Re: [newbie-it] ADSL
Il Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:51:01 +0100 (CET) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ebbe a dire: ..meglio ETH senza dubbio.Io direi di preoccuparti invece della banda..cercane una con minimo garantito. Fulvio ottimo suggerimento, ne conoscete qualcuna non troppo costosa adatta ad un uso casalingo? finora trovo sono soluzioni per aziende. ciao GPaolo direi libero ADSlFast o Alice Flat se vuoi rimanere fino ai 300k altrimenti se hai qualche anima pia con partita iva che si presta...lei scarica fiscalmente e tu ti occipi di pagare i conti :-) Fulvio
Re: [newbie-it] Ambiente Grafico
At 20.25 14/02/2003 +0100, you wrote: 1. modificando /etc/inittab e mettendo initdefault:3 all'avvio entri in runlevel 3; quindi ti logghi in modo testo e con startx avvii l'interfaccia grafica. quando esci da x rientri in modo testo [in questo caso Crtl+Alt+Backspace chiudono x facendoti ritrovate la shell nuda e cruda] Questa deve essere la mia situazione attuale (a parte che lancio l'interfaccia grafica con KDE...) Se non che uscendo da X, mi sembra che dia degli errori; premo Enter e mi rimostra il prompt (il $ tanto per capirci...) sugli AIL trovi tutta la sequenza di init sistem V spiegata bene Ok, dove li posso trovare/scaricare? Grazie Andrea
[newbie-it] circa urpmi
si verifica una cosa strana: voglio aggiungere un database locale di rpm, e quindi l'ho creato con urpmi.addmedia LocalesRPM file://path/LocalesRPM mdk lo crea, creando anche (scusate il gioco di parole...) tali file hdlist.LocalesRPM.cz e list.LocalesRPM, ma non il file syntesis.hdlist.LocalesRPM.cz. Difatti quando vado a interrogare il database con un urpmq -pacchetto- (il quale -pacchetto- risiede proprio nella dir di questo database..) mi dice: problema nel leggere il file synthesis del supporto LocalesRPM nessun pacchettto denominato -pacchetto- Ho provato anche a dare un urpmi.addmedia -f eccetera... e un urpmi.addmedia -h, e addirittura entrambe -ch (rispettivamente, dall'help di urpmi.addmedia -h: prova a trovare ed usare la sintesi o l'hdlist file; -f: forza la generazione degli hdlist file.). In verita una volta ero riuscito a crearlo, ma dopo aver fatto un rpmbuild -ta tarball (ho creato un rpm da un tar.gz) si e' tutto sfasciato: non penso che l'evento conti...ma io l'ho riportato lo stesso... O meglio, sfasciato = il database locale non era + accessibile, e non sono + riuscito a crearlo. Tra l'altro, mi sono state eliminate alcune delle altri fonti che avevo registrato (in particolare una http e una ftp). Davvero non so dove sbattere + la testa...sono giorni che ci sclero sopra... Magari c'è qualcuno che sa come risolvere... Grazie...Byez :D - all'umanita bisogna essere superiori per forza, per nobilta d'animo, per disprezzo Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, 1888, prefazione a L'Anticristo = k0sm|k0, LU #273492 LM #156481, on Linux Mandrake 9.0
[newbie-it] Mail
Ciao a tutti, Dunque, se uso Kmail come client di posta, crea una dir mail in /home/user/, Qualcuno mi sa dire quale programma o comando fa in modo che la posta vada in /var/spool/mail? Grazie
Re: [newbie-it] ADSL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Io direi di preoccuparti invece della banda..cercane una con minimo garantito. AFAIK nessun attuale ISP garantisce un minimo di larghezza di banda :-( Ho sentito di gente che in adsl, in certi periodi, ha un downstream di circa 30K ... Una pena :-( Ah! Il canone pero' e' sempre uguale! Quello si che e' garantito :-D Bye ;-) Giovanni -- (o //\Membro del FoLug - http://folug.linux.it V_/_Red Hat 8.0 GNU/Linux Powered --- There is no system other than GNU. And Linux is one of its kernels.
Re: [newbie-it] Ambiente Grafico
Alle 16:29, sabato 15 febbraio 2003, Andrea Cecagallina ha scritto: all'avvio entri in runlevel 3; quindi ti logghi in modo testo e con startx avvii l'interfaccia grafica. Questa deve essere la mia situazione attuale (a parte che lancio l'interfaccia grafica con KDE...) Se non che uscendo da X, mi sembra che dia degli errori; premo Enter e mi rimostra il prompt (il $ tanto per capirci...) facceli vedere questi errori (e comunque quel modo di uscire non è pulitissimo...) sugli AIL trovi tutta la sequenza di init sistem V spiegata bene Ok, dove li posso trovare/scaricare? non ricordo al volo ma S.google ti aiuta senz'altro sono parecchi mega di pdf, se invece opti per la versione html puoi scaricare solo i capitoli che ti interessano con wget -r -ln_livelli http://URL Grazie Andrea bye miKe -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932
[newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
I thought this would have been a required package to be installed by default but its not installed. I have been browsing through my RH security book Red Hat Linux Security and Optimization by Mohammed Kabir. I was actually going through the RH8 security section on NFS and it pointed to securing portmon which pointed to tcpwrappers. I then looked in the book to find more detailed info than what i was finding on websites about NFS/tcpwrappers and it showed that xinetd should be compiled running the configure script with --with-libwrap=/usr/libwrap.a. So i looked for the file libwrap.a to see if it was installed and no it was not. I then looked to check to see if tcpd (tcpwrappers) was installed and no it was not. I was wondering why this was so. Any thoughts? Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 19:20, Robert Wideman wrote: I thought this would have been a required package to be installed by default but its not installed. I have been browsing through my RH security book Red Hat Linux Security and Optimization by Mohammed Kabir. I was actually going through the RH8 security section on NFS and it pointed to securing portmon which pointed to tcpwrappers. I then looked in the book to find more detailed info than what i was finding on websites about NFS/tcpwrappers and it showed that xinetd should be compiled running the configure script with --with-libwrap=/usr/libwrap.a. So i looked for the file libwrap.a to see if it was installed and no it was not. I then looked to check to see if tcpd (tcpwrappers) was installed and no it was not. I was wondering why this was so. Any thoughts? Rob I'd tend to reckon because MDK is being designed and marketed as a desktop distro instead of a server distro - hence the emphasis on desktop stuff and not on dev stuff or server security stuff...but that's on my eyeballs... -- Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:20:00 +1100 8:20pm up 3:10, 4 users, load average: 0.58, 0.63, 0.55 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- we just switched to FDDI. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
I'd tend to reckon because MDK is being designed and marketed as a desktop distro instead of a server distro - hence the emphasis on desktop stuff and not on dev stuff or server security stuff...but that's on my eyeballs... True. But there are still some security measures that you would want to be able to take. Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be servers. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] sound in MDK9
I have finally installed a soundcard (Live Value) into my linux boxthere is a first for everything. I installed the XMMS rpm and it plays sound fine. The only problem is when i switch to my windows box the windows box plays sound LOUDER than my linux box. I know that when i had windows on box boxes and souncards running in box this box that linux is on played louder then the other box b/c the LIVE card is more amplified than my A7V333 soundcard. Other than on the XMMS display, is there anyother place in linux to adjust the sound like in windows you have the speaker in the system tray AND the volume coming from the program (winamp in this case). I do not see any in the menusconfiguration Any thoughts? Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] letting users use root commands
My issue is resolved. i had tried this before but didnt work at the time rpmdrake has 755 permissions on it by default. I had to change this to 775 AND add the user to wheel group. Also i checked the groups out by group username and made sure i was listed as correct Working fine. Thanks for the help Stephen. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list
On Saturday 15 Feb 2003 2:51 am, et wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 08:05 pm, robin wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I thought this would be a fun question to discuss. How can you tell you are not a Newbie anymore? If you're lucky, you never stop being a newbie. Sir Robin Notme I sware that after the all the critters die, and the kids move out on their own, I am going right out and get me a life. Listen to the wisdom of the aged - it never happens g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Compact Flash Card in PCMCIA slot does not work in 9.0, it did work in Mdk 8.2
Hi everyone, now I just upgraded to Kernel: #uname -a Linux me 2.4.19-24mdk #1 Thu Jan 30 13:13:07 MST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux Because I thought it might be a Kernel issue. As I said everthing worked fine in Mdk 8.2 but it is broken since 9.0. The issue is, that I cannot mount the card anymore. When I plug it in the Notebook (IBM Thinkpad A22p) I get the following output in /var/log/messages: Feb 15 10:40:21 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa000-0xa0ff: clean. Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: hde: 3S SYSTEM, ATA DISK drive Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 3 Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: hde: 250368 sectors (128 MB) w/2KiB Cache, CHS=978/8/32 Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: devfs_do_symlink(disc0): could not append to parent, err: -17 Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: ide_cs: hde: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0 Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Feb 15 10:40:24 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: devfs_do_symlink(disc0): could not append to parent, err: -17 Feb 15 10:40:25 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Feb 15 10:40:25 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: devfs_do_symlink(disc0): could not append to parent, err: -17 Feb 15 10:40:25 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Feb 15 10:40:25 dclient217-162-39-126 kernel: devfs_do_symlink(disc0): could not append to parent, err: -17 The last two lines continue forever if I don't take out the CF card again. While the card is in the system monitor shows me 100% processor activity and top shows me that drakupdate_fstab is running at top but takes up only 10% of of CPU power, so I guess it is the Kernel that needs the rest. # dmesg VFS: Disk change detected on device 21:00 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 devfs_do_symlink(disc0): could not append to parent, err: -17 which repeats itself again... in my /etc/fstab I have: /dev/hde1 /mnt/flash auto noauto,user 0 0 which worked just fine in Mdk 8.2. Anyway I think it is not an fstab business because of the /var/log/messages output... I guess I will try to get the old kernel from 8.2 in 9.0 if that works it isn't such a big deal - I just need it to put some mp3 on the CF for the Zaurus, I can do that with a dual boot. But help is still very much apreciated, there may be something wrong with Mdk9.0 or the Kernel they are using... Anyway that is my guess until someone shows me that I was really stupid and forgot the obvious again. some more infos: the 100% CPU use stays a few minutes after I took the CF card out and plugging in the card in the second slot does not help - tha same thing happens... Kernel 2.4.19-16mdk (I guess) which is standard in 9.0 had the same issue, the only one that I tested and worked is the one in 8.2. I keep my newbie and expert mails, it dates back until end of last year. I searched them for Compact Flash and CF card and got no useful messages that indicate this issue has already been addressed. But if it was - please point me to the right direction. Thank you, b. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound in MDK9
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 03:37:30 -0600 Robert Wideman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have finally installed a soundcard (Live Value) into my linux boxthere is a first for everything. I installed the XMMS rpm and it plays sound fine. The only problem is when i switch to my windows box the windows box plays sound LOUDER than my linux box. I know that when i had windows on box boxes and souncards running in box this box that linux is on played louder then the other box b/c the LIVE card is more amplified than my A7V333 soundcard. Other than on the XMMS display, is there anyother place in linux to adjust the sound like in windows you have the speaker in the system tray AND the volume coming from the program (winamp in this case). I do not see any in the menusconfiguration Any thoughts? Rob In KDE: K - multimedia - sound -kmix. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound in MDK9
On Saturday 15 Feb 2003 9:37 am, Robert Wideman wrote: I have finally installed a soundcard (Live Value) into my linux boxthere is a first for everything. I installed the XMMS rpm and it plays sound fine. The only problem is when i switch to my windows box the windows box plays sound LOUDER than my linux box. I know that when i had windows on box boxes and souncards running in box this box that linux is on played louder then the other box b/c the LIVE card is more amplified than my A7V333 soundcard. Other than on the XMMS display, is there anyother place in linux to adjust the sound like in windows you have the speaker in the system tray AND the volume coming from the program (winamp in this case). I do not see any in the menusconfiguration Any thoughts? Rob Have you tried Multimedia Sound KMix Settings Configure KMix, where there is an option to enable system tray volume control? I do find, however, that the slider responds to gravity somewhat - I have to hitch it up now and again. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kmail external editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I would like to use emacs at Kmail external editor, but what would be right path to do so? I have tried to write Kmail setup external editor line: emacs /home/user/Mail/inbox/cur or emacs /home/user/Mail/inbox/tmp but neither ones are not good choiches. Or is it impossible to use emacs in Kmail integrated such way as one can integrate favorite editor in Mutt? In Mutt I could use emacs at all tasks. I'm grateful for any information :) tuija -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Thsp7MvybWBkvx4RAhRVAKCkyysxPk8EAEPBzumA5cj5/9uWVACeJB5z 9FI2FnKB/QU8dZnrYVV+o1E= =QXd5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] sound in MDK9
In KDE: K - multimedia - sound -kmix. Great, thanks. Working. Now its blowing MS out of the water. Also can be used in Gnome. Just type kmix in the CLI and an icon window opens. Right click it and select configure kmix. Also left click it shows the master volume. Thanks Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 20:32, Robert Wideman wrote: I'd tend to reckon because MDK is being designed and marketed as a desktop distro instead of a server distro - hence the emphasis on desktop stuff and not on dev stuff or server security stuff...but that's on my eyeballs... True. But there are still some security measures that you would want to be able to take. Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be servers. Rob The version of IIS that lives on workstation versions of Win2k/WinXP is a very sad rendition of what a webserver should be - but, luckily enough, most people serious change to Apache for Windows or something along the same lines - and something without as many holes/bugs/shortcomings as IIS. I continue to build a CD for my linux/networking tools for any distro I either load or test - tcpwrapper is part of that package - along with heaps of other little cool tools/toys. I'm currently building a listing of the problems/shortcomings for the MDK 9.1b in my SPARE time (as if I've got heaps currently) - I'm sure that that is something I'll end up discovering in my full installation - as I've already found I'm missing still yet some dev tools and the likes...ah well...all in the game... -- Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:50:00 +1100 9:50pm up 4:40, 3 users, load average: 0.75, 0.24, 0.19 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Kids, kids, kids. As far as Daddy's concerned, you're both potential murderers. -- Homer Simpson Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part 2) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 23:30, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Stephen, aren't we getting off the trail (thread) here ? The original post was about privacy. My reply was just a frustrated remark about governments not respecting the civil rights of their own citizens. I live in a country where various governments don't give a shit about the individual citizen. But they don't kill us. They just want to control us. They use M$ software. Accordingly, they can't. Now, I don't condemn the the U.S. - In fact I envy them. Only I don't understand their attitude towards the M$ fascism. Does M$ *own* the American judges ? Good question, Kaj. IT people in the US are wondering that very same question. But I think what happened was that the current administration cut a deal with M$; Gates was going out personally at one time to speak with senators on a one to one basis in order to lobby support for his cause. So lobby money probably bought them out of their fix with the DOJ. I'm a republican, of course. And for the most part, I think this administration has been the best that America has ever had. (at the risk of starting even more OT.) But there is this M$ thing, and it is the one thing I have been most dissatisfied with with regard to our leadership. Microsoft should not have gotten away with being a monopoly; especially after 9 states expressed their extreme discontent with the supreme court ruling. Little ms peacenik Kotar-Kotelly screwed things up royally. She was definitely in somebody's side pocket. I mean, how many judges did they go through before they finally got one that was a suck-up? Nevertheless, I'm old enough to remember Adolph. I'm ashamed on behalf of the German government. We're not in that line of heritage, are we? Kaj Haulrich. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.2-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] If I have to have MSIE...
Valuable information, Rob. Thanks! LX On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 11:08, Robert Wideman wrote: I have to have MSIE. I don't like the browser, but I do a little web design and I need to have MSIE handy (and multiple versions, no less) to test my work in -- as I learned the hard way last week. :-( Given that Bill's Bad Browser isn't and will probably never be available for Linux, how have others on this list with the same need handled this? On a windows box go DL ie6setup.exe and run the following from StartRun: d:\downloads\ie6setup.exe /c:ie6wzd.exe /d /s:#E This worked for me in DLing ALL FILES to the d:\downloads\ folder. The second part i forget, but i did a search on google and that is the info i got. There is a Q-based article on support.microsoft.com on how to do this. Here is the website link i found on HOWTO. http://www.thetechguide.com/forum/showflat.php?Board=softwareNumber=4950 Here is the M$ article on HOWTO: http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q257249; Then you can move those files to a Linux box and install IE6 via wine. Rob -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.2-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Compact Flash Card in PCMCIA slot does not work in 9.0, it did work in Mdk 8.2
Hi again, It seems to be a kernel issue, I just installed the old 8.2. Kernels (2.4.18 doesn't work with the modules for 2.4.19) but 2.4.19 from Mdk 8.2. works just fine. I copied the old Kernel sources for 2.4.19 to /usr/src/ together with the old initrd and vmlinuz (which go into /boot/) setup the new Kernel boot with the MCC boot-config tool. Booted into it. And... Now the Compact Flash Card works just fine. The vmware compilation to custom build the modules for this kernel also worked with the copied old sources. So I guess I just use the old 8.2. Kernel for work. Everything seems to work. old-Kernel (with working CF card): # uname -a Linux me 2.4.19-16mdk #1 Fri Sep 20 18:15:05 CEST 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux I don't really know how to proceed from here. Do I need to inform somebody that 2.4.19 kernels from Mandrake in Mdk 9.0 have a bug? Do they really? (The working 2.4.19 Kernel from Mdk 8.2 and the not-working 9.0 Kernels indicate this)... Has anybody had the same problem with CF cards? I hope somebody reads this and informs either me that I did something wrong or informs the people at Mandrake that there is a CF card issue with the new Kernels. b. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list
Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 04:09 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: I thought this would be a fun question to discuss. How can you tell you are not a Newbie anymore? How about: When you get up enough guts to post on the Cooker list. Then you're just a newbie in a bigger pond! Maybe when you upload something to the Cooker . Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lovin' KDE 3.1
On Friday 14 February 2003 02:09 pm, Gil Katz wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 04:58, Miark wrote: Anne Jordan, I downloaded the RPMs from the following location to a single folder: http://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/dist ri butions/mandrake/9.0/KDE-3.1/ Then in runlevel 3 from within that folder I did a urpmi ./*.rpm and that was it. When I started KDE, not only did everything work, but it kept all my bookmarks and settings. It was the epitome of effortless. Miark On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:07:39 + Jordan Elver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 10:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 10:41 pm, Miark wrote: I gotta report that I just installed Texstar's KDE 3.1 on my MDK 9.0 box and I just love it. The look is beautiful with alpha-blending, the new Keramik theme, and new icons; and I really dig tabbed browsing in Konq. Another nail in M$'s coffin, I think. How easy is this install for a newbie, Miark? I'd be interested too. I downloaded the rpms and then lost my nerve :) -- Jordan Elver The office is like an army, and I'm the field general. You're my footsoldiers and customer quality is the WAR!!! -- David Brent (The Office) I run urpmi ./*.rpm on the rpm from texstar and got Installation failed: libarts == 1.1.0-1tex is needed by arts-1.1.0-1tex kdelibs == 3.1-3tex is needed by kdelibs-devel-3.1-3tex libarts == 1.1.0-1tex is needed by libarts-devel-1.1.0-1tex Why? G I did this and got Installation failed. Some files are missing. You may want to update your urpmi database. I'm running the 9.0 download edition. MtnMan -- 8:42am up 3 days, 22:37, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
On Saturday 15 February 2003 10:54 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip We're not in that line of heritage, are we? /snip Certainly not, Lyvim ! Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly dumb USB question
Roger Sherman wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, g wrote: Roger Sherman wrote: I was digging around in my desk the other day, and found a cheesy little USB webcam that Earthlink sent me about 3 years ago. ok. now add a little intelligence to your post, such as system and which 'cheesy little usb webcam' earthlink sent you. Hey, add a little intelligence to your reading skills. I described my system later in the post, and would have been happy to tell what kind of webcam it was if it had any kind of identifying marks, other than just saying Earthlink on it. You know what? Don't even bother adding that much - just keep it to yourself next time, jerkoff. I had assummed that by intelligence he meant information (as in military intelligence) not IQ. Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list
On Friday 14 February 2003 08:05 pm, robin wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I thought this would be a fun question to discuss. How can you tell you are not a Newbie anymore? When you know enough to realize that you don't know very much. MtnMan -- 9:01am up 3 days, 22:56, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.15, 0.17 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing wm with gnome2
Ok, she tried that and got: [rhonda@localhost rhonda]$ You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish (she did it via sudo from a user account) so i logged into gnome and tried it via sudo, as a regular user, and as root. [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish [1] 1951 [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ (same output for root) On 15 Feb 2003 18:55:23 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 18:43, Jerry Barton wrote: OK... one of my converts wants to use a different window manager in gnome like was available in 1.4. Is it possible with gnome 2? or are we stuck with metacity? TIA Jerry Whilst in GNOME2 - open a term, and type: killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish After Sawfish starts (nicely), save the session, then logout...then back in again. That should do it. -- Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:50:01 +1100 6:50pm up 1:40, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.18, 0.24 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- We are all worms. But I do believe I am a glowworm. -- Winston Churchill -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list
Greg Meyer wrote: I thought this would be a fun question to discuss. How can you tell you are not a Newbie anymore? All this humility is very nice. ;-) that aside, it's interesting how the responses have been. with anything and especially with opinion it's really a matter of perspective, and It becomes a relative thing as well. When I first tried Linux RH 5.2 ( I think ) I would say I was an absolute Newbie. Now after several years can I say I am an Expert? Most definitely NOT, but I don't feel I am a true Newbie either. I would call myself a User in perpetual training ( I really don't think I'll ever be an expert though because that would take more brains than I have left. ) But then , That's purely from MY perspective, massive grin I Like a saying of Confucius : to know that what you know is what you know, is not knowledge, But to know that what you do not know is what you do not know That is the beginning of understanding somethng like that. -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA ~~ Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 9.1-beta3 with Kde 3.1; MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Kde 3.1 Registered Linux User #248955 ~~ If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing wm with gnome2
On 15 Feb 2003 18:55:23 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 18:43, Jerry Barton wrote: OK... one of my converts wants to use a different window manager in gnome like was available in 1.4. Is it possible with gnome 2? or are we stuck with metacity? TIA Jerry Whilst in GNOME2 - open a term, and type: killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish After Sawfish starts (nicely), save the session, then logout...then back in again. That should do it. -- Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:50:01 +1100 6:50pm up 1:40, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.18, 0.24 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- We are all worms. But I do believe I am a glowworm. -- Winston Churchill OK, she said it didn't work so i tried it on mine: [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish [1] 2588 [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ sudo killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish Password: [1] 2610 [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ su Password: [root@supertrouper jerry]# killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish [1] 2656 [root@supertrouper jerry]# You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish [root@supertrouper jerry]# ps ax | grep metacity 2652 ?S 0:00 metacity --sm-save-file 1045039776-993-3934521840.ms 2665 pts/0S 0:00 grep metacity [root@supertrouper jerry]# hmmm Jerry -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing wm with gnome2
OOPS... wasn't sure if my first message went through. fiddled with it a bit, took out the sleep command so it was just killall -9 metacity; exec sawfish and it worked. she reports the same. reason i did it: it'd kill metacity but i think it just started it right back up again (screen flashed, waited 10 sec then gave me that message about only running one wm at a time) so, solved. thanks again Stephen :D rhonda reports hers worked too when she removed sleep. Jerry On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:42:39 -0700 Jerry Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Feb 2003 18:55:23 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 18:43, Jerry Barton wrote: OK... one of my converts wants to use a different window manager in gnome like was available in 1.4. Is it possible with gnome 2? or are we stuck with metacity? TIA Jerry Whilst in GNOME2 - open a term, and type: killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish After Sawfish starts (nicely), save the session, then logout...then back in again. That should do it. -- Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:50:01 +1100 6:50pm up 1:40, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.18, 0.24 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- We are all worms. But I do believe I am a glowworm. -- Winston Churchill OK, she said it didn't work so i tried it on mine: [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish [1] 2588 [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ sudo killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish Password: [1] 2610 [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish [jerry@supertrouper jerry]$ su Password: [root@supertrouper jerry]# killall -9 metacity; sleep 10; exec sawfish [1] 2656 [root@supertrouper jerry]# You may only run one window manager [1]+ Exit 1 exec sawfish [root@supertrouper jerry]# ps ax | grep metacity 2652 ?S 0:00 metacity --sm-save-file 1045039776-993-3934521840.ms 2665 pts/0S 0:00 grep metacity [root@supertrouper jerry]# hmmm Jerry -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Update database
I thought I had set up a cron job (using webmin) to update the database every night. Indeed, I thought I had seen indication that it had run, but today I have seen slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old How can I find what went wrong? Could it be that I have set it as a user and it needs to be root? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sendmail question person, look at this, OT Thread hijack... mail server @ home?
On Friday 14 February 2003 10:32 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 09:31 AM 2/14/2003 -0600, you wrote: And yes i deleted all my email and NO i didnt want to look up the subject on the archives...deal with it, :) I see some ppl n the list setup mail servers in their home... Whats the reason for that? - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert same reason a dog licks it's balls? 'cause they can' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list
On Friday 14 February 2003 09:31 pm, mycal62 wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I thought this would be a fun question to discuss. How can you tell you are not a Newbie anymore? All this humility is very nice. ;-) that aside, it's interesting how the responses have been. with anything and especially with opinion it's really a matter of perspective, and It becomes a relative thing as well. When I first tried Linux RH 5.2 ( I think ) I would say I was an absolute Newbie. Now after several years can I say I am an Expert? Most definitely NOT, but I don't feel I am a true Newbie either. I would call myself a User in perpetual training ( I really don't think I'll ever be an expert though because that would take more brains than I have left. ) But then , That's purely from MY perspective, massive grin I Like a saying of Confucius : to know that what you know is what you know, is not knowledge, But to know that what you do not know is what you do not know That is the beginning of understanding somethng like that. I often say the one thing I learned about computers in 1992 that I still use, and is still true, is that what ever you buy today will be obosolete in 3 years, and the same goes with software, (actully I have one program that was written for win95 and I bought in 1995, that I still use almost every day, and that is winfax for win 95, since I have kept my hourly billing on it as a faxed document since 1995 but the OS it ran on is no longer avail, good thing it still runs using other M$products) and I still use pine when I ssh into a shell account, and it has been around (without much change that I can see) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lovin' KDE 3.1----STOP USING MY LINK I KNOW IT DOESNT WORK
On Saturday 15 February 2003 01:19 am, Robert Wideman wrote: Did anyone read my emial a few hours ago??? STOP USING MY LINK WITH THE HTTP:// IN THERE, CHANGE IT TO FTP:// FIRST. Rob we are not going to read anything from RW that is using so many caps. so there. PPPPpppthst. and my child says since you are useing so many caps (shouting) I should offer to bust a cap, with Tony Soprano, on them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly dumb USB question
Roger Sherman wrote: Hey, add a little intelligence to your reading skills. I described my system later in the post, and would have been happy to tell what kind of webcam it was if it had any kind of identifying marks, other than just saying Earthlink on it. so you did. no need to get your panties in a wad. error on my part. must not have scrolled down far enough in your post. learning a new version of netscape and have not learn all of it's features. anyway, reason i asked about more info is that if your camera happens to be made by alaris, which is one of what earthlink was sending out, you might have a look at; http://www.alaris.com/elnmshotdeals/home.htm http://www.alaris.com/software/drivers_support_main.htm http://www.usb-drivers.com/ http://www.video-drivers.com/companies/55.htm http://developers.webcamworld.com/ http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/cameras.html http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=FGB-V000 and a couple threads you might want a look at; http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jan/0169.html http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jan/0162.html http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jan/0174.html http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jan/0515.html http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jan/0514.html http://lists.golum.org/pipermail/golum/2000-October/000927.html http://lists.golum.org/pipermail/golum/2000-October/000930.html http://lists.golum.org/pipermail/golum/2000-October/000935.html http://lists.golum.org/pipermail/golum/2000-October/000937.html hth. so, kafaba. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Possibly dumb USB question
Robin wrote: I had assummed that by intelligence he meant information (as in military intelligence) not IQ. this is true. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Tkinter widget layout question
Hi all, Is there someone here who can point me to a resource that tells me how to lay out widgets in Tkinter (using this from python)? I have so far succeeded in getting 3 entry-widgets and a button in a window, but they are all next to each other where I need them one below the other (I need about 25 fields in all, for MySQL updates). I have tried the Tkinter info on www.python.org and also looked at http://www.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter.pdf, but that does not help me further than making the widgets do crazy things. I have ordered books about this, but they take a while before they get here and I would like to get along a little in the mean time. (I know, patience is a virtue. ;) Thanks in advance, Paul -- Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. -Oscar Wilde http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] gkrellm on top
Hi, I have gkrellm set to monitor my email. However, it has an annoying habit of automatically opening the kmail window even if it finds no new mail. I think it opens the kmail window every time it checks. Anyone else have this problem? Also, I like to have gkrellm running and I would like to know if there is setting to keep it on top. tia, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
On Saturday 15 February 2003 04:32 am, Robert Wideman wrote: I'd tend to reckon because MDK is being designed and marketed as a desktop distro instead of a server distro - hence the emphasis on desktop stuff and not on dev stuff or server security stuff...but that's on my eyeballs... True. But there are still some security measures that you would want to be able to take. Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be servers. Rob I'm not positive this has not changed, but in the past, there are points given to different programs and based on what type of install you chose and what sort of packages you selected and how much hard drive space you have, during the install stage the installer then selects programs for you as basic install expecting (in the expert install anyway) you to either just go with what it installs and have you install what ever programs you want after, or to just use what ever is there. I think the logic has something also to do with if this program requires some advanced knowledge (something beyond click mouse and play) then whomever is going to need to use it should also be capable of downloading and installing it. Also when installing, one of my complaints like this, is that, if you toggle to flat durring the package selection (so that the packages are listed alphabetically instead of by group) there seems to me to be many more programs available. and they are not listed six times each (once as a kde desktop app, once as a Gnome app, once as other desktops app and then also as mulitmedia etc). but it does require a knowledge of what most of the programs are, and I believe there is a possiblity of installing conflicting programs this way, or at least screwing up the programs you selected by de-selecting some part of one program to get a conflicting package installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Konqueror Java question
Hi I have still a minor problem in Konqueror as I dont see javascript in it I have KDE 3.1 MDK 9.0 one example www.mamboserver.com (a nice CMS) They have menu on top of the page (under the logo) made with javascript I see it without any problems in Mozilla (1.1), but do not in Konqueror. I have enabled Javascript and Java on Konqueror settings. Also the path to java is correct ( /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/bin/java ) So can anybody advise what I need to check to get javascripts work in Konqueror. I had the problem already on KDE 3.0.x so upgrade has nothing to do. Kristjan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
On Saturday 15 February 2003 04:32 am, Robert Wideman wrote: I'd tend to reckon because MDK is being designed and marketed as a desktop distro instead of a server distro - hence the emphasis on desktop stuff and not on dev stuff or server security stuff...but that's on my eyeballs... True. But there are still some security measures that you would want to be able to take. Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be servers. Rob Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be serversdo you consider this a good thing? or a secure thing? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Opera v. M$
On Saturday 15 February 2003 06:32, Robert Wideman wrote: Don't you love it? No lawsuits, no bitching, this is what i call doing things gracefully. This is how the industry should work. It's a petty that not a lot of companies can afford this kind of luxury against MS. No lawsuits YET You spoke too soon, wait till MS knows about this thread. Rob Well, yeah, there's the possibility that MS, being absolutely unable to make such quality moves, will fall back to their disgusting practices, but when i said doing things gracefully i was talking about Opera Software, not MS. I don't expect anything from those. :oP Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like Edit textfile.txt (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 PNY GeForce4 MX 440-SE
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:38 pm, John S. Chalice wrote: Hey there.. I just upgraded my video card to a new PNY PCI GeForce4 MX 440-SE, from my previous of a Radeon 7000. Unfortunately, I am still having a problem getting XWindows to work for Mandrake 9.0. I tried installing the I32 nVidia driver rpm binaries (both the GLX and the kernel) for Mandrake from nVidia's site.. I also tried making the drivers from the .tar.gz source files as well, *and* I tried playing with some of the options in the XF86Config-4 file.. but I still couldn't get the GUI to show up. It doesn't lock up the keyboard, but I can't see anything but a black screen. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for your time. -- John Chalice a.k.a. crysaliq If it's an AGP card, you have to add a certain option to the XF86Config-4 file. Under Option DPMS On, add: Option NvAGP 1 HTH, John Drouhard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another fluxbox/ROX convert: [was] This is personal!
On 14 Feb 2003 21:24:37 -0500 Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/bin/bash xscreensaver -no-splash bsetbg -f /home/terry/Photos/uploads/IMG_0464.JPG rox --left=PANEL --pinboard=PIN This will startup xscreensaver, set a desktop background and invoke the ROX-filer. The options for rox include a left side panel (where I dock frequently used application icons) and a 'pinboard'. The latter allows you to place icons anywhere on your desktop. I've got a few frequently-accessed directory icons on the pinboard just above the bottom-center fluxbox toolbar. Simple, but effective. There is an issue with passing the commands to the fluxbox root menu (rt button) through the pinboard but there's a patch and some workarounds. Write if you have questions. Terry Hi Terry, I have been using Fluxbox for more than a year now, and stepped over to rox about 3 months back. Works great, but there are some issues with Rox and Fluxbox that mabe you can answer? With the Rox --pinboard=PIN, I have great icons, handy too, but when I send a window to the back (3rd mouse-click on the title bar), it jumps to behind everything, including the rox background, and is nowhere to be seen till the background is clicked somewhere and everything that was hidded springs forward. I hope this explains what I mean, and it's total greek to you ;-) Do you know a solution to this, I mean more along the lines ofa solution to keep windows infront of the backdrop? Second question is this: With the backdrop enabled, I can access my fluxbox menu's, but nothing works at all. I set the send backdrop mouse clicks to windowmanager (or whatever), and can access the menu, but nothing works at all. Solution is patch you talk about, wbut what is this patch for, rox or fluxbox, and where could I find it? 3rd queston (and the last), my startup script doesn't work here. Is that maybe because I'm starting with gdm, or do I have to add a particular line to .fluxbox/init ? Many thanks Ralph -- http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror Java question
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:26:11 -0600 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 February 2003 09:51 am, Kristjan wrote: Hi I have still a minor problem in Konqueror as I dont see javascript in it I have KDE 3.1 MDK 9.0 one example www.mamboserver.com (a nice CMS) They have menu on top of the page (under the logo) made with javascript I see it without any problems in Mozilla (1.1), but do not in Konqueror. I have enabled Javascript and Java on Konqueror settings. Also the path to java is correct ( /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/bin/java ) So can anybody advise what I need to check to get javascripts work in Konqueror. I had the problem already on KDE 3.0.x so upgrade has nothing to do. Kristjan Kristjan, in the konqueror settingsconfigure konqueror, do you see the icon labeled java and Java script on the right of the window? If so click on that and you will see a tab that says javascript. Open that tab and see if the enable javascript globally is checked. It should be, but you never know. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Jep, it is checked. Kristjan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Konqueror crashes on exit
Below is the debugging log when I exit out of konqueror. I am guessing that there is a bad lib somewhere and or a bad link or call, can anyone with more savvy than I have, tell which files I should maybe reinstall or edit? snip the no debugging symbols found (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #0 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x411ae340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #2 0x40f79a73 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x4064606d in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 TIA for any suggestions. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for good Mandrake SENDMAIL HOWTO
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 12:32:31AM -0600, Robert Wideman wrote: Good. But it does mean I'm going to have to reconfigure. Reconfigureyour in Linux dude. I know that! I've been in Linux for years now, statrting sith Slackware; have drifted through Turbo, Redhat, SuSE, now Mandrake. I'd like to switch my internet gateway from SuSE to Mandrake, and have to configure the masquerading, domain-name server, and email before I can risk putting it on the net with Mandrake so that I don't lose incoming email. I just wish the route was shorter. You will have to configure most of anything you do. If your looking for an easy email server.there isnt one. I used to be happy with smail, until it started relaying other people's spam. -- hendrik. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
I'm trying to mount a Sony TRV340E video camera via USB. I'm not worried about video (my hardware isn't realy up to anyway) but I would like to be able to get at the stills in the memory chip. The USB modules seem to be working fine: lsmod gives usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] A directory, /mnt/memory_card, has been created, so it's obviously seeing something there. But there's nothing showing in the directory, and nothing seems to have been mounted. mount -l gives /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) # I know, it's embarrassing! So presumably I need to mount something manually, but which device? USB doesn't seem to work the same way as ordinary devices. I've tried googling around this, but the pages that come up just confuse me even more. Anyone want to help out the eternal newbie? Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lovin' KDE 3.1
On Saturday 15 February 2003 15:44, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 02:09 pm, Gil Katz wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 04:58, Miark wrote: Anne Jordan, I downloaded the RPMs from the following location to a single folder: http://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/di st ri butions/mandrake/9.0/KDE-3.1/ Then in runlevel 3 from within that folder I did a urpmi ./*.rpm and that was it. When I started KDE, not only did everything work, but it kept all my bookmarks and settings. It was the epitome of effortless. Miark On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:07:39 + Jordan Elver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 10:45 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 10:41 pm, Miark wrote: I gotta report that I just installed Texstar's KDE 3.1 on my MDK 9.0 box and I just love it. The look is beautiful with alpha-blending, the new Keramik theme, and new icons; and I really dig tabbed browsing in Konq. Another nail in M$'s coffin, I think. How easy is this install for a newbie, Miark? I'd be interested too. I downloaded the rpms and then lost my nerve :) -- Jordan Elver The office is like an army, and I'm the field general. You're my footsoldiers and customer quality is the WAR!!! -- David Brent (The Office) I run urpmi ./*.rpm on the rpm from texstar and got Installation failed: libarts == 1.1.0-1tex is needed by arts-1.1.0-1tex kdelibs == 3.1-3tex is needed by kdelibs-devel-3.1-3tex libarts == 1.1.0-1tex is needed by libarts-devel-1.1.0-1tex Why? G I did this and got Installation failed. Some files are missing. You may want to update your urpmi database. I'm running the 9.0 download edition. MtnMan Ok i succeeded in upgrading to KDE 3.1 i did what the README file said and walla KDE 3.1 but i have one big problem my Desktop is empty and when ever i try to create shortcut on the Desktop i get Couldn't start process Unable to create io-slave: Too many open files and when i try to start konqueror it crash. Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
robin wrote: I'm trying to mount a Sony TRV340E video camera via USB. I'm not worried about video (my hardware isn't realy up to anyway) but I would like to be able to get at the stills in the memory chip. The USB modules seem to be working fine: lsmod gives usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] A directory, /mnt/memory_card, has been created, so it's obviously seeing something there. But there's nothing showing in the directory, and nothing seems to have been mounted. mount -l gives /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) # I know, it's embarrassing! So presumably I need to mount something manually, but which device? USB doesn't seem to work the same way as ordinary devices. I've tried googling around this, but the pages that come up just confuse me even more. Anyone want to help out the eternal newbie? Sir Robin So what your trying to do is mount the camera as a mass storage device, with something like this in fstab, /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 mount -a Mkdir /mnt/camera then maybe an icon on desktop rightmouseclick down to create new cdrom device, etc. the above is not supermount, not sure you can with a camera. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:41:26 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to mount a Sony TRV340E video camera via USB. I'm not worried about video (my hardware isn't realy up to anyway) but I would like to be able to get at the stills in the memory chip. The USB modules seem to be working fine: lsmod gives usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] A directory, /mnt/memory_card, has been created, so it's obviously seeing something there. But there's nothing showing in the directory, and nothing seems to have been mounted. mount -l gives /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) # I know, it's embarrassing! So presumably I need to mount something manually, but which device? USB doesn't seem to work the same way as ordinary devices. I've tried googling around this, but the pages that come up just confuse me even more. Anyone want to help out the eternal newbie? Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin you may need to modprobe usb-storage (i have to for my digital camera since the memory card on it is seen as usb mass storage device). I don't know much about digital video cameras so i'm not sure if that's how it'll be recognized. also look in mandrake control center's hardware / hardware list and see if you can see it listed there (possibly under other/unknown) and see if there's any info about it. then you need to find out what the /dev entry is (i don't remember for the life of me where i've seen how and haven't added hardware in so long i forgot) Anyone? how DO you know what /dev entry hardware uses? not sure what kind of filesystem it'd use but i'd venture a guess that it's vfat if it's a mass storage device that windoze reads. now for my camera i'd (as root) mkdir /mnt/camera modprobe usb-storage mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera not sure if that's what you'll need to do, but it's a place to start HTH jerry. -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tkinter widget layout question
In reply to Paul's mail, d.d. Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:37:07 +0100: Is there someone here who can point me to a resource that tells me how to lay out widgets in Tkinter (using this from python)? It's me again. Let it be, I stumbled over something called the .grid() function which sort of does wat I need. Paul -- Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. -Oscar Wilde http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Chat a la Roger Wilco
Is there a voice chat prog for Linux like unto Roger Wilco? I don't care about public hosting and all that jazz. I just want to chat with one person over the Net. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
Jerry Barton wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:41:26 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to mount a Sony TRV340E video camera via USB. I'm not worried about video (my hardware isn't realy up to anyway) but I would like to be able to get at the stills in the memory chip. The USB modules seem to be working fine: lsmod gives usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] A directory, /mnt/memory_card, has been created, so it's obviously seeing something there. But there's nothing showing in the directory, and nothing seems to have been mounted. mount -l gives /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) # I know, it's embarrassing! So presumably I need to mount something manually, but which device? USB doesn't seem to work the same way as ordinary devices. I've tried googling around this, but the pages that come up just confuse me even more. Anyone want to help out the eternal newbie? Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin you may need to modprobe usb-storage (i have to for my digital camera since the memory card on it is seen as usb mass storage device). I don't know much about digital video cameras so i'm not sure if that's how it'll be recognized. also look in mandrake control center's hardware / hardware list and see if you can see it listed there (possibly under other/unknown) and see if there's any info about it. then you need to find out what the /dev entry is (i don't remember for the life of me where i've seen how and haven't added hardware in so long i forgot) Anyone? how DO you know what /dev entry hardware uses? not sure what kind of filesystem it'd use but i'd venture a guess that it's vfat if it's a mass storage device that windoze reads. now for my camera i'd (as root) mkdir /mnt/camera modprobe usb-storage mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera Mounting with -t vfat doesn't work (mount: wrong fs type, bad option, badsuperblock on /dev/sda, or too many mounted file systems) and -t auto sulks and asks me to specify the file type (same result as when I tried John's solution). It ain't msdos either - any ideas? Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kmail external editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Viestissä Lauantai 15. Helmikuuta 2003 18:21, et kirjoitti: On Saturday 15 February 2003 05:48 am, tuija wrote: I would like to use emacs at Kmail external editor, but what would be right path to do so? I have tried to write Kmail setup external editor line: emacs /home/user/Mail/inbox/cur or emacs /home/user/Mail/inbox/tmp but neither ones are not good choiches. Or is it impossible to use emacs in Kmail integrated such way as one can integrate favorite editor in Mutt? in kmail client (the one you read mail from) window, settings, configure Kmail, Composer, box about the bottom of the text, click on check box that says use external editor instead of composer and fill in the box, I ain't sure where emac is but I would hazard a guess it might be /usr/bin/emacs then apply and ok are at the bottom of the window. Thanks emacs shows up, but if I try to reply some message emacs doesn't go to inbox in that particular message. Emacs shows plain new window? I would like to integrate emacs in to Kmail same as I can integrate it to Mutt, when I write muttrc editor=emacs. Is it possible? Thanks advance Tuija -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+TpFt7MvybWBkvx4RAmDhAJ0SZDAOe/i8DdQuJmlggTq5yFirMACePPqv BZC8sMWUKR5/CEAU50OTvAY= =fSfw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compiling lame
Gosh! I thought I spoke English hmmm, he's from Texas that might=20 explain THAT! ;-) Actually, Tom's from Texas, I'm in Sunnyvale, CA. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Chat a la Roger Wilco
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:59:43 -0500 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a voice chat prog for Linux like unto Roger Wilco? I don't care about public hosting and all that jazz. I just want to chat with one person over the Net. Miark gnomemeeting http://www.gnomemeeting.org/ -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
Hi All, Due to the high volume of mail, I rarely read every post. I pick the ones I think might interest me and go from there. I happened to stumble onto this post as well as some of the earlier ones dealing with Iraq. Although I do not support everything the Government does (I doubt anyone can say that about any Government). I will say that I support President Bush in his efforts to weed out terrorism and those who sponsor it. Iraq happens to be a huge sponsor (those who would disagree are delusional). Iraq has broken, what was it now - 17 - different UN decisions. Oil may play a part but there are many other parts to consider, Terrorism being the top (Slavery was only part of the issues in the Revolutionary war yet I learned in school that that was all it was about. Wars are not that simple.). If Iraq refuses to comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many Americans, he has my support. Russ - Original Message - On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:22 am, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 13:46, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 15 February 2003 01:29 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: snip No such thing as protection that can't be broken. /snip Correct, Stephen. The governments break their own constitutions on a daily basis. Kaj Haulrich. My ex-country - for a prime example... For all that they've portrayed in the media and to the American public, they've finally stated that it's oil after all. They've already made contracts and promises to natural resource companies, promises to Russia about maintaining oil contracts and honouring old contracts - it's done. It doesn't matter who says what, they're going in, they're going to take what they want, and that's that. So much for democracy - and it's really sad that the US public doesn't know the reality of what's going on, the reality of Afghanistan, and the reality of who their government is composed of. The war in Iraq may not be WW3, but it's going to start it. If the rest of the world starts to condemn the US - and the rest of the world bands together, then what power does the US have any more? I wonder if it will get to that point... ...sorry for rambling on...just really saddened by the current trend in the US for companies to rule the nation instead of the people ruling the nation... Gosh, Australia ain't so bad after all... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
On Saturday 15 February 2003 11:41 am, robin wrote: I'm trying to mount a Sony TRV340E video camera via USB. I'm not worried about video (my hardware isn't realy up to anyway) but I would like to be able to get at the stills in the memory chip. The USB modules seem to be working fine: lsmod gives usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] A directory, /mnt/memory_card, has been created, so it's obviously seeing something there. But there's nothing showing in the directory, and nothing seems to have been mounted. mount -l gives /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) # I know, it's embarrassing! So presumably I need to mount something manually, but which device? USB doesn't seem to work the same way as ordinary devices. I've tried googling around this, but the pages that come up just confuse me even more. Anyone want to help out the eternal newbie? Sir Robin I lost track, did you try installing and calling gqcam from a console to see if the video cam would come up there? That is a long shot so what I would look at first is harddrake and see what your cam shows up as. It might show up in the unknown other location. That is where my web cam and flash card reader showup. If you see something there take not of the /dev/xxx and then from console do a mount of that device. If you don't see it try a mount /dev/video and see what happens. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Update database
I thought I had set up a cron job (using webmin) to update the database every night. Indeed, I thought I had seen indication that it had run, but today I have seen slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old How can I find what went wrong? Could it be that I have set it as a user and it needs to be root? This is to update locate's database, not the RPM database. Do you know this? To update RPM's database run rpm --rebuilddb, rpm --initdb to create a new database. Just making sure you know which one your updating. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE3.1 for MD = 8.1?
Will there ever be a KDE3.1 version released for 8.x? Get the src files and rebuild them. Rob Even guys that started of with 9.0 now have to be club members to get kde3.1. This is a sad development. I see Mandrake more and more slip away from being a free os distributor. I understand they have difficulties so I payed for a regular membership myself for 2 years in a row now. You get very little with this. But more and more the regular users are left out. This is very sad I find. I starts to stink for $s. Yes, i see this happening more myself. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sendmail question person, look at this, OT Thread
I see some ppl n the list setup mail servers in their home... Whats the reason for that? Mostly convenience, at least for me. I have DSL and I like the idea of mail coming directly to (and from) my box, as well as news, although maintaining the latter is a bit iffy from time to time. Even when I didn't have DSL, I was in a domain where I could get email sent right to my system - via UUCP or via dialup SMTP. For most every- thing now, I use my dsl email address and all the mail goes right here. I have a backup pop (fetchmail) but mostly only spam gets sent there :(. FemmeFatale Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Lovin' KDE 3.1
we are not going to read anything from RW that is using so many caps. so there. PPPPpppthst. I am just trying to get others to understand that the link that i send should not be used. Which it seems noone, maybe a very few, are not actually using it. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Tkinter widget layout question
I have ordered books about this, but they take a while before they get here and I would like to get along a little in the mean time. (I know, patience is a virtue. ;) Instead of waiting on them i usually go to BN store or something and read them till i get them. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be serversdo you consider this a good thing? or a secure thing? M$ knows nothing about security. I dont even think its in their dictionary. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror crashes on exit
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:31, Dennis Myers wrote: Below is the debugging log when I exit out of konqueror. I am guessing that there is a bad lib somewhere and or a bad link or call, can anyone with more savvy than I have, tell which files I should maybe reinstall or edit? snip the no debugging symbols found (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #0 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x411ae340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #2 0x40f79a73 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x4064606d in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 TIA for any suggestions. Are you by any chance using the nvidia drivers? I only ask because the last time I tried the nvidia drivers I got the same debugging output with all KDE apps crashing on me whilst in fluxbox/blackbox/etc - after installing the nvidia drivers I was unable to log into Gnome or KDE. Hence, I don't use the nvidia drivers with the enterprise kernel. My problem is something to do with the enterprise kernel (lost of RAM) because I have a separate mdk 9.0 installation on same machine with standard kernel and no problems there. I note that /lib/i686/libc.so.6 and /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 belong to glibc-2.2.5-16mdk - I wouldn't think you would need to reinstall that. AFAIK, there have not been any glibc updates (excluding Cooker of course). I guess you could try: # rpm -Uvh --force kde3.1_packages if you're confident that there were no conflicts when you first installed the kde3.1 packages. If this isn't so, you may end up breaking your system. Sorry that I'm not much help. I recognise the output but don't understand what it means. Hopefully someone else can help out. Sharrea -- You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. -- Dean Martin -- Mandrake Linux 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
are many other parts to consider, Terrorism being the top (Slavery was only part of the issues in the Revolutionary war yet I learned in school that Slavery an issue of the Revolutionary War? Where did *you* go to school? :) Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] choosing a new hostname
I'm just a desktop user running MDK 9 but I would like to change the hostname that appears by default. [cyberhades@localhost cyberhades]$ Is it possible and easy ? hostname new-hostname will do it until you reboot. If youw ant to change it for good edit /etc/sysconfig/network. Then just service network restart. I have done this many times and it works fine. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Looking for good Mandrake SENDMAIL HOWTO
I just wish the route was shorter. Totally understand that one. I used to be happy with smail, until it started relaying other people's spam. Wow, that sux. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
If Iraq refuses to comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many Americans, he has my support. Nuc IRAQ, NUC Iraq, Nuc IRAQ. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Chat a la Roger Wilco
Okay, I found exactly what I was looking for: gphone. Two people specify each other's IP address, and your then connected by voice, with controls for mic and speaker levels. Perfect. Miark On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:59:43 -0500 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a voice chat prog for Linux like unto Roger Wilco? I don't care about public hosting and all that jazz. I just want to chat with one person over the Net. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] choosing a new hostname
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 13:18, Josenildo Marques wrote: Hi List ! I'm just a desktop user running MDK 9 but I would like to change the hostname that appears by default. [cyberhades@localhost cyberhades]$ Is it possible and easy ? Thanks in advance. Easiest way is done by hand. Edit the /etc/hosts file - and change the hostname there; here is what mine looks like: # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 kma1.kma.com.au kma1localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.1 kma1.kma.com.au -- Sun, 16 Feb 2003 07:40:00 +1100 7:40am up 14:30, 4 users, load average: 1.29, 0.42, 0.66 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- A comment on schedules: Ok, how long will it take? For each manager involved in initial meetings add one month. For each manager who says data flow analysis add another month. For each unique end-user type add one month. For each unknown software package to be employed add two months. For each unknown hardware device add two months. For each 100 miles between developer and installation add one month. For each type of communication channel add one month. If an IBM mainframe shop is involved and you are working on a non-IBM system add 6 months. If an IBM mainframe shop is involved and you are working on an IBM system add 9 months. Round up to the nearest half-year. --Brad Sherman By the way, ALL software projects are done by iterative prototyping. Some companies call their prototypes releases, that's all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing wm with gnome2
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 01:47, Jerry Barton wrote: OOPS... wasn't sure if my first message went through. fiddled with it a bit, took out the sleep command so it was just killall -9 metacity; exec sawfish and it worked. she reports the same. reason i did it: it'd kill metacity but i think it just started it right back up again (screen flashed, waited 10 sec then gave me that message about only running one wm at a time) so, solved. thanks again Stephen :D rhonda reports hers worked too when she removed sleep. Jerry Everything works when you remove sleep. (g) I actually just had to rename /usr/bin/metacity and /usr/bin/sawfish to get it working on another machine - strange - but true... ...just really sucks that even with Gnome2.2 you still can't just out and out change the WM... But then again, I've drifted so far away from Gnome that it's going to take a bloody miracle for me to use it as my choice WM again...sadly, the lack of customisation and lack of ease of menu editing has literally caused that project to go backward in very large steps...but I won't ramble on about that...(at least here) -- Sun, 16 Feb 2003 07:40:00 +1100 7:40am up 14:30, 4 users, load average: 1.29, 0.42, 0.66 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- A comment on schedules: Ok, how long will it take? For each manager involved in initial meetings add one month. For each manager who says data flow analysis add another month. For each unique end-user type add one month. For each unknown software package to be employed add two months. For each unknown hardware device add two months. For each 100 miles between developer and installation add one month. For each type of communication channel add one month. If an IBM mainframe shop is involved and you are working on a non-IBM system add 6 months. If an IBM mainframe shop is involved and you are working on an IBM system add 9 months. Round up to the nearest half-year. --Brad Sherman By the way, ALL software projects are done by iterative prototyping. Some companies call their prototypes releases, that's all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gkrellm on top
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 02:37, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I have gkrellm set to monitor my email. However, it has an annoying habit of automatically opening the kmail window even if it finds no new mail. I think it opens the kmail window every time it checks. Anyone else have this problem? Also, I like to have gkrellm running and I would like to know if there is setting to keep it on top. tia, Bill W. The Kmail issue should be easily resolved by going into the configuration of gKrellm (right click, configuration, etc etc) - have it check the mail, but not to run a command when mail arrives (or when clicked on). Keeping it on top is another issue - that depends on the WM you're using. If you're using KDE, you should be able to right-click the icon/name in the taskbar and choose SHOW ON ALL DESKTOPS (or something similar - I'm in Fluxbox now and don't want to kill all my processes) -- Sun, 16 Feb 2003 07:50:00 +1100 7:50am up 14:40, 4 users, load average: 0.48, 0.20, 0.39 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Trouble strikes in series of threes, but when working around the house the next job after a series of three is not the fourth job -- it's the start of a brand new series of three. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 02:53, et wrote: On Saturday 15 February 2003 04:32 am, Robert Wideman wrote: I'd tend to reckon because MDK is being designed and marketed as a desktop distro instead of a server distro - hence the emphasis on desktop stuff and not on dev stuff or server security stuff...but that's on my eyeballs... True. But there are still some security measures that you would want to be able to take. Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be servers. Rob Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be serversdo you consider this a good thing? or a secure thing? M$ did this for web sharing and the likes - and to give workstations the ability to have/host their own stuff - but overall, given the record and design of IIS, I don't think it's a good thing at all - it's like a carrot dangling in front of their users. A bad carrot. A rotting nasty carrot that might LOOK good but carries with it way too many problems and tastes bad in the end. Imagine (as I've already witnessed) a bug aimed at IIS, and it penetrates a corporate environment where you have mostly NT 4.0 workstations and Win2k workstations and many of them have the IIS crap not only turned ON (or installed) but are being used by the employees for testing and for other silly things (aside from the fact that they're all sharing drives and the likes) - and in comes the bug, and whammo! Each and every one of them is down down down down - and their segment on the network is so saturated that their cable has to be yanked from the FDDI - then you have to go through each and every machine and not just turn off IIS, but clean the damn thing to boot, and then take away administrative privileges for all the users (explaining to departments heads as to why every few minutes)... Not a nice picture - and I've had to be faced with it more than five times already...(MCI in Richardson, TX was a nightmare network environment - they still have token-ring in some areas, BTW) -- Sun, 16 Feb 2003 07:55:01 +1100 7:55am up 14:45, 4 users, load average: 0.72, 0.22, 0.32 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- We don't claim Interactive EasyFlow is good for anything -- if you think it is, great, but it's up to you to decide. If Interactive EasyFlow doesn't work: tough. If you lose a million because Interactive EasyFlow messes up, it's you that's out the million, not us. If you don't like this disclaimer: tough. We reserve the right to do the absolute minimum provided by law, up to and including nothing. This is basically the same disclaimer that comes with all software packages, but ours is in plain English and theirs is in legalese. We didn't really want to include any disclaimer at all, but our lawyers insisted. We tried to ignore them but they threatened us with the attack shark at which point we relented. -- Haven Tree Software Limited, Interactive EasyFlow Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
robin wrote: Jerry Barton wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:41:26 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to mount a Sony TRV340E video camera via USB. I'm not worried about video (my hardware isn't realy up to anyway) but I would like to be able to get at the stills in the memory chip. The USB modules seem to be working fine: lsmod gives usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] A directory, /mnt/memory_card, has been created, so it's obviously seeing something there. But there's nothing showing in the directory, and nothing seems to have been mounted. mount -l gives /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) # I know, it's embarrassing! So presumably I need to mount something manually, but which device? USB doesn't seem to work the same way as ordinary devices. I've tried googling around this, but the pages that come up just confuse me even more. Anyone want to help out the eternal newbie? Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin you may need to modprobe usb-storage (i have to for my digital camera since the memory card on it is seen as usb mass storage device). I don't know much about digital video cameras so i'm not sure if that's how it'll be recognized. also look in mandrake control center's hardware / hardware list and see if you can see it listed there (possibly under other/unknown) and see if there's any info about it. then you need to find out what the /dev entry is (i don't remember for the life of me where i've seen how and haven't added hardware in so long i forgot) Anyone? how DO you know what /dev entry hardware uses? not sure what kind of filesystem it'd use but i'd venture a guess that it's vfat if it's a mass storage device that windoze reads. now for my camera i'd (as root) mkdir /mnt/camera modprobe usb-storage mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera Mounting with -t vfat doesn't work (mount: wrong fs type, bad option, badsuperblock on /dev/sda, or too many mounted file systems) and -t auto sulks and asks me to specify the file type (same result as when I tried John's solution). It ain't msdos either - any ideas? Sir Robin Is this a relatively new camera ? -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compiling lame
On Saturday February 15 2003 01:22 pm, David E. Fox wrote: Gosh! I thought I spoke English hmmm, he's from Texas that might=20 explain THAT! ;-) Actually, Tom's from Texas, I'm in Sunnyvale, CA. :) Actually I was raised in Atlanta, GA. I've just lived in TX for 30 years. Came here in my mid 20's after a coupl'a years in Alaska, I doubt I'll ever leave. Ya got'a have soul to live in The Republic of Texas ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 07:12, Robert Wideman wrote: Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be serversdo you consider this a good thing? or a secure thing? M$ knows nothing about security. I dont even think its in their dictionary. Rob When NT was first in beta it was very closely matched to OS/2 - who's security model was based on UNIX. As NT and M$ moved further away from the original plan with IBM on OS/2 and NT, they're entire mentality about security went that route. Nothing they promised 10 years ago has come to fruition - but I almost believe this is by design as when one looks at the big picture, they'd not be able to constantly sell updates and upgrades. If they had a great product in NT 3.51 or NT 4.0, would anyone want to upgrade? If their security was absolute tops in NT 4.0, who would purchase Win2k? They're a company that aims for profit - innovation in technology is NOT their concern. Sophisticated technologies have been bought and buried many times over because of the mighty profit. Ditto for computer technology - with the exception of CPU technology. The day that M$ gets serious about security is the day that they're in the same boat that IBM is in now. Give 'em 10 years. When no one wants M$ products anymore and they're using something else, M$ will stand up and repeat the same IBM steps. -- Sun, 16 Feb 2003 08:25:01 +1100 8:25am up 15:15, 4 users, load average: 0.99, 0.36, 0.23 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Real programmers don't draw flowcharts. Flowcharts are, after all, the illiterate's form of documentation. Cavemen drew flowcharts; look how much good it did them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 07:22, Robert Wideman wrote: If Iraq refuses to comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many Americans, he has my support. Nuc IRAQ, NUC Iraq, Nuc IRAQ. Rob If the world weren't so dependent on fossil fuels, then we'd not have terrorism, we'd not have the Middle East issue, we'd not have most of the social unrest...the list goes on... -- Sun, 16 Feb 2003 08:30:00 +1100 8:30am up 15:20, 4 users, load average: 0.43, 0.27, 0.21 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The co-locator cannot verify the frame-relay gateway to the ISDN server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
If Iraq refuses to comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many Americans, he has my support. Russ It has been said by politicians on both sides of the atlantic that bush and blair will go to war even without UN supportHang On, one reason we are having to use military might is because Iraq does not comply wih the UN but then we will ignore the UN so as to go to war with Iraq for the exact same reasons. This is getting complicated. Another thing, when is america going to compensate the families of those who died in the terrorist attacks in england at the hands of the IRA which america supported, funded and supplied military weapons to for decades??? Andrew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
Please fill me in. What support did the U.S. government provide to the IRA? Not disputing it, but this is the first I've heard of government support to the IRA. Individual Irish ex-patriates in the U.S., yes, but not government support. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Scotchmer Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 15:41hrs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand If Iraq refuses to comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many Americans, he has my support. Russ It has been said by politicians on both sides of the atlantic that bush and blair will go to war even without UN supportHang On, one reason we are having to use military might is because Iraq does not comply wih the UN but then we will ignore the UN so as to go to war with Iraq for the exact same reasons. This is getting complicated. Another thing, when is america going to compensate the families of those who died in the terrorist attacks in england at the hands of the IRA which america supported, funded and supplied military weapons to for decades??? Andrew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
Did you mean the Civil War, by any chance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Russ Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 13:43hrs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand Hi All, Due to the high volume of mail, I rarely read every post. I pick the ones I think might interest me and go from there. I happened to stumble onto this post as well as some of the earlier ones dealing with Iraq. Although I do not support everything the Government does (I doubt anyone can say that about any Government). I will say that I support President Bush in his efforts to weed out terrorism and those who sponsor it. Iraq happens to be a huge sponsor (those who would disagree are delusional). Iraq has broken, what was it now - 17 - different UN decisions. Oil may play a part but there are many other parts to consider, Terrorism being the top (Slavery was only part of the issues in the Revolutionary war yet I learned in school that that was all it was about. Wars are not that simple.). If Iraq refuses to comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many Americans, he has my support. Russ - Original Message - On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:22 am, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 13:46, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 15 February 2003 01:29 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: snip No such thing as protection that can't be broken. /snip Correct, Stephen. The governments break their own constitutions on a daily basis. Kaj Haulrich. My ex-country - for a prime example... For all that they've portrayed in the media and to the American public, they've finally stated that it's oil after all. They've already made contracts and promises to natural resource companies, promises to Russia about maintaining oil contracts and honouring old contracts - it's done. It doesn't matter who says what, they're going in, they're going to take what they want, and that's that. So much for democracy - and it's really sad that the US public doesn't know the reality of what's going on, the reality of Afghanistan, and the reality of who their government is composed of. The war in Iraq may not be WW3, but it's going to start it. If the rest of the world starts to condemn the US - and the rest of the world bands together, then what power does the US have any more? I wonder if it will get to that point... ...sorry for rambling on...just really saddened by the current trend in the US for companies to rule the nation instead of the people ruling the nation... Gosh, Australia ain't so bad after all... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Update database
On Saturday 15 Feb 2003 8:02 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: I thought I had set up a cron job (using webmin) to update the database every night. Indeed, I thought I had seen indication that it had run, but today I have seen slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old How can I find what went wrong? Could it be that I have set it as a user and it needs to be root? This is to update locate's database, not the RPM database. Do you know this? To update RPM's database run rpm --rebuilddb, rpm --initdb to create a new database. Just making sure you know which one your updating. I'm running updatedb - is this not right? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] compiling lame
Actually I was raised in Atlanta, GA. I've just lived in TX for 30 years. Came here in my mid 20's after a coupl'a years in Alaska, I doubt I'll ever leave. Ya got'a have soul to live in The Republic of Texas ;) GO GO GO the Lone Star State. Rob Austin, TX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ARTICLE: Parting letter from resigning MS hood
Interesting - shows a bit of what M$ is about, where they came from and where they're going...(might stir up some feelings) http://www.synthesist.net/writing/onleavingms.html -- Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:20:00 +1100 9:20am up 16:10, 3 users, load average: 0.41, 0.14, 0.10 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Mulder: Scully... I never saw you as a mother before. The X-Files: Home Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
Another thing, when is america going to compensate the families of those who died in the terrorist attacks in england at the hands of the IRA which america supported, funded and supplied military weapons to for decades??? When is Germany and the Axis powers from WWII going to compensate the entire world for what they did? Might want to think about that one first. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Update database
I'm running updatedb - is this not right? What are you trying to update? RPM or the locate command DB? From the man page of updatedb: updatedb - update the slocate database The slocate DB is not the same. They have entirely 2 different jobs and functions. locate uses the DB created by updatedb, which is just a small DB of all files on the entire system at the time updatedb was ran. rpm --rebuilddb rebuilds the DB for the RPM's that are installed and everything that is included in rpm files. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror crashes on exit
On Saturday 15 February 2003 03:28 pm, Sharrea wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:31, Dennis Myers wrote: Below is the debugging log when I exit out of konqueror. I am guessing that there is a bad lib somewhere and or a bad link or call, can anyone with more savvy than I have, tell which files I should maybe reinstall or edit? snip the no debugging symbols found (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #0 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x411ae340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #2 0x40f79a73 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x4064606d in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 TIA for any suggestions. Dennis, just noticed in Texstar's forum that other people have been having probs with konq. Texstar has updated kdebase-3.1-6 on 12/02/03 - when did you download your kde3.1 packages? Perhaps downloading the latest might help? Sharrea Thanks, I d/l'd from the Mandrake Club site about a week ago. I will try replacing my kdebase with texstar's and see what happens. Let you know. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
On Saturday 15 February 2003 04:50 pm, Glenn wrote: Please fill me in. What support did the U.S. government provide to the IRA? Not disputing it, but this is the first I've heard of government support to the IRA. Individual Irish ex-patriates in the U.S., yes, but not government support. he,,, I would like to take this oppertunity to invite all discussions not relating to GNU-Linux and the Mandrake Distrubition to the new MANDRAKE-OT list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compiling lame now going OT
On Saturday 15 February 2003 03:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday February 15 2003 01:22 pm, David E. Fox wrote: Gosh! I thought I spoke English hmmm, he's from Texas that might=20 explain THAT! ;-) Actually, Tom's from Texas, I'm in Sunnyvale, CA. :) Actually I was raised in Atlanta, GA. I've just lived in TX for 30 years. Came here in my mid 20's after a coupl'a years in Alaska, I doubt I'll ever leave. Ya got'a have soul to live in The Republic of Texas ;) I just got done shoveling 6inches of snow with 2 ft drifts (snow blower is in the shop) and come to the conclusion that you have to have a screw loose to live in Nebraska. : p -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
John Richard Smith wrote: robin wrote: Jerry Barton wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:41:26 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to mount a Sony TRV340E video camera via USB. I'm not worried about video (my hardware isn't realy up to anyway) but I would like to be able to get at the stills in the memory chip. The USB modules seem to be working fine: lsmod gives usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] A directory, /mnt/memory_card, has been created, so it's obviously seeing something there. But there's nothing showing in the directory, and nothing seems to have been mounted. mount -l gives /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) # I know, it's embarrassing! So presumably I need to mount something manually, but which device? USB doesn't seem to work the same way as ordinary devices. I've tried googling around this, but the pages that come up just confuse me even more. Anyone want to help out the eternal newbie? Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin you may need to modprobe usb-storage (i have to for my digital camera since the memory card on it is seen as usb mass storage device). I don't know much about digital video cameras so i'm not sure if that's how it'll be recognized. also look in mandrake control center's hardware / hardware list and see if you can see it listed there (possibly under other/unknown) and see if there's any info about it. then you need to find out what the /dev entry is (i don't remember for the life of me where i've seen how and haven't added hardware in so long i forgot) Anyone? how DO you know what /dev entry hardware uses? not sure what kind of filesystem it'd use but i'd venture a guess that it's vfat if it's a mass storage device that windoze reads. now for my camera i'd (as root) mkdir /mnt/camera modprobe usb-storage mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera Mounting with -t vfat doesn't work (mount: wrong fs type, bad option, badsuperblock on /dev/sda, or too many mounted file systems) and -t auto sulks and asks me to specify the file type (same result as when I tried John's solution). It ain't msdos either - any ideas? Sir Robin Is this a relatively new camera ? About a year old. I know people have got it working under Linux via firewire; it's USB that's tricky. Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] New OS new problems
Help Downloaded ISO's and burned the disks for MDK 9.0. Installed the system. Applied all the Mandrake supplied updates and security patches. Currently running KDE 3.05a on the desktop. It all seems to work. A little poking even got it to find my old printer and my old scanner. My new camera is another matter, but I'll not quibble. Problems: 1. How does one get the aRTs sound server and Realplayer to live together in the same room? Realplayer won't play until I shut down the aRTs server. Then, Realplayer coughs out the BBC and Radio Netherlands quite nicely. Except ... 2. Everytime I click an audio link in a browser window (doesn't seem to matter which one I use ... Konqueror, Galeon, Netscape, Mozilla, or Opera) the browser opens a blank window with the audio URL (*.ram) in the location bar and only then passes the URL to the Realaudio AP. Why this extra blank window? 3. Why does KDE insist that Konqueror must be my default browser? I really like Galeon browser better and would prefer that it was the default for both web, and file browsing, and email calls. Is there anyway to set this up? Nahhh... I don't wanna use Gnome on the desk top ... I like the rest of KDE better ... Just the browser is sorta sucky. 4. If I try to change my video settings using the Mandrake control panel, it hangs the whole system. However, if I run XFdrake from a command line (as root) everything goes hunky-dori. 5. Same sort of thing seems to happen with the Printerdrake. Thanks a bunch Harv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another possibly dumb USB question
Sharrea wrote: I would think that to use vfat you would have to make the mountpoint on a partition that is formatted vfat. not true. one of many beauties of linux and unix is that you can mount just anything any where, as long as you have drivers set up for what you are mounting. unlike oos, linux and unix are 'channeling systems'. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror crashes on exit
On Saturday 15 February 2003 03:28 pm, Sharrea wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:31, Dennis Myers wrote: Below is the debugging log when I exit out of konqueror. I am guessing that there is a bad lib somewhere and or a bad link or call, can anyone with more savvy than I have, tell which files I should maybe reinstall or edit? snip the no debugging symbols found (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #0 0x41131739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x411ae340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #2 0x40f79a73 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x4064606d in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 TIA for any suggestions. Dennis, just noticed in Texstar's forum that other people have been having probs with konq. Texstar has updated kdebase-3.1-6 on 12/02/03 - when did you download your kde3.1 packages? Perhaps downloading the latest might help? Sharrea So, I d/l'd all the texstar kde rpms into a folder and in console did a urpmi *.rpm and then after they installed did a rpm --rebuilddb and rebooted. All is well so far. Konqueror no longer crashes. My grey-aqua them is back and none of my mail settings were lost. The desk top looks normal again. Thanks for the lead Sharrea. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New OS new problems
Problems: 1. How does one get the aRTs sound server and Realplayer to live together in the same room? Realplayer won't play until I shut down the aRTs server. Then, Realplayer coughs out the BBC and Radio Netherlands quite nicely. Except ... Launch RealPlayer with the soundwrapper, with this command: soundwrapper realplay 2. Everytime I click an audio link in a browser window (doesn't seem to matter which one I use ... Konqueror, Galeon, Netscape, Mozilla, or Opera) the browser opens a blank window with the audio URL (*.ram) in the location bar and only then passes the URL to the Realaudio AP. Why this extra blank window? ..? never happened to me. Which webpage are you visiting? 3. Why does KDE insist that Konqueror must be my default browser? I really like Galeon browser better and would prefer that it was the default for both web, and file browsing, and email calls. Is there anyway to set this up? Nahhh... I don't wanna use Gnome on the desk top ... I like the rest of KDE better ... Just the browser is sorta sucky. KDE insists that konq is the default, because konq is the integrated browser withing KDE. To set Galeon as default, go to KDE's control center (kcontrol) navigate to file associations, and link text/html files to galeon. Simple. Galeon for file browsing??! well.. umm. ok. 4. If I try to change my video settings using the Mandrake control panel, it hangs the whole system. However, if I run XFdrake from a command line (as root) everything goes hunky-dori. You need to be a little more specific. which video settings? what video card do you use? how do you reproduce the crash? 5. Same sort of thing seems to happen with the Printerdrake. ..same sort of info we need for this one, too. Thanks a bunch HTH Harv Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like Edit textfile.txt (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE3.1 totally messed up
Looks like I managed to mess up the system good. With the texstar KDE rpms I can shut down konqueror ok, but I can no longer access my cdrom devices. The system freezes if I try to bring up /mnt. So looks like it's time to do a california wipe out. I will look first and make sure that I don't have the old kde files in conflict with the new. But that should not be the case. Bummed. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Logitech 3000 questions?
Okay, I got a Logitech 3000 webcam now and I'd like to use it. :-) USBview shows it, as soons as I plug it in. Its listed in /proc/bus/usb/devices. KDE Center shows it in info, and here is my loaded modules: Module Size Used byTainted: P c-qcam 8056 0 (unused) parport23936 0 [c-qcam] floppy 49340 0 sr_mod 15096 0 (autoclean) sg 31276 0 (autoclean) pwc41416 0 (unused) ppp_deflate41024 0 (autoclean) bsd_comp4344 0 (autoclean) agpgart31840 3 (autoclean) joydev 5632 0 adi 6232 0 (unused) gameport1660 0 [adi] snd-seq-midi3680 0 (autoclean) (unused) snd-opl3-synth 9860 0 (autoclean) (unused) snd-seq-instr 4816 0 (autoclean) [snd-opl3-synth] snd-seq-midi-emul 4880 0 (autoclean) [snd-opl3-synth] snd-ainstr-fm 1780 0 (autoclean) [snd-opl3-synth] snd-seq-oss26176 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3208 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss] snd-seq33264 2 [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi-emul snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss36932 0 snd-mixer-oss 9016 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-cmipci 15660 0 snd-pcm55808 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-cmipci] snd-mpu401-uart 2752 0 [snd-cmipci] snd-rawmidi12864 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-mpu401-uart] snd-opl3-lib5764 0 [snd-opl3-synth snd-cmipci] snd-timer 9964 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib] snd-seq-device 3836 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi snd-opl3-lib] snd-hwdep 3840 0 [snd-opl3-lib] snd24804 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-opl3-synth snd-seq-instr snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cmipci snd-pcm snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-opl3-lib snd-timer snd-seq-device snd-hwdep] nfsd 66576 8 (autoclean) lockd 46480 1 (autoclean) [nfsd] sunrpc 60188 1 (autoclean) [nfsd lockd] ppp_async 7456 1 ppp_generic20064 3 [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async] slhc5072 1 [ppp_generic] af_packet 13000 0 (autoclean) tulip 40800 1 (autoclean) iforce 9832 0 (unused) serio 1132 0 [iforce] keybdev 1920 0 (unused) mousedev4116 1 hid18340 0 (unused) printer 6944 0 usbmouse2004 0 (unused) input 3456 0 [joydev adi iforce keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse] ide-cd 28712 0 cdrom 26848 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] tuner 9536 1 (autoclean) tvaudio12156 0 (autoclean) (unused) msp340015148 1 (autoclean) bttv 66880 0 i2c-algo-bit7432 1 [bttv] i2c-core 15332 0 [tuner tvaudio msp3400 bttv i2c-algo-bit] soundcore 3780 0 [snd bttv] videodev5792 4 [c-qcam pwc bttv] ide-scsi8212 0 NVdriver 1065920 10 usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [pwc iforce hid printer usbmouse usb-uhci] rtc 6560 0 (autoclean) reiserfs 169776 4 sd_mod 11612 0 (unused) aic7xxx 120604 0 scsi_mod 91140 5 [sr_mod sg ide-scsi sd_mod aic7xxx] It looks like the modules that are needed are there: bttv cqcam pwc usb However, when I try gqcam it says, /dev/video is a directory. So...I renamed it to /dev/video.old and linked /dev/video0 and /dev/video. Gqcam then actually runs, but no picture. If I try to pick a diff. video from the drop down menu - it locks up. Anyone got the Logitech 3000 actually working? If so, how 'bout sending me some tip/sources (I've already done googlized it, and been to several web sites as well as searching the archives). Thanks in advance! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.1 totally messed up
On Sunday 16 February 2003 05:23, Dennis Myers wrote: Looks like I managed to mess up the system good. With the texstar KDE rpms I can shut down konqueror ok, but I can no longer access my cdrom devices. The system freezes if I try to bring up /mnt. So looks like it's time to do a california wipe out. I will look first and make sure that I don't have the old kde files in conflict with the new. But that should not be the case. Bummed. Umm.. before you do anything.. see if you can browse /mnt from another environment... fluxbox? Gnome? Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like Edit textfile.txt (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
Hi All, Just got back from out of town. I was in a hurry when I wrote my first email this morning and yes I did mean Civil War (boy is my face red). More comments below: - Original Message - there are many other parts to consider, Terrorism being the top (Slavery was only part of the issues in the Revolutionary war yet I learned in school that that was all it was about. Wars are not that simple.). Why terrorism? Is that just something like comunism or evil that you can tack on something you don't like? (Russ) It was terrorism that murdered several innocent American lives, that is why. Note we went after military targets when we retaliated. - If Iraq refuses to comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many Americans, he has my support. Nice expression helping hand like bathroom for toilet or so. You could also say killing hundreds of thousands. (Russ) We have given them plenty of oportunities to comply. They chose not to. Also, I was unaware that Iraq had hundreds of thousands of military personel. Thats got to be one grand army. --- The point is not that Saddham is an bad guy - because he is. But he cannot do anything now. (Russ)-- We are makeing sure of that. You just cannot go around and point a finger at somebody and kill him. Every country did something wrong and the US is by far not the least among those, but you behave like you are free of guilt. Isn't there something in a book about pointing and throwing and such? (Russ)- I think Powell did a good job of presenting our case before the UN. I think I stated from the beginning that our Government was not perfect. Me thinks you are misapplying that statement from The Book and besides, it condones the death penalty. -- Are we allowd to attack you if you attack Iraq without UN support? (Russ)- That is up to you. I hope you don't mind if we stick up for our own interests though, like we are doing for terrorism. --- What really interests me is: Does the american PEOPLE (in percents of the total population please) support war? With UN resolution? Or even without and thus violating UN law themselves... (Russ)-- Yes, seems to me I heard the poll numbers like this (don't quote me though) - 80% with UN approval, 60% without. Because NO population of any country in Europe does. (well I am not totally sure about Britain). What I have read so far is that about 80% of the people in western Europe are against US war on Iraq, about 70% in eastern Europe. In turkey it is something like 93%! (Russ)--- To each his own. Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand
I missed most of this thread but read it with interest. The interest is because of the lack of point. The point is whether there is ultimately absolute right and wrong or just different opinions. Islam especially radical Islam holds that killing others is an obligation if they refuse to accept their religon. They have a goal and are ready to use what ever means. The choice is to call their way an opinion or evil. I choose the evil label based on the Judeo/christian concept of good and evil. With real evil giving in only increases its strength. The UN is made up of a host of nations who are not democracies and many of whom support Jihad. The UN has not proven itself a bastion of freedom and democracy. Sometime read the Arab press and you will get a clear idea who the enemy is. I don't live in the US but if the United States relays on the UN and doesn't do what it needs to there may be no country at all. I wish The Americans and Pres. Bush the strength to do whats right because the opinion of Jihad (Muslim holy war) is indeed the end of western Civilization as we know it. am Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
