Re: [newbie] Applix

2001-03-20 Thread Dennis Myers

On Tuesday 20 March 2001 12:55, you wrote:
> Dear All, I just downloaded the Applixware 4.4.2 demo and I cannot
> figure out how to install. There were no directions from the webpage and
> the readme txt. just says run the 'ax-demo'  script or something close
> to that. I tried this and just got a no such command error message. Has
> anyone installed this? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you very
> much. Sincerely, Marcia
Was it a .tar.gz file or an .rpm?  If it was a tar you have to be in the 
directory that it installed to to call the file.  In other words something 
like  cd /usr/local/Applixware 4.4.2  should put you in the directory and 
then on the command line you could put the ' ax-demo' and it should run. Hope 
that was clearer than it looks to me.  Good luck,
-- 
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[newbie] test

2001-03-20 Thread mta2001







[newbie] Applix

2001-03-20 Thread marcia

Dear All, I just downloaded the Applixware 4.4.2 demo and I cannot
figure out how to install. There were no directions from the webpage and
the readme txt. just says run the 'ax-demo'  script or something close
to that. I tried this and just got a no such command error message. Has
anyone installed this? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you very
much. Sincerely, Marcia




Re: [newbie] Installing VMware

2001-03-20 Thread Joe Redd

you know, I finally got vmware to work when I logged in as a normal user, I 
was logged in as root before.  And it is all fine and dandy when I am logged 
in as me, except, I can't have it use a partition, I can only choose a 
virtual disk.  This is not my desired effect at all, I want to boot into my 
exisiting windoze from inside of linux.  ultimately I want to be able to 
watch my TV Tuner card, and to use MS Access 2k.  When I try to use an 
exisitng partition, it says i don't have access to any.  I put my name in the 
root group, and I made sure that the /dev folder included read and write 
access to the root group.  I put myself in the disk group as well, as, upon 
further investigation, I realized that the hda file has permission group 
setup for disk group.  Anyway, none of tha works, but I can't get the license 
to register when I am logged in as root.  Any more idea's?  Also, what would 
happen if you modify the liscense file to have a later expiration date?  
Seems rather easy to extend the free trial if all it takes is to change the 
date.

Thanks in Advance,

Joe

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you managed to utter:
> You might have done this, and I may be misinterpreting your email, but I'll
> send this out anyway:
>
> the license file needs to be place in the .vmware (not the fullstop at the
> start) directory that exists in the home directory of the user that will be
> using vmware.
>
> eg, user jbloggs wants to run vmware, copy the license file to
> /home/jbloggs/.vmware/license.file
>
> this is how I've set up the license on my PC at home, and works just fine
> for vmware2.0.3
>
> hope this helps
>
> Dave
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/21 3:01 pm >>>
>
> Hello again everyone.  I have installed a trial version of VMWare at work
> under Windows 2000 professional, and it works quite nicely.  However, I am
> having some difficulty with the trial version of VMWare for LM7.2  The
> version that came on the cd's wouldn't install, said the package was
> corrupt. So, I downloaded it over again.  That went ok, and I installed the
> .rpm ok, then ran the vwmare-config.pl file with minimal incident (needed
> to compile a new module for my kernel) and I even setup like I did at work
> to boot into windows under Linux, but, it says I don't have a valid key.  I
> have the trial key, and i put the file in the vmware directory, and i tried
> renaming it to just say license, but nothing is working for me.  Is quite
> annoying.  I even made the vmware folder hidden, which seemed to be what
> the instructions wanted.  So, I just don't know what to do at this point. 
> Maybe someone can give guidence?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe




[newbie] HP 9350i Locks up computer, slow boot up/down

2001-03-20 Thread DJW

I just install a HP 9350i (used to have a Memorex 1622) and it has totally
messed up my 7.2.
During the boot, it hangs for about 5 minutes during the mnt drives section
(with or without a cd in
it).  When I access the file tools in the mnt directory after it finally
starts it locks that program up and
I have to Xkill it.
If I turn the drive off in the bios (ide secondary) everything works fine.
I have gone into config and
told it not to mnt the drive at bootup, but it still hangs up if the ide
secondary is turned on.
I have completely formatted the drives and reinstall 7.2 (install goes
fine).
It also will not shut down properly with the drive on.
For whatever reason, I installed Corel Linux and it works fine with the
drive, but I prefer Mandrake's.
Any ideas, suggestions, etc?
Thanks in advance,
Donald Wright
P.S.  No I don't want to give you the drive and put my 1622 back in, so
don't suggest that!  :)





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[newbie] HP 9350i cdr locks, bogs system

2001-03-20 Thread DJW

I just install a HP 9350i (used to have a Memorex 1622) and it has totally
messed up my 7.2.
During the boot, it hangs for about 5 minutes during the mnt drives section
(with or without a cd in
it).  When I access the file tools in the mnt directory after it finally
starts it locks that program up and
I have to Xkill it.
If I turn the drive off in the bios (ide secondary) everything works fine.
I have gone into config and
told it not to mnt the drive at bootup, but it still hangs up if the ide
secondary is turned on.
I have completely formatted the drives and reinstall 7.2 (install goes
fine).
It also will not shut down properly with the drive on.
For whatever reason, I installed Corel Linux and it works fine with the
drive, but I prefer Mandrake's.
Any ideas, suggestions, etc?
Thanks in advance,
Donald Wright
P.S.  No I don't want to give you the drive and put my 1622 back in, so
don't suggest that!  :)



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[newbie] Xfce screensaver -- defective?

2001-03-20 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

Just spent a little time exploring XFCE's xscreensaver. I looked
through the online documentation, tried out many of the screensavers and
tried out some of the options. Xscreensaver certainly works in the sense
that if you set it for such and such a time, it will come on at that
time (e.g. after 5 minutes of inactivity). The problem seems to be that
some of the screensavers, as someone else noted, do not work. Since
xscreensaver runs its many screensavers at random, sooner or later you
will get to one of the defective or non-existing screensavers. When you
try the demos out, you will come across one of these non-existent
screensavers with an error message from Xscreensaver. The documentation
says that you can set Xscreensaver to stick to just one demo if you set
the Cycle Timeout to zero (Screensaver Options tab). I tried to select a
screensaver, enable it (which was already checked) and then set the
Saver Timeout to 1 minutes. Xscreensaver came on all right but not with
my screensaver but with its own random selection. I also checked my
~/.xscreensaver file. I didn't see any option there to set a specific
screensaver. Has anyone had success with this or is Xscreensaver really
defective?

Thanks so much.

Benjamin
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Re: [newbie] Installing VMware

2001-03-20 Thread David Grubb

You might have done this, and I may be misinterpreting your email, but I'll send this 
out anyway:

the license file needs to be place in the .vmware (not the fullstop at the start) 
directory that exists in the home directory of the user that will be using vmware.

eg, user jbloggs wants to run vmware, copy the license file to 
/home/jbloggs/.vmware/license.file

this is how I've set up the license on my PC at home, and works just fine for 
vmware2.0.3

hope this helps

Dave

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/21 3:01 pm >>>
Hello again everyone.  I have installed a trial version of VMWare at work 
under Windows 2000 professional, and it works quite nicely.  However, I am 
having some difficulty with the trial version of VMWare for LM7.2  The 
version that came on the cd's wouldn't install, said the package was corrupt. 
 So, I downloaded it over again.  That went ok, and I installed the .rpm ok, 
then ran the vwmare-config.pl file with minimal incident (needed to compile a 
new module for my kernel) and I even setup like I did at work to boot into 
windows under Linux, but, it says I don't have a valid key.  I have the trial 
key, and i put the file in the vmware directory, and i tried renaming it to 
just say license, but nothing is working for me.  Is quite annoying.  I even 
made the vmware folder hidden, which seemed to be what the instructions 
wanted.  So, I just don't know what to do at this point.  Maybe someone can 
give guidence?

Thanks in advance,

Joe






Re: [newbie] Installing VMware

2001-03-20 Thread Kyle Baker

My license installation was tricky, too.  One figures that it would be easy 
to simply put a file of a certain name in the correct folder and have it 
work.  Not.  I ended up getting it to work -- FINALLY.  One thing to try is 
to name the text file "license2.0" (without the quotes, of course) instead of 
just "license".  I found that fact buried somewhere but it ended up helping 
me.  Actually I tried so many different ways that I'm not sure if that alone 
is what ended up making it work, but it's a step in the right direction.  

Regardless, the fact that mine works fine should inspire you to keep trying 
because it is SWEET when it finally works.


On Tuesday 20 March 2001 08:01 pm, Joe Redd wrote:
> Hello again everyone.  I have installed a trial version of VMWare at work
> under Windows 2000 professional, and it works quite nicely.  However, I am
> having some difficulty with the trial version of VMWare for LM7.2  The
> version that came on the cd's wouldn't install, said the package was
> corrupt. So, I downloaded it over again.  That went ok, and I installed the
> .rpm ok, then ran the vwmare-config.pl file with minimal incident (needed
> to compile a new module for my kernel) and I even setup like I did at work
> to boot into windows under Linux, but, it says I don't have a valid key.  I
> have the trial key, and i put the file in the vmware directory, and i tried
> renaming it to just say license, but nothing is working for me.  Is quite
> annoying.  I even made the vmware folder hidden, which seemed to be what
> the instructions wanted.  So, I just don't know what to do at this point. 
> Maybe someone can give guidence?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe

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[newbie] Installing VMware

2001-03-20 Thread Joe Redd

Hello again everyone.  I have installed a trial version of VMWare at work 
under Windows 2000 professional, and it works quite nicely.  However, I am 
having some difficulty with the trial version of VMWare for LM7.2  The 
version that came on the cd's wouldn't install, said the package was corrupt. 
 So, I downloaded it over again.  That went ok, and I installed the .rpm ok, 
then ran the vwmare-config.pl file with minimal incident (needed to compile a 
new module for my kernel) and I even setup like I did at work to boot into 
windows under Linux, but, it says I don't have a valid key.  I have the trial 
key, and i put the file in the vmware directory, and i tried renaming it to 
just say license, but nothing is working for me.  Is quite annoying.  I even 
made the vmware folder hidden, which seemed to be what the instructions 
wanted.  So, I just don't know what to do at this point.  Maybe someone can 
give guidence?

Thanks in advance,

Joe




Re: [newbie] Can't mount CDRom / CDWriter

2001-03-20 Thread Bob Parker

Stephen,
On Wednesday 21 March 2001 01:41, you wrote:
> Hi all people,
>
> I have a CDROM and a CDWriter installed running Mandrake 7.2..  Using KDE I
> create an icon for CDROM with following steps;
>
> right click on KDE desktop > Create New > CDRom device > Device
> in Device drop-down list - select /mnt/cdrom
> in Mount Point - select /mnt/cdrom
> File System Type : Supermount
>
> then click OK

There is a known issue with CDRoms and burners, point your browser to:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/ then select Tutorial and follow
the link to 'getting a CD burner working' I did not yet succeed with the 
burner but I can now view the contents of  any cd in it.

Good luck
Bob Parker




[newbie] KDE theme manager not present

2001-03-20 Thread Kyle Baker

I recently upgraded to KDE version 2.1  It went fine and I was happy.  
However, I noticed that the supposed Theme Manager is missing.  I know to 
look under Control Center>Look N Feel, but I swear I don't have that module 
available.  In anticipatio to your questions, yes I downloaded and installed 
every KDE RPM and didn't skip any.  Anything else KDE-related that I run I 
can confirm to be 2.1.  Any ideas?   Anyone know which d/l Theme Manager is 
in so maybe I can try to re-install it?

TIA for any ideas anyone has...




Re: [newbie] Installing an Adaptec AHA-15x5 SCSI adapter

2001-03-20 Thread freakyfred

I had the same problem with my AHA152x SCSI board, and I found I can do a 
insmod aha152x aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1,0,500,0 and the system would recognize 
the card and tape drive. My question is, if I use the same comand in 
modules.config things go way wrong and sound won't work, the nic card can't 
be found etc. Is there another way of adding this to the modules.config si 
this won't happen?

On Tuesday 20 March 2001 15:56, you wrote:
> Oh boy, where to start.
>
> Let's see if I can give you a definitive answer here since I have spent the
> best part of 3 months attempting to get this board to show.
>
> 1) Adaptec claim that this board does not run under unix.  Nevertheless
> there is a driver for the board in /lib/modules/aha152x.
>
> 2) Searching both generally and through dejanews on aha152x and adaptec
> amongst other search strings  :o) produces large volumes of mails, many
> unanswered requests for assistance, also one or two smug biggers saying
> something along the lines of 'can't understand it, mine works perfectly'.
> (One of the most irritating responses to get to an enquiry.)
>
> 3) One of the mails I turned up said that a batch of these boards had been
> incorrectly silk-screened and that the jumper ids were falsely identified.
> The diagram in the manual (available from the Adaptec site) is the one to
> use as a reference.  The significance of this being that you have one irq
> jumpered only to find that it is actually another.
>
> 4) OK, the nitty gritty.  You need to set jumpers for the port and irq that
> you will be using.  I found that 11 and 340 work for me, they do not
> conflict with anything. The alternatives are irq 9, 10, 11 or 12 I think
> and either 140 or 340 for ports. The manual suggests that under windows you
> are reccomended to use 9 and 340 ISTR.
>
> 5) Try modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1,0,500,0, if this succeeds it
> sets :
>
>   port 340
>   irq  11
>   scsi id 7
>   recconect enabled
>   parity enabled
>   synchronous disabled
>   delay 500ms
>   extended translation disabled
>
> I have seen suggestions that this command can be used with just 2, or 3
> parameters (port, irq and scsi id)
>
> 6) If this works you can then think about modifying modules.conf to do this
> at boot time.
>
>
> BTW although my machine now recognises the scsi if it still resolutely
> fails to pick up the Seagate Travan drive  :o(
>
> regards
>
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RODRIGUES Nuno
> > Sent: 20 March 2001 01:27
> > To: NEWBIE ENG
> > Subject: [newbie] Installing an Adaptec AHA-15x5 SCSI adapter
> >
> >
> > Hi
> > Has anyone get working an Adaptec AHA-15x5 SCSI adapter under
> > mandrake 7.2 ?
> > I tried to use the adaptec cards shown in the install list but none was
> > recognized
> > thanks




Re: [newbie] Using com5?

2001-03-20 Thread Charley & Peggy Robinson

Barb,

  You may have a Winmodem.  Does Windows call it a HCF modem?  You can
go to http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/20010302a.html and look for your
model no.  You'll also see the hardware modems there, internal &
external.  

  CR
 
Barb wrote: 
> 
> 
> I do have a 3Com/USR modem, but two problems. When I try to use ttyS2, I'm
> told the modem is busy. Is there a lock file I need to get rid of?  Second,
> using the great instructions on this above mentioned page, I can't run
> setserial. My I/O port is DFE0 and it won't accept that format.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Barbara




[newbie] glibc upgrading

2001-03-20 Thread Paul R

How can I upgrade my glibc libraries?  I downloaded some newer Mandrake 
versions in rpm form, but trying to rpm -U gets me a huge list of 
programs that need glibc.  So, I was wondering:

1.  How do I upgrade?  I get teh safe problem if I rpm -U or rpm -F the 
new one or rpm -e the old one.

2.  Do I need to use an rpm at all, or can I use a tarball?

3.  If I use a src.rpm, how do I install it?  Never used one of these.

4.  Do I need to use the Mandrake rpm's, or can I safely use any glibc's?


Thanks!

-Paul R


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RE: [newbie] Using com5?

2001-03-20 Thread Charles A Edwards

Barb

   Not to quarrel with the SuSE instructions but try these instead.

Log in as root and from terminal enter the following command
# cat /proc/pci

This will list all your PCI devices. On this list you should see either
Communication controller or Communication device,
That listing is your modem.

Write down the first I/O range.
In the example I am using 0xd800  replace that with yours.
Enter the following:
# setserial /dev/ttyS3 port 0xd800 spd_vhi skip_test auto_irq autoconfig

If there are no errors, then enter:
# setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A


Select /dev/ttyS3 as the device in kppp and see if your modem will now
initalize
and operate.

If it does to make this perm. you will need to edit your rc.local file which
is located in the /etc/rc.d directory. Add the 2 setserial lines to the end
of this file Save the changes and reboot your system.


   Charles  (-:




Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barb
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Using com5?
>
>
> At 08:04 AM 3/20/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi Barb,
> >
> >  Go to http://www.unionbuiltbox.com/modem for instructions on how to
> >set your modem up in L-M.  This worked for me on a 3Com/USR 5610
> >hardware modem.
> >
> >  Cheers,
> >
> >  CR
> >
> >
>
> I do have a 3Com/USR modem, but two problems. When I try to
> use ttyS2, I'm
> told the modem is busy. Is there a lock file I need to get
> rid of?  Second,
> using the great instructions on this above mentioned page, I can't run
> setserial. My I/O port is DFE0 and it won't accept that format.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Barbara
>
>





Re: [newbie] Using com5?

2001-03-20 Thread Barb

At 08:04 AM 3/20/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Barb,
>
>  Go to http://www.unionbuiltbox.com/modem for instructions on how to
>set your modem up in L-M.  This worked for me on a 3Com/USR 5610
>hardware modem.
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  CR
>
>

I do have a 3Com/USR modem, but two problems. When I try to use ttyS2, I'm
told the modem is busy. Is there a lock file I need to get rid of?  Second,
using the great instructions on this above mentioned page, I can't run
setserial. My I/O port is DFE0 and it won't accept that format.

Thanks for any help.

Barbara




Re: [newbie] System Commander 2000 and partitioning

2001-03-20 Thread Dave Sherman

I have three partitions on my system, created with fdisk. There is a 
primary DOS partition (the C drive), and a secondary DOS partition, which 
is further divided into two logical partitions (D and E drives). I also 
left myself some space to install Linux, which got its own partition.

This was all on a single disk drive. I'm not sure if you are using two 
physical drives, based on your mention of "slave" below.

There is no reason why Partition Commander could not do all these things, 
if fdisk can do them.

Dave

At 05:37 PM 03/20/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Evan Flynn wrote:
> >
> > u..
> >
> > repartitioning a drive is a logical thing... as opposed to physical.
> > the only physical thing you're doing is remagnitizing the platters.
> > so to answer your question you won't have to disconnect the drives.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Romanator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:57 PM
> > Subject: [newbie] System Commander 2000 and partitioning
>
>I was wondering if I can install Windows95 on the first partition and
>add an extra partition for additional space. In addition, I would like
>to do this with Windows98SE with an extra partition, Then, devote my
>slave for Linux only. Is this possible? I'm still very new when it comes
>to using System Commander 2000.
>
>--
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>Registered Linux User #179293
>Turbo Charged Penguin Email

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Re: [newbie] samba and win2000

2001-03-20 Thread Chris Slater-Walker

You shouldn't need to make this registry change; however if you don't, then
you need to ensure that the following line is in the global section of
/etc/smb.conf

encrypt passwords = yes

I can't speak for Win9x, but NT used encrpyted passwords over the network
from SP3 onwards, and so does Win2000.

You may need to install Samba 2.07 in order for Win2k clients to work
correctly: there were some specific bugs fixed relating to Win2k.

===
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Cisco, Windows NT, Linux, Samba, DNS

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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] samba and win2000


> yeah.. i believe so...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Helder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] samba and win2000
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Does this apply to Win9X flavors too?
>
> Thank you
> - Original Message -
> From: Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [newbie] samba and win2000
>
>
> > You need to make a simple registry change.  Do a search for samba.reg.
> > After you install the .reg file you need to reboot.
> >
> > I forget the actual entry, it's something like
> SendClearTextPasswords=YES...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:40 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [newbie] samba and win2000
> >
> >
> > Is there a setting in win2000 that must be change in order for a W2K
> > machine to connect to a linux machine running Samba?  If so can you tell
> > me what the setting is and what to change it to?
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] System Commander 2000 and partitioning

2001-03-20 Thread Romanator

Evan Flynn wrote:
> 
> u..
> 
> repartitioning a drive is a logical thing... as opposed to physical.
> the only physical thing you're doing is remagnitizing the platters.
> so to answer your question you won't have to disconnect the drives.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Romanator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:57 PM
> Subject: [newbie] System Commander 2000 and partitioning

I was wondering if I can install Windows95 on the first partition and
add an extra partition for additional space. In addition, I would like
to do this with Windows98SE with an extra partition, Then, devote my
slave for Linux only. Is this possible? I'm still very new when it comes
to using System Commander 2000.

-- 
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Re: [newbie] talk daemon

2001-03-20 Thread A V Flinsch

On Monday 19 March 2001 23:42, you wrote:
> Hey a quick question...Does anyone know how to start up the talk and
> ytalk daemons in Mandrake Linux 7.2?
>
>
> Andrew


uncomment the talk and ytalk lines in /etc/inetd.conf then restart inetd

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RE: [newbie] samba and win2000

2001-03-20 Thread Mark Johnson

yeah.. i believe so...

-Original Message-
From: Steve Helder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] samba and win2000


Hello,

Does this apply to Win9X flavors too?

Thank you
- Original Message -
From: Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] samba and win2000


> You need to make a simple registry change.  Do a search for samba.reg.
> After you install the .reg file you need to reboot.
>
> I forget the actual entry, it's something like
SendClearTextPasswords=YES...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] samba and win2000
>
>
> Is there a setting in win2000 that must be change in order for a W2K
> machine to connect to a linux machine running Samba?  If so can you tell
> me what the setting is and what to change it to?
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] samba and win2000

2001-03-20 Thread Steve Helder

Hello,

Does this apply to Win9X flavors too?

Thank you
- Original Message -
From: Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] samba and win2000


> You need to make a simple registry change.  Do a search for samba.reg.
> After you install the .reg file you need to reboot.
>
> I forget the actual entry, it's something like
SendClearTextPasswords=YES...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] samba and win2000
>
>
> Is there a setting in win2000 that must be change in order for a W2K
> machine to connect to a linux machine running Samba?  If so can you tell
> me what the setting is and what to change it to?
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>





RE: [newbie] Problem with installing. Help please.

2001-03-20 Thread jason . a2 . greene

I was having the same problem  I let is sit and eventually it took
off... My install took over 14 hours.  I don't know why but it just
seemed to take forever.  I started it at 6 pm yesterday and it was still
going when I got up this morning...  

Try letting it sit for a while... I might take off

Jason

-Original Message-
From: gskela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:06 AM
To: newbie
Cc: gskela
Subject: [newbie] Problem with installing. Help please.

Hello,

I am trying to install Mandrake 7.2 on my PC.  My installation gets
stuck
at Initializing CDROM, in second stage install.  I was having sort of a
similar problem with Redhat 7.0 but I resolved that by typing linux
nousb
at boot:  I tried the same thing with Mandrake but it does not get me
anywhere.  I'm relatively new to Linux and that's why I really want to
try
Mandrake but I'm not beeing able get past this installation problem.  If
anyone could help I would appreciate it.  Please write me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with any kind of hints you can give me.  Also does
anyone
know where I can find a list of all linux kernel parameters that I can
try
at boot time?

Thanks in advance,

Alex

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[newbie] kppp

2001-03-20 Thread Bob Parker

LM 7.2 using KDE desktop - default install.
When I activate the interent icon i get the following error
in KPPP - the KDE Crash Handler
Short Description
The application KPPP (kppp) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
etc
 This shortcut has the following properties
Access Permissions
Class  Read  Write  Exec  Special
User  xx   x
Groupx
Others   x

Ownership
User:   bob
Group: bob

Execute
Program Name
/usr/bin/kppp
everything else empty/unchecked

Application
Name:Internet Connection
Comment:   Internet Connection

File types:
application/x-rpm

I don't know what that last line is about but removing/reinstating it makes 
no difference to anything, nor does changing the permissions above.
Help appreciated.
ps I am working around by using DrakConf and connecting as root.

-- 
Bob Parker
PO Box 1468
CAIRNS QLD 4870




Re: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???

2001-03-20 Thread Eduardo Alvarez

The Gnome samba browser.

Configure your kde to mount your machines in your neighborhod an you can see
in the konqueror browser in KDE.
- Original Message -
From: "Kelly, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Newbie'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:22 AM
Subject: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???


> Is there a way to graphically see all PC's on a network? Like Network
> Neighborhood in Winblows. I have a small LAN at home and I want to set up
> some file sharing. I didn't know if it could be done this way or if I had
to
> mount the drive to see it...
>
> Much thanks,
> Moose
>
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] New

2001-03-20 Thread Eduardo Alvarez



Supongo por tu nombre que hablas 
español...
 
Es más facil y cómodo y rápido hacer la instalación 
de cero con mandrake 7.2 0dissey. Pero si quieres actualizar el 7.1 a 7.2 
necesitas bootear de CD o con disco de arranque y seleccionar el modo 
actualización. Este respetará tus configuraciónes y usuarios. Te reomiendo no 
seleccionar paquetes adicionales, agregalos una vez instalado el SO, para mayor 
fluidez. El 7.2 tiene soporte USB al teclado microsoft, pero no así a las teclas 
de acceso a internet o a las funciones play, volume +, etc. Pero puedes intentar 
buscando drivers. Yo lo intente con un teclado Compaq easy acceses pero no he 
encontrado soporte a estas funciones adicionales.
 
Adicionalmente, puedes utilizar el RPM drake o el 
Kpackage para manejar tus RPM's sobre X's en cualquier GUI, pero te recomiendo 
también que descarges de RedHat la compatibilidad para RPM versión 7, ya que 
hasta el LM 7.2 solo soporta hasta la versión RH6.2 de RPM's, y gran parte de 
los nuevos programas se están utilizando en está versión.
 
Desconozco si el LM 7.2 tiene controlador para tu 
SCSI, pero si tienes disco del driver para UNIX en cualquier distribución, 
puedes intentar compilarlo o ir directamente al sitio de adaptec a buscar tu 
driver... slds - ed@r mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  juan jose Ubierna Mahave 
  To: Linux 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:09 
  AM
  Subject: [newbie] New 
  
  I recent finish install mandrake 7.1 , I´m so new 
  in Linux.
  1.-, I have problems with my keyboard USB 
  (Microsoft internet Keyboard Pro), --Too Many NAKs , 
  2.-  I have problems with ADAPTEC 
  AIC-7890AB/AIC38600 USCSI 2 integrated in motherboard Iwill BD-100 with 1 
  processor PII 350MHZ.
  3.- I had configure Apache, Networking , I would 
  like with Java is soported in this ambient
  4.- I would like update version mandrake 7.1 to 
  7.2  what is the  most easy way to make this.
  5.- Have Xwindows rpm utility. Where can I found 
  this.
   
  Thanks.
   
   


RE: [newbie] samba and win2000

2001-03-20 Thread Mark Johnson

You need to make a simple registry change.  Do a search for samba.reg.
After you install the .reg file you need to reboot.  

I forget the actual entry, it's something like SendClearTextPasswords=YES...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 8:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] samba and win2000


Is there a setting in win2000 that must be change in order for a W2K
machine to connect to a linux machine running Samba?  If so can you tell
me what the setting is and what to change it to?


Jason






Re: [newbie] XFCE -- the little engine that could!

2001-03-20 Thread Mark Weaver

Ben,

Would you like for me to host the list on my system on a trial basis to
see how things will go with it? I've got Majordomo setup and working on
my Linux machine here at home. Only trouble is that I don't have a 24/7
connection so theres going to be a little down time.

For instance, between the hours of 11:00pm and 6:00. I suppose I could
work on setting up a script that would hangup and then redial my ISP at
scheduled intervals...that would be an intersting little project.

I installed and setup Majordomo so I could start a small mailing list
for my class mates in Accounting class at the college I attend and its
worked great as a study aid. Lets us all keep in touch and everyone is
on the same page.


Subscription is easy and painless as it unsubscription. If you wanna
give this a try you can send a subscibe request to

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

with

subscribe xfce-new

in the body of the message.

Let me know...

Mark

Benjamin Sher wrote:
> 
> Dear friends:
> 
> We all know about KDE and Gnome. Some have even heard of Window Maker,
> Sawfish, Enlightenment, Icewm and Blackbox, all of which are listed on
> Mandrake's graphical login menu and all of which are installed by
> default.
> 
> Realizing that the days of my AMD k6-2 400 mhrtz with 128 megs of RAM
> are numbered, I have been exploring the past week other desktops and
> window managers that can give me the full range of Linux, including all
> of KDE and Gnome, X and console. I tried all of the above and was not
> quite satisfied. And then I discovered, hidden deep in Linux-Mandrake
> 7.2's own CD's under Graphical Desktops (Other), a wonderful desktop
> environment called XFCE. It is a beautifully designed desktop, bold and
> original, featuring a toolbar concept (instead of a panel/taskbar) with
> pop-up menus for icons and with desktop menus for all of KDE and Gnome
> applications. It is very intuitive and allows full configuration and
> customization right down to the color of your menu background and menu
> text and a full theme manager. And you can get tech support from its
> mailing lists. Yet, the whole program is under 20 MB instead of the 127
> megs of KDE or Gnome. It launches very fast from the console.
> 
> A picture is worth a thousand words. Go to XFCE's home page at
> http://www.xfce.org and look at the following snapshots of actual xfce
> desktop themes:
> 
> 1)  Five user-contributed snapshots at http://www.xfce.org
> 
> 2)  Ten more user-contributed snapshots at:
> http://www.xfce.org/usersnaps.html
> 
> 3)  Twelve more user-contributed snapshots at
> http://www.xfce.org/usersnaps2.html
> 
> I think you will be very impressed by what you see.
> 
> TECHNICAL CONSIDERATIONS:
> 
> If you are interested in trying out XFCE, please do NOT use the by now
> old version in LM7.2. Instead, download the latest RH
> xfce-3.7.2-1.i386.rpm. That's what I am using.
> 
> After installing xfce by rpm or by tar or whatever, be sure to run the
> xfce_setup program as USER:
> 
> $xfce_setup
> 
> It only takes 3 seconds. You can also run the xfce_default script. But I
> would recommend not doing so until you are quite certain that you want
> xfce as your default desktop, If, for any reason you do end up with xfce
> as default and you want to switch, just type, again, as USER,
> 
> $xfce_remove
> 
> And then you can still keep your xfce settings but are free to use any
> other desktop or window manager of your choice.
> 
> WARNING for Linux-Mandrake users (perhaps for other distros as well):
> 
> Since XFCE is not listed on the graphical login menu, you will need to
> access it from the console. When you do, please remember to type the
> SINGLE word:
> 
> $startxfce
> 
> That is, NOT "startx xfce". There is an apparent and very mysterious bug
> in Mandrake which causes "startx xfce" to launch the ICEWM window
> manager INSTEAD of xfce. So, please remember the one word command as
> user:
> 
> $startxfce
> 
> Well, that's it. Hope you give XFCE a try. It's well worth it. And it's
> a damn shame that Linux Mandrake does not install it by default. If you
> like it, you might wish to let them know how you feel about it.
> 
> Benjamin
> 
> --
> Sher's Russian Web
> http://www.websher.net
> Benjamin and Anna Sher
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[newbie] Problem with installing. Help please.

2001-03-20 Thread A.G.

Hello,

I am trying to install Mandrake 7.2 on my PC.  My installation gets stuck
at Initializing CDROM, in second stage install.  I was having sort of a
similar problem with Redhat 7.0 but I resolved that by typing linux nousb
at boot:  I tried the same thing with Mandrake but it does not get me
anywhere.  I'm relatively new to Linux and that's why I really want to try
Mandrake but I'm not beeing able get past this installation problem.  If
anyone could help I would appreciate it.  Please write me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with any kind of hints you can give me.  Also does anyone
know where I can find a list of all linux kernel parameters that I can try
at boot time?

Thanks in advance,

Alex

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Re: [newbie] New

2001-03-20 Thread Barbara Pfieffer

I just last night installed 7.1 on a Dell, with the same keyboard. I get
the 'too many NAKs' during boot, but the keyboard works fine in KDE.
Haven't had time to try it with anything else.

Barbara

> juan jose Ubierna Mahave wrote:
> 
> I recent finish install mandrake 7.1 , I´m so new in Linux.
> 1.-, I have problems with my keyboard USB (Microsoft internet Keyboard
> Pro), --Too Many NAKs ,
> 2.-  I have problems with ADAPTEC AIC-7890AB/AIC38600 USCSI 2
> integrated in motherboard Iwill BD-100 with 1 processor PII 350MHZ.
> 3.- I had configure Apache, Networking , I would like with Java is
> soported in this ambient
> 4.- I would like update version mandrake 7.1 to 7.2  what is the  most
> easy way to make this.
> 5.- Have Xwindows rpm utility. Where can I found this.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>




Re: [newbie] Using com5?

2001-03-20 Thread Charley & Peggy Robinson

Hi Barb,

  Go to http://www.unionbuiltbox.com/modem for instructions on how to
set your modem up in L-M.  This worked for me on a 3Com/USR 5610
hardware modem.

  Cheers,

  CR




Re: [newbie] grub

2001-03-20 Thread Adam Greene

The lastest versions of LILO will be more than happy to boot beyond the 1024
barrier.

- Original Message -
From: "The Eclectic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] grub


> You probably have NTFS on your NT4 system partition which LM would use to
> install Lilo. I mean your C drive
> should be a fat16 partition (that you could use for W95 or W98) then D
drive
> can use NT4 with NTFS if you want,
> and last LM and Lilo will be happy to coexist with these two.
> Use PQ magic to create 3 partitions from the beginning of
> of your HD:
> fisrt your Fat
> 2nd your swap and linux (LM won't boot if too far, >1024 cylinder)
> 3rd your NT4 partition.
> Good Luck. Let me if it works for you.
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jean-Louis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] grub
>
>
> > Did you do a "fdisk /mbr" to clean to boot sector?
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >  Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4.  Really
> messed
> > > up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried
fdisk
> and
> > > format to no avail. Just want to  install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any
> one
> > > please give me some info?  VERY new to Linux.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > >Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _
> > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> >
> >
>
>
>





RE: [newbie] Can't mount CDRom / CDWriter

2001-03-20 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] Can't mount CDRom / CDWriter





Check out the demos page below, if you haven't already. It gives step by step how to set up a cdrom and cdrw combination.

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Liu
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Can't mount CDRom / CDWriter



Hi all people,


I have a CDROM and a CDWriter installed running Mandrake 7.2.  Using KDE I 
create an icon for CDROM with following steps;


right click on KDE desktop > Create New >  CDRom device > Device


in Device drop-down list - select  /mnt/cdrom
in Mount Point - select   /mnt/cdrom
File System Type : Supermount
then click OK


An CDRom icon then created on desktop.  I tried to mount the CDROM by :


right click on "CDROM Device" icon > select mount
It mounts the floppy (the floppy drive light glows) but can't mount the CDRom


(same happens to my CDWriter)


FILE


/etc/fstab


/dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2 0 0
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0


Kindly help.  Thanks in advance.


Stephen






Re: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???

2001-03-20 Thread Dave

Search at freshmeat.net for LinNeighborhood. It's a graphical Samba client 
that allows you to see, browse, and mount shared directories and devices.

Dave

At 07:22 AM 3/20/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Is there a way to graphically see all PC's on a network? Like Network
>Neighborhood in Winblows. I have a small LAN at home and I want to set up
>some file sharing. I didn't know if it could be done this way or if I had to
>mount the drive to see it...
>
>Much thanks,
>Moose

0101 1010 0111 01101100 0110 01100111   01101001 
01110011   01100100 01100101 0111 01100100   01001110 0110 01101110 
01100111   01101100 01101001 01110110 01100101   01100100 01101001 01100111 
01101001 01110100 0111 01101100
(Go figure it out.)





RE: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???

2001-03-20 Thread Kelly, Christopher

How do I run komba?

-Original Message-
From: iagoba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???


you got Komba in KDE and Gnomba in Gnome 
but GNomba don't works very fine I think.

Kelly, Christopher wrote:

> Is there a way to graphically see all PC's on a network? Like Network
> Neighborhood in Winblows. I have a small LAN at home and I want to set up
> some file sharing. I didn't know if it could be done this way or if I had
to
> mount the drive to see it...
> 
> Much thanks,
> Moose





Re: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???

2001-03-20 Thread Dan LaBine

While you're at it, check out xsmbrowser and LinNeighborhood. Both are
available at www.rpmfind.net
If you decide to install LinNeighborhood, download "gettext" from
rpmfind.net atthe same time, and install it first!


- Original Message -
From: iagoba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???


> you got Komba in KDE and Gnomba in Gnome
> but GNomba don't works very fine I think.
>
> Kelly, Christopher wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to graphically see all PC's on a network? Like Network
> > Neighborhood in Winblows. I have a small LAN at home and I want to set
up
> > some file sharing. I didn't know if it could be done this way or if I
had to
> > mount the drive to see it...
> >
> > Much thanks,
> > Moose
>
>





RE: [newbie] Hard drive not found?

2001-03-20 Thread Charles A Edwards





>Hi

>I'm trying to install 7.2 on an AMD Thunderbird with an ASUS A7V mother
board. I have a hard drive where 20 out of 30Gb are used for Windows, which
is working just fine. I have saved the remaining unpartitioned 10Gb for
Linux. When I try to install 7.2 however, I get the following message when I
reach the point in the installation program where I'm supposed to partition
the hard drive and set up the filesystem: "An error has occured - no valid
devices were found on which to create new filesystems. Please check your
hardware for the couse of this problem". And then I can't do anything else
than just exit the install. I've tried to boot directly from the CD, from a
boot disk, I've tried to run text mode install and in expert mode, but
nothing works.


Please send in plain text rather than HTML.

The problem you are having is caused by the fact that the installation does
not recognize
the onboard Promise ATA100 controller and therefore can not see your hds.

  Here is what will work on most systems,
At the installation splash screen press F1 and at the boot prompt (it will
be at the bottom of the screen) enter the following:
 lspci -vv | less
use the space bar to scroll down until you find your Promise controller.

You will see 5 heximal number strings showing the I/Os for the controller,
write down the first 4 sets (call them a,b,c,and d). Reboot your system.

At the installation splash screen press F1 and at the boot prompt enter:
linux ide2=0x8400, 0x8002 ide3=0x7800, 0x74002
These are from my system you will need to enter yours.
The formula to use is ide2=a, (b+2) ide3=c (d+2).

If there are no other problems the installation should then run.

Charles

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.





Re: [newbie] Network Neighborhood???

2001-03-20 Thread iagoba

you got Komba in KDE and Gnomba in Gnome 
but GNomba don't works very fine I think.

Kelly, Christopher wrote:

> Is there a way to graphically see all PC's on a network? Like Network
> Neighborhood in Winblows. I have a small LAN at home and I want to set up
> some file sharing. I didn't know if it could be done this way or if I had to
> mount the drive to see it...
> 
> Much thanks,
> Moose





[newbie] Network Neighborhood???

2001-03-20 Thread Kelly, Christopher

Is there a way to graphically see all PC's on a network? Like Network
Neighborhood in Winblows. I have a small LAN at home and I want to set up
some file sharing. I didn't know if it could be done this way or if I had to
mount the drive to see it...

Much thanks,
Moose






Re: [newbie] Hard drive not found?

2001-03-20 Thread Jennifer Davis


Someone may be able to answer this better than me, but I believe that
linux must start in the first 4000 blocks, or maybe it's the first 4 gigs 
of a hard drive in order to boot.  I ran into this problem myself when I
tried to get win98 and slackware to share a large hard drive.

Jennifer



On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter Guzikowski wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I'm trying to install 7.2 on an AMD Thunderbird with an ASUS A7V mother board. I 
>have a hard drive where 20 out of 30Gb are used for Windows, which is working just 
>fine. I have saved the remaining unpartitioned 10Gb for Linux. When I try to install 
>7.2 however, I get the following message when I reach the point in the installation 
>program where I'm supposed to partition the hard drive and set up the filesystem: "An 
>error has occured - no valid devices were found on which to create new filesystems. 
>Please check your hardware for the couse of this problem". And then I can't do 
>anything else than just exit the install. I've tried to boot directly from the CD, 
>from a boot disk, I've tried to run text mode install and in expert mode, but nothing 
>works.
> 





[newbie] mac terminal

2001-03-20 Thread Jenn Davis

Hi,
I was playing with my computer and thought, why not add my 12 year
old mac to my network so that we have a machine for email, ice, etc. So I
got the cables needed and connected the two computers,  So far everything 
is working ok.  If I run zterm in the mac and minicom in the linux
machine, what I type in either computer appears on both screens.  I am not
sure how to do the next step wich is to make the computer running LM7,2
the server.  I tried reading the mac terminal mini-howto, but that left me
more confused.  Are there any suggestions?


Jenn





Re: [newbie] Hard drive not found?

2001-03-20 Thread Thomas Adam

Hi,

Have you partitioned your remaining 10GB before you
tried to install Linux Mandrake??? 

On the CD is Partition Magic which should help solve
your problem.

If you need anymore help, let me know...
Regards,

Thomas Adam

--- Peter Guzikowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
Hi
> 
> I'm trying to install 7.2 on an AMD Thunderbird with
> an ASUS A7V mother board. I have a hard drive where
> 20 out of 30Gb are used for Windows, which is
> working just fine. I have saved the remaining
> unpartitioned 10Gb for Linux. When I try to install
> 7.2 however, I get the following message when I
> reach the point in the installation program where
> I'm supposed to partition the hard drive and set up
> the filesystem: "An error has occured - no valid
> devices were found on which to create new
> filesystems. Please check your hardware for the
> couse of this problem". And then I can't do anything
> else than just exit the install. I've tried to boot
> directly from the CD, from a boot disk, I've tried
> to run text mode install and in expert mode, but
> nothing works.
> 


=
Thomas Adam
Linux Co-ordinator for The Purbeck School

e-mail (school): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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