Re: [newbie] Yaayyy!
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 02:30, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 02 February 2004 06:14 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 02 February 2004 23:48, Charlie Mahan wrote: But that's just my opinion. I'll spend money and beta test too, it's too much fun not to. g I'm with you there Charlie..I just started the 1.9G download of the 3 .iso's so, as it's gone midnight here that'll be around noon tomorrow before I'll have it all installed. That is, if the 50Kb/s download holds:) I have my doubts about the 2.6 kernel too though.the 20031217.iso wouldn't play nice on my machine either. Same symptoms you seem to be having.I gave up!:( You may want to check that and wait a few days. beta2 is due out very shortly. Thanks for that;) When I looked this morning the download had timed out just after the first image.duuuh, why does it always do that when I'm not there!:( It's fairly early in the month so I'll just wait for the beta2 I think or I'll be overdrawing my dload max for Februari. I've got CD1 so I'll be able to give at least lilo and the 2.6 kernel a testrun on my machine. As of this moment I'm burning it with gcombust.I tried k3b because everyone is so thrilled with it but I think it's clunky and user-unfriendly despite it's swell gui and it's little extra's like the auto md5sum (I'd allready done that) . Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mydoom is a spoofer
On Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:49 AM, Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rumoured to have said: Looks like Mydoom is using address spoofing, he said hopefully. bellow is part of a return I received saying my email was blocked. Never sent it, don't have MS on my server or computer and it wasn't me, so must be spoofing, right? Yes it is, and yes I've had several of those. If your address is harvested from an infected machine's address book it will be used to spoof. The bounce messages are almost as annoying as the virus IMO. Registered Linux User No.316991 --- ** Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. ** Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.574 / Virus Database: 364 - Release Date: 29/01/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problems with 160GB disk
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 16:02, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
I recently installed a Maxtor Diamond Plus 160Gb HD as hdb, MDK9.2 is on
a 40Gb hda. I partitioned hdb into three partitions, 1Gb+80Gb+80Gb.
I've had twice already the boot process stop with the message File
system inconsistency, run fsck manually. Running fsck did find and
correct litterally hundreds of errors.
Has anybody had problems with large capacity disks in MDK9.2? I'm using
an Asus P5A-B motherboard.
thanks,
raffaele
I had the same proble with may Seagate 40 gigz when I format it from
System Configuration Tools in KDE. My solution is format it from
diskdrake, but You should boot with non grafical (with no X). I used to
boot with FailSafe.
I hope it's usefull idea.
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Re: [newbie] Suggestions for an email program that can be used from Linux and WIN 2000
Thx for the replies, from Dave, Guy and Anne on this. Will look at this slowly. Of course it never fails for the first time in my life I actually bought a mail program (Increimail) a couple of months ago and not it looks like I will have to scrap it. Steve Linux user number 344404 ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02/02/04 23:24:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Suggestions for an email program that can be used from Linux and WIN 2000 On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 17:51:37 -0500 Dave Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 02 February 2004 05:01 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote: Since I am still so new to this linux environment and have not even gotten past the very simplest of things I am still using my win2K system a lot. I would like to be able to read my email from either system especially this list, and be able to see my folders from either system. Does anyone have any suggestions of an email program that I could use to do this? Not sure if this is an option for you (your ISP has to provide it), but IMAP will allow you to keep all your mail (in folders) on the server, so that you can read it from anywhere. The more common protocol, POP, usually has you downloading all your mail to your local system (though most mail systems have an option to leave a copy on the server.) Many Linux mail clients support both POP and IMAP (Evolution, Mozilla Mail and Sylpheed, among many others.) snip Mozilla Thunderbird is the obvious candidate, but to get it set up to work in both environments will take some research and tinkering. Hopefully somebody on the list has done this before. I *believe* there is documentation on how to get Thunderbird to use the same folders from both environments on the Mozilla website. hth = David Steiner www.DavidLSteiner.com Proud Linux User #262493 = -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to give up: last solution-reinstall
On Monday 02 February 2004 11:52 pm, Sourisak S. wrote: Boo! hoo! hoo!, I checked -fontpath (good), -the font fixed exist (fslsfonts gave me all the information about the font). -/etc/init.d/xfs seems to run ok. Where is the missing link? I never had this problem on other mandrake version. Please someone help me. I don't to re-install because I want to solve this problem manually so I can understand. TIA Song. PS: For reminder, I had a error at login. I can't startx. the error message was: could not open default font fixed. Do a df. That error usually means your root partition (or the partition with /tmp on it) is full, not a problem with your fonts. Basically, X can't create the temp files it needs to run. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade?
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 22:22 Subject: Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade? On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:24:41 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: problems(that is some update list). The contrib and update servers both failed to read the synthesis file so they errored out and didnt complete. Well, it's not the changes, it's all the packages and their dependencies that's in 9.2 main. Seems about right, though. I have a few questions: 1. Can I just re-do the contrib and update servers without worring about main and does it matter in what order they are done? Sure. You can say urppmi.update -a, which gets everything (but once you get main, you don't really need to update again), or urpmi.update contrib and/or update. You really should have an update branch defined. 2. Are there other servers that have this information? Yes. You might have selected the first ones available. If one doesn't work, like it errors out doing the synthesis and so forth, the biggest reason is that it could not connect to the mirror. It took me a bit of time to realize that, because it's not really clear (it does not say server full like FTP does). If you want to verify, try an ftp in another window to the update site and see if you can connect. Sometimes you can't. For instance, I usually use uninett.no and sunet.se. Those have worked pretty well for me over the past year or so. Some of the US mirrors are really slow, FWIW. If you have trouble with a specific mirror, my advice would be to urpmi.removemedia on whatever branch that mirror carries, and then run urpmi.addmedia, using a different mirror. Since you're upgrading to 9.2, most of this stuff is pretty stable (as rpm versions don't change, i.e., the changes are going in cooker). Once you have downloaded the hdlist and synthesis files for each branch successfully, now comes the interesting part = updating, that is. urpmi.update --auto-select takes care of that nicely, or should. Depending on what you're upgrading from, you could expect anywhere from 300-600 megs worth of changed files (also depending on how much you installed from the previous version). 3. I dont speak mandrake yet what is the meaning of hdlist and synthesis, I know what list means and understand synthesis, I dont think they mean what I understand. hdlist is (as I understand it) the list of files that are on the CDs in a compressed form, or actually all 3 cds if you're coming from a urpmi site. IOW the names of all rpms in the distribution. The synthesis contains, I think,the interdependencies. Which would make sense, as both comprise a database of sorts that describes Mandrake 9.2 (in this instance) and the system is resolving your database (in /var) with its data. 4. A minor problem. The applets for KPPP in KDE or Gnome dont work they I'll pass on that one since I have DSL, haven't modemed in over 3 years :). Thanks David that is helpful. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 22:40 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. Someone else suggested that maybe I was looking for kpackage. Sounds right but it's not in KDE and neither is mandrake update but it is in gnome. So I used it from gnome, however gnome has problems but I developed a system that works for updates and currently have worked through bug fixes, and normal and working on security. Frankly mandrake update needs to be more robust. It needs too much management. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) Tried both coffee calls bathroom other makes me stupid. 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Thanks for your comments it does help. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
Title: RE: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 22:40 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. Someone else suggested that maybe I was looking for kpackage. Sounds right but it's not in KDE and neither is mandrake update but it is in gnome. So I used it from gnome, however gnome has problems but I developed a system that works for updates and currently have worked through bug fixes, and normal and working on security. Frankly mandrake update needs to be more robust. It needs too much management. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) Tried both coffee calls bathroom other makes me stupid. 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Thanks for your comments it does help. Hoyt In KDE it is in kdenetwork-kpackage as I recall. It is a seperate rpm in KDE 3.1. HTH
Re: [newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 12:45, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:29:44 -0800 David E. Fox disseminated the following: btw this sylpheed just quoted the URL above and no other part of the message. Seems to be a bug? sypheed 0.9.9 from eslrahc.net. ...did you have the URL selected or highlighted when you hit reply? Sylpheed only quotes the text you select, all if no selection. I love this feature. Exactly the same in kmail Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:04:49 + Anne Wilson disseminated the following: Sylpheed only quotes the text you select, all if no selection. I love this feature. Exactly the same in kmail ...which explains Aron's difficulty with judicious snipping. He uses Evolution. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 11:16:04 up 14:17, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.12 +++ Linux 2.4.22-26mdk i686 +++ And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.-- Rush Limbaugh, drug abuser Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 22:48 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update? On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:05:29 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: install. All packages were security packages. Next I tried bug fixes and 11 out of 12 failed to install. Flustered I then selected all bug fixes and(191MB) failed to install very quickly (less than a minute). I called top You were using Mandrake update, right? The slow response might be due to heavy I/O activity, or it could be the sign of large memory consumption. You did mention that the system is not swapping, which of course is a good thing, but depending on what you are trying to do, the underlying engine can require a lot of think time to slog through all the dependencies, comparing what you have on your system. A huge update would maybe take several minutes (or longer) before it came back with actual packages to install/upgrade. IME, I've had more success with urpmi than I ve had with Mandrake update. The latter used to be very greedy for RAM, possibly that's been addressed. I'm using the cpu moniter applet and the modem lights applet to monitor things. The cpu is very inactive hardly works, except when installing a program then it fills the entire monitor. The moden lights indicates that the server is responding and sending information but there are no messages to advise me what is going on (I dont know what message 109 means or 180 17 or etc.). The major problem is that either some program times out and decides that it isnt going to get the rpm and a message appears that tells me that install cant read the sig. Cant open the rpm, which hasnt been downloaded because it quit before downloading. So I click continue and install and maybe it will download the rpm, maybe not but it finally does. I suspect the server is very busy but nothing tells me that it is, why doesnt the program switch servers if it is busy. This is possible because there are a lot of servers around the world. As you can tell I am flustered. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] McBride: open-source software threatens the U.S. IT industry
--- David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:10:56 -0800 (PST) Job Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiousity...has SCO presented any proof that Linux contains thousands of lines of proprietary code cd /usr/src/linux ; find . -name *.c | xargs grep int i | wc -l or somesuch :) 17,944. That's a *lot* of lines. In a demonstration of my ignorance, I don't understand! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Netatalk
Does anyone have any experience with netatalk? I'm trying to set up a home network using a linux box as a server with two other macs running os9. As a newbie much of the setup with netatalk docs seems over my head :( Maybe someone could walk me through? Or give me some tips on set up? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 23:33 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Hoyt /usr/sbin/edit-urpm-media is the sources gui /usr/sbin/rpmdrake-remove is the remove software gui /usr/sbin/rpmdrake is the gui to add software /usr/sbin/MandrakeUpdate is the gui for updates (if you want to use their sources) All of the above must be run as root or su - The gui's run from a terminal kinda helped me learn a little about what was going on. But I agree with David urpmi is the way to go and faster once you get the hang of it. urpmi,urpme,urpmi.update,urpmi.addmedia,etc. I found have some readable documentation for a newbie like me compared some of the man pages :-) Also on the kernel update you could take a look at this artical on the Mandrake site. Its a good idea to edit your lilo.conf to be able to boot to your old kernel in case something goes wrong with the new kernel installation. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php Thanks for the info. It should be usefull. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NEWBIE 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 07:45 Subject: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory CPU temperatures and cooling issues+ memory === I decided to start this thread again. The precious thread had become a bit rambling. Well, My cpu / heatsink and case temperatures are still regarded by the techies at AMD as withing tollerances. I am not happy with the conclusion though. These are:-- Case temp 28C with CPU temp of 49/50C on normal desktop loads. Case temp 28/32C CPU temp of 56.5 on 99% Loads (and siezure) I am not happy with these temps. I would like to see case temps of 28C constant and cpu temps of low 40's rising to middle/upper 40's under full load scenarios. I already have to 8cm case fans ,in at front, out at back. I feel , rightly or wrongly, that my real problem is the heat sink itself which is of all alluminium construction, and/or the bedding of the heatsink to the cpu.I have already tried rebedding the heat sink. Incdentally AMD did not recommend the compund bedding matterial at all, and recommended the patch method. I must say that has not been my experience to date. I have always had best results with a thin screed of compound. I wonder what other folks experiences are. Alluminium is a worse heat conductor than copper and gold is even better. I would suggest you get in touch with the people who make heat sinks they would be better able to advise you. I feel my current heatsink fails to transfer the generated cpu heat to the veins and the airflow fast enough. That may be due to the method of bedding Contact is the most important, the bedding is used to insure that the heat sink is in firm contact with the heat generator. Air flow across the heat sink is VERY important. but I am fast loosing confidence in that conclusion. I suspect the alluminium block itself is not as good a conducter of heat as I really need for my 1800 athlon cpu. I wonder whether those of you with experience of coper heatsinks can report your experiences, are they that much better than alluminium heatsinks ? I would really like to know. I am prepared to buy a new coper heatsink if they prove really worthwhile. I have tried to find out which manufacturer made my stick of memory without success. All I can find out is what I can read on the stick itself:- SANSUNG 151 K4H560838C-TCB0 BCJ165XX KOREA Samsung Korea 0152 M368L6423CTL-CB0 512MB DDR PC2100 I have tried to find out if Samsung have a chip plant in Korea. I still donn't know. It could be made from samsung chips in a plant not owned by samsung in korea.In which case maybe not so good. But Samsung in general I though made good quality chips ? Anyway that is all I know to date. Not an expert. Hope these notes help. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Morning Funny
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 07:14 Subject: [newbie] Morning Funny Ya, I know it's not 'morning' for everyone, but since Canada is the center of the known universe, and Toronto is the capital of Canada... Quote: Riot police have finally managed to beat back the milling throng of displaced Visual Basic programmers who attacked the courthouse after Judge Cotter Kathelly announced that Linux was not an illegal monopoly and that neither Linus Torvalds nor his company, Linux Development, Inc, owed damages to former employees and shareholders of now-bankrupt Microsoft or to any of its business partners. Link: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/01/30/0111257 Finally an honest judge. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error while doing Mandrake Update
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 23:22 Subject: [newbie] Error while doing Mandrake Update When I do a Bugfixes updates and select the following updates I get errors. Updates: libqt3-3.1.2-15.3.92mdk libqt-devel-3.1.2-15.3.92mdk qt3-common-3.1.2-15.3.92mdk First error: The following packages have bad signatures: libqt3-3.1.2-15.3.92mdk.i586.rpm: Missing signature (Couldn't open file) Do you want to continue installation? I reply yes!! Second error: There was a problem during the installation: libqt3 = 3.1.2-15.3.92mdk is needed by libqt3-devel-3.1.2-15.3.92mdk libqt3 = 3.1.2-15.3.92mdk is needed by qt3-common-3.1.2-15.3.92mdk qt3-common = 3.1.2-15.3.92mdk is needed by (installed) libqt3-3.1.2-15.2.92mdk unable to install package ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./libqt3-3.1.2-15.3.92mdk.i586.rpm Any help would be appreciated Russ I'm going though it too Russ just click install untill it downloads all of the rpm's you have selected. You will likely get this sequence more than once just go through it and click install again. Finally it will install everything and you will be happy. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] GIMP and gfx tablets
do any of the Gimpers here using a gfx tablet for drawing in the GIMP? if so what ones work and is it easy .. or not.. to get working etc... LtCdData Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GIMP and gfx tablets
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 06:38:03PM +, LtCdData wrote: do any of the Gimpers here using a gfx tablet for drawing in the GIMP? if so what ones work and is it easy .. or not.. to get working etc... LtCdData When I was looking at getting a wacom tablet I came across this: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/ Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GIMP and gfx tablets
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 21:00, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 06:38:03PM +, LtCdData wrote: do any of the Gimpers here using a gfx tablet for drawing in the GIMP? if so what ones work and is it easy .. or not.. to get working etc... LtCdData When I was looking at getting a wacom tablet I came across this: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/ Todd I wasn't sure what is meant by gfx tablet but I've been using a Wacom tablet for quite a while now (since Mandrake7.2). As of Mandrake8.2 they got autoconfigured at install time, and that includes Mdk10.0-beta1 I discovered today;) I can only recommend (a serial) Wacom, they're expensive but worth every cent if you're planning to make more use of it than just a mouse substitute. The smaller, cheaper especially USB tablets are trouble prone with linux (this includes the AIPTEKS) and actually coarser to handle than a trackball for instance. Of course the cheap ones will do fine as a mouse substitute, that's only click and point, heh:) Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
I'm preparing to install Mandrake 9.2 to dual boot with Windows XP on my laptop. It's my first install and I've reduced the NTFS partition using Partition Magic 8.0 to make 9Gb of the 20Gb disk available. Ideally, I'd like to install LILO/GRUB on the MBR but I've read reports of non-windows boot loaders being considered a virus (by XP or the BIOS or Virus software I'm not sure which) and advice to retain the XP boot loader and to place LILO/GRUB on the boot partition. Does anyone know if this is still a consideration? I'd really appreciate it If someone could also tell me whether it's easier/better to create the Linux partitions with Partition Magic before starting the install or to leave the install process to create them for me. Thanks, David. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[Fwd: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box]
-Forwarded Message- From: Merlin Zener [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie - Mandrake Linux list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box Date: 03 Feb 2004 17:45:13 +0700 On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 21:49, Anne Wilson wrote: [...snip] Here is what's in /etc/hosts atm: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.20localhost.localdomain localhost I presume that 192.168.0.20 is your linux box? That should be something like merlin.yourworkgroupname merlin Hello good people, I'm trying this ***yet again***. . . You may remember I couldn't edit /etc/hosts before with kedit; someone suggested I try gedit - that didn't work either because it wasn't there. Well now, after finally managing to stay connected long enough to download it and the dependencies it still won't work. Here's what I got, just now: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# gedit /etc/hosts Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified (gedit:3156): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# I don't understand why this is so hard. First, I am running KDE as a desktop - I thought kedit was the KDE editor? And gedit is the Gnome one? Do I have to be running Gnome for gedit to work? [I don't see how it would make any difference - I'm starting it from the text box anyhow...] And what's so special about this hosts file that I need to edit it with a special program? Isn't it just plain text? Or is there some other issue - do I have to shut down the network first before editing that file? [I don't know - I'm clutching at straws here...] If so, how do I do it? What I really need, is a clue... -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Driver Install Issues
Ok, the good news is we've installed all the files and the device is now found. The bad news is it is picking up one of my client PCs and not the access point. Command we have tried: # iwconfig wlan1 ap (MAC address of router) It returns this error: error for wireless request Set AP address (8B14) : SET failed on device wlan1 ; Operation not supported. The device seems to want to set itself as ad hoc and my router sees it as a separate network, even though we have given it the same ESSID. It has received 68 packets only. I cannot ping it from the Windows client and it will not ping anything, however my router can see it. Can you offer any suggestions? Thanks Lexx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GIMP and gfx tablets
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 20:35, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2004 21:00, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 06:38:03PM +, LtCdData wrote: do any of the Gimpers here using a gfx tablet for drawing in the GIMP? if so what ones work and is it easy .. or not.. to get working etc... LtCdData When I was looking at getting a wacom tablet I came across this: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/ Todd I wasn't sure what is meant by gfx tablet but I've been using a Wacom tablet for quite a while now (since Mandrake7.2). As of Mandrake8.2 they got autoconfigured at install time, and that includes Mdk10.0-beta1 I discovered today;) I can only recommend (a serial) Wacom, they're expensive but worth every cent if you're planning to make more use of it than just a mouse substitute. The smaller, cheaper especially USB tablets are trouble prone with linux (this includes the AIPTEKS) and actually coarser to handle than a trackball for instance. Of course the cheap ones will do fine as a mouse substitute, that's only click and point, heh:) I understand that Genius tablets are supported - midway between Aiptek and Wacom in price, I think Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 03:47 pm, David Reid wrote: I'm preparing to install Mandrake 9.2 to dual boot with Windows XP on my laptop. It's my first install and I've reduced the NTFS partition using Partition Magic 8.0 to make 9Gb of the 20Gb disk available. Ideally, I'd like to install LILO/GRUB on the MBR but I've read reports of non-windows boot loaders being considered a virus (by XP or the BIOS or Virus software I'm not sure which) and advice to retain the XP boot loader and to place LILO/GRUB on the boot partition. Does anyone know if this is still a consideration? I'd really appreciate it If someone could also tell me whether it's easier/better to create the Linux partitions with Partition Magic before starting the install or to leave the install process to create them for me. It's not XP that considers it a virus, but some BIOS virus checking routines. IMO, it is preferable to install to mbr. I have never experienced a problem with this in terms of hurting my windows isntalls. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Tue Feb 3 2004 12:47 pm, David Reid wrote: I'm preparing to install Mandrake 9.2 to dual boot with Windows XP on my laptop. It's my first install and I've reduced the NTFS partition using Partition Magic 8.0 to make 9Gb of the 20Gb disk available. Ideally, I'd like to install LILO/GRUB on the MBR but I've read reports of non-windows boot loaders being considered a virus (by XP or the BIOS or Virus software I'm not sure which) and advice to retain the XP boot loader and to place LILO/GRUB on the boot partition. Does anyone know if this is still a consideration? I'd really appreciate it If someone could also tell me whether it's easier/better to create the Linux partitions with Partition Magic before starting the install or to leave the install process to create them for me. I've been using Windows/XP, FreeDOS and various distro's of linux with lilo as the boot loader for quite a while. I haven't had any ill affects from having lilo in the MBR. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problems installing KDevelop 3
Hi Im trying to install kdevelop-3.0.0-0.2mdk.i586.rpm but theres a lot of conflicts and stuff I dont know enough about. To start with theres this conflict: mandrake-mime = 0.4-5mdk conflicts with kdevelop-3.0.0-0.2mdk Also I need to install libXinerama.so.1 wich is located in libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk.i586.rpm and this rpm confilicts a lot with existing stuff: file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/ximcp.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcDef.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcUTF8Load.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlibi18n.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk . ... . So what would you recommend? Stay out of it? Do you think there will be an update sometime I can get with the Mandrake update tool? Best regards Sren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Netatalk
On 2004-02-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_1075812845-2060-87 Does anyone have any experience with netatalk? I'm trying to set up a home network using a linux box as a server with two other macs running os9. As a newbie much of the setup with netatalk docs seems over my head :( Maybe someone could walk me through? Or give me some tips on set up? Could you ask a more specific question? So I assume you started by installing the Mandrake netatalk package and followed the related instructions. At what point did your experience start to differ from what you expected from the documentation? Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box]
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 21:10, Merlin Zener wrote: Hello good people, I'm trying this ***yet again***. . . You may remember I couldn't edit /etc/hosts before with kedit; someone suggested I try gedit - that didn't work either because it wasn't there. Well now, after finally managing to stay connected long enough to download it and the dependencies it still won't work. Here's what I got, just now: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# gedit /etc/hosts Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified (gedit:3156): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# I don't understand why this is so hard. First, I am running KDE as a desktop - I thought kedit was the KDE editor? And gedit is the Gnome one? Do I have to be running Gnome for gedit to work? [I don't see how it would make any difference - I'm starting it from the text box anyhow...] And what's so special about this hosts file that I need to edit it with a special program? Isn't it just plain text? Or is there some other issue - do I have to shut down the network first before editing that file? [I don't know - I'm clutching at straws here...] If so, how do I do it? What I really need, is a clue... I'm not sure what's gone before, Merlin, but here's my thoughts. Assuming you're using 9.2? Try kdesu That brings up konqueror with root priveleges, I believe. You should then be able to right-click /etc/hosts and edit it. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box]
Hi Merlin, I am not 100% certain on the syntax, but I had this happen once too. If you log into X as a user and change to root, this effect can sometimes happen. To prevent that, you can run xhost + from the commandline before starting X (from runlevel 3, not sure where to put it when you use runlevel 5). That allows anyone to connect to the X server. In which lies a vulnerability, because that also can give outside folks access to your X server. But that is what has helped me run graphical utilities in X as root. man xhost tells: NAME xhost - server access control program for X SYNOPSIS xhost [[+-]name ...] DESCRIPTION The xhost program is used to add and delete host names or user names to the list allowed to make connections to the X server. First, I am running KDE as a desktop - I thought kedit was the KDE editor? Yes. And gedit is the Gnome one? Yes Do I have to be running Gnome for gedit to work? No, you only need the gnome libraries installed. Good luck, Paul -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Thunderbird 0.5a/20031217 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Netatalk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2004 18:36 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone have any experience with netatalk? I'm trying to set up a home network using a linux box as a server with two other macs running os9. As a newbie much of the setup with netatalk docs seems over my head :( Maybe someone could walk me through? Or give me some tips on set up? I played around with netatalk about 1 1/2 years ago. The only reason was the joy to copy my mp3 files from my Mac OS 9 Box to my brand new lnux notebook. Finally, it was not very difficult: * edit the config files * restarting the server * connect from Mac to Linux box One tipp: use a separate directory to share with the Macs, no data dir, no music dir, no home dir, because netatalk has to save the resouce fork of the mac files as seperate file for each stored file. To get it to work, use google. It's not difficult, but needs some time to read. Gruß / regards ce == Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE 8.0 on a Dell Inspiron 8200: http://home.t-online.de/home/mchristoph.eckert/inspiron8200/ == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIA32gCBqix845w0RAvhYAJwM9TfXhbM7LwjOfqijeBlYyap/BwCfdLcs 9QIINVAXeI6kuAjDmV3ZmQ0= =XiPM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
On Tuesday 03 Feb 2004 1:47 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: CPU temperatures and cooling issues+ memory === I decided to start this thread again. The precious thread had become a bit rambling. Well, My cpu / heatsink and case temperatures are still regarded by the techies at AMD as withing tollerances. I am not happy with the conclusion though. These are:-- Case temp 28C with CPU temp of 49/50C on normal desktop loads. Case temp 28/32C CPU temp of 56.5 on 99% Loads (and siezure) I am not happy with these temps. I would like to see case temps of 28C constant and cpu temps of low 40's rising to middle/upper 40's under full load scenarios. I already have two 8cm case fans ,in at front, out at back. Hi John, I usually throw away the stock coolers and buy a decent one. However I do run my Linux standalone router (AMD Athlon 2000+) with its stock cooler and fan adapter so I can use a higher CFM 8cm fan. You could always use a 6cm-8cm adapter+ 8cm fan to increase the airflow over your heatsink. For an Athlon 1800+ which isn't overclocked you shouldn't really need a new heatsink. However AMD are taking out of their backside if they think that a patch is the way to bond a heatsink to a CPU!! Always use high grade heatsink compound (I always use Artic Silver - but thats just laziness :-). If you do want to spend lots of money Swiftech make very nice copper heatsinks :-) This is unlikely to be the root cause of your problem. Athlon CPUs do run hot. So do P4's for that matter :-) My laptop (P4-M) has a cooling hystersis which switches in at 54C and off at 46C. I built up a Athlon 2500+ based PC for a friend. Even when its not overclocked and with a huge Coolermaster blower-type fan it still runs at 47C idle!! Have you thought of a powersupply issue? The PSU will be under strain when your CPU is drawing a lot of current (mainly to heat your house). The PSU in another PC I built even tripped the MAIN circuit breaker in the flat :-) The powersupply became more and more unstable (PC just died occasionally). That powersupply was rated at 400W so think QUALITY not POWER!! Antec, Q-Tec, Thermaltake, etc. are good. Make sure your RAM is branded: Crucial, PNY, Kingston, Samsung, Panasonic, Corsair, etc. In the first PC I built I used generic DDRAM. I had to replace one the modules within a year because it had died :-( Its hard to tell with yours - like you say it may be outsourced Samsung production. My advice would be to try getting hold/borrowing something like a cheap Q-Tec PSU and/or a crucial DDRAM (PC2100) stick to test what is actually wrong. Then replace these parts (one at a time). Linux has kernel support for avoiding dodgy areas of RAM but I would rather have RAM that works :-) Hope that helps. Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Tuesday 03 Feb 2004 8:47 pm, David Reid wrote: I'm preparing to install Mandrake 9.2 to dual boot with Windows XP on my laptop. It's my first install and I've reduced the NTFS partition using Partition Magic 8.0 to make 9Gb of the 20Gb disk available. Ideally, I'd like to install LILO/GRUB on the MBR but I've read reports of non-windows boot loaders being considered a virus (by XP or the BIOS or Virus software I'm not sure which) and advice to retain the XP boot loader and to place LILO/GRUB on the boot partition. Does anyone know if this is still a consideration? I'd really appreciate it If someone could also tell me whether it's easier/better to create the Linux partitions with Partition Magic before starting the install or to leave the install process to create them for me. Thanks, David. Hi David, I have a dual boot Windows XP Pro and MDK 9.2 on my P4-M laptop. I had Windows XP Pro installed as a single NTFS partition (about 36gig). I just resized the Windows partition using the Mandrake partitioning tool (why use Partition Magic?? :-) and made a second partition (native Linux ext-3). I didn't even bother defraging the Windows partition!! I didn't bother with a shared FAT partition as Linux support for reading from NTFS is excellent or a swap partition (the laptop has 1 gig of RAM). I just installed MDK with a Lilo bootloader and it works great. I also have MDK Linux installed on a PC I use as a router/gateway with a cheapo MSI motherboard. This MB has a virus checker in the BIOS which checks the MBR for nasty viri. Unfortunately it thinks Linux is a virus so I just turned it off (its probably only needed by M$ Winblows users anyway :-). So don't worry about using the MBR... budge over Winblows and make room for a real OS :-) Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Netatalk
On Tuesday, February 3, 2004, at 12:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any experience with netatalk? I'm trying to set up a home network using a linux box as a server with two other macs running os9. As a newbie much of the setup with netatalk docs seems over my head :( Maybe someone could walk me through? Or give me some tips on set up? Sure - I'm using it daily. (granted on RedHat machines) What do you need to know? Where are you stuck? Unless you want to do something fancy I'd say you can basically ignore 98% of the docs. They aren't required. The default settings are pretty good. Assuming you have netatalk installed and running, and have checked the firewall isn't interferring, create a file called .AppleVolumes in your home directory on the linux machine. It should be plain text and contain only a tilde mark ~ This will share your entire home directory. If it's just a specific folder you could instead put in a single line like this /home/username/music music This makes the music folder in username's home folder shared as Appletalk volume 'music' Then just fire up the chooser, pick appleshare and your server should show up on the right hand side. Just give it your linux user name and password and away you go. It's amusing, but our netatalk servers are more reliable talking to OSX than the genuine Apple OS9 machines. Dunno why, but OSX=OS9 is flakey, whereas 9=9 or 10=10 is fine. Netatalk is good with both. OS 7 needs some massaging to use netatalk servers. B Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problems installing gpsim
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 20:18, Richard Urwin wrote: On Monday 02 Feb 2004 12:22 am, Paul wrote: I'm having difficulties installing gpsim, a PIC simulator, on a Mandrake 9.2 system I've tried a tarball and and rpm (not Mandrake) but am having problems with gtk+extra and libreadline.so.4 respectively. Both packages are installed. Any advice please? It's difficult without seeing the error message, but this is usually that you don't have the development package of the libraries installed, just the runtime. Try looking for the library packages with -devel suffixes. Thanks for the advice, Richard, but still no go. I'm just about to start downloading Mandrake 10, so I've gpsim it on hold until that's installed. Paul M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
Robert Walker wrote: On Tuesday 03 Feb 2004 1:47 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: CPU temperatures and cooling issues+ memory === I decided to start this thread again. The precious thread had become a bit rambling. Well, My cpu / heatsink and case temperatures are still regarded by the techies at AMD as withing tollerances. I am not happy with the conclusion though. These are:-- Case temp 28C with CPU temp of 49/50C on normal desktop loads. Case temp 28/32C CPU temp of 56.5 on 99% Loads (and siezure) I am not happy with these temps. I would like to see case temps of 28C constant and cpu temps of low 40's rising to middle/upper 40's under full load scenarios. I already have two 8cm case fans ,in at front, out at back. Hi John, I usually throw away the stock coolers and buy a decent one. However I do run my Linux standalone router (AMD Athlon 2000+) with its stock cooler and fan adapter so I can use a higher CFM 8cm fan. You could always use a 6cm-8cm adapter+ 8cm fan to increase the airflow over your heatsink. For an Athlon 1800+ which isn't overclocked you shouldn't really need a new heatsink. However AMD are taking out of their backside if they think that a patch is the way to bond a heatsink to a CPU!! Always use high grade heatsink compound (I always use Artic Silver - but thats just laziness :-). If you do want to spend lots of money Swiftech make very nice copper heatsinks :-) This is unlikely to be the root cause of your problem. Athlon CPUs do run hot. So do P4's for that matter :-) My laptop (P4-M) has a cooling hystersis which switches in at 54C and off at 46C. I built up a Athlon 2500+ based PC for a friend. Even when its not overclocked and with a huge Coolermaster blower-type fan it still runs at 47C idle!! Have you thought of a powersupply issue? The PSU will be under strain when your CPU is drawing a lot of current (mainly to heat your house). The PSU in another PC I built even tripped the MAIN circuit breaker in the flat :-) The powersupply became more and more unstable (PC just died occasionally). That powersupply was rated at 400W so think QUALITY not POWER!! Antec, Q-Tec, Thermaltake, etc. are good. Make sure your RAM is branded: Crucial, PNY, Kingston, Samsung, Panasonic, Corsair, etc. In the first PC I built I used generic DDRAM. I had to replace one the modules within a year because it had died :-( Its hard to tell with yours - like you say it may be outsourced Samsung production. My advice would be to try getting hold/borrowing something like a cheap Q-Tec PSU and/or a crucial DDRAM (PC2100) stick to test what is actually wrong. Then replace these parts (one at a time). Linux has kernel support for avoiding dodgy areas of RAM but I would rather have RAM that works :-) Hope that helps. Robert Thanks Robert, This is what I want to know, I trust guys who have been and done it with their own cash more than anything else. I've been doing a bit of rummaging around and two heatsinks that look better than I have are, Swiftech MCX462-V which has a rather novel hedgehog type of heatsink. Vantec VA4-C7040 aeroflow cooler which is definately copper but has a 4 sided vent airflow system. I don't think either are very quiet though, and although not cheap, are at least affordable. I do agree about the heatsink compound and that has been my experience too. My PSU is brand new and rated at 350W, it seems ok ,but not the best. I don't suspect it at the moment. No mine is a heat transfer problem that I want to improve.I think the 7CM fan provides enough volume of air but the heat is not being transfered quickly enough to the airflow. That's why I am considering a copper base heatsink, but it's nice to hear from people who have experienced these things ahead of me. I've never used a copper based heatsink. It seems to me these heatsinks have a terribly difficult job to do, the cpu which is only about 10 mm square generates a lot of heat and that has to be whipped away pronto through solid metal. I guess the fins have to be really cold to generate a cross flow of heat energy. It's incredible it works at all. If your interested to know more about the two heatsinks I mention above just type the model number into google. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing KDevelop 3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday 03 February 2004 2:15 pm, Søren Neigaard wrote: Hi Im trying to install kdevelop-3.0.0-0.2mdk.i586.rpm but theres a lot of conflicts and stuff I dont know enough about. To start with theres this conflict: mandrake-mime = 0.4-5mdk conflicts with kdevelop-3.0.0-0.2mdk Also I need to install libXinerama.so.1 wich is located in libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk.i586.rpm and this rpm confilicts a lot with existing stuff: Again with the cooker packages Søren? sigh You can install kdevelop complete from a mirror for the version of the distribution you're running at the moment. Cooker packages on an older release are a *bad thing* unless one of the kind souls that packages newer versions of rpms for older releases. Or are you running one of the beta releases of Mandrake 10.0? In other words: set up software sources for your version and just urpmi kdevelop [Enter] and the dependencies should be taken care of. You can set up the software sources by going to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php then following the instructions. EXCEPT; _Don't_ use the command urpmi.removemedia -a unless you want to start over with no disks, no previously configured sources, etc.. file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/ximcp.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcDef.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcUTF8Load.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlibi18n.so.2 from install of libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk conflicts with file from package libxfree86-4.3-24.1.92mdk . So what would you recommend? Stay out of it? Do you think there will be an update sometime I can get with the Mandrake update tool? Best regards Søren Try not to mix different release versions. You'll just get pissed. g Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.2mdk 14:33:02 up 13:39, 1 user, load average: 0.89, 0.49, 0.29 BOFH excuse #397: T-1's congested due to porn traffic to the news server. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIBV6ZqvqlrLPr5YRAjmaAKCpnzUK0lhiR1rCKy9VQeQOKhtEwwCfYUjR cQv10mzc+OcpKz59+bKrwAE= =Slfh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing KDevelop 3
On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 22:41, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday 03 February 2004 2:15 pm, Sren Neigaard wrote: Hi Im trying to install kdevelop-3.0.0-0.2mdk.i586.rpm but theres a lot of conflicts and stuff I dont know enough about. To start with theres this conflict: mandrake-mime = 0.4-5mdk conflicts with kdevelop-3.0.0-0.2mdk Also I need to install libXinerama.so.1 wich is located in libxfree86-4.4-0.902.3mdk.i586.rpm and this rpm confilicts a lot with existing stuff: Again with the cooker packages Sren? sigh Ha ha, yes well havent got the hang of it yet it seems :) You can install kdevelop complete from a mirror for the version of the distribution you're running at the moment. Cooker packages on an older release are a *bad thing* unless one of the kind souls that packages newer versions of rpms for older releases. Or are you running one of the beta releases of Mandrake 10.0? No noo just 9.2 :) In other words: set up software sources for your version and just urpmi kdevelop [Enter] and the dependencies should be taken care of. You can set up the software sources by going to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php then following the instructions. EXCEPT; _Don't_ use the command urpmi.removemedia -a unless you want to start over with no disks, no previously configured sources, etc.. I used the site and added sources from denmark to main, contrib and updates. Then I did a urpmi kdevelop which gave me this: medium contrib uses an invalid list file: mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method Everything already installed Im thinking that either i did it wrong, or KDevelop3 is not on those mirrors yet, but really I have no idea :) Any pointers? Best regards Sren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing KDevelop 3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday 03 February 2004 4:55 pm, Søren Neigaard wrote: whack Again with the cooker packages Søren? sigh Ha ha, yes well havent got the hang of it yet it seems :) You can install kdevelop complete from a mirror for the version of the distribution you're running at the moment. Cooker packages on an older release are a *bad thing* unless one of the kind souls that packages newer versions of rpms for older releases. Or are you running one of the beta releases of Mandrake 10.0? No noo just 9.2 :) In other words: set up software sources for your version and just urpmi kdevelop [Enter] and the dependencies should be taken care of. You can set up the software sources by going to http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php then following the instructions. EXCEPT; _Don't_ use the command urpmi.removemedia -a unless you want to start over with no disks, no previously configured sources, etc.. I used the site and added sources from denmark to main, contrib and updates. Then I did a urpmi kdevelop which gave me this: medium contrib uses an invalid list file: mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method Everything already installed Remove the contrib.list file in /var/lib/urpmi then try it again. Im thinking that either i did it wrong, or KDevelop3 is not on those mirrors yet, but really I have no idea :) You did it right but you're looking for newer packages than you'll find on the 9.2 mirrors. So read this: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-10/msg02567.php and good luck to ya! (-: Any pointers? Best regards Søren Charlie the pest. g - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.2mdk 17:00:41 up 16:06, 1 user, load average: 0.31, 0.32, 0.19 Sometimes, when I think of what that girl means to me, it's all I can do to keep from telling her. -- Andy Capp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIDa5ZqvqlrLPr5YRAvBqAJsFwytYZGAMIbKgt1157+cedOY9kQCgq8N5 B+c0ijCIS3418JvrswLKklE= =3GWR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 09:49 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip I'm using the cpu moniter applet and the modem lights applet to monitor things. The cpu is very inactive hardly works, except when installing a program then it fills the entire monitor. The moden lights indicates that the server is responding and sending information but there are no messages to advise me what is going on (I dont know what message 109 means or 180 17 or etc.). The major problem is that either some program times out and decides that it isnt going to get the rpm and a message appears that tells me that install cant read the sig. Cant open the rpm, which hasnt been downloaded because it quit before downloading. So I click continue and install and maybe it will download the rpm, maybe not but it finally does. I suspect the server is very busy but nothing tells me that it is, why doesnt the program switch servers if it is busy. This is possible because there are a lot of servers around the world. As you can tell I am flustered. Regards; Hoyt Hoyt: About monitoring your modem: If you are using dialup, and if you connect via kppp, then you can see a graphical display of line activity by clicking on the kppp ditty in the taskbar and selecting Details. (Not the complete authoritative response you need, I know, but it does beat hell out of staring at those lights.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 05:23 pm, Robert Walker wrote: a cheapo MSI motherboard. This MB has a virus checker in the BIOS which checks the MBR for nasty viri. Unfortunately it thinks Linux is a virus so I just turned it off (its probably only needed by M$ Winblows users anyway :-). So don't worry about using the MBR.. If you want to use the BIOS virus check, leave it off until you install the bootloader and then turn it back on. It merely prevents anything from writing to the mbr and lets you know if it changes. If you turn it on after you write the mbr, it shouldn't give you trouble. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?
On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 08:17, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:04:49 + Anne Wilson disseminated the following: Sylpheed only quotes the text you select, all if no selection. I love this feature. Exactly the same in kmail ...which explains Aron's difficulty with judicious snipping. He uses Evolution. Tried claws but can't get it to open a link love the spellchecker tho. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Test #2
I said don't read this ;p -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TV out with ATI Radeon 7000
Raffaele Belardi wrote: I have an ATI Radeon 7000 with TV out connector. If I connect the TV and boot the PC, the video card puts itself in a sort of 'TV-compatible' mode (i.e. it uses 50Hz horizontal refresh rate to avoid burning the TV), so during the boot I see the MDK logo and writings on TV. The problem is that, with the 50Hz rate, X refuses to start with the message Cannot find suitable screen. I saw in the XF86Config file that there is already a modeline suitable for TV-out, but how do I enable it? thanks, raffaele I also had this card. The only way I could get tv out working under X was to change to the frambuffer driver (radeon FBDEV if i rememer correctly), and use 800x600 resolution. Unfortunately XV didn't seem to work with this driver so i could not watch movies full screen without dropped frames. I think the GATOS project might be able to make tv out work properly using the ATI.2 driver, google for it. Never got it to work properly before I sold the card. Hope this helps. Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to give up: last solution-reinstall
Hi Greg, Would you know how I could get the path of the tmp use by the XFS? TIA. - Original Message - From: Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] I want to give up: last solution-reinstall On Monday 02 February 2004 11:52 pm, Sourisak S. wrote: Boo! hoo! hoo!, I checked -fontpath (good), -the font fixed exist (fslsfonts gave me all the information about the font). -/etc/init.d/xfs seems to run ok. Where is the missing link? I never had this problem on other mandrake version. Please someone help me. I don't to re-install because I want to solve this problem manually so I can understand. TIA Song. PS: For reminder, I had a error at login. I can't startx. the error message was: could not open default font fixed. Do a df. That error usually means your root partition (or the partition with /tmp on it) is full, not a problem with your fonts. Basically, X can't create the temp files it needs to run. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] test Message
Please don't read ;-p -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I want to give up: last solution-reinstall
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 11:00 pm, Rude Boy wrote: Would you know how I could get the path of the tmp use by the XFS? /tmp -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
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Re: [newbie] Netatalk
Does anyone have any experience with netatalk? This is a great place to start (and finish) : http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cnatalk.html eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kde 3.2
Hi all, Are there going to be any brave souls that attempt some rpms of 3.2 for mdk 9.2, or will we have to wait for 10? Cheers Anton -=-=- ... A beer delayed is a beer denied. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:23:11 + Robert Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, I have a dual boot Windows XP Pro and MDK 9.2 on my P4-M laptop. I had Windows XP Pro installed as a single NTFS partition (about 36gig). I just resized the Windows partition using the Mandrake partitioning tool (why use Partition Magic?? :-) and made a second partition (native Linux ext-3). I didn't even bother defraging the Windows partition!! I didn't bother with a shared FAT partition as Linux support for reading from NTFS is excellent or a swap partition (the laptop has 1 gig of RAM). I just installed MDK with a Lilo bootloader and it works great. I also have MDK Linux installed on a PC I use as a router/gateway with a cheapo MSI motherboard. This MB has a virus checker in the BIOS which checks the MBR for nasty viri. Unfortunately it thinks Linux is a virus so I just turned it off (its probably only needed by M$ Winblows users anyway :-). So don't worry about using the MBR... budge over Winblows and make room for a real OS :-) Robert Robert, mind if I piggyback on this question? I have a new AMD64 laptop, and it came with XP Home (of course!) I want to put XP-64 as well as Mandrake 32-bit and 64-bit. Can lilo or grub handle copying files before starting to boot Windows versions? Here's the rub: all versions of Windows derived from NT have two critical startup files: ntldr and ntdetect.com. These are incompatible between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions, so I need the boot mechanism to copy in the right versions from backup directories before kicking off the boot process. System Commander does this, and I just learned the hard way that BootMagic (comes with Partition Magic) does *not* gr. Seeing as I have to start all over, I thought I'd try doing it with grub. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
