[neonixie-l] IN 9 / IN 13 bar graph tubes clock
Hi there, ive been wondering, how precise can you be when you drive those tubes? Ive been thinking recently that they would make a really nice clock! Having six or seven tubes next to each other. The thing i need to know is if its possible with these tubes to have ten precisely given points. That way you could use them for clock pretty easily. You could even achieve neat effect if the transitions between every number would be smooth so the glow would simply grow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/vszCT0DQ_M0J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies
Hi, oh, I started reading myself into the topic in November, but I had several difficulties on the way. I am currently writing down my experiences so far, I will create a new section for that on my website, but it will take another two weeks or so. I have not managed to create a glow lampe or something yet, but I am confident that I will be able to do so in the next month. I work with soda lime glass and a primitive soldering torch that you cal buy in any hardware store, and I even managed to create simple pinch seals that are vacuum tight. I have some Neon here in a pressure bottle, but I have some vacuum problems in my setup. The pump is a two-stage rotary pump that goes down to 5E-3 mbar, but I still need a needle valve to insert the Neon gas into the tube and a proper tube connection. If you count the buts in my sentences you can see that there is a lot of stuff to figure out :-) It is very exciting, but also quite time consuming. At the moment I am building a better power supply with a little more juice; 300V and 10mA are a little wimpy. Jens And how are you doing with your homemade nixies? I didnt know you also tried to make some util i read your comment on that video. On Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:36:27 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Nice pictures! I have a video somewhere around here with a broken CD47 in a vacuum bell filled with 2%Ar98%Ne, the pressures are in the same range (but only down to 3 Torr or so). Jens It's my old experiment, but I think that it would be helpful: http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.htm http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/VQUfcDFc1cIJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies
Ah i see, so thats why i havent found anything on your site. The good thing, i guess, is that you already have the neon somewhat sorted out. How much did the neon cost you? On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:38:00 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, oh, I started reading myself into the topic in November, but I had several difficulties on the way. I am currently writing down my experiences so far, I will create a new section for that on my website, but it will take another two weeks or so. I have not managed to create a glow lampe or something yet, but I am confident that I will be able to do so in the next month. I work with soda lime glass and a primitive soldering torch that you cal buy in any hardware store, and I even managed to create simple pinch seals that are vacuum tight. I have some Neon here in a pressure bottle, but I have some vacuum problems in my setup. The pump is a two-stage rotary pump that goes down to 5E-3 mbar, but I still need a needle valve to insert the Neon gas into the tube and a proper tube connection. If you count the buts in my sentences you can see that there is a lot of stuff to figure out :-) It is very exciting, but also quite time consuming. At the moment I am building a better power supply with a little more juice; 300V and 10mA are a little wimpy. Jens And how are you doing with your homemade nixies? I didnt know you also tried to make some util i read your comment on that video. On Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:36:27 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Nice pictures! I have a video somewhere around here with a broken CD47 in a vacuum bell filled with 2%Ar98%Ne, the pressures are in the same range (but only down to 3 Torr or so). Jens It's my old experiment, but I think that it would be helpful: http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/VQUfcDFc1cIJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/pEaqF1pbKwoJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies
Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) The pressure regulator is quite espensive, though, 130EUR. But the good thing is you only need to buy that once. Jens Ah i see, so thats why i havent found anything on your site. The good thing, i guess, is that you already have the neon somewhat sorted out. How much did the neon cost you? On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:38:00 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, oh, I started reading myself into the topic in November, but I had several difficulties on the way. I am currently writing down my experiences so far, I will create a new section for that on my website, but it will take another two weeks or so. I have not managed to create a glow lampe or something yet, but I am confident that I will be able to do so in the next month. I work with soda lime glass and a primitive soldering torch that you cal buy in any hardware store, and I even managed to create simple pinch seals that are vacuum tight. I have some Neon here in a pressure bottle, but I have some vacuum problems in my setup. The pump is a two-stage rotary pump that goes down to 5E-3 mbar, but I still need a needle valve to insert the Neon gas into the tube and a proper tube connection. If you count the buts in my sentences you can see that there is a lot of stuff to figure out :-) It is very exciting, but also quite time consuming. At the moment I am building a better power supply with a little more juice; 300V and 10mA are a little wimpy. Jens And how are you doing with your homemade nixies? I didnt know you also tried to make some util i read your comment on that video. On Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:36:27 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Nice pictures! I have a video somewhere around here with a broken CD47 in a vacuum bell filled with 2%Ar98%Ne, the pressures are in the same range (but only down to 3 Torr or so). Jens It's my old experiment, but I think that it would be helpful: http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.htm http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/VQUfcDFc1cIJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/VQUfcDFc1cIJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/pEaqF1pbKwoJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies
Yea, i know ist expensive so i wanted to know how much you eventually payed for it. On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:56:42 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) The pressure regulator is quite espensive, though, 130EUR. But the good thing is you only need to buy that once. Jens Ah i see, so thats why i havent found anything on your site. The good thing, i guess, is that you already have the neon somewhat sorted out. How much did the neon cost you? On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:38:00 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, oh, I started reading myself into the topic in November, but I had several difficulties on the way. I am currently writing down my experiences so far, I will create a new section for that on my website, but it will take another two weeks or so. I have not managed to create a glow lampe or something yet, but I am confident that I will be able to do so in the next month. I work with soda lime glass and a primitive soldering torch that you cal buy in any hardware store, and I even managed to create simple pinch seals that are vacuum tight. I have some Neon here in a pressure bottle, but I have some vacuum problems in my setup. The pump is a two-stage rotary pump that goes down to 5E-3 mbar, but I still need a needle valve to insert the Neon gas into the tube and a proper tube connection. If you count the buts in my sentences you can see that there is a lot of stuff to figure out :-) It is very exciting, but also quite time consuming. At the moment I am building a better power supply with a little more juice; 300V and 10mA are a little wimpy. Jens And how are you doing with your homemade nixies? I didnt know you also tried to make some util i read your comment on that video. On Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:36:27 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Nice pictures! I have a video somewhere around here with a broken CD47 in a vacuum bell filled with 2%Ar98%Ne, the pressures are in the same range (but only down to 3 Torr or so). Jens It's my old experiment, but I think that it would be helpful: http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/VQUfcDFc1cIJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/pEaqF1pbKwoJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/5rMEF9cd5RIJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!
Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to the group heavyleaded! Michel On May 21, 11:07 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today (21st May 2012) we welcome our 500th member, heavyleaded, to the new group! Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!
Any gifts are always welcome. lol Just glad to be in the group. Keith On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Cobra007 mic...@xiac.com wrote: Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to the group heavyleaded! Michel On May 21, 11:07 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today (21st May 2012) we welcome our 500th member, heavyleaded, to the new group! Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies
About the neon, I am in touch with a salesman from Messer group, he offered me probably the same bottle - Cangas 1l 12 bar bottle, 12 litres of neon, 50 eur + VAT. They offer pressure regulator what can be evacuated for 200eur... and simple one for 100 eur.. Are you sure You will be able to use this cheaper one? I am afraid of leaking or air contamination.. :-( Dalibor 2012/5/21 kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com Yea, i know ist expensive so i wanted to know how much you eventually payed for it. On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:56:42 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) The pressure regulator is quite espensive, though, 130EUR. But the good thing is you only need to buy that once. Jens Ah i see, so thats why i havent found anything on your site. The good thing, i guess, is that you already have the neon somewhat sorted out. How much did the neon cost you? On Monday, May 21, 2012 12:38:00 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, oh, I started reading myself into the topic in November, but I had several difficulties on the way. I am currently writing down my experiences so far, I will create a new section for that on my website, but it will take another two weeks or so. I have not managed to create a glow lampe or something yet, but I am confident that I will be able to do so in the next month. I work with soda lime glass and a primitive soldering torch that you cal buy in any hardware store, and I even managed to create simple pinch seals that are vacuum tight. I have some Neon here in a pressure bottle, but I have some vacuum problems in my setup. The pump is a two-stage rotary pump that goes down to 5E-3 mbar, but I still need a needle valve to insert the Neon gas into the tube and a proper tube connection. If you count the buts in my sentences you can see that there is a lot of stuff to figure out :-) It is very exciting, but also quite time consuming. At the moment I am building a better power supply with a little more juice; 300V and 10mA are a little wimpy. Jens And how are you doing with your homemade nixies? I didnt know you also tried to make some util i read your comment on that video. On Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:36:27 PM UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote: Nice pictures! I have a video somewhere around here with a broken CD47 in a vacuum bell filled with 2%Ar98%Ne, the pressures are in the same range (but only down to 3 Torr or so). Jens It's my old experiment, but I think that it would be helpful: http://tubedevices.com/alek/**pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.**htmhttp://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/wyladowania/wyladowania_e.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msg/neonixie-l/-/VQUfcDFc1cIJhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/VQUfcDFc1cIJ . To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GBhttp://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msg/neonixie-l/-/pEaqF1pbKwoJhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/pEaqF1pbKwoJ . To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GBhttp://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/5rMEF9cd5RIJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!
Some reports say that he won a *Blue magic nixie watch* :D On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:12:03 PM UTC+1, Cobra007 wrote: Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to the group heavyleaded! Michel On May 21, 11:07 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today (21st May 2012) we welcome our 500th member, heavyleaded, to the new group! Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/Y66rNO3BDOkJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!
That is a very cool watch! On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:36 AM, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: Some reports say that he won a *Blue magic nixie watch* :D On Monday, May 21, 2012 2:12:03 PM UTC+1, Cobra007 wrote: Wow, does he deserve a free Nixie Clock or other (smaller) gift? Welcome to the group heavyleaded! Michel On May 21, 11:07 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today (21st May 2012) we welcome our 500th member, heavyleaded, to the new group! Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/Y66rNO3BDOkJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies
Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) You should be able to do better than that if you don't need that much neon. http://www.montroy.com/catalog/main/itemdetail.app?item_no=NEON It's 0.9 liter of neon at atmospheric pressure for about US$20. This way, you can get away without a pressure regulator or needle valve. Fuse the flask onto a bit of tubing on your manifold with two stopcocks near each other*. Once you're pumped down, spin the one closer to the flask a half turn (which will quickly open and close it again). This will trap a little bit of neon between the two stopcocks, at a pressure somewhat below atmosphere (this will drop as the neon is used). Then meter the neon into the manifold with the second stopcock. Since you're partitioning out maybe half a milliliter of neon at atmospheric pressure or less into a manifold that's considerably larger, even if you just leave the second stopcock open, you'll already be down to something in the useful range. If you want more pressure, close the second stopcock and spin the first again. This is not a precision setup by any means, but for those of you who'd like to play with neon on the cheap, it's a reasonable way to get going without spending too much money. * These glass flasks have a thin glass seal to keep the neon in. The usual way to open one is to put a clean piece of ferrous metal in the tubing before sealing it up. Then open both stopcocks and run your vacuum pump until the manifold is pumped down good. Then close the stopcocks and use a magnet to yank your metal chunk over to break the glass seal. If your metal chunk isn't clean, your neon will be contaminated. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!
Nick -- how does that stack up against our membership from the Yahoo days? Terry On May 21, 8:07 am, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Today (21st May 2012) we welcome our 500th member, heavyleaded, to the new group! Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pressure and kind of gas in nixies
Nice solution, but I am afraid I would destroy the flask and let the neon go out ;-) If I were from US I would try it, but because I am from EU where we have nothing like this or if we have, it is several times the price in US, I will use a cangas bottle :-( The solution with magnet is very nice! Dalibor 2012/5/21 John Rehwinkel jreh...@mac.com Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) You should be able to do better than that if you don't need that much neon. http://www.montroy.com/catalog/main/itemdetail.app?item_no=NEON It's 0.9 liter of neon at atmospheric pressure for about US$20. This way, you can get away without a pressure regulator or needle valve. Fuse the flask onto a bit of tubing on your manifold with two stopcocks near each other*. Once you're pumped down, spin the one closer to the flask a half turn (which will quickly open and close it again). This will trap a little bit of neon between the two stopcocks, at a pressure somewhat below atmosphere (this will drop as the neon is used). Then meter the neon into the manifold with the second stopcock. Since you're partitioning out maybe half a milliliter of neon at atmospheric pressure or less into a manifold that's considerably larger, even if you just leave the second stopcock open, you'll already be down to something in the useful range. If you want more pressure, close the second stopcock and spin the first again. This is not a precision setup by any means, but for those of you who'd like to play with neon on the cheap, it's a reasonable way to get going without spending too much money. * These glass flasks have a thin glass seal to keep the neon in. The usual way to open one is to put a clean piece of ferrous metal in the tubing before sealing it up. Then open both stopcocks and run your vacuum pump until the manifold is pumped down good. Then close the stopcocks and use a magnet to yank your metal chunk over to break the glass seal. If your metal chunk isn't clean, your neon will be contaminated. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: A small milestone: 500 members!
The old group had 2209 members going way back (2002 or so). Many (most) were passive/defunct. I had the choice of inviting all the members of the old group back again (we have their email addresses) but it would have been a pain and so we took it as an opportunity to cleanse the list to only active(ish) members... Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/vVQhf62u4kkJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Neon Gas
On 05/21/2012 07:56 AM, jb-electronics wrote: Neon is quite expensive; about 50EUR for 12 liters. It is a pressurized bottle at 12bar, so it almost looks like a can of hair spray ;-) Wow!!! That's about three times what it costs here. Your description of the container makes me think that you're buying it from Eurocom. They're always very high on their products. I buy my gas from SpectraGas, http://www.spectragases.com/content/PG.htm Click on the neon link. I buy in the 400 liter D1 size disposable tank. That's essentially a lifetime supply in my shop. Inert compressed gas can be shipped via the postal service so it might pay you to order it from the US and have it mailed. Last time I bought, neon was $1 a liter. The pressure regulator is quite expensive, though, 130EUR. But the good thing is you only need to buy that once. I don't use a pressure regulator but if you're using the Eurocom tank, a proprietary fitting is necessary. The SpectraGas D1 tank uses the standard CGA-580 connector. What I have on mine is a mating fitting, a pressure gauge and a needle valve. After evacuation, I slowly crack the tank valve until about 10 psi of gas is contained in the space between the tank and the needle valve. I then work with this low pressure gas until it is depleted. The tube of the bourdon tube gauge serves as much of the reservoir. This technique serves two purposes. One, it lets me work with low pressure gas using cheap needle valves. Two, if I forget and leave the main vacuum valve open, I don't deplete the whole tank. Just the low pressure reservoir. John -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains, Occupied TN http://www.neon-john.com-- email from here http://www.johndearmond.com -- Best damned Blog on the net PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas
Hi, Click on the neon link. I buy in the 400 liter D1 size disposable tank. That's essentially a lifetime supply in my shop. Inert compressed gas can be shipped via the postal service so it might pay you to order it from the US and have it mailed. thanks for the link! But I seriously doubt anyone is willing to ship a gas container that is above 100 bar pressure - that is really dangerous if shipped normally, and really expensive, if shipped properly, I am afraid. Last time I bought, neon was $1 a liter. That's nice, but something I have to dream about. The manifold solution is quite interesting, too, but I am afraid I am not good enough for it just now. Jens The pressure regulator is quite expensive, though, 130EUR. But the good thing is you only need to buy that once. I don't use a pressure regulator but if you're using the Eurocom tank, a proprietary fitting is necessary. The SpectraGas D1 tank uses the standard CGA-580 connector. What I have on mine is a mating fitting, a pressure gauge and a needle valve. After evacuation, I slowly crack the tank valve until about 10 psi of gas is contained in the space between the tank and the needle valve. I then work with this low pressure gas until it is depleted. The tube of the bourdon tube gauge serves as much of the reservoir. This technique serves two purposes. One, it lets me work with low pressure gas using cheap needle valves. Two, if I forget and leave the main vacuum valve open, I don't deplete the whole tank. Just the low pressure reservoir. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
Hello Everyone, Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/vLjOmgXdkoQJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? The usual way is to soak them in warm-hot water, the coating peels off nicely after a few minutes. I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) I don't have any of those tubes, I have no idea what that would do to the back printing. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
On 5/21/12 11:07 AM, heavyleaded wrote: Hello Everyone, Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/vLjOmgXdkoQJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. The Philips tubes I have had the printing done *over* the red coating, so you may not be able to achieve your goal. The red coating comes off by soaking in hot water. -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
Thanks John, I appreciate the advise. Keith On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:12 PM, John Rehwinkel jreh...@mac.com wrote: Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? The usual way is to soak them in warm-hot water, the coating peels off nicely after a few minutes. I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) I don't have any of those tubes, I have no idea what that would do to the back printing. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
Sounds good. The Tesla tubes are the reverse of that. So my hope is that the water will only remove the red. I will find out soon enough and post the results. Keith On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:15 PM, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: On 5/21/12 11:07 AM, heavyleaded wrote: Hello Everyone, Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/neonixie-l/-/vLjOmgXdkoQJhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/vLjOmgXdkoQJ . To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comneonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GBhttp://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB . The Philips tubes I have had the printing done *over* the red coating, so you may not be able to achieve your goal. The red coating comes off by soaking in hot water. -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com neonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GBhttp://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Hi there, i just recieved this email, it looks really suspicious. vitaly.n...@yandex.ua Hi I took your email from the nixies forums. Iam not a cheater you can check my reputation asking about me by Dieter Waechter or Juergen Grau. I have a good stock so I need new customers I am a supplier from Ukraine. I can offer you many tubes of IN and IV types for reasonable prices. ( I have IN-1, IN-2, IN-3, IN-4, IN-8, IN-8-2, IN-9, IN-12, IN-13, IN-14, IN-15, IN-16, IN-17, IN-19, and many types of IV-tubes like IV-1, IV-2, IV-3, IV-4, IV-18 and other. I work with companies like PV Electronics, Nocrotec, Juergen Grau, so I have clear reputation. If you have interest in please let me know. Best regards Vitaly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/r6Heopw2gWYJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
My first instinct would be to think not, as it is just too easy to do what he suggests and to check with Dieter and Juergen. I would certainly do that, and then proceed with caution. Order small quantities and or small monetary amounts first. See if he will list on Ebay where you will have buyer protection. I've had to use the buyer protection myself perhaps fifteen times out of the 1500 or so purchases that I have bought on Ebay in the last twelve years, always with 100% success in getting my payment back. Ira. On 5/21/2012 12:04 PM, kay486 wrote: Hi there, i just recieved this email, it looks really suspicious. vitaly.n...@yandex.ua Hi I took your email from the nixies forums. Iam not a cheater you can check my reputation asking about me by Dieter Waechter or Juergen Grau. I have a good stock so I need new customers I am a supplier from Ukraine. I can offer you many tubes of IN and IV types for reasonable prices. ( I have IN-1, IN-2, IN-3, IN-4, IN-8, IN-8-2, IN-9, IN-12, IN-13, IN-14, IN-15, IN-16, IN-17, IN-19, and many types of IV-tubes like IV-1, IV-2, IV-3, IV-4, IV-18 and other. I work with companies like PV Electronics, Nocrotec, Juergen Grau, so I have clear reputation. If you have interest in please let me know. Best regards Vitaly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/r6Heopw2gWYJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. attachment: IRACOSALES.vcf
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Well, im not going to order anything from him. Just the fact that he didnt post here or tubeclockdb.com first is really suspicious. On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:31:01 PM UTC+1, I wrote: My first instinct would be to think not, as it is just too easy to do what he suggests and to check with Dieter and Juergen. I would certainly do that, and then proceed with caution. Order small quantities and or small monetary amounts first. See if he will list on Ebay where you will have buyer protection. I've had to use the buyer protection myself perhaps fifteen times out of the 1500 or so purchases that I have bought on Ebay in the last twelve years, always with 100% success in getting my payment back. Ira. On 5/21/2012 12:04 PM, kay486 wrote: Hi there, i just recieved this email, it looks really suspicious. vitaly.n...@yandex.ua Hi I took your email from the nixies forums. Iam not a cheater you can check my reputation asking about me by Dieter Waechter or Juergen Grau. I have a good stock so I need new customers I am a supplier from Ukraine. I can offer you many tubes of IN and IV types for reasonable prices. ( I have IN-1, IN-2, IN-3, IN-4, IN-8, IN-8-2, IN-9, IN-12, IN-13, IN-14, IN-15, IN-16, IN-17, IN-19, and many types of IV-tubes like IV-1, IV-2, IV-3, IV-4, IV-18 and other. I work with companies like PV Electronics, Nocrotec, Juergen Grau, so I have clear reputation. If you have interest in please let me know. Best regards Vitaly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/r6Heopw2gWYJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/b0n2WsJ4MrEJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
Actually, I have dealt with him before as well with great results. I don't like to vouch for anyone, so can't for him, but I did not have an issue. If you were thinking of ordering, then why not ask Dieter or Juergen. If they say good, then you are pretty assured to have no issue. Michail In a message dated 5/21/2012 12:35:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, luckyl...@gmail.com writes: Well, im not going to order anything from him. Just the fact that he didnt post here or tubeclockdb.com first is really suspicious. On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:31:01 PM UTC+1, I wrote: My first instinct would be to think not, as it is just too easy to do what he suggests and to check with Dieter and Juergen. I would certainly do that, and then proceed with caution. Order small quantities and or small monetary amounts first. See if he will list on Ebay where you will have buyer protection. I've had to use the buyer protection myself perhaps fifteen times out of the 1500 or so purchases that I have bought on Ebay in the last twelve years, always with 100% success in getting my payment back. Ira. On 5/21/2012 12:04 PM, kay486 wrote: Hi there, i just recieved this email, it looks really suspicious. _vitaly.nart@yandex.ua_ (mailto:vitaly.n...@yandex.ua) Hi I took your email from the nixies forums. Iam not a cheater you can check my reputation asking about me by Dieter Waechter or Juergen Grau. I have a good stock so I need new customers I am a supplier from Ukraine. I can offer you many tubes of IN and IV types for reasonable prices. ( I have IN-1, IN-2, IN-3, IN-4, IN-8, IN-8-2, IN-9, IN-12, IN-13, IN-14, IN-15, IN-16, IN-17, IN-19, and many types of IV-tubes like IV-1, IV-2, IV-3, IV-4, IV-18 and other. I work with companies like PV Electronics, Nocrotec, Juergen Grau, so I have clear reputation. If you have interest in please let me know. Best regards Vitaly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit _https://groups.google.com/d/https://groups.google.com/d/_ (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/r6Heopw2gWYJ) . To post to this group, send an email to _neonixie-l@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com) . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _neonixie-l+unsubscribe@neonixie-l+unsub_ (mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . For more options, visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/http://groups.google.com/_ (http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB) . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit _https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/b0n2WsJ4MrEJ_ (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/b0n2WsJ4MrEJ) . To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas
On 05/21/2012 12:38 PM, jb-electronics wrote: thanks for the link! But I seriously doubt anyone is willing to ship a gas container that is above 100 bar pressure - that is really dangerous if shipped normally, and really expensive, if shipped properly, I am afraid. They had no problem shipping to me via USPS. And when several of us went in and split a tank of Xenon, I had no problem at all shipping via USPS. I had called ahead to ask. At the counter, the clerk put an Inert Compressed Gas label on the box and took it. No HAZMAT fee like UPS wanted. Last time I bought, neon was $1 a liter. That's nice, but something I have to dream about. The manifold solution is quite interesting, too, but I am afraid I am not good enough for it just now. All my stuff is fabricated out of copper tubing and brass valves. Perfectly adequate for the vacuum levels involved. John -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains, Occupied TN http://www.neon-john.com-- email from here http://www.johndearmond.com -- Best damned Blog on the net PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
RE: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
What is the reason to remove the coating that is just applied to enhance the contrast and visibility of the signs ? As far as I can see the guts stay visible, so that wouldn't be the problem... eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Rehwinkel Sent: maandag 21 mei 2012 20:13 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? The usual way is to soak them in warm-hot water, the coating peels off nicely after a few minutes. I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) I don't have any of those tubes, I have no idea what that would do to the back printing. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas
Hi, They had no problem shipping to me via USPS. And when several of us went in and split a tank of Xenon, I had no problem at all shipping via USPS. I had called ahead to ask. At the counter, the clerk put an Inert Compressed Gas label on the box and took it. No HAZMAT fee like UPS wanted. interesting. Definetely something to keep in mind, many thanks for the input, I never would have thought this worked. All my stuff is fabricated out of copper tubing and brass valves. Perfectly adequate for the vacuum levels involved. John Would you mind shooting a picture? I am curious about the dimensions etc. Jens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
Thank you. That was very helpful. On May 21, 2012 5:50 PM, jb-electronics webmas...@jb-electronics.de wrote: Here are some pictures in case anyone is interested: http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_artikel02.htm?lang=en Jens Just personal preference on my part is all. I have made one clock with and one without and prefer the clear tubes. On May 21, 2012 4:18 PM, Tidak Ada offl...@zeelandnet.nl wrote: What is the reason to remove the coating that is just applied to enhance the contrast and visibility of the signs ? As far as I can see the guts stay visible, so that wouldn't be the problem... eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Rehwinkel Sent: maandag 21 mei 2012 20:13 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? The usual way is to soak them in warm-hot water, the coating peels off nicely after a few minutes. I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) I don't have any of those tubes, I have no idea what that would do to the back printing. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
RE: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes
Indeed, I was forgotten there are also tubes with dammaged coatings (jb) eric _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Kirby Sent: maandag 21 mei 2012 23:47 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes Just personal preference on my part is all. I have made one clock with and one without and prefer the clear tubes. On May 21, 2012 4:18 PM, Tidak Ada offl...@zeelandnet.nl wrote: What is the reason to remove the coating that is just applied to enhance the contrast and visibility of the signs ? As far as I can see the guts stay visible, so that wouldn't be the problem... eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Rehwinkel Sent: maandag 21 mei 2012 20:13 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Removing red coating from nixie tubes Wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to remove the red coating on the tubes? The usual way is to soak them in warm-hot water, the coating peels off nicely after a few minutes. I purchased some Tesla ZM1082T's with back printing. I want to make sure to get the red coating off without destroying the back printing. These tubes were hard to track down and I don't want to ruin them. After all I think it would be cool to have my clock say Tesla on the back. :) I don't have any of those tubes, I have no idea what that would do to the back printing. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Gas
On 12-05-21 12:38 PM, jb-electronics wrote: thanks for the link! But I seriously doubt anyone is willing to ship a gas container that is above 100 bar pressure - that is really dangerous if shipped normally, and really expensive, if shipped properly, I am afraid. It all depends on how it is being shipped. A container that meets the regulatory requirements can be shipped by approved methods. You can't just Mail it. Folks who sell such things indubitably have arrangements wih freight carriers who in turn have the right licences to handle such goods. Your local compressed gas dealers (Linde, Air Products Praxair) may have a way to order something thorough their own internal system. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe http://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: IN 9 / IN 13 bar graph tubes clock
The length of the glowing portion of these bargraph tubes is fairly proportional to the input current. I personally like the IN-13 better, on two points. (1) Lower full scale current. Only 4mA. The IN-9 is much higher. (2) it has a 3rd electrode, which usually locks the glow to one side. 10 discrete levels is very doable. 12 or 24 can be managed too. The drive circuit is very simple. On the cathode leg, insert an NPN xstr (MPSA42) with a resistor in its emitter leg. Tie the collector to the bargraph cathode. The base to an op-amp output. Connect the op-amp inverting input (-) to the node connecting the resistor to the NPN emitter (other end of the resistor to gnd). Input your signal to the non-inverting input of the op-amp. If the resistor is 680 ohms, 4mA will be achieved with an input voltage of 2.72V (= 680 x 0.004). Divide that by 10, or 272mV per level. You'll need to get a uC with a DAC output, or connect a separate DAC to the uC; either parallel, or serial. On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:35:54 AM UTC-7, kay486 wrote: Hi there, ive been wondering, how precise can you be when you drive those tubes? Ive been thinking recently that they would make a really nice clock! Having six or seven tubes next to each other. The thing i need to know is if its possible with these tubes to have ten precisely given points. That way you could use them for clock pretty easily. You could even achieve neat effect if the transitions between every number would be smooth so the glow would simply grow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/YI0CcwFUJZ4J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
