Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread civileme

Femme wrote:

>I need a semi-decent one.  KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for 
>enlightenment.
>
>I hated GWC *or whatever its called*.  Any ideas? :)
>
>Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment.
>
>Thx
>Femme
>
>
>
>
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in 8.2 there is sfm on the install CDs--it is simple and fast..

The default one supplied with xfce also works in other environments and 
is again pretty fast.

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread James Thomas

Mine works fine, I did the same thing. I am writing this in fact using 
Konqueror for KDE 3.0. If you download all your RPMs to the same directory 
(and no other rpms are in there - not sure if that part matters but it's how 
I did it), then you can just do: urpmi ./* and it will ask for Disk 1 to 
install a few RPMs when it needs it (I don't remember the exact RPM names).

KDE3.0 is pretty neat, faster than 2.2 so I've switched from Gnome to it for 
now (gotta wait for Gnome 2.0 to see if it stays better).

James


>Has anyone installed KDE 3.0 on Mandrake 8.2 and gotten KDE 3 to work.
>If so what RPMs did you install? I installed all of the RPMs under the
>"RPM" dir of Mandrake on the KDE ftp site.
>
>Thanks
>Brian


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Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread Ralph Slooten

I use XWC , although it's seems to have stopped development, I still think 
it's great! It should be on cd 3 if I remember correctly.

Nautilus looks good, but if far to heavy in my opinion. That actually 
countsfor Gnome too. That's why I switched to Fluxbox. Actually, the whole 
fluxbox uses as much memory as just the panel in Gnome :-)

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, James Thomas wrote:

> Nautilus in Gnome isn't bad, it's just resource intensive and full of a lot 
> of fluff you don't need - just use the options to disable it and you'll find 
> it's not bad at all.
> 
> James
> 
> >I need a semi-decent one.  KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for
> >enlightenment.
> >
> >I hated GWC *or whatever its called*.  Any ideas? :)
> >
> >Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment.
> >
> >Thx
> >Femme
> >
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> 
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[newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Brian York

Has anyone installed KDE 3.0 on Mandrake 8.2 and gotten KDE 3 to work.
If so what RPMs did you install? I installed all of the RPMs under the
"RPM" dir of Mandrake on the KDE ftp site.

Thanks 
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Re: [newbie] subscribed milis

2002-04-08 Thread Dennis Myers

On Monday 08 April 2002 10:51 pm, you wrote:
> hello, i'm a new member
> please give me for acses milis
> thanks..
You can subscribe here if you have not already: 
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Re: [newbie] KDE3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Dennis Myers

On Sunday 07 April 2002 07:20 am, you wrote:
> On Sunday 07 April 2002 14:01, shane opened a general hailing frequency and
>
> transmitted to all open stations:
> > ok stupid question maybe, but having just done the above, how do i et
> > back to 2.2.2 if i want i only have one entry for kde when i log in and
> > it gives me 3.
>
> ok, having read my own question, i realized i didn't ask what i ment to.
> chalk it up to a bad day with a 3 year old...
>
> what i mean is, if i wanted to reinstall 2.2.2 or install 3 on another
> system in addition rather than bt upgrade, will the login manager have 2
> kde choices autoatically or do i need to do something special?

Shane, on another list I found that someone advised "comment out the
export PATH= BLAH BLAHfrom  /etc/profile.d/kde3.sh"  This stops the KDE3 
bin from being the default. "  That was a paraphrase sorta.  Anyway I 
commented the line as told and then rebooted and when lilo came up I hit the 
drop down for the list of WMs and sure enough there was KDE and KDE3.  Seems 
to have worked. Both KDEs are available. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Problems loading modules

2002-04-08 Thread Lisa Evans

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 14:18, civileme wrote:

> 8139too is compiled into the kernel as a module--you should not have 
> needed it at all...  

OK, Mandrake 8.2 does not recognise my NIC, which is a Surecom
EP-320X-R. It lists it as an unkown PCI device in the control centre. A
driver (fealnx.c) was included with it on a floppy, but it seems really
old and doesn't compile at all for me. I've read that this card doesn't
work particularly well with 8139too, so I would have preferred to be
able to use the rtl8139 driver because I've read that has better
results. I just have no idea how to do this, really, because I've been
using Linux since RedHat 5.2 but I've never tried networking with
another computer before, and being in Australia I have a dialup
connection, as most people here still do (stupid 3GB/month download
caps, etc. whine whine).

Any tips about setting this up?

> 
> I would say save your data and do a fresh install, then

Is this problem really likely to be from doing an upgrade? Most things
seem to be running fine, and I'm pretty much out of disk space on my
other partitions, and I don't have my cd burner working under linux
yet It's not impossible for me to back up my data but I'd rather not
have to if I can avoid it.

> 
> chkconfig --del alsa
> 
> and edit /etc/modules.conf
> 
> to plug in the OSS driver for your sound card.  (Look in 
> /lib/modules/(kernelnumber)/kernel/drivers/sound)  
> 
> and
> 
> alias sound (modulename without the .o)
> 

I wanted to replace the OSS driver with the ALSA driver, not the other
way around. I've done this before, and the ALSA howto is very nice... my
only problem is the unresolved symbols errors when I try to insmod the
driver module. Is there a simple way of fixing this?

Thanks for your help so far :)

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[newbie] Planning server build

2002-04-08 Thread Wally

Hi Folks.

Firstly, thanks to those who advised on using NetBEUI. I wasn't looking to
share the CM, just see the desktop's hard disk. Anyway, the goalposts have
shifted and my server build has commenced. I'm at the stage of putting the
hardware together and would appreciate comments on my game plan as it stands
thus far.

Partitions: The disk is 40gig and the motherboard can take 2gig of ram in
total (starting at 256meg). Is a partition split of 8/2/30
(system/swap/data) about right as a fairly future-proof proposition
(Mandrake 8.1)? Although my intention is still to work mostly at the command
line (and via webmin), this box will be fast enough to do gui and I'll
probably want to try the gui options at some point.

The main features of the eventual system are something like...

File server to windows and linux clients on LAN.
Internet gateway via cable modem.
Firewall.
Print server.
Web server.
Remote login and access to user data.

Some questions...

File service to Win clients by Samba, yes? How about to the laptop when it's
running linux? Do I mount a network drive or something?

The cable modem will be accommodated using a second LAN card in the server.
How do I get it to sort out an IP/lease with the CM company? Tell it to use
DHCP in the network/NIC setup in linuxconf? How do I set up the gateway for
the LAN? (Is it a config thing, or do I need to install a prog?)

Is there a built in firewall? If not, what's on the MD CDs that I should I
use? Can I install/config the firewall before moving the CM to the server?
Will the firewall prompt for approval when a Win prog wants to access the
net for the first time, or do I have to config each thing manually?

What's the scoop with setting up a print server? What do I have to install?

Web server is, I assume, Apache. Is the CGI back-endy stuff part of the
standard install? What do I need to be able to generate and send forms-based
email?

What ways are there to handle remote access? I'd like the data partition to
appear in Network Wossname in Windows Explorer - the more draggy-droppy, the
better. It has to be based on a user account on the server - I'm not into,
say, an FTP server that requires separate account setup. Will Samba do this
over the CM? How about doing this over a direct dial-up to my server, rather
than via the internet?

TIA!

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Re: [newbie] Memory test.

2002-04-08 Thread Carlos Arigós

El Lun 08 Abr 2002 20:03, escribió:
> Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >How do you run the memory test that comes with the CDs? Could not
> >install more than a minimal LM 8.2. No qui.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >Seedkum
> >
> >
> >
> Start with a formatted floppy and CD1 in their respective drives and a
> console su'ed to root.
>
>
> dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/memtest-x86.bin  of=/dev/fd0
>
> Remove the CD, leave in the floppy, and reboot
>
> Civileme

Hola, Civileme. Instead of memtest, I have installed memtest86, and (after a 
su>pass>lilo) it's addded to lilo's menu, and I don't need to bother with 
diskettes failures and all that stuff.

So, my question is: are memtest and memtest86 differents solutions to the 
same problem, or, give both the same results?

Gracias
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Re: [newbie] Kmail Question

2002-04-08 Thread shane

if i understand you, try right clicking on the adress you want.  has a few 
options.

also, i think you will find that when it doesn't work, is when the sender 
has a "reply to:" field filled in.

On Tuesday 09 April 2002 09:11, Femme opened a general hailing frequency and 
transmitted to all open stations:

> Is there a way to "reply-to" the person this question was sent to?  IE,
> in the "To:" field is the newbie list address, I want to reply to that
> address when I hit the "Reply:" Button in Kmail.
>
> I hope that makes sense.
>
> It seems not to work, where in Netscape mail it does?
>
> Thx
> Femme

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Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread Jose Mirles

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 21:09, James Thomas wrote:
> Nautilus in Gnome isn't bad, it's just resource intensive and full of a lot 
> of fluff you don't need - just use the options to disable it and you'll find 
> it's not bad at all.
> 
> James
> 
> >I need a semi-decent one.  KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for
> >enlightenment.
> >
> >I hated GWC *or whatever its called*.  Any ideas? :)
> >
> >Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment.
> >

KDE has Krusader which is a Norton Commander clone and for generic X
Windows, try XWC. It's a lot like windows explorer, but better.

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Re: [newbie] 8.2 Installer Keyboard Problems

2002-04-08 Thread Dan Lueders

actually yeah i think it is


> On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 09:31, SleepyFolkz wrote:
> > I was recently trying to install 8.2 on a friends computer.  She has a
> > half year old dell with a black keyboard.  The keyboard stops working as
> > soon as the Installer is Loaded.  Does anyone know why or how I can fix
> > this?
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
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> Is it one of those Internet keyboards?



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Re: [newbie] Kmail Question

2002-04-08 Thread Bill Davidson

If I understand your question, you want to reply to the list rather than 
just the person who sent the email. You can hit the 'Reply All' button. 
Although this replies to the list and the person. Don't know if you can 
just reply to just the list.

Bill

On Monday 08 April 2002 09:11 pm, Femme wrote:
> Is there a way to "reply-to" the person this question was sent to?  IE,
> in the "To:" field is the newbie list address, I want to reply to that
> address when I hit the "Reply:" Button in Kmail.
>
> I hope that makes sense.
>
> It seems not to work, where in Netscape mail it does?
>
> Thx
> Femme



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Re: [newbie] Kmail Question

2002-04-08 Thread Pascal Goguey

Hello!

On Monday 08 April 2002 16:11, you wrote:
> Is there a way to "reply-to" the person this question was sent to?

In the present case, the person the question was sent to is the list,
right? By default, kmail replies to the list when pressing the reply
button.

>IE, in the "To:" field is the newbie list address, I want to reply to
> that address

I don't get it. The reply button replies to the list, without changing
any setting.
By the way, with a single click on the address, you can get a mail
editor window set up to the address you want to write to. But the
subject is not set up and the body is empty

> when I hit the "Reply:" Button in Kmail.

> I hope that makes sense.
>
> It seems not to work, where in Netscape mail it does?
>
> Thx
> Femme

But there is something strange in the addresses display.
For instance, if somebody writes to me, in his message's
header, there is my address in the "To" field. But kmail
displays:

[Subject] (in large bold characters)
From: MyFriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This doesn't seem too logical.

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Re: [newbie] Organizer

2002-04-08 Thread Terry Smith

Evolution does it all for me. Ximian is pushing out v. 1.0.3 currently
(I'm not sure what v. 8.2 has). 

Terry Smith
Cape Cod USA

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 12:56, Gary Montalbine wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a simple organizer that has a date and "to do" 
> list and a telephone list. Korganizer does not have a telephone 
> capability that I can find.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread Jon Doe

how about filerunner?
Not sure if its on the mandrake CD's or not. I am using SuSE right now, just type fr 
in a console and you'll know if its in there!



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[newbie] Kmail Question

2002-04-08 Thread Femme

Is there a way to "reply-to" the person this question was sent to?  IE, in 
the "To:" field is the newbie list address, I want to reply to that address 
when I hit the "Reply:" Button in Kmail.

I hope that makes sense.

It seems not to work, where in Netscape mail it does?

Thx
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Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread James Thomas

Nautilus in Gnome isn't bad, it's just resource intensive and full of a lot 
of fluff you don't need - just use the options to disable it and you'll find 
it's not bad at all.

James

>I need a semi-decent one.  KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for
>enlightenment.
>
>I hated GWC *or whatever its called*.  Any ideas? :)
>
>Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment.
>
>Thx
>Femme
>
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Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread Femme

On Monday 08 April 2002 07:01 pm, you wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:51:31 -0600
>
> "Femme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively:
> >I need a semi-decent one.  KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for
> >enlightenment.
> >
> >I hated GWC *or whatever its called*.  Any ideas? :)
> >
> >Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment.
> >
> >Thx
> >Femme
>
> ==
> Have you tried Midnight Commander?  Vey similar to Norton commander in
> that other world.  Type "mc" in a terminal and take a look.
>
> Mike

Yes I have.  Nice but I wanted something for the GUI too when I'm trying to 
do a few things @ once & can't bother with a CLI.

Thx though ;)
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Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:51:31 -0600
"Femme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively:

>I need a semi-decent one.  KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for 
>enlightenment.
>
>I hated GWC *or whatever its called*.  Any ideas? :)
>
>Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment.
>
>Thx
>Femme
==
Have you tried Midnight Commander?  Vey similar to Norton commander in
that other world.  Type "mc" in a terminal and take a look.

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread shane

On Monday 08 April 2002 05:40, Brian York opened a general hailing frequency 
and transmitted to all open stations:

> I have Mandrake 8.2 and when i installed the RPMs to upgrade KDE they
> screwed up KDE it was 3.0 but nothing worked. I lost most of the menus
> (k button and right click menu links were dead) and no telling what i
> didn't know. Can anyone help me?

try the texstar rpms from pclinuxonline.com.  they worked great for me, but 
you will still need the koffice rpm from mandrake.

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[newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?

2002-04-08 Thread Femme

I need a semi-decent one.  KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for 
enlightenment.

I hated GWC *or whatever its called*.  Any ideas? :)

Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment.

Thx
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Re: [newbie] Bug fix release.

2002-04-08 Thread Femme

On Monday 08 April 2002 01:41 pm, you wrote:
> Femme wrote:
> > Well that program I mention does generate them for a CDRom ISO,
> > image/whatever you need it for.
> >
> > Thats why I use it.  I don't do alot of MD5Sum stuff in linux yet.
> >
> > So I searched that out.
> >
> > ;p
> >
> > Icq me if you wish to get the little program and don't want to search. 
> > Email me for my #.
>
> Thanks again!  I downloaded the program -- interesting.  With only a
> quick glance, it appears it can calculate the md5sum for multiple
> files/directories (and maybe even make a master sum by adding them
> together or something?), but I don't quickly see a way to do an md5sum
> of an entire burnt Cdrom.  Have you tried that?
>
> regards,
> Randy Kramer

Yes I have tried that Randy.  Just do a "select all", after you've pointed it 
to the CDRom itself.  The files show up individually on the left.  Once 
you've hit select all, then just hit the button to verify or create the sums.

Yes it does a whole bunch in a dir at once, stick the single md5sum as one 
file & then will check it if you tell it to do so.

:)  I love it.

Perfectly newbie-stupid stuff some of us need ;p

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Re: [newbie] Memory test.

2002-04-08 Thread civileme

Seedkum Aladeem wrote:

>Hi,
>
>How do you run the memory test that comes with the CDs? Could not
>install more than a minimal LM 8.2. No qui. 
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Seedkum
>
>
>
>
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Start with a formatted floppy and CD1 in their respective drives and a 
console su'ed to root.

>
dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/memtest-x86.bin  of=/dev/fd0

Remove the CD, leave in the floppy, and reboot

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Re: [newbie] wavelan is not up

2002-04-08 Thread Derek Jennings

On Monday 08 April 2002 11:45 pm, Li Tan wrote:
> Hi, thanks for your reply, however I cannot figure out what the problem is.
> I have another eepro100 network in the computer. I can setup wqvelan in
> control center, also I followed your instruction to modify wireless.opts,
> but the problem is still there. Any idea?
>
> Thanks
>
> Li

Try configuring the interface by hand using iwconfig in a root terminal. Use 
man iwconfig to find the parameters. As a minimum you should need to set the 
wireless mode, and the encryption key. You will know if it works when you 
will see signal strength displayed by iwconfig. You can then put that command 
at the end of your /etc/rc.local file to be executed on boot.

So for example my wireless card is configured by the command

iwconfig eth0  essid any  mode Managed  key s:my_key

Naturally the parameters you choose (especially the encryption key) need to 
be compatible with the rest of your wireless network.

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Re: [newbie] Erasing URLs in Konquerer

2002-04-08 Thread K Montgomery

If you mean the URLs in the location drop-down, I right-clicked on the
location bar, and then clicked "Empty Contents" and they were all wiped
out.

- Kathy

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 17:57, Michael T. Richards wrote:
> What is the easiest way to erase remembered URLs in Konquerer?  I am
> probably missing something VERY basic here...
> 
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Re: [newbie] pan trouble

2002-04-08 Thread Paul Rodríguez

Bingo!  You win the prize.  Upgrading to the latest version works fine. 
Thanks!

- paul 

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 17:17, Jon Doe wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 15:26:46 -0400
> "Jose M. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Well it's neither a problem with 8.2 or PAN.
> > 
> 
> There is a new encoding scheme that is getting pretty hot and well used on usenet 
>called yenc.
> Older versions of pan arnt' able to decode this method, one of the pan versions had 
>some problems decoding it also.
> I beleive the newest version is doing ok with yenc now.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] 8.2 Installer Keyboard Problems

2002-04-08 Thread Jose Mirles

On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 09:31, SleepyFolkz wrote:
> I was recently trying to install 8.2 on a friends computer.  She has a half 
> year old dell with a black keyboard.  The keyboard stops working as soon as 
> the Installer is Loaded.  Does anyone know why or how I can fix this?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[newbie] Erasing URLs in Konquerer

2002-04-08 Thread Michael T. Richards

What is the easiest way to erase remembered URLs in Konquerer?  I am
probably missing something VERY basic here...

Michael Richards
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Re: [newbie] Where Can I find cdrtools packages v1.11a19 or newer

2002-04-08 Thread Damian

El lun, 08-04-2002 a las 07:55, John Richard Smith escribió:
> Can anyone help me.
> I seem to need to find a package called cdrtools that ought to be higher than 
> v 1.11a19, and be suitable for mandrake install.
> 
> All I can find are two packages:-
> 
> cdrtools-1.11a20-1.src.rpm
> cdrtools-1.11a19-1.src.rpm
> 
> which I find do not install.I guess the src appendage means something
> that  is compatible with mandrake.
> 
> I guess I need something with mdk in the file name , and is at least
> designated as being in the cooker, but I cannot find one.Obviously I
> am looking in the wrong place. The URL address would be helpfull.
> 
> 
> John

" src " means it's not compiled. it's the source. if you install
a src RPM, then you have to cd into it's directory and compile it.
anyway, if this is the case, i suggest downloading a tar.gz for source.
i think it's less confising that way.

i remember compiling cdrtools a while ago.. you probably won't find any
problems.

HTH

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[newbie] framebuffer

2002-04-08 Thread Damian



hi list

i'm feeling pretty curious about framebuffer recently, and since i
think my card supports it ( the kernel messages when i boot the
installation cd are not in text-mode ) i started trying stuff
to enable it, but, i'm rather clueless here...

i've tried messing with the resolutions and X configuration, 
but found nothing.. am i missing something or is this setting
enabled only by manually editing "the X files"? 


thanks

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Re: [newbie] very scary stuff: 2. Where your mail is going

2002-04-08 Thread civileme

john rigby wrote:

>I think I will go away.
>(sigh)
>"You may create the greatest library in the world, but if the ignorant
>are both vain and ignorant, it will mean nothing even after their freedom
>bleeds away. That is the fundamental problem of all social advancement "
> Book 1: Ku a'la  4,880 years
>ago.. nothing changes much.
>
>For the odd few who care about more than just grabbing freebies.  It
>is VERY worth while to go read this:
>
> http://www.talkbiz.com/assassin.html
>
>It DOES explain where a lot of your mail has gone!
>
>Cheers,
>
>John
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [newbie] very scary stuff. Your rights ARE vanishing - being
>assasinated...
>
>
>On Friday 05 April 2002 03:22 pm, john rigby wrote:
>
>>Hello folks,
>>
>
>   howdy partner
>
>>This is not off-topic! This is a probable reason that we are all
>>having more and more email problems.
>>
>
> >   mostly your posts, but i'll bite
>
>Nope, I've got a large d/l goin (kde3 updates) can't spare the
>bandwidth, 'sides it's more fun to reply in ignorance
>
>
>
>---
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>Ask here for full info - *and* get it free. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>Version: 6.0.344 / Virus Database: 191 - Release Date: 2/04/02
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Actually, the site has a valid point.  Dial-Up Lists or DULs are used by 
a lot of servers to _reject_ email.  This means that if you are on a 
dial-up or more improtantly, your IP is on their record as belonging to 
a dial-up block, your mail is kicked and neither received nor relayed. 
 DUL as the acronym is also a good description of the mentality to think 
of such an action.  Most spammers are rapacious businessmen, or con men 
or attorneys (don't forget attorneys _invented_ spam), and they are 
unlikely to set up a dial-up with postfix running so they can transmit 
spam traceably from their own computers...  Instead they will use AOL 
free trial hours or freemail services.  So the DUL is a blot on email 
and little more, value as anti-spam is infinitesimal.

And in the same was that anti-virus people hype their products to sell 
to gullible users of linux as well as windows, anti-spam people hype 
second-rate products that work more like a blackboard eraser, nuking 
your email rather than surgically striking at it.

And it is on-topic for this and every other mailing list.  Most 
anti-spam is trash.

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[newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Brian York

I have Mandrake 8.2 and when i installed the RPMs to upgrade KDE they
screwed up KDE it was 3.0 but nothing worked. I lost most of the menus
(k button and right click menu links were dead) and no telling what i
didn't know. Can anyone help me?

Thanks 
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Re: [newbie] pan trouble

2002-04-08 Thread Jon Doe

On Mon, 08 Apr 2002 15:26:46 -0400
"Jose M. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Well it's neither a problem with 8.2 or PAN.
> 

There is a new encoding scheme that is getting pretty hot and well used on usenet 
called yenc.
Older versions of pan arnt' able to decode this method, one of the pan versions had 
some problems decoding it also.
I beleive the newest version is doing ok with yenc now.



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Re: [newbie] wavelan is not up

2002-04-08 Thread Li Tan

Hi, thanks for your reply, however I cannot figure out what the problem is.
I have another eepro100 network in the computer. I can setup wqvelan in
control center, also I followed your instruction to modify wireless.opts,
but the problem is still ther. Any idea?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Bug fix release.

2002-04-08 Thread Randy Kramer

Femme wrote:
> Well that program I mention does generate them for a CDRom ISO,
> image/whatever you need it for.
> 
> Thats why I use it.  I don't do alot of MD5Sum stuff in linux yet.
> 
> So I searched that out.
> 
> ;p
> 
> Icq me if you wish to get the little program and don't want to search.  Email
> me for my #.

Thanks again!  I downloaded the program -- interesting.  With only a
quick glance, it appears it can calculate the md5sum for multiple
files/directories (and maybe even make a master sum by adding them
together or something?), but I don't quickly see a way to do an md5sum
of an entire burnt Cdrom.  Have you tried that?

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[newbie] Memory test.

2002-04-08 Thread Seedkum Aladeem

Hi,

How do you run the memory test that comes with the CDs? Could not
install more than a minimal LM 8.2. No qui. 

Thanks,


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[newbie] PCI-SCSI (dtc) Card for scanner install.

2002-04-08 Thread Malcolm Candlish

Sirs,

After an otherwise successful installation of Mandrake 8.2, on a Cerleron 500 
with 96 meg RAM, I tried to install my (DTC) Domex Technology Corporation 
scsi card to drive my Trust Connect 19200 scanner. The initial installation 
failed with the following message:-

PCI: device 134a 0001 is "DTC Technology Corp. | Domex536" (dtc)
have to insmod dtc
needs dtc
init_module: dtc: No such device
failed
Warning, insmod failed (dtc(nul)) (1)
unsetting automatic 

I have tryed under Hard Drake to install without success. When I try xsane  I 
get the message :-

No devices available.

Previously I have used this scanner plus scsi card with Red Hat 7.1 
implimenting insmod with a driver dmx3191d.o and it worked well.

Do I insmod  dmx3191d.o in Mandrake 8.2 or will this mess up the operating 
system. Alternatively, are there other ways of getting it to work.

Thank you for reading.
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RE: [newbie] pan trouble

2002-04-08 Thread Jose M. Sanchez


Well it's neither a problem with 8.2 or PAN.

I've upgraded one box and did a clean install on another and both work
fine.

You might want to try removing the respective PAN configuration files
from the .gnome directory and then set things up again.

Also try deleting the contents of the PAN data directories where it
saves the indexes and downloaded headers.

I assume you are downloading Binaries with "complete" icons right? 

-JMS

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Rodríguez
|Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:01 PM
|To: newbie
|Subject: RE: [newbie] pan trouble
|
|
|I did.  I can save pictures fine, but no other type of file.  
|It happens on two different boxes.  It seems to download them 
|fine, but not decode them.
|
|- Paul
|




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RE: [newbie] pan trouble

2002-04-08 Thread Paul Rodríguez

I did.  I can save pictures fine, but no other type of file.  It happens
on two different boxes.  It seems to download them fine, but not decode
them.

- Paul

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 14:12, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
> Works just great for me.
> 
> Did you remember to re-configure the save paths?
> 
> -JMS
> 
> |-Original Message-
> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Rodríguez
> |Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:43 PM
> |To: newbie
> |Subject: [newbie] pan trouble
> |
> |
> |Anybody try downloading a binary with Pan in 8.2?  Does it 
> |work for you even if the binary is not a picture?  
> |
> |
> |- Paul R
> |
> |
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] graphical boot up under 8.2

2002-04-08 Thread Ralph Slooten

Hehe, that's funny, I was just about to post the exact same question! :-)

Thanks, works like a charm. I actually don't understand why Mandrake be 
default chooses to hide all these details. And it's ugly I find. The lilo 
bootup screen does look nice though, just not the graphical bootup. I 
always disabled it though the Mandrake control center if I remember 
correctly, but since this option isn't there anymore, I had no idea :-)

Greetings
Ralph

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, ai4a wrote:
> If you are using lilo as a boot manager remove the 'quiet' keyword from
> the append line in /etc/lilo.conf. Also, I changed the 'vga=xxx' to
> 'vga=791'. This puts the screen in 1024x768 mode. Make sure you have a
> backup way to load linux so you can chage it back if necessary.  By the
> way, the 'vga=791 also put my virtual consoles into 1024x768 mode. Makes
> it very nice. Now the vc screen is easy to read and there are lots more
> lines per screen. Do not forget to execute lilo after the above changes. 
> HTH
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[newbie] gvim/vimx misbehaving (set guifont)

2002-04-08 Thread Stewart Allen

I've just upgraded from RH 7.2 to Mandrake 8.2 and gvim/vimx is now 
ignoring the "set guifont" directive in my .vimrc file. What's extremely 
odd about this is that after vim is launched, I can manually issue the 
command and it sets the font appropriately (yes, I've tried many many 
different fonts). Something else seems to be taking precedent, but I 
don't know where.

thanks,

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RE: [newbie] pan trouble

2002-04-08 Thread Jose M. Sanchez

Works just great for me.

Did you remember to re-configure the save paths?

-JMS

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Rodríguez
|Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:43 PM
|To: newbie
|Subject: [newbie] pan trouble
|
|
|Anybody try downloading a binary with Pan in 8.2?  Does it 
|work for you even if the binary is not a picture?  
|
|
|- Paul R
|
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[newbie] pan trouble

2002-04-08 Thread Paul Rodríguez

Anybody try downloading a binary with Pan in 8.2?  Does it work for you
even if the binary is not a picture?  


- Paul R


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Re: [newbie] master browser

2002-04-08 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Mon, 08 Apr 2002, Bill Winegarden wrote:
> >%_Hi,
> My local sysadmin (linux hater) says that my LM8.2 installation is giving 'many' 
>error messages on the NT intranet. He says that my linux laptop is configured as a 
>master browser. What do I have to do to restore peace?
> 

configure in /etc/smb.conf

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[newbie] master browser

2002-04-08 Thread Bill Winegarden



Hi,
    My local sysadmin (linux hater) 
says that my LM8.2 installation is giving 'many' error messages on the NT 
intranet. He says that my linux laptop is configured as a master browser. What 
do I have to do to restore peace?
 
Thanks and regards,
Bill W.
 


Re: [newbie] abiword not in 8.2?

2002-04-08 Thread Paul Rodríguez

I wasn't whining.  ;)  But I did want to know what the rationale was. 
My dad uses Abi for all of his office work (lots of Spanish and
English), and wanted to know if there was something wrong with it.

If it was causing problems with fonts, that answers my question.  

- Paul R

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 04:34, civileme wrote:
> shane wrote:
> 
> >On Sunday 07 April 2002 12:05 am, Randy Kramer opened a hailing frequency 
> >and transmitted:
> >
> >>shane wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Saturday 06 April 2002 11:06 pm, Paul Rodríguez opened a hailing
> >>>
> >>>frequency and transmitted:
> >>>
> Why was Abiword not included as part of 8.2?
> 
> >>>if i remember correctly this was asked, and the general feel seemed to
> >>>be "cause they haven't changed the package in so long it is damn near
> >>>useless now"
> >>>
> >>It's too bad people perceive it that way.  AbiWord seems to be a fairly
> >>active development project especially considering the small number of
> >>developers and time available for each.   They are currently
> >>concentrating on several "bugfix" releases prior to releasing 1.0, which
> >>will *not* have tables and some other features people desire.
> >>
> >
> >i agree, and if nothing else it provides one more office app choice.  more 
> >choice is always good.  i am only pointing out what i recall a few posters 
> >saying.  it may have even been another list.
> >
> >if only kword and staroffice could better open some of my older files, as 
> >well as share files better.
> >
> Why was/was not package xxx included in 8.2?
> 
> Look at the CDs!  650, 649, and 648 Mb--MAXed
> 
> Some choices had to be made and Abiword has a track record of 
> interfering with other programs by way of its fonts.  We did not want 
> another 8.0 case on our hands
> 
> Gee, Pike, a wonderfully comfortable scripting language isn't there 
> either and SmallEiffel bit the dust, and no one thought to include the 
> famous old web browser Grail, and
> 
> Sheesh, go to a Mandrake mirror and look in the /contribs directory.  We 
> rarely throw anything away.  You will find SIAG Office there, too.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Organizer

2002-04-08 Thread Rich

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 12:56, Gary Montalbine wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a simple organizer that has a date and "to do" 
> list and a telephone list. Korganizer does not have a telephone 
> capability that I can find.

I'm using Evolution (Ximian) 1.0.2.  It's an organizer, address book and
mail client.  Works well for me.

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[newbie] Cd Tower with Apache

2002-04-08 Thread John Bodden



Hello all,
 
I just bought a SCSI CD tower to use with my 
intranet. I mounted one of the drives to the /var/www/html/cdrom directory 
(/var/www/html is the document root) I am getting a permissions error message 
when I try to access the drive. I made the Apache group the owner and group of 
the CD directory and they both have read access to the directory. 
 
Any ideas?
 
John


[newbie] Organizer

2002-04-08 Thread Gary Montalbine

Can anyone recommend a simple organizer that has a date and "to do" 
list and a telephone list. Korganizer does not have a telephone 
capability that I can find.

Thanks,

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RE: [newbie] KDE3.0 - For Tester

2002-04-08 Thread Burrows, Scott

Civ,

Will that LN you created below dissappear if you reboot?
Should it also be written in a .conf file somewhere?

Scott



-Original Message-
From: tester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3.0


On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 13:07, FemmeFatale wrote:
> Damian wrote:
> 
> > 
> > actually there is a better way.
> > 
> > last night i installed KDE 3.0 by getting all RPMS, opening a terminal
> > and doing a " urpmi ./+ "
> > 
> > it asked me for the three MDK cd's and got a lot of packages to solve
> > dependencies... it worked fine, tho kde 3  has bugs.. :o(
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> 
> what does opening a term & typing "urpmi ./+" do then exactly?  So you
> still have to d/l all the RPM's of KDE3 yourself & urpmi just takes care
> of the deps?  And if so will it still install KDE3 beside your existing
> KDE2.x?
> 
> :)  Tough questions I know, but I'm sure you'll pull through this crisis
> for me Damian ;p
> 
> I have confidence in your non-Fudding abilities
> 
> Femme
> 
It installs and runs separately.  It is KDE3 on the kdm selection and 

11 KDE

on Xtart from console.

You need about 90 Mb space in / or /opt and if you do not have a
separate /opt and / doesn't have that much room, then do this:

1. Open a terminal
2. su to root
3.

mkdir -p /usr/opt
ln -s /usr/opt /opt
exit

before you install.

It seems to run well as security level 2 and to have problems at 3 or
higher.  Some of the new open sockets do not appear to get the right
permissions for intewrprocess communications at higher security levels.

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Re: [newbie] abiword not in 8.2?

2002-04-08 Thread civileme

shane wrote:

>On Sunday 07 April 2002 12:05 am, Randy Kramer opened a hailing frequency 
>and transmitted:
>
>>shane wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday 06 April 2002 11:06 pm, Paul Rodríguez opened a hailing
>>>
>>>frequency and transmitted:
>>>
Why was Abiword not included as part of 8.2?

>>>if i remember correctly this was asked, and the general feel seemed to
>>>be "cause they haven't changed the package in so long it is damn near
>>>useless now"
>>>
>>It's too bad people perceive it that way.  AbiWord seems to be a fairly
>>active development project especially considering the small number of
>>developers and time available for each.   They are currently
>>concentrating on several "bugfix" releases prior to releasing 1.0, which
>>will *not* have tables and some other features people desire.
>>
>
>i agree, and if nothing else it provides one more office app choice.  more 
>choice is always good.  i am only pointing out what i recall a few posters 
>saying.  it may have even been another list.
>
>if only kword and staroffice could better open some of my older files, as 
>well as share files better.
>
Why was/was not package xxx included in 8.2?

Look at the CDs!  650, 649, and 648 Mb--MAXed

Some choices had to be made and Abiword has a track record of 
interfering with other programs by way of its fonts.  We did not want 
another 8.0 case on our hands

Gee, Pike, a wonderfully comfortable scripting language isn't there 
either and SmallEiffel bit the dust, and no one thought to include the 
famous old web browser Grail, and

Sheesh, go to a Mandrake mirror and look in the /contribs directory.  We 
rarely throw anything away.  You will find SIAG Office there, too.

Civileme

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[newbie] NEW Nvidia RPM's Released for LM82

2002-04-08 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

Newbie listers...get your new NVIDIA RPM's here! Version 2880 for LM82 --

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux

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RE: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment.

2002-04-08 Thread Peter Nunn

Thanks guys,

I got the fix's from the Texstar site and am now a happy little vegemite.

Now,

assuming it runs OK for a while and I'm game (or silly), given that I don't
have much disk space, how do I get rid of KDE 2 (or is this not a good idea
yet)?

The only problem I had was that I couldn't install the KDevelop rpm because
of a conflict with /opt/kde3/bin/extractrc conflicting with a file from
kdesdk3-3.0-1mdk?

Any ideas on this one.

If I can fix this, and get the laptop to suspend properly every time I close
the lid (instead of every second time) I'd be wrapped.

Thanks again.

Peter.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SpeedMan
> Sent: Sunday, 7 April 2002 11:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3.0 a BIG disappointment.
>
>
> On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 05:45, Peter Nunn wrote:
>
> > KDE 3.0 is simply not ready yet...
> >
> > I spent 24 hours downloading it (yes, I'm on a dialup),
> installed it with
> > the instructions given here (and it worked fine).
> >
> > However,
> >
> > every time I log in it takes me through the stupid setup screen. Its now
> > lost my panel for some reason (and I can't get it back), and I
> can't get the
> > sound working at all (all of which are fine under 2.2).
> >
> > This is a real bummer because it looks so much better.
> >
> > Has anyone heard of a workaround for this mess yet?  I've
> searched, but not
> > turned up anything.
>
> Texstar has some good info on these issues on his site:
>
> http://pclinuxonline.com
>
> WRT the KWizard launching on each login - from this page:
>
> http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17
97&mode=&order=0&thold=0

=

Here is a quick fix to stop kwizard/kpersonalizer from running each time
you start kde3.

Option #1: (Worked for me) Open up with a text editor
/opt/kde3/bin/startkde

Comment out lines :117 -131.

Option #2: Open up with a text editor the kpersonalizerrc file in your
home .kde3 or .kde /share/config directory and put the following two
lines in:

[General]
FirstLogin=false

On my system Option #1 worked best. It seems each time I would log out
with option #2, the information gets removed.

=

Alternately, you can go to this page where Tex has detailed the fixes he
applied to several KDE packages that he recompiled and has made
available:

http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1801&mode=&o
rder=0&thold=0

He has packages here that fix both the KWizard and Arts sound issues.

Also, anytime you lose your panel in KDE you can just right click on the
desktop select "Run Command" and type in kicker to spawn a new taskbar.

HTH


Regards,

SpeedMan






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Re: [newbie] ATI Radeon, XFree 4.2 and Mandrake 8.2: Are theygetting along?

2002-04-08 Thread Serge

On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 20:51, Charles A Edwards wrote:

> 
>  
> Your XF86Config-4 looks OK.
> You could change the "AGPMode" to "4"
> 
> I keep feeling that your problem has to be with Mesa.
> Do rpm -q Mesa.
> You should have Mesa-4.0.1-4mdk.
> 
> Su to root and launch glxgears from a terminal.
> You should see the line "Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2" 
> 
> Let gears run for 15-20 sec.
> What is your average FBS?
> Depending upon your WM you should be able to get around 1200-1500 FBS.
> 
> 
> Charles
 
Hi Charles.

Thank you for your answer.

I have Mesa, and Mesa-libs too.
I run glxgears and it runs very slow... Hardly i can see the wheels
turning! I got after 30 seconds:
"3903 frames in 5 seconds = 780.600 FPS".

Serge





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