Re: [newbie] M 8.x configuring lilo & aurora, Xconfig
Michal, The default installation would have installed the "Control Center" for both KDE and Gnome, and put an icon on your desktop for it. Use that to change from Auorora to text and vice versa. Ditto with LILO and Grub. And if you installed X, you should already have Xconfigurator installed. If you've tried unsuccessfully to run it, it may be because you weren't root. Miark - Original Message - From: "Michal Hrtko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:31 PM Subject: [newbie] M 8.x configuring lilo & aurora, Xconfig > Hi, > > I have there two similar questions: > 1; in default installation M8 is configuring tool for booting to aurora > (or old style), and switching to Grub or Lilo etc. > Which .rpm contains this tool (I can't remember the name) , or how > should I change it manually? > 2; dtto, where is Xconfigurator, or how to change the resolution > manually? > > Thanks all, > Michal. > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] M 8.x configuring lilo & aurora, Xconfig
Hi, I have there two similar questions: 1; in default installation M8 is configuring tool for booting to aurora (or old style), and switching to Grub or Lilo etc. Which .rpm contains this tool (I can't remember the name) , or how should I change it manually? 2; dtto, where is Xconfigurator, or how to change the resolution manually? Thanks all, Michal. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Control Center firewall
In reply to Dylan's words, written Sun, 23 Sep 2001 13:42:14 -0700 >When I try this, I get the following error: > >Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC > >How do I resolve this? > >TIA At www.bastille.org (or something like that) you can find this one, and also another you need (both in RPM). Paul -- ERROR: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Samba- I want to shared my windows folders with linux
hi ppl! I had successfully managed to share my linux folders with other win98 machines usinf Samba. Now I would lik eto share my already shared Win 98 folders with a Linux Mandarke 7.1 machine. thanks in advanced regards Roderick Scotto _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] no mas email
Carlos, Yo hablo un poco Espanol. (But not very well.) Por favor, lee http://www.twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Test/UnsubscribingFromMailingLists, especialmente the section "En Espanol". Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Por favor no enviarmarme mas email > > Gracias > > alquien que les diga a esta compañia que no envien mas email a > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gracias, > > Carlos A Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] no mas email
Por favor no enviarmarme mas email Gracias alquien que les diga a esta compañia que no envien mas email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gracias, Carlos A
[newbie] Unstoppable progress
Nothing can stand in Linux's way! We'll emulate 'em if we have to! Another brick in the road to World Domination: "The SirCam virus runs properly under WINE, with a few omissions. It does not properly create registry entries to make itself launch at boot. Also, it did not e-mail itself out to others, but that is partly due to not having Outlook installed under WINE at the time of testing. Thus I am not sure if this part of the program works correctly or not. What does work correctly is extracting the embedded document into your temporary folder." http://appdb.codeweavers.com/appview.php?appId=277 /// Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot get into Linux
Dear Tim, I have tried your suggestions and I just get invalid commands and that there are no kde or enlightement files anywhere. I used the rm command exactly as you wrote and I just got an invalid command. Is there anything else that can be done? Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Marcia - Original Message - From: Tim Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Marcia L Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Cannot get into Linux > What was the command typed then? If the command was typed out > correctly, it woul have worked just fine. > > rm -Rf ~/.kde > > This wil remove the directory that keeps all the PERSONAL kde configs on > your machine. If you get rid of that, you should be able to basically > start all over with out them, and they will be made as you start to > login. > > You said you can't load any other windows managers either. How did you > go about loading them? If you're in level 3, you'll have to edit the > ~/.xinitrc to load the right windows manager. > > Try editing your ~/.xinitrc to load another windows manager. Try these > commands. > > [timh@r2d2 timh]$ which enlightenment > /usr/X11R6/bin/enlightenment > [timh@r2d2 timh]$ echo "exec enlightenment" > ~/.xinitrc > [timh@r2d2 timh]$ chmod +x ~/.xinitrc > > After you've done that, run xinit or startx. You should then load > Enlightenment. Just click the middle mouse button and then select "Log > Out" to get out of Enlightenment. That will prove that X is running > fine, and it's KDE that's the problem. But I do believe if you run the > correct command, (rm -Rf ~/.kde) your problem will be fixed. > tdh > > -- > T. Holmes > - > UNIXTECHS.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > "Real Men Use Vi!" > > Uptime: > > 4:18pm up 1 day, 20:01, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 > > | Dear All, Thank you so much for the wonderful suggestions. Civilme, I tried > | your solution below, however I just got an erro message that it was an > | incorrect command. I was able to get to a console though through F3 I > | believe and found my files in text mode. It seemed that I was able to move > | around there without a problem but I cannot get KDE up or any other window > | manager. Since I can get into my filesystem through the console what can I > | do about repairing my X, window managers or whatever is truly wrong here. > | Thanks for your help. > | > | Sincerely, > | > | Marcia > | > | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > -- > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Control Center firewall
On Sunday 23 September 2001 16:42, you wrote: > When I try this, I get the following error: > > Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC > > How do I resolve this? > > TIA > > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Control Center firewall > > On Saturday 22 September 2001 19:35, you wrote: > > I have setup my firewall (iptables) with the control center in > > mandrake > > > 8. It works great untill I reboot and I see that all are set back to > > allow all. What is up with that? How do I get the rules to stick? > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Description: > > I don't know the answer to your problem, but I might suggest that you go > > to su console and then cd to /sbin and type in "InteractiveBastille" go > through the setup with that select no for file limits question, and the > settings should stick. It is fairly descriptive as it asks you what you > > want to do to set the firewall up. HTH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: OK, you are probably running the bastille program that was on the CDs, and this is a release candidate. It works fine, but if you want the final version go to the bastille web site and down load it from there. Paying attention to the instructions. So back to your problem.. it looks like you do not have the Bastille-Tk * files. These do not appear to autmatically load on install. So go into the mandrake software manager and do a search for Bastille-Tk* and load that file. then try the InteractiveBastille again. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Checking on port 80 scans?
On Sunday 23 September 2001 18:51, you wrote: > At 12:26 PM Sunday, 9/23/2001, you wrote -=> > > > > portsentry.*: UDP scan > > > >OK.. I've tried adding all the entries you've given me, but the log files > > are all coming the same way as before. > > hm I think I put a ":" where there should be a "." > > Try "portsentry.*. UDP scan" > > without the quotes of course > > >I am editing the /etc/logcheck/ignore file which I've checked the path in > >logcheck.sh to make sure it's pointing there.. which it is. > > I have all the logcheck files in the same dir. Check the docs as to the > exact files that you should be seeing H no such luck unfortunately :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Checking on port 80 scans?
At 12:26 PM Sunday, 9/23/2001, you wrote -=> > > portsentry.*: UDP scan > >OK.. I've tried adding all the entries you've given me, but the log files are >all coming the same way as before. hm I think I put a ":" where there should be a "." Try "portsentry.*. UDP scan" without the quotes of course >I am editing the /etc/logcheck/ignore file which I've checked the path in >logcheck.sh to make sure it's pointing there.. which it is. I have all the logcheck files in the same dir. Check the docs as to the exact files that you should be seeing Ed ~~ Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. -Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot Errors
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 21:59:54 -0400, Barry Premeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad > > > > superblock on none, or too many mounted file > > > > systems" > > > > > > Do you know what partition this applies to? > > > > > > > > > > > Don't delete these. They are essential for normal system operation. > > > > > > > > > > > Your attached /etc/fstab looks mostly fine to me (BTW, please quote inline > and > > > _do not_ send attachments to the list). You should probably add ",notail" > > > immediately after the word "defaults" for the ReiserFS mounts. This will > provide > > > extra data security and speed. Default ReiserFS mounts are not recommended. > Are > > > you sure that the mount points are correct? > > > > > > I apologize for the attachment. The mount > > points are correct. > > > > /dev/hda5 / > > /dev/hda7 /home > > /dev/hda6 /var > > > > During boot up, the error message flashes up > > twice. First after "Checking Filesystems" > > and again after the "Random Number Generator > > Started" and "Mounting other filesystems". > > In the Syslog, the message shows up only > > once: > > > > "21:27:50 localhost kernel Floppy > > drive(s): fd) is 1.44M" > > "21:27:50 localhost kernel FDC 0 is a > > post-1991 82077" > > "21:27:50 localhost mount mount: wrong fs > > type, bad option, bad superblock on none," > > "21:27:50 localhost mount or too many > > mounted file systems" > > > > If I am interpreting this correctly, it seems > > to be trying to mount one of the "none" lines > > following /mnt/floppy. I don't know which > > one though: > > > > "none /proc proc defaults 0 0" > > Definitely not this one. I have an identical line on my system. > > > or the next line > > > > "none/dev/shm tmpfs > > defaults0 0" > > I've never seen this one before, but it looks important. Try commenting-out the > line by placing a # in front of it. > > > With regards to ",notail", should that read: > > > > "/dev/hda5 / reiserfs defaults,notail 1 1" > > Yes. Add the "notail" option to all your ReiserFS mount settings. > > > Thank you for the help. > > > > Barry > > -- > Sridhar Dhanapalan. > "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: > LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." > -- Jeremy S. Anderson > > - > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Commenting out the second "none" cleared the mount errors during boot. Added the ",notail" while I was at it. Thanks again for the help. I did find an empty directory called "/dev/shm" and a 0 byte file called "shmiq" under "/dev". I guess I'll have to wait and see what may be broke with that line commented out. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake Control Center firewall
When I try this, I get the following error: Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC How do I resolve this? TIA -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake Control Center firewall On Saturday 22 September 2001 19:35, you wrote: > I have setup my firewall (iptables) with the control center in mandrake > 8. It works great untill I reboot and I see that all are set back to > allow all. What is up with that? How do I get the rules to stick? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: I don't know the answer to your problem, but I might suggest that you go to su console and then cd to /sbin and type in "InteractiveBastille" go through the setup with that select no for file limits question, and the settings should stick. It is fairly descriptive as it asks you what you want to do to set the firewall up. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot get into Linux
What was the command typed then? If the command was typed out correctly, it woul have worked just fine. rm -Rf ~/.kde This wil remove the directory that keeps all the PERSONAL kde configs on your machine. If you get rid of that, you should be able to basically start all over with out them, and they will be made as you start to login. You said you can't load any other windows managers either. How did you go about loading them? If you're in level 3, you'll have to edit the ~/.xinitrc to load the right windows manager. Try editing your ~/.xinitrc to load another windows manager. Try these commands. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ which enlightenment /usr/X11R6/bin/enlightenment [timh@r2d2 timh]$ echo "exec enlightenment" > ~/.xinitrc [timh@r2d2 timh]$ chmod +x ~/.xinitrc After you've done that, run xinit or startx. You should then load Enlightenment. Just click the middle mouse button and then select "Log Out" to get out of Enlightenment. That will prove that X is running fine, and it's KDE that's the problem. But I do believe if you run the correct command, (rm -Rf ~/.kde) your problem will be fixed. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Real Men Use Vi!" Uptime: 4:18pm up 1 day, 20:01, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 | Dear All, Thank you so much for the wonderful suggestions. Civilme, I tried | your solution below, however I just got an erro message that it was an | incorrect command. I was able to get to a console though through F3 I | believe and found my files in text mode. It seemed that I was able to move | around there without a problem but I cannot get KDE up or any other window | manager. Since I can get into my filesystem through the console what can I | do about repairing my X, window managers or whatever is truly wrong here. | Thanks for your help. | | Sincerely, | | Marcia | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde locks up
On Sunday 23 September 2001 03:50 pm, civileme wrote: > On Sunday 23 September 2001 18:48, s wrote: > > Hi all, > > I installed 8.0 freq3 on my husband's amd k6-2 450 machine and it runs > > fine (if a little sluggish) when being used, but if it sets unattended - > > kde locks up so hard that I can't even ctrl+alt+backspace or alt+SysRq+b. > > Let's see, he's got: 192 mb ram & ~200 mb swap > > some kind of sis chip on unidentified mobo > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > > > TIA, > > -s > > SiS5598 on a PC100 Mobo? > > I would guess off-hand that the power supply voltages need to be checked. > 2.2 is right for K6 speed 450 or higher. Another gimmick is to > underclock--set the speed jumpers to 95 on the buss and from 450 to 400 for > the processor. That is a weak board with a marginal chipset, the last of > the really bad ones SiS built. If it is instead a 530 but still a PCChips > board, check power supply and check memory--they built a lot with too few > inductors on board. > > Civileme Yep I think 5598 it is. Ummm, if the voltages are off...? I will try the gimmick tomorrow (as he's off and glued to it today). When he bought the thing it was over clocked to 500mhz. It crashed all the time. We reinstalled windows two or three times before I figured this out and set it to 450. It was a little better until the fan started acting up. But it's so slow as it is, I just may have to pay a visit to my favorite on-line shops. Thanks alot, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot get into Linux
Dear All, Thank you so much for the wonderful suggestions. Civilme, I tried your solution below, however I just got an erro message that it was an incorrect command. I was able to get to a console though through F3 I believe and found my files in text mode. It seemed that I was able to move around there without a problem but I cannot get KDE up or any other window manager. Since I can get into my filesystem through the console what can I do about repairing my X, window managers or whatever is truly wrong here. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Marcia - Original Message - From: civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Marcia L Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Cannot get into Linux > On Sunday 23 September 2001 03:17, Marcia L Waller wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Last night I was using Netscape and minimized my window while I was > > working on something else. I forgot that I had Netscape open and opened > > it again and got the usual warning message that someone else is using it. > > I realized then I was already on and shut that message down. I tried to > > find my other open one at the bottom bar but it was gone it seemed. I > > thought that I would just shut down and things should be OK. I did then > > opened Netscape and it thought I should sign up again and put my info > > into preferences as if I was never on it before. I canceled that and > > decided to shut down again. When I turned it on that time I went through > > the start up fine got to the login and after logging in it waited 20 > > minutes with the arrow on the blue screen before it finally gave me an > > error message which said: > > > > "There was some error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. > > The mesage returned by the wystem was: Could not read network connection > > list. /home/marcia.DCOPServer cdm-208-215-124-bntv-:0 > > Please check that the "dcop server" is running! > > > > It has been the same story since. Does anyone have ideas how I can fix > > this without losing everything and installing again? I have had Linux > > Mandrake 8 for awhile and had just about everything fine tuned and > > working well plus some great new programs that I did not get to back up > > yet. It took my a month to get cups printing to work right with my Epson > > Stylus Color. I definitely do not want to reinstall. Any suggestion will > > be great suggested. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Marcia > > > Marcia > > Just hit escape when you see the lilo boot screen and type > > linux 3 > > When the system comes up, then login in _Console_ mode and > type this > > rm -r ~/.kde -f > > startx > > You will have to restore a few personal settings but otherwise should be OK. > > Civileme > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Rom not working with KDE CD Player
On Sunday 23 September 2001 15:23, you wrote: > Greetings all. I'm running LM8. I have recently installed a CD-RW, which > is the master drive, and my pre-existing CD Rom is slave. So, the CD-RW > is hdc and the CD Rom is hdd. My problem is that I can't play CDs with > KDE's CD Player. It works with hdc, but not with hdd. Is this because > this is not the master drive? (I have changed the configuration in CD > Player to read dev/hdd). Any help appreciated. > Stan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: did you change the jumpers on the back of the CDplayer to "slave"? If so and if you are using KDE try creating a new icon on the desk top pointed to your CDROM. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Rom not working with KDE CD Player
On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:23:33 -0400 Stan Lockaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings all. I'm running LM8. I have recently installed a CD-RW, which is > the master drive, and my pre-existing CD Rom is slave. So, the CD-RW is hdc > and the CD Rom is hdd. My problem is that I can't play CDs with KDE's CD > Player. It works with hdc, but not with hdd. Is this because this is not the > master drive? (I have changed the configuration in CD Player to read > dev/hdd). Any help appreciated. > Stan > > Unless your sndcard has more than 1 connection. sush as does the SBLive, and you have audio cables attached to both cdrom and your cd-rw then you will only be able to play cds from the one drive. Charles (-: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD Rom not working with KDE CD Player
Greetings all. I'm running LM8. I have recently installed a CD-RW, which is the master drive, and my pre-existing CD Rom is slave. So, the CD-RW is hdc and the CD Rom is hdd. My problem is that I can't play CDs with KDE's CD Player. It works with hdc, but not with hdd. Is this because this is not the master drive? (I have changed the configuration in CD Player to read dev/hdd). Any help appreciated. Stan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kde locks up
Hi all, I installed 8.0 freq3 on my husband's amd k6-2 450 machine and it runs fine (if a little sluggish) when being used, but if it sets unattended - kde locks up so hard that I can't even ctrl+alt+backspace or alt+SysRq+b. I turned off trying to use screensaver (which didn't work), and moved the sliders to disable in the power saving, but didn't help. Time isn't consistant, for example: sometimes it takes 3 hours, sometimes 20 minutes. (I didn't install any other window managers due to space constraints, so can't see if it would do it gnome.) Let's see, he's got: 192 mb ram & ~200 mb swap some kind of sis chip on unidentified mobo pci Voodoo2 3000 on-board C-media? sound (I didn't build this thing) isa creative modemblaster pci linksys fast ethernet? (uses tulip) maxtor as hda with /boot, / and /home seagate as hdb with /usr and /var, all reiserfs Umm, he was having an overheating problem, but with new fans and leaving the sides off, it runs consistantly at 52 degrees Celcius now. Windows doesn't lock up, so I don't think it's the processor, but wanted to include this anyway for consideration. Anyone have any suggestions? TIA, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need to verify numeric value in bash script
I'm writing a bash script to process a CSV file of billing records. I need to check the last field of each record to make sure it is a numeric value, not a alpha character. I can do all kinds of things to work with the specific field; I can even output the field to a seperate file. I just can't figure out how to test for a numeric value. I tried expr, but could not get that to work; it showed an error fo all of my tests. And awk just passed over the error I planted in the test. According to the book I'm using as a guide, expr should do it. Maybe I've got the syntax wrong. I've tried: expr $Value + 1 It always gets a syntax error. It is supposed to get an error like "expr: non-numeric argument" when $Value is non-numeric, but instead it always gets the error even if it is numeric. Any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] open ports: explanation requested
you should forget most of what a localhost scan reveals. if you have a firewall, get that running, and then from another computer on the net, scan your computer over the internt. then if you have ports open that you don't want, configure your firewall to block them. (and open a console and run ntsysv to see what you have running, and uncheck anything you don't want running... and if you are not sure what something does, highlight it in ntsysv and press F1, which will popup an explanation box for you. many parts of a linux system communicate via ports... and if you closed them to localhost, then you would find a good many of them stop working, (like X11). It doesn't matter if the ports are visable to localhost, the only danger is if they are visable to the internet (and possibly to your lan if you have one and don't trust your users.) a well configured firewall would stop both cases. Also, even if you do close all the stuff you don't use, you should still have a firewall, as sometimes running mandrake update will update a server app, and set it to start on boot again,, so you never know when you will want your firewall... no computer should be on the net without one. (particularly if the words Microsoft appear anywhere in the bootup screens.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of WCBaker Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 12:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] open ports: explanation requested Hi! I have some open ports, as indicated by an nmap localhost scan. 2 main questions: a) Is there a console or terminal command that lets me shut a port down? and another command to reinstate the port ? b) Can anyone take a moment to explain whether these are necessary: port 111 sunrpc (what is sunrpc?) 617 & port 631 Unknown(likely these are eth0 and lo, my ethernet and cable connections??) 1024 kdm (is this kde's connection? can I make this stealth instead of an open port??) 1026 nterm (can I make this stealth?) 6000 X11 (can I make this stealth?) Thanks for your time! Cheers! -warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] does anyone want this??
DShield.org asked for the logs pertaining to the CodeRed and CodeRed II attacks. I'm not sure if they're asking for things having to do with Nimda. Check their webpage, they may way those as well. My cable provider shutdown port 80 and port 443 after the fiasco from CodeRed, so I don't have anything in my log coming through port 80. Also check incidents.org, they may want the logs as well. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Real Men Use Vi!" Uptime: 12:55pm up 1 day, 16:38, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.03, 0.01 | Hi all, | | Is there anyone or company that would want a list of over 3500 unique IP | address's of servers infected with code red, code red II or other variants | or Nimda??? | | Someone who is not a hacker??? | | Is there a place where you can submit this things that will try to inform | the company in question??? | | just thought they may be of some use to a security company... | | rgds | | Frank | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] open ports: explanation requested
Hi! I have some open ports, as indicated by an nmap localhost scan. 2 main questions: a) Is there a console or terminal command that lets me shut a port down? and another command to reinstate the port ? b) Can anyone take a moment to explain whether these are necessary: port 111 sunrpc (what is sunrpc?) 617 & port 631 Unknown(likely these are eth0 and lo, my ethernet and cable connections??) 1024 kdm (is this kde's connection? can I make this stealth instead of an open port??) 1026 nterm (can I make this stealth?) 6000 X11 (can I make this stealth?) Thanks for your time! Cheers! -warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Checking on port 80 scans?
On Sunday 23 September 2001 12:26, you wrote: > On Sunday 23 September 2001 09:59, you wrote: > > At 01:15 AM Sunday, 9/23/2001, you wrote -=> > > > > >Sep 23 00:47:12 home portsentry[1073]: attackalert: UDP scan from host: > > >dhcp1.cgocable.net/24.xxx.x.xx to UDP port: 68 > > > > Try adding the following to ../logcheck.ignore > > > > portsentry.*: UDP scan > > OK.. I've tried adding all the entries you've given me, but the log files > are all coming the same way as before. > > I am editing the /etc/logcheck/ignore file which I've checked the path in > logcheck.sh to make sure it's pointing there.. which it is. Oh yah.. well.. all the UDP and Host scans are still coming up (anything that is an "attackalert", but the mail has been filtered out. So I'm editing the right file, but it's not allowing me to filter out the UDP scans...? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] how do I set lilo.conf for 3 cdroms,USB burner?
in my box, I have hda as winders and /home (8 gig hd), hdb is a dvd-dcrom, hdc is my (winders d: (data)and LM /) second hard drive, hdd is a plain ide cdrom, and my USB cdwriter shows up as scd0. I would like to edit my lilo and what ever else to be able to emulate scsi on the other cdroms, so as to be able to see (and read) them as a scsi device. could anyone correct my "append" statement in lilo so I do not get an error message about the line when I run lilo as an executable to update? It sees the usb writer just fine as both scsi 0,0,0, and as /mnt/cdrom3, and reads fine from /mnt/cdrom3. The current line reads; image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hdc5 append=scd0=ide-scsi "quiet" "hdb=ide-scsi" "hdd=ide-scsi" vga=788 read-only the error I get after running lilo (as root) is; " Syntax error near line 15 in file /etc/lilo.conf" line fifteen is the append statement. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Burning of ISOs
On Saturday 22 September 2001 13:55, you wrote: > Es Saturday 22 September 2001 16:15, Dennis Myers va escriure: > > Can someone explain what to do with gtoaster to burn a usable image > > from an ISO. (If I'm saying that right) or put another way, I want to > > burn the 8.1rc1 ISOs to a bootable CD to install on a spare HD. Is > > there a special tag that you click in gtoaster or Gcombust to do > > this. I know you make a selection to do it in windows on Adaptec CD > > creator, but don't know how to handle it in gtoaster. Thanks for any > > help. > > I use gcombust. No special instructions for it, just select iso file > and burn it! ;) Joan, I tried gcombust but still just made a copy of the iso. There must be a toggle or something to make a regular CD. Anyone have an Idea. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Checking on port 80 scans?
On Sunday 23 September 2001 09:59, you wrote: > At 01:15 AM Sunday, 9/23/2001, you wrote -=> > > >Sep 23 00:47:12 home portsentry[1073]: attackalert: UDP scan from host: > >dhcp1.cgocable.net/24.xxx.x.xx to UDP port: 68 > > Try adding the following to ../logcheck.ignore > > portsentry.*: UDP scan OK.. I've tried adding all the entries you've given me, but the log files are all coming the same way as before. I am editing the /etc/logcheck/ignore file which I've checked the path in logcheck.sh to make sure it's pointing there.. which it is. Idea's? Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound blaster live
s wrote: > > On Saturday 22 September 2001 12:08 am, Paul Rodríguez wrote: > > I believe the Sound Blaster Live! card is supposed to work out of the > > box in Mandrake 8.0, is this right? What I mean by this is installing a > > new system with Mandrake 8, it would auto detect my SB Live! (i think). > > If this is the case what do I do to get mandrake to recognize the card > > *after* I have already installed the os? > > > > -Paul Rodríguez > > Just make sure kudzu or hardware detection is turned on in services before > you shut down to install. As an alternative, you might try sndconfig after > booting. > -s Hi Paul. Hi s. ;-) Here, under my setup, when using the graphical logon, I had to drop to a shell, and run "kudzu" as root to detect new hardware. Now, since I don't do a graphical logon (I've got a Nvidia Geforce, and kdm kills 3D accel.), kudzu kicks in automagically. Just a thought... PS Do run sndconfig, it should set u right up. -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What program for news ??
Joan Tur wrote: > > What program do you use to read and write from the news lists? I'm thinking > on reading messages from Fido again... ;) > > Thanks! > -- > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 > Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org > Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Pan has a good reputation! ;-) -- /\ Dark> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Checking on port 80 scans?
On Sunday 23 September 2001 09:59, you wrote: > At 01:15 AM Sunday, 9/23/2001, you wrote -=> > > >Sep 23 00:47:12 home portsentry[1073]: attackalert: UDP scan from host: > >dhcp1.cgocable.net/24.xxx.x.xx to UDP port: 68 > > Try adding the following to ../logcheck.ignore > > portsentry.*: UDP scan OK added.. we'll see if it works in 5 minutes :) > >Sep 23 00:47:12 home portsentry[1073]: attackalert: Host: > >dhcp1.cgocable.net/24.xxx.x.xx is already blocked Ignoring > > You may want to find out why this host is doing what it is doing. Have you > done an nslookup on the ip and contacted the owner? My belief is that it's my cable internet provider pinging me. cgocable.com is Cogeco cable (who I have internet through) and am setup for dhcp from them (dynamic IP's) > >Sep 23 00:45:00 home postfix/pickup[3669]: 887BF2BADC: uid=0 from= > >Sep 23 00:45:00 home postfix/cleanup[4791]: 887BF2BADC: > >message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sep 23 00:45:00 home postfix/qmgr[1605]: 887BF2BADC: > >from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=20502, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > >Sep 23 00:45:01 home postfix/smtp[4793]: 887BF2BADC: > >to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >relay=mail.plannettechnologies.com[216.36.196.159], delay=1, status=sent > > (250 XAA02069 Message accepted for delivery) > > Try these and see what happens. I am not familiar with postfix. I use > sendmail > > postfix/pickup.*uid > postfix/cleanup.*message-id > postfix/qmgr.*from > post/smtp.*to Yah, I think this is just logcheck.sh actually being run and sending me email > Hope this helps. It does.. thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.5...?
That would be correct. The odd numbers are development kernels, and the even numbers are release kernels. So 2.5.x ; 2.7.x ; 2.9.x are development, 2.6.x ; 2.8.x wold be release. On Sunday 23 September 2001 08:22, you wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 01:13:15 -0300 > "Nicolás Gómez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: > If I'm not mistaken, Nicolas, the 2.5.x series will be development > kernels, not genuine "release" kernels. IOW, it will be for developers > and kernel hackers, the way the 2.3 series had been. Most likely the next > release kernel will be 2.6.0 and I have no idea when that might happen. > Heck, I'm still using 2.2.19 on most of my boxes (I have one old laptop > still using 2.2.5 ;-) ). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards - Radeon
my bet is that until you read about PCTel opening up the source, and that won't happen until after M$ opens their source for the windows9x kernel. (read: NEvEr). I believe it has MUCH less to do with linux and it's development that it does with the DCMA and US law. (we in America are out to make friends and influence people to be our friends, as long as you don't talk about how sloppy our methods of encryption are or try to "steal" our corporate secrets. heck maybe we could solve the terrorist problem by checking Bin Ladens licenses for M$ products?) On Sunday 23 September 2001 06:43, you wrote: > I run the Radeon 64Mb DDR card under Linux-Mandrake 7.2 without incident. > > Is there any change with "winmodem" in either 8.0 or 8.1? > > I would like to just plug and play with my winmodem without having to get a > new real modem. you might be pleased with the improvments in getting winmodems to work (but really is not plug and pray), but you might also like the way M$winders runs after you get rid of the PCTel modem and the software that goes with it (not just the driver, but other PCTel stuff loaded at the same time as the driver). Just my experiance. I am sure PCTel MUST have gotten better since I dealt with them, since I have not bought another PCTel or HSP modem in about 4 years, and still have 2 hanging around the house, not in any box, but my personal feelings are that I would NOT give one of these away to an enemy, much less sell it to someone I don't even know on e-bay. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work...
No that won't make it run 12 times an hour. That will make it run 12 minutes after each hour. One way I have seen it done is with */12 or you can use the brute force method and list a comma delimited set of minutes per hour in which to run the job. Keith Lynn Systems Administrator School of Computer and Information Sciences University of South Alabama Mobile, AL 36608 Phone: (334) 460-6390 Fax: (334) 460-7274 Alternative E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.cis.usouthal.edu/~lynn/ On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Franki wrote: > cool,, mcedit makes much more sense to me then vi (though I should probably > learn to use it at some stage.. at present I use mcedit or pico for > everything..) > > anyway, if I want to run it every five minutes... is this the right format? > > 12 * * * * /sbin/nimda > > ie run it 12 times an hour?? is that right? or does that run it 12 times a > minute?? > > rgds > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Lynn > Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2001 9:59 PM > To: Franki > Cc: NEWBIE Mandrake List > Subject: Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work... > > > The way I do it is to export the editor that I use as the default editor, > export EDITOR=pico, and then do crontab -e. > > Keith Lynn > Systems Administrator > School of Computer and Information Sciences > University of South Alabama > Mobile, AL 36608 > Phone: (334) 460-6390 > Fax: (334) 460-7274 > Alternative E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > URL: http://www.cis.usouthal.edu/~lynn/ > > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Franki wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I have been trying to add an entry to contab for root on my mdk 7.2 > system.. > > > > when I type crontab -e it brings up a screen with an entry at the top and > > one at the bottom and a funny ~ char at the start of all the lines in > > between. > > > > like so: > > > > > > 0 * * * * /etc/iscan/prescan.cgi >/dev/null 2>&1 > > ~ > > ~ > > > > I cut out a heap of these characters, but you get the point. > > ~ > > ~ > > ~ > > ~ > > ~ > > ~ > > "/tmp/crontab.16832" 1L, 49C > > > > I can't seem to add one and I really need to. > > > > I want to add something like: > > > > 05 * * * * /sbin/nimda >/dev/null 2>&1 > > > > so that it runs my scan that adds nimda and code red clients to my > ipchains > > rules to block them... > > > > it needs to run alot so I figure that every five minutes would be good. > > (have I done that right?) > > > > can anyone tell me why I can't enter anything? and can't I just edit a > file > > with mcedit? > > > > I can move the cursur to the start and end of the top line, but nowhere > > else, and I can't get a newline (also, I am trying to do this via ssh as > > root.) > > > > > > any suggestions would be much appreciated. > > > > > > regards > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Console Tool to replace rpmdrake
rpm or urpmi - Original Message - From: "Patrick Meisel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: [newbie] Console Tool to replace rpmdrake > Hi, > is there a tool like rpmdrake which does not need X? > > Patrick > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Console Tool to replace rpmdrake
It's 'urpmi' Just type 'man urpmi', and read the help ... -Original Message- From: Patrick Meisel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Console Tool to replace rpmdrake Hi, is there a tool like rpmdrake which does not need X? Patrick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work...
Thanks guys, I got that added, export works fine... just gotta get the format right so it runs every 5 minutes. also, if for some reason it hasn't finished running from the previous time, is there a way to stop it running again? I don't want to crash my system by having 200 copies running by tomorrow morning... (actually, at every 5 minutes, it would no doubt happen much sooner then tomorrow morning..) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Kasky Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2001 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] crontab -e doesn't work... Crontab is working - what you are seeing is the vi editor Not my favorite editor in the world that's for sure. ;-) In order to be able to edit the file, press the insert key - you will see --INSERT-- at the bottom of the screen. (F1 brings up the help screen.) once you are done editing, press "esc" then ":" the "wq" for write/quit. If you did the steps correctly you will see a message that indicates a new crontab has been installed... O'Reilly puts out a good pocket reference fo rthe vi editor. I think I picked one up for $5 US or so... Ed ~~ At 09:53 PM Sunday, 9/23/2001, you wrote -=> >Hi all, > >I have been trying to add an entry to contab for root on my mdk 7.2 system.. > >when I type crontab -e it brings up a screen with an entry at the top and >one at the bottom and a funny ~ char at the start of all the lines in >between. > >like so: > > >0 * * * * /etc/iscan/prescan.cgi >/dev/null 2>&1 >~ >~ > >I cut out a heap of these characters, but you get the point. >~ >~ >~ >~ >~ >~ >"/tmp/crontab.16832" 1L, 49C > >I can't seem to add one and I really need to. > >I want to add something like: > >05 * * * * /sbin/nimda >/dev/null 2>&1 > >so that it runs my scan that adds nimda and code red clients to my ipchains >rules to block them... > >it needs to run alot so I figure that every five minutes would be good. >(have I done that right?) > >can anyone tell me why I can't enter anything? and can't I just edit a file >with mcedit? > >I can move the cursur to the start and end of the top line, but nowhere >else, and I can't get a newline (also, I am trying to do this via ssh as >root.) > > >any suggestions would be much appreciated. > > >regards > >Frank > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . Don't worry about the horse being blind. Just load up the wagon. ~~ John Madden Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.5...?
On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 08:22:04 -0400, Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2001 01:13:15 -0300 > "Nicolás Gómez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: > > NG> Hi Folks! when is the date that the Kernel 2.5 is expected to be > NG> released?? > NG> I read that it will has the ALSA drivers on it is that true? > == > If I'm not mistaken, Nicolas, the 2.5.x series will be development > kernels, not genuine "release" kernels. IOW, it will be for developers > and kernel hackers, the way the 2.3 series had been. Most likely the next > release kernel will be 2.6.0 and I have no idea when that might happen. > Heck, I'm still using 2.2.19 on most of my boxes (I have one old laptop > still using 2.2.5 ;-) ). > Mike That's right. There are three parts to a Linux (i.e. the kernel) version number, which are separated by dots (the numbers are _not_ decimals!). Take a look at the latest Linux release, 2.4.9. A chance in the first part (which is currently 2) signifies a _major_ change. A change in the second part (currently 4) denotes a large, but not fundamental, change. A change in the third part (currently 10) shows a relatively minor change. Now, breaking down the second part even more, odd numbers signify "development" releases, and even numbers represent a "stable" release. The 2.3 series was developed to become 2.4. When the 2.5 tree is opened, it shall be developed into 2.6 (or possibly even 3.0). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone Running Mac Linux-Man?
--On 23/9/01 0:08 + hp wrote: > Anyone running Linux-Mandrake on a Mac? Thinking of installing on a > G3/266. I'm in the middle of trying to install on an iMac DV. It isn't easy... Unless you have quite a bit of Linux experience, I'd suggest waiting for 8.1 PPC, which will probably have a number of the bugs ironed out. (The contrast between installing LinuxPPC 2000 and LinuxPPC 2000 Q4 was amazing, for example.) If you do have Linux experience, I'd suggest installing right away, so that you can help me with the problems I'm having. :-) David Chart Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards - Radeon
I run the Radeon 64Mb DDR card under Linux-Mandrake 7.2 without incident. Is there any change with "winmodem" in either 8.0 or 8.1? I would like to just plug and play with my winmodem without having to get a new real modem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video cards - Radeon
ATI Radeon 32MB DDR is an excellent card but - beware LMD8.0 drivers will have major problems. Solutions have already been on this list but I'm waiting for 8.1 - next week (should work "out of the box") At 20:51 17/09/2001 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:07 PM > > To: Newbie Linux-Mandrake > > Subject: [newbie] Video cards > > > > > > So, with all the discussion about nVidia cards, what is a > > good card to > > run? I am going to upgrade cause my little 4mb ATI Rage > > doesn't even get > > tux down the hill. I want a midrange card in the $60 to $100 > > range. Is > > there any hope? TIA for any suggestions. > > -- > > >In that price range I would get the OEM version >of the ATI Radeon 32MB DDR. > >You can pick 1 up from www.newegg.com for $72+$8 S&H. >That is Cheap for that card. >The retail version runs $130+ and everywhere else even the OEM >is $100+. > >Do not be tempted by the Radeon VE it uses a different chip and is not >supported at all yet. >And the SDR is a lesser version of the DDR. > >As I said in 1 of my previous post the Radeon will not be >fully supported until 8.1 >It runs well on either 7.2 or 8.0 but it is great in 8.1 B3. > >Should you prefer a stop gap solution you can get an OEM ATI Expert 2000, >32MB Rage 128 chipset, from several vendors for between $30-$35. >I have this card in 2 systems and it performs very well. > >In case no one has noticed I have become an ATI fan, especially where >Linux is concerned. > > > >Charles (-: > >Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. >And for too many there are now no tomorrows. > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
If CMYK is the only (?) drawback to GIMP, How hard can it be to implement? E.g. if you have an RGB bitmap, how easily could it be transformed into a CMYK bitmap (or bitmaps for each of the colours)? (Is it true that there are some patent/rights tied up with CMYK and printing these?) Cheers, Rod. (Must be a dumb question or else it would already be implemented, right?) At 20:24 19/09/2001 -0500, Matt Greer wrote: >On Wednesday 19 September 2001 20:04, you wrote: > > Hi, > > > > For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying > > CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very > > limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the > > colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours > > supported by browsers. > > >That is incorrect. RGB supports more color than CMYK does, by a rather large >margin. CMYK is generally a poor, but required, color space. > >This page has a good breakdown of the two gamuts, and the differences between >additive and subtractive color. > >http://web.wi.mit.edu/graphics/pub/photoshop/colman.htm > >Matt > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
