Re: [newbie] Another fonts question

2004-01-14 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:17 pm, many eyes noted that John Richard Smith wrote:
 Open a pic and click the T and all will become evident, text colour,
  fonts installed etc..
 
 Charlie.
   

 OK, Charlie,
 I found that one yesterday. see snapshot 278.png

 It's good, but has one drawback, you have but 9 fixed choices of
 position for the text.

 Knowing gimp to be the app it is, I'm sure todds layer method ought to
 work with more flexibility of text positioning ?

 John

That's right John. However if you position the text in the actual frame, move 
it left, right, give it several gaps at the top, bottom or whatever. It 
doesn't need to start from left to right, it can be moved in the frame where 
you want.

So use one of the standard positions as supplied, then move the text within 
the box from that place, as stated above and do with it what you will, and it 
will start where you place it through the position and incrementally move 
wherever you want, one letter gaps at a time, over the whole area.

I have used center from the choice, and then moved the text into the middle of 
the screen and down a few lines, as you see as an example.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 02:34, Doug Roberts wrote:
  On Friday 09 January 2004 19:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
   Any other ideas? Anyone?
 
  Shot in the dark -
 
  Have you checked the aRts settings from kde's control center? 
  You should have aRts start at bootup, running soundserver with
  realtime priority, but reduct the value in 'autosuspend if idle'
  to 1 sec.  I did find that some things worked better for this -
  presumably forcing it to let go when otherwise it would hang on.
 
  Of course it may be a red herring, but anything's worth a try at
  this stage.
 
  Anne
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 HI again

 Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
 busy.

 When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
 center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
 error message when trying to apply the new settings.

 Something like this:

 Error while initializing sound driver.

 device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
 directory)

 The sound server will continue, using the null output device

 I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
 chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
 play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
 atm..I'll play with that one later.
 I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
 default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
 installed at all.

That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by kde-related 
apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while xmms is, I 
believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?

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Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem

2004-01-14 Thread John Richard Smith
S Wieland wrote:

I think I did an uh-oh. I removed my rom drives (1 cdr, 1 dvd) from my 
mandrake 9.1, dell dimension 8100 to put into my new computer, and put 
an old cdrom from a OLD 233 pentium II into the dell/linux box. I 
didnt do any remove hardware thingy in linux nor was the box ON when i 
did it. At first it booted fine, maybe the first 2-3 boots and i never 
tried to test the cd-rom. After a few more days and 1 or 2 more boots 
i would get a cannot find secondary disk drive strike F1 to continue ( 
i have 2 hdd in the linux box). no problem to me because i havent 
gotten far enough to use the second disk ( i think :-/). To keep this 
long and boring story short I am now wanting to install mandrake 9.2 
or Mandrake Move (any suggestions onto which one?)  but my cd rom is 
not detected in the bios. I was thinking that it was a connection 
issue so i opened it up and all the proper cables are in the proper 
areas. This leading me to believe it may be a bad cable. Ive come up 
to two conclusions. 1. putting back the original roms and original 
cable or 2. maybe there is a floppy boot disk i can use that will 
enable a driver for the cdrom.
Any help or hey everybody lets point and laugh at the kid withhis 
pants down would be greatly aprreciated
thanks a billion
-boardrider


Welcome to Mandrake,
I don't think you have a driver problem.
The rom drive must be recognised in bios.
What is your IDE cable setup ?
Do you have two IDE cables, are Hardrives on one roms on the other ?
Do you have just the one IDE cable ?
I would suggest that you examine your replacement cdrom dive and make 
sure that you have them configured master and slave as appropiate, you 
cannot have two drives on the same cable both set up master or both set 
up slave. The bios will not like it.

So first off you have got to sort out bios recognition of your rom and 
hard drives.
my cd rom is not detected in the bios must be addressed first.

John

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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 01:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 January 2004 02:34, Doug Roberts wrote:
   On Friday 09 January 2004 19:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
Any other ideas? Anyone?
  
   Shot in the dark -
  
   Have you checked the aRts settings from kde's control center? 
   You should have aRts start at bootup, running soundserver with
   realtime priority, but reduct the value in 'autosuspend if idle'
   to 1 sec.  I did find that some things worked better for this -
   presumably forcing it to let go when otherwise it would hang on.
  
   Of course it may be a red herring, but anything's worth a try at
   this stage.
  
   Anne
   --
   Registered Linux User No.293302
   Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
 
  HI again
 
  Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
  busy.
 
  When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
  center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
  error message when trying to apply the new settings.
 
  Something like this:
 
  Error while initializing sound driver.
 
  device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
  directory)
 
  The sound server will continue, using the null output device
 
  I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
  chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
  play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
  atm..I'll play with that one later.
  I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
  default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
  installed at all.
 
 That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by kde-related 
 apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while xmms is, I 
 believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?
I assume that you have the CD player plugins for xmms enabled?
 
 Anne


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Re: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 10:59 pm, Frank Bax wrote:

 /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
 BrowseInterval 0
 Browsing Off

Should have some additional lines:
LogLevel Info
TempDir /var/spool/cups/tmp
Port 631
Browsing On
#(You need to turn browsing on if you want the autodetect stuff to work on 
#other networked sysstems.  Your choice.)
BrowseAddress @LOCAL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] broadcasts to all non point to point interfaces, so your lan but not 
#your dial up connection.
BrowseDeny All
BrowseAllow 127.0.0.1
BrowseAllow @LOCAL
#This denies browsing for all but localhost and local interfaces.
BrowseOrder deny,allow
Location /
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From @LOCAL
/Location

Location /admin
#
# You definitely will want to limit access to the administration functions.
# The default configuration requires a local connection from a user who
# is a member of the system group to do any admin tasks.  You can change
# the group name using the SystemGroup directive.
#

AuthType Basic
AuthClass System

## Restrict access to local domain
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1

#Encryption Required
/Location

Can you try adding these lines and then restart cupsd and try to add a printer 
again, see if it works, if not, check the error/access log with the new log 
level set to see if you get additional error messages.
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:40 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 so should we get this email...

After the recent discussion concerning anti-spam measures, I got to thinking 
that I might have figured out why the Mandrake mailing-list server was 
dropping my emails when they originated from my postfix system and then got 
relayed through the ISP.  It appears that I correctly figured out why.  If 
you check the full mail headers, you will see that that message originated 
from my Postfix system.  That is the first time I have been able to get a 
mail message through when it originated from my Postfix system.

Short answer, you should have gotten that email but I didn't expect it to go 
through.

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Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:50 pm, S Wieland wrote:
 but my cd rom is not detected in the
 bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up
 and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. 

You might want to doublecheck the jumpers.  If they are set to cable select, 
you may need to explicitly set them to master instead.  That has helped me 
with similar issues in the past.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 - Cannot setup printer - works!

2004-01-14 Thread Frank Bax
At 06:59 AM 1/14/04, Bryan Phinney wrote:

On Tuesday 13 January 2004 10:59 pm, Frank Bax wrote:

 /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
 BrowseInterval 0
 Browsing Off
Should have some additional lines:
LogLevel Info
TempDir /var/spool/cups/tmp
Port 631
Browsing On
#(You need to turn browsing on if you want the autodetect stuff to work on
#other networked sysstems.  Your choice.)
BrowseAddress @LOCAL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] broadcasts to all non point to point interfaces, so your lan but not
#your dial up connection.
BrowseDeny All
BrowseAllow 127.0.0.1
BrowseAllow @LOCAL
#This denies browsing for all but localhost and local interfaces.
BrowseOrder deny,allow
Location /
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From @LOCAL
/Location
Location /admin
#
# You definitely will want to limit access to the administration functions.
# The default configuration requires a local connection from a user who
# is a member of the system group to do any admin tasks.  You can change
# the group name using the SystemGroup directive.
#
AuthType Basic
AuthClass System
## Restrict access to local domain
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
#Encryption Required
/Location
Can you try adding these lines and then restart cupsd and try to add a 
printer
again, see if it works, if not, check the error/access log with the new log
level set to see if you get additional error messages.
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Thanks Bryan!  I am able to add printers again.  This looks like one of 
those cases where one says That was easy when the solution is presented, 
getting there is the hard part.


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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread jason pearl
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:03:26 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:40 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 so should we get this email...

After the recent discussion concerning anti-spam measures, I got to
thinking that I might have figured out why the Mandrake mailing-list
server was dropping my emails when they originated from my postfix
system and then got relayed through the ISP.  It appears that I
correctly figured out why.  If you check the full mail headers, you
will see that that message originated from my Postfix system.  That is
the first time I have been able to get a mail message through when it
originated from my Postfix system.

Short answer, you should have gotten that email but I didn't expect it
to go through.

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do you have to pay to use that domain name to get it through.. is your
port 25 blocked??? 


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Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem

2004-01-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 04:09, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Tuesday 13 January 2004 11:50 pm, S Wieland wrote:
  but my cd rom is not detected in the
  bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up
  and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. 
 
 You might want to doublecheck the jumpers.  If they are set to cable select, 
 you may need to explicitly set them to master instead.  That has helped me 
 with similar issues in the past.
Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything?


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Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:43 am, Aron Smith wrote:

 Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything?

Funny you bring that up.  I used to be a disinclined to EVER use CS for any 
drive, until I ran into some problems with my western digital drives on my 
raid controller on my SOYO MB.  Their recommendation is to use CS for all 
Western Digital Hard drives on my motherboard.  Turns out, it actually does 
work better too.  Go figure.

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:32 am, jason pearl wrote:

 do you have to pay to use that domain name to get it through.. is your
 port 25 blocked???

No.  My port 25 IS blocked, at least for outgoing traffic on port 25  So, I 
have to smarthost my mail through my ISP, basically, Postfix relays all 
outgoing external mail through the ISP's mail server using smtpauth to 
transmit.  Internal mail (for bphinney.homelinux.org) is routed internally 
through my mail server.

So family members using my servers can communicate internally amongst 
ourselves and outgoing mail gets routed through one more hop than it would 
normally.

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[newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab

2004-01-14 Thread Angus Auld
Greetings, I have just installed my new CDRW in my Dell running 
Mandrake 9.1.

I am unsure how to properly configure my /etc/fstab to enable 
mounting this device.
I have automount disabled, and when I try mounting my cdrom 
device I get the following error:
mount: only root can mount /dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom

Mandrake recognizes the CDRW on boot, and I am able to listen 
to music cd's, but can't mount a data cd.

I will attach a copy of my /etc/fstab. I would sure appreciate some 
pointers here.

TIA's. Regards.

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Re: [newbie] CDRW install, need help w/fstab

2004-01-14 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 14:39, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings, I have just installed my new CDRW in my Dell running
 Mandrake 9.1.

 I am unsure how to properly configure my /etc/fstab to enable
 mounting this device.
 I have automount disabled, and when I try mounting my cdrom
 device I get the following error:
 mount: only root can mount /dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom

 Mandrake recognizes the CDRW on boot, and I am able to listen
 to music cd's, but can't mount a data cd.

 I will attach a copy of my /etc/fstab. I would sure appreciate
 some pointers here.

 TIA's. Regards.

 --Angus


Angus, not sure this will help, but my CD-W works flawlessly with 
this line (all on one line, of course) :

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Doug Roberts
   ** snip**
   HI again
  
   Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
   busy.
  
   When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
   center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
   error message when trying to apply the new settings.
  
   Something like this:
  
   Error while initializing sound driver.
  
   device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
   directory)
  
   The sound server will continue, using the null output device
  
   I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
   chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
   play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
   atm..I'll play with that one later.
   I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
   default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
   installed at all.
  
  That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by kde-related 
  apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while xmms is, I 
  believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?
 I assume that you have the CD player plugins for xmms enabled?

Not sure Aron. Where would I check for that and how?

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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Doug Roberts
 On Wednesday 14 January 2004 02:34, Doug Roberts wrote:
   On Friday 09 January 2004 19:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
Any other ideas? Anyone?
  
   Shot in the dark -
  
   Have you checked the aRts settings from kde's control center?
   You should have aRts start at bootup, running soundserver with
   realtime priority, but reduct the value in 'autosuspend if idle'
   to 1 sec.  I did find that some things worked better for this -
   presumably forcing it to let go when otherwise it would hang on.
  
   Of course it may be a red herring, but anything's worth a try at
   this stage.
  
   Anne
   --
   Registered Linux User No.293302
   Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
 
  HI again
 
  Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
  busy.
 
  When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
  center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
  error message when trying to apply the new settings.
 
  Something like this:
 
  Error while initializing sound driver.
 
  device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
  directory)
 
  The sound server will continue, using the null output device
 
  I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
  chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
  play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
  atm..I'll play with that one later.
  I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
  default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
  installed at all.
 
 That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by kde-related
 apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while xmms is, I
 believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?

 Anne
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I am beginning to think that I may have to reinstall aRTs, or is there some
way to get KDE to re-recognize that aRTs is installed?  Just not sure how to
go about either at the moment.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 3:40 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
  On Wednesday 14 January 2004 02:34, Doug Roberts wrote:
On Friday 09 January 2004 19:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
 Any other ideas? Anyone?
   
Shot in the dark -
   
Have you checked the aRts settings from kde's control center?
You should have aRts start at bootup, running soundserver with
realtime priority, but reduct the value in 'autosuspend if idle'
to 1 sec.  I did find that some things worked better for this -
presumably forcing it to let go when otherwise it would hang on.
   
Of course it may be a red herring, but anything's worth a try at
this stage.
   
Anne
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Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
  
   HI again
  
   Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
   busy.
  
   When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
   center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
   error message when trying to apply the new settings.
  
   Something like this:
  
   Error while initializing sound driver.
  
   device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
   directory)
  
   The sound server will continue, using the null output device
  
   I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
   chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
   play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
   atm..I'll play with that one later.
   I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
   default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
   installed at all.
 
  That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by kde-related
  apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while xmms is, I
  believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?
 
  Anne
  --
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  Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?

 I am beginning to think that I may have to reinstall aRTs, or is there some
 way to get KDE to re-recognize that aRTs is installed?  Just not sure how
 to go about either at the moment.

 Doug Roberts

I am coming awfully late into this thread, but has anyone suggested to Doug 
installing the Alsa driver yet? The Yamaha OPL3 is supported by Alsa 
according to 
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php3?vendor=vendor-Yamaha#matrix

To install the Alsa driver

1/ Install the alsa-utils, alsamixergui, and newt packages (If not already 
installed)

2/ Make a backup copy of /etc/modules.conf

3/ In a root terminal run alsaconf
Alsaconf will write a new modules.conf file with the correct settings for your 
sound card.

4/ Copy back by hand those lines in the old modules.conf which are not sound 
related.

5/ Reboot into the new sound driver, and in KDEControlCentreSoundSoundSystem 
set the sound server to Alsa

6/ Use alsamixergui to select default sound levels and save them.

7/ In xmms it may work better if you select the Output Plugin to be alsa.


If it does not work replace the alsaconf generated lines in modules.conf with 
the ones from your backup.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 07:37, Doug Roberts wrote:
** snip**
HI again
   
Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
busy.
   
When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
error message when trying to apply the new settings.
   
Something like this:
   
Error while initializing sound driver.
   
device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
directory)
   
The sound server will continue, using the null output device
   
I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
atm..I'll play with that one later.
I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
installed at all.
   
   That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by kde-related 
   apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while xmms is, I 
   believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?
  I assume that you have the CD player plugins for xmms enabled?
 
 Not sure Aron. Where would I check for that and how?
Start XMMS -options (click on top left corner, drop down list
appars)
select visulations
select visualiation -plugins
select  Audio I/O plugins
CD Audio player should be enabled
if not configure it and enable it
 
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[newbie] Running programs at startup

2004-01-14 Thread Warren Post
I am trying to understand the different ways that programs can be run at
startup. What has sparked my interest is that I am experimenting with
different windows managers, yet I would like some basic things (xmms,
xscreensaver, gkrellm, etc.) to be launched upon entry into any window
manager. Yet aside from getting specific answers to specific questions,
I'm hoping to understand the big picture here. So here's what I
understand so far, gleaned from this list's archive. Please help me
correct my misconceptions and patch my ignorance:

/etc/profile
Runs a program upon login of any user, any WM, in or out of X. I have,
for example, xmms here so that xmms starts up regardless of user, which
is what I want. It tries and fails to launch xmms even if the user is
logging in to a console, so I should move this to a file that executes
programs only if logging in under X. Is there such a file? If not, is
there a way I can condition the launching of xmms (or any program that
requires X) upon X being running?

/etc/rc.local (- /etc/rc.d/rc.local)
Said to do the same as /etc/profile, but I can't get it to work, nor do
I understand when one would use this vs. /etc/profile.

~/.xinitrc
Runs a program upon a particular user starting X. Only works if you
login at a console and then start X manually.

~/.bashrc
Runs a program every time a particular user opens a terminal, assuming
he uses bash.

~/.bash_profile
Runs a program upon login of a particular user, any WM, in or out of X.
I haven't mastered this yet as sometimes it works and sometimes it
doesn't. As with /etc/profile, I'd like to find a way to condition the
launching of a program that requires X upon X being running.

And of course many WMs have their own ways of launching programs on
startup, such a placing things in ~/Desktop/Autostart. I'm not
considering them here because for the moment I am looking for
WM-independent ways to launch programs.

So... what else is there to know about running programs at startup?
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Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem

2004-01-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 06:12, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:43 am, Aron Smith wrote:
 
  Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything?
 
 Funny you bring that up.  I used to be a disinclined to EVER use CS for any 
 drive, until I ran into some problems with my western digital drives on my 
 raid controller on my SOYO MB.  Their recommendation is to use CS for all 
 Western Digital Hard drives on my motherboard.  Turns out, it actually does 
 work better too.  Go figure.
verrry interesting


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Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem

2004-01-14 Thread Ian Trickett
Set the CD jumper to cable select and try again

Ian
- Original Message -
From: S Wieland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:50 PM
Subject: [newbie] Cdrom problem


 I think I did an uh-oh. I removed my rom drives (1 cdr, 1 dvd) from my
 mandrake 9.1, dell dimension 8100 to put into my new computer, and put
 an old cdrom from a OLD 233 pentium II into the dell/linux box. I didnt
 do any remove hardware thingy in linux nor was the box ON when i did it.
 At first it booted fine, maybe the first 2-3 boots and i never tried to
 test the cd-rom. After a few more days and 1 or 2 more boots i would get
 a cannot find secondary disk drive strike F1 to continue ( i have 2 hdd
 in the linux box). no problem to me because i havent gotten far enough
 to use the second disk ( i think :-/). To keep this long and boring
 story short I am now wanting to install mandrake 9.2 or Mandrake Move
 (any suggestions onto which one?)  but my cd rom is not detected in the
 bios. I was thinking that it was a connection issue so i opened it up
 and all the proper cables are in the proper areas. This leading me to
 believe it may be a bad cable. Ive come up to two conclusions. 1.
 putting back the original roms and original cable or 2. maybe there is a
 floppy boot disk i can use that will enable a driver for the cdrom.
 Any help or hey everybody lets point and laugh at the kid withhis pants
 down would be greatly aprreciated
 thanks a billion
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Re: [newbie] Cdrom problem

2004-01-14 Thread Poogle
On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 14:12, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:43 am, Aron Smith wrote:
  Cable Select? ..has that position ever worked for anything?

 Funny you bring that up.  I used to be a disinclined to EVER use CS for any
 drive, until I ran into some problems with my western digital drives on my
 raid controller on my SOYO MB.  Their recommendation is to use CS for all
 Western Digital Hard drives on my motherboard.  Turns out, it actually does
 work better too.  Go figure.

I recently came across this too, my local retailer said always use CS with 80 
pin IDE cable, I noted until and disregarded it as I don't have any 80 pins.
This link  http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf_CS.htm seems to support 
the argument though
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Re: [newbie] Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Doug Roberts
 On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 3:40 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
   On Wednesday 14 January 2004 02:34, Doug Roberts wrote:
 On Friday 09 January 2004 19:07, Doug Roberts wrote:
  Any other ideas? Anyone?

 Shot in the dark -

 Have you checked the aRts settings from kde's control center?
 You should have aRts start at bootup, running soundserver with
 realtime priority, but reduct the value in 'autosuspend if idle'
 to 1 sec.  I did find that some things worked better for this -
 presumably forcing it to let go when otherwise it would hang on.

 Of course it may be a red herring, but anything's worth a try at
 this stage.

 Anne
 --
 Registered Linux User No.293302
 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
   
HI again
   
Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
busy.
   
When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
error message when trying to apply the new settings.
   
Something like this:
   
Error while initializing sound driver.
   
device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
directory)
   
The sound server will continue, using the null output device
   
I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
atm..I'll play with that one later.
I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
installed at all.
  
   That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by kde-related
   apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while xmms is, I
   believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?
  
   Anne
   --
   Registered Linux User No.293302
   Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
 
  I am beginning to think that I may have to reinstall aRTs, or is there
some
  way to get KDE to re-recognize that aRTs is installed?  Just not sure
how
  to go about either at the moment.
 
  Doug Roberts

 I am coming awfully late into this thread, but has anyone suggested to
Doug
 installing the Alsa driver yet? The Yamaha OPL3 is supported by Alsa
 according to

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php3?vendor=vendor-Yamaha#matrix

 To install the Alsa driver

 1/ Install the alsa-utils, alsamixergui, and newt packages (If not already
 installed)

Did that..MCC and urpmi says that all those packages are installed..


 2/ Make a backup copy of /etc/modules.conf

 3/ In a root terminal run alsaconf
 Alsaconf will write a new modules.conf file with the correct settings for
your
 sound card.

Cannot do thiskeeps saying that 'command not found' (yes I am in root
mode when doing all this)


 4/ Copy back by hand those lines in the old modules.conf which are not
sound
 related.

 5/ Reboot into the new sound driver, and in
KDEControlCentreSoundSoundSystem
 set the sound server to Alsa

In Sound I/O tab  Sound I/O method Alsa is selected.


 6/ Use alsamixergui to select default sound levels and save them.

error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or
directory


 7/ In xmms it may work better if you select the Output Plugin to be alsa.
Did that..Xmms still don't like my CD...looks at a music CD and refuses to
read it.



 If it does not work replace the alsaconf generated lines in modules.conf
with
 the ones from your backup.

 derek

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Re: [newbie] Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 6:24 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
SNIP
  To install the Alsa driver
 
  1/ Install the alsa-utils, alsamixergui, and newt packages (If not
  already installed)

 Did that..MCC and urpmi says that all those packages are installed..


 2/ Make a backup copy of /etc/modules.conf

 3/ In a root terminal run alsaconf
 Alsaconf will write a new modules.conf file with the correct settings for
your
 sound card.

Cannot do thiskeeps saying that 'command not found' (yes I am in root
mode when doing all this)

/usr/sbin/alsaconf is in the alsa-utils package.
Try uninstalling it and reinstalling.

This is 9.2 we are talking about isn't it?

derek

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[newbie] How do I restore original URPMI.cfg settings

2004-01-14 Thread cosnet1
In an effort to get a steady and current stream of Mandrake updates for 
version 9.2 I was testing different mirrors and settings. Anyway, I got it so 
mucked up at some point that I did the wrong thing.. I did the 
urpmi.removemedia -a which of course deleted everything.. I would like to 
restore the settings that came with the first 3 cd's of the powerpack (the 
silver club download version). I am just unsure of how to do this. What were 
they named, do I need to browse to each cd.. can someone just email me the 
urpmi.cfg file out of their etc/urpmi directory that shows the original 
settings? 

There was a another newbie post earlier this week but it did not quite do the 
same thing plus it was not quite right in its instructions either.
Bruce

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Re: [newbie] Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread Doug Roberts
 On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 6:24 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
 SNIP
   To install the Alsa driver
  
   1/ Install the alsa-utils, alsamixergui, and newt packages (If not
   already installed)
 
  Did that..MCC and urpmi says that all those packages are installed..
 
 
  2/ Make a backup copy of /etc/modules.conf
 
  3/ In a root terminal run alsaconf
  Alsaconf will write a new modules.conf file with the correct settings
for
 your
  sound card.

 Cannot do thiskeeps saying that 'command not found' (yes I am in root
 mode when doing all this)

 /usr/sbin/alsaconf is in the alsa-utils package.
 Try uninstalling it and reinstalling.

 This is 9.2 we are talking about isn't it?

Nope..9.1. Is there a difference?
I have tried to find alsaconf and have not been able to find it. It just
isn't anywhere to be found.
(I hate little lost programs...)

Doug Roberts
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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: Re: Lack of sound in KDE

2004-01-14 Thread LtCdData
On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 H:31, Aron Smith wrote:
i got that 2 days ago... the problem ended up being
the line in the /etc/modules.conf file for the sound card somehow 
vanished, in my case i have a soundblaster128 card so i added
 alias sound-slot-0 es1371 
this fixed it ))

LtCdData

 On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 07:37, Doug Roberts wrote:
 ** snip**
 HI again

 Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I been a little
 busy.

 When logged in as root I looked at aRTs settings in KDE control
 center. aRTs was turned off, so I turned it back on and got this
 error message when trying to apply the new settings.

 Something like this:

 Error while initializing sound driver.

 device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or
 directory)

 The sound server will continue, using the null output device

 I left the new settings in place and rebooted to see, on the off
 chance, hoping maybe it would work. But no such luck. I can still
 play a music CD through kscd, I can't get xmms to see the CD drive
 atm..I'll play with that one later.
 I did some investigating through the aRTs controlI have no
 default.arts-env file. I am beginning to wonder if I have aRTs
 installed at all.
   
That's really puzzling.  As far as I know, aRts is used by
kde-related apps - which, I would have thought, means kscd - while
xmms is, I believe, a gnome app.  Anyone care to comment?
  
   I assume that you have the CD player plugins for xmms enabled?
 
  Not sure Aron. Where would I check for that and how?

 Start XMMS -options (click on top left corner, drop down list
 appars)
 select visulations
 select visualiation -plugins
 select  Audio I/O plugins
 CD Audio player should be enabled
 if not configure it and enable it

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RE: [newbie] Video refresh very slow (Mandrake 9.2)

2004-01-14 Thread Steven Vacca

The video adapter card was bad.  Go figure.  Anyway, thanks for the
help.

ShutEye Thinkin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video refresh very slow (Mandrake 9.2)


Steven Vacca wrote:

Mandrake 9.2
Pentium II  233MHz
64M RAM
(I know, I know, it's slow)


I have installed v9.2, but am having an issue with the refreshing of 
the monitor screen when using Konqueror.  It's very slow, so every time

I move the mouse around inside
Konqueror, the screen flashes wildly.  During the install, I installed
the driver for
the Monitor, an AOC Spectrum Glr.  

Those weren't really drivers you were choosing but nvertheless...

Should I have selected something more
generic?

Maybe...


While running Mandrake v7.2 previously, I never noticed this refresh 
problem.

Also, is there any way to not have the full pathnames show up in the 
icons on the task bar and also in the title bars of the various 
windows?



Thanks,

ShutEye Thinkin
  

I have an AOC 9glr, and mandrake always seems to use a slightly 
different vertical refresh rate setting in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 
than it should be. If you check the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log you 
might see something like this:

(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 50  V max: 150 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 95
kHz,


(WW) RADEON(0): config file vrefresh range 47-150Hz not within DDC 
vrefresh ranges.
(II) RADEON(0): monitor1: Using hsync range of 30.00-95.00 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): monitor1: Using vrefresh range of 47.00-150.00 Hz

I have never experienced the problems you are having even when my 
settings are wrong but I thought this might be something to check. If 
you see something like this you might want to change the value(s) in the

monitor section of XF86Config-4 for HorizSync or VertRefresh. Only the 
root user can edit your config-4 file (use the SU command from the 
command line before editing it or, in KDE you can type alt-f2, click 
options then choose run as another user (root) and specify your root 
password before running an editor (ie.Gedit, kate, etc)

Hope this helps.

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[newbie] gimp 2.0pre1 compilation

2004-01-14 Thread Josenildo Marques
Hello.
I'd like to compile and install the latest gimp.
Could you please give me some tips on how to do it ?

TIA

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Re: [newbie] gimp 2.0pre1 compilation

2004-01-14 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 13:30, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 Hello.
 I'd like to compile and install the latest gimp.
 Could you please give me some tips on how to do it ?
Start here http://www.gimp.org/ You can also urpmi the development
version (unstable but nice new GUI )
 
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Re: [newbie] Im excited hehe

2004-01-14 Thread Charles Ramsey
I want to thank you for recommending this WONDERFUL program.

I had reached my limit with Evolution.  Sometimes it worked, other times it did not.  
Sometimes it would crash upon execution, sometimes it wouldn't close.

Thank you again.

Charles Ramsey


On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:19:11 -0500
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 On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:28:47 -0700
 jason pearl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  all i have to say is that i am glad someone in here talked about
  sylpheed because i like it better than any other mail prog i have
  used ... even evolution.
  
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread jason pearl
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:21:19 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:32 am, jason pearl wrote:

 do you have to pay to use that domain name to get it through.. is
your port 25 blocked???

No.  My port 25 IS blocked, at least for outgoing traffic on port 25 
So, I have to smarthost my mail through my ISP, basically, Postfix
relays all outgoing external mail through the ISP's mail server using
smtpauth to transmit.  Internal mail (for bphinney.homelinux.org) is
routed internally through my mail server.

So family members using my servers can communicate internally amongst 
ourselves and outgoing mail gets routed through one more hop than it
would normally.

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Software Test Engineer

So did you have to pay extra to(im assuming homelinux is dyndns.org) get
them to reroute mail? I would rather have my own mail server then to use
cox cable.  thanks

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[newbie] Interesting Interview with RMS

2004-01-14 Thread JoeHill

Quote:

Right now the FCC in the US is considering a proposal to prohibit free software
from receiving digital video transmissions. See www.publicknowledge.org. That
would be the first ever specific prohibition on free software for a specific
job. But there are already laws which have that effect.

The US already has the DMCA and software patents. The EU already has the EUCD,
which has an effect similar to the DMCA. Additional laws, even worse, are now
being proposed.

Link:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/?http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=52297

Get out there and harrass your elected reps!

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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:28 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 So did you have to pay extra to(im assuming homelinux is dyndns.org) get
 them to reroute mail? I would rather have my own mail server then to use
 cox cable.  thanks

Depends on how much you want to depend on it.  I don't pay extra and mail that 
is bound for my dynamic domain name gets sent to my current IP address where 
my router sends it on to the mail server which is configured to accept mail 
for my dynamic domain name.  If the mail bound for my mail server is not for 
a real local user, the connection gets rejected and dropped and I get a 
notification that someone tried to relay mail through my server.

However, as someone on the expert list pointed out earlier, there is some risk 
involved in running a mail server off of a dynamic IP address.  If someone 
else that is running a mail server inherits your IP address before the 
dynamic DNS service gets the new IP and they happen to be running an SMTP 
server that is configured to accept mail for all domains regardless of where 
it is bound or who the message is to, they will intercept your mail.

I don't worry about that because the only people using my domain are family 
members and all of our mail is PGP encrypted.  Even if you intercepted some 
of the messages, you couldn't decrypt them so they would be useless to you.  
However, it is something to consider.
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Re: [newbie] Test Message

2004-01-14 Thread jason pearl
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:32:22 -0500
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday 14 January 2004 07:28 pm, jason pearl wrote:

 So did you have to pay extra to(im assuming homelinux is dyndns.org)
get them to reroute mail? I would rather have my own mail server then
to use cox cable.  thanks

Depends on how much you want to depend on it.  I don't pay extra and
mail that is bound for my dynamic domain name gets sent to my current
IP address where my router sends it on to the mail server which is
configured to accept mail for my dynamic domain name.  If the mail
bound for my mail server is not for a real local user, the connection
gets rejected and dropped and I get a notification that someone tried
to relay mail through my server.

However, as someone on the expert list pointed out earlier, there is
some risk involved in running a mail server off of a dynamic IP
address.  If someone else that is running a mail server inherits your
IP address before the dynamic DNS service gets the new IP and they
happen to be running an SMTP server that is configured to accept mail
for all domains regardless of where it is bound or who the message is
to, they will intercept your mail.

I don't worry about that because the only people using my domain are
family members and all of our mail is PGP encrypted.  Even if you
intercepted some of the messages, you couldn't decrypt them so they
would be useless to you.  However, it is something to consider.
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Software Test Engineer


Where is a good place to look on info on setting this up... i have
choices for forwarding mail or a mail reflector.. i know port 25 is
blocked by my isp. im assuming its just inbound that is blocked. I have
postfix installed but not running.

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[newbie] Windows Services For Unix--free

2004-01-14 Thread Miark
Used to be $99 and is now free. Shock of shocks.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/14/1738230

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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-14 Thread Miark
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:23 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any
  problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is
  there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS,
  I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool!
I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility.
 
 It does.  You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo 
 to the MBR if it has been overwritten.  You can then manually add boot 
 options for Windows 98, XP, etc.

I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring
all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody
confirm this?

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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-14 Thread Joe
Miark wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:23 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any
problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is
there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS,
I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool!
 I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility.
 

It does.  You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo 
to the MBR if it has been overwritten.  You can then manually add boot 
options for Windows 98, XP, etc.
   

I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring
all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody
confirm this?
Miark
 

windows entries are restored too if i remember correctly




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Re: [newbie] Another fonts question

2004-01-14 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:54 pm, using a keyboard, John Richard Smith turned 
thoughts into these words:
 So I shouldn't  select  | X | use Dynamic text  in Tool options window,
 just leave |X| Antialliasing, there is a button box market Text Tool  
 but nothing happens when I click on it. Instead I just LMC the image
 window and up comes   a different text window, works in a similar
 manner, but does not seem to have any means to change the colour of the
 font, but in anycase it doesn't seem to add font when I type it and
 click OK. So another puzzle.

When you select the tool and type in the text, it is there, but it is the same 
colour as the background, that is why you cannot see it. I have not used that 
method but a few times, and will need to investigate it.

Charlie.

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At first, but then
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Re: [newbie] Another fonts question

2004-01-14 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:54 pm, many eyes noted that John Richard Smith wrote:
 I've got as far as adding text to layer, not sure which one though, but
 I obviously don't understand how to make it move around. That's my main
 problem, though I still don't really understand how to make sure you are
 adding text to the apporpiate layer.

It seems that a text layer is created automagically, when using dynamic test, 
or that is how I use it.

On the other system, the ordinary T you bring up your graphic. Then you 
bring up a new layer on the new layer icon on the left of the layers, 
channels and paths.

Then select the font button T
Then the colour chart click on a colour that you want.
Then click on the graphic and type in what you need in the way of dialogue. 
Move it to where you want to have it placed.
Then click the Anchor icon in the layers and there you have it. 
Done.

I will send this to you with the screenshot

Charlie

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