Re: [newbie] Modem settings.

1999-11-22 Thread bluebottle

I'm running dual boot Win98SE  MD6.1. I set my ISA 56K modem to non PNP. I
then set dip switches to Com 4 IRQ 3. It connected first time under Linux. I
then had to delete and re-install it under WIndows. That took longer than under
linux.

Regards

John the Nadger


On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 
 Help Again!
 
 My modem is ISA PnP. the Windows settings are COM 4, IRQ 11.
 
 When using Dialer and trying to interrogate the monitor, I receive message saying 
that modem is occupied.. which is truly false.(I use the right stty3)
 
 Is there a way to manually set the IRQ in Linux or should I configure the modem as 
non PnP? if I do so, i will set it to COM 4, with the IRQ who goes along with this 
Com port and I guess this will cause some problem when using Windows...
 
 Thanks again for help.
 


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Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...]

1999-11-22 Thread Simon Norris

No, my Linux box is also a desktop, and it doesn't support ATAPI devices,
which is why I do what I do!

BTW, I have actually researched connectivity for my laptop IDE interface,
apart from the size, my laptop IDE interface is the same as standard!! I'm
tempted to wire up a conector and give it a go!



- Original Message -
From: Jaguar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...]


WOW...your desktop ( tower ) PC supports a LAPTOP IDE interface
I am impressed.
Jaguar

"Simon Norris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Couple of suggestions;
snip
 2. This is the method I use on my machine, a variation may work on yours.
As
 I haven't got access to a CD-ROM on my Linux box, I physically take the
hard
 drive over to my main machine, and copy the files onto a FAT16 partition
on
 the hard drive. I then take it back, and install from hard drive. I can
then
 delete this install partition.
 What I'm basically suggesting is to use DOS/Windows or similar to load a
 partition from the Linux CD-ROM (If you're short on disk space, you only
 need the RPMS folder), then boot from floppy and install from hard drive.
If
 DOS can see your backpack CD-ROM, boot from a DOS floppy with the CD-ROM
 plugged in the back. Or use a DOS floppy to get the hard drive partition
 bootable, boot with the CD-ROM in place, and copy the files from there.

snip
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael D. Kirkpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 8:48 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Install problems...


 I have a WinBook Laptop computer and I am trying to figure out how to
 install Mandrake RH6.0.

 I can not get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM drive.

 Here is what is going on...

 1.  I insert the removable floppy drive and boot from the boot disk.
 2.  When I get to the point where it asks me to pick which cd-rom drive
 to use, I remove the floppy drive and insert the cd-rom drive with the
 CD #1 in it.
 3.  I went through the entire list for CD-ROM drivers and it can not
 find the cd-rom.
 4.  It is not SCSI.

 I have an external CD-ROM drive as well that hooks up to the parallel
 port as well.  I tried it and it can not be found.  The CD-ROM is a
 "Backpack".

 I tried Fdisk the hard drive and copied the 9 files from the boot disk
 to it to see if it may be a problem from swapping the CD-Rom with the
 Floppy drive.  I can not get it to boot from the hard drive.  I fdisked
 the hard drive using DOS 6.0 fdisk utility and formatted it.  I copied
 the boot disk to the hard drive and it would not boot from the hard
 drive.

 I just need to install Apache web server and X-Windows so I can show off
 a working copy of my web site when I am on the road.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.





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Re: [newbie] Re:

1999-11-22 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Mark E Hood wrote:

 Dood,
   I thought i told you to beat it? So scram. Get the hell on out of here.
 You're clearly not interested in discussing Linux. Axalon? You with me here?
 M H

Mom voice
Don't you two make me come in there
/Mom voice

Sorry he doesn't appear tobe in my city you'll need to pay somebody else
to whack his kneecaps for ya ;)
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike J. Kesow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 11:43 AM
 
 
  Hey Chip Wiegand, you claim you hate people who whine, well, what do you
  think you are doing?
 
 
 




Re: [newbie] Modem settings.

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Philp

 Gilles Lahaie wrote:
 
 Help Again!
 
 My modem is ISA PnP. the Windows settings are COM 4, IRQ 11.
 
 When using Dialer and trying to interrogate the monitor, I receive
 message saying that modem is occupied.. which is truly false.(I use
 the right stty3)
 
 Is there a way to manually set the IRQ in Linux or should I configure
 the modem as non PnP? if I do so, i will set it to COM 4, with the IRQ
 who goes along with this Com port and I guess this will cause some
 problem when using Windows...
 
 Thanks again for help.

Use the setserial command:

setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 11

Then try using the dialer again.  If it works correctly, add the
setserial line to the bottom of /etc/rc.d/rc.local and it will be run
automatically everytime you boot.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

That's a Gaaame???
I thought it was some nightmarish exercise in recurssion my old functional
programming prof tortured us with *wink*


 Take a look at the Towers of Hanoi game inside Emacs.  The code should
 be similar to what you're trying to solve.  
 
 -- 
 Steve Philp
 Network Administrator
 Advance Packaging Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't



Re: [newbie] A little OT- Memory

1999-11-22 Thread M Thompson

Check out:

http://www.pricewatch.com

or

http://www.shopper.com


HTH,
Matt


From: Eric Mings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] A little OT- Memory
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:24:53 -0500

If anyone has suggestions for places to find the best prices on memory
upgrades that I can use for my PIII 450 linux box I would appreciate it.
I am going to be using it as a server and need at least PC100 128 meg
chips (though I would like to buy 256 if I could find an affordable
source). I have looked at several mainstream mailorder places and prices
vary widely. Y'all can email me directly if you think this is not of
general interest to others. Thanks much.


Regards,

Eric Mings Ph.D.


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[newbie] Monitor resolution settings

1999-11-22 Thread Gilles Lahaie



Help!

I want to set the screen resolution of my Q-71 monitor to 
1024x768.
Problem is that installation of Mandrake Linux 6.1 set default 
resolution to something around 1280x1024.
When using xConfigurator, the default resolution is about 
640x480 with the screen moved to the right... and screen is larger than the 
monitor.
What should I do???
Thanks


Re: [newbie] Quake 3 Arena video cards

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Philp

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
 
 On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Steve Philp wrote:
 
   Lionel Barrow wrote:
  
   Does anyone know if the demo of Quake 3 Arena that just came out
   works with any other cards that those based on 3Dfx I really don't
   wanna have to download this thing only to find out that I can't use
   it. Also, how can I set up my Red Hat 6.1 box to run it using a TNT2
   Ultra card Thanks in advance.
  
   2.2.12 kernel
   X ver 3.3.5
 
  How about posting to the id mailing list or the Red Hat mailing list?
  Nothing in your post makes it even remotely applicable to a Mandrake
  mailing list.
 
 
 Hey your right,
 'cept i need a tnt guinepig :)

If you're serious, I've got a 32M TNT Ultra 2.  :)

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-22 Thread David P. Greenberg

Oh, now you've got my juices flowing. When is ground not zero volts? Of
course this has nothing to do with Linux, but I'm really curious.
David P. Greenberg
Bitco Electronics
"In Service to the Recording Industry"
**Rock on with glowing glass**
-Original Message-
From: Lyndon Lininger Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)


Very true, but ground is not always zero voltage. It depends on the point
of
reference that you measure it against.


- Original Message -
From: "David P. Greenberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Axalon Bloodstone"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)


 On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
  On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Ralph | byte | wrote:
 
   A positive nothing is better than a negative anything.
  
   byte
 
  Not really, it just depends what the numbers represent, i can think of
  several uses for ground wires :)


 --Except that ground is zero volts. a negative voltage, is as pleasant to
 the touchee as a positive one. Take it from a veteran who has been many
 times bitten.

 David P. Greenberg
 Bitco Electronics
 "In Service to the Recording Industry"
 *Confirmed Linux Newbie*
 **If it's a dog eat dog world,
   then I must be a fire hydrant.**





[newbie] remove from mailing list

1999-11-22 Thread Peter Sadowski

Please remove my name from the mailing list.

Thank You

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[newbie] Here's the latest info on Opera for Linux...

1999-11-22 Thread M Thompson

This story was copied from: http://www.opera.com/interviews/linux.html

QA with Darren Starr
Lead programmer of the Opera for Linux port QT edition

Darren, I know the first question on everyone's mind has got to be: when 
will a public beta be available?

DS I'm thinking before Christmas because I get a bonus! The test group is 
quite pleased with what we've sent out and I've gotten a lot of positive 
feedback.


Are you adding anyone to the test group? Can I e-mail somewhere to get on 
the list?

DS No, I'm afraid not as the test group has already been settled.


I hear that you've been literally swamped with e-mail requests.

DS The response has been gratifying, but we simply can't deal with the 
influx of e-mail. I really didn't expect this much -- it has been amazing.


So, basically if people are mailing don't expect a response?

DS Right, I'd love to be able to give everyone a response but with so many 
we just can't. We're getting so much e-mail that no-one is getting answers. 
We will try to have something out soon though.


How will the Linux version compare to the Windows version when it comes to 
features?

DS We don't have mail and news but we should have everything else. In a lot 
of cases we will have more features to make Linux users happy.


Like what?

DS Control from outside programs so that it may be used with other programs 
such as KDE and Gnome.


Will the memory footprint be as low under Linux as it is under Windows?

DS Currently it's using 7 megs when running in debug mode and the entire 
executable right now is 2 megs.


Which GUI toolkit will Opera for Linux be based on?

DS It's based on QT right now and the window manager that we use will work 
under Gnome and KDE which is my first priority. We'll add support for other 
window managers in version 4.1. It should run under all the window managers 
but will lack integration.


What kind of dependency problems, if any, might a user run into installing 
it?

DS Right now it's running on a computer with nothing but a kernel, the 
standard C++ libraries and X Windows. There are no other requirements as we 
include the libraries.


Will Opera for Linux offer an automated install script for generic Linux or 
come packaged for the different flavors (rpm, deb etc...), or both?

DS There will be a lot of different installation options including simple 
tar files for advanced users as well as advanced shell scripts for end 
users.


Will Opera for Linux offer browsing from the console?

DS The QT edition does not, however another version we are currently working 
on will be console, right now we have two different versions: console and 
X-Windows.


Which flavors of Linux will be supported initially?

DS Linux in general - anything with a 2.x kernal and X free 86 version 
3.3.3.1 or better on an intel platform. Within a week after the first 
release we expect a public beta on Linux for Sparc.


Will Opera for Linux support integration into different desktop 
environments, for instance "NeXTish docking", Gnome Panel integration and 
KDE?

DS To a certain degree yes, however, the first version will be focused on 
browsing. This is something we'll be implementing, but in later versions; 
perhaps after 4.1 or 4.2.


Well thank you, Darren, for taking some time out of your busy schedule to 
chat with us today.

DS It's no problem, I don't mind at all.

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[newbie] kppp wants module support ...

1999-11-22 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

Just installed the Kernel 2.2.13-22mdk from the /Updates folder of a Mandrake
mirror. All works as before, except that when I start kppp as a regular user, I
get a message that this kernel does not support ppp, and that I should consult
the sysadmin (me) or recompile the kernel with ppp support or as a module. I
click the "OK" button and kppp starts as usual from here, but doing this each
time I log on is a hassle. If anyone can explain whats up I'd be gratefull.

Note: When I run /sbin/lsmod I get the following:

Module  Size  Used by
ppp20908   2  (autoclean)
slhc4312   1  (autoclean) [ppp]
autofs  9380   1  (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1   2052   4  (autoclean)
nls_cp437   3548   4  (autoclean)
vfat   11100   4  (autoclean)
fat33664   4  (autoclean) [vfat]
opl3   14312   0
cs4232  2440   0
ad1848 24592   0  [cs4232]
uart401 6448   0  [cs4232]
sound  66072   0  [opl3 cs4232 ad1848 uart401]
soundlow 304   0  [sound]
soundcore   4004   5  [sound]   

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks as if a ppp module is loaded. Guess
I'm still a real newbie, 'cause I'm confused!

-- 
Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

The measure of a man is in his honor ...



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-22 Thread Lyndon Lininger Sr.

The voltage at ground can fluxiate from moment to moment on a circuit board.
It can be a positive or negative voltage.  It is never a constant when
referenced to a true ground like a grounding rod. And this too can very
depending on ground and atmospheric conditions for the area you are in.


- Original Message -
From: "David P. Greenberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)


 Oh, now you've got my juices flowing. When is ground not zero volts? Of
 course this has nothing to do with Linux, but I'm really curious.
 David P. Greenberg
 Bitco Electronics
 "In Service to the Recording Industry"
 **Rock on with glowing glass**
 -Original Message-
 From: Lyndon Lininger Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 11:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)


 Very true, but ground is not always zero voltage. It depends on the point
 of
 reference that you measure it against.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "David P. Greenberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Axalon Bloodstone"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 7:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
  On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
   On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Ralph | byte | wrote:
  
A positive nothing is better than a negative anything.
   
byte
  
   Not really, it just depends what the numbers represent, i can think
of
   several uses for ground wires :)
 
 
  --Except that ground is zero volts. a negative voltage, is as pleasant
to
  the touchee as a positive one. Take it from a veteran who has been many
  times bitten.
 
  David P. Greenberg
  Bitco Electronics
  "In Service to the Recording Industry"
  *Confirmed Linux Newbie*
  **If it's a dog eat dog world,
then I must be a fire hydrant.**
 
 




[newbie] Apologies Due

1999-11-22 Thread Joseph S. Gardner



To those who may have been offended by my reply to Mr. M. Kesow's "love
mail" I must sincerely apologize.  It was in bad taste and uncalled for,
it was also very early Saturday morning (B.C. before coffee) and now
that I read it with a clear head on Monday I am taken back by my own
comments.  Whilst the sentiment still stands it was no excuse for my
reply.

Again, please accept my humble apologies.

--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] MVP3 chipset and L-M 6.0

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've been happily using L-M 6.0 on a single-boot system for a couple months.
 Now I'm in the process of assembling another system from spare parts and
 would like  to configure it as triple boot setup with 2 installs of Win98
 (one for games the other for everything else) and Linux Mandrake 6.0.
 
 Question #1: Can LILO handle the two different installations of Win98, or
 will I need a different boot loader?
 
It should handle it just fine. Whether or not Windows will
like it or not is a totally different question. :-)
 
 I have seen in the archives that the kernel will need to be recompiled to
 take full advantage of the VIA IDE controller on the MVP3 chipset on my
 motherboard. Here is a list of my hardware:
 
 Motherboard: Soyo 5EHM SuperSocket7 with the VIA MVP3 chipset
 CPU: AMD K6-2/300 (for a 100 mhz FSB)
 RAM: 64MB 72pin EDO (I'll get PC100 DIMMS later!)
 Video: Creative Labs Graphics Blaster TNT 16MB AGP
 Sound: Creative Labs AWE64
 HDD: Maxtor 8.4GB w/UDMA33 and an old IDE Quantum Fireball 1.6GB
 CD-ROM: old (but reliable) IDE Toshiba 4X
 Modem: External USR Sportster 28.8

I'm not sure it will need recompiling. You may be reading
about an OLD kernel.

Question #2: Are there any other special precautions
 to take before/during/after installing Mandrake 6.0
 because of this hardware? 

Hmm...I don't see anything that would cause a problem. The
AWE64 may need some special setup, but other than that, I
don't see a problem.
John



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 
 Negative, suffer the month and buy the linux version, it truely is the
 only way others will get the hint. And as for complaining, make sure you
 only whine about the shipping dates not all being the same, as they really
 are only trying to help in shiping seperate versions for linux mac and
 win32. 

Agreed! I meant that if this release doesn't show good
support for Linux (as far as retail sales go) we may be
stuck with electronic "upgrades" to the Linux version of
*future* releases by Id. (I sure hope not! G)

 PS. i here lokigames plans to tripple their
output in 2000 WooHoo!

Great! :-) I'm hoping to buy from a standard retailer
rather than from Linuxmall (after all THEY already support
Linuxwhy not show my support to NON-Linux supporting
places! G)
John



[newbie] Beware this is OT!!!!!!!!

1999-11-22 Thread yacketta



From: Ronald A. Yacketta

I have been doing a online tutorial of C++ and came acrost this little bit
that gave me a good laugh.

this came from a section regarding "friends"

You should not use friends very often because they break . If you have to
use friends
very often it is always a sign that it is time to restructure




Re: [newbie] Athlon Linux

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  
   instructions) recently.  There's nothin on the market right now
   that deserves going to ... or is ready yet 'specially in a U*ix
   environment that lags behind the leading edge hardware.  
  oh i dunno those G4s look pretty sexy. . .(:-D
 
 well, Seth,  you wait till the G5's come out, ...then you buy a G4
 
   cheaper (like 1/2) ... and they'll be an rpm for it by then  ;-)

I tried to install Linux PPC on the Powermac we have here
at work... (it was just sitting around taking up space, so
the boss told me to try installing it G) Unfortunately,
the Linux PPC still needs the MAC O/S to boot. :-(
John



Re: [newbie] need help

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Hi Gurus,
 
 I have been running LM 6.1 on my ide drive c (hdc) and have it
 somewhat configured enought to get online, print, etc.
 
 Today I installed another copy on a clean drive which is hdb. It
 boots OK but I don't have it configured as yet.
 
 My problem is now my original (hdc) won't boot, drops me to a
 shell for maintenance  :-(

So, what happens when you fsck the drive/partitions? Does
that fix it or does it continue to drop you to a shell for
maintenance?
John



Re: [newbie] Scanner

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 
 The sane-mustek.5 notes say:  "The only non-SCSI scanner that has some
 support at this point is the 600 11N scanner which comes with its own
 parallel port adapter (i.e., it does not attach to the printer port)." 
 I guess "some support"= not very much since I can't find the files
 needed.  She who must be obeyed says it's my present scanner or nothing!
 
Ahh...well, guess you'll have to dual-boot or something to
get it working. :-(
John



Re: [newbie] Monitor resolution settings

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 
 Help!
 
 I want to set the screen resolution of my Q-71 monitor to 1024x768.
 Problem is that installation of Mandrake Linux 6.1 set default resolution to 
something around 1280x1024.
 When using xConfigurator, the default resolution is about 640x480 with the screen 
moved to the right... and screen is larger than the monitor.
 What should I do???
 Thanks
 


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Please ditch the html. it's hard to read and not as pretty
under KMail as I'm sure it is under Outlook Express. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Bummer! :-( Guess we need to email Id and complain! :-)
  John
 I dunno actually. . .theyre reasoning wakes good sense.  carmack stated that
 the reason that he wants to hold off on downloadable linux binaries is so that
 they can accurately gauge purchases of the linux version.  Makes sense, no? 
 This way you don't have thousands of people buying the win version and then
 downloading the linux binaries. . . so their reasoning goes. . .
 
Well, I feel like emailing them and complaining about the
delay in *SHIPPING* the Linux version to the store shelves!
THAT sucks, as it means there probably won't be a Linux
version before Christmas!
John



Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.1 Telnet problem

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 What changes were made between Mandrake 6.0 and 6.1 related to the
 Telnet server? I installed 6.1 (from the downloaded ISO image) on a
 computer (P200 with 32 megs RAM, 2 gig hard drive, WD ethernet card)
 using the "server" choice and the machine won't accept an inbound telnet
 connection. The connection is refused before it even offers a login
 prompt, whether I try from the console or over the local lan. I can ping
 the server fine over the lan. If I install Mandrake 6.0 (from the
 McMillan disk) using hte "server" option on the same hardware, telnet
 works fine.

Install the Telnet-Server RPM and I'm guessing everything
will work fine then. Never having done a "server" install,
I can't be sure, but I know in the "custom" and "desktop"
configs, the telnet-server rpm isn't installed.
John



Re: [newbie] Quake 3 Arena video cards

1999-11-22 Thread Martin White

- Original Message -
From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Quake 3 Arena video cards


 On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Lionel Barrow wrote:

 um, line length needs a little fixeing :)

[SNIP]

Um, i hate to bite the hand that feeds and all that, (i have a fair bit of
time for you as you have solved a few of my problems in the past), but you
seem to be the only one i have ever heard complaining about line lengths
needing fixing (and yes this reply probably suffers the same).

Everyone else either doesn't have the problem or quietly puts up with it !!

Anyhow, fully expect to get flamed for that, but just had a bad day and
snapped ;o) - BTW, been quiet of late as all i seem to have been doing is
hitting delete 2/300 times a day. The list seems to have gone very off topic
and/or hostile - or is that just my impression ??

Martin.



[newbie] remove

1999-11-22 Thread Jason L Bowne/BOWNJL/LMITCO/INEEL/US


remove



Re: [newbie] Samba

1999-11-22 Thread Keith

Just a thanks to the people that responded,all is well now,Thanks again.

--
Keith



jeff wrote:
 
 Just a note. There is a bug in Windows 95-98 that sometimes makes it impossible to
 log in. There is a fix .. goto
 http://www.samba.org
 
 They have a area that list problems and fixes.
 
 Jeff
 
 Bruce Endries wrote:
 
  I've seen the same thing many times. Here are some suggestions:
 
  1. Make sure you have a linux username and password that
  exactly matches your windows username and password.
 
  2. Make sure that you have a samba share that is useable by the
  particular user.
 
  3. Make sure that you have the samba share configured in
  smb.conf for the particular user, or make it a public share (writable).
 
  4. Make sure smb.conf is configured to use encrypted passwords.
 
  5. Make sure you add the linux/windows user to the encrypted
  password file by using the command: smbpasswd -a XX where
  XX is the linux/windows username. You will be prompted for
  the password.
 
  Then try it again.
 
  Bruce
 
  Date sent:  Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:23:31 -0600 (CST)
  From:   David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Re: [newbie] Samba
  Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
  
   Can you log in as your unprivileged user? If so, your problem is probably
   that you aren't allowing guest logins to your share (you can do this by
   adding "guest ok" or something like that to the share).
   Also, check which user account you have set as your Samba guest account.
  
   DvB
  
  
  
  
   On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Gerry Doyon wrote:
  
Sounds like an "encrypted password" problem.  I bet when you click on the
sahre in Network Neighborhood it asks for a password for the a share with
"$" in it.  If so, you must enable password encryption in your Samba setup.
   
Keith wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I seem to have Samba up and running after many days of pulling my hair
 out,and now have another problem.I can see my 2 windows machines and my
 linux files (i am using LinNeighborhood) and can mount and use the
 windoze file systems no problem.Now on my windoze boxes i can see the
 linux box but cannot access it,its asking for a password and i cant for
 the life of me find out where to put this password.Swat has no offering
 for a password when i set up my shared linux files.Any suggestions
 welcome.

 Thanks

 --
 Keith
   
   
  



[newbie] REMOVAL from LISTS

1999-11-22 Thread David

Hello Everyone...

Please excuse the second posting of this message, but it seems people r
still having probs removing themselves from here.

This taken from the intro letter after joining the list..

-- cut and pasted from welcome message
--

Welcome to the newbie mailing list!

Please save this message for future reference.  Thank you.

If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
you can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following
command in the body of your email message:

unsubscribe newbie

or from another account, besides " your email account "

unsubscribe newbie " your email "

If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list,
(if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the
list itself) send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need
to contact a human.

 end cut and paste
--

Hope this helps

David








Re: [newbie] Is Mutt restricted to 80x24 Screen?

1999-11-22 Thread Peter Heckert

Hello Steve,

On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 11:02:51PM -0500, Steve Philp wrote:
 Peter Heckert wrote:
  
  Steve Philp wrote:
 
 Did you try resizing while running mutt or before starting it?  Maybe
 xterm isn't reporting the change in window size correctly?  Try a
 'resize' (it's a command) before starting mutt and see if that makes a
 difference.
 

I resized the console first,then I typed "resize | sh".
This solved the problem.
Now I'm wondering why mc and tin dont need this command.

Thanks!

Peter
-- 
Nur in /var/log/messages steht die Wahrheit.



re: [newbie] O.T. the billy dance

1999-11-22 Thread nadger

Just got the same one from Radio news group I belong to in UK. Penguins Rule!

John The Nadger

 ** Original Subject: [newbie] O.T.  the billy dance
 ** Original Sender: "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ** Original Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:19:34 -0500

 ** Original Message follows... 


 Sorry about this but I had to send this through.  Enjoy
 
 
 http://halloweendance.com/billy/
 
 
 --
 Joseph S. Gardner
 Senior Designer / Technical Support
 Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


** - End Original Message --- **

 


John the Nadger
http://www.goon.freeuk.com



[newbie] Apache/public_html

1999-11-22 Thread Pete Clapham

Hi, all --

I am the one who needed to allow users to ftp various web documents to their home 
directories and then have them visible on 
the web.  Several of you answered me that one should put these web documents into the 
public_html directory and to be sure 
that the UserDir public_html statement existed in the httpd.conf file.

Well, I did this.  Users have public_html directories on their home directories, and 
these directories have html stuff in them.  
But when I try to go to the directory, I get the "Forbidden" message.  Clearly the 
directory exists, and there is html there.  But I 
can't see it.  

I suspect that there is some configuration step that needs to be done in order to tell 
the browser that the "public_html" 
directory is, in fact, public.  Can anybody advise me what it is?

Thanks.

Cheers,
pete

Pete Clapham
Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences
Cleveland State University
Cleveland, Ohio, 44115

Phone: [216] 697-4820
Fax: [216] 523-7175
EMail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[newbie] Test

1999-11-22 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

This is a test. It is only a test. Please Ignore

-- 
Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

The measure of a man is in his honor ...




Re: [newbie] need help

1999-11-22 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999,hugahog wrote:
  | -Original Message-
  | From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 10:00 AM
  | Subject: Re: [newbie] need help
  | 
  | 
  | On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  |  Hi Gurus,
  |  
  |  I have been running LM 6.1 on my ide drive c (hdc) and have it
  |  somewhat configured enought to get online, print, etc.
  |  
  |  Today I installed another copy on a clean drive which is hdb. It
  |  boots OK but I don't have it configured as yet.
  |  
  |  My problem is now my original (hdc) won't boot, drops me to a
  |  shell for maintenance  :-(
  | 
  | So, what happens when you fsck the drive/partitions? Does
  | that fix it or does it continue to drop you to a shell for
  | maintenance?
  |  John
  | 
  | 
  | John,
  | When I fsck the partitions they all check clean except if I
  | fsck  /swap or /  . When I check /  a warning note comes
  | up saying If I fsck a mounted file system serious damage
  | could occur so I backed out.
  | Thanks
  | Larry

When you are dropped to the shell, do

fsck -t ext2 hdc# (where # = the partition number you want to check).

This way you are telling fsck which partition to check. If you use / or /swap,
you may be trying to check a partition on the hdb drive which may be mounted in
read - write mode. For better information you can do man fsck while in the
maintenance  shell. Don't know if this will help, but it looks right to me.

-- 
Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

The measure of a man is in his honor ...




Re: [newbie] Quake 3 Arena video cards

1999-11-22 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999,Martin White wrote:
  | - Original Message -
  | From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  | Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:44 PM
  | Subject: Re: [newbie] Quake 3 Arena video cards
  | 
  | 
  |  On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Lionel Barrow wrote:
  | 
  |  um, line length needs a little fixeing :)
  | 
  | [SNIP]
  | 
  | Um, i hate to bite the hand that feeds and all that, (i have a fair bit of
  | time for you as you have solved a few of my problems in the past), but you
  | seem to be the only one i have ever heard complaining about line lengths
  | needing fixing (and yes this reply probably suffers the same).
  | 
  | Everyone else either doesn't have the problem or quietly puts up with it !!
  | 
  | Anyhow, fully expect to get flamed for that, but just had a bad day and
  | snapped ;o) - BTW, been quiet of late as all i seem to have been doing is
  | hitting delete 2/300 times a day. The list seems to have gone very off topic
  | and/or hostile - or is that just my impression ??
  | 
  | Martin.

AX really talks for us all who use text based readers. It's just that he has
more patience than most. When I have to try to read something eithr in html or
too long for my screen, I just hit the DEL key and ignor the post. Why should I
be requires to go to extreme lengths to help another when it is not really
necessary. I don't mind doing a little research when needed, but why should
reading the request be more dificult that needed? Just my 2 cents,

-- 
Ernie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

The measure of a man is in his honor ...




[newbie] Memory - what a hoot!

1999-11-22 Thread Eric Mings

I originally posed the question about where to find good prices on 
memory. Thanks to everyone who responded! 

Anyways, as a comparison, the local CompUSA quoted me a price close to 
$500 for 128 meg PC 100 memory. I just ordered it from Access Micro for 
$140! I repeatedly asked to make _sure_ the Access Micro memory was PC100 
(not 66) and they assured me it is.  Amazing to me. There are probably 
other sources that would have been close to that amount but I wanted to 
pay by business check instead of plastic (which many others 
couldn't/wouldn't do). Pays to shop around!


Regards,

Eric Mings Ph.D.



[newbie] amd question

1999-11-22 Thread Eric Mings

Can someone please tell me what this means in the syslog and what needs 
to be done about it? Thanks!

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Unknown host: .directory
Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Using NFS version 0, protocol udp on host 
.directory



Regards,

Eric Mings Ph.D.



Re: [newbie] O.T. the billy dance

1999-11-22 Thread James Mellema

"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:
 
 Sorry about this but I had to send this through.  Enjoy
 
 http://halloweendance.com/billy/
snip

Crashed Netscape trying to play it, any suggestions?

--
James Mellema, CRNA MA
---
Linux User #71650



Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

42... The answer is 42 :)

For those who don't know that was an allusion to the Hitchhikers Guide to the
Galaxy.

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Very true, but ground is not always zero voltage. It depends on the point of
 reference that you measure it against.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "David P. Greenberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Axalon Bloodstone"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 7:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
  On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
   On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Ralph | byte | wrote:
  
A positive nothing is better than a negative anything.
   
byte
  
   Not really, it just depends what the numbers represent, i can think of
   several uses for ground wires :)
 
 
  --Except that ground is zero volts. a negative voltage, is as pleasant to
  the touchee as a positive one. Take it from a veteran who has been many
  times bitten.
 
  David P. Greenberg
  Bitco Electronics
  "In Service to the Recording Industry"
  *Confirmed Linux Newbie*
  **If it's a dog eat dog world,
then I must be a fire hydrant.**
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



Re: [newbie] Memory - what a hoot!

1999-11-22 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Eric Mings wrote:

 I originally posed the question about where to find good prices on 
 memory. Thanks to everyone who responded! 
 
 Anyways, as a comparison, the local CompUSA quoted me a price close to 
 $500 for 128 meg PC 100 memory. I just ordered it from Access Micro for 
 $140! I repeatedly asked to make _sure_ the Access Micro memory was PC100 
 (not 66) and they assured me it is.  Amazing to me. There are probably 
 other sources that would have been close to that amount but I wanted to 
 pay by business check instead of plastic (which many others 
 couldn't/wouldn't do). Pays to shop around!
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Eric Mings Ph.D.

I only pay at the door, and the great thing about it is the guy can't
leave till you've signed so you cna make them wait while you test :) 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] Memory - what a hoot!

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Philp

Eric Mings wrote:
 
 I originally posed the question about where to find good prices on
 memory. Thanks to everyone who responded!
 
 Anyways, as a comparison, the local CompUSA quoted me a price close to
 $500 for 128 meg PC 100 memory. I just ordered it from Access Micro for
 $140! I repeatedly asked to make _sure_ the Access Micro memory was PC100
 (not 66) and they assured me it is.  Amazing to me. There are probably
 other sources that would have been close to that amount but I wanted to
 pay by business check instead of plastic (which many others
 couldn't/wouldn't do). Pays to shop around!

Sure, call me lazy, but do you happen to have an URL for Access Micro? 
I'd like to pick up another 128 for this machine and that's the best
price I've seen since I bought this stick 6 months ago.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Is Mutt restricted to 80x24 Screen?

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Philp

Peter Heckert wrote:
 
 Hello Steve,
 
 On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 11:02:51PM -0500, Steve Philp wrote:
  Peter Heckert wrote:
  
   Steve Philp wrote:
 
  Did you try resizing while running mutt or before starting it?  Maybe
  xterm isn't reporting the change in window size correctly?  Try a
  'resize' (it's a command) before starting mutt and see if that makes a
  difference.
 
 
 I resized the console first,then I typed "resize | sh".
 This solved the problem.
 Now I'm wondering why mc and tin dont need this command.

They're probably linked against the ncurses library instead of slang. 
You _could_, of course, recompile the mutt package against the ncurses
libraries if it's not already linked that way (haven't looked).

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[newbie] kmail won't load, tool bars mangled

1999-11-22 Thread Keith Robinson

Hi all,

I wrote to kde-users with my woes and they haven't been able to help (thus
far, anyway) other than to suggest a reinstall.

Just installed my fresh new mandrake 6.1 with k.

when I run kmail for the first time it set up its new mail folder in my
user folder and then fails to do anything else. kmail does not load. no
interface and no error messages other than:
*** KMail got signal 11 *** KMail got signal 11

(I wonder if anyone grammer-checks error messages. ;-))

and kmail fails to load with subsequent tries.

all other apps seem to work ok ... but all the kde apps' tool bars are
mangled. some of the icons are blacked out, some are in the wrong place. --
the icons work, ie clicking them does what they are meant to; but you can't
tell by looking at them what they are meant to do.

here are the error message I get when I load a kapp:

KToolBarButton: pixmap is empty, perhaps some missing file
KToolBarButton: pixmap is empty, perhaps some missing file
KToolBarButton: pixmap is empty, perhaps some missing file

like I said, the suggestion I received was to reinstall. So i did, again
off of ftp. and again the exact same phenomena occur.

help, please?

--
Keith Robinson
Calgary, AB



Re: [newbie] Here's the latest info on Opera for Linux...

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Philp

M Thompson wrote:
 
 This story was copied from: http://www.opera.com/interviews/linux.html

 [SNIP]

 DS I'm thinking before Christmas because I get a bonus! The test group is
 quite pleased with what we've sent out and I've gotten a lot of positive
 feedback.


Great, we get fed crap because the guy gets a bonus for shipping before
Xmas...  I thought Linux was supposed to free us from the "rush it out
the door" syndrome.  That's the joy of open source boys and girls, it
ain't done til it's done...


 Are you adding anyone to the test group? Can I e-mail somewhere to get on
 the list?
 
 DS No, I'm afraid not as the test group has already been settled.


The bigger the pool of eyes, the shallower the pool of bugs.
 
 
 [SNIP]
 
 How will the Linux version compare to the Windows version when it comes to
 features?
 
 DS We don't have mail and news but we should have everything else. In a lot
 of cases we will have more features to make Linux users happy.


2 years and no mail or news?  Double-bah.


 
 [SNIP]
 
 Which GUI toolkit will Opera for Linux be based on?
 
 DS It's based on QT right now and the window manager that we use will work
 under Gnome and KDE which is my first priority. We'll add support for other
 window managers in version 4.1. It should run under all the window managers
 but will lack integration.


Someone mind explaining to me why a BROWSER requires it's own window
manager?  It's a fscking application for pete's sake!  Create the
top-level window and forget it.  Sheesh... this thing's gonna be a pile
of crap.

 
 What kind of dependency problems, if any, might a user run into installing
 it?
 
 DS Right now it's running on a computer with nothing but a kernel, the
 standard C++ libraries and X Windows. There are no other requirements as we
 include the libraries.


What about the concept of shared libraries.  Thanks, but I've already
GOT Qt installed on this machine.  Use it.  This "ship the system
libraries with the applications" is Windowsish to the core.

 
 Will Opera for Linux offer an automated install script for generic Linux or
 come packaged for the different flavors (rpm, deb etc...), or both?
 
 DS There will be a lot of different installation options including simple
 tar files for advanced users as well as advanced shell scripts for end
 users.


How about creating a tarball, a .deb and an .rpm package and calling it
a day.  What system did I miss?

 
 Will Opera for Linux offer browsing from the console?
 
 DS The QT edition does not, however another version we are currently working
 on will be console, right now we have two different versions: console and
 X-Windows.


Unless that's an FBDev graphical browser for the console, thanks but no
thanks.  Lynx and (umm, what's the name of the other one?) work just
fine.

 
 Which flavors of Linux will be supported initially?
 
 DS Linux in general - anything with a 2.x kernal and X free 86 version
 3.3.3.1 or better on an intel platform. Within a week after the first
 release we expect a public beta on Linux for Sparc.
 
 Will Opera for Linux support integration into different desktop
 environments, for instance "NeXTish docking", Gnome Panel integration and
 KDE?
 
 DS To a certain degree yes, however, the first version will be focused on
 browsing. This is something we'll be implementing, but in later versions;
 perhaps after 4.1 or 4.2.
 
 Well thank you, Darren, for taking some time out of your busy schedule to
 chat with us today.
 
 DS It's no problem, I don't mind at all.

I think what the interviewer forgot to mention was that we might have
had a browser over a year ago if these putzes weren't out trying to
reinvent the wheel.

We've got a variety of window managers and people are highly tied to
their personal choice of manager.  Forcing them to move to another one
for a browser will seal the browser's fate.


Step back and think hard about forking your money over to a company that
clearly does not get the Linux platform.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Re: [newbie] Install problems...]

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Philp

Simon Norris wrote:
 
 No, my Linux box is also a desktop, and it doesn't support ATAPI devices,
 which is why I do what I do!
 
 BTW, I have actually researched connectivity for my laptop IDE interface,
 apart from the size, my laptop IDE interface is the same as standard!! I'm
 tempted to wire up a conector and give it a go!

You'll also find that the 2.5" laptop IDE drives have 44 pin connectors
that are spaced much more closely together than a typical 3.5" desktop
IDE drive.  There are adapters available, but for what you get, they're
damned pricey.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: [newbie] eth0

1999-11-22 Thread Donny

Its plugged in from my 'puter to a 4-port hub

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] eth0


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Hey everyone. When booting, it takes FOREVER to start interface
 eth0.

Is it plugged into anything?
John



Re: [newbie] Monitor resolution settings

1999-11-22 Thread Jim Vaughan

 Gilles Lahaie wrote:
 
 Help!
 
 I want to set the screen resolution of my Q-71 monitor to 1024x768.
 Problem is that installation of Mandrake Linux 6.1 set default
 resolution to something around 1280x1024.
 When using xConfigurator, the default resolution is about 640x480 with
 the screen moved to the right... and screen is larger than the
 monitor.
 What should I do???
 Thanks

When you run Xconfigurator you will be told the default resolution,
somewhere in there you get the opportunity to choose.  At that point go
in and set the resolution for what you want it to be.

Jim



RE: [newbie] aol

1999-11-22 Thread Donny

AOL has no dial-up or pop access. Linux people are outta luck. I just
switched from AOL to mindspring a few months back. Im much happier now.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jaswinder S.
Ahluwalia
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 7:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] aol


If aol is my isp, is there anyway for me to get on the internet through
linux? If so, how? I tried using wine, but that just crashes.

Thanks
jas



Re: [newbie] remove from mailing list

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

Why noo... No I don't. BUT I have Yoohooed on occasion, does that count?


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Please remove my name from the mailing list.
 
 Thank You
 
 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't



Re: [newbie] audio in K

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

have you run sndconfig?

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 HI, 
 
 Can anyone point me to a help file on setting up sound for XWindows. I'm
 basically just taking a stab in the dark at those settings it asks for, but to
 no avail. Thanks!
 
 Gregg
--
PadLocke the Ogre
There are three types of people in this world...
those who can count, and those who can't!



Re: [newbie] Here's the latest info on Opera for Linux...

1999-11-22 Thread Ken Archer

Some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope!!!

Steve Philp wrote:
 
 M Thompson wrote:
 
  This story was copied from: http://www.opera.com/interviews/linux.html
 
  [SNIP]
 
  DS I'm thinking before Christmas because I get a bonus! The test group is
  quite pleased with what we've sent out and I've gotten a lot of positive
  feedback.
 
 Great, we get fed crap because the guy gets a bonus for shipping before
 Xmas...  I thought Linux was supposed to free us from the "rush it out
 the door" syndrome.  That's the joy of open source boys and girls, it
 ain't done til it's done...
 
  Are you adding anyone to the test group? Can I e-mail somewhere to get on
  the list?
 
  DS No, I'm afraid not as the test group has already been settled.
 
 The bigger the pool of eyes, the shallower the pool of bugs.
 
 
  [SNIP]
 
  How will the Linux version compare to the Windows version when it comes to
  features?
 
  DS We don't have mail and news but we should have everything else. In a lot
  of cases we will have more features to make Linux users happy.
 
 2 years and no mail or news?  Double-bah.
 
 
  [SNIP]
 
  Which GUI toolkit will Opera for Linux be based on?
 
  DS It's based on QT right now and the window manager that we use will work
  under Gnome and KDE which is my first priority. We'll add support for other
  window managers in version 4.1. It should run under all the window managers
  but will lack integration.
 
 Someone mind explaining to me why a BROWSER requires it's own window
 manager?  It's a fscking application for pete's sake!  Create the
 top-level window and forget it.  Sheesh... this thing's gonna be a pile
 of crap.
 
 
  What kind of dependency problems, if any, might a user run into installing
  it?
 
  DS Right now it's running on a computer with nothing but a kernel, the
  standard C++ libraries and X Windows. There are no other requirements as we
  include the libraries.
 
 What about the concept of shared libraries.  Thanks, but I've already
 GOT Qt installed on this machine.  Use it.  This "ship the system
 libraries with the applications" is Windowsish to the core.
 
 
  Will Opera for Linux offer an automated install script for generic Linux or
  come packaged for the different flavors (rpm, deb etc...), or both?
 
  DS There will be a lot of different installation options including simple
  tar files for advanced users as well as advanced shell scripts for end
  users.
 
 How about creating a tarball, a .deb and an .rpm package and calling it
 a day.  What system did I miss?
 
 
  Will Opera for Linux offer browsing from the console?
 
  DS The QT edition does not, however another version we are currently working
  on will be console, right now we have two different versions: console and
  X-Windows.
 
 Unless that's an FBDev graphical browser for the console, thanks but no
 thanks.  Lynx and (umm, what's the name of the other one?) work just
 fine.
 
 
  Which flavors of Linux will be supported initially?
 
  DS Linux in general - anything with a 2.x kernal and X free 86 version
  3.3.3.1 or better on an intel platform. Within a week after the first
  release we expect a public beta on Linux for Sparc.
 
  Will Opera for Linux support integration into different desktop
  environments, for instance "NeXTish docking", Gnome Panel integration and
  KDE?
 
  DS To a certain degree yes, however, the first version will be focused on
  browsing. This is something we'll be implementing, but in later versions;
  perhaps after 4.1 or 4.2.
 
  Well thank you, Darren, for taking some time out of your busy schedule to
  chat with us today.
 
  DS It's no problem, I don't mind at all.
 
 I think what the interviewer forgot to mention was that we might have
 had a browser over a year ago if these putzes weren't out trying to
 reinvent the wheel.
 
 We've got a variety of window managers and people are highly tied to
 their personal choice of manager.  Forcing them to move to another one
 for a browser will seal the browser's fate.
 
 Step back and think hard about forking your money over to a company that
 clearly does not get the Linux platform.
 
 --
 Steve Philp
 Network Administrator
 Advance Packaging Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[newbie] /home partition -- how?

1999-11-22 Thread Benjamin

Dear friends:

I will be reinstalling my Mandrake 6.1 from CD in a day or two. I would
appreciate advice on how to make a /home partition.

[Specs: AMD K6-2 400 Mhrtz, 128 megs of RAM]

Currently, I have an all-Linux system consisting of two hard drives: hda
(4.3 gig) for the Linux system and hdb for my storage needs (3.2 gig).
Both drives are Linux native ext2 drives. Plus a swap drive of 128 meg.
Obviously, I do not want to do anything with my hdb drive. 

So, the question is how to partition my main hda 4.3 drive? I have up
until now been partitioning my hda using DiskDruid by simply letting the
entire hda become my / directory  (by selecting hda1, "1" and "growing"
from the Disk Druid partition options (while hdb is my /bs directory).
The problem, of course, is that each time I reinstalled Red Hat or, now
Mandrake, I lost my /home/sher directory and everything in it.

If I could separate my /home/sher from my regular Linux installation,
would that allow me in the future to install, upgrade or reinstall
Mandrake and keep my /home/sher directory separate and intact? If so,
could someone suggest specifically how to go about doing it. I am sure
it's simple, but I want to make sure I am doing the right thing. Should
I have not two (hda1 and swap file) but three partitions on hda (hda1,
/home and swap)? If so, how do I do the math here. Just what do I need
to do?

Thank you so much.

Benjamin
-- 
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net



Re: [newbie] amd question

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Can someone please tell me what this means in the syslog and what needs 
 to be done about it? Thanks!
 
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Unknown host: .directory
 Nov 22 16:53:17 tiger amd[508]: Using NFS version 0, protocol udp on host 
 .directory
 
Looks like you've got NFS (Network File System???) turned on. If this
is a standalone computer or at least you don't want to "share" drives
(a la MS Windows, or Novell) you may want to consider turning this
feature off. As root, type "setup" at the shell prompt. Select
"System Services" and disable nfs and anything else you don't want.
To find out what each thing does, hit "f1" when it's highlighted in
that list (hint: this works for the old non-gui install as well!) You
would be advised to probably turn off rwhois, and any other "r"
services (I forget what they all are G) as these pose a potential
security hole in your system which COULD (theoretically) be exploited
by a hacker if enabled. (Again, speaking hypothetically!)
John



Re: [newbie] O.T. the billy dance

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:
  
  Sorry about this but I had to send this through.  Enjoy
  
  http://halloweendance.com/billy/
 snip
 
 Crashed Netscape trying to play it, any suggestions?
 
KFM. ;-) I used plain old KFM to view the site! :-)
John



Re: [expert] Re: [newbie] need help

1999-11-22 Thread hugahog


-Original Message-
From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Re: [newbie] need help


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  To append the directly above:
  I copied the bootup screen messages and the relative part
  is as follows.
  
  Checking filesystems
  fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open
/dev/hdb1
  (null):
  The super block could not be read or does not descirbe a correct ext2
  file system ( and not swap or something else), then the superblock
  is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate
superblock:
  e2fsck -b 8193 device
 
 Try booting with a "rescue" disk and then "chroot
 /dev/hdxx" (drive  partition where / is located.)
 Then, mkswap /dev/hdb1. It *should* re-format the swap
 space, I think. Before you do this, though, you should wait
 awhile to see if someone (Axalon???) can provide a better
 suggestion. It *sounds* as if your swap space is FUBARED!
 John


Sorry wasn't following along, if it's just a swap drive reformat is ok.
whats the partition layout (again?) i thought the bad fs was hdc#

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon


Axalon,
Yes the hdc drive is the non bootable drive but the one bootup message
applies to the most recent LM 6.1 installation on hdb's swap file.
My total system except for cd-rom drives:
hda..dos
hdb LM 6.1 , last installation , boots OK but swap file
(irregularity?)
hdb1./swap
hdb2./

hdc.LM 6.1 my main installation , been using for awhile which
now
does not boot per info previously provided but
pasted again
below to bring you up to speed :-)
hdc1.../boot
hdc2../swap
hdc3../
hdc4..extended
hdc5../usr/local
hdc6../usr
The problem started directly after installing LM on hdb.

snip
John,
When I fsck the partitions they all check clean except if I
fsck /swap or / . When I check / a warning note comes
up saying If I fsck a mounted file system serious damage
could occur so I backed out.
Thanks
Larry
To append the directly above:
I copied the bootup screen messages and the relative part
is as follows.

Checking filesystems
fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb1
(null):
The super block could not be read or does not descirbe a correct ext2
file system ( and not swap or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 device

/dev/hdc1: clean (blah blah)
/dev/hdc6: clean "
/dev/hdc5: clean "

*** An error occured during the file system check.
*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
*** when you leave the shell.

Give root password for maintenance
(or type control-D for normal startup):
-
The first few lines of the above message "Bad magic number" is indeed
talking about a swap file on the hdb drive. This is the drive that I just
installed the second MD 6.1 and is booting OK. But I don't know why the
message is there? On that drive I have my swap partition first and the
/ partition is the balance of the drive. Normally I don't set it up that way
but during the install linux wanted to install it all in the / partition no
matter
how I set the partitions up it acted like I didn't have enough room in the
/ partition (even though I had it as 1 gb) so I just made it all /.

The last thing I tried is booted the MD cd-rom to due and "upgrade" on the
problem drive (hdc) even though I had installed "everything" before I
figured
it might straighten itself out that way. However, it couldn't mount hdc3 so
I had to back out.
Sorry for this long post but wanted to provide more info :-)
Larry
snip

Hope this is not too confusing,

Thanks to all for your help so far, I'm still working on it.  BUT, I haven't
found the rescue image on the cd , just the readme about it and the
boot disk info and I already have a boot disk.
Larry




RE: [newbie] Apache/public_html

1999-11-22 Thread Ken Wilson

Are the permissions for the directories you want people to be able to
access world readable?  This is necessary otherwise only the owner of
the parent directory will be able to see anything in it.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pete Clapham
Sent: November 22, 1999 12:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Apache/public_html


Hi, all --

I am the one who needed to allow users to ftp various web documents to
their home directories and then have them visible on
the web.  Several of you answered me that one should put these web
documents into the public_html directory and to be sure
that the UserDir public_html statement existed in the httpd.conf file.

Well, I did this.  Users have public_html directories on their home
directories, and these directories have html stuff in them.
But when I try to go to the directory, I get the "Forbidden" message.
Clearly the directory exists, and there is html there.  But I
can't see it.

I suspect that there is some configuration step that needs to be done in
order to tell the browser that the "public_html"
directory is, in fact, public.  Can anybody advise me what it is?

Thanks.

Cheers,
pete

Pete Clapham
Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences
Cleveland State University
Cleveland, Ohio, 44115

Phone: [216] 697-4820
Fax: [216] 523-7175
EMail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] Memory - what a hoot!

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Eric Mings wrote:
  
  I originally posed the question about where to find good prices on
  memory. Thanks to everyone who responded!
  
  Anyways, as a comparison, the local CompUSA quoted me a price close to
  $500 for 128 meg PC 100 memory. I just ordered it from Access Micro for
  $140! I repeatedly asked to make _sure_ the Access Micro memory was PC100
  (not 66) and they assured me it is.  Amazing to me. There are probably
  other sources that would have been close to that amount but I wanted to
  pay by business check instead of plastic (which many others
  couldn't/wouldn't do). Pays to shop around!
 
 Sure, call me lazy, but do you happen to have an URL for Access Micro? 
 I'd like to pick up another 128 for this machine and that's the best
 price I've seen since I bought this stick 6 months ago.
 
Hey, Steve...bet you didn't think to TRY the obvious:
www.accessmicro.com! :-)
John



Re: [newbie] kmail won't load, tool bars mangled

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I wrote to kde-users with my woes and they haven't been able to help (thus
 far, anyway) other than to suggest a reinstall.
 
 Just installed my fresh new mandrake 6.1 with k.
 
 when I run kmail for the first time it set up its new mail folder in my
 user folder and then fails to do anything else. kmail does not load. no
 interface and no error messages other than:
 *** KMail got signal 11 *** KMail got signal 11
 
 (I wonder if anyone grammer-checks error messages. ;-))
 
 and kmail fails to load with subsequent tries.
 
 all other apps seem to work ok ... but all the kde apps' tool bars are
 mangled. some of the icons are blacked out, some are in the wrong place. --
 the icons work, ie clicking them does what they are meant to; but you can't
 tell by looking at them what they are meant to do.
 
 here are the error message I get when I load a kapp:
 
 KToolBarButton: pixmap is empty, perhaps some missing file
 KToolBarButton: pixmap is empty, perhaps some missing file
 KToolBarButton: pixmap is empty, perhaps some missing file
 
 like I said, the suggestion I received was to reinstall. So i did, again
 off of ftp. and again the exact same phenomena occur.
 
 help, please?
 
Keith...just got through posting a suggestion. This sounds
disturbingly like the problem that has been reported with kcmclock.
Try "rpm -e kcmclock" and then try "rpm -Uvh kdelibs" and see if that
helps EITHER of these problems.
I'm *guessing* (not yet having installed/upgraded to 6.1) that this
will solve BOTH problems.
John



Re: [newbie] Memory - what a hoot!

1999-11-22 Thread Eric Mings

Sure, call me lazy, but do you happen to have an URL for Access Micro? 
I'd like to pick up another 128 for this machine and that's the best
price I've seen since I bought this stick 6 months ago.

U http://www.accessmicro.com/   ;-)

Actually the price they quoted me on the phone was better than what I 
remember seeing on their website. I would call for a price.


Regards,

Eric Mings Ph.D.



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RE: [newbie] eth0

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Its plugged in from my 'puter to a 4-port hub
 
*shrug* I think the answer given yesterday was to turn OFF DHCP. I
never have any problems 'cause I *always* use a static IP for my
system 'course I'm using an ISDN router and not a cable modem or
ADSL which requires a dynamic IP. :-)
John



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[newbie] Install

1999-11-22 Thread Jonathan Heizer

If you look at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/userguide/en/000.html
installation guide I can get through step 8 but on step 9 I get a blue
screen that says "Welcome to Linux Mandrake"  And a command line on the
bottom.  What do I do to install?  I am installing off a cd using a boot
disk.

Jonathan Heizer

 winmail.dat


Re: [newbie] Quake

1999-11-22 Thread Seth Gibson

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Well, I feel like emailing them and complaining about the
 delay in *SHIPPING* the Linux version to the store shelves!
 THAT sucks, as it means there probably won't be a Linux
 version before Christmas!
We. . .that again is not id's decision. . .it has to do with retailers
making shelf space for non windows versions. . .i mean im sure all versions
will be gold at the same time. . .

--

Seth Gibson
www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
The Functional Design of the UNIX Operating System is probably one of the
few truly beautiful things left in the world.



Re: [newbie] /home partition -- how?

1999-11-22 Thread Ken Archer

I usually run two distrobutions on a 8.4 meg hd. An even split gives 2.5
gig to /  1.5  gig to /home and the balance in swap.  When you reinstall
or upgrade you only have to worry about /

Benjamin wrote:
 
 Dear friends:
 
 I will be reinstalling my Mandrake 6.1 from CD in a day or two. I would
 appreciate advice on how to make a /home partition.
 
 [Specs: AMD K6-2 400 Mhrtz, 128 megs of RAM]
 
 Currently, I have an all-Linux system consisting of two hard drives: hda
 (4.3 gig) for the Linux system and hdb for my storage needs (3.2 gig).
 Both drives are Linux native ext2 drives. Plus a swap drive of 128 meg.
 Obviously, I do not want to do anything with my hdb drive.
 
 So, the question is how to partition my main hda 4.3 drive? I have up
 until now been partitioning my hda using DiskDruid by simply letting the
 entire hda become my / directory  (by selecting hda1, "1" and "growing"
 from the Disk Druid partition options (while hdb is my /bs directory).
 The problem, of course, is that each time I reinstalled Red Hat or, now
 Mandrake, I lost my /home/sher directory and everything in it.
 
 If I could separate my /home/sher from my regular Linux installation,
 would that allow me in the future to install, upgrade or reinstall
 Mandrake and keep my /home/sher directory separate and intact? If so,
 could someone suggest specifically how to go about doing it. I am sure
 it's simple, but I want to make sure I am doing the right thing. Should
 I have not two (hda1 and swap file) but three partitions on hda (hda1,
 /home and swap)? If so, how do I do the math here. Just what do I need
 to do?
 
 Thank you so much.
 
 Benjamin
 --
 Benjamin and Anna Sher
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sher's Russian Web
 http://www.websher.net



Re: [newbie] /home partition -- how?

1999-11-22 Thread Ronald J. Yacketta

Benjamin wrote:
 
 Dear friends:
 
 I will be reinstalling my Mandrake 6.1 from CD in a day or two. I would
 appreciate advice on how to make a /home partition.
 
 [Specs: AMD K6-2 400 Mhrtz, 128 megs of RAM]
 
 Currently, I have an all-Linux system consisting of two hard drives: hda
 (4.3 gig) for the Linux system and hdb for my storage needs (3.2 gig).
 Both drives are Linux native ext2 drives. Plus a swap drive of 128 meg.
 Obviously, I do not want to do anything with my hdb drive.
 
 So, the question is how to partition my main hda 4.3 drive? I have up
 until now been partitioning my hda using DiskDruid by simply letting the
 entire hda become my / directory  (by selecting hda1, "1" and "growing"
 from the Disk Druid partition options (while hdb is my /bs directory).
 The problem, of course, is that each time I reinstalled Red Hat or, now
 Mandrake, I lost my /home/sher directory and everything in it.
 
in diskdruid just limit the / partition to lets say 3g
then create (add) a partition (linux native) that would be the rest of
the disk and make its mount point /home

currently my fstab looks like this:
/dev/hda7   /   
/dev/hdb5   /ftp
/dev/hda5   /home1
/dev/sdb1   /home 
/dev/hda8   /received
/dev/hda6   /root
/dev/sda5   /usr
/dev/sda1   /var
/dev/hda9   swap

as you can clearly see I have put /usr, /var, /home and /root on there
own partition.

 If I could separate my /home/sher from my regular Linux installation,
 would that allow me in the future to install, upgrade or reinstall
 Mandrake and keep my /home/sher directory separate and intact? If so,
 could someone suggest specifically how to go about doing it. I am sure
 it's simple, but I want to make sure I am doing the right thing. Should
 I have not two (hda1 and swap file) but three partitions on hda (hda1,
 /home and swap)? If so, how do I do the math here. Just what do I need
 to do?
 
Yes,
if you put /home on lets say /dev/hda5
when you upgrade/reinstall you wont lose that data (if you do not format
it!)


 Thank you so much.
 
 Benjamin
 --
 Benjamin and Anna Sher
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sher's Russian Web
 http://www.websher.net



RE: [newbie] eth0

1999-11-22 Thread Chip Wiegand

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Its plugged in from my 'puter to a 4-port hub
  
 *shrug* I think the answer given yesterday was to turn OFF DHCP. I
 never have any problems 'cause I *always* use a static IP for my
 system 'course I'm using an ISDN router and not a cable modem or
 ADSL which requires a dynamic IP. :-)
   John
I have ADSL and it doesn't require a dynamic IP, my isp gave me a static IP for
my nic and a seperate one for my virtual web hosting account.
Just FYI.  :-)

Chip



Re: [newbie] need help

1999-11-22 Thread hugahog


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 To append the directly above:
 I copied the bootup screen messages and the relative part
 is as follows.
 
 Checking filesystems
 fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb1
 (null):
 The super block could not be read or does not descirbe a correct ext2
 file system ( and not swap or something else), then the superblock
 is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate
superblock:
 e2fsck -b 8193 device

Try booting with a "rescue" disk and then "chroot
/dev/hdxx" (drive  partition where / is located.)
Then, mkswap /dev/hdb1. It *should* re-format the swap
space, I think. Before you do this, though, you should wait
awhile to see if someone (Axalon???) can provide a better
suggestion. It *sounds* as if your swap space is FUBARED!
 John

Yeah but fubared on the hdb drive which is booting ok, why
does the hdc drive care? Apparently according to the bootup
messages when booting hdc from floppy or lilo all partitions
check clean including hdc3 which is / but still it fails right after
that. But still I agree it seemed to get hung up on the hdb1
swap partition. SoI did this

booted from hdc boot disk
ran mkswap on hdb1
ran mkswap on hdc2
no change in boot problems
In partition magic moved hdb1 swap to end of drive
no change in boot problems
moved hdb1 swap back to front of drive but left as free space
booted with hdc floppy and ran fdisk /dev/hdb
created and formated the freespace as swap just in case it
wasn't done correctly before.
No change in boot problems, completely back to square one :-(

Here is my lilo.conf

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-7mdk
 label=linuxb
 root=/dev/hdb2
 read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-7mdk
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hdc3
 read-only

other=/dev/hda1
 label=dos
 table=/dev/hda

I'm wondering if there might not be a corrupt file somewhere on hdc
that is affecting the way it initializes?
Everything else 'seems' OK  :-)

Larry




Re: [newbie] aol

1999-11-22 Thread Josh McCaffrey

Yeah, they suck, and they're overpriced, but for some reason or another people
think there's more to do on AOL.  Call me crazy, but all I need is a number to
dial in to, an e-mail box, a browser with which to view HTML documents,  maybe
some graphics and JAVA and I'm happy.  Their software is stupid.  The whole
interface is for people that need the web served to them on a platter.  I liked
it when I cancelled my free trial and they called me twice to try to get me back,
and so I asked very politely if I could get their terrific software to work on
Linux.  No.  Why not?  I just had a good time pestering this poor CSR.  I hope I
didn't ruin her day.  It's not her fault AOL sux.  However, I was polite, and
maybe I planted the Linux seed in just one more person's head.
-Josh


Sean Armstrong wrote:

 AOL SUCKS! Nuff said.
 They don't have PPP access.  Their service sucks.  They are afraid of ppp
 because
 people wouldn't use THEIR proprietary software.  AOL is nothing more than
 another WINDBLO$E of the internet.  If you try to get any info from them
 , they'll send you a generic answer saying that they are aware of the problem
 and are working to correct it.  In english this means, Use our software, or
 TUFF #$!*.
 If you don't believe me try writing their technical service about this
 problem.
 Sorry for the rant.
 SA

 Larry Coolidge wrote:

  AOL Has to run to dial-up.  AOL 5.0 is PPP compatible, but the AOL software
  has to be running.  It will only run under Windows, so Linux isn't going to
  work.
 
  From: "Ronald J. Yacketta" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] aol
  Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:34:21 -0500
  
  On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Yeah, get a real ISP ;)
  
  on the other hand (I never used AOl so I am going out on a limb here)
  does A-O-HELL offer dialup ppp? if so then you could possibly (not sure
  tho)
  use kppp
  
 If aol is my isp, is there anyway for me to get on the internet
  through  linux? If so, how? I tried using wine, but that just crashes.
   
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE REMOVE

1999-11-22 Thread Ron Marriage


Why not send this about 200 times to the idiots that sent
those posts.
That way they will know how to get off the list for sure.

Ron


 Thomas Cox wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 For all those who can't figure out how to get removed,
 here is some clipped info from the email that was sent to
 everyone when they signed up to this newsgroup:
 snip
 
 If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing
 list,you can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 with the following command in the body of your email
 message:
 
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 or from another account, besides (your original email
 address):
 
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  If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the
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Re: [newbie] Apache/public_html

1999-11-22 Thread Ben


check your .conf file for apache. in /httpd  ( i think?).  there should be a
line in the file the specifies what the public directory is named.  Although
I think public_html is the default.  Also check your folder permissions.

 I suspect that there is some configuration step that needs to be done in
order to tell the browser that the "public_html"
 directory is, in fact, public.  Can anybody advise me what it is?




Re: [expert] Re: [newbie] need help

1999-11-22 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  To append the directly above:
  I copied the bootup screen messages and the relative part
  is as follows.
  
  Checking filesystems
  fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb1
  (null):
  The super block could not be read or does not descirbe a correct ext2
  file system ( and not swap or something else), then the superblock
  is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
  e2fsck -b 8193 device
 
 Try booting with a "rescue" disk and then "chroot
 /dev/hdxx" (drive  partition where / is located.)
 Then, mkswap /dev/hdb1. It *should* re-format the swap
 space, I think. Before you do this, though, you should wait
 awhile to see if someone (Axalon???) can provide a better
 suggestion. It *sounds* as if your swap space is FUBARED!
   John
 

Sorry wasn't following along, if it's just a swap drive reformat is ok.
whats the partition layout (again?) i thought the bad fs was hdc#

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Re: [newbie] need help

1999-11-22 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 To append the directly above:
 I copied the bootup screen messages and the relative part
 is as follows.
 
 Checking filesystems
 fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb1
 (null):
 The super block could not be read or does not descirbe a correct ext2
 file system ( and not swap or something else), then the superblock
 is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
 e2fsck -b 8193 device

Try booting with a "rescue" disk and then "chroot
/dev/hdxx" (drive  partition where / is located.)
Then, mkswap /dev/hdb1. It *should* re-format the swap
space, I think. Before you do this, though, you should wait
awhile to see if someone (Axalon???) can provide a better
suggestion. It *sounds* as if your swap space is FUBARED!
John