Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
Chuck Mattsen wrote: On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 00:52, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Friday 26 March 2004 8:08 pm, William Hatfield pondered and enlightened us with: I haven't quite got the hang of how to install things on Mandrake. I downloaded the Starter Guide, but it is still like greek to me. Be patient. With time, and with some effort, it will quickly begin to resemble not Greek, but Esperanto. :*) Several books that I have used include: LINUX: THE COMPLETE REFERENCE, 5/E THE LINUX COOKBOOK LINUX ETUDES RUNNING LINUX I'll second the recommendation for Running Linux, which I'm currently working my way through. At times it gets a little heavy or technical for a casual user, but on the whole it does a pretty good job of explaining basic concepts in an understandable manner. RUTE is also good. What is wrong here people? Oh, that's right. WTF is rute says the complete newbie!?! The Rute users guide is a project/book aiming at a fairly good intro to whizz of Linux: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html its free but you can also buy a hard copy. It's definitely worth a look. I had a look at Sams RedHat 9 book and found that there was reasonably little that was different to Mandrake. Except Redhat is for goons...:-) Also worth a look if you want a massive manual to make you feel a little more secure. That said, I still know /so/ little ... yet, it's volumes more than I knew 5-6 weeks ago. Some problems I've been able to figure out on my own, others with the patient help of those here in this group, and others I still don't understand well enough to tackle ... those I've put aside for a later time when, hopefully, things will have fallen into place for me and they'll be a piece of cake. :-) One of the problems with Linux books is there current-ness. Many books offered are way out of date. Mandrake is very similar to Red Hat, so a current Red Hat book could be a good buy. But don't leave us, as there is alot of useful stuff that is not documented in books, that only we Mandrake folks know about. I'd also recommend -- being somewhat of a miser myself, and on a very limited income at the moment -- checking out the used book sources (such as Amazon, or perhaps http://www.bookfinder.com). That's what I did a few weeks back when I was first getting my Linux feet wet, and managed to pick up like-new, current editions of Running Linux, Linux Desk Reference, and Linux in a Nutshell for around $50 total, SH included. And the pundits that talk about how linux is not ready for the desktop have no idea what they are talking about. Linux has been ready for this desktop for the last 4 years. I run a 100% MS free PC. My processor has never seen MS code. Linux is certainly ready for the desktop ... I would, however, say that most (more casual) users are not ready for Linux. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -=-=- ... For thee the wonder-working earth puts forth sweet flowers. -- Titus Lucretius Carus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla FTP oddities
Inhabitant of Zion wrote: Hi I am setting up an FTP page for some of my friends to use. Only thing is it works fine for Internet Explorer but in Mozilla when you click the link you just get a new page open with what looks like raw code. I do come across this occasionally with some ftp sites. You can download using Mozilla if you right click the link and choose save target as. Anybody know what the issue is and how I get the link to the file to download to work properly under Mozilla for those lazy gits that expect to just select the link and it works. It's something about setting the mime-types. It has something to do with the helper applications thing in the preferences. I used to get that for rpms but don't any more. What version of mozilla are you running? Cheers Anton -=-=- ... This fortune intentionally left blank. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 02:19, anton wrote: What is wrong here people? Oh, that's right. WTF is rute says the complete newbie!?! The Rute users guide is a project/book aiming at a fairly good intro to whizz of Linux: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html its free but you can also buy a hard copy. It's definitely worth a look. Doesn't urpmi rute work, as well? -- Chuck Mattsen / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / RLU #346519 Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-4mdk 02:25:53 up 1:45, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.08 Those who will be able to conquer software will be able to conquer the world. -- Tadahiro Sekimoto, president, NEC Corp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin USB SDcard reader? Gphoto?
On 03/26/2004 10:12 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: As I remarked earlier, bascule, this is exactly the situation I had with my new camera and kernel 2.4.19. When 2.4.21 came along the camera was fully recognised, an sd.. device was created and mounted as /mnt/removable. That's why I suggested that he tried a later kernel. Hi Anne, I downloaded a 2.4.28 kernel (am already running 2.4.21), but that did not want to install because it needed newer bootloader-utils. I got that, and that did not want to install because of a host of dependency-issues. I'll wait for the final mdk10 to appear in may and go for that one. I already ordered the Belkin card-reader, that should get rid of all my problems. (And if it doesn't, I can send it back for free!) Thanks for the help, everyone. I really appreciate it. Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 08:19, anton wrote: I'll second the recommendation for Running Linux, which I'm currently working my way through. At times it gets a little heavy or technical for a casual user, but on the whole it does a pretty good job of explaining basic concepts in an understandable manner. For quality of content you can't beat O'Reilly books. I used (and still use) Using Linux - Que books. Mine's an old edition, but there is a more up to date one. Despite its age, it has served me well. One I regret spending money on is The Complete Reference - Linux from McGraw Hill. Every time I have tried to use it I have found myself going back to the Que book. The only time I followed it word for word I had to come back to the list, only to be told that it was wrong! And I had paid £30 for the privilege! Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZTyukFAvMr/nNX8RAgbVAJ4wfBI0QoWp1l1zfUKqgYWcWn7lowCbBR2D vm0NRYXTVFTgE5ZvHm2Nmpk= =h5AJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
Chuck Mattsen wrote: On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 02:19, anton wrote: What is wrong here people? Oh, that's right. WTF is rute says the complete newbie!?! The Rute users guide is a project/book aiming at a fairly good intro to whizz of Linux: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html its free but you can also buy a hard copy. It's definitely worth a look. Doesn't urpmi rute work, as well? Again, wtf is urpmi, and isn't it for installing apps? What do you mean you install documentation? Why do you need to install documentation? Cheers Anton -=-=- ... You have the power to influence all with whom you come in contact. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin USB SDcard reader? Gphoto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 08:31, Paul wrote: On 03/26/2004 10:12 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: As I remarked earlier, bascule, this is exactly the situation I had with my new camera and kernel 2.4.19. When 2.4.21 came along the camera was fully recognised, an sd.. device was created and mounted as /mnt/removable. That's why I suggested that he tried a later kernel. Hi Anne, I downloaded a 2.4.28 kernel (am already running 2.4.21), but that did not want to install because it needed newer bootloader-utils. I got that, and that did not want to install because of a host of dependency-issues. I'll wait for the final mdk10 to appear in may and go for that one. I already ordered the Belkin card-reader, that should get rid of all my problems. (And if it doesn't, I can send it back for free!) Where did you download from, Paul? I looked at Software Installer (Mandrake Control Center) on this system (9.1). It offered 2.4.21.0.28mdk-1-1mdk and didn't report any dependency issues. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZT4dkFAvMr/nNX8RApC1AKCca9opqgbBWpTCK3KC4nMCToLMfACcCBNZ 2GL2Vnl6N7y/cH66He0DWOs= =h1xr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 08:37, anton wrote: Again, wtf is urpmi, See http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi and isn't it for installing apps? It's for installing packages - and documentation comes in packages. What do you mean you install documentation? Why do you need to install documentation? Cheers To read? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZT6hkFAvMr/nNX8RAupIAJ9L8u/TbWT6QA8LpbcgJ5WXDbOS8ACfZyey InhtVa5Z5mKoKEGY4QmVL5M= =qOx7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 02:37, anton wrote: Again, wtf is urpmi, and isn't it for installing apps? What do you mean you install documentation? Why do you need to install documentation? For that matter, wtf is wtf (I know, but as long as we're being argumentative ... :-) -- Chuck Mattsen / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / RLU #346519 Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-4mdk 02:44:34 up 2:04, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.04 NEVER swerve to hit a lawyer riding a bicycle -- it might be your bicycle. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin USB SDcard reader? Gphoto?
On 03/27/2004 09:41 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: Where did you download from, Paul? I looked at Software Installer (Mandrake Control Center) on this system (9.1). It offered 2.4.21.0.28mdk-1-1mdk and didn't report any dependency issues. I Googled around a bit (mandrake kernel rpm) and found this one at http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1033535/com/kernel-2.4.22.28mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.html Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
On 03/27/2004 09:45 AM, Chuck Mattsen wrote: For that matter, wtf is wtf (I know, but as long as we're being argumentative ... :-) Can't be a standard command: [EMAIL PROTECTED] paul]$ man wtf No manual entry for wtf [EMAIL PROTECTED] paul]$ wtf --help bash: wtf: command not found ;-) Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?
Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or something else is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.) I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently rute and gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can recall), the first attempt to run that app from the KDE menu will result in an app crash. The second attempt (and subsequent runs) will work with no errors. This seems to be the case whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE session. Do others experience this regularly/is this common? Again, just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary, nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things, nonetheless. -- Chuck Mattsen / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / RLU #346519 Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-4mdk 02:57:30 up 2:17, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.24, 0.17 Fremen add life to spice! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?
On 03/27/2004 10:01 AM, Chuck Mattsen wrote: Do others experience this regularly/is this common? Again, just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary, nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things, nonetheless. Very strange. I have never had this happen in all my Linux life (which started in 1999...). I hope you can figure this out! Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin USB SDcard reader? Gphoto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 08:51, Paul wrote: On 03/27/2004 09:41 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: Where did you download from, Paul? I looked at Software Installer (Mandrake Control Center) on this system (9.1). It offered 2.4.21.0.28mdk-1-1mdk and didn't report any dependency issues. I Googled around a bit (mandrake kernel rpm) and found this one at http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1033535/com/kernel-2.4. 22.28mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.html It could be OK, but I'm a bit worried about that 'built for 9.x' statement. The one I found is said to come from Mandrake Update, so if you have your sources right you should be able to grab it from there, being certain that it is the right one. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZUaxkFAvMr/nNX8RAlWcAJ9OBKSc7OrE1qkOkd+LW0SYH6hReQCgjwpN CgvRav49vLErEp4yn/N+a38= =1UYz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] LG CD-rom killer problem
Is the LG cd-rom killing problem fixed in MandrakeMove 9.2 or should I not use it in LG cd rom readers? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin USB SDcard reader? Gphoto?
On 03/27/2004 10:17 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1033535/com/kernel-2.4. 22.28mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.html It could be OK, but I'm a bit worried about that 'built for 9.x' statement. The one I found is said to come from Mandrake Update, so if you have your sources right you should be able to grab it from there, being certain that it is the right one. When I look at MandrakeUpdate, it does not show me any new kernels to be installed. I am not going to venture into this any deeper, I think. I will just wait for the cardreader to arrive and get that up and running. I found several sources (on mailing lists etc) on how to get that going and that looks a straight-forward process. Thanks, Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:34:54 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 08:19, anton wrote: I'll second the recommendation for Running Linux, which I'm currently working my way through. At times it gets a little heavy or technical for a casual user, but on the whole it does a pretty good job of explaining basic concepts in an understandable manner. For quality of content you can't beat O'Reilly books. I used (and still use) Using Linux - Que books. Mine's an old edition, but there is a more up to date one. Despite its age, it has served me well. One I regret spending money on is The Complete Reference - Linux from McGraw Hill. Every time I have tried to use it I have found myself going back to the Que book. The only time I followed it word for word I had to come back to the list, only to be told that it was wrong! And I had paid £30 for the privilege! Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZTyukFAvMr/nNX8RAgbVAJ4wfBI0QoWp1l1zfUKqgYWcWn7lowCbBR2D vm0NRYXTVFTgE5ZvHm2Nmpk= =h5AJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Linux Desk Reference is at my side but the Newbie list is more fun. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Advanced Sound Program?
On Friday 26 March 2004 07:54 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Advanced Sound Program? On Friday 26 March 2004 06:39 pm, Marc Resnick wrote: Is there any sort of advanced sound/music program for Linux that can separate say the vocal track of a song from the rhythm. I don't know much about this, but basically I want to separate the drums and vocals to a few songs, so I can fill in with the guitar part. Anyone know of anything that can do this, or if it's at all possible? You can do a lot with audacity and some xmms plugins try to remove vocals. (it's just a notch filter centered on 400 hz) --Marc --- - I'd much rather keep the vocals and get rid of the guitar. Know of anything else? You could try a bandpass filter to just pass the vocal Freqs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin USB SDcard reader? Gphoto?
fair enough paul, but... it does appear that your system does not have a properly setup update source for urpmi, since 9.1 has 2.4.21-28 and 9.2 has 2.4.22-28 released, this should be a concern since it means that security updates may not be found by urpmi, i hate to sound like your grandma :) but have you checked that your source has been updated? you can do this from the gui by selecting the list of sources in mcc and choosing the update option, or from the command line by: urpmi.update --all this will update all sources this should show the kernel as an update, if it doesn't then either you don't have an update source or you need to remove the one you've got and install another one, i tend to look for alternative update sources by looking at the mandrake list of mirrors for the distribution files (not iso) and then using the browser to search up from that location for an 'updates' directory, which will usually have update files for all the current releases of mandrake bascule On Saturday 27 Mar 2004 9:31 am, Paul wrote: I am not going to venture into this any deeper, I think. I will just wait for the cardreader to arrive and get that up and running. I found several sources (on mailing lists etc) on how to get that going and that looks a straight-forward process. -- He didn't look mad, but they never did. (Strata) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
On Friday 26 March 2004 08:46 pm, Glenn wrote: On Friday 26 March 2004 20:47, William Hatfield wrote: Can someone recommend a good book on Mandrake? This stuff is confusing to me but I really like the software. Bill Hatfield www.badhatproductions.com O'Reilly's Running Linux helped me, and still remains a good reference. Also The Rute Tutorial ps download it from : http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.tar.bz2 you can also buy a hard copy from Amazon.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] need bootloader each time I start-up - how to stop?
Summary: My question now is HOW do I fix things so I don't need the bootloader each time I start-up? Details: I just installed Mandrake 10.0 and am very impressed with KDE 3.2. However, the post-install was a nightmare. This board helped me navigate a number of headaches: For example, having to insert CD2 before CD1 (How odd). I installed on a freshly formatted extra HD in my computer, as I didn't want to partition. So, I've just disconnected my XP drive and am running straight off of my second Mandrake-only drive. The install went perfectly, except for the noted CD2. HOWEVER, on reboot, I got the dreaded flashing cursor. I changed my BIOS from Auto to LBA, as suggested. However, that didn't work. Fortunately, I had made a bootloader during installation, so that got me in. My question now is HOW do I fix things so I don't need the bootloader each time I start-up? Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I'm brand new to Linux, so talk to me like I'm a Windows Lemming because I am! Thanks, -- ~Rory Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin USB SDcard reader? Gphoto?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 09:31, Paul wrote: When I look at MandrakeUpdate, it does not show me any new kernels to be installed. Sorry - I did not make myself clear. You would not find it on MU, I think, because doing it from there would update the kernel rather than installing a parallel one. It's too dangerous. I found it in the normal Software Installer, which said that it would be downloaded from Update Sources. I am not going to venture into this any deeper, I think. I will just wait for the cardreader to arrive and get that up and running. I found several sources (on mailing lists etc) on how to get that going and that looks a straight-forward process. OK - sorry it didn't work out for you, but then there comes a time when saving money and saving time have to be balanced :-) Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZVsOkFAvMr/nNX8RAposAJ9DM09zJQP2dSDh+MmvA9ZGny5D5QCffPfl iY0dSO2nJE18z4QoNzhRm28= =XdWh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
Glenn wrote: On Friday 26 March 2004 20:47, William Hatfield wrote: Can someone recommend a good book on Mandrake? This stuff is confusing to me but I really like the software. Bill Hatfield www.badhatproductions.com O'Reilly's Running Linux helped me, and still remains a good reference. ...but is a bit hard to follow for a newbie! If you are looking for something at Dummies level, but not quite so patronising, I'd recommend Marcel Gagne's Moving to Linux - Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye! ISBN 0-321-15998-5 available from Amazon. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Popfile service won't start
Hi. I followed the instructions on how to have Popfile start as a service, but it is not working. I get the error: Error while 'Fetching Mail': Could not connect to POP server 127.0.0.1 (port 110): Connection refused I made sure that Popfile and the initscript are both executable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# file popfile popfile: Bourne shell script text executable [EMAIL PROTECTED] popfile]# file popfile.pl popfile.pl: a /usr/bin/perl script text executable And I changed the directory accordingly POPFILEDIR=/usr/local/bin/popfile I also have Lynx installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] cyb]$ rpmq lynx lynx-2.8.5-0.14mdk.dev.12 Any suggestion ? TIA -- josenildo marques icq #289971493 homepage http://cyb.ezdir.net registered linux user #341648 * The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand. Lewis Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
On Saturday 27 March 2004 02:19, anton wrote: Chuck Mattsen wrote: On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 00:52, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Friday 26 March 2004 8:08 pm, William Hatfield pondered and enlightened us with: I haven't quite got the hang of how to install things on Mandrake. I downloaded the Starter Guide, but it is still like greek to me. Be patient. With time, and with some effort, it will quickly begin to resemble not Greek, but Esperanto. :*) Several books that I have used include: LINUX: THE COMPLETE REFERENCE, 5/E THE LINUX COOKBOOK LINUX ETUDES RUNNING LINUX I'll second the recommendation for Running Linux, which I'm currently working my way through. At times it gets a little heavy or technical for a casual user, but on the whole it does a pretty good job of explaining basic concepts in an understandable manner. RUTE is also good. What is wrong here people? Oh, that's right. WTF is rute says the complete newbie!?! The Rute users guide is a project/book aiming at a fairly good intro to whizz of Linux: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html its free but you can also buy a hard copy. It's definitely worth a look. I had a look at Sams RedHat 9 book and found that there was reasonably little that was different to Mandrake. Except Redhat is for goons...:-) Also worth a look if you want a massive manual to make you feel a little more secure. That said, I still know /so/ little ... yet, it's volumes more than I knew 5-6 weeks ago. Some problems I've been able to figure out on my own, others with the patient help of those here in this group, and others I still don't understand well enough to tackle ... those I've put aside for a later time when, hopefully, things will have fallen into place for me and they'll be a piece of cake. :-) One of the problems with Linux books is there current-ness. Many books offered are way out of date. Mandrake is very similar to Red Hat, so a current Red Hat book could be a good buy. But don't leave us, as there is alot of useful stuff that is not documented in books, that only we Mandrake folks know about. I'd also recommend -- being somewhat of a miser myself, and on a very limited income at the moment -- checking out the used book sources (such as Amazon, or perhaps http://www.bookfinder.com). That's what I did a few weeks back when I was first getting my Linux feet wet, and managed to pick up like-new, current editions of Running Linux, Linux Desk Reference, and Linux in a Nutshell for around $50 total, SH included. And the pundits that talk about how linux is not ready for the desktop have no idea what they are talking about. Linux has been ready for this desktop for the last 4 years. I run a 100% MS free PC. My processor has never seen MS code. Linux is certainly ready for the desktop ... I would, however, say that most (more casual) users are not ready for Linux. :-) --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -=-=- ... For thee the wonder-working earth puts forth sweet flowers. -- Titus Lucretius Carus Mandrake is an offshoot of RH therefore you might like 'Red Hat Linux 7.2 Bible' a 1040 page book that covers linux pretty well. -- Regards; Hoyt Ignore the past and you will fail! Ignore the future and you have already failed! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Popfile service won't start
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 11:17, Josenildo Marques wrote: Hi. I followed the instructions on how to have Popfile start as a service, but it is not working. I get the error: Error while 'Fetching Mail': Could not connect to POP server 127.0.0.1 (port 110): Connection refused When you say you followed instructions, Josenildo, were they the ones at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/PopFile? Mark's instructions are much simpler and clearer than the ones in the documentation, and what's more they work without any fancy footwork. An excerpt reads: # As root, make a home for POPFile: mkdir /usr/local/bin/popfile # cd to your new directory and download POPFile: wget http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/popfile/popfile-0.20.1.zip # Unzip it: unzip popfile-0.20.1.zip # Correct the permissions if need be: chmod 755 popfile.pl # Now run it: ./popfile.pl # To run POPFile automatically at boot time, add this to /etc/rc.d/rc.local: cd /usr/local/bin/popfile; ./popfile.pl Does that help? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZW7+kFAvMr/nNX8RAuNTAJ9bYWWErt7f1hY3G31PKfIYazWxTwCdFWta RS/ppvzIN5ulHwYp6OXmY74= =bSCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Quarantined Message Notification
On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01, you wrote: You have the following quarantined message(s): Queue:Harass Language Messages: 1 Queue:Spam Messages: 399 Queue:Virus Messages: 2 Queue:Blocked Files Messages: 1 Please review and delete / release these message(s). Why! -- Regards; Hoyt Ignore the past and you will fail! Ignore the future and you have already failed! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Popfile service won't start
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:09, Anne Wilson wrote: When you say you followed instructions, Josenildo, were they the ones at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/PopFile? Mark's instructions are much simpler and clearer than the ones in the documentation, and what's more they work without any fancy footwork. An excerpt reads: # As root, make a home for POPFile: mkdir /usr/local/bin/popfile # cd to your new directory and download POPFile: wget http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/popfile/popfile-0.20.1.zip # Unzip it: unzip popfile-0.20.1.zip # Correct the permissions if need be: chmod 755 popfile.pl # Now run it: ./popfile.pl # To run POPFile automatically at boot time, add this to /etc/rc.d/rc.local: cd /usr/local/bin/popfile; ./popfile.pl Does that help? Anne Yes, I followed the Twiki tutorial. I'm trying to get it to run as a service now, so I deleted that line in the rc.local file and followed what is described below on the same page. Thanks. -- josenildo marques icq #289971493 homepage http://cyb.ezdir.net registered linux user #341648 * Um livro deve ser o machado que quebra o mar gelado em nós. Franz Kafka Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Op zaterdag 27 maart 2004 11:50, schreef Margot: Can someone recommend a good book on Mandrake? This stuff is confusing to me but I really like the software. and dont forget to start your own book :-) write some weird commands in a textfile, makes them easy to find if you need them again after some time.. regards ronald - -- Registered Linux User 163597 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZXdLoPgG5kUDwJIRAhDlAKCo6TORc064cvLYGXi/Abu4fPCXeQCfYYhK xdeok+j2Y1d94gFhcNjbb4E= =FqGM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] New kernel (was: USB SDcard reader)
On 03/27/2004 11:44 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: Sorry - I did not make myself clear. You would not find it on MU, I think, because doing it from there would update the kernel rather than installing a parallel one. It's too dangerous. I found it in the normal Software Installer, which said that it would be downloaded from Update Sources. I found the newer kernel! Looking in the right place does help... *grin* So... before I blow up my box... when I select to install it: will the software installer add a new entry to lilo.conf for it, so I can select that at boottime? Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New kernel (was: USB SDcard reader)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 12:53, Paul wrote: On 03/27/2004 11:44 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: Sorry - I did not make myself clear. You would not find it on MU, I think, because doing it from there would update the kernel rather than installing a parallel one. It's too dangerous. I found it in the normal Software Installer, which said that it would be downloaded from Update Sources. I found the newer kernel! Looking in the right place does help... *grin* So... before I blow up my box... when I select to install it: will the software installer add a new entry to lilo.conf for it, so I can select that at boottime? Yes. You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot into either one. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZXm4kFAvMr/nNX8RAoWHAJ4iaNZb9MsyC5YFr4eiMEWiB5op0ACfdKvj 5epzd0W98xZxgd69POD/T4g= =8mbO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen
I'am having the same problem with Mandrake Move can't change the screen resolution. -Original Message- From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen Dear All Some windows are bigger than the screen, what causes problems with accessing the OK button. Is there any trick to overcome this difficulty? Thank you a lot in advance! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New kernel
On 03/27/2004 01:55 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes. You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot into either one. Okay. I got the new kernel installed and running. Then I plugged in the camera. /var/log/messages keeps telling me the same, no drivers or modules for the new device. No /dev/sd? device shows up. gtkam does not recognise anything as a generic ptp device. /proc/bus/usb/devices does still show the camera. So this ends up in a dead end again, from where I look at it... Thanks for the assistance, though! Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: failure notice
On Saturday 27 March 2004 06:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at cliff.kota.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 749 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2004 12:33:10 - Received: from node232.blk.kota.net (208.34.90.232) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2004 12:33:10 - From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SafeInternetEmail Threat Notifier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Quarantined Message Notification Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:09:07 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01, you wrote: You have the following quarantined message(s): Queue:Harass Language Messages: 1 Queue:Spam Messages: 399 Queue:Virus Messages: 2 Queue:Blocked Files Messages: 1 Please review and delete / release these message(s). Why! nuff said. -- Regards; Hoyt Ignore the past and you will fail! Ignore the future and you have already failed! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 13:09, Paul wrote: On 03/27/2004 01:55 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes. You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot into either one. Okay. I got the new kernel installed and running. Then I plugged in the camera. /var/log/messages keeps telling me the same, no drivers or modules for the new device. No /dev/sd? device shows up. gtkam does not recognise anything as a generic ptp device. /proc/bus/usb/devices does still show the camera. So this ends up in a dead end again, from where I look at it... Thanks for the assistance, though! I'm sorry to say that I think you're right. Better luck with the card reader Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZYK7kFAvMr/nNX8RAp2HAJ0Sx3ZUYADlrPUNsGQ3Ws1uuyGBUwCggBoC rz7l2bt6RNpHh88H4yA4MBQ= =b24J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] LG CD-rom killer problem
On Saturday 27 March 2004 04:27 am, Märt Suga wrote: Is the LG cd-rom killing problem fixed in MandrakeMove 9.2 or should I not use it in LG cd rom readers? Hopefully you applied the firmware patch that LG put out for its faulty CD-ROMS. If you have done so, and if I were you, I would apply that patch regardless of which OS I were going to run, you shouldn't have any problems. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updates to MDK 10 Community
I've got Mandrake 10 Community installed on my box and want to check for upgrades. Using the Easy URPMI site for Cooker sources, I get a lot of erroneous results (such as packages tagged installed but outdated). Is there a better source to use for updates to the Community Release? Thanks, -- Cheers, Trey --- There is an innocence in admiration; it is found in those to whom it has not yet occurred that they, too, might be admired some day. - Friedrich Nietzsche 09:51:50 up 3 days, 2:47, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.09, 0.09 Linux salamander 2.6.4 #1 SMP Wed Mar 10 23:59:57 PST 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?
On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote: Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or something else is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.) I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently rute and gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can recall), the first attempt to run that app from the KDE menu will result in an app crash. The second attempt (and subsequent runs) will work with no errors. This seems to be the case whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE session. Do others experience this regularly/is this common? Again, just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary, nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things, nonetheless. I believe it's peculiar to your system. I've run 10.0 all thru the development process to 10.0-CE, and now 10.0-OE (as of about today. Note to everybody, this is my conjecture). I read the cooker, buggzilla, and change log lists daily. I can't remember anyone mentioning such a problem. 'Bout the only thing I can suggest is to install cooker sources for RPMS/ (main) and RPMS2/ (contrib) and update to current cooker. You should then have 10.0 Official. I believe this announcement is comin next week. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 You could use 'stable' and 'stable contrib' sources, but those are just symlinked to cooker. You also might miss any last minute, post 10.0-OE updates if you use 'stable'. It will be unlinked to cooker after Official is announced. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Okay, still on the subject of e-mail signatures... (random taglines)
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:12:01AM +1100, Stephen Kuhn wrote: BTW, Todd, where the hell YOU been? Oh, I've been around, but I'm still running 9.2, and you know how it is when a new release comes out. That and my job sucks so I've been looking for a new one, and had to get ready for a presentation I gave at a conference, and I'm starting a business offering web-based surveys (hosted on a usermode linux setup running RedHat, so I had to learn some RH stuff), taught a night class last quarter, a Saturday workshop here and there, got another night class this quarter, and the wife and kids still seem to want to spend time with me. That and all the free music, movies, and porn out there really eats up your time! Oh, don't forget March madness! Glad to see you back! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?
On Saturday 27 March 2004 09:03, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote: Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or something else is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.) I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently rute and gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can recall), the first attempt to run that app from the KDE menu will result in an app crash. The second attempt (and subsequent runs) will work with no errors. This seems to be the case whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE session. Do others experience this regularly/is this common? Again, just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary, nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things, nonetheless. I believe it's peculiar to your system. I've run 10.0 all thru the development process to 10.0-CE, and now 10.0-OE (as of about today. Note to everybody, this is my conjecture). I read the cooker, buggzilla, and change log lists daily. I can't remember anyone mentioning such a problem. 'Bout the only thing I can suggest is to install cooker sources for RPMS/ (main) and RPMS2/ (contrib) and update to current cooker. You should then have 10.0 Official. I believe this announcement is comin next week. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 You could use 'stable' and 'stable contrib' sources, but those are just symlinked to cooker. You also might miss any last minute, post 10.0-OE updates if you use 'stable'. It will be unlinked to cooker after Official is announced. I don't know if you would consider it the same or simular even. After this install of 9.2, I had updated and clicked on mozilla didn't work so I tried galeon didn't work, don't remember the reason, went to kmail it worked. After that went back to mozilla and galeon and they both worked. No idea why. -- Regards; Hoyt Ignore the past and you will fail! Ignore the future and you have already failed! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Popfile service won't start
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:09, Anne Wilson wrote: When you say you followed instructions, Josenildo, were they the ones at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/PopFile? Mark's instructions are much simpler and clearer than the ones in the documentation, and what's more they work without any fancy footwork. An excerpt reads: # As root, make a home for POPFile: mkdir /usr/local/bin/popfile # cd to your new directory and download POPFile: wget http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/popfile/popfile-0.20.1.zip # Unzip it: unzip popfile-0.20.1.zip # Correct the permissions if need be: chmod 755 popfile.pl # Now run it: ./popfile.pl # To run POPFile automatically at boot time, add this to /etc/rc.d/rc.local: cd /usr/local/bin/popfile; ./popfile.pl Does that help? I started it from scratch and it is working now. Thank you. -- josenildo marques icq #289971493 homepage http://cyb.ezdir.net registered linux user #341648 * A sociedade moderna burguesa não aboliu os antagonismos de classe. Apenas estabeleceu novas classes, novas condições de opressão, novas formas de luta em lugar das velhas. Karl Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:07, Chuck Mattsen wrote: I'd also recommend -- being somewhat of a miser myself, and on a very limited income at the moment -- checking out the used book sources (such as Amazon, or perhaps http://www.bookfinder.com). Don't overlook public libraries. I live in a small town in a mostly agricultural county and our county library system has all of the books mentioned and then some. Titles I can't get through the county system, the librarians will order through inter-library-loan for me. Being able to read or leaf through a book before purchasing can save many dollars. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen
On Saturday 27 March 2004 06:57 am, Beavers, Randy W. wrote: I'am having the same problem with Mandrake Move can't change the screen resolution. I tested in MMove's development, and filed a ML bug report on just this issue. I don't believe it ever got fixed. I got the impression they couldn't fix it, without breakin other monitor's configuration. BTW the same problem exists in the main distro if you don't configure your monitor and resolution during installs. IMO, drakx is mistakenly reading what the monitor's ID reports to it. For example, my 19 Samsung LCD (from excerpt 'ddcxinfos') 30-81 kHz HorizSync 56-85 Hz VertRefresh 20.85 inches monitor (truly 19.31') EISA ID=SAM0080 It seems to be usin 20.85, and not the actual screen size, 19.3 This causes it (for me) to select 1600x1200 instead of the correct (native) 1280x1024 resolution for my monitor. This results in the desktop being larger than the screen. For MMove, you can either use Ctrl+Alt +/- to change resolution, or run 'XFdrake' to set the resolution properly. Much as you should do during a Mandrake install. The problem with MMove, is that unless you use the CD along with a USB storage device, your changes will be lost when you quit MMove. -Original Message- From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen Dear All Some windows are bigger than the screen, what causes problems with accessing the OK button. Is there any trick to overcome this difficulty? Thank you a lot in advance! Paul Sorry Paul, if I understand your problem correctly, I've never seen/had it. Except with a very few non-Mandrake applications (rpms). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Test - is anyone getting this?
I'm not sure if my posts are going through to the list. Can someone reply if it is actually getting through? -john smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updates to MDK 10 Community
On Saturday 27 March 2004 08:52 am, Trey Sizemore wrote: I've got Mandrake 10 Community installed on my box and want to check for upgrades. Using the Easy URPMI site for Cooker sources, I get a lot of erroneous results (such as packages tagged installed but outdated). Is there a better source to use for updates to the Community Release? Thanks, It could be Easy Urpmi hasn't been updated and is givin you incorrect mirror URL's. Try adding a source, on the CL, from http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 and check mirror status at http://manu.agat.net/mandrake/mirrors_state.html Avoid US mirrors. Northern European are probly the best. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Test - is anyone getting this?
On Saturday 27 March 2004 08:22 am, John Smith wrote: I'm not sure if my posts are going through to the list. Can someone reply if it is actually getting through? No the're not getting through ;-) -john smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need bootloader each time I start-up - how to stop?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On March 27, 2004 02:58 am, Rory wrote: Summary: My question now is HOW do I fix things so I don't need the bootloader each time I start-up? Well, that depends on whether you ever want to run Windows again or not. Or whether you ever plan to install any (possible) update kernels to use, and still be able to boot a working kernel if a newer one blows up in your face. Or whether you want to add a different GNU/Linux distribution or not. Any of these cases will require a re-write of the (a) bootloader, hard drive or removable media. The bootloader (please think about that word) is how you decide which installed operating system you want when you first start your system. It's also useful in some extreme circumstances for rescue and diagnostic tasks. There are many reasons to have a bootloader before the system starts an operating system. Details: I just installed Mandrake 10.0 and am very impressed with KDE 3.2. However, the post-install was a nightmare. This board helped me navigate a number of headaches: For example, having to insert CD2 before CD1 (How odd). Substandard drive behaviour. It will be fixed (worked around actually... probably...) before the ISOs for Mandrake 10 Official Edition is announced. I installed on a freshly formatted extra HD in my computer, as I didn't want to partition. So, I've just disconnected my XP drive and am running straight off of my second Mandrake-only drive. If you reconnect the XP drive how will you ever boot to Mandrake if you don't install the (a) bootloader in the MBR of the primary master drive? Think about what you're asking here. There are choices even within GNU/Linux for flavours of bootloaders. Plus you could (maybe) use the NT-loader provided by Windows. Believe it or not that's much more trouble than Grub or LiLo or one of the other available bootloaders. The install went perfectly, except for the noted CD2. HOWEVER, on reboot, I got the dreaded flashing cursor. I changed my BIOS from Auto to LBA, as suggested. However, that didn't work. Read the above comment. A bootloader has to be installed to control which operating system is called from hard drive to run. The LBA issue and the trouble with LiLo in your case may have no relation at all since the bootloader wasn't installed in the first drive. Fortunately, I had made a bootloader during installation, so that got me in. You must mean a boot disk here. Good, at least you can boot to a working system. My question now is HOW do I fix things so I don't need the bootloader each time I start-up? If you ever want to do any of the things mentioned above you can't really. The choices have to be presented to you at boot time or you'll never be able to pick the operating system you want to run, pick an updated configuration within that operating system, etc. Whether you do this from a removable disk or from the primary hard drive is irrelevant. No bootloader means no choices, period. Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I'm brand new to Linux, so talk to me like I'm a Windows Lemming because I am! Thanks, I hope you find some benefit from this response. Now I have a request for you. Please don't set a Reply To: in your K-Mail client, since the Mandrake lists are archived and answers to questions should be available to all. While the answers you get are (hopefully) of benefit to you they may also help a lurker or someone looking for an answer in one of the list archives scattered around the 'Net. Thanks. How's the weather in T.O. anyway? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. -- Frank Zappa -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZbBKZqvqlrLPr5YRAtSqAJ90tVBvyK/V22C9O/43KnjVMQsbQQCffdZ3 9fuYRCOnMPu25/npMJl1OE0= =YUse -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Problem developing
I am running 9.2. Using konqueror (root) transfering mp3 files from CD to /music. Everyting was going well when the file transfer protocol was lost, I used the logout icon to exit to the login screen (KDM). The system attempted to start KDM several times but it did not start so I was dumped to a text terminal (CLI) where I loged in as root and did a shutdown -r now, the system hung after issuing the system is going down for reboot message. I did a master reset and it came back up after checking the filesystem. Thats where I am now and the way its going to go is this will work for a while and finally something will happen that I cant fix and I'll have to reinstall. Help? -- Regards; Hoyt Ignore the past and you will fail! Ignore the future and you have already failed! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:03, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote: Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or something else is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.) I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently rute and gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can recall), the first attempt to run that app from the KDE menu will result in an app crash. The second attempt (and subsequent runs) will work with no errors. This seems to be the case whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE session. Do others experience this regularly/is this common? Again, just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary, nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things, nonetheless. I believe it's peculiar to your system. I've run 10.0 all thru the development process to 10.0-CE, and now 10.0-OE (as of about today. Note to everybody, this is my conjecture). I read the cooker, buggzilla, and change log lists daily. I can't remember anyone mentioning such a problem. 'Bout the only thing I can suggest is to install cooker sources for RPMS/ (main) and RPMS2/ (contrib) and update to current cooker. You should then have 10.0 Official. I believe this announcement is comin next week. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 You could use 'stable' and 'stable contrib' sources, but those are just symlinked to cooker. You also might miss any last minute, post 10.0-OE updates if you use 'stable'. It will be unlinked to cooker after Official is announced. Actually, I've already got cooker sources in place and keep current with the updates. Again, though, it's just one of those first-time crash things, and it never happens again (for that app). I /suspect/ it might be wrapped up in the menuing or something (I should try a first run of a program from Konsole next time to see if I get the same result and/or to watch for errors, just to see). Other than this niggling little thing -- which I've come to expect now -- everything seems rock solid. thx. -- Chuck Mattsen / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / RLU #346519 Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-4mdk 11:05:18 up 7 min, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.36, 0.24 Television is now so desperately hungry for material that it is scraping the top of the barrel. -- Gore Vidal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SATA Promise 378 /
I am running on a ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe board with a hard disk on primary slave, a dvd and CDRW on Secondary master and slave, two more SATA drives on ICH5R and all is well. Except the two drives on the promise PATA controller. Mandrake sees the controller but doesn't detect the drives. Windows works fine and everyone is happy. Does anybody have any suggestion on how to see my other two drives? Thanks __ http://www.webmail.co.za/dialup Webmail ISP - Cool Connection, Cool Price Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] digital camera / 2.4 kernel
Hi, A thread in the archives suggests that my Fuji camera is not fully supported in the 2.6 kernel. It also suggests that the 2.4 kernel supplied with LM10 does a better job. (LM9.1 supported it flawlessly) Is there absolutely no way to have the camera on 2.6? If not, what is the easiest way to downgrade to the 2.4? tia, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)
On Friday 26 March 2004 10:24 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 10:08, bascule wrote: try using echo -e and using \\n to represent a newline, thus: #bin bash echo -e Chuck Mattsen ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Mahnomen, MN \\n echo -e Registered Linux User #346519 \\n echo -e `cat /etc/mandrake-release` kernel `uname -r` \\n echo `uptime` Now /that/ looks familiar; similar to the way my random sig quotes file needed to be formatted for Pegasus, back in my Windows days. Will have to try that, as well. Thx. If I read the thread correctly you want to have a sig similiar to mine? If so, why not use a little perl script called makesig.pl If you want it I'll send it over or just google/linux for it. Chris -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 4:46pm up 1 day, 23:10, 4 users, load average: 0.77, 0.66, 0.58 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome Wallpaper
Me too. My Konqueror browser stalled...I had to use xkill.
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 23:15, Stephen Reynolds wrote:
I'm using MDK 10, but can't find/google any gnome specific wallpaper,
anybody have some links to gnome wallpaper.
Steve
On the Gnome site (http://www.gnome.org) there are links to artwork for
Gnome - but much better wp's at www.deviantart.com
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Re: [newbie] Test - is anyone getting this?
On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 02:22 am, many eyes viewed John Smith's words:- I'm not sure if my posts are going through to the list. Can someone reply if it is actually getting through? -john smith This is through. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 + Even a fool knows that he cannot touch the stars, but it doesn't stop a wise man from trying. -Harry Anderson This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Scanner 3570c not working
I have poked around on Google and the forums and don't seem to find anyway to make this scanner work. I looked at XSANE and it was not listed as supported. Anyone have any ideas on how to get it to work. I'm running 9.2 BTW. Thanks Steve Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] slow modem start with kppp
Hello all Since a recent reinstall of ML9.1, there is a 60 second delay before the modem responds to the initial opening of the dialer. I have tried to adjust the sensible things in the modem setup, and after making adjustments it seems to work immediately, but then next time I try to log on I have to wait. Dial-up is bad enough, without a minutes thumb-twiddling before it dials. Any thoughts, please? Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: dialup networking problem
Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 24 Mar 2004 12:46, Russell Butler wrote: Dear all, Sorry if this is in the archives, but I could not find anything immediately relevant. Reinstall of Mandrake 9.1, have set up shorewall(2.0) firewall and have local network/samba/cups running (sigh). Dialup works in the sense of being able to connect to my ISP, but no access to the net and pinging the nameserver in resolv.conf gives Destination host unreachable Previously I had found this happened when the default Drake.conf firewall setting was anything other than Allow everything but now no joy. Dear all Working again! I did put your route configuration in, Derek, but no definite benefit seen. I happened to click on the details of the kppp icon and noted that the remote address shown there was not the one shown in resolv.conf as nameserver and could be pinged successfully. Reinstalled shorewall and carefully set up in accordance with the Two-interface sample, modified for Samba and now all is well. I also deleted the gateway setting for the DNS Client and I suspect that may have been the problem. Have another minor problem, but will start another thread for that Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 16:47, Chris wrote: If I read the thread correctly you want to have a sig similiar to mine? If so, why not use a little perl script called makesig.pl If you want it I'll send it over or just google/linux for it. I'll Google it and take a look, thanks. I managed to get mine working, including the tagline/'fortune' ... I can still only use others' fortunes, however, as all attempts to compile my own via the strfile command have failed, yielding just one big file instead of individual taglines. Not sure what's up with that, but figuring that out is currently on my e-mail client wish/to-do list. :-) -- Chuck Mattsen / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / RLU #346519 Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-4mdk 18:22:25 up 44 min, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.08, 0.02 If you took all of the grains of sand in the world, and lined them up end to end in a row, you'd be working for the government! -- Mr. Interesting Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] test
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Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:13:58 -0500 Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of a sudden my monitor goes in to sleep or suspended mode, I have turned this off in kde, gnome, xscreensaver, the bios, looked in mcc and This started a few months ago with my 6 yr old Nokia 447W monitor. I could not keep it from happening, and came to the conclusion it was a hardware problem, especially since getting it to come back was extremely difficult. It would go off during the most inopportune times, like in the middle of typing an email :(. I ended up solving the problem by getting a used monitor (a 17 NEC) for $50 ;). Dan Gordon -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:04:48 -0500 Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehehe you know it really does not matter, it just never did this before. I have been running 9.2 since it came out and always woke up to Now that you mention it, 10.0 here used to come up with the Tux saver, but now just goes to black screen after a predetermined time. But at least now I can always tap the spacebar or move the mouse and get the screen back, while before, doing that was very difficult and I ended up blaming the monitor. Recently, however, I've seen the opposite effect -- the screen can be blanked and all of a sudden, without any external stimuli, the screen pops back on. Dan Gordon -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] slow modem start with kppp
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:59 pm, many eyes viewed Russell Butler's words:- Hello all Since a recent reinstall of ML9.1, there is a 60 second delay before the modem responds to the initial opening of the dialer. I have tried to adjust the sensible things in the modem setup, and after making adjustments it seems to work immediately, but then next time I try to log on I have to wait. Dial-up is bad enough, without a minutes thumb-twiddling before it dials. Any thoughts, please? Russell You may have to tweak your initialisation strings on the modem itself. Bring the dialling speed back a bit from the default in dialling commands, I use 45 and it works here in Oz, might even go faster. Don't overdo it. Use the modem terminal in KPPP Oh sorry, is that what you're using? If not, then please disregard. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 + Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement anon This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 04:47:40PM -0600, Chris wrote: On Friday 26 March 2004 10:24 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 10:08, bascule wrote: try using echo -e and using \\n to represent a newline, thus: #bin bash echo -e Chuck Mattsen ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Mahnomen, MN \\n echo -e Registered Linux User #346519 \\n echo -e `cat /etc/mandrake-release` kernel `uname -r` \\n echo `uptime` Now /that/ looks familiar; similar to the way my random sig quotes file needed to be formatted for Pegasus, back in my Windows days. Will have to try that, as well. Thx. If I read the thread correctly you want to have a sig similiar to mine? If so, why not use a little perl script called makesig.pl If you want it I'll send it over or just google/linux for it. I am interested in makesig.pl so I grabbed the rpm and installed it. I just type makesig.pl at the command line and it just hangs there doing nothing it seems. There's not much documentation on how to use it.How does it work? -- Chad Y. (aka skidley) Registered Linux User #195191 Linux 2.6.3-7mdk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)
On Saturday 27 March 2004 10:51 pm, skidley wrote: If I read the thread correctly you want to have a sig similiar to mine? If so, why not use a little perl script called makesig.pl If you want it I'll send it over or just google/linux for it. I am interested in makesig.pl so I grabbed the rpm and installed it. I just type makesig.pl at the command line and it just hangs there doing nothing it seems. There's not much documentation on how to use it.How does it work? Did you make a sig file? I'm using Kmail and heres what I have setup for my signature: In my setup I have Obtain signature from output of command Then the command is: /home/chris/makesig.pl-0.0.9/makesig.pl sig.txt Below is my sig.txt file: beginconfig( maxlines=20 footerfile=uptime| sigdashes=yes )endconfig Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 11:06pm up 2 days, 5:30, 4 users, load average: 0.13, 0.39, 0.43 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Signature Scripts (WAS: Re: [newbie] Steve's second question of the day. Time machine has been up)
What I want to know is can you add something to the code of your sig.txt at I guess footerfile= that will effectively do the same as this: #bin bash echo `cat /etc/mandrake-release` kernel `uname -r` -- John Willby Oxon GLASS rep Registered Linux user number 321644 ICQ: 92791912 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: vicarofwibley Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam - No Gates, no Windows, Apache inside. 08:38:38 up 11:36, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
