends on the macs and my xbox.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv/gentoo hangs when playing live or recorded video

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:04:06PM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote:
 

I downloaded the XFedora-XOrg.tar.bz2 file from 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54192&package_id=141823 
I copied the font information from the Xebian xorg.conf into the 
Fedora xorg.conf and merged the two module sections so that all of the 
extensions would be available.  Finally I trimmed the modes since I only 
use 640x480x24 anyway.  (I'd paste the resulting xorg.conf into this email 
except I'm at work and my XBox is shut down so I can't ssh into it.  I can 
post it later if you want.)  
 

If you could, that would be most helpful. I only use that resolution as 
well.
   



Here you go.  The server options to manage the screen were in the Fedora
file and I just kept them the way they were.  They should probably be
increased.
 

I now have a working Myth setup on my Xbox, thank you! I haven't got 
lirc working (just have to copy the lirc file over, I believe) but I can 
watch live tv and recordings, so, yay!


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv/gentoo hangs when playing live or recorded video

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:04:06PM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote:
 

I downloaded the XFedora-XOrg.tar.bz2 file from 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54192&package_id=141823 
I copied the font information from the Xebian xorg.conf into the 
Fedora xorg.conf and merged the two module sections so that all of the 
extensions would be available.  Finally I trimmed the modes since I only 
use 640x480x24 anyway.  (I'd paste the resulting xorg.conf into this email 
except I'm at work and my XBox is shut down so I can't ssh into it.  I can 
post it later if you want.)  
 

If you could, that would be most helpful. I only use that resolution as 
well.
   



Here you go.  The server options to manage the screen were in the Fedora
file and I just kept them the way they were.  They should probably be
increased.
 

Oddly enough, the xorg.conf in the tarball above works on my system, but 
yours doesn't. Not that I care...I'm a huge step closer to getting this 
working! One more minor wrinkle to get past...


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Re: [mythtv-users] recommended joysticks or gamepads for xmame and mythgame

[Tom Lichti]

Jesse Guardiani wrote:

Tim Hamer wrote:
logitech usb wireless rumblepads work great right out of the box 
(just not the rumble). on ebay for <$20, but are kinda bulky


Frank Lynch wrote:

I was wondering if someone could recommend a set of gamepads or
joysticks that work well with xmame and mythgame?
I would love to use a pair of wireless gamepads if thats possible. Are
there any gotcha's tips or tricks that I should be aware of. Are there
any issues to be aware of, or do most/all joypads work well under FC4?



I'm about to try some wireless xbox controllers under Gentoo via this 
adapter:

   http://www.xpcgear.com/xboxusbadapter.html
If you have a spare USB cable and xbox breakaway cable, and some 
soldering skills you can make your own Xbox->USB adapter quite easily. 
If you use a USB extension cable as a donor, you can even make a

USB->Xbox adaptor with the leftover parts. Cost me $5 to do both.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv/gentoo hangs when playing live or recorded video

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 09:49:54AM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In the case of the XBox (Xebian 1.1.4 with Debian updates) I managed to
find a site with a Fedora driver for the xbox and so I copied the driver
and xorg.conf over the broken Debian versions and with a little tweaking
managed to get it running again.
  


  
If you could post some details around that, I would be forever in your 
debt.



OK.  My bank account number is... :-)

I downloaded the XFedora-XOrg.tar.bz2 file from 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54192&package_id=141823 
and unpacked it in a temporary directory.  The bzip includes a 
replacement X11 server executable, an nvxbox_drv.o module for the 
server and a replacement xorg.conf file that loads the module.  It also 
includes an install.sh file that will install the new files for you, 
but since Xebian uses a different directory layout than Fedora the 
xorg.conf will not work AS-IS.  I copied the font information from the 
Xebian xorg.conf into the Fedora xorg.conf and merged the two module 
sections so that all of the extensions would be available.  Finally I 
trimmed the modes since I only use 640x480x24 anyway.  (I'd paste the 
resulting xorg.conf into this email except I'm at work and my XBox is 
shut down so I can't ssh into it.  I can post it later if you want.)  
  
If you could, that would be most helpful. I only use that resolution as 
well.
When you start the X server the screen will flicker for a *LONG* time 
but eventually it comes up OK.  The log shows a warning that the V_BIOS 
was not found, but that doesn't seem to inhibit normal use.
  

I think mine did that even with Xfree.
I would *strongly* suggest disabling autologin as well as any login 
scripts that automatically launch X while testing the installation so 
that if the machine locks up you will be able to reboot to a console or 
ssh in to fix it.  I configured my XBox so that it does the autologin 
in runlevel 5, so for testing it was as easy as changing the inittab so 
it boots to runlevel 2.
  


Yep, mine currently does not autologin, so I'm cool there.

Thanks!

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Re: [mythtv-users] export of mythtv NUV files not in DB]

[Tom Lichti]

EC wrote:

Hello,

   Thanks for your help, BTW, I appreciate it.  I run 0.18.1 currently
(on Gentoo).  Anyway, my version of nuvexport does support -i, but seems
only to use the name as a reference to the MythTV database.  It doesn't
seem to matter if the file exists or not.  It just matters that the name
matches a filename in MythTV's active directory of shows.  I also have
tried updating my nuvexport.  I tried nuvexport version:  0.2
0.20051020.svn.  That gives me some DB table fields missing warnings
(SVN, while I'm using 0.18.1), but it still behaves the same.
  
I was referring to mythtranscode using the -i switch, which may only be 
in newer SVN builds. I don't recall exactly when it was added. Have you 
gone the other route by importing the external files into the database? 
Unless you want to switch to SVN, or use a different tool to do the 
conversions, that would be the only other option that I can see.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv/gentoo hangs when playing live or recorded video

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My recent experiences with Debian and MythTV have been a world of hurt.

I have two front-end machines.  Both run Debian-based distros and both
were broken by Debian's decision to kill xfree86 as the Debian xorg
packages don't support the hardware in either of them.

In the case of the XBox (Xebian 1.1.4 with Debian updates) I managed to
find a site with a Fedora driver for the xbox and so I copied the driver
and xorg.conf over the broken Debian versions and with a little tweaking
managed to get it running again.

  
If you could post some details around that, I would be forever in your 
debt. I have an Xbox with what I think is a working version from SVN, 
but my xorg setup does not work, for the same reasons you mentioned. If 
I can fix the xorg driver, I think I will finally have a working Xbox 
frontend, but I've wasted so much time on it lately, I haven't been 
motivated to try and fix that problem.


Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] Proliant server as a backend...

[Tom Lichti]

Asher Schaffer wrote:

On 11/10/05, Pete Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Proliant 8500r
Quad PIII Xeon 700/2MB CPU's
2GB Ram;
2 x 1000SX Fiber NIC;
1 x Dual 10/100 backup NIC
4 x 73GB U160 SCSI drives, RAID (0/1/5);
2 x PVR250 PAL Tuners;



The PVR250 I have will only fit in a 32Bit PCI slot, it isn't keyed
for the 64Bit slots (the 64Bit slot has another keyed position near
the front of the card).  The PVR500 I have is keyed for a 64bit slot
however and works fine in one.

I have a Dell poweredge server with 1 3Ghz Xeon, 1GB of DDR2, 4x300GB
SATA drives, 1PVR250, 1PVR500, and a  gigabit NIC.  In terms of what
you are using it for, it is way overpowered.  Are you planning on
transcoding? that is the only thing that you might ever need that much
horsepower for.  Even commflagging in realtime shouldn't take that
much, an epia can keep up with it, and the most commflagging you will
be doing is 2 at a time unless you plan on adding more cards in the
future.

If you want to cut back the spec, you could reduce the memory, and cut
back to 2 processors.  As for HD space, it isn't that much space, but
you did mention you have 1TB on fiber, so that shouldn't be an issue.
  
I'm guessing that he has the machine already, and got it relatively 
cheaply, so I doubt there is much point in scaling it back, unless he 
can use the parts in another server. I for one would LOVE to have that 
as my backend, but what I have now works relatively well, so I'm not 
complaining. If only my workplace would give away GOOD servers, instead 
of the crap they give away now :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] export of mythtv NUV files not in DB

[Tom Lichti]

EC wrote:

Hmmm, no joy.  It looks like nuvexport uses mythtranscode, which looks
like it takes the show to transcode from the MythTV database.  Since the
shows I wish to transcode aren't in the MythTV database, I cannot get
mythtranscode to access them.  The ffmpeg part of the nuvexport process
should work, though, once I can get the video to it in a form it can
take.
--
My version of mythtranscode allows a -i parameter that lets you specify 
an input file as opposed to querying the database. I am running a test 
against a non-MythTV file right now, and it is processing it. Are you 
running SVN or a point release?


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Re: [mythtv-users] export of mythtv NUV files not in DB

[Tom Lichti]

EC wrote:

Hi,

   I'm trying to transcode several MythTV MPeg4 NUV files to DVD
standard compliant MPeg2.  The files are not in my MythTV database,
which makes nuvexport not so good for this (though I really like it -
it's great for files that are in the DB).

Does anyone have a transcode or mencoder or etc. commandlines/examples
that they like?  My mplayer/mencoder is configured to understand MythTV
streams.

   I've been playing around with this for some time, and am having quite
a bit of trouble.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  
If you run nuvexport in debug mode it shows you all of the command-lines 
it is running, so you could just do that for something in your database, 
get the proper command-lines, and then substitute the non-db filenames 
where appropriate. I haven't tried it, but it should work with a little 
tweaking. Then you could probably write a small wrapper script to take a 
filename as input to semi-automate it.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Error "Configure 3rd-party package repositories"

[Tom Lichti]

Josh Burks wrote:


On 11/9/05, Serge.Zwikker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


First of all I would like to thank everyone that has help me so far.  I am a 
total newbie to Linux and want to learn!

I am following the http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php how to.

So when it tells me to do this:

This is a simple matter of adding a configuration file for each repository in 
/etc/yum.repos.d/. Pre-configured files can be simply downloaded to your system 
like so:

# cd /etc/yum.repos.d/
# wget http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/atrpms.repo
# wget http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/freshrpms.repo

This is what happens when I do it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# cd /etc/yum.repos.d/
bash: cd: /etc/yum.repos.d/: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]#

Any suggestions?

   



I assume you've done the "# yum upgrade". Why not "# mkdir
/etc/yum.repos.d" (actually make the directory by hand) and try again?

Josh
 


Or perhaps make sure that yum is actually installed...

rpm -qa yum

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Re: [mythtv-users] Watch TV button in frontend does not do anything

[Tom Lichti]

Stuart Auchterlonie wrote:

Isaac Richards wrote:
  

On Tuesday 08 November 2005 03:26 pm, Steve Adeff wrote:



On Tuesday 08 November 2005 15:12, Isaac Richards wrote:

  

That doesn't belong on the main page.  If people are going to use svn,
they can do the minimal amount of reading of the svn docs that they would
need to do to figure out how to get a specific revision.

Isaac


but they don't.
  
Adding extra clutter to the front page isn't going to magically transform 
those people into people who read docs. =)





How about printing a message in the frontend log along the lines of

"You are an idiot. Go and read the dev & commits list before
trying to use live tv again!"
  
That might actually work, since everyone who has asked about it has at 
least had the brains to say 'I looked in all the log files and didn't 
see anything to indicate what the problem was'. So maybe if there was 
something there, they might get the idea...


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Re: [mythtv-users] Watch TV button in frontend does not do anything

[Tom Lichti]

Isaac Richards wrote:

On Tuesday 08 November 2005 03:26 pm, Steve Adeff wrote:
  

On Tuesday 08 November 2005 15:12, Isaac Richards wrote:


That doesn't belong on the main page.  If people are going to use svn,
they can do the minimal amount of reading of the svn docs that they would
need to do to figure out how to get a specific revision.

Isaac
  

but they don't.



Adding extra clutter to the front page isn't going to magically transform 
those people into people who read docs. =)


Isaac
  

Making it 24pt bold flashing red might do it... :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

Ben Dash wrote:


I hope that I can provide a silver lining to this
cloud.  I have got my xBox running Gentoo with a 2.6
kernel and xOrg running as a stutter free
mythfrontend.
 

Any chance you could detail how you got to this point?  I am running 2.4 
kernel with xorg, and it doesn't appear to want to play nice.


It works fine as long as I run an xterm, running top, 
in the background.  This isn't a perfect work around,

however, since the xterm is behind the mythfrontend
window it's invisible.
 

I saw that post originally, and although odd, if it works, that's the 
main thing.



Note that my xBox has 128 MB RAM curtesy of
www.xboxrepairguide.com and I also stuck a heatsink on
the nVidia chip.  I'm also running diskless except for
a local FatX swap of 256MB.  This means that I can
still use the xBox for games by booting to the native
BIOS instead of Cromwell.  I have a SmartXX and am
very impressed with their features.
 

I wouldn't mind a memory upgrade, I'll have to check that out. You 
couldn't use the loopback filesystem, or chose not to? I am, and can 
still run games without any problem.



My only problem is that the xBox is a little noisy,
simple to fix by replacing the fan, and I'm yet to get
the xBox remote to work.  Since I have a RF
keyboard/mouse I'm very happy with the current setup
although my wife would really like the remote to work.

 


That I would have to fix for it to be a 'seamless upgrade'... :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

Phill Edwards wrote:


Well, after spending 4 days on it, I've got the packages installed
again, on a fresh install of Xebian. I had to update almost the complete
system toget to this point, so I have no idea if X will work when I get
home. I suspect not, but I've got fingers crossed again...

If this doesn't work, anyone want to buy an Xbox? :)
   



Don't despair. There's always xbmcmythtv on sourceforge. It's not as
feature rich as mythfrontend but it doesn't involve installing any
linux on the Xbox. All you need is Xbox Media Centre. I use it and
it's fine if all you need it for is playback.

 

My plan was to use it as a complete front end, and move the current 
FE/BE into a pure BE role, but that doesn't look like it's going to 
happen. I now, again, have a setup with working Myth, but non-working X. 
It appears that I cannot have both, which kind of defeats the purpose. 
At least I can play games on it.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:47:56AM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote:
 

Well, the packages installed correctly, but something went wrong with 
the video drivers. When I got home and checked it was constantly 
recycling the X server with a message about an unknown video device id, 
   



That's exactly what happened to me when I updated my system.  Debian 
has decided to force us to upgrade from XFree86 to XOrg, so even if 
you don't ask for a new X installation you'll get one anyway unless 
you manually put a hold on a few packages.  Checking the /var/log/X* 
messages for a line with (EE) in it will show you that the new 
Xserver can't load the old nForce video driver.


I went to the nvidia site and downloaded a program that will build 
the correct module, but it requires a properly-configured kernel 
source that matches the running kernel.  I'll try doing that as soon 
as I find documentation explaining how linux boots on the XBox (it's 
neither lilo nor grub) so I can (hopefully) get it all running on 2.6.
 

Well, after spending 4 days on it, I've got the packages installed 
again, on a fresh install of Xebian. I had to update almost the complete 
system toget to this point, so I have no idea if X will work when I get 
home. I suspect not, but I've got fingers crossed again...


If this doesn't work, anyone want to buy an Xbox? :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Watch TV button in frontend does not do anything

[Tom Lichti]

Atif Khan wrote:


That's not really helpful :(

What am I missing?

Regards
Atif


Well, about a dozen or so messages/threads about Live TV not working in 
current SVN, since it's been disabled for the current redesign 
development work. If you are going to build from SVN, you need to read 
the myth commits list, and the myth dev list, so you are on top of these 
things. But, this has been posted here as well. You need to revert to 
SVN 7738 (I believe that's the last revision before Live TV was 
disabled) to get it working again.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Media-MVP Divx? Mpeg-4

[Tom Lichti]

Mike Daugird wrote:

Also, on Windows my friend still has his linksys router be the dhcp server, his MVP finds his windows 
box to get its firmware from it(that box also has the recordings on it. All the linux How-To documents

want me to disable my linksys router's dhcp and run dhcpcd on my linux box.
Why can't linux just serve up the Media-MVP firmware like windows does?
thanks
 

I have everything being done from a Linux server and it works fine. dhcp 
server, tftp server, and firmware and config files are all loaded from a 
Linux server. This is using mvmpc though, not the OEM MediaMVP stuff 
that comes with the unit.


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Re: [mythtv-users] fanless Epia, Mediamvp or network dvd player for frontend?

[Tom Lichti]

Andrew Wilson wrote:


MediaMVP - front runner for me. Cheapest, smallest, already working
with myth, active community, but no Scart or Divx, reports of aspect
ratio problems.
 

Just started playing with mine, and it watches recorded programs well, 
so far. Live TV is, well, almost non-existent, and you can't watch DVD's 
or other media. Didn't notice any aspect ratio problems.



Xbox - From previous discussions, it is probably the best for many
folks - myth compatible s/w, big hacker community, best looking app.
Oh and it also plays games :-)
But not for me - has a fan, is quite big, too expensive.
 

The fan is barely noticeable, it's smaller than all of my other media 
devices, and it runs a full Myth client. You should be able to get used 
ones very cheap soon, with the new Xbox 360 coming out in a few weeks. 
You could probably quite easily re-package this in another box, but I 
haven't looked into that.


My .02

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xebian

[Tom Lichti]

George Nassas wrote:

One important point here is you don't have to build your packages on 
the xbox for them to be installable on the xbox. I built mine on my 
backend which is a puny epia M1. It took a few hours but the end 
result is perfectly usable. I posted my packages a few days ago but 
they're for svn r7600, you'll have to build your own if you want 
0.18.1. To build packages you can search the archives for 
dpkg-buildpackage. I learned everything I know about debian package 
building from this very list.


My xbox was built/hacked in early October. I remember quite a bit of 
thrashing to get myth installed but that was mostly because I didn't 
realize about the myth/plugins Qt incompatibility issue. Once I 
figured that out I lived with just the base myth until I had a second 
to build my own packages.


- George


I couldn't get your packages installed last time I tried. I forget why 
exactly (i've done a lot of stuff since then).


I decided to start with a fresh install of Xebian and compile SVN, but 
that isn't working either. For some reason my qt includes are in a 
different place than where the configure and make files expect them to 
be, and it fails about halfway through. No amount of 
symlinking/copying/environment variables has managed to fix it. I'm 
going to try using your packages again and see how far I get this time.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Frontend for home theater

[Tom Lichti]

Grant Emsley wrote:


On 11/4/05, Michael Tiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



At work we just got a $700 computer projector that looks fantastic. I
hooked my laptop up to it while watching a widescreen DVD and it even 
seems

to support the widescreen format quite nicely.

So, I'm thinking about getting one of these for my basement. My plan 
would
be to mount it on the ceiling and project it against a wall. I'd also 
like

to hook a very simple MythTV frontend up to it. My plan would be to have
only a DVD reader, small hardrive (if necessary), network and video 
card in
it (i.e. no tuner cards and no direct live TV feed to the 
projector...only

live TV from a backend over the network).



The only thing I'd caution you about a projector is bulb life/cost.  I 
know the newer projectors have a longer bulb life than they used to, 
but last time I was looking into it replacement bulbs were at least a 
couple hundred dollars.


Good advice. I bought an older projector on ebay for about $200, 
thinking I was saving money. It was only after I got it and realized 
that the bulb is well used that I found out the replacement bulbs are 
$325...luckily it hasn't gone on me yet, but I'm on borrowed time already...


In hindsight, a new $700 projector would probably be a smarter purchase. 
Some of them use overhead projector bulbs that cost about $12.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Breaking Live-TV

[Tom Lichti]

R. Geoffrey Newbury wrote:


On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:00:15 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:

 

In about a half hour, I'll be checking in code that completely disables Live 
TV.  This is so I can work on #340:


http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/340

The 'Live-TV' menu item will simply not respond to hitting it.  If you want to 
see how things are progressing, just remove the 'return;' at line 243 of 
programs/mythfrontend/main.cpp.  That will reenable livetv, but it'll be 
really quite broken. =)


   



Its Saturday afternoon, and I just downloaded from svn.  7762 I think..
What revision was this change put into, please?

 


7739: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7739
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:47:56AM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote:
 

Well, the packages installed correctly, but something went wrong with 
the video drivers. When I got home and checked it was constantly 
recycling the X server with a message about an unknown video device id, 
   



That's exactly what happened to me when I updated my system.  Debian 
has decided to force us to upgrade from XFree86 to XOrg, so even if 
you don't ask for a new X installation you'll get one anyway unless 
you manually put a hold on a few packages.  Checking the /var/log/X* 
messages for a line with (EE) in it will show you that the new 
Xserver can't load the old nForce video driver.
 

Well, I tried to not let it upgrade any of the X stuff, but I must have 
missed something.


I went to the nvidia site and downloaded a program that will build 
the correct module, but it requires a properly-configured kernel 
source that matches the running kernel.  I'll try doing that as soon 
as I find documentation explaining how linux boots on the XBox (it's 
neither lilo nor grub) so I can (hopefully) get it all running on 2.6.


 


I was going to try that, maybe I'll get adventurous tonight.

Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD Stuttering

[Tom Lichti]

Darren Black wrote:




On 11/3/05, *Michael T. Dean* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


On 11/03/05 13:17, Tom Lichti wrote:

> Darren Black wrote:
>
>> It's kinda odd... but this has simply never worked for me. My
>> previous myth setup on FC3 and my current FC4 installation simply
>> refuse to allow realtime scheduling of the display thread. I
>> installed using Jarod's guide (and thus Axel's rpms) but despite
>> carrying out the instructions above (using the appropriate path
since
>> the rpms don't install to the same place) I still get this message:
>>
>>  Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> I get the same thing. I've done everything right, still get the
same
> message you do.

selinux?

Mike
___


No sir. It's disabled...


Well, at first I didn't even think it was on the box, but it is. I can't 
see any evidence that it is enabled. I have this in dmesg:


Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux:  Initializing.
SELinux:  Starting in permissive mode

How can I completely remove it?

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Re: [mythtv-users] HD Stuttering

[Tom Lichti]

Darren Black wrote:




On 10/31/05, *Michael T. Dean* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


tgate wrote:

> On Oct 31, 2005, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > wrote:
>
>> I found that setting mythfrontend to be suid-root made the
stuttering go
>>
>> away.
>>
> Do I need to do anything special to make this happen?  Or is it
> literally a matter of logging in as root and running
mythfrontend?  Or
> perhaps "sudo mythfrontend"?

http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4


See the section "Enabling real-time scheduling of the display thread."

Mike


It's kinda odd... but this has simply never worked for me. My previous 
myth setup on FC3 and my current FC4 installation simply refuse to 
allow realtime scheduling of the display thread. I installed using 
Jarod's guide (and thus Axel's rpms) but despite carrying out the 
instructions above (using the appropriate path since the rpms don't 
install to the same place) I still get this message:


 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.

Any suggestions?


I get the same thing. I've done everything right, still get the same 
message you do.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Simultaneous recordings fail spectacularly---why? [part 1]

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Does -anyone- have a working KnoppMyth R5A22 setup w/more than one
PVR-250 in the same machine?

 

Nothing real helpful, just a data point: I have two R5A16 backends, one 
with two PVR-250's, and one with two Avermedia 179's, both running 
current SVN, and they are both running fine, recording consecutively 
and/or concurrently. All my cards share IRQ's as well. On one of the 
backends I have done a complete apt-get upgrade, one of them I have not, 
and both still work fine.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

Tom Lichti wrote:


George Nassas wrote:


On 2-Nov-05, at 3:31 PM, Tom Lichti wrote:

but am I right in assuming that mythtv is just a container for all 
the other myth packages? i.e. if I have all the other packages 
installed, I don't need mythtv?


Yes, that's right. dpkg -L says without it you'll be missing the 
following files, nothing you can't live without:



Excellent. Crossed fingers! Of course, by the time I get this working, 
SVN will have another protocol change and I'll have to do it all over 
again... :)


Tom


Well, the packages installed correctly, but something went wrong with 
the video drivers. When I got home and checked it was constantly 
recycling the X server with a message about an unknown video device id, 
and trying agpgart with an unsupported option. I don't recall changing 
anything to do with X, so I don't understand why this started happening, 
but it was obviously something I did yesterday that caused it because it 
was fine in the morning. At this point I tried the Fedora Core 4 install 
that was posted here a few weeks ago but that did nothing, although I 
may not have done it right, the directions are very vague. I may try 
again with a fresh Xebian install and see what happens.


One step forward, two giant steps back...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

George Nassas wrote:


On 2-Nov-05, at 3:31 PM, Tom Lichti wrote:

but am I right in assuming that mythtv is just a container for all 
the other myth packages? i.e. if I have all the other packages 
installed, I don't need mythtv?



Yes, that's right. dpkg -L says without it you'll be missing the 
following files, nothing you can't live without:


/usr/share/doc/mythtv/README
/usr/share/doc/mythtv/README.Debian
/usr/share/doc/mythtv/AUTHORS
/usr/share/doc/mythtv/FAQ
/usr/share/doc/mythtv/UPGRADING
/usr/share/doc/mythtv/copyright
/usr/share/doc/mythtv/keys.txt.gz
/usr/share/doc/mythtv/changelog.Debian.gz


Excellent. Crossed fingers! Of course, by the time I get this working, 
SVN will have another protocol change and I'll have to do it all over 
again... :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

George Nassas wrote:


On 2-Nov-05, at 12:36 PM, Tom Lichti wrote:

So you are using XFree, or xorg? I am using the Xebian setup that was 
posted a week or so ago by Dan Roberts (?) . That one is 2.4.13 
kernel, with XFree86. I tried using your debs last night and ran into 
the qt-mt lib issue.



I'm running XFree, according to apt-show-versions it's 
xserver-xfree86/stable 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge. Also, I have 
libqt3c102-mt installed. On top of that I have those packages I posted 
the other day and it all seems to get along.


When you say you ran into the issue, what happened? I recall having 
some trouble myself and taking a few tries to get everything to 
install. One thing I did was to purge mythtv-backend and 
mythtv-database. That removed the requirement for mysql-server which I 
purged. Looking over my aptitude log there were some other removals 
like lpr and firefox but I don't know if they were significant. At 
some point I managed to take out the last qt-mt dependancy and that 
cleared the way for the myth frontend and plugin packages.


I hope this is helpful. In any case I guess the point is it can be 
done, you just have to bang away for a while.


I think I've got it. I removed all the old myth stuff, added 
libqt3c102-mt, and then the myth packages you uploaded. I can't get 
mythbackend to install (not that I need it, this is a frontend only) 
which also means the mythtv package won't install, but am I right in 
assuming that mythtv is just a container for all the other myth 
packages? i.e. if I have all the other packages installed, I don't need 
mythtv? If so, then I should be pretty much done! I won't know until I 
get home if it actually worked or not, but it looks good so far... :)


Thanks!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

George Nassas wrote:


On 2-Nov-05, at 12:08 PM, Tom Lichti wrote:

Well that kind of sucks. I guess my Xbox will just be for games then, 
since if it's not fully functional as a Myth frontend, then it's not 
useful at all.



I think this is only true if you upgrade your X. I'm sticking with the 
one that ships with Xebian and using the homegrown myth packages I 
posted the other day and everything is hunky dory.


- George


So you are using XFree, or xorg? I am using the Xebian setup that was 
posted a week or so ago by Dan Roberts (?) . That one is 2.4.13 kernel, 
with XFree86. I tried using your debs last night and ran into the qt-mt 
lib issue. Should I remove all the existing mythtv packages and start 
fresh, perhaps?


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:49:30PM -0500, Tom Lichti wrote:
 

Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list please? I can't seem to get all 
dependencies met, specifically libqt3c102-mt.
   



That package has caused me no end of grief.  Debian ("testing", I 
think) has decided to drop support for the XFree86 xserver and have 
transition packages in place to force people to switch to XOrg (ie: 
you ask for one server but get the other).  As part of that forced 
upgrade, libqt3c102-mt has been replaced by libqt3-mt.  The new 
libqt3-mt is not backwards compatible (according to the 
depends/provides list).  Similarly, rather than creating an in-place 
upgrade for MythTV, the libqt3-mt version is a whole new package that 
conflicts with the libqt3c102-mt version, requiring you to uninstall 
MythTV before the upgrade and then reinstall afterwards.  So far only 
the core MythTV packages (front, back, common, doc, database and web) 
are available, so after the upgrade you don't have mythvideo, 
mythdvd, etc.


My back-end and mythweb server are working just fine, but the XBox 
doesn't have a video driver for XOrg and my desktop machine (Radeon 
card) runs everything else and handles the MythTV menus OK but locks 
the machine up solid if I try to watch any recordings.  The backend 
machine can't run nuvexport as it gets into a loop waiting for 
mythtranscode to setup the fifos.  I don't have any idea what that's 
all about.
 

Well that kind of sucks. I guess my Xbox will just be for games then, 
since if it's not fully functional as a Myth frontend, then it's not 
useful at all.


Darn it.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

George Nassas wrote:


On 30-Oct-05, at 9:16 PM, Norm wrote:

Thanks!  Downloaded -- sorry about the upload not working -- will 
need to check that...



no probs. I forgot to write a few notes about the debs. First, they 
require libexif to be installed, the normal debian packages don't but 
somehow that option got configured into my build. Second, for a first 
install I found it best to create a local archive so that the 
dependancies get taken care of automatically. To do so add something 
like "deb file:/path/to/debs ./" to /etc/sources.list and, in that 
directory, do a dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages. Then 
aptitude update and install mythfrontend mythvideo and so on and you 
should be good to go.


- George


Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list please? I can't seem to get all 
dependencies met, specifically libqt3c102-mt.


Thanks!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

Ben Dash wrote:


--- Tom Lichti wrote:
 


Ben Dash wrote:
   


xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir*
crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 61, 0 Nov  1 01:26
 


/dev/lirc0
   


srw-rw-rw-  1 root root 0 Nov  1 01:26
 


/dev/lircd
   


Any ideas?
 


Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device.
I forget exactly 
what machinations I had to go through to get it
working for me, but I 
know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv
for ownership of the 
files.
   



Could anyone else please confirm what they have as
owner and group for their /dev/lir* files?

Since it's mode 666 I would think that I'd be okay but
if have to admit that I've seen some strange problems
to do with ownership, even mode 777, so this is
certainly possible.

Please let me know
 

Well, my xbox isn't up at the moment so I can't check that, but on the 
frontend that I had to build lirc for I have this:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls -la /dev/lirc*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 5 Oct  5 19:29 /dev/lirc -> ttyS0
srw-rw-rw-  1 root root 0 Nov  1 08:16 /dev/lircd
prw-r--r--  1 root root 0 Oct  5 19:29 /dev/lircm


Obviously it's a serial port IR receiver.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

Ben Dash wrote:


Unfortunately, although I'm sure I'm close, the xBox
DVD remote still isn't doing anything.  irw just hangs
and shows no keypresses and mode2 still claims that
/dev/lirc0 doesn't exist:

xbox ~ # ls -la /dev/lir*
crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 61, 0 Nov  1 01:26 /dev/lirc0
srw-rw-rw-  1 root root 0 Nov  1 01:26 /dev/lircd

Any ideas?
 

Could be a permissions problem on the lirc0 device. I forget exactly 
what machinations I had to go through to get it working for me, but I 
know it wasn't root:root. Maybe try mythtv:mythtv for ownership of the 
files.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

George Nassas wrote:


On 31-Oct-05, at 2:18 PM, Tom Lichti wrote:

I can't get to rapidshare.de, are they down? If someone could host 
them again, I'd be eternally grateful.



Just tried it and they're up. I've used them for ages and they're 
pretty reliable.


- George

P.S. I'm not affiliated with ...


Figures. NOW it's working...I was getting 'Connection refused' messages 
a couple of minutes ago.


Thanks!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on Xbox

[Tom Lichti]

George Nassas wrote:


On 30-Oct-05, at 8:45 PM, Norm wrote:


You can upload them to www.dressler.ca (anonymous ftp works).



Looks like it doesn't, I'm not allowed to create files. There's a tar 
of all the debs here:


http://rapidshare.de/files/6987309/xebian.myth.tar.html

click their free download button, wait 25 seconds or so and then you 
get a d/l link. Rapid keeps things around until 30 days have passed 
without a download at which point I'm sure they'll be long obsolete.


I can't get to rapidshare.de, are they down? If someone could host them 
again, I'd be eternally grateful.


Thanks!
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