Re: [newbie-it] Masterizzazione fantasma

2002-06-15 Thread jv

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Alle 15:59, sabato 15 giugno 2002, in merito a [newbie-it] Masterizzazione 
fantasma, Patti Santo ha scritto:

 Tutto bene, CD Roast riconosce entrambi i dispositivi.
 
Hai lo stesso problema anche con altri programmi di burning tipo G-Combust?

Fai una prova e dimmi!

Bye



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[newbie] Cannot mount file system messages.

2002-06-15 Thread Seedkum Aladeem

Hi,

When I boot LM8.2 from hard disk I get the message that the local file system 
mounting has failed.  Later, before the boot up is completed, I get a message 
that amother file system mounting has failed. 

However the boot up goes to completion. I am able to login and seemingly the 
system is functioning without any problem. I tried to use fsck on the hard 
disks but it would not work on disks that are mounted. Can someone help me 
figure out why those messages are appearing?

Thanx,

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Re: [newbie] OT - World Cup broadcasts

2002-06-15 Thread Derek Jennings

On Saturday 15 June 2002 03:00, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:26:50 +0100

 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  As usual the BBC can be relied on http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/
 
  It was a good match  :-)
  As it happens Italy would have gone through even if they lost since
  Paraguay beat Croatia. Mexico looked quite impressive.
 
  derek

 Thanks, Derek. I've learned that FIFA has sold exclusive broadcast rights
 to 2002 World Cup to some company that, believe it or not, strictly
 prohibits the broadcast of real-time commentary via Internet. If only I
 had bought that world band radio like I always wanted :-(

 The coverage hear in the US has been pitiful. ESPN and ESPN2 should be
 ashamed. Or maybe it's the company that's restricting the broadcast rights
 that's to blame. You can pay $19.95 to see some lame video
 highlights--yeah, right! The day I have to pay extra to watch the Super
 Bowl is the day I buy a gun and start a revolution!


Shame... Its getting really good coverage here in the UK. Some of the games 
start at 7:30 am, but that is not stopping the pubs opening early, and 
everyone is missing work for the important games.  The cable operators are 
broadcasting repeats of the games 18 hours a day on 3 channels without 
adverts, so we get to see several games a day :-)
Today England play Denmark. So this afternoon will be devoted to footie .

If you had been able to see the matches I think you would be proud of the USAs 
performance. While not actually having the skill of Portugal, their teamwork 
led them to a deserved victory. Mexico also have been impressive. Now they 
have to play each other..

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Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory [getting OT]

2002-06-15 Thread robin

dfox wrote:



I imagine Mandrake would work OK with such a system. But personally I 
shy away with 'branded' computers - isn't there a way you can upgrade
the system you have, just get the components you need, and then install
on that? HPs a respected brand but I wouldn't buy a P4 system from any-
one - the processor is just too da*n crippled and too expensive. AMD is
far better choice. And you probably have some good HD space left, but if
not, you can save your orig drive(s) and move them into a new home. 



* IntelĀ® PentiumĀ® 4 1.60GHz Processor
* 512MB Memory
* 80GB Hard Drive
* 16x8x40x CDRW
* 16x DVD
* 3.5 1.44MB Floppy Drive
* nVidia TNT2 M64 32MB AGP graphics card


Note that apart from the video card, nothing is said about the makers
of the individual components. 

One thing I've noticed is that many prebuilt PCs use good hardware for 
the things they think people will notice (CPU, video card etc.) then 
skimp on the more obscure parts - frequently the motherboard (which is 
probably the component you need to choose most carefully!).  If you 
don't want to mess around assembling parts, a solution is to approach a 
small firm who will build one to your specs.  This way you can ensure 
you get what you want, and avoid getting Windows as well.

Sir Robin




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Re: [newbie] problem with run RPM files ..

2002-06-15 Thread robin

shane wrote:

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On Wednesday 04 December 2002 04:03 am, FARSHAD did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

hello
i have a problem with RPM files , when i run a RPM run by guest account
or root account i got a error message .. will be appear a box with title
can't display location and write below message into message box ..


try right clicking, and selecting software manager.

the trouble is RPM's are not a file you run but a package you install.  
think of them as zip files on steriods.

Shane -
Heh, nice description!  RPMs (or Debian packages, if you're so inclines) 
are one of the great advantages of Linux, especially now the urpmi 
command (and it's graphic partner, Mandrake's Software Manager) gets you 
out of most of those annoying dependency problems.

Farshad -
Note that most RPMs can't be run as is without being root.  There are 
ways you can make them install to a home directory (sometimes) - read 
man urpmi and man rpm if you want to do this.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Virus in Linus OS ...

2002-06-15 Thread robin

shane wrote:

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On Friday 14 June 2002 08:50 pm, D. Olson did speak unto the huddled masses, 
saying:

There are a grand total of 19 Linux viruses/trojans/worms, according to
the Linux virus encyclopedia.


...and the number in the wild is?  zero?


Well, there's Simile, but that's pretty harmless, and can only affect 
the infected user's home directory in any case.  I'd caution against  
the kind of Linux advocacy that says Linux is immune to all viruses, 
since it only takes one even slightly successful virus to make Windows 
users turn round and say Nyeh nyeh, you get them too.  Also remember 
that the average user doesn't know the difference between a virus, a 
trojan and a worm (hey we 'nix users invented worms before Windows even 
existed!).

Sir Robin




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Re: [newbie] Surround Sound

2002-06-15 Thread Anne Wilson

FemmeFatale wrote:

 Charlie wrote:
 
 
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:34:27 -0400

 
~~
Under any Linux distribution SB Live! and Audigy use the same emu10k1
drivers as far as I know. I thought it was a kernel module now but what the
devil do I know?

The project was being reworked the last time I checked since; as has been
said here before, Audigy support falls under the bleeding edge category.
Checking SourceForge just now I see EMU10K1 listed as Status 5:
Production/Stable as of May 25.

Here catch: http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1

As to Surround sound, if it ain't it's a damned good emulation! I have an
older SB Live! Value Digital (4.1 for certain and the earliest iteration of
5.1 from Creative Labs) and Altec Lansing speakers and it sure SEEMS like
full surround! There are songs that are apparently starting in one speaker
(front left for example) then building to include the rest in discrete
fashion.

I could be wrong, but I'm positive it sounds great. :-)
--
Charlie

 
 Heh good for you.  :)  Wish i had speakers that did that ... ah well.
 
 thx for the linky!  Hadn't gotten around to looking :)

I'm on 8.2, and the mixer says that I'm definitely using emu10k1, but 
I've only got thin sound from 2 speakers.  If you can do it, it must be 
possible.  I wonder what I'm missing?

Anne





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Re: [newbie] loki went bust???

2002-06-15 Thread Anne Wilson

robin wrote:

 D. Olson wrote:
 


 So... Companies are starting to support us. Now we need to support them.

 Now, I totally DISAGREE with the whole Linux users are stingy 
 bastards point you and that software developer make.

 Well, I didn't say that _all_ Linux users were stingy, but that is the 
 reputation we have, and I think there is something in it.  


 From my point of view, I'm happy that Linux software gives me a chance 
to look at it graatis.  If they then charge, as long as the price is 
reasonable, I'm willing to pay.  The labourer is worthy of his hire. 
I installed Mandrake from a magazine disc, liked it, and have now 
ordered disks from MandrakeSoft.

PC software must be the only business in which the customer is expected 
to put down sizeable chunks of cash, without knowing whether it will do 
what is required (or even run at all on his hardware) and having no 
chance of getting his money back if it doesn't.

The Linux model benefits us, and I agree that we should give whatever 
support we can in return.

Anne





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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)

2002-06-15 Thread et

on MY wishlist for MDK 9.0... voice activated menus. ( I liked viavoice in 
7.2, and install and use it still. seems to me the only viavoice that really 
worked) 

On Friday 14 June 2002 07:46 am, you wrote:
 On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:37 pm, Damian G wrote:
   [snip]
  
   Damian,
  
   clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not
   their job to make it look prettier. thats what desktop managers like
   KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right?
 
  .. i used KDE 3.0.1 a while and i dumped it when i found fluxbox ;o)
 
  but i think you didn't get my point. i'm not saying Mandrake has to
  improve KDE themes. that's up to kde-look .
 
 
  .. you will have perfect, beautiful icons, transparent menus,
  sleek 3D window decorations, gorgeous fonts with antialiasing.
  and a horrid mandrake control center icon that matches nothing,
  looks way too flat, and with opaque colors.

 http://damz.net/theme1/linux.html



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Re: [newbie] Surround Sound

2002-06-15 Thread et

On Wednesday 12 June 2002 02:40 pm, you wrote:
 FemmeFatale wrote:
  Charlie wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:34:27 -0400
 
 ~~
 Under any Linux distribution SB Live! and Audigy use the same emu10k1
 drivers as far as I know. I thought it was a kernel module now but what
  the devil do I know?
 
 The project was being reworked the last time I checked since; as has been
 said here before, Audigy support falls under the bleeding edge category.
 Checking SourceForge just now I see EMU10K1 listed as Status 5:
 Production/Stable as of May 25.
 
 Here catch: http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1
 
 As to Surround sound, if it ain't it's a damned good emulation! I have an
 older SB Live! Value Digital (4.1 for certain and the earliest iteration
  of 5.1 from Creative Labs) and Altec Lansing speakers and it sure SEEMS
  like full surround! There are songs that are apparently starting in one
  speaker (front left for example) then building to include the rest in
  discrete fashion.
 
 I could be wrong, but I'm positive it sounds great. :-)
 --
 Charlie
 
  Heh good for you.  :)  Wish i had speakers that did that ... ah well.
 
  thx for the linky!  Hadn't gotten around to looking :)

 I'm on 8.2, and the mixer says that I'm definitely using emu10k1, but
 I've only got thin sound from 2 speakers.  If you can do it, it must be
 possible.  I wonder what I'm missing?

 Anne
h my mixer says audigy



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Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory [getting OT]

2002-06-15 Thread Randy Kramer

robin wrote:
 dfox wrote:
 I imagine Mandrake would work OK with such a system. But personally I
 shy away with 'branded' computers - isn't there a way you can upgrade
 the system you have, just get the components you need, and then install
 on that? HPs a respected brand but I wouldn't buy a P4 system from any-
 one - the processor is just too da*n crippled and too expensive. AMD is
 far better choice. And you probably have some good HD space left, but if
 not, you can save your orig drive(s) and move them into a new home.

I understand Walmart is now selling computers, either with no operating
system, or with Lindows preinstalled -- it could be worth looking at.

BTW, I like cheap motherboards.  I've used TX-Pro II motherboards with
onboard sound and video for a number of years without problems on
Windows.  (I've had difficulty with Linux, but some of that is probably
my problem.  I am stuck at Xfree 3.3.6 on those motherboards, IIRC, and
don't have sound working.  (I normally don't use sound, don't have
speakers plugged in -- there is a slight possibility that sound does now
work (with some more recent installs) but I really haven't checked.

The newer motherboard I'm using is a Matsonic MS8308-E (or EP?).  On
board sound, video (works with the new Xfree -- 4.2.x?), NIC, and
special LMR slot for a modem.  (On board stuff is based on the SiS 730
chipset.)  One nice feature of the board is that the on board video is
AGP, but there is also an AGP slot, so if I want to plug in a better
video card I can.  I originally installed Mandrake 7.2 (after being
unsuccessful with Mandrake 8.0), and sound did not work.  Since then
I've upgraded to Mandrake 8.1 and then 8.2 but never tested the sound. 
I understand that the NIC does not work with Linux -- I've never tried
as I use coax on my network, and the on board NIC is RJ-45 (10/100).

Aside: The reason I switched motherboards is that the TX-Pro II could
handle a max of two 64 MB DIMMS (plus two SIMMs, IIRC, 32 MB each).  I
needed more memory.

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[newbie] making dos file system on floppy

2002-06-15 Thread Scott

I'm trying to format a floppy with a dos file system using the command
mkdosfs /dev/hdd .  I keep getting the error message mkdosfs: Will not try
to make filesystem on '/dev/hdd'.
I have a two drives in one floppy drive that is detected in harddrake as
both hdd and fd0.  It won't mount as fd0 though. I don't know if this is an
issue with making the filesystem or not.

What I'm trying to do is copy the patch.pl script that I need to install 8.2
to the floppy.  (I have an AMD-K6 processor.) I have tried making the floppy
in Windows but the installation fails.

Any help appreciated,
SW

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Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory

2002-06-15 Thread poogle

On Friday 14 June 2002 19:58 pm, Marcia wrote:
snip
 Dear All,

 The above message convinces me to consider very seriously to build my own
 computer by starting with a barebones kit-mainly this one below:

 Jetway 830CF Barebones w/ Duron 1Ghz. CPU $164.95 $149.95 On Sale!

I'm running one of these boards with a Duron 1200 - no probs, I would 
just quote the following from the mb manual ...provides 4x mode AGP slot 
support 4X AGP card for those wanting even greater graphic performance. 
However, due to the chipset's specification, on board AGP slot supports 
n-Vidia TNT series VGA card only 

-- 
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Re: [newbie] Virus in Linus OS ...

2002-06-15 Thread shane

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On Saturday 15 June 2002 06:52 am, robin did speak unto the huddled masses, 
saying:

 ...and the number in the wild is?  zero?

 Well, there's Simile, but that's pretty harmless, and can only affect
 the infected user's home directory in any case.  I'd caution against
 the kind of Linux advocacy that says Linux is immune to all viruses,
 since it only takes one even slightly successful virus to make Windows
 users turn round and say Nyeh nyeh, you get them too.

i agree completely, but while it is entirely possible to get infected, and 
we have to admit it, there is not yet a method (it will come though) and 
both transmition and effect are very limited.  the diversity in linux 
email, method and apps ensures transmition will be limited in the 
forseeable future, and the built in security ensures a limited scope of 
damage.  while we have to be careful, we also have to play on lour 
strengths.  ;)

...unless you run as root or like lindows OS.

gotta love random sigs.  :)

- -- 
Nimda virus affects Linux! My linux boxes have had their bandwidth chewed up 
by four thousand Nimda servers infected with IIS.

shane
Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html
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Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/
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Re: [newbie] making dos file system on floppy

2002-06-15 Thread et

any /dev/hd* will be a hard drive
try changing the hdd to fd0 that will be the Floppy Drive 0 (first in the 
bus). I kinda think you need a few different commands tho (I don't remember 
since I have not used a floppy in some time)




On Saturday 15 June 2002 10:33 am, you wrote:
 I'm trying to format a floppy with a dos file system using the command
 mkdosfs /dev/hdd .  I keep getting the error message mkdosfs: Will not
 try to make filesystem on '/dev/hdd'.
 I have a two drives in one floppy drive that is detected in harddrake as
 both hdd and fd0.  It won't mount as fd0 though. I don't know if this is an
 issue with making the filesystem or not.

 What I'm trying to do is copy the patch.pl script that I need to install
 8.2 to the floppy.  (I have an AMD-K6 processor.) I have tried making the
 floppy in Windows but the installation fails.

 Any help appreciated,
 SW

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[newbie] Re: Cleaning the current IPVS table

2002-06-15 Thread fsn

Shutting down 8.1 and it stopped, displayed
---
 Current state: Multi-user
 Cleaning the current IPVS table
---

What happened?
How do I get out of it?

--
Gerald Waugh






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[newbie] Mozilla Addressbook

2002-06-15 Thread John Richard Smith

How can I convert my large mozilla addressbook to html as a standard setting
 in a global fashion so as to avoid having to reset each individual 
entry manually.
Anyone know of a command line method perhaps ?

John




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Re: [newbie] Re: Cleaning the current IPVS table

2002-06-15 Thread fsn

 Shutting down 8.1 and it stopped, displayed
 ---
  Current state: Multi-user
  Cleaning the current IPVS table
 ---
 
 What happened?
 How do I get out of it?
 
I used the Alt+SysRq sequences to get out
Still can't figure, what happened

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Re: [newbie] Corrupt rpm database?

2002-06-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:36, robin wrote:
 Whenever I rpm or urpmi something, I get the following message:
 
 rpmdb: read: 0x4014b274, 4096: Input/output error
 rpmdb: Hash bucket 428 maps to non-hash page 518
 error: db3 error(-30985) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database 
 verification failed
 
 I assume my database is corrupt, but how do I fix it (I tried rpm 
 --rebuilddb to no avail)?
 
 Sir Robin

Robin, I searched thru my personal archives here and dug this up just
for you.  Someone posted the URL to this text a while back and I took
the time to commit the content of the web page to the hard drive.

Basically this procedure builds a text list of all rpm's that are
currently on the system using the find command, and then works up from
there; so the final rpm database result should (theoretically) be a
mirror image of what you actually have.  Not too shabby an idea;
although he does mention some caveats below that you should be aware
of.  This looks to be a procedure that should be refined and integrated
into Mandrake as a factory script some time in the future; it's a
major achilles heel of rpm based Linux systems right now.

So here it is:
_


 On one of my Mandrake Linux systems, I had once this problem: 
 [pascal@hermes pascal]$ su
 Password: 
 [root@hermes pascal]# rpm -q -a
 failed to open //var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm
 
 rpmQuery: rpmdbOpen() failed
 [root@hermes pascal]# rpm --rebuilddb
 failed to open //var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm
 
 [root@hermes pascal]# rpm --initdb
 [root@hermes pascal]# rpm -q -a
 failed to open //var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm
 
 rpmQuery: rpmdbOpen() failed
 [root@hermes pascal]# rpm --version
 RPM version 3.0.3


Well, clearly the RPM database was completely out of usage. I had to rebuild it.
You may think that it's simply a matter of using : 

   rpm --rebuilddb

 However, I learned that --rebuilddb is REALLY AND COMPLETELY USELESS. Maybe the
 authors and contributors to rpm could take some idea from this NFAQ to actually
 implement a true --rebuilddb option. 

The main idea of the process is to use: 

rm -f /var/lib/rpm/* ; rpm --initdb

 and: 

rpm -i -v --nodeps --noscripts --notriggers --excludepath / packages...

 to fill a package database without really installing anything (not overriding
 installed files, not running any script, ...). This is done in the seventh step;
 everything before I made to recover a list of installed packages. 

This is not perfect, since some packages I have upgraded or modified the sources
and upgraded. I should have checked for /usr/src/RPMS too; I'll update the
database later by hand to synchronize it with the handful of packages I touched
after the initial installation. 



+--+
| COOKBOOK PROCEDURE TO REBUILD A RPM DATABASE DAMAGED BEYOND HOPE |
+--+  


 BEWARE, THIS IS NOT AN AUTOMATIC SCRIPT!

 Use this only as a guideline to rebuild your rpm database.



#
# 1 # Find the files currently installed.
#   # ON THE HOST WHO LOST ITS RPM DATABASE.
#

find / -print | sort  /tmp/dsk-contents



#
# 2 # Find all the files installed by the installation RPMs, 
#   # with their corresponding RPM.
#

losetup /dev/loop0  /mnt/usr3/mandrake/mandrake61-1.iso 
mount -o ro -t iso9660 /dev/loop0 /mnt/cdrom

cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS
rm -f /tmp/rpm-contents
for f in *.rpm ; do 
rpm -q -l -p $f \
| awk -v pn=$f '{printf %s:%s\n,pn,$0;}'  /tmp/rpm-contents
done
sort -t: +1 -o /tmp/rpm-contents /tmp/rpm-contents



#
# 3 # Obtain the actually installed RPMs.
#



gzip -d  lgetvalue-src.tar.gz | tar xf -
cd lgetvalue-src
make all test


./lgetvalue--field-separator=: \
   --key-position=2 \
   --value-position=1 \
   /tmp/rpm-contents /tmp/dsk-contents \
| sort -u  /tmp/rpm-installed



#
# 4 # Reinitialize a new rpm database.
#

mv /var/lib/rpm /var/lib/rpm-damaged-beyond-hope
mkdir /var/lib/rpm
rpm --initdb



#
# 5 # Let rpm say what problems there may be 
#   # (trying to do a pseudo-installation.
#

cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS
rpm -i -v --noscripts --notriggers --excludepath /  `cat /tmp/rpm-installed`



#
# 6 # Correct the list of installed RPMs.
#

emacs /tmp/rpm-installed


#
# 7 # Rebuild the rpm data base, without installing any file 
#   # nor running any script.
#

rpm -i -v --nodeps --noscripts --notriggers --excludepath /  \
`cat /tmp/rpm-installed `


#
# 8 # Check you have a valid rpm database.
#

rpm -q -a 




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Re: [newbie] Virus in Linus OS ...

2002-06-15 Thread D. Olson

On Saturday 15 June 2002 10:26 am, you wrote:
 Nimda virus affects Linux! My linux boxes have had their bandwidth chewed
 up by four thousand Nimda servers infected with IIS.


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Re: [newbie] Corrupt rpm database?

2002-06-15 Thread robin

Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:36, robin wrote:

Whenever I rpm or urpmi something, I get the following message:

rpmdb: read: 0x4014b274, 4096: Input/output error
rpmdb: Hash bucket 428 maps to non-hash page 518
error: db3 error(-30985) from db-verify: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database 
verification failed

I assume my database is corrupt, but how do I fix it (I tried rpm 
--rebuilddb to no avail)?

Sir Robin


Robin, I searched thru my personal archives here and dug this up just
for you.  Someone posted the URL to this text a while back and I took
the time to commit the content of the web page to the hard drive.

Thanks, I'll try this when I get some non-critical time (i.e. nothing 
currently running, no urgent work-related tasks).  Things have actually 
got worse since my last post, as Software Manager is refusing to install 
anything - I get the insert CD message, insert the CD, then get the 
same message again (though that could be a different problem).

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Re: [newbie] loki went bust???

2002-06-15 Thread shane

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On Thursday 13 June 2002 11:01 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

  From my point of view, I'm happy that Linux software gives me a chance
 to look at it graatis.  If they then charge, as long as the price is
 reasonable, I'm willing to pay.  The labourer is worthy of his hire.
 I installed Mandrake from a magazine disc, liked it, and have now
 ordered disks from MandrakeSoft.

i have to admit that the real reason i first choose Mandrake over SuSE was 
SuSE's damn no free ISO for you! policy.  considering the amount of money 
i have sent Mandrake in the last few years, SuSE should hope i am the 
exception, not the rule...

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Re: [newbie] RPMs in CD 3 MDK 8.2

2002-06-15 Thread Warren Post

Welcome to Linux! Open the Mandrake Software Manager (should be on your
start menu at Configuration | Packaging | Software Manager). Here you
will have a complete list of all RPMs on all three CDs with a
description of what they do, what files they contain, where on your hard
disk they have been or would be installed, and more. You also can
install and uninstall any RPM with the Software Manager.

As you get to know Linux, the Software Manager will become one of your
most used tools. It's far more powerful and useful than those
unenlightening install.exe's you've used in Windows.

Warren

On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 04:31, FARSHAD wrote:
 hello
 i'm using from mdk 8.2 , in CD 3 there are very RPM files , if everybody have
 a full list of this PRMs with details for each file , please send for me ... i want
 know what's name apps (RPM) in CD 3 mdk 8.2 and i want know each app
 what do they do ?
 thanks alot
 bye
 






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Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K - LM

2002-06-15 Thread Warren Post

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 14:40, shane wrote: 
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 On Friday 14 June 2002 12:36 pm, Warren Post did speak unto the huddled 
 masses, saying:
 
  Short
  of changing the OS, however, I've been given carte blanche to improve
  the system. What should I be doing now to insure that a future
  migration to LM goes smoothly? I'm thinking of things like using FAT32
  wherever possible instead of NTFS, and migrating users from MS Office to
  OpenOffice.
 
 isn't changing to mandrake improving the system?  :)

That's certainly how I see it!

 what apps do they use?

* MS Office has been replaced by OpenOffice. 
* Corel is being replaced by The Gimp and OpenOffice Draw. Unresolved
problems so far are the lack of clip art and the inability to open
legacy Corel files. 
* MS Publisher, Broderbund Banner - I haven't found anything
sufficiently lobotomized to satisfy users accustomed to canned
solutions. 
* AutoCAD and ARCview - I haven't started looking for alternatives to
these yet.

But the Really Big App is a proprietary database and information
management system done in Visual Basic and Foxpro. Being able to run
this and access the Foxpro databases on the fileserver is what will make
or break a future migration to Linux. A few modules are still being
implemented by the contractor, and the programmers tell me that if Linux
can do Visual, the app should run fine.

The LAN has no connection to the outside world, so that makes things
easier. At the moment it's a simple workgroup but I have to change it to
a domain with MS Active Directory next week to make our new network
antivirus work. Though I was tempted to leave the system unprotected so
when the inevitable meltdown occurs I could tell management this
doesn't happen with Linux.  :-)

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Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K - LM

2002-06-15 Thread Warren Post

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 14:07, Joshua James wrote:
 At least if you switch to OpenOffice you'll save a ton of money on
 licensing.

US$10,625 is what we saved by not buying 25 licenses for MS Office...
and after a couple of days of help, MS Office users prefer OpenOffice.
The cost savings are what makes management sit up straight and pay
attention, so I'm pushing that. I have a mandate to eliminate illegal
software and have found a few workstations with copies of Windows that
are... er... prelegalized, so I may use one or two of those as Linux
testbeds and later present management with the price tag of _not_
switching to Linux.

 Users will also find something familiar when you switch them
 to linux down the road.

Yes, this is _really_ important to users. The Windows/MS Office/MSIE users I've shown 
Linux to like it but don't see it as anything practical, because they don't see their 
favorite apps. The Windows/OpenOffice/Netscape users I've shown Linux to say Wow! 
It's just like Windows, only better! We know, of course, that Linux isn't just like 
Windows, only better. But this kind of love at first sight on the part of users is 
what I want to achieve in order to insure a successful migration.

Warren





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Re: [newbie] loki went bust???

2002-06-15 Thread s

On Saturday 15 June 2002 12:42 pm, shane wrote:

 masses, saying:
   From my point of view, I'm happy that Linux software gives me a chance
  to look at it graatis.  If they then charge, as long as the price is
  reasonable, I'm willing to pay.  The labourer is worthy of his hire.
  I installed Mandrake from a magazine disc, liked it, and have now
  ordered disks from MandrakeSoft.

 i have to admit that the real reason i first choose Mandrake over SuSE was
 SuSE's damn no free ISO for you! policy.  considering the amount of money
 i have sent Mandrake in the last few years, SuSE should hope i am the
 exception, not the rule...


Nope you're not the only one.  Same exact situation here.  I'd might be an 
suse fan, had I been able to try it first.  Oh well, mandrake deserves my 
money more anyway.  :D
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Re: [newbie] making dos file system on floppy

2002-06-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich

On Saturday 15 June 2002 04:33 pm, Scott wrote:
 I'm trying to format a floppy with a dos file system using the command
 mkdosfs /dev/hdd .  I keep getting the error message mkdosfs: Will not
 try to make filesystem on '/dev/hdd'.
 I have a two drives in one floppy drive that is detected in harddrake as
 both hdd and fd0.  It won't mount as fd0 though. I don't know if this is an
 issue with making the filesystem or not.

 What I'm trying to do is copy the patch.pl script that I need to install
 8.2 to the floppy.  (I have an AMD-K6 processor.) I have tried making the
 floppy in Windows but the installation fails.

 Any help appreciated,
 SW

 ---
Scott, this is really weird. If I understand you correctly, you are unable to 
get this patch.pl  onto a floppy in order to install 8.2  on a K6-2 CPU, 
right ?

Then, how can you struggle with linux-commands like mkdosfs ? And, a 
floppy-drive is definately not /dev/hdd (that's the slave on the second 
IDE-bus). Floppies are /dev/fd0 , /dev/fd1 and so on

Did you somehow manage to install linux after all ? - And if, how ?

What happened if you - completely in Windows - formatted a floppy, then 
downloaded patch.pl directly to the floppy ? - That should be easy, even in 
Windows. And then tried to install 8.2 ? 

Did you follow instructions exactly ?  For your convinience, I'll repeat them 
below :

*Error scenario* : Unable to install or problems with installation
with K6 and Pentium I systems.
*Why* : Some packages on the Commercial CD were built with i686
instructions and as a result, when the installer generates the hdlist, it 
crashes when encountering this RPM and reports a problem of hdlist.
*Solution* : Format a floppy disk with a DOS filesystem (in Linux,
you can use the command mkdosfs /dev/fd0).  Copy patch.pl
to the floppy disk.  Remove the floppy and reboot using the Mandrake Linux
8.2 CD1 to do a CD-ROM installation.  During boot, press F1 at the splash
screen, then place your floppy disk that contains patch.pl in the floppy
drive.  At the prompt, type patch, then follow the installation as usual.

If still in trouble, please return to the list. It's getting late here, but 
this list is populated with nice people all over the globe. And to repeat 
myself : I'm sure we can get you going.

HTH
Kaj Haulrich
Denmark



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[newbie] MySQL

2002-06-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

I went on a MySQL book hunt a while back and I've seen most of them,
since I used to work in a MySQL shop.  OReilly is OK, it's the easiest
to get your hands on, but this one stood out from the rest qualitywise
to me:

MySQL by Paul DuBois

New Riders Publishing

ISBN # 0-7357-0921-1

Amazon used book listing for MySQL:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/offering-page/ref=sdp_ab_ub/103-5215189-3195846?index=fixed-pricefield-offering-type=usedfield-asin=0735709211field-status=opensize=25rank=+price

It has more about the MySQL C Api than any other book I've seen. 
Content is in depth and superb.


HTH,

LX




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Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K - LM

2002-06-15 Thread FemmeFatale

Warren Post wrote:
  Users will also find something familiar when you switch them
  to linux down the road.
 
 Yes, this is _really_ important to users. The Windows/MS Office/MSIE users I've 
shown Linux to like it but don't see it as anything practical, because they don't see 
their favorite apps. The Windows/OpenOffice/Netscape users I've shown Linux to say 
Wow! It's just like Windows, only better! We know, of course, that Linux isn't 
just like Windows, only better. But this kind of love at first sight on the part of 
users is what I want to achieve in order to insure a successful migration.
 
 Warren
 
sounds very successful to me. :)

Now help me convince my g/f ;p
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We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux.  I've always liked that
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack

2002-06-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 00:37, dfox wrote:
   Hat ha eddig nem volt nyilvanvalo :-()
 
 My hovercraft is full of eels.
 
 (ducking)
 
 

LOL!  :)

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Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K - LM

2002-06-15 Thread shane

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On Saturday 15 June 2002 02:16 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

 Now help me convince my g/f ;p

can't be done, g/fs are beyond reason by definition.  ;)

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Re: [newbie] OT: Pre-migration strategies: Win2K - LM

2002-06-15 Thread Mark Van Bruggen



  On 16/06/2002,

 shane did utter into the folds of space:


 On Saturday 15 June 2002 02:16 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled 
 masses, saying:

 Now help me convince my g/f ;p

 can't be done, g/fs are beyond reason by definition.  ;)



  A bumper sticker I have seen:

  If it has tits or tyres its TROUBLE


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Re: [newbie] loki went bust???

2002-06-15 Thread D. Olson

 i have to admit that the real reason i first choose Mandrake over SuSE was
 SuSE's damn no free ISO for you! policy.  considering the amount of money
 i have sent Mandrake in the last few years, SuSE should hope i am the
 exception, not the rule...

Well, I am an exception too...



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Re: [newbie] Corrupt rpm database?

2002-06-15 Thread g

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robin wrote:

 I assume my database is corrupt, but how do I fix it (I tried rpm
 --rebuilddb to no avail)?

can not say about your data base, but your clock is not in
best of shape.


tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] making dos file system on floppy

2002-06-15 Thread Brian Parish

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 00:29, et wrote:
 On Saturday 15 June 2002 10:33 am, you wrote:
  I'm trying to format a floppy with a dos file system using the command
  mkdosfs /dev/hdd .  I keep getting the error message mkdosfs: Will not
  try to make filesystem on '/dev/hdd'.
  I have a two drives in one floppy drive that is detected in harddrake as
  both hdd and fd0.  It won't mount as fd0 though. I don't know if this is an
  issue with making the filesystem or not.
 
  What I'm trying to do is copy the patch.pl script that I need to install
  8.2 to the floppy.  (I have an AMD-K6 processor.) I have tried making the
  floppy in Windows but the installation fails.
 
  Any help appreciated,
  SW
 
  ---
 also you can not mount a drive that does not have a file system on it. I have 
 not run into the need for the patch.pl. what does it do? and who needs it to 
 install?
 
Ed,

That patch is needed when installing on a K6 or P1 system.  See the
errata on 8.2

SW,

It's tough to understand why the patch can't be made to work when copied
to a floppy under windows, but in any case I would hope that it were
possible in Mandrake as well ;-)

Sounds like you may be using a pre-8.2 version with supermount and/or
devfs screwing up your floppy access.  If so, (or maybe even if not) try
this:

1. As root, edit /etc/lilo.conf with your favorite text editor. 
Wherever you see devfs=mount, make it devfs=nomount.

2. Still as root, type the command lilo (without the quotes)

3. Type the command supermount -i disable (without the quotes)

4. Reboot

Now you have devfs and supermount switched off.

As root in a console:

mkdosfs /dev/fd0
mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
cp patch.pl /mnt/floppy/

Should work, but note that this will also have changed (fixed?) access
to your CDROM as well.  If you need help with accessing it after, just
post again.

Brian




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