[newbie] ICQ help!!!!
what is the best ICQ clone for linux that can i use?
Re: [[newbie] LILO]
"Marc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how do I get rid of Lilo? I don't have a boot loader I just use my boot disk each time. I am going to put Partition Magics boot manager on here. Before that I need to know how to get rid of Lilo 100%. Also == I don't believe you want to get rid of lilo 100%. If you're going to use BootMagic, you will want to move lilo from the mbr to your root or boot partition. I'll assume you're going to be dual booting with windows so you might find your root partiiton on hda5, but check to be sure. BootMagic will simply launch lilo when linux is chosen at bootup time. If i'm wrong here, hopefully one of the gurus will correct me. Mike "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Frankilin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] Re: ICQ help!!!!
Hiya joey On 26-May-00, you wrote about "[newbie] ICQ help" j what is the best ICQ clone for linux that can i use? Have a look at http://www.kxicq.org Cheerio -- ODave Naylor | |...| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie]
Hello Chaps, I'm still having compilation problems. I can install from RPMs with no worries but trying to compile/install source is not working. It seems to fall over by not finding confdefs.h Is this a problem or not, if it's a file I'm missing, where do I get it :) Tara! -- ODave Naylor | |...| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Linux is more popular than sex and windows (fwd)
ahh that's aload of cwap, goto altavista and try it for your self. linux 11,000,000 ish windows 15,000,000 sex 11,000,000 ish god 5,450,618 bill gates wants to rule the world with his evil microsoft empire 7,274,452 -Original Message- From: J D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 5:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux is more popular than sex and windows (fwd) i'm sorry, but i sex is more popular than linux. sex is human nature. but anyway :) jd From: Denis HAVLIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux is more popular than sex and windows (fwd) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 23:21:37 +0200 (CEST) I suppose you always wondered what it is that we do all day long, right? Well, one of the things we are kind of good at is browsing the web. Below is a typical example! enjoy Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- (This is a major information since it was not true at all one year ago.) "Isaksson's research was simple - he ran the word Linux through the AltaVista search engine and then he did the same with the word Windows. ... There were 11,313,520 Web pages found for the Linux search but only 10,755,265 found for Windows." "So there you have it, inconclusive proof that Linux is now more prevalent/important/hyped than Microsoft Windows." http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-05-24-011-06-PS-CY Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] ICQ help!!!!
Hi !!! LICQ is a good Clone ! URL: http://www.licq.org cu joey wrote: what is the best ICQ clone for linux that can i use?
Re: [newbie] wierd question
On Thu, 25 May 2000, you wrote: I have LM 7. I wonder is there a way during the install that I can tell it to not install postfix because I am incapable of Use the expert and custom options during the install, then you can pick and choose what is installed. Or is there a way I can get Pine or Kmail to look in another folder? for kmail file - settings - network - select acct, - modify What are the comparisons between psotfix and sendmail and why do some prefer one over the other?/ sendmail has a reputation for being difficult to setup and configure, and has way many more options than the average home user needs to deal with postfix is fairly easy to setup, and will perform most of the tasks a home user or small network admin needs right out of the box. Plus the config files are a bit easier to understand. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] HOW DO I GET RID OF MANDRAKE?
Graham-Now that you've had Mandrake, Windows will never be the same! -michael-
Re: [newbie] Mandrake on old 486 -CD not found !!!
This CD ROM works off of a (proprietary?) controller on the soundcard. Without special drivers it won't even work under Windows. This drive will not function off a normal ATAPI interface if it's like the ones I've owned or worked on. You don't have a normal CD you could plug in temporarily do you? I hope somebody else has a better suggestion for you. -Gary-
Re: [newbie] List of services
Luis Aragon wrote: Can anyone tell me were I can find a list of services and their descriptions so I can choose which to auto start? Thanks use ntsysv to see/set services to be started on bootup. chkconfig can also be used. you can look in the /etc/rc.d/init.d directory to see a description of each service.
[newbie] I want to know permissions
I will want to know how to give permissions of users mount floppy disks and cd-rom disks thank you!
RE: [newbie] Sound???
Na, I've been asking this question for two weeks on the list, and no one responds. Maybe you'll have better luck. I've got a Yamaha soundcard and it may be that it (and yours) is incompatible with Mandrake. Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Sound??? Linux Mandrake 7.0 installed fine on my laptop (whew) but I'm suddenly aware that there are no SOUNDS When I look under Information/Sounds - - the window shows, Installed drivers: Card Config: Etc, etc. - - all with nothing written after them. Any ideas?? Thanks, Nan
Re: [newbie] ICQ help!!!!
I've had different version of ice for linux but so far i think klicq is the best, but i do have licq installed right now to download it go to www.licq.com or linuxberg.com and search for klicq and licq Juvenal -Original Message- From: joey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 25, 2000 4:24 AM Subject: [newbie] ICQ help what is the best ICQ clone for linux that can i use?
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
I'm new to this list but been using mandrake for a while now. One thing
(well there may be two) I don't like about Linux mandrake is the installing
of multiple programs
that do the same thing, for example I found 2 versions of icq, 20 or 30
games, who knows how many text
editors, and multimedia software, I think more control of what's being
installed should be given.
Juvenal
-Original Message-
From: Denis HAVLIK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Cc: Gael Duval [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 25, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
Hi, folks!
What follows is probably a single most important letter I ever posted on
these mailing lists, so please read it very carefully!
[ANNOUNCEMENT]
We (Mandrakesoft) are starting internal discussions about future of
our distributions NOW. We want you to take part in the process of
improving our next distro.
- NOW is a time to ask us whatever you want: tell us what you like, tell
us what you hate, tell us what you dream of!
- NOW is a time for you to influence the future company decisions - start
thinking, and if you come up with a briliant idea, post it here.
Starting NOW, I am going to stop sleeping, eating, or doing any other job
which would interfere with currently most important task: Making sure we
make the best decisions based on whatever input we can get.
[RULES]
* Basically everything you can think of is open for discussion, except
question of including non-free software in the core of our distro, which
is absolute NO-NO.
* Listen to what other people have to say. Try keeping the signal/noise
ratio as high as possible.
* One topic per e-mail and informative subject line help us a lot. ("125
Great ideas!!!" is a very bad subject line.)
* Please, try to avoid any kind of flaming on the list for the next 10
days.
* Finaly, If you have time and skills to pick up ideas from long
discussion threads and write a good summary, please do it, it will help us
a lot.
[TOPICS]
Topics we are particularly interested in at this moment include:
1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the
future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things
need polishing...
2) install:Which features of our current installation
program (DrakX) do you like, which features are you missing, what is not
clear enough? The same question goes for post-install configuration
tools.
3) packages: which packages to add, what to remove from the distro,
which subset of packages is really nessesary for a minimal install,
and which packages are "just add-ons"?
4) tools: which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or
improve in case we are already developing them? Many great
programs already exist out there, so we really badly need to know
which important linux tools you still miss, in order to
concentrate on them in the future.
5) system policy: We want to make our system "logical" by following the
Linux Standards, and being consistent in the way
"things" (services, settings) are implemented. Tell us where
we need to improve.
6) security policy: Closely related to point "6". You know that we care a
lot about security, don't you? Well, the problem is choosing right
security settings for various situations.
(If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a
discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly)
I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing
lists during next two weeks. Guillaume will do the same on the
"cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take
part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in
(and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting).
At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a
resume of what has been decided and share it with you.
yours
Denis Havlik
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Re: [newbie] List of services
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Luis Aragon wrote: Can anyone tell me were I can find a list of services and their descriptions so I can choose which to auto start? Thanks Log in as root, and run 'setup'. There in the menu you will find a system services option and you can go in there to set and select what you want. Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] LILO
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Marc wrote: I was wondering how do I get rid of Lilo? I don't have a boot loader I just use my boot disk each time. I am going to put Partition Magics boot manager on here. Before that I need to know how to get rid of Lilo 100%. Also when I put a new kernel on the system have to put type "newlinux" at the Lilo prompt will I be able to do that in this other boot manager? 1. Boot dos and do fdisk /mbr 2. Don't know.. Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] libXpm.so.4 ?
On Thu, 25 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After I reinstalled Mandrake 7, when I try to install kdebase package, I got an error message says it needs libXpm, but I there is no libXpm in RPMS directory of Mandrake CD. What's that? Did I miss something during the installation? Strange thing. I checked in kpackage if something like libXpm is in the database of installed stuff, and it does not show... Then I checked /usr/X11R6/lib and there it is. It is a link to libXpm.so.4.11. If you can find the latter file and not the former, make a symlink (ln -s) in that directory, and it should work. Good luck Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Reborn Linux Newbie
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Edwin Chua wrote: Now that I got more time to myself, I would like to relearn linux again. However, I'm thinking to installing the newer version of the linux. Are there any good linux books I can read to equip myself? I can recommend "Running Linux", by O'Reilly Associates (www.oreilly.com) Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] DISCUSSION: My first Suggestion (Installer Problem)
Denis-
Its great to hear the guys at Mandrake are willing to listen to the end users.
Here is my first input:
The install program is very slick. However at one point in the install,
after you have partitioned the drive you are shown a slider bar and asked
to pick how much software you want to install. (you choose the amount of
megabytes to install). I find this very confusing. If i pick 800mb what
is being installed? Am I getting all the packages I need??
If you do an expert install you are later given a list of software and you
can pick and choose what packages you want. But if you are not doing the
basic install Mandrake simply installs xxx megabytes of software and the
user has no idea what it is getting.
I find this to be extremely non-user-friendly. Especially since I like to
know what is going to be installed on my box. Perhaps in the next version
you could rework the install so that you are give a list of "prepackaged"
install options such as "light, medium, everything" But then in the next
window you would have the total list of packages and the user can
add/remove items.
Thanks for listening.
Aaron Zuercher
At 08:30 PM 5/25/00 +0200, you wrote:
Hi, folks!
What follows is probably a single most important letter I ever posted on
these mailing lists, so please read it very carefully!
[ANNOUNCEMENT]
We (Mandrakesoft) are starting internal discussions about future of
our distributions NOW. We want you to take part in the process of
improving our next distro.
- NOW is a time to ask us whatever you want: tell us what you like, tell
us what you hate, tell us what you dream of!
- NOW is a time for you to influence the future company decisions - start
thinking, and if you come up with a briliant idea, post it here.
Starting NOW, I am going to stop sleeping, eating, or doing any other job
which would interfere with currently most important task: Making sure we
make the best decisions based on whatever input we can get.
[RULES]
* Basically everything you can think of is open for discussion, except
question of including non-free software in the core of our distro, which
is absolute NO-NO.
* Listen to what other people have to say. Try keeping the signal/noise
ratio as high as possible.
* One topic per e-mail and informative subject line help us a lot. ("125
Great ideas!!!" is a very bad subject line.)
* Please, try to avoid any kind of flaming on the list for the next 10
days.
* Finaly, If you have time and skills to pick up ideas from long
discussion threads and write a good summary, please do it, it will help us
a lot.
[TOPICS]
Topics we are particularly interested in at this moment include:
1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the
future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things
need polishing...
2) install:Which features of our current installation
program (DrakX) do you like, which features are you missing, what is not
clear enough? The same question goes for post-install configuration
tools.
3) packages: which packages to add, what to remove from the distro,
which subset of packages is really nessesary for a minimal install,
and which packages are "just add-ons"?
4) tools: which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or
improve in case we are already developing them? Many great
programs already exist out there, so we really badly need to know
which important linux tools you still miss, in order to
concentrate on them in the future.
5) system policy: We want to make our system "logical" by following the
Linux Standards, and being consistent in the way
"things" (services, settings) are implemented. Tell us where
we need to improve.
6) security policy: Closely related to point "6". You know that we care a
lot about security, don't you? Well, the problem is choosing right
security settings for various situations.
(If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a
discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly)
I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing
lists during next two weeks. Guillaume will do the same on the
"cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take
part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in
(and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting).
At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a
resume of what has been decided and share it with you.
yours
Denis Havlik
--
-
Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik
Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
idea= allow setting of options such as 'setserial' for modems during the install i suggest this because after discovering that i need to do this after install to make my modem work (still don't know how to make it permanent) i tried to do an upgrade and get the cryptographic modules at the appropriate time, this didn't work, if i coud have set up my modem properly during install prior to this point then this would have worked -i think- perhaps this could be an 'expert' option bascule
Re: [newbie] netscape files
thanks for your replies, i have discovered that i could indeed export my address book in the ldif format and import it into linux netscape, also i copied my bookmark.htm file from win98 over to linux and copied it over bookmarks.html in my user .netscape directory (backing up the old one of course) this worked fine, messages had to be downloaded all over again however bascule J Walker wrote: I believe you could save your address book, too. If not by copying the file itself, try exporting/importing it. (I myself transferred from MS Outlook to Netscape-Linux with the help of Yahoo! address backup service, a much longer route - and it worked) Cheers, /J. Em qua, 24 mai 2000, bascule escreveu: ah well! thanks eric, at least i won't be wasting time trying to do the impossible bascule Eric MC DECLERCK wrote: NO !!! But you can try to copy your bookmarks files from netscape/win to your linux-netscape. Backup your linux bookmarks before !!! Eric bascule wrote: does anyone know if i can copy my windows netscape files over to my linux installation to save downloading messages again, to transfer bookmarks folders etc.? the directory structure is different for my profile in windows and my netscape directory in my user home directory bascule -- FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt you) -- * Registered Linux User Number * *178234*
Re: [newbie] I want to know permissions
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Simulacao numerica do escoamento de resinas em moldes com pre formasem fibras wrote: I will want to know how to give permissions of users mount floppy disks and cd-rom disks thank you! You should install supermount for that. Did the installation not do that for you? Paul )0(---)0( Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] CD-ROM not found
I every body I'm new in this list and I have the following problem I have a CDRW (hdc= Acer atapi 4x4x32) and a CD-ROM (hdd=BTC ATAPI 24X), but in the desktop i just have one icon to cd-rom to open the cdrw and this make a error trying to read this device, what can i do??? How can i configure the other cd rom (hdd) Thanks in advance Carlos __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Sound???
hi: i have one idea try to do it: loggin as root in console mode, (no X Windows), type the follow command : sndconfig and it execute a program that config your soundcard (if it´s PNP) i hope that you resolve yours problems "Saludos Cordiales" [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Linux Mandrake 7.0 installed fine on my laptop (whew) but I'm suddenly aware that there are no SOUNDS When I look under Information/Sounds - - the window shows, Installed drivers: Card Config: Etc, etc. - - all with nothing written after them. Any ideas?? Thanks, Nan begin:vcard n:Martinez Ramirez;Rogelio Enrique tel;home:(01)(7)382-10-43 tel;work:(01)(7)318-38-11 Ext 7707 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Instituto de Investigaciones Electricas;Unidad de Resultados de Simulacion adr:;;Av. Reforma 113, Col. Palmira;Temixco;Morelos;62490;Mexico version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Investigador fn:Rogelio E. Martinez Ramirez end:vcard
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Libaries
Wow, a company that actually listens to it's users! Amazing! The most important thing I can think of is to include all the programming libaries even in a standard installation. For while these people probally won't ever program, they will have to compile stuff and it's a huge headache to track down a missing libary or two. So include all the development files that you'd include under a programming install, in all of the installations. It would make a lot of newbies (and me) very very happy. That's my main suggestion. And since you said you wanted a seperate email for each topic, there's more on the way. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Security
I don't have M7.0 yet, but I like the idea of the different security zones. One of the main complaints I've heard on this mailing list is lack of desciption of what the different zones actually do. So tell the user what exactly is happening when you select a certain level. Or maybe, have like a checklist, where the user can pick and choose what exactly they want to do. That would be cool. Keep it simple (like 5 levels) for the avearage person, but let the expert pick and choose. And include some sample firewalls or something like that. Somethign that would be useful to the average Dial-up (or cable modem in my case) person, who doesn't need a lot of exceptions like for a FTP or web server, but just needs a good regular firewall. That way the user doesn't have to figure out all the ipchaining rules and stuff; which at the moment totally loses me everytime I try to read through the how-to. Of course, maybe it's not a good security idea for a "one-size-fits-most" firewall, but it's just a thought I had. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Tools - GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
One of the things you talked about was desiging new tools. One thing that would be neat to have, but I'm not sure how exactly you'd do it, is a .tar.gz uninstaller. Have a program that keeps track of where all the files go when you do "make install" and then have the program delete those files if the user doesn't want the program anymore. Or on that line of thought, maybe a program that'll automatically install a .tar.gz file. I relieze not all .tar.gz's follow the same pattern, but about 95% of them it is "tar -xzvf the_file.tar.gz; cd the_file; ./configure; make; make install". And while you could put that in a shell script, many newbies don't know how to do that. Heck, you could combine that with the uninstalling suggestion I had above and make into one program. Of course, for those .tar.gz's that don't follow the pattern, I'm not sure how you'd find out if they follow it or not, and if they don't, then what? But I like hte idea of a program that untars and installs .tar.gz's automaticaly for you. It confuses a lot of newbies, and I know it sure as heck confused me. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] installer recommendation
While we are talking about installation improvements... I accidentally realized that if you click on the stages, you can go back to a step you want. Very nice. But how about putting "Checkpoint Flags" next to stages completed. Now we a "Newbie" knows where he is as far as setup completion. Also, if a user clicks on a prior stage to repeat and fix something, the "Checkpoint Flags" should clear back to that point so he knows that the setup is to continue from new point onwards. Frank Durante
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
I agree with Juvenal's statement... Postfix and Sendmail seems to be the same situation. I prefer to learn Sendmail. Therefore, I think when under the "Expert" mode of the installation, the user should be prompted "Email server: (S)endmail? or (P)ostfix?" Frank Durante I'm new to this list but been using mandrake for a while now. One thing (well there may be two) I don't like about Linux mandrake is the installing of multiple programs that do the same thing, for example I found 2 versions of icq, 20 or 30 games, who knows how many text editors, and multimedia software, I think more control of what's being installed should be given. Juvenal
[newbie] Configure sendmail/fetchmail
I just got one of those virtual servers hosted by my ISP and want to setup my Linux box at home to be the "post office" for the other PCs in the house. Example: my domain at the virtual server ISP hosted is: www.whatever.com (of course its not the correct one.) At home, I setup my Linux box to be www.whatever.com Now I want the Linux box (through ppp dial-up) to get all mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be then parsed to the appropriate user at home. -ISP (holding all my mail)-| | +-My linux box-+ | +-Brother's PC ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | +-Brother's PC ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | +-Dad's PC (dad@whatever.com) | +-and so on... I would like to use Sendmail and Fetchmail so I can learn to use it more and more as a standard. The pc's at home are linked via Class C TCP/IP numbers (e.g. 192.168.x.x) The linked pc's are running Windows and/or Linux as workstations be masqueraded by the Linuxbox to the internet. I know I can set up the individual pc's to get their own mail straight from the ISP through masquerading but I only want some pc's to have internet access while others only get mail (This town only has 56K...no cable, no dsl, no nothing) If someone can setup an example scenario, I'd greatly appreciate it. If someone finds a visual-oriented instruction page somewhere on the net regarding this, then we would ALL appreciate it! Thank you in advance, Frank Durante
Re: [newbie] Sound???
Nan, At the terminal...type: sndconfig enter The rest should be straight forward. Prepare to hear what Linus Torvalds really sounds like. ;-) Frank Durante Linux Mandrake 7.0 installed fine on my laptop (whew) but I'm suddenly aware that there are no SOUNDS When I look under Information/Sounds - - the window shows, Installed drivers: Card Config: Etc, etc. - - all with nothing written after them. Any ideas?? Thanks, Nan
Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION: My first Suggestion (Installer Problem)
:~Here is my first input: :~ :~The install program is very slick. However at one point in the install, :~after you have partitioned the drive you are shown a slider bar and asked :~to pick how much software you want to install. (you choose the amount of :~megabytes to install). I find this very confusing. If i pick 800mb what :~is being installed? Am I getting all the packages I need?? Here is what happens: We have a list of packages with their "value". Very valuable packages have number asociated with them which is close to 100, while "junk" packages have a number close to 0 (well, junk packages do not make it into the distro, but you get the picture) When you move the slider to left, you efectively "raise the bar", so that packages with lower "priority" drop out of the selection. Personally, I think this is a great way to make a compromyse between having some controle over instalation and not having to browse trough 1000+ packages at install (horror!) What we miss at the moment is a tool which would use a symilar logic to help you install|uninstall packages on already installed system, but Pixel is working on it right now. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Libaries
:~Wow, a company that actually listens to it's users! Amazing! :~ :~The most important thing I can think of is to include all the programming :~libaries even in a standard installation. For while these people probally won't :~ever program, they will have to compile stuff and it's a huge headache to track :~down a missing libary or two. So include all the development files that you'd :~include under a programming install, in all of the installations. It would :~make a lot of newbies (and me) very very happy. :~ In 7.1, "Upgrade" can be used to add these kind of stuff (use "upgrade", "custom") withouth too much fuss. And "kernel-sources" have so many dependencies now, that you have to install good part of the "developers" tools in order to get kernel-source package on the system. This is just a temporary workaround though, in the future rpmdrake will make installing a group of related programs AFTER install a breeze. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Libaries
Great suggestion! - Original Message - From: "Anthony Huereca" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Libaries Wow, a company that actually listens to it's users! Amazing! The most important thing I can think of is to include all the programming libaries even in a standard installation. For while these people probally won't ever program, they will have to compile stuff and it's a huge headache to track down a missing libary or two. So include all the development files that you'd include under a programming install, in all of the installations. It would make a lot of newbies (and me) very very happy. That's my main suggestion. And since you said you wanted a seperate email for each topic, there's more on the way. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
[newbie] speed up isdn conn ?
hi there... does anybody know hot to speed up net connection for isdn under linux ?...mine is so much slower than in windows.it sucks..there are tricks in windowsso are there in linux too ? thx quay
[newbie] DHCP IP Address conflict.
Does anyone have any ideas on why I sometime get ip address conflicts from my workstations. I am running mandrake 6.0 using it as a dhcp server, my workstations are running Windows95 and Windows98. No one is using static ip's. Thanks Keith
[newbie] No login after installing StarOffice!
This is the second time this has happened to me. The first time I thought it was just me being dumb and messing something up. The second time I believe I can say the StarOffice install did something. I have mandrake 7 set to use the graphic login. After installing StarOffice, when I rebooted, the computer will boot and load everything but when it tries to load the graphical login, it just starts cycling. The monitor will sync (you can hear it click) and the numlock light on the keyboard will flash. It did that for over an hour. Questions; 1. How do I stop it from hitting the graphical login? I didn't make a boot disk because I'm an idiot. 2. How do I fix whatever happened? 3. How do I install StarOffice without this happening again? Thanks for the help.
RE: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Libaries
Thanks Anthony. I agree with this as well. I would like to be able to run a server that has all the programming tools with it. That way I could do all my programming on the same machine and not have to install them individually. -- Todd Watson http://www.boogada.org "Hmm. Hey Marge, did you know they have the internet on computers now?" -Homer J. Simpson- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anthony Huereca Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION: Libaries Wow, a company that actually listens to it's users! Amazing! The most important thing I can think of is to include all the programming libaries even in a standard installation. For while these people probally won't ever program, they will have to compile stuff and it's a huge headache to track down a missing libary or two. So include all the development files that you'd include under a programming install, in all of the installations. It would make a lot of newbies (and me) very very happy. That's my main suggestion. And since you said you wanted a seperate email for each topic, there's more on the way. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: RE: [newbie] slow connection speed
No in your case things are different. I'd start looking for MTU and packet latency problem in your situation. For the most part, I have seen NO degradation under Linux in larger LAN environments, 100 - 1000 nodes. I've run Linux as a very capable Router/NAT box servicing 1000 nodes as well. There is a remote chance of a driver problem, vis-à-vis your Ethernet card, so my first choice would be to try a different LAN card. Remember that Windows may be able to correctly configure the Ethernet card's defaults, while Linux may be using a more generic driver. Switching cards might solve this. If this yields the same results then it's time to look elsewhere. The problem is probably external to Linux. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:47 AM To: Jose M. Sanchez Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [newbie] slow connection speed I have encountered this as well but in a network enviroment does it have a speed setting like Setserial for ethernet? (dsl). Mike
[newbie] DISCUSSION - one of the kind
I am begining to see the pattern .-) However, these are two different things (for me). It is one thing having one or more "editors", "e-mail progs" "games" ..., and completely another thing ending up with two servers who try to do the same job. First thing is nice for most of the people (I hope... I like it!), while the second represents Absolute Evil(tm) I am not sure how difficult would it be to make a "minimalistic-expert-install", where you would be prompted to choose one of several similar programs during install. Looks like a lot of hacking to me. OK, noted for later discussion. I can easily imagine some kind of "minimal authomatised install", where you end up with only one-of-a-kind (one editor, one e-mail client...), whichever we think is "the best". Would this be interesting for anyone? (Obvious problem is that MY favorite editor happens to be... whatever. Pick up 10 people, and you get at least 12 different "best editors") :~ Postfix and Sendmail seems to be the same situation. I prefer to learn :~ Sendmail. Therefore, I think when under the "Expert" mode of the :~ installation, the user should be prompted "Email server: (S)endmail? or :~ (P)ostfix?" :~ :~ Frank Durante :~ :~ I'm new to this list but been using mandrake for a while now. One thing :~ (well there may be two) I don't like about Linux mandrake is the :~installing :~ of multiple programs :~ that do the same thing, for example I found 2 versions of icq, 20 or 30 :~ games, who knows how many text :~ editors, and multimedia software, I think more control of what's being :~ installed should be given. :~ :~ Juvenal :~ :~ -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION One Step Installation
There seems to be a lot of problems with the installation going into second
stage. I for one am having a current problem with it beginning stage two
then terminating on a signal 9 using the harddisk install method thats with
a floppy, using autoboot I get to where it is loading ramdisk then ramdisk
fails and then the computer hangs. Oh you can put in a choice too such as
Choose your installation method
1) Text install
2) DrakX
Just a thought
Kenny
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:30 PM
Subject: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
Hi, folks!
What follows is probably a single most important letter I ever posted on
these mailing lists, so please read it very carefully!
[ANNOUNCEMENT]
We (Mandrakesoft) are starting internal discussions about future of
our distributions NOW. We want you to take part in the process of
improving our next distro.
- NOW is a time to ask us whatever you want: tell us what you like, tell
us what you hate, tell us what you dream of!
- NOW is a time for you to influence the future company decisions - start
thinking, and if you come up with a briliant idea, post it here.
Starting NOW, I am going to stop sleeping, eating, or doing any other job
which would interfere with currently most important task: Making sure we
make the best decisions based on whatever input we can get.
[RULES]
* Basically everything you can think of is open for discussion, except
question of including non-free software in the core of our distro, which
is absolute NO-NO.
* Listen to what other people have to say. Try keeping the signal/noise
ratio as high as possible.
* One topic per e-mail and informative subject line help us a lot. ("125
Great ideas!!!" is a very bad subject line.)
* Please, try to avoid any kind of flaming on the list for the next 10
days.
* Finaly, If you have time and skills to pick up ideas from long
discussion threads and write a good summary, please do it, it will help us
a lot.
[TOPICS]
Topics we are particularly interested in at this moment include:
1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the
future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things
need polishing...
2) install:Which features of our current installation
program (DrakX) do you like, which features are you missing, what is not
clear enough? The same question goes for post-install configuration
tools.
3) packages: which packages to add, what to remove from the distro,
which subset of packages is really nessesary for a minimal install,
and which packages are "just add-ons"?
4) tools: which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or
improve in case we are already developing them? Many great
programs already exist out there, so we really badly need to know
which important linux tools you still miss, in order to
concentrate on them in the future.
5) system policy: We want to make our system "logical" by following the
Linux Standards, and being consistent in the way
"things" (services, settings) are implemented. Tell us where
we need to improve.
6) security policy: Closely related to point "6". You know that we care a
lot about security, don't you? Well, the problem is choosing right
security settings for various situations.
(If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a
discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly)
I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing
lists during next two weeks. Guillaume will do the same on the
"cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take
part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in
(and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting).
At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a
resume of what has been decided and share it with you.
yours
Denis Havlik
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Re: [newbie] LM7.1
On Thu, 25 May 2000, you wrote: :~Any comment on what "extras" might be included in the 7.1 powerpack edition? WTH are you? Press? Not the press, just a happy Mandrake user, who buys both the cheapbytes cd's and the powerpacks. The cheapbytes cd's since they are usually available right away, the powerpacks to support MandrakeSoft because I like the extras. Think a little: In PP there will be books and some additional software. Some of the software will be along the line of the previous Power-Packs, other will be completely new. If Gael wants to tell you more, that is fine, but I am not going to, because I hate to ruin a surprise. Just curious if there was anything new. The last few had more or less the same stuff in them. Guess I'll just have to wait. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] LILO
Marcyou don't want to get rid of lilo, just remove it from your mbr. However this will occur automatically when you install and activate BootMagic so you don't need to worry about it, though it can be done with the dos utility fdisk (fdisk /mbr from a dos prompt). You do need to install lilo on the first sector of your / partition though. The simplist way is to use Linuxconf and change the lilo default configuration to install lilo on the partition that is your / partition (or on your /boot partition if you have a seperate one). Also this utility will allow you to reconfigure lilo when you change kernals. BootMagic doesn't need that info as it starts lilo (from it's new location) and lilo contains the info about kernals and such and controls the actual linux boot process. Alan Marc wrote: I was wondering how do I get rid of Lilo? I don't have a boot loader I just use my boot disk each time. I am going to put Partition Magics boot manager on here. Before that I need to know how to get rid of Lilo 100%. Also when I put a new kernel on the system have to put type "newlinux" at the Lilo prompt will I be able to do that in this other boot manager? _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
[newbie] Yo Denis a DISCUSSION TIDBIT here.
Well "tweaks" would be more in order from my vantage point, I'm waiting for the "major updates" to take place like: Xfree 4.0, KDE 2, and the 2.4 kernel before I upgrade again. I am one user on a desktop PC with no network, I use a firewall and "portsentry" to keep track of the "badguys" while I'm online. I use a crummy 24K dialup so I need to run a downloader manager to resume broken downloads. I have no need for much internal security, but none the less I run in the "root mode" as little as possible. So there's a short overview of how I use your present product, and what I'll be looking for in the future. Xfree 4.0 promises an end to the "crummy font" syndrome in X, the 2.4 kernel is starting to explore the UDF file system more and I hope will support multi session (packet writing) on the CDRW's that I miss so much! vern -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
[newbie] Configuring internal ATAPI-IDE Zip drive
n attempting to configure my internal ATAPI-IDE Zip drive I found the following advice (I have lost the source): "Here's how to use an IDE ATAPI zip drive on Linux. First, the kernel: Do _not_ use the "IDE FLOPPY" option (officially the name is CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY ). This will work perfectly for reading and writing, but it will not work for ejecting. What you need to do is say yes to the option CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI. When this is set, you will treat the IDE ATAPI drive just like a SCSI drive, except without the SCSI card and all that other garbage.." I don't know how to access the options referred to. Any suggestions much appreciated. Michael Coady -- M.
[newbie] Ports
Hi everybody, I'm trying out gfcc the port configging app, so far I'm learning how to use it, I want to block all the ports except of course the ones I'm using on my server. I wish to leave open 21 for ftp, 80 for www, and 25 for mail, by the way, is the e mail server port just one for smtp and pop or does pop have one of its own? I am taking my mail directly off of my mail server with pine so maybe pop does not apply here??
Re: [newbie] DSL
if you rent static IPs from your ISP you can do exactly that. Alternately you can set up internet connection sharing through your main machine (it'll need to have two NIC cards) but I have no idea how to do that in linux, I just know that you can do it. There is a HOWTO for doing it of course. see http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html and http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO.html and http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html and probably http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html too. I've got three computers on a LAN here. The Uplink port on our hub goes into the router and the router goes into the wall. I do actually need to have wandows installed on one of the computers to talk with my router though. Stupid wandows only programs. Dacia --- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can jump in here, does this mean that theoretically I can connect my DSL modem to the network hub here at home, and connect to the web from any of the three computers on the network? On Wed, 24 May 2000, you wrote: Dacia and AzureRose wrote: as far as I know all dsl "modems" are actually routers. Even the internal ones. There are no issues with dsl Win Modems therefore. Dacia Oh. At any rate, I connect through my network card to a Netopia router that has a 8 port ethernet hub built into it, and not through an internal card. Also, even if this router is internal, there is a chance that there are no drivers that work under Linux. I mean, it ain't gonna route if Linux doesn't recognize it as a device and is able to assign an IP address to it. That is all I was trying to say :-) Dan -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux-Mandrake v7.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
