RE: [newbie] Switching...
Jeanette Russo [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said: how can I get alt.os.linux.mandrake it is not on my ISP news server is there a free newserver that carries this? http://www.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?ST=PSshowsort=dategroups=alt.os.linux .mandrake Ok thanks that's one way but I really prefer to use a news reader if possible. This is a very reasonable request to make to your ISP (add a news group). Alternatively, try using Deja News to search on "public news server". Regards, Richard
Re: [newbie] An idea
On Thu, 01 Apr 1999, you wrote: Hi folks, I hope you're all fine and ready for Easter. I've been wondering if any of the Mandrake Gurus could write a thorough and detailed step-by-step guide on the subjects listed below, since there has been a high flow of e-mails going around. 1. How to switch from Kde to other Window Managers. 2. How to upgrade/compile the kernel. 3. How to access a Windows drive. I agree and maybe some help with wine also
[newbie] An idea
Hi folks, I hope you're all fine and ready for Easter. I've been wondering if any of the Mandrake Gurus could write a thorough and detailed step-by-step guide on the subjects listed below, since there has been a high flow of e-mails going around. 1. How to switch from Kde to other Window Managers. 2. How to upgrade/compile the kernel. 3. How to access a Windows drive. The final result can be possibly incorporated into the next Mandrake manual as a FAQ or even posted in the digest and then refer everybody with this kind of question to a repository of mails ( I heard somebody mentioning that he was willing to archive all the mails, so this would be an idea for a beginning). Also, allow me please a remark. Since there has been this demand from users can Mandrake in the next edition not provide Kde with the option of switching to other Window Mangers, something similar to that of Fwvm2 and AfterStep or WindowMaker? I believe that this could make Mandrake more and more attractive and popular. If at all possible, please the Gurus should pay attention on these and possibly other related things, at the end of the day it is all in the interest of the Linux community and we will all benefit from the possible innovations, Thanks in advance for the minute taken by reading this. I wish all of you a wonderful Easter vacation. Regards Bernardo
[newbie] Re:Really New/Dual Boot
Russ, I'm in the same boat as you. I just joined yesterday. Also, thanks Steve for the great primer! Now that I have my linux and kde working, I also have found the need to have dual-boot so that I can do stuff in NT. Here's my question: since NT and LILO want a piece of the mbr, how do I get them to coexist w/o using an NT or linux boot disk? When I installed lm 5.3 the other day it made it's own entries into the mbr. When I tried to boot NT, I got the blue screen, so I ran fdisk /mbr and everything worked fine after that exept linux needed to boot with a disk. Thanks! Mark G. G_REEPER wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, you wrote: Hi All, I just signed up to this list yesterday, and if what I am reading is from "newbies", I am in trouble. I don't know what anyone was saying. Of course I did just get my Linux disk in yesterday. So far I haven't got a clue as to how to install this thing. Is there a site I can go to that gives me a 1 - 2 extremely detailed how to on what I need to do? I want to install it on a 1.2 gig HD all by it's lonesome. I am running Win98 on my 5 gig but I'm just going to disconnect it to setup the other one. I got a Mandrake Linux 5.3 CD. Thanks in advance Russ Boy is this different than DOS Russ, I noticed in the reply to your mail that no one mentioned what info you need to know before you even start to install Linux. 1. You need all the info on your monitor, and video card. ( ie.. the refresh rates and such) 2. Write down all your sound card settings from windows ( ie.. the irq, and dma settings) 3. Know where your modem is ( ie.. com ports, be aware that win modems by what i read tend to have trouble with linux) 4. Know all the info about your isp. (..the dns numbers, u will need them) I also notice you said you would be removing the windows drive for this install. You really should look into the dual boot which is most common with with , and old Linux users. You may find yourself in a catch 22 . You might have a problem that you could fix if you could get online, but you can't get online without putting the windows drive back in. Since i installed Mandrake i spend 95% of my time on the puter in Linux , only booting to windows when i have to run a certain app that wine can't run, or that i haven't found a clone for in linux. Here's a few commands that you may not know of that are nice to do when you first start linux. Logged in as root 1. useradd :adds a new user 2. passwd ( username ) : lets you set the password for that user 3. /etc/cron.daily/updatedb.cron : This indexes the files on your system after it's done you can type locate (filename) and it will list every file by that name and where it is on your system. 4. shutdown now -r : reboots the system leave the -r off to just shut it down 5. startx : this will start the kde interface 6. mount /mnt/cdrom : mounts the cdrom drive 7. ls : list the files in the dir. add -a to show all files in the dir 8. pico : In the workstation install this is included as a simple text editor you can use in the shell, or xterm . ( the command line) to edit a file type in pico ( and the file name) like pico .bashrc ( don't forget the . if there is one in front of the file name, or that it's case sensitive.) 9. adding color to the shell : The first time you use ls or ls -a you see file names all one color. To make it easier to know what your looking linux has a color coding built in. To turn it on. As root type in pico .bashrc add the line alias ls='ls --color=auto' save it and log out ctrl + the d key. log in again and type ls -a colors, blue is folders, green ( don't quote me) are exe, rpm, or some other type. I hope this helps some. There are alot of folks here that are not only willing to help but very good at it. Ask if you run into trouble. There is also a newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandrake that was born from this mailing list where u can also post questions. I'm going to read over the rest of the replies and see if i can add anything. Steven G -- .
Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade
Dear Steve, I'm sorry to bother you once again, but I still seem to have a major problem. I wanted to try to compile my kernel, but if I try to do 'make xconfig' from /usr/src/linux I get the error 'make: *** No rule to make target `config'. Stop.' [same with make xconfig] I checked around on my system, and /usr/src/linux contains only the /include directory. The same was true for /usr/src/linux-2.2.3-ac4. All the useful looking stuff, /documentation, /arch, /drivers etc and Makefile, which I suppose is the program I need to use, all this is in the old kernel directory /usr/src/linux-2.0.36. Is there a simple trick to solve this? I'm afraid I've been blindly following instructions and obviously something didn't work right. NO RUSH, and thanks again for your previous help, Tom
Re: [newbie] An idea
Bernardo Rodrigues wrote: Hi folks, I hope you're all fine and ready for Easter. I've been wondering if any of the Mandrake Gurus could write a thorough and detailed step-by-step guide on the subjects listed below, since there has been a high flow of e-mails going around. 1. How to switch from Kde to other Window Managers. echo "exec window manager name" ~/.xinitrc 2. How to upgrade/compile the kernel. Details are on the Mandrake website. 3. How to access a Windows drive. man mount The final result can be possibly incorporated into the next Mandrake manual as a FAQ or even posted in the digest and then refer everybody with this kind of question to a repository of mails ( I heard somebody mentioning that he was willing to archive all the mails, so this would be an idea for a beginning). There is also the Mandrake User Support Thingie at http://landofoz.apana.org.au/mandrake.html that is collecting hints and tips from users to help out new users. In addition, there is a huge amount of documentation available in the /usr/doc directory of your Mandrake installation. Also, allow me please a remark. Since there has been this demand from users can Mandrake in the next edition not provide Kde with the option of switching to other Window Mangers, something similar to that of Fwvm2 and AfterStep or WindowMaker? All three of those window managers are provided with the 5.3 distribution that you're likely using. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Scanners
Linda [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said: I haven't read where anyone has installed their scanner and used it with Linux. I have a Mustek 1200 III EP and am wanting to use it with Mandrake. Any ideas? Mandrake includes Mandrake-SOHO (Small Office Home Office) package which includes SANE 1.0 (scanning plugin for Gimp) ...and If you check the SANE site, Mustek scanners are supported: http://www.mostang.com/sane/ Regards, Richard
Re: [newbie] An idea
I think this would be great. I feel bad to be pestering people, mainly Steve I guess, for information they've already passed on. I guess a large proportion of people using Mandrake are very new, particularly since it was recommended as the best distribution for beginners, and the same questions are bound to keep cropping up. Tom
Re: [newbie] pico as background proc
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Irsan S. P. Siregar wrote: How do you put a full screen program to run in the background? With my shell account (FreeBSD w/ csh), I usually use Ctrl-Z, and type bg 1 to put a background FTP session Most programs accept Ctrl-Z - there are just some programs (including pico) that catch the Ctrl-Z combination to do something else. You can still suspend pico by switching to another tty (press Alt-F1 for tty1, Alt-F2 for tty2, ...) and doing "kill -STOP `pidof pico`". Another alternative is to use screen, which splits the screen in different parts. LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] Making KDE run faster
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Irsan S. P. Siregar wrote: |KDE is quite a memory hog, so the best way to speed it up is to get some |additional RAM. EDO DRAM is quite hard to find now :) Really? Not here. Guess sometimes it can be an advantage to be in a very backwards place. ;) |You can also try saving memory by killing un-necessary processes (on a |home use system, you can usually killall httpd and such) and/or reducing |the color depth of XFree86. I've been trying to get the screen that show up in the last installation process (process to run at bootup). I prefered to edit it manually, where's the setting is stored? If you want to do it the easy way, run linuxconf, select "Control panel", then "Control service activity". If you want to do it manually, cd /etc/rc.d/rc3.d (or rc5.d, if you're in xdm/kdm mode), and remove the files you don't want to be started. |Especially on a low memory system, putting the swap partition on a |different harddisk than the "normal" partition(s) can be some help too - |because if they're on the same disk, there's a lot of jumping between |distant sectors (what you're currently using and the swap space) on the |disk. My second harddisk is very old. Although I didn't understand the result below, I don't think hdb can beat hda. Your hdb is quite a bit slower than hda, but still it might help to put the swap space there, because that way, hda won't have that many seek requests. (if they're on different disks, swap and normal harddisk access don't block each other). The only way to find out is to try... Hope it will came out soon :) I tried other windows manager, still I like KDE a lot. The file manager make more sense, even from Win Explorer. You don't need kwm (the window manager) in order to use the file manager - using WindowMaker or icewm will save some space, and kfm will still work. LLaP bero
RE: [newbie] Re:Really New/Dual Boot
mark+gomez [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said: Now that I have my linux and kde working, I also have found the need to have dual-boot so that I can do stuff in NT. Here's my question: since NT and LILO want a piece of the mbr, how do I get them to coexist w/o using an NT or linux boot disk? When I installed lm 5.3 the other day it made it's own entries into the mbr. When I tried to boot NT, I got the blue screen, so I ran fdisk /mbr and everything worked fine after that exept linux needed to boot with a disk. You can use the Windows NT multi boot menu to do this. You won't be able to have LILO in the MBR, I think. There is a utility called BootPart that copies the first sector of the Linux partition into a file, which you then store in your NT partition. You can then edit the c:\boot.ini file to include the Linux option. In order to use the Windows NT boot loader, the NT partition must be the active boot partition. See the BootPart web site for lots of info. http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm Regards, Richard
RE: [newbie] Re:Really New/Dual Boot
See the BootPart web site for lots of info. http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm Also see these: http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-LILO Regards, Richard
Re: [newbie] Program install
I'm sorry I should have said how do I install an linux application within KDE which I have running ok. Thanks jowilker wrote: Jerry, Mandrake is Hed Hat 5.2, with KDE combined as the default desktop. Are you going to install it on a shared drive or on a seperate drive? I beleive that I have read that RH supports zip. John Jerry Dean wrote: Where can I find info on how to install Linux programs with KDE and Mandrake. Thanks. Also is a internal ide zip a major problem to use in KDE? Thanks -- Jerry Dean 5919 E.Pima St. Tucson, AZ 85712 520-296-7176 -- John R. Wilkerson 1442 B-1 New Castle Durham NC 27704 919-471-6731 -- Jerry Dean 5919 E.Pima St. Tucson, AZ 85712 520-296-7176
No Subject
Hello everyone, I've been using Mandrake 5.2 for 5 days now and had no problems whatsoever. Configuration went OK and I got most of the things I wanted to work. I still have a few questions though and I hope someone can help me out: 1) how to enable DPMS features? I want my monitor to shut off after a specific time. I put 'OffTime 30' in XF86Config but the DPMS is not enabled. If I do 'xset +dpms' in X, it works alright but I want to have it set automatically. The manual for XF86Config says that "power_saver has to be enabled". How? 2) how to turn off the internal modem speaker (mine is USR Sportster v.90/INT/D/F/V) so that it's silent when it dials out? Is it posible at all? I often use my machine at nights and don't want to wake up my wife :-) 3) how to get rid of the Virtual Desktop feature in KDE? I commented out all the instances of 'Virtual' in XF86Config which fixed the problem partially. Everything is OK in 800x600 but in 640x480 my screen behaves as if it were in virtual 800x600. (I have a 14" monitor so I can't use anything higher and sometimes need 640x480) Thanks very much in advance! Tomasz
[newbie] Re:
Tomasz, I'm not sure about DPMS support - make sure you have a newer kernel that supports DPMS/APM. As for your question about virtual desktop, in your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, toward the end, you will find a line that reads _something_ like: (pardon my paraphrasing; I'm in Windows NT right now g) Display 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 Anyways, the bottom line is important; for the largest resolution in this line is the "virtual" one used for the others. FOR EXAMPLE -- if you have 1280x1024 like above, if you use CTRL-ALT-- to switch to 1024x768, etc., it will be a virtual 1280x1024. My solution for your situation (14" monitor) would be to just list 640x480 as the ONLY resolution. It's when you do add the 800x600 that you enter "virtual city." ;) Hope this helps - email me for more detailed information and I'll make sure I'm actually IN Linux. Paul +---+Paul A. Bernicchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ #1287814http://www.ascend.net/jacuzzi+---+ - Original Message - From: Tomasz Wzietek To: Linux Mandrake Mailing List Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 5:39 PM Hello everyone,I've been using Mandrake 5.2 for 5 days now and had no problems whatsoever. Configuration went OK and I got most of the things I wanted to work. I still have a few questions though and I hope someone can help me out:1) how to enable DPMS features? I want my monitor to shut off after a specific time. I put 'OffTime 30' in XF86Config but the DPMS is not enabled. If I do 'xset +dpms' in X, it works alright but I want to have it set automatically. The manual for XF86Config says that "power_saver has to be enabled". How?2) how to turn off the internal modem speaker (mine is USR Sportster v.90/INT/D/F/V) so that it's silent when it dials out? Is it posible at all? I often use my machine at nights and don't want to wake up my wife :-)3) how to get rid of the Virtual Desktop feature in KDE? I commented out all the instances of 'Virtual' in XF86Config which fixed the problem partially. Everything is OK in 800x600 but in 640x480 my screen behaves as if it were in virtual 800x600. (I have a 14" monitor so I can't use anything higher and sometimes need 640x480)
Re: [newbie] True Type Fonts in Mandrake ?
Unless you've really got the need to compile it yourself, why not just grab the binary rpm and install that? Check the redhat contrib mirrors for the binary rpm. It works well and integrates cleanly into the system and bootup sequences. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Steve! I got it up and running and it works great! -Mike
[newbie] Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
Microsoft Announces MS-Linux The flexible "grassroots" operating system, now with the quality and enterprise-level service and support customers expect from Microsoft REDMOND, Wash., April 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced the forthcoming release of MS-Linux(R), a new version of the well-known Linux(R) operating system designed for the enterprise. "Prior to the development of MS-Linux, enterprise customers wouldn't dream of deploying mission-critical applications on an unsupported operating system," said Jim Allchin, senior vice president of Microsoft's personal and business systems group. "All that has now changed." Maximum compatibility and performance While other versions of Linux offer a variety of immature and largely incompatible windowing environments, MS-Linux includes an implementation of the familiar Microsoft(R) Windows(R) desktop, minimizing corporate training costs and allowing the hundreds of millions of Windows users worldwide to be productive right away. MS-Linux provides a complete implementation of the Win32(R) API, enabling many of the thousands of applications written for the Microsoft Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT(R), and Windows 2000 operating systems to run unchanged on MS-Linux. Microsoft will offer support for future releases of the Microsoft Office suite of productivity applications and the BackOffice family of server products running on MS-Linux. In addition, many existing MS-DOS(R) and SCO Unix programs will run on MS-Linux without modification. Benchmark tests performed by independent laboratories have shown that MS-Linux is the world's fastest Windows file server. A groundswell of support from industry A number of leading development tool vendors will announce support for MS-Linux, including Bristol Technology Inc., Compuware Corp., Cygnus Solutions, Fujitsu Microelectronics Inc., Intel Corp., Metrowerks Inc., Rational Software Corp., Sybase Inc., and Tower Technology. "The new Linux distribution from Microsoft gives the operating system the credibility it needs to gain a foothold in organizations where it has never gone before," said Jon Hall, Executive Director of Linux International, a non-profit Linux advocacy organization. Microsoft will become a corporate member of Linux International, and will make a substantial donation of funds and equipment to the organization. "Linux International looks forward to working with Microsoft for the benefit of current and future Linux users," added Hall. According to VA Research President and CEO Larry Augustin, "VA Research is delighted that Microsoft is entering the fast-growing market for computers powered by Linux." VA Research has announced plans to bundle MS-Linux and selected Microsoft Office and BackOffice products with its powerful server, workstation, and laptop computers. VA Research has also agreed to make Microsoft its exclusive supplier of Linux-based operating systems going forward. "Having the Office and BackOffice suites running on computers from VA Research will give us a huge advantage in the marketplace," said Augustin. Microsoft has engaged well-known author and programmer Eric S. Raymond to advise the company on certain intellectual property issues related to Linux. Raymond's paper "The Cathedral of the Bizarre" was a key factor in Microsoft's decision to develop a Linux product. "While Microsoft will not immediately release the source code for its version of Linux, the company has promised to do so eventually," said Raymond. "That's good enough for me." "The Linux community and Microsoft are a great fit," says Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux. "After all, we both have the same goal, which is total world domination." Separately, Microsoft has announced the opening of a new recruiting center in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. "Microsoft is always looking for talented individuals to join our team," said Mike Murray, Microsoft's vice president of human resources and administration. "We often recruit in communities that are expected to have significant numbers of folks looking for work in the near future." Pricing and availability Microsoft expects to release English and international versions of MS-Linux Version 3.1 for Intel- and RISC-based computers on or before April 1, 2000. Pricing has not been announced. About Microsoft Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of products and services, each designed with the mission of making it easier and more enjoyable to take advantage of people using personal computers every day. Microsoft, Windows, Windows NT, Win32, BackOffice, MS-Linux, and Linux are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the United States and/or other countries. Other product and company names herein may be trademarks of their respective owners.
[newbie] Audio setup problems
On Tuesday night, I installed Mandrake 5.3 on my machine, and I was pleasantly surprised at how smoothly the process went--Linux has come along way since the early days of SLS/Slackware. Just about everything is working, including my PnP modem, but I can't seem to get my sound card to work. Here's most of the particulars, let me know if I forgot something important: The card is a Guillemot MaxiSound 64 Home Studio Pro, which uses a Dream SAM-9407 and an ESS 1868. I'm running the 2.0.36 kernel which came with the CD; I haven't rebuilt it at all (yet). In Win95, the card works fine. According to the device manager, it uses the following resources: MaxiSound 64 Home Studio Pro Audio Codec DMA 0, 1 IRQ 5 I/O 220-22f, 388-38b, 300-301 MaxiSound 64 Home Studio Pro MPU-401 Waves IRQ 9 I/O 330-335 MaxiSound 64 Series I/O 800-807 When I run pnpdump, the resulting isapnp.conf file has options for all of these resources. Per the Control Center, none of the resources are used by other devices, so I uncommented the respective lines and rebooted. Doesn't work. In the control center, the only sound device listed is a synth device, "Yamaha OPL-3". In /var/log/messages, I have one line that says "sb: dsp reset failed". I tried configuring the card via the setup program, and was able to select the correct settings, but it didn't work. In messages, I get messages of "SB 3.1 detected OK (220)" and "Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?" So far, I see the following possibilities: 1.I'm misconfiguring something. If this is the case, I don't know what. Could there be some sort of resource conflict even though the Control Center doesn't indicate anything using the desired resources? 2.I need to rebuild or upgrade the kernel. I have the 2.2.5 sources, and I understand that 2.2.x has better sound support than 2.0.x. Or, maybe I just need to compile the sound driver into the kernel, rather than have it as a module, which it is now. Would I be very likely to break something else if I did this? 3.I need to get rid of this card, and use something else. I have an Ensoniq Audio PCI card in another computer, and if I looked hard enough, I could probably find my old SoundBlaster AWE64. I'm not terribly concerned about getting the Dream chip to work, but I'd like some basic sound functionality. I've checked the Sound HOWTO, but it starts with recompiling the kernel, which I'm willing to do if I need to, but if there's a simpler way to do this, I'd be interested. Thanks for any help you can give! -- Dan Brown, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kPPP and new kernel problems?
From: Paul A. Bernicchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahh, thanks, I forgot. ;) Any way to get modemtool to do this or should I just make a symbolic link via 'ln -s /dev/modem /dev/ttyS0?' That's what I did, FWIW...
RE: [newbie] Really New
Hi Steven, I want to thank you for this post. I am printing it for future reference. I am having a bit of a problem getting Linux installed. Since I am running an older system, I cannot boot from the CD. To further complicate matters, Linux doesn't recognize my 4 speed CD (Creative). So therefore I have to copy the CD to disc and install it that way. (I have two IDE ports so it is easy to flop HD's around. My 5 gig is installed in the box and the 1.5 is laying on the desk.). Getting the boot disk (image disk) was a bit of a trick. I wasn't able to get my hands on any detailed How tos on how to make one. I new I had to run rawrite but when it asked for the disk image source thingie, I directed it to the folder. It didn't like that though. When I finally figured that out, I was moving right along till it asked for the "supplementary disk". So I had to hook everything back up and figure out what that was. No detailed how to's here either but I stumbled onto that in the images too. Got that going. The next snag was I messed up when I made the disk one big partition. When I ran their utility to fix my blunder, I gave up when they presented me with a blank line and wanted me to type something. Well, I redid everything and I'll give it another go. Before I do though, I'll send this and go find out all that info you suggested. Even though I'm hitting road blocks, I am have fun. I learn better that way. I probably wont get it on this try either so if anyone else wants to fire off any suggestions, I'm listening. Thanks Again Russ -Original Message- Russ, I noticed in the reply to your mail that no one mentioned what info you need to know before you even start to install Linux. snip Steven G
[newbie] Really New/Question
Hi All, I need a little help. I finally got all the way to the actual install (I think), but when it asks me what partition it is on, I can't get it to find the Red Hat files. I made a primary partition of 600 megs in DOS (left the rest blank) and copied all the CD on that drive. It recognizes this partition and the two that Linux created. What folder or file do I point it to? The info would be on the first partition as Linux lists them. I know most of you out there (or at least it seems to me) install it from the CD. Not an option in my case. Hmmm, a thought just now occurred to me, I have my CD on an IDE port off my sound card. Would this make a difference? Should I slave it off the HD and see what happens? Windows says I am using a Mitsumi driver to run my CD. There is a Mitsumi option on the CD list for Linux but it says it can't find my CD. Any thoughts anyone? Russ
Re: [newbie] True Type Fonts in Mandrake ?
At 07:35 PM 4/1/1999 -0600, you wrote: does anyone know the name of this binary on the red hat site? this is the one I downloaded. ftp://developer.redhat.com/pub/rhcn/RPMS/i386/xfstt-0.9.10-2.i386.rpm hope this helps. -Mike