Re: [newbie-it] Audiogalaxy
Ciao! Sì che l'ho scompattato ma quando lo esguo (proprio come hai detto tu) mi dice che non può eseguirlo... Per ora lo sto usanodo su winzozz :-((( Adios CaMiX - Original Message - From: sak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Audiogalaxy P.S. Ma il file .tar che hai scaricato , lo hai scompattato?? Ciao. - Original Message - From: CaMiX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux ML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Audiogalaxy Ciao. Scusa ma da terminale cosa lanci? Io ho provato con AGSatellite, con AGSatellite-static e entrambi preceduti da sh, ma nulla. Come diavolo lo devo lanciare? Adios Thanx CaMiX
[newbie-it] Microfono
Salve, ho saputo che con il comando rec si pu' far qualcosa per tentare di registrare brani usando un microfono. qualcuno ha esperienza in merito (o magari con qualche altro tool per la registrazione da microfono ?). Grazie anticipate, Alberto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R: [newbie-it] internet via satellite
Se e' come Netsystem siamo a posto.:-((( Non credo che sia come Netsystem, perchè sono partiti più o meno insieme, ma tuttora sono ancora in fase beta (cioè sono andati molto + cauti con promesse di megabit); inoltre fanno parte di una società seria come Eutelsat, e il servizio a cui mirano, oltre al privato sono le aziende. ciao a tutti!
Re: [newbie-it] Mailreader + gpg
Il 18:43, giovedì 26 luglio 2001, hai scritto: Sylpheed supporta il gpg pero' io non l' ho mai usato; come mailreader pero' e' insuperabile (a mio avviso, naturalmente;-) Vero, ottimo mailreader, ma purtroppo il supporto al gpg e` ancora in fase di sviluppo... e a me non funziona per niente :(( -- Ciao Mr_Brain - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] [newbie] Modem Us Robotics
Salve a tutti, mi chiamo Nicola, e sono un nuovissimo utente Linux, ho appena installato la Mandrake 8.0 su un Duron 700 con scheda nvidia. Vorrei chiedere alcuni consigli a chi può rispondermi. Sono riuscito, leggendo le vostre mail a configurare + o - la mia Geforce 256 (con la versione 1.0) ma come ho letto da alcuni di voi non riesco a far partire Tuxracer. Il programma termina senza alcun apparente motivo. Qualcuno sa il motivo? Vorrei tanto riuscire a connettermi a Internet tramite Linux, ma per qualche motivo non riesco a farlo. Il programma Kppp rileva il modem (us Roboticsswedeen 28800), e i comandi ci sono tutti (non so se sono corretti, devo fornirveli?) e invia anche la chiamata, ma è come se non riuscisse a inviargli i miei dati, io ho provato vari provider (tiscali, Interfree, infostrada) ma con tutti il problema è il medesimo. Che differenza c'è tra l'autentificazione Pap e Chap? Devo impostare qualche parametro particolare? Ringrazio tutti dell'aiuto!
Re: [newbie] pretty graphical editor
On Friday 27 July 2001 14:57, Tim wrote:
I use ViM. It's helpful by changing the color letting me know my
tags are incorrect or I forgit something like a { or I haven't closed
the HTML with a or mess like that. I really like it. But I'm a vi
guy.
Is there a command to turn on the syntax highlighting in vim?
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] pretty graphical editor
It was Sat, 28 Jul 2001 02:58:36 -0400 when Bryan Tyson wrote:
I use ViM. It's helpful by changing the color letting me know my
tags are incorrect or I forgit something like a { or I haven't closed
the HTML with a or mess like that. I really like it. But I'm a vi
guy.
Is there a command to turn on the syntax highlighting in vim?
Yup. Edit your .vimrc and add
syntax on
Paul
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Re: [newbie] pretty graphical editor
It was Sat, 28 Jul 2001 02:58:36 -0400 when Bryan Tyson wrote:
I use ViM. It's helpful by changing the color letting me know my
tags are incorrect or I forgit something like a { or I haven't closed
the HTML with a or mess like that. I really like it. But I'm a vi
guy.
Is there a command to turn on the syntax highlighting in vim?
Yup. Edit your .vimrc and add
syntax on
Paul
--
Never go to a doctor whose office plants have died.
-Erma Bombeck
http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403
Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.1
** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
RE: [newbie] Strange X problem I have never had before. (damn thing crashed again.)
HUH That's a pretty long way to go IMHO... Why not just boot into text mode and rpm -e 'rpm -qa | grep aurora' -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:31 AM To: James S Bear; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: NEWBIE Mandrake List Subject: Re: [newbie] Strange X problem I have never had before. (damn thing crashed again.) Don't use Aurora -- it's more trouble than it's worth. Do a fresh reinstall (just in case), making sure to format (but _don't_ low-level format as James suggested below!) the partition before installing. When you get to choose the boot loader, choose either LILO or GRUB, but _without_ graphics (i.e. text-only). Your bootup may not look as pretty but at least it should work. On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:13, James S Bear wrote: I've had this same problem. The only way I've found to cure it is to do a low-level format and start all over. This brings to my mind a question: How efficient is the formatting of ext2? Compared to a dos format, it takes next to no time. I've always been taught that haste makes waste, but I understand that possibly it is just easier to format ext2. Can anybody explain to me why it takes so much less time to format ext2? jim Quoting Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, just wondering if anyone can give me any ideas on this: The system: 200 Ppro 64mb ram. S3Virge 2MB ReiserFS The Problem: System boots in vga=788 mode with Aurora perfectly. when starting x, (after using drakconf and trying progressively lower res and color) the system locks up tight.. monitor starts flashing no sync signal and CTRL-ALT-DEL, or CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or anything else works either.. altough the number lock and caps key lights are still working, so it doesn't look like a total lockup.. can't switch to another terminal either.. Latest problem, after another crash, this time haing tried 640x480 bit,,, the system is reporting this no boot (unsucessful boot I might add. INIT: version 2.78 booting INIT: /etc/inittab[6]: id field too long (max 4 characters) INIT: /etc/inittab[7]: id missing action field a heap of other stuff like that,,, then : Enter runlevel: no mater what I select, it tells me INIT: no more processes left on this runlevel anyone know how to fix that? I have just reinstalled this thing 3 times, don't want to make it 4 if it can be avoided.. The daft thing was, I had KDE running perfectly, had upgraded the kernel to 2.2.19 and did all my usual config stuff.. Then I tried to load aurora, got that working, then X disappeared, and now it appears that I have had a data coruption as well. This is not going well at all... any help, suggestions, general cursing,, anything at all is most welcome.. regards Frank Ignorance is underrated -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] lib conflicts for XFree86-4.1.0
try : rpm -ivh blahblahblah.rpm --nodeps --force - Original Message - From: D. Hoyem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:32 AM Subject: [newbie] lib conflicts for XFree86-4.1.0 Well here I was doing a urpmi of XFree86-4.1.0, 101M of download, from Cooker and got it all downloaded to /var/cache/urpmi/RPMS and it was installing then I get this message gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicks with glibc-dev-2.2.3-5mdk Installation failed Try without checking dependencies(y/N) I chose N. 1. What is the proper way to resolve this dependency? 2. After you all tell me how to resolve this, what is the command that I use to do the install again? 3. Once I get this to work I was going to burn those files to a CD with it and bring it home, copy it to /var/cache ... what would be the command to install it then? Thanks in advance for the help. Don __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] ATTENTION all newbies!
There's no need to bother with this. Both GNOME and KDE have their own PDF viewers (ggv and kghostview respectively) which use GhostScript for the translation. There is also xpdf, which can read some files that the others can't (since it doesn't use GhostScript). On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:31, Romanator wrote: John, You will need the following: acroread 4.0.5-6mdk and acroread-nppdf 4.0.5-6mdk (for Netscape plugin) Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey John Rigby wrote: Hi Sridhar, In its default state, my M8 won't recognise PDF format. Guess I'll have to install it - so many people use the silly thing today... :-) But I would have thought it would have been a default. On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:21, you manipulated electrons to produce: IBM have just released a great FAQ titled Transitioning from Windows to Linux. I had a look at it and it appears quite Newbie-friendly: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-faq/?openl=2 52,t=grl,p=LinuxFAQ -- Cheers, John http://counter.li.org GO HERE IF YOU SUPPORT LINUX! Fablor is now Webhosting?? What on earth for?? Info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's only an Autoresponder) :-) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Delivery Receipts
KMail can request both read and delivery receipts if you like. I use that feature all the time. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:19, Kevin Fonner wrote: No... You didnt read my email carefully. What you described was a read receipt. These are common to most mail clients, and your right! They are a real pain when used for anything except important emails. I am talking about a DELIVERY receipts. They are not returned by the user but by the mail server. I know Microsoft Outlook has them when you use Exchange server. I find them very valuable. I was wondering if any clients or client/servers have this feature? Carroll Grigsby wrote: Kevin: Netscape provides several options for this; don't know about other mail programs. Go Edit Preferences Return Receipt. I'm not sure how effective it is, though. Several weeks ago I sent an important document and requested a receipt. The doc went through, but I never got a receipt. It turned out that the server at the other end stripped all receipt requests from external mail. However, please make sure that you don't ask for receipts when posting to this list. It's a real pain, causes a lot of unnecessary traffic, and may result in some nasty messages back to you. Regards, Carroll Kevin Fonner wrote: When I was running Windows I used Outlook 2000 and we have a MSExchange server. On outlook I could choose to get a delivery receipt(I don mean read receipts). I always hated those read reciepts except on sesitive documents. When I would check delivery reciept I would get an email back stating that my mail server had succesfully delivered it into the mailbox on so and so on this mail server. Is their a way to do that with linux? Either with a client or a client/server combination? -- Kevin -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] DVD
I came up with an old Hitachi GD-2000 DVD Player and a Quadrant International PCI Decoder. Simple question really...how do I get it to work in Linux? System: Dual Celeron 533's Abit BP16 motherboard 256 megs of ram 16 meg ATI Rage Pro CDRom 40 and 20 gig Western Digital UDMA 66 drives AWE64 Soundcard Running Mandrak 7.2 Let me know if anyone needs more info :) Thanks a ton! NowellGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Strange X problem I have never had before. (damn thing crashed again.)
I only suggested a reinstall because there appears to be a number of things wrong with Frank's system. I don't know if they are all Aurora-related, and I'm not sure if they will all go away once Aurora is uninstalled. Often, a system can look fine even when it isn't (and is slowly dying). Aurora (or something else) _may_ (I'm not sure) have damaged the system configuration in some way. An Aurora uninstall may give the appearance of a cure, but there may still be some subtle problems. Because of this, a clean reinstall is the safest thing to do. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:52, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: HUH That's a pretty long way to go IMHO... Why not just boot into text mode and rpm -e 'rpm -qa | grep aurora' -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:31 AM To: James S Bear; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: NEWBIE Mandrake List Subject: Re: [newbie] Strange X problem I have never had before. (damn thing crashed again.) Don't use Aurora -- it's more trouble than it's worth. Do a fresh reinstall (just in case), making sure to format (but _don't_ low-level format as James suggested below!) the partition before installing. When you get to choose the boot loader, choose either LILO or GRUB, but _without_ graphics (i.e. text-only). Your bootup may not look as pretty but at least it should work. On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:13, James S Bear wrote: I've had this same problem. The only way I've found to cure it is to do a low-level format and start all over. This brings to my mind a question: How efficient is the formatting of ext2? Compared to a dos format, it takes next to no time. I've always been taught that haste makes waste, but I understand that possibly it is just easier to format ext2. Can anybody explain to me why it takes so much less time to format ext2? jim Quoting Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, just wondering if anyone can give me any ideas on this: The system: 200 Ppro 64mb ram. S3Virge 2MB ReiserFS The Problem: System boots in vga=788 mode with Aurora perfectly. when starting x, (after using drakconf and trying progressively lower res and color) the system locks up tight.. monitor starts flashing no sync signal and CTRL-ALT-DEL, or CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or anything else works either.. altough the number lock and caps key lights are still working, so it doesn't look like a total lockup.. can't switch to another terminal either.. Latest problem, after another crash, this time haing tried 640x480 bit,,, the system is reporting this no boot (unsucessful boot I might add. INIT: version 2.78 booting INIT: /etc/inittab[6]: id field too long (max 4 characters) INIT: /etc/inittab[7]: id missing action field a heap of other stuff like that,,, then : Enter runlevel: no mater what I select, it tells me INIT: no more processes left on this runlevel anyone know how to fix that? I have just reinstalled this thing 3 times, don't want to make it 4 if it can be avoided.. The daft thing was, I had KDE running perfectly, had upgraded the kernel to 2.2.19 and did all my usual config stuff.. Then I tried to load aurora, got that working, then X disappeared, and now it appears that I have had a data coruption as well. This is not going well at all... any help, suggestions, general cursing,, anything at all is most welcome.. regards Frank Ignorance is underrated -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] lib conflicts for XFree86-4.1.0
Do NOT do this! This can quite possibly screw up your system, since glibc and gcc are such an important packages. The --nodeps and --force tags can be very dangerous. Only use them if you really know what you're doing. Try upgrading the gcc and glibc packages before you run urpmi for XFree86-4.1.0. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:00, james wrote: try : rpm -ivh blahblahblah.rpm --nodeps --force - Original Message - From: D. Hoyem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:32 AM Subject: [newbie] lib conflicts for XFree86-4.1.0 Well here I was doing a urpmi of XFree86-4.1.0, 101M of download, from Cooker and got it all downloaded to /var/cache/urpmi/RPMS and it was installing then I get this message gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicks with glibc-dev-2.2.3-5mdk Installation failed Try without checking dependencies(y/N) I chose N. 1. What is the proper way to resolve this dependency? 2. After you all tell me how to resolve this, what is the command that I use to do the install again? 3. Once I get this to work I was going to burn those files to a CD with it and bring it home, copy it to /var/cache ... what would be the command to install it then? Thanks in advance for the help. Don -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration
this looks to me as if you might have the wrong type of login setup. does your ISP use chap, pap, or script. is your password and login name correct 9including caps?) the time out setting may also be the answer. On Saturday 28 July 2001 00:01, Tom Malone wrote: Ok everyone, Sorry to drag you through another newbie-from-windows-convert-transition - I'm sure it was painful enough for you all the first time you went through it ;) Anyway, I found a binary rpm driver that matched my distribution and kernel, installed it, and had some success. However, it dropped the connection (some PPP problem it says). Here is what happened, step-by-step, after i clicked OK in the KPPP dialogue box: Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: pppd 2.4.0 started by tom, uid 501 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 27 23:55:37 localhost pppd[1098]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyLT0 Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Modem hangup Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Connection terminated. Jul 27 23:55:55 localhost pppd[1098]: Exit. Again - i'm sorry if this turns out to be something simple, but I REALLY appreciate your help! Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 23:09, you wrote: Dennis, It is a winModem, and I am using KPPP in the KDE desktop. The KPPP configuration dialogue says the modem is on /dev/modem, if that help.. I am completely new to this linux stuff - I don't know how to change the port the modem is on, and I am really confused (and not just a little afraid :) ) by the prospect of having to compile some linmodem driver software.. Tom -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem Configuration On Friday 27 July 2001 19:18, you wrote: I am having a lot of trouble configuring my modem. One problem is that I have never used Linux before - today is my first day. I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and I don't know where to go to configure the modem. During install I told the configuration program that the modem was on COM2 (which i thought was correct, but i could be wrong) - other than that, I don't know what info I can provide to help anyone determine what I did wrong. I would be really grateful for any advice! TIA Tom Malone What brand name is the modem? If it is on com2 in windows then you should set it up as ttyS1 on linux. ports start as ttyS0(com1), ttyS1(com2)etc. If it is a so called controllerless internal modem then it is a winmodem and you may have a problem unless you find the linmodem drivers. If it is an external modem no USB you should be ok. Are you using KPPP in the KDE desktop? A little more info would help if the above does not correct the problem. We'll be waiting : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 That makes the problem a bit more difficult, I have never used a winmodem and my advice would be to get a real modem external, and serial connection to your computer. However, don't panic, relax, you are looking straight on at the learning curve. I was there one year ago or so. Now, the url for the linmodems support I do not know, so someone please repost it for Tom. Then the compilation help needed is also here on the list cause there are several people who have done it or know how. I call for there support also. You will learn so much in the next few weeks and months, and sometimes the frustration may get to you, but hang in there it is worth the ride. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] Strange X problem I have never had before. (damn thing crashed again.)
I agree with Sridhar, do NOT LOW level format, do an expert install, FORMAT and chose the check box for check for bad sectors while formating. it will take a little longer. EXT2 and reiser both fromat and run much quicker than fat, and are no where as likely to try and write to a botched inode as FAT based systems. the only other chose may be to try and rescue from the install CD On Saturday 28 July 2001 05:54, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I only suggested a reinstall because there appears to be a number of things wrong with Frank's system. I don't know if they are all Aurora-related, and I'm not sure if they will all go away once Aurora is uninstalled. Often, a system can look fine even when it isn't (and is slowly dying). Aurora (or something else) _may_ (I'm not sure) have damaged the system configuration in some way. An Aurora uninstall may give the appearance of a cure, but there may still be some subtle problems. Because of this, a clean reinstall is the safest thing to do. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:52, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: HUH That's a pretty long way to go IMHO... Why not just boot into text mode and rpm -e 'rpm -qa | grep aurora' -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:31 AM To: James S Bear; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: NEWBIE Mandrake List Subject: Re: [newbie] Strange X problem I have never had before. (damn thing crashed again.) Don't use Aurora -- it's more trouble than it's worth. Do a fresh reinstall (just in case), making sure to format (but _don't_ low-level format as James suggested below!) the partition before installing. When you get to choose the boot loader, choose either LILO or GRUB, but _without_ graphics (i.e. text-only). Your bootup may not look as pretty but at least it should work. On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:13, James S Bear wrote: I've had this same problem. The only way I've found to cure it is to do a low-level format and start all over. This brings to my mind a question: How efficient is the formatting of ext2? Compared to a dos format, it takes next to no time. I've always been taught that haste makes waste, but I understand that possibly it is just easier to format ext2. Can anybody explain to me why it takes so much less time to format ext2? jim Quoting Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, just wondering if anyone can give me any ideas on this: The system: 200 Ppro 64mb ram. S3Virge 2MB ReiserFS The Problem: System boots in vga=788 mode with Aurora perfectly. when starting x, (after using drakconf and trying progressively lower res and color) the system locks up tight.. monitor starts flashing no sync signal and CTRL-ALT-DEL, or CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or anything else works either.. altough the number lock and caps key lights are still working, so it doesn't look like a total lockup.. can't switch to another terminal either.. Latest problem, after another crash, this time haing tried 640x480 bit,,, the system is reporting this no boot (unsucessful boot I might add. INIT: version 2.78 booting INIT: /etc/inittab[6]: id field too long (max 4 characters) INIT: /etc/inittab[7]: id missing action field a heap of other stuff like that,,, then : Enter runlevel: no mater what I select, it tells me INIT: no more processes left on this runlevel anyone know how to fix that? I have just reinstalled this thing 3 times, don't want to make it 4 if it can be avoided.. The daft thing was, I had KDE running perfectly, had upgraded the kernel to 2.2.19 and did all my usual config stuff.. Then I tried to load aurora, got that working, then X disappeared, and now it appears that I have had a data coruption as well. This is not going well at all... any help, suggestions, general cursing,, anything at all is most welcome.. regards Frank Ignorance is underrated
Re: [newbie] Apparently small challenge
is there no CDrom in the network? 3 gigs will be A LOT of floppies to get the whole sheeebang into your machines. do you have a fast internet connection? there are alternet boot.img for installing from the network. where are you getting mandrake from will have a lot to do with what boot.img you will need. On Friday 27 July 2001 22:43, Marcos Nobre wrote: Hi all. Imagine a sub-network with 10 windows-boxes. These machines does not have DD and it does not contain CDROM drive. Simply they are connected in the same network. Its HDs measures 10gb and contains windows-ME installed as primary operational system. In these conditions, how can I would install Linux OS (MDK8) on these boxes ? Remember that winme does not allow F8 to get a MS-Dos for partitioning or things like this. Can any one help me with this ? Thanks in advance. Marcos Nobre
Re: [newbie] UTC Time Standards
I've noticed this as well. I have configured cron to periodically use ntpdate to update my system time from an NTP server. This sets my clock to UTC, which is supposed to be translated by the time zone settings so that the display is correct. However, I have found that this is not the case. I have managed to get the time translated correctly in BASH and in X (using environment variables), but cron is still on UTC. I have tried placing my time zone environment variable in /etc/profile, but this does nothing. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 00:10, SoloCDM wrote: I don't know why my system continues to display UTC time standards. My /etc/sysconfig/clock has the following settings: ARC=false UTC=false ZONE=US/Mountain What am I missing? It's as if /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit is not making the right conversions! -- Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list/newsgroup address and my email address in To:. * Signed, SoloCDM -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] login problem
On Friday 27 July 2001 08:47, etharp wrote: well, we can look at the logs, if you want, or we could create a new user from the text prompt, and see how it logs in. per this suggestion, I pulled /var/log/syslog and compared a failed login to a good one, and see one difference. Below are the last few lines from a failed login. I have more if we need them: Jul 28 06:55:34 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4 Jul 28 06:55:38 localhost last message repeated 35 times Jul 28 06:55:38 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-180 Jul 28 06:55:40 localhost last message repeated 24 times Jul 28 06:56:47 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 28 06:57:03 localhost last message repeated 3 times On a successful login, localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- is repeated only two times, then I get the same messge for a collection of sound-* modules. The can't find char-major-* message repeat the same number of times regardless of whether the login works or doesn't. Meanwhile, I am successful in logging in via console mode if I do a 'restart in console mode'. Incidentally, the failed login has gone from the previous exception to the rule, to where I have to make multiple attempts, including powering down, to get signed in. I did reinstall my printer last night, and fixed my halt problem per someone else's documentation here. I assume the now it is safe to turn off your computer is a windoze specific message, since I never see that. I get to a message saying that the system is stopped after what seem to be all the shutdown messages complete ok. On Friday 27 July 2001 09:05, root wrote: On Friday 27 July 2001 04:43, etharp wrote: is this while you wait to login? have you installed mandrake security and what level? (paranoid?) or a firewall? what reaction are you expecting? i was expecting no reaction, since I had never heard of that method of logging on before. I hit alt-f4 at the point where otherwise I would enter root and my password and hit go. The original problem when attempting to login via the normal login panel, I sometimes was bounced back to the login panel without getting logged in, and when that happened had to reboot before being successful at logging in. When installing, I took the defaults for security and the firewall. Before altering those, I'll want an explanation of why the bounce occurs only some of the time instead of every time. It seems to me if it was a security or firewall problem, the bounce would be consistent instead of sporadic. On Friday 27 July 2001 00:48, root wrote: On Thursday 26 July 2001 16:34, etharp wrote: what happens if you hit ctrl+alt+f4 (or any other f-key up to f6) and log in? nothing. no reaction at all -- Gentlemen, it's in beta. That means it's like Windows. They're letting you test it while they continue to screw it up until it's totally useless. (Bigg Fredd in RCC talking about Google's temporary interface to the deja archives) -- -- Gentlemen, it's in beta. That means it's like Windows. They're letting you test it while they continue to screw it up until it's totally useless. (Bigg Fredd in RCC talking about Google's temporary interface to the deja archives)
[newbie] HOWTO access root functions as a normal user
I have found that I have had to explain the usage of su, kdesu and sudo several times recently. To those who are curious, here are some pages explaining them: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/admin/aroot.html http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/admin/aroot2.html While you're there, take a look around the rest of http://www.mandrakeuser.org/. It is an _excellent_ site, and should be a first-stop for newbies. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] Debugging print jobs
Try opening kups or qtcups and configuring your printer from there. Make sure that your printer is online (i.e. through CUPS), and print a test page (the page is a postscript file) when you're done. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 23:56, Mark Shaw wrote: Still nothing. The xpp window just goes away after the 'print' button is pressed. My test PostScript file (non-pcal) printed just fine with xpp. I took a look at /var/log/syslog and there's nothing at all there that suggests anything If printing is correctly configured for everything else, try running xpp filename.ps. On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:01, Mark Shaw wrote: I downloaded and installed a pretty cool calendar application (pcal, to be exact) that produces PostScript calendars in various formats. I have verified that 1) The output of pcal prints just fine under Solaris 2.7 2) My Mandrake 7.2 box is able to print PostScript produced by other applications However, PostScript produced by pcal apparently just goes to the bit bucket on the Mandrake box. No stuck print job; the printer (Epson Stylus Color) doesn't move; nothing. Where should I begin debugging this? Thanks -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] Upgrading RPMs with source
If, for instance, I have the KDE 2.0 packages (RPM, of course) installed...and I download the KDE 2.1 source code (instead of the RPMs), what should I do? Should I uninstall (rpm -e) the KDE 2.0 packages *before* compiling installing the 2.1 source code (but then wouldn't any new app's RPMs designed for *only* KDE 2.1 and above, refuse to install because KDE 2.1 doesn't look like it's been installed, to the RPM program?)? Or can I just compile install the 2.1 source over the RPMs (but wouldn't RPM get confused or annoyed?)?. I am asking these questions because some of my recent upgrades (including X 4.0.3, xmms, KDE 2.2, sawfish etc.) have been exhibiting unusual behaviour, to say the least. These were installed by just overwriting the current installation and not telling RPM. Thanks, George
[newbie] Shared /home directory
When using a shared /home directory in Mandrake and Libranet, will a new user name that is created in one system be available in the other system? And, if a new application is added to the /home directory in one system, will it be available in the other system? Further, during the installation of the two systems with a shared /home directory, what happens when their individual /home directories are installed into that shared directory? Isn't the first /home partition wiped out by formatting during the installation of the second system?
Re: [newbie] Network help needed!
sure what distro are you using? On Saturday 28 July 2001 08:45, Steve Maytum wrote: Anyone able to help a dizzy (gone round in circles so often!) PC user set up a small home network with 'net connection? Any help appreciated Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Network help needed!
On July 28, 2001 08:45 am, Steve Maytum wrote: Anyone able to help a dizzy (gone round in circles so often!) PC user set up a small home network with 'net connection? Any help appreciated Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the problem, what version of Linux, what hardware is involved, and what type of Internet connection, eh?
[newbie] Strange Disk Access Messages
Hello!
I was accessing (find command) my E: a while ago (hdb6), and I got this:
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=42366,
sector=407538
What is this? Is my disk stuffed?
I saw something in the kernel (2.4.4) compile options thing (make xconfig)
that said it would fix something similar to this:
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE:
If you get this error, try to say Y here:
hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
If in doubt, say N.
Should I turn this on and compile? I'm currently using Mandrake 7.2's
2.2.17
kernel.
Thanks,
George
Re: [newbie] Shared /home directory
At 09:26 AM 07/28/2001 -0400, alex wrote: When using a shared /home directory in Mandrake and Libranet, will a new user name that is created in one system be available in the other system? No, the user names will not be available cross-distro, because you will not have the same /etc/passwd, and /etc/shadow, since I wouldn't suggest using the same / partition for both distros. And, if a new application is added to the /home directory in one system, will it be available in the other system? If you are talking about software, not necessarily. It depends on whether or not the libraries are the same between the two distros. Further, during the installation of the two systems with a shared /home directory, what happens when their individual /home directories are installed into that shared directory? Isn't the first /home partition wiped out by formatting during the installation of the second system? Unless you choose to format /home, no. Before you install the second distro, boot into Libranet (which I would suggest installing first, since I'm not sure how it behaves during installation), and write down what partition (/dev/hd[a-d][1-10]) the /home partition is on. This should be in the /etc/fstab file. When you install Mandrake, select that partition as the /home, and make sure it is de-selected when it asks which partitions you want to format. -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Re: [newbie] make command not found - where is it?
This means that you haven't installed the make-*.i586.rpm, which should be included on your CD(s). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 04:42 PM 07/28/2001 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete on my PC, it works so far. I now wanted to install a new application I got from the internet as tar file. After untaring it I followed the installation instruction. The first step was to type 'make'. And what happened? I got the error message: 'bash: make: command not found' I issued a find to look for the make command, but there is no make command. I tried the same on a RedHat installation I have and it worked there and by the way the make command there is under /usr/bin. But under Mandrake there is nothing. I think I must be doing somethin wrong, I don't believe, that it is not possible to install applications using make under Mandrake Linux complete. Can somebody help? -- GMXler aufgepasst - jetzt viele 11 New WebHosting Pakete ohne Setupfee + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung! http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00717T0492a
Re: [newbie] make command not found - where is it?
as I remember it, in 7.0 unless you did the developer (as opposed to server or desktop/workstation) you might not have gotten all the packages. I believe you can upgrade from the cds. On Saturday 28 July 2001 10:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 Complete on my PC, it works so far. I now wanted to install a new application I got from the internet as tar file. After untaring it I followed the installation instruction. The first step was to type 'make'. And what happened? I got the error message: 'bash: make: command not found' I issued a find to look for the make command, but there is no make command. I tried the same on a RedHat installation I have and it worked there and by the way the make command there is under /usr/bin. But under Mandrake there is nothing. I think I must be doing somethin wrong, I don't believe, that it is not possible to install applications using make under Mandrake Linux complete. Can somebody help?
Re: [newbie] Ping
a couple of possibilities, might be you got ping no running?? might be a firewall issue? and hey, what are you doing wrong anyway/ On Saturday 28 July 2001 10:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I got my netwqork set up all good, and when I ping the Linux server from the windows box it wont go, but I can ping the windows box from the Linux server. Its like a one way conversation between the computers, what am I doingwrong ~Lance
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RPMs with source
I would say you'd be much better off if you found the 2.1 SRPMS and did a rpm --rebuild, then installed the resulting rpms. True, but what if only had the pure .tar.gz source code? I would not suggest compiling from source unless there is a way to point it to /usr/local (such that it wouldn't overwrite any existing information you have). But isn't the whole purpose of upgrading to overwrite the current installation? I always point my upgrades to /usr in a deliberate attempt to overwrite/ugprade (i.e. ./configure --prefix=/usr). Thanks, George
Re: [newbie] pretty graphical editor
Romanator wrote: Check out Cooledit. Roman, Actually, I did once, but I'm looking again. I guess the scripts are the macros. The white text on a black background will kill me -- I can't (quickly) find a way to change it to black text on a white background. Is there a way? Didn't look for soft wrap or some other things and probably won't pending a way to change the color scheme. Thanks, Randy Kramer
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RPMs with source
At 01:33 AM 07/29/2001 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say you'd be much better off if you found the 2.1 SRPMS and did a rpm --rebuild, then installed the resulting rpms. True, but what if only had the pure .tar.gz source code? In that case, you can try running rpm -t filename.tar.gz --it doesn't always work, but would be much better in the long run. I would not suggest compiling from source unless there is a way to point it to /usr/local (such that it wouldn't overwrite any existing information you have). But isn't the whole purpose of upgrading to overwrite the current installation? I always point my upgrades to /usr in a deliberate attempt to overwrite/ugprade (i.e. ./configure --prefix=/usr). If you are going to upgrade like that, then you should make sure that you have a backup of the entire /usr before you compile kde from scratch. This way, if something goes wrong, it is much easier to restore the system to whatever condition it was in prior to the compile. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
[newbie] Mass-copying to different filenames
Hi! In, DOS, everyone knows that typing: copy *.txt *.doc Will make a copy of all .txt files but with a new extension, .doc Typing: copy secret*.txt lies*.txt Will make a copy of all .txt files starting with secret but with the name lies instead of secret. etc, etc, etc. The question is: How do you do this under Linux/bash? I understand that things like cp secret*.txt lies*.txt will not do it because of the way bash expands wildcard specifications (and can even have undesirable results if you have a folder matching the pattern lies*.txt, but that's another story :)). If DOS can do, I'm sure Linux can too! Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, George
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RPMs with source
At 01:33 AM 07/29/2001 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say you'd be much better off if you found the 2.1 SRPMS and did a rpm --rebuild, then installed the resulting rpms. True, but what if only had the pure .tar.gz source code? In that case, you can try running rpm -t filename.tar.gz --it doesn't always work, but would be much better in the long run. Ah, I see. I never though of that. Thanks! I would not suggest compiling from source unless there is a way to point it to /usr/local (such that it wouldn't overwrite any existing information you have). But isn't the whole purpose of upgrading to overwrite the current installation? I always point my upgrades to /usr in a deliberate attempt to overwrite/ugprade (i.e. ./configure --prefix=/usr). If you are going to upgrade like that, then you should make sure that you have a backup of the entire /usr before you compile kde from scratch. This way, if something goes wrong, it is much easier to restore the system to whatever condition it was in prior to the compile. Yes, looking back I definitely should have backed up but naturally didn't :) Still, doesn't RPM get confused if I just rudely overwrite KDE 2.0 with KDE 2.1 source? Thanks again, George
[newbie] Samba 2.2.0 for Mandrake 7.2,,,,,,,,Found it. LINUX ROCKS AS A DESKTOP :-) !!!
Hi everyone someone asked about recient samba compiled for mandrake 7.2 well I found 2.2.0, which is fairly new... here is the url, (I found this off the samba.org site.. if they have it, you'd think mandrake would offer it too, since it would be no hassle to add it to their mandrake update sites... anyway, here is the url. http://samba.planetmirror.com/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/Mandrake/7.2/RPMS/ After about 5 years of using linux for web servers, I am broaching new territory, I have a desktop box here which I am going to use as a workstation, and also a samba and NAT server for the house I just rediscovered Gimp, boy has it gotten better since RH4.x days,,, and I also just discovered ICEWM how good is that thing, looks excellent, fast as and small memory footprint (if you want to get an idea of what windows suXP looks like, try the 'ultracute' theme... very impressive. For the first time ever I am running linux in graphical mode only,, gotta admit, its not that bad... the fonts still suck in netscape, but I am guessing 8 fixes that.. (one of these days I'll care enough to try and fix it.. Now my question. is there a good GUI config for sambe apart from linuxconf and webmin ??? also, what happened to swat? I like to set things up the first time with a gui, and then look at the config files to work out what it did... regards Frank
Re: [newbie] pretty graphical editor
Randy Kramer wrote: The white text on a black background will kill me -- I can't (quickly) find a way to change it to black text on a white background. Is there a way? Ok, I found two ways to do it. CoolEdit looks somewhat broken in Mandrake 7.2 -- when you call up help it gives some error messages and, at first, I couldn't scroll down. Turns out that clicking below the elevator bar will not move it -- you can drag it or you can use PgDown/PgUp. Next question: Is there a way to select a portion of text with the mouse and then delete the higlighted selection? (I'll go back and look in help, now that I can make scroll it.) Thanks, Randy Kramer
Re: [newbie] Debugging print jobs
That works fine. I suspect the problem lies with the PostScript produced by pcal itself. I just tried opening it up in ghostview. It opens up fine and looks very nice, but I can't print it from ghostview either. Try opening kups or qtcups and configuring your printer from there. Make sure that your printer is online (i.e. through CUPS), and print a test page (the page is a postscript file) when you're done. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 23:56, Mark Shaw wrote: Still nothing. The xpp window just goes away after the 'print' button is pressed. My test PostScript file (non-pcal) printed just fine with xpp. I took a look at /var/log/syslog and there's nothing at all there that suggests anything If printing is correctly configured for everything else, try running xpp filename.ps. On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:01, Mark Shaw wrote: I downloaded and installed a pretty cool calendar application (pcal, to be exact) that produces PostScript calendars in various formats. I have verified that 1) The output of pcal prints just fine under Solaris 2.7 2) My Mandrake 7.2 box is able to print PostScript produced by other applications However, PostScript produced by pcal apparently just goes to the bit bucket on the Mandrake box. No stuck print job; the printer (Epson Stylus Color) doesn't move; nothing. Where should I begin debugging this? Thanks -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] E-mail Checkers- What program LM8 users use with kmail to check pop3 mail?
Well I use Kmail but I want to see if some important mail is incoming and I wnat to see the subject of the new email..is it possible?What program like this are in linux community? Which are the best with LM8freq? thanks to all
Re: [newbie] login problem
root wrote: On Friday 27 July 2001 08:47, etharp wrote: well, we can look at the logs, if you want, or we could create a new user from the text prompt, and see how it logs in. per this suggestion, I pulled /var/log/syslog and compared a failed login to a good one, and see one difference. Below are the last few lines from a failed login. I have more if we need them: Jul 28 06:55:34 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4 Jul 28 06:55:38 localhost last message repeated 35 times Jul 28 06:55:38 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-180 [...] [frans@localhost frans]$ cat /etc/modules.conf | grep 180 alias char-major-180 usb-ohci so it seems to have something to do with USB. The Can't locate module ... means just that: modprobe cannot find the module, it does not exist or it's in the wrong place. [frans@localhost frans]$ locate usb-ohci /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/usb/usb-ohci.o.gz Note the kernel version in the path. cat /proc/devices says char-major-4 is associated with ttyS. Maybe something with the keyboard? Sorry I have no solution just information. -Frans
[newbie] MandrakeUpdate
Hi, all! When I try to retrieve packages from wahtever source through MandrakeUpdate, Software Installer give me this error message: Bad, unreadable or not found packages - Sorry but all packages raised an error. so I can't proceed with the installation This happens since yesterday, before all worked fine... Any hint? Corrado
Re: [newbie] write permissions in gui.
Sridhar wrote: You mean it isn't intuitive for a Windos user? Then you are correct. For people who have been using *nix for a while this can be very intuitive. Whoa! Intuitive has nothing to do with what OS someone knows how to use. Intuitive means known or perceived through intuition. Intuition is the act or faculty of knowing or sensing without the use of rational processes. Intuitive does not mean easy, once you learn how. Command lines can never be intuitive because you have to *learn* the commands first. Dragging a file onto a printer icon in order to print is intuitive. You don't have to read anything to figure out that dragging a file onto a picture of a printer will probably result in its being printed. Writing copy /b thisfile.doc lpt1 at a DOS prompt is not intuitive, though it is easy, once you know how. I don't have a clue what you'd write at a Unix prompt because, gee, it isn't intuitive.g First time computer users can generally learn an OS like GNU/Linux much faster than a Windos user, since they don't expect everything to be like Windos. Do you have evidence to support this, other than wishful thinking and some anecdotes? Evidence would require gathering large, diverse groups of users, some of them new to computing, others experienced with Windows, giving them tasks to do in GNU/Linux, and observing what they go through and how long it takes for them to complete the tasks. You would also gather their impressions of how hard or easy it was to accomplish the tasks. I taught myself MS-DOS when I was three years old. Since I had no previous conceptions on what an OS should be like, I learned rather easily. Surely you must realize that you were a very unusual three-year-old. For one thing, you must have known how to read and spell, as well as how to use a keyboard. Most three-year-olds can't read and spell at all, or if at all, not well enough to use a text-based operating system like MS-DOS. And then, once you start it, what do you do with it? Most three-year-olds aren't interested in playing with commands at a command prompt.g They want to run Jumpstart Preschool or Reader Rabbit or Sesame Street. They want to do it the way my granddaughter does: start the computer; after Windows starts, put the CD into the CD-ROM drive; the program autostarts; click your way through it; click on whatever ends it when you're done--the voices tell you what to do. Want to run something else? Put that CD into the drive and repeat the above. Computers in 1985, which is probably about when you started, were a lot different than they are today, and so are operating systems. When I tried MacOS, a very user-friendly OS, I couldn't understand it, simply because it wasn't anything like what I had tried before. And how about after you had used Mac OS for an hour? It goes beyond first impressions to how long it takes a person to become a competent user. I kept an open mind, and now I find that I can't understand the logic (if there is any) in Windos, my previous OS of choice. Doesn't sound like the mind is too open with regard to Windows.g Did you ever feel you understood how Windows works? If so, what happened to change that? This seems contradictory to the advice to take each system as it stands, without making invidious comparisons to what you already know. When it comes to troubleshooting problems, often you will _have_ to use the command line. In Linux. Now. Hopefully not forever. Hopefully not in two years. Better yet, not in one year. In Windos, if something goes wrong, the user has no way of finding out what it is. This is because things are 100% graphical. I disagree. I think there are many ways of finding out what's wrong. You just have to learn how to do it--just like Linux! As a result, often the solution is to reinstall, and even this can't fix everything. A reinstall is seldom needed. The reason people use it so often is that they don't know what else to try. Users at this level wouldn't have a clue what to try in Linux, either. Also, new users are told by tech support of various computer manufacturers to use their recovery disk (which wipes everything and restores the system to what it was when they got it) because it's a lot less expensive (to the manufacturer) to get them back to square one than to try to figure out what may be wrong and simply fix that. Unfortunately, if the cause of the problem is a bad driver or a buggy program, the problem will be back as soon as they put it back on the system. If I may add a personal anecdote, I've been using Windows starting with 3.0 in 1991. In ten years, I've *never* had to reinstall any version of Windows because my system was messed up beyond my ability to figure it out. I also do not crash five times a day. I would not put up with frequent crashes. I'm not saying those who do have a lot of crashes are doing something wrong, just pointing out that crashes are not necessarily a part of the Windows experience. I am most certainly
Re: [newbie] write permissions in gui.
On Saturday 28 July 2001 06:48 pm, Judith Miner wrote: Sridhar wrote: I taught myself MS-DOS when I was three years old. Since I had no previous conceptions on what an OS should be like, I learned rather easily. Surely you must realize that you were a very unusual three-year-old. For one thing, you must have known how to read and spell, as well as how to use a keyboard. Most three-year-olds can't read and spell at all, or if at all, not well enough to use a text-based operating system like MS-DOS. And then, once you start it, what do you do with it? Most three-year-olds aren't interested in playing with commands at a command prompt.g They want to run Jumpstart Preschool or Reader Rabbit or Sesame Street. They want to do it the way my granddaughter does: start the computer; after Windows starts, put the CD into the CD-ROM drive; the program autostarts; click your way through it; click on whatever ends it when you're done--the voices tell you what to do. Want to run something else? Put that CD into the drive and repeat the above. Computers in 1985, which is probably about when you started, were a lot different than they are today, and so are operating systems. Sridhar, Is it true that you weren't allowed to use pointy objects like scissors? And, since then, fate had decided you enter the world of software rather than hardware? Ouch! Roman
Fwd: Re: [newbie] write permissions in gui.
lets try that again, an (off TOPIC) card, you need to be dealt with -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] write permissions in gui. Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:31:16 -0400 From: etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED], Judith Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] damn roman you are an off toic card (you need to be DEALT with) On Saturday 28 July 2001 19:56, Romanator wrote: On Saturday 28 July 2001 06:48 pm, Judith Miner wrote: Sridhar wrote: snip in 1985, which is probably about when you started, were a lot different than they are today, and so are operating systems. Sridhar, Is it true that you weren't allowed to use pointy objects like scissors? And, since then, fate had decided you enter the world of software rather than hardware? Ouch! Roman ---
Re: [newbie] Sound card drivers
Relax, it ain't that hard. I have this card on two different linux boxes and it works great--Clapton's spinning as I write. First, according to my notes, you must be sure of which aureal card you have (there are three different versions--the 8810, the 8820 and the 8830. If you have a Montego II it uses the 8830. 1. PNP MUST be disabled in the bios 2. Create a directory (mine is /aureal), copy the tar to it and Unpack the distribution: tar xvzf au88xx-1.0.5.tar.gz 3. Change to the driver directory if you're not already there and become root if you're not already: cd /aureal su 4. Type the following install commands: If you have an 8830-based card make install If you have an 8810-based card make install10 If you have an 8820-based card make install20 You don't need to reboot. If you get unresolved symbol errors you need to rebuild your kernel with the sound support (soundcore) built in (not as a module) -- but I never have had that problem. And kudos to BOFH for developing this driver and this how-to, which I am passing on. eryl I finally got into the floppy and unzipped the tar file. When I typed in the 'make' command, I was told it wasn't found. So I did a search with MC and it didn't find it either. So I guess now I'll have to install it from the CD. How do I do that? Please be very explicit,as I truly am a complete newbie. Thanks. Guy GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] Sound card drivers
were you root when you tried make? On Saturday 28 July 2001 22:41, Guy R Gauthier wrote: Relax, it ain't that hard. I have this card on two different linux boxes and it works great--Clapton's spinning as I write. First, according to my notes, you must be sure of which aureal card you have (there are three different versions--the 8810, the 8820 and the 8830. If you have a Montego II it uses the 8830. 1. PNP MUST be disabled in the bios 2. Create a directory (mine is /aureal), copy the tar to it and Unpack the distribution: tar xvzf au88xx-1.0.5.tar.gz 3. Change to the driver directory if you're not already there and become root if you're not already: cd /aureal su 4. Type the following install commands: If you have an 8830-based card make install If you have an 8810-based card make install10 If you have an 8820-based card make install20 You don't need to reboot. If you get unresolved symbol errors you need to rebuild your kernel with the sound support (soundcore) built in (not as a module) -- but I never have had that problem. And kudos to BOFH for developing this driver and this how-to, which I am passing on. eryl I finally got into the floppy and unzipped the tar file. When I typed in the 'make' command, I was told it wasn't found. So I did a search with MC and it didn't find it either. So I guess now I'll have to install it from the CD. How do I do that? Please be very explicit,as I truly am a complete newbie. Thanks. Guy GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] write permissions in gui.
my reading of this would mean that to be truly intuitive something would then be also instinctive. by your reasoning nothing involving either a keyboard or a mice could be considered intuitive. in fact about the only thing i can think of that would fit your definition would be the intuitive way a person strives to keep their head above water when drowning. not quite the same as instinctive way one breathes. I wonder if you considered that your post was kinda windows pro for a linux list, do you think? I believe in this use he was referring to the way someone never sitting before a computer will pick up and learn the methods and terminology for the OS. I personally find the command line of linux so intuitive that is scares me. ever tried to record (rec), config sound (sndconfig) now letsee to install a sound driver in winders... damn if it can be found where to open a text consol...that (to ME) is counter intuitive. On Saturday 28 July 2001 18:48, Judith Miner wrote: Sridhar wrote: You mean it isn't intuitive for a Windos user? Then you are correct. For people who have been using *nix for a while this can be very intuitive. Whoa! Intuitive has nothing to do with what OS someone knows how to use. Intuitive means known or perceived through intuition. Intuition is the act or faculty of knowing or sensing without the use of rational processes. Intuitive does not mean easy, once you learn how. Command lines can never be intuitive because you have to *learn* the commands first. Dragging a file onto a printer icon in order to print is intuitive. You don't have to read anything to figure out that dragging a file onto a picture of a printer will probably result in its being printed. Writing copy /b thisfile.doc lpt1 at a DOS prompt is not intuitive, though it is easy, once you know how. I don't have a clue what you'd write at a Unix prompt because, gee, it isn't intuitive.g First time computer users can generally learn an OS like GNU/Linux much faster than a Windos user, since they don't expect everything to be like Windos. Do you have evidence to support this, other than wishful thinking and some anecdotes? Evidence would require gathering large, diverse groups of users, some of them new to computing, others experienced with Windows, giving them tasks to do in GNU/Linux, and observing what they go through and how long it takes for them to complete the tasks. You would also gather their impressions of how hard or easy it was to accomplish the tasks. I taught myself MS-DOS when I was three years old. Since I had no previous conceptions on what an OS should be like, I learned rather easily. Surely you must realize that you were a very unusual three-year-old. For one thing, you must have known how to read and spell, as well as how to use a keyboard. Most three-year-olds can't read and spell at all, or if at all, not well enough to use a text-based operating system like MS-DOS. And then, once you start it, what do you do with it? Most three-year-olds aren't interested in playing with commands at a command prompt.g They want to run Jumpstart Preschool or Reader Rabbit or Sesame Street. They want to do it the way my granddaughter does: start the computer; after Windows starts, put the CD into the CD-ROM drive; the program autostarts; click your way through it; click on whatever ends it when you're done--the voices tell you what to do. Want to run something else? Put that CD into the drive and repeat the above. Computers in 1985, which is probably about when you started, were a lot different than they are today, and so are operating systems. When I tried MacOS, a very user-friendly OS, I couldn't understand it, simply because it wasn't anything like what I had tried before. And how about after you had used Mac OS for an hour? It goes beyond first impressions to how long it takes a person to become a competent user. I kept an open mind, and now I find that I can't understand the logic (if there is any) in Windos, my previous OS of choice. Doesn't sound like the mind is too open with regard to Windows.g Did you ever feel you understood how Windows works? If so, what happened to change that? This seems contradictory to the advice to take each system as it stands, without making invidious comparisons to what you already know. When it comes to troubleshooting problems, often you will _have_ to use the command line. In Linux. Now. Hopefully not forever. Hopefully not in two years. Better yet, not in one year. In Windos, if something goes wrong, the user has no way of finding out what it is. This is because things are 100% graphical. I disagree. I think there are many ways of finding out what's wrong. You just have to learn how to do it--just like Linux! As a result, often the solution is to reinstall, and even this can't fix everything. A reinstall is seldom needed. The reason people use it so often is that
[newbie] Samba on Start-up
How can I make it automatically mount a Samba Filesystem on Boot-up? Is the like an automount type program that will configure when the client computer is turned on? ~Lance
[newbie] Network help needed!
Anyone able to help a dizzy (gone round in circles so often!) PC user set up a small home network with 'net connection? Any help appreciated Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Debugging print jobs
Still nothing. The xpp window just goes away after the 'print' button is pressed. My test PostScript file (non-pcal) printed just fine with xpp. I took a look at /var/log/syslog and there's nothing at all there that suggests anything If printing is correctly configured for everything else, try running xpp filename.ps. On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 01:01, Mark Shaw wrote: I downloaded and installed a pretty cool calendar application (pcal, to be exact) that produces PostScript calendars in various formats. I have verified that 1) The output of pcal prints just fine under Solaris 2.7 2) My Mandrake 7.2 box is able to print PostScript produced by other applications However, PostScript produced by pcal apparently just goes to the bit bucket on the Mandrake box. No stuck print job; the printer (Epson Stylus Color) doesn't move; nothing. Where should I begin debugging this? Thanks -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] lm_sensors
Could someone refresh my memory as to the directory and command to start setting up lm_sensors (gkrellm)? I've done it a half dozen times, but I can't remember to save my life this time. (installed new hdd - so starting over). -s
Re: [newbie] XFree86 4.1.0 from Cooker
Run this command: $ rpm -qa |grep XFree Make sure that all the packages that are listed are of version 4.1.0. If not, post the results to the list, and we'll take it from there. On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 05:10, Siro Belza wrote: Hi, I have installed XFree86 4.1.0 on my system. Everything works fine, but when I type X -version it says XFree86 4.0.3. However I have installed all the packages of XFree86 4.1.0. Does someone know the reason of this? Is Xfree86 4.1.0 really working? Sirocco -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] login problem
have you ever tried to compile a kernel? on this machine? did you have this problem before that? On Saturday 28 July 2001 09:36, root wrote: On Friday 27 July 2001 08:47, etharp wrote: well, we can look at the logs, if you want, or we could create a new user from the text prompt, and see how it logs in. per this suggestion, I pulled /var/log/syslog and compared a failed login to a good one, and see one difference. Below are the last few lines from a failed login. I have more if we need them: Jul 28 06:55:34 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4 Jul 28 06:55:38 localhost last message repeated 35 times Jul 28 06:55:38 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-180 Jul 28 06:55:40 localhost last message repeated 24 times Jul 28 06:56:47 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 28 06:57:03 localhost last message repeated 3 times On a successful login, localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- is repeated only two times, then I get the same messge for a collection of sound-* modules. The can't find char-major-* message repeat the same number of times regardless of whether the login works or doesn't. Meanwhile, I am successful in logging in via console mode if I do a 'restart in console mode'. Incidentally, the failed login has gone from the previous exception to the rule, to where I have to make multiple attempts, including powering down, to get signed in. I did reinstall my printer last night, and fixed my halt problem per someone else's documentation here. I assume the now it is safe to turn off your computer is a windoze specific message, since I never see that. I get to a message saying that the system is stopped after what seem to be all the shutdown messages complete ok. On Friday 27 July 2001 09:05, root wrote: On Friday 27 July 2001 04:43, etharp wrote: is this while you wait to login? have you installed mandrake security and what level? (paranoid?) or a firewall? what reaction are you expecting? i was expecting no reaction, since I had never heard of that method of logging on before. I hit alt-f4 at the point where otherwise I would enter root and my password and hit go. The original problem when attempting to login via the normal login panel, I sometimes was bounced back to the login panel without getting logged in, and when that happened had to reboot before being successful at logging in. When installing, I took the defaults for security and the firewall. Before altering those, I'll want an explanation of why the bounce occurs only some of the time instead of every time. It seems to me if it was a security or firewall problem, the bounce would be consistent instead of sporadic. On Friday 27 July 2001 00:48, root wrote: On Thursday 26 July 2001 16:34, etharp wrote: what happens if you hit ctrl+alt+f4 (or any other f-key up to f6) and log in? nothing. no reaction at all -- Gentlemen, it's in beta. That means it's like Windows. They're letting you test it while they continue to screw it up until it's totally useless. (Bigg Fredd in RCC talking about Google's temporary interface to the deja archives)
Re: [newbie] login problem
On Saturday 28 July 2001 08:40, etharp wrote: have you ever tried to compile a kernel? on this machine? did you have this problem before that? nope. I reformatted my linux partititions and installed 8.0 clean, avoiding expert mode because I'm not an expert. -- Gentlemen, it's in beta. That means it's like Windows. They're letting you test it while they continue to screw it up until it's totally useless. (Bigg Fredd in RCC talking about Google's temporary interface to the deja archives)
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RPMs with source
I would say you'd be much better off if you found the 2.1 SRPMS and did a rpm --rebuild, then installed the resulting rpms. I would not suggest compiling from source unless there is a way to point it to /usr/local (such that it wouldn't overwrite any existing information you have). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 12:27 AM 07/29/2001 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If, for instance, I have the KDE 2.0 packages (RPM, of course) installed...and I download the KDE 2.1 source code (instead of the RPMs), what should I do? Should I uninstall (rpm -e) the KDE 2.0 packages *before* compiling installing the 2.1 source code (but then wouldn't any new app's RPMs designed for *only* KDE 2.1 and above, refuse to install because KDE 2.1 doesn't look like it's been installed, to the RPM program?)? Or can I just compile install the 2.1 source over the RPMs (but wouldn't RPM get confused or annoyed?)?. I am asking these questions because some of my recent upgrades (including X 4.0.3, xmms, KDE 2.2, sawfish etc.) have been exhibiting unusual behaviour, to say the least. These were installed by just overwriting the current installation and not telling RPM. Thanks, George
Re: [newbie] Strange Disk Access Messages
I don't think so
On Saturday 28 July 2001 11:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello!
I was accessing (find command) my E: a while ago (hdb6), and I got this:
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=42366,
sector=407538
What is this? Is my disk stuffed?
I saw something in the kernel (2.4.4) compile options thing (make xconfig)
that said it would fix something similar to this:
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE:
If you get this error, try to say Y here:
hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: set_multmode: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
If in doubt, say N.
Should I turn this on and compile? I'm currently using Mandrake 7.2's
2.2.17
kernel.
Thanks,
George
Re: [newbie] Ping
Sounds like a firewall issue. Do you have something like Norton's Internet Security running? It will not all echo requests so you won't get a response from the host whe pinging that machine. Try to telnet to the Linux box. If you can get through, then it's most likely an issue like that. Allow that sort of protocol, or lower the level of security. Your choice there. But if you can ping the Linux box from the Windows machine, then they can talk, just the ICMP echo request is denied. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 5:38pm up 8 days, 18:06, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 | a couple of possibilities, might be you got ping no running?? might be a | firewall issue? and hey, what are you doing wrong anyway/ | | On Saturday 28 July 2001 10:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | OK, I got my netwqork set up all good, and when I ping the Linux server | from the windows box it wont go, but I can ping the windows box from the | Linux server. Its like a one way conversation between the computers, what | am I doingwrong | | ~Lance | --
[newbie] gnome
Hi! I've switch from kde to gnome and I don't know howto setup icons. I would like to create a icon for internet connection. I would also like to setup an icon for gimp. Any help would be appreciated. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
