Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
and BTW, for whatever reason, I don't see any of my girlfriends posts - y'all seem to have seen them, but not me (er, that could be a good thing I reckon) (g) stephen kuhn - owner thats prolly cuz there are none I´m juz lurking around keeping an eye on yu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 3:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Besides, I'm a traditionalist; sendmail has been part of *NIX for quite a long time and well, I don't see why it SHOULDN'T be used because of it's, well, age...(g) You don't bother with the M4 macros then, Stephen? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ SHE MADE ME
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 18:30, Tina wrote: and BTW, for whatever reason, I don't see any of my girlfriends posts - y'all seem to have seen them, but not me (er, that could be a good thing I reckon) (g) stephen kuhn - owner thats prolly cuz there are none I´m juz lurking around keeping an eye on yu Woman: Can't live with'em - and - can't live with'em Can't live with'em - and - can't kill'em Can't live with'em - and - can't sell'em stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The human animal differs from the lesser primates in his passion for lists of Ten Best. -- H. Allen Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Another Xfce convert!
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 4:59 am, Marv Boyes wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 12:09, Marv Boyes wrote: My only gripe is that I can't figure out how to make a particular window always on top-- it's the one feature of KDE I really miss. Xfce's panel will do it; does anybody know if there's a way to make a window do it, as well? RIGHT-CLICK on the title bar, choose STICK Naw, all that does is slap the window up across all of my workspaces. What I meant was, is there any way to have one particular window always on top, no matter which window I'm working in? For example: under KDE, I could have, say, a terminal window open and set it to Always on top, then type something in another window while reading output from the terminal window, which would never be covered by another window (think Xfce's panel layer set to Top). If you set focus to follow the mouse, then the window with focus doesn't move up the stack until you click in it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 19:04, Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 3:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Besides, I'm a traditionalist; sendmail has been part of *NIX for quite a long time and well, I don't see why it SHOULDN'T be used because of it's, well, age...(g) You don't bother with the M4 macros then, Stephen? The only M4 I use is outside of Sydney. (g) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Death didn't answer. He was looking at Spold in the same way as a dog looks at a bone, only in this case things were more or less the other way around. -- Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] default browser
Where do I set the default browswer to use for embeded links for kmail in mdk 10? It is currently set as mozilla and I'd much prefer konqueror. TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] default browser
On Sunday 25 April 2004 12:51, Paul Kaplan wrote: Where do I set the default browswer to use for embeded links for kmail in mdk 10? It is currently set as mozilla and I'd much prefer konqueror. TIA Paul Simple, in the K Menu: Configuration -- KDE -- Components -- File Associations enter html at the Find box. Click the plus sign by the 'text' entry, clich the 'html' entry and move up the browser of your choice... Good Luck, ::. Amichai Rotman The Jerusalem Linux Club - Founder. UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 --- PLEASE READ: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 10:15 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 19:04, Richard Urwin wrote: On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 3:58 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Besides, I'm a traditionalist; sendmail has been part of *NIX for quite a long time and well, I don't see why it SHOULDN'T be used because of it's, well, age...(g) You don't bother with the M4 macros then, Stephen? The only M4 I use is outside of Sydney. (g) Good for you. I was doing that on SunOS4.1 I selected Postfix for Linux without a backward glance. Check out the first paragraph of chapter 18 of the Linux Network Admins Guide. (tldp or O'Reilly) I knew the M4 ran from London to Swansea, I didn't know it went as far as Sydney. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] default browser
That certainly causes konqueror to open, but I then get an error message: The file or folder URL does not exist. However, if I clear the dialog box and then click on the Go button, I am taken to URL. Shouldn't I be able to get right through to the URL? P On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:54 am, Amichai Rotman wrote: On Sunday 25 April 2004 12:51, Paul Kaplan wrote: Where do I set the default browswer to use for embeded links for kmail in mdk 10? It is currently set as mozilla and I'd much prefer konqueror. TIA Paul Simple, in the K Menu: Configuration -- KDE -- Components -- File Associations enter html at the Find box. Click the plus sign by the 'text' entry, clich the 'html' entry and move up the browser of your choice... Good Luck, ::. Amichai Rotman The Jerusalem Linux Club - Founder. UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 --- PLEASE READ: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
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[newbie] Windows LiLo
Hi all. Until a week ago, Windows used to share my HDD alongside Linux. Then, last weekend, MS-DOS decided it was going to ruin my Linux install (with a little help from me inadvertently I guess!). I have tried to survive without a Windows partition, but In reality, I cant. I have loaded up 98 onto an old 2GB I have lying around, and have installed it in the box, as a slave drive. Now the fun bit. DiskDrake is seeing it, and calling it /dev/hdd1. When I set LiLo to boot from this, it doesent happen. Probably because the drive isnt mounted at this point?? Any Ideas how I can configure the boot loader to pick it up, and boot into Windows from this drive? I flatly refuse to let Linux and Windows co-exist on the same drive anymore!! (if I could find Linux versions of the software I got, I would forget it totally!). JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 12:01:27 up 4 min, 1 user, load average: 2.04, 1.35, 0.57 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 19:57, Richard Urwin wrote: Good for you. I was doing that on SunOS4.1 I selected Postfix for Linux without a backward glance. Check out the first paragraph of chapter 18 of the Linux Network Admins Guide. (tldp or O'Reilly) When I upgrade this workstation/server to MDK 10 I'm actually planning on making the move to postfix; just trying to plan the work and work the plan as it were - but still going to maintain sendmail on my RH boxes for clients...(don't want to break what's not broken) I knew the M4 ran from London to Swansea, I didn't know it went as far as Sydney. Well, being a former British Colony, I tend to reckon that the Aussies decided on using M as a highway designator just out of tradition (I could be wrong and most likely probably am); I see heaps of British hold-over and tradition here (especially in like Sydney street layouts, building architecture and the likes). It'd be a long wet drive from London to Sydney... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It seems these two guys, George and Harry, set out in a Hot Air balloon to cross the United States. After forty hours in the air, George turned to Harry, and said, Harry, I think we've drifted off course! We need to find out where we are. Harry cools the air in the balloon, and they descend to below the cloud cover. Slowly drifting over the countryside, George spots a man standing below them and yells out, Excuse me! Can you please tell me where we are? The man on the ground yells back, You're in a balloon, approximately fifty feet in the air! George turns to Harry and says, Well, that man *must* be a lawyer. Replies Harry, How can you tell?. Because the information he gave us is 100% accurate, and totally useless! That's the end of The Joke, but for you people who are still worried about George and Harry: they end up in the drink, and make the front page of the New York Times: Balloonists Soaked by Lawyer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 21:06, JRH wrote: Hi all. Until a week ago, Windows used to share my HDD alongside Linux. Then, last weekend, MS-DOS decided it was going to ruin my Linux install (with a little help from me inadvertently I guess!). I have tried to survive without a Windows partition, but In reality, I cant. I have loaded up 98 onto an old 2GB I have lying around, and have installed it in the box, as a slave drive. Now the fun bit. DiskDrake is seeing it, and calling it /dev/hdd1. When I set LiLo to boot from this, it doesent happen. Probably because the drive isnt mounted at this point?? Any Ideas how I can configure the boot loader to pick it up, and boot into Windows from this drive? I flatly refuse to let Linux and Windows co-exist on the same drive anymore!! (if I could find Linux versions of the software I got, I would forget it totally!). JRH After you edited the /etc/lilo.conf - did you re-run lilo? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Fakir, n: A psychologist whose charismatic data have inspired almost religious devotion in his followers, even though the sources seem to have shinnied up a rope and vanished. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ARTICLE: Does this bloke work for Microsoft FUD specialists?
JoePill, I know you'll dig this one...ahem... http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/235 stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The wages of sin are high but you get your money's worth. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows LiLo
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 12:28, Stephen Kuhn wrote: JRH After you edited the /etc/lilo.conf - did you re-run lilo? Ahh hold up Stephen. I used the GUI tool to alter things. looks like it hasnt saved it! I've noticed it has a habit of doing stuff like that, for example, when I copy my ADSL modem firmware across in drakconnect, it will copy from the floppy, but wont actually save it to the relevant folder. you have to do it manually! That looks like what has happened here... oh well, best VI it then! JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 12:44:03 up 46 min, 1 user, load average: 0.69, 0.86, 1.23 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ SHE MADE ME
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:06:11 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woman: Can't live with'em - and - can't live with'em Can't live with'em - and - can't kill'em Can't live with'em - and - can't sell'em man women segmentation fault (core dumped) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] APT for Mandrake
I have downloaded APT from Mandrake10 Contrib, and have tried to get it working. It attempts to access the APT repository at Sunet, but says it can't. Does anyone know if APT is now back with Mandrake? It used to be and then disappeared. If so, where is the repository, please? Even if it does work, there may be no packages from it, which are not available from the urpmi sources. I though it was worth looking at, though. Many thanks Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ SHE MADE ME
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 21:50, Anders Lind wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:06:11 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woman: Can't live with'em - and - can't live with'em Can't live with'em - and - can't kill'em Can't live with'em - and - can't sell'em man women segmentation fault (core dumped) [05:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ man butt No manual entry for butt stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Nothing recedes like success. -- Walter Winchell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Windows and LiLo
Stephen, Did as you suggested, and still no joy! I select windows at the lilo screen, and it just hangs there now have to use the reset switch to get it back again. I have pasted my lilo.conf file contents below. Doubtless to say, I'm doing something wrong here... but what?? :-) Feel free to have a look, and make any mods as you see fot, if you think it would help me! JRH # File generated by DrakX/drakboot # WARNING: do not forget to run lilo after modifying this file boot=/dev/hda default=linux prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw disk=/dev/hdd bios=0x81 image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 read-only other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 devfs=nomount read-only image=/dev/hdd label=windows root=/dev/hdd -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 13:18:38 up 5 min, 1 user, load average: 1.09, 1.11, 0.52 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] (OT) Brother MFC-8500
Anyone have experience with this multi-function printer/fax, etc with 9.2 or 10. My fax died Friday and I can pick this one up cheap. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.
Lanman wrote: Frankie; Heads Up! frankieh wrote: Lanman wrote: FrankieH; Don't forget that Linux is gaining a lot of popularity and momentum. That alone, will push a lot of software companies to seriously consider coming out with re-worked versions of their apps, and many are already doing exactly that. Yes, I think the fact that Macromedia are looking into it is a big win. They won't be the last. In many cases, well-estasblished apps written for Linux years ago have been improving by leaps and bounds, and as people start to migrate over to Linux, they'll start depending on those apps, instead of seeking commercial or proprietary ones. no arguements there. One last thing here. One of Microsoft's long term goals is to migrate most of their apps to web-based systems which will be sold as subscription services - ie; Microsoft Office. That's one of their prime reasons for coming up with dotNet. I totally disagree with this.. it may have once been the goal, before linux got where it is now. but it aint the goal anymore.. .net and C# were created to stop Java becoming the defacto enterprise development platform, something that would have taken it out of M$'s hands once they found out they couldn't make their own version of Java without having to pay their profits to Sun.. They can't afford to make Office a by the web subscription service that will run on any platfrom.. because that will totally remove the need for windows, and windows is still a huge M$ cash cow. Not necessarily. Microsoft now needs to put some effort into protecting their cash cows, and Windows isn't one anymore. Notice that they either spout a lot of releases or they take a long time to release a newer version. That's because they either view a relase as a Hit or a Miss According to their last statement, Office and windows still make up the majority of the money they are reporting to their shareholders. Not only that, but without Windows to push though stuff like .NET or DRM etc, they would just be another voice in the crowd, they wouldn't like that at all.. I stand by what I said, the windows monopoly is worth running at a loss to MS (which it is nowhere near doing.) because of the force they can exert with it.. thats not likely to change anytime soon. Now it's their server versions and licenses, as well as Office that have become the cash cows, except that the server versions are taking a serious hit from Linux and so are their license sales. In order to get past the poor history that Windows has had, they'll be starting to move to a Light Windows install, with a large block of apps only available via the web. Have you read their last shareholders report??? Windows still makes a big lump of M$'s revenue. Not as much as office, but not that far behind either. (Mostly OEM sales of windows to manufacturers.) Much like you pointed out below with Mozilla, you'll still need their browser to access the applications, or a plugin for other browsers, much the same way that Microsoft made Office, Outlook Express and Internet Explorer versions for iMac's. IE for mac has been discontinued.. it is not released anymore, Safari (based on Konquerors KHTML) is the defacto browser for OSX. If that is correct, expect everyone to start paying for it one way or another, assuming that they want those features and applications. many consumers ( hell Most of them ) won;t have a choice but to continue on with whatever M$ spews out of their Willy Wonka factories! Besides, as in the past, many of the big PC producers wull Bundle this stuff into their systems - no matter which OS it runs. By manipulating that cross-platform type of architecture, Microsoft can go a long way towards getting rid of a bunch of anti-trust lawsuits, and by selling or licensing the technology out to it's competitors and partner companies. We are talking about a company that has had a monopoly for 20 years, you think they will remove windows from the equation and just try and push though on .net sales of applications??? Don't you think thats alittle to open and fair for the microsoft we all know??? If you remove the OS, then M$ doesn't have a platform to push though new proprietry technology. They're after a 100% market share, and they also want to cash in on Linux, MacOS, and anything else that gets popular. Yes, but not untill they know they are in the prime position.. and that won't be for a while yet. mark my words, if Office is an online service in Longhorn, it will be a windows only affair. The Mono project is just M$ paying lip service to the open operability thing, if you think it will be allowed to ever run Office on linux machines (without a court case saying it has to.) then you need your head read. Allowed ?? Who needs to allow it? Microsoft needs permission? C'Mon! No dude, you misunderstand,,, what I am saying is that M$ won't allow Mono to every be as good or complete as the windows version, they
Re: [newbie] Windows and LiLo
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:21, JRH wrote: Stephen, Did as you suggested, and still no joy! I select windows at the lilo screen, and it just hangs there now have to use the reset switch to get it back again. I have pasted my lilo.conf file contents below. Doubtless to say, I'm doing something wrong here... but what?? :-) Feel free to have a look, and make any mods as you see fot, if you think it would help me! As below - try this modification: image=/dev/hdd label=windows root=/dev/hdd1 * Save the file * Rerun lilo See if that does the trick...BUT... Bear in mind, though, that Windows does NOT like to be installed nor booted from any other partition than the first partition on the primary drive - good ol' Microsoft, ay? What I've always done to make SURE that Windows and linux can live happily together is to create my partitions first, install Windows first, then in the remaining space install linux - that way, Microsoft can have the damn first partition on the primary drive and thence be a happy slugpuppy without further issue. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- You know what I'd really, really like? What I'd pay MONEY for? A ZX81 with a disc drive. I *understood* the ZX81. It was so easy to interface stuff to it. (alt.fan.pratchett) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 00:10, frankieh wrote: I was a big redhat fan from 4.x to 6.2, then I changed to mandake and haven't looked back. 1.) This is an ancient ancient post sorry, dude, sympa apparently sucks. 2.) I started with Slackware 1, then RH Haloween I started on slackware as well, but became a RH convert around 4.2ish. 3.) This is an ancient post So I hear, I vaguely remember it actually, I am pretty sure I answered much the same way the last time you posted it. 4.) I wouldn't touch any RH below 9 at this point, and am still running MDK 9.1 considering doing a total blow-out to 10CE... I ran 10CE for a while, and have since upgraded it to official... it rocks. 5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah! No accounting for Taste or Logic apparently :-) stephen kuhn - owner -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Access Denied
At 11:26 PM 4/24/04, Aron Smith wrote: On Saturday 24 April 2004 08:09 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Saturday 24 April 2004 07:45 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 10:12, Aron Smith wrote: Wheel sudo? User the MCC User Manager to put yourself into the group called wheel and then edit your /etc/sudoers file so that you're able to run sudo if you can't already. there is no group called wheel in groups my bad I found it and added myself still cannot write to the directorys on the mp3 player now about the sudo? Isn't a logoff/logon required after this change? What are permissions on the files in /mnt/removable? use 'ls -l'. sudo only allows you to run a specific list of commands as if you were superuser without actually login as superuser (root). Not likely to help you in this case. You will need to know how to use vi editor to make the change though (if you don't know vi, don't try this). Open a shell, then enter: su - [enter su password here] visudo Add the following line to the end of file: %wheelALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/cp save changes. logoff root. As yourself try copying files with: sudo cp /mnt/removable/somfile [target] Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ SHE MADE ME
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 21:50, Anders Lind wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:06:11 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woman: Can't live with'em - and - can't live with'em Can't live with'em - and - can't kill'em Can't live with'em - and - can't sell'em man women segmentation fault (core dumped) [05:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ man butt No manual entry for butt stephen kuhn - owner Your a sick puppy Stephen, I'm proud of you welcome to australia. -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:38, frankieh wrote: 5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah! No accounting for Taste or Logic apparently :-) Ahem - er, Frankie, remember to what country I moved...eh? ...care to restate that? (g) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Anything created must necessarily be inferior to the essence of the creator. -- Claude Shouse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Einstein's mother must have been one heck of a physicist. -- Joseph C. Wang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Brother MFC-8500
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 18:33, Lee Wiggers wrote: Anyone have experience with this multi-function printer/fax, etc with 9.2 or 10. My fax died Friday and I can pick this one up cheap. Lee sarcasm biNO/b/i /sarcasm stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Choose two: (A) Fast (B) Efficient (C) Stable (D) Windows 98 (counts as two) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ SHE MADE ME
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:44, franki wrote: [05:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ man butt No manual entry for butt stephen kuhn - owner Your a sick puppy Stephen, I'm proud of you Thought about that on the last visit to King's Cross in Sydney...on the train...tried to hide the chuckling and snickering...was waiting to be able to use it...heheheh... welcome to australia. Ta mate. Permanent resident indefinitely! (In 2006 I can apply for citizenship) Hooroo! stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year. I will live in the Past, the Present, and the Future. The Spirits of all Three shall strive within me. I will not shut out the lessons that they teach. Oh, tell me that I may sponge away the writing on this stone! -- Charles Dickens Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
Stephen Kuhn wrote: Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would be apreciated. Misko Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead? Looks beautiful mate. stephen kuhn - owner Stephen, because I need both a mailer and browser here. Don't know if Firebird and its counterpart Firefox (or like) are in sum, say to, bigger than Mozilla combo of v 1.6 and regardless of that detail, is that worth of using a couple of them instead one product? Any opinion? Btw, does MozillaFirebird has similar (say xft_version-related) issues as Mozilla combo? What about its new browser? Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Does this bloke work for Microsoft FUD specialists?
On Sunday 25 Apr 2004 12:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: JoePill, I know you'll dig this one...ahem... http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/235 Very biased and FUD but he does make a few good points. Most of which have already been covered by our favourite distro. For Joe Public automated updates would be good. I could write a worm and a backdoor into Linux without too much thought. It wouldn't run as root, but you don't need to run as root to run an SMTP client. It wouldn't auto-run, but the latest and most successful MS worms don't either. So the spammers could target Linux. There ought to be a kernel configuration to require that applications opening any network link are trusted. Now 2.6 has capability bits it should be possible to do. I don't know how the kazaa look-alikes work under Linux, but I imagine that the exported files are just saved under the user's home. A worm could probably just write itself into that folder. With Linux an email virus/worm cannot destroy the system easily, but they can subvert it. And that is what most new viruses/worms try to do. Now is not the time to rest on our laurels. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Does this bloke work for Microsoft FUD specialists?
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 23:11, Richard Urwin wrote: Now is not the time to rest on our laurels. Hence maintaining constant vigilance and constantly looking for holes in our own boxes... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- In a medium in which a News Piece takes a minute and an In-Depth Piece takes two minutes, the Simple will drive out the Complex. -- Frank Mankiewicz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 23:09, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would be apreciated. Misko Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead? Looks beautiful mate. stephen kuhn - owner Stephen, because I need both a mailer and browser here. Don't know if Firebird and its counterpart Firefox (or like) are in sum, say to, bigger than Mozilla combo of v 1.6 and regardless of that detail, is that worth of using a couple of them instead one product? Any opinion? I don't like Mozilla/Netscape Mail - I'm strictly an Evolution-ist After I imported all my Windows fonts, my Netscape and Mozilla look quite a bit better than at first - and I made sure I changed the fonts in the preferences to suit my taste (or lack thereof). Btw, does MozillaFirebird has similar (say xft_version-related) issues as Mozilla combo? What about its new browser? MozillaFirebird/Firefox seems to just look damn better right from the initial installation - so I'm biased now...it's worth a download/install just to see what you think - and it's faster at loading/starting... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Has your family tried 'em? POWDERMILK BISCUITS Heavens, they're tasty and expeditious! They're made from whole wheat, to give shy persons the strength to get up and do what needs to be done. POWDERMILK BISCUITS Buy them ready-made in the big blue box with the picture of the biscuit on the front, or in the brown bag with the dark stains that indicate freshness. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:38, frankieh wrote: 5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah! No accounting for Taste or Logic apparently :-) Ahem - er, Frankie, remember to what country I moved...eh? ...care to restate that? (g) stephen kuhn - owner Not at all, if anything that reinforces my statement... its a nice country to look at, but you dont' want to have to stay here unless you are wanted by the law elsewhere. :-) So what did you do to get kicked out of the US stephen?? where you to vocal against MS perhaps ??? -- rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: MDK 9.1 and HP Netserver LH+
Mike Fehse wrote (long ago): If you are able to run a Windows operating system on a computer, you should be able to use Linux on it. And you may not tax the system as much, as you can install a Linux distro, and then re-compile the kernel to support only the feature you need. Do you know of some free guide related to re-compile the kernel? I am not much familiar with that. One suggestion, before I go any farther, is to have a look at DistroWatch.com Will look at. Btw, I'd prefer Mdk 9.1 because I also use it at home. My feeling is that you should not dedicate one machine to preforming a number of these functions. A firewall, with logging and tracking features, should be on a machine, by itself, without samba, LDAP, or anything else. If you are making a server available to the public, via the internet, then you will most likely want two DNSs - one for the public to see, and the second just for your private LAN (i.e., inTRAnet). In fact, what I need at first is to have a 'server' box, a domain controller or like, that would contain my users' accounts, their downloads from the net, their W2k clients' Favorites etc. At the moment, they use a couple of 'cloned' W2k Prof. boxes, running in parallel - in order to access the Internet. I have cca 30 user's profiles on both boxes and whenever I am about to add another user, I have to do on both boxes. In addition, it looks like I am going to install a couple of more boxes for the same job - so I'd like to make a domain controller and to store all users' stuff in there. The idea is to avoid NT or W2k DC's with Linux but to allow W2k clients to use such a controller. Would be also fine to have an ability to download an AV update from that server and force the workstations to apply a patch or like. For a firewall, I would suggest looking at CensorNet, or even IPCop and SmoothWall. I think CensorNet would better meet your needs, while IPCop can do the job, yet it would need modules/add-ons that the end users have developed. At the moment, the client boxes run their own AV clients and software firewalls. Don't know what would be a solution for a Linux DC if implemented instead of NT/W2k DC. I don't see why you can't replace the NT 4.0 operating system with Linux, save some licensing cost, and go with open standards. Any idea of an on-line manual or guide, related to such a DC implementation for local networks? Just my two cents, before taxes, inflation, and an empty pocket. Mike (a.k.a AWEV) Thanks for help! Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Brother MFC-8500
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 18:33, Lee Wiggers wrote:
Anyone have experience with this multi-function printer/fax, etc
with 9.2 or 10. My fax died Friday and I can pick this one up
cheap.
Lee
sarcasm
biNO/b/i
/sarcasm
stephen kuhn - owner
That is not valid HTML/XHTML Stephen...
it should be:
sarcasm
biNO/i/b
/sarcasm
Note that I fixed your badly nested tags..
Also, both b and i are depreciated nowdays, it should be:
!-- The below line goes in your CSS stylesheet //--
.stuff {font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;}
sarcasm
span class='stuff'NO /span
/sarcasm
I hope that in future that this helps in sharpening you sarcastic wit. :-)
The sarcasm you have used will only work in Outlook Express, meaning
that most on this list will never see it. :-)
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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 23:40, frankieh wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:38, frankieh wrote: 5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah! No accounting for Taste or Logic apparently :-) Ahem - er, Frankie, remember to what country I moved...eh? ...care to restate that? (g) stephen kuhn - owner Not at all, if anything that reinforces my statement... its a nice country to look at, but you dont' want to have to stay here unless you are wanted by the law elsewhere. :-) Ssshhh... So what did you do to get kicked out of the US stephen?? where you to vocal against MS perhaps ??? I'll plead the 5th Amendment on that one. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- That's fine for you, Marge. But I used to rock and roll all night and party every day. Then it was every other day. Now I'm lucky if I can find half an hour a week in which to get funky. I've got to get out of this rut and back into the groove! -- Homer Simpson Homerpalooza Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ARTICLE: Linux on the Desktop Is Good For Redmond, Argues Microsoftee
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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ SHE MADE ME
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:44, franki wrote: [05:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ man butt No manual entry for butt stephen kuhn - owner Your a sick puppy Stephen, I'm proud of you Thought about that on the last visit to King's Cross in Sydney...on the train...tried to hide the chuckling and snickering...was waiting to be able to use it...heheheh... Does your lady know you were on the train to Kings Cross ??? Why were you goign there??? last time heard, it was only good for finding whores and drugs.. has it changed since then?? -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Brother MFC-8500
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 23:48, frankieh wrote:
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 18:33, Lee Wiggers wrote:
Anyone have experience with this multi-function printer/fax, etc
with 9.2 or 10. My fax died Friday and I can pick this one up
cheap.
Lee
sarcasm
biNO/b/i
/sarcasm
stephen kuhn - owner
That is not valid HTML/XHTML Stephen...
it should be:
sarcasm
biNO/i/b
/sarcasm
Note that I fixed your badly nested tags..
Also, both b and i are depreciated nowdays, it should be:
!-- The below line goes in your CSS stylesheet //--
.stuff {font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;}
sarcasm
span class='stuff'NO /span
/sarcasm
I hope that in future that this helps in sharpening you sarcastic wit. :-)
The sarcasm you have used will only work in Outlook Express, meaning
that most on this list will never see it. :-)
Damn. Learn something new each day - even here in Australia.
stephen kuhn - moaner
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Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ SHE MADE ME
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 23:49, franki wrote: Does your lady know you were on the train to Kings Cross ??? Why were you goign there??? last time heard, it was only good for finding whores and drugs.. has it changed since then?? Shite - you caught me out again, mate. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- GREAT MOMENTS IN HISTORY (#7): November 23, 1915 Pancake make-up is invented; most people continue to prefer syrup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Does this bloke work for Microsoft FUD specialists?
On April 25, 2004 04:38 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: JoePill, I know you'll dig this one...ahem... http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/235 stephen kuhn - owner I'm gonna play devil's advocate and agree with the columnnist on this one. You need to remember that Lindows/Linspir == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The wages of sin are high but you get your money's worth. == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- The wages of sin are high but you get your money's worth. e ships with no security at all set up and the user plays around in their box as root. The same silliness is repeated with other distros as well. It's also possible to install Mandrake with no password at all for root. I found out on my course that I'm in this week that it's just as possible to do this in RH/Fedora. As the columnist's point is about security he does have a point. We, who have played with and worked with Linux for a while, know that yowou don't run as root and that you don't leave root unpassworded (if that's a word). Serious newbies do not. He's also right that this is an inviation to script kiddies to start to attack unprotected boxens out there. One thing Mandrake does do right is to offer updates for free for supported releases. It's important to educate new users and one of the ways of doing that is to enforce the idea of a password for root on install and to make sure that the same password isn't used by the user. All this can and should be scripted into an installer. Sorry but Walmart boxes are security problems waiting to happen. And this is something that the entire Linux community needs to address. That said, the situation is no worse than Windows which happily ships W2K and XP completely unprotected and most users don't even know that there is a administrator password waiting and needing to be set up. Sadly most don't care either. This applies to some of the dimmer MSCEs out there who feel that it's easier to telnet into a box than ssh in. That the situation is no worse than Windows doesn't surprise me. But we're supposed to be better than that and that's the point that the writer is making. BTW, both Lindows and RH (after a grace period) charge for updates. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Saturday 24 April 2004 18:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 00:10, frankieh wrote: I was a big redhat fan from 4.x to 6.2, then I changed to mandake and haven't looked back. 1.) This is an ancient ancient post 2.) I started with Slackware 1, then RH Haloween 3.) This is an ancient post 4.) I wouldn't touch any RH below 9 at this point, and am still running MDK 9.1 considering doing a total blow-out to 10CE... 5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah! stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- There are things that are so serious that you can only joke about them - Heisenberg I am curious why you didn't upgrade to 9.2. I am running 9.2 and am having great difficulties It seems that I either have a bad set of disks or a bad computer since it self destructs just after the upgrade is finished and no two installs are the same. I too am considering upgrading to 10 since buying the disks would hopefully elimnate one source of problems. Any ancient thoughts or a joke would do. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 00:15, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I am curious why you didn't upgrade to 9.2. I am running 9.2 and am having great difficulties It seems that I either have a bad set of disks or a bad computer since it self destructs just after the upgrade is finished and no two installs are the same. I too am considering upgrading to 10 since buying the disks would hopefully elimnate one source of problems. Any ancient thoughts or a joke would do. Hoyt I didn't do the 9.2 upgrade path because, well, my system was stable and I wanted to focus more on taking care of my customers and making use of a very stable system - along with spending a fair amount of time converting DVD's to AVI's...and I was rather off the 'net for six months, too...so that didn't cause me pressure to upgrade. Since receiving the 9.2 disks from a wonderful person in the UK, the thought had crossed my mind - but then, I don't like doing upgrades - I rather do a completely clean installation. Tina, my GF, was able to do a straight'n'clean installation and it seems to be quite nicely done with minor tweaks here and there. She's happy right now, but I'm looking at the 10+ installation now, along with a changeover in how I use mail - thinking of digging into postfix, along with all the other nice bits'n'bobs that come with the 2.6+ kernel (and it's bloody cool speed)... Odd that 9.2 blows up your system so randomly - but then again, as with other versions and other distros, I've experienced the same BS - hence another reason to jump from 9.1 to 10.whatever = never really been one to do the whole number versions... Ancient thoughts?? Mate, every one of my thoughts is ancient... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It looked like something resembling white marble, which was probably what it was: something resembling white marble. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows and LiLo
Alle 14:35, domenica 25 aprile 2004, Stephen Kuhn ha scritto: try this as well: other=/dev/hdd1 label=windows On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:21, JRH wrote: Stephen, Did as you suggested, and still no joy! I select windows at the lilo screen, and it just hangs there now have to use the reset switch to get it back again. I have pasted my lilo.conf file contents below. Doubtless to say, I'm doing something wrong here... but what?? :-) Feel free to have a look, and make any mods as you see fot, if you think it would help me! As below - try this modification: image=/dev/hdd label=windows root=/dev/hdd1 * Save the file * Rerun lilo See if that does the trick...BUT... Bear in mind, though, that Windows does NOT like to be installed nor booted from any other partition than the first partition on the primary drive - good ol' Microsoft, ay? What I've always done to make SURE that Windows and linux can live happily together is to create my partitions first, install Windows first, then in the remaining space install linux - that way, Microsoft can have the damn first partition on the primary drive and thence be a happy slugpuppy without further issue. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- You know what I'd really, really like? What I'd pay MONEY for? A ZX81 with a disc drive. I *understood* the ZX81. It was so easy to interface stuff to it. (alt.fan.pratchett) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Brother MFC-8500
Lee Wiggers wrote: Anyone have experience with this multi-function printer/fax, etc with 9.2 or 10. My fax died Friday and I can pick this one up cheap. Lee Lee; I don't recommend it. I have the MFC-4800 and it doesn't even blink in Linux. Recognized by CUPS, but nothing ever happens with it. Also it's not recognized as a scanner either. Good luck. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.
Frankie; I'll get back to you on this later today, Dude! Gotta go watch a flick, shave my legs, change my dre,...Damn! Did I say that out loud? Uh, forget that last part! Talk to you later on this. You're still not out of the woods yet! g Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] APT for Mandrake
I, too, would love to hear more about this. I've been off playing with Debian Sarge for a couple of days and although there are a number of things I prefer about MDK, I must say that I was completely seduced by Apt, along with the GUI, Synaptic. Much better than urpmi and MDK's GUI tools. Typing apt-get update and apt-get upgrade without any of the issues of MDK was just great. Being able to browse through 13,000 programs/files I could install was also amazing. But, installing and updating them was just too smooth for words. apt-get install openoffice telling me I had it installed and then upgrading to the newest version was great. But, it was installing Firefox and Superkaramba via apt-get install superkaramba (nothing more) was too sweet for words. On MDK, both were a pain for different reasons. MDK clearly still has a much better install process (Debian's new installer still has lots of room to grow). MDK also has much cleaner config tools through the Control Centre. Add in something like Up2date like Fedora (MDK seems to be moving in that direction) and Apt to find and install and update open source programs outside of MDK and MDK would be perfect. As an aside, it's nice to be able to actually compare these distros and see strengths and weaknesses, between them. I could never do that with XP. Rory On Sunday 25 April 2004 8:57 am, Keith Powell wrote: I have downloaded APT from Mandrake10 Contrib, and have tried to get it working. It attempts to access the APT repository at Sunet, but says it can't. Does anyone know if APT is now back with Mandrake? It used to be and then disappeared. If so, where is the repository, please? Even if it does work, there may be no packages from it, which are not available from the urpmi sources. I though it was worth looking at, though. Many thanks Keith -- ~Rory Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 25 April 2004 09:39, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 00:15, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip I didn't do the 9.2 upgrade path because, well, my system was stable and I wanted to focus more on taking care of my customers and making use of a very stable system - along with spending a fair amount of time converting DVD's to AVI's...and I was rather off the 'net for six months, too...so that didn't cause me pressure to upgrade. Since receiving the 9.2 disks from a wonderful person in the UK, the thought had crossed my mind - but then, I don't like doing upgrades - I rather do a completely clean installation. Tina, my GF, was able to do a straight'n'clean installation and it seems to be quite nicely done with minor tweaks here and there. She's happy right now, but I'm looking at the 10+ installation now, along with a changeover in how I use mail - thinking of digging into postfix, along with all the other nice bits'n'bobs that come with the 2.6+ kernel (and it's bloody cool speed)... Odd that 9.2 blows up your system so randomly - but then again, as with other versions and other distros, I've experienced the same BS - hence another reason to jump from 9.1 to 10.whatever = never really been one to do the whole number versions... Ancient thoughts?? Mate, every one of my thoughts is ancient... Thanks I expect that I will attempt 10 because this isn't working. The upgrades are about finished so I'll be reinstalling shortly. Probably after downloading some more stuff. I get closer each time so maybe someday. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 25 April 2004 06:40 am, frankieh wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 22:38, frankieh wrote: 5.) I LIKE my sendmail. Nyah! No accounting for Taste or Logic apparently :-) Ahem - er, Frankie, remember to what country I moved...eh? ...care to restate that? (g) stephen kuhn - owner Not at all, if anything that reinforces my statement... its a nice country to look at, but you dont' want to have to stay here unless you are wanted by the law elsewhere. :-) So what did you do to get kicked out of the US stephen?? where you to vocal against MS perhaps ??? i think driving thru Alabama in a pink volvo had something to do with it ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS: We know we suck, and we don't really care.
Lanman wrote: Frankie; I'll get back to you on this later today, Dude! Gotta go watch a flick, shave my legs, change my dre,...Damn! Did I say that out loud? Uh, forget that last part! Talk to you later on this. You're still not out of the woods yet! g Lanman yeah yeah... and next year you will be claiming that the comment you made about the dress and shaving your legs was all FUD that you never said and it was all to discredit you... Dude, if Micro$oft release a version of M$ Office to run in .NET framework on a linux box in the next 5 years, and a court didn't force them to do it. I will personally ship you a carton of Australian beer (if thats legal, if not I'll finance a carton so you can buy your own.) -- rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] urpmi Problem
I'm having a problem with a media entry in urpmi. I keep getting this error when running urpmi: unable to take medium Z2main into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Z2main] exists I did have a medium at one time named Z2main, however I removed it with urpmi.removemedia. I checked my urpmi.cfg file and it does not list Z2main as a medium. I also went into Mandrake Control Center, Software Management, Software Media Manager and there is no entry in that either for Z2main. At this point I have no idea how to remove this ghost entry from urpmi. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks! -- Registered Linux User: 271967 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Another Xfce convert!
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 12:09, Marv Boyes wrote: Is it a sign of increasing Linux maturity when you start to favor functionality over eye-candy? ;) Eye Candy is nice if that's all you're doing - watching pretty windows... Well what else am I supposed to do when I'm pretending to work and I've finshed reading the OT list? Sir Robin -- If the lion could speak, we would not understand it. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Any printer/fax (laser) suggestions? (was Brother MFC-8500)
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:08:14 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Wiggers wrote: Anyone have experience with this multi-function printer/fax, etc with 9.2 or 10. My fax died Friday and I can pick this one up cheap. Lee Lee; I don't recommend it. I have the MFC-4800 and it doesn't even blink in Linux. Recognized by CUPS, but nothing ever happens with it. Also it's not recognized as a scanner either. Good luck. Lanman Found Mandrake 9.1 driver on the Brother site, too. Damn glad I asked. Just goes to show you. Anyone have a multi that works? I just need fax/printer. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Brother MFC-8500
Dawned on me that the Brother driver link might be of value to someone else: http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html#red Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Decent Audio Track Ripper?
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:21:06 +0300 rhein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you use grip under KDE without having gnome installed? Sure. Another thing to try is KDE's audiocd;// mode in Konqueror. It'll let you explore the CD as a filesystem, and you can encode or rip on the fly. But speaking from experience, cdparanoia works just fine for me, and then I use lame to encode the tracks. Christophe -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO
On Sunday 25 April 2004 11:43 am, Glenn wrote: On Sunday 25 April 2004 09:36, Aron Smith wrote: i think driving thru Alabama in a pink volvo had something to do with it ;-) That's part of the proposed scenario for Survivor: L.A. (Lower Alabama), isn't it? yeppers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Does this bloke work for Microsoft FUD specialists?
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:52:34 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:25:59 -0700 John Wilson disseminated the following: Sorry but Walmart boxes are security problems waiting to happen. And this is something that the entire Linux community needs to address. Security problem? Yes. However, Linux boxes, even with no root password and the user running as root, are still not going to come *anywhere near* to causing the egregious effects of the worms and viruses and trojans that plague Windows machines, choking networks with malicious and illegitimate traffic. I would be more concerned that these Walmart/Lindows boxes are going to be an example that people with an anti-FOSS ideology are going to use to propagate yet more of their FUD. That said, the situation is no worse than Windows which happily ships W2K and XP completely unprotected and most users don't even know that there is a administrator password waiting and needing to be set up. Sadly most don't care either. This applies to some of the dimmer MSCEs out there who feel that it's easier to telnet into a box than ssh in. No worse? No, it's infinitely better. On it's worst day, *nix and OSS are far superior to Win on its *best* day. Is GNU/Linux perfect? No. Will it always need improvement and development to make sure it is as secure as possible? Yes. But no matter the sickly and wasted arguments that come from people like Mr. Hanson, it is the future, whether they like it or not. Proprietary, closed standards and code are a dead concept economically, only the political punditry hasn't caught up with this fact. The fact that the writer of this column uses Linux/FOSS as an 'example' for his'theory' is telling. It is quite clear to me that this dolt wanted to write an article critical of Linux/FOSS, and then slapped on some lightweight dogmatic meanderings to mask that fact. He provides no evidence to back up his argument, which is not surprising, since there is none to be had; this is of course why all the 'columnists' who write pieces like this are a little weak in the empirical knees. Ship it now, fix it once it's sold is *not* the same as 'Release early, release often', it's comparing apples and oranges. 'Release early, release often', in fact, is a philosophy meant to overcome the problems with releasing a so-called 'finished product' that one knows is buggy (that pretty much describes MS perfectly, but of course Mr. Hanson never mentions *them*). It's a completely different model for software development that you either get or don't, and this guy doesn't get it. This is most clearly evident herein: Viruses, generally speaking, are written to target popular systems. If we consider the number of end user systems (popular targets for social engineering viruses), it is likely that a large majority of these systems are running Windows. It seems to me that Unix and Linux users are relying heavily on security through obscurity, in that the number of Linux/Unix systems deployed are not great enough to warrant learning how best to manipulate them. Bullshit. Apache is the most widely used web server on the 'Net. Is it the most exploited? No. IIS is, even though it has a relatively very small market share. Viruses are written for Windows because it's easy to do, not because there are more Windows desktops. I'm so fucking sick of hearing this shit, I think I'm gonna lose it. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Well, he might as well have been bombing Denmark. -- Gore Vidal, on the bombing of Afghanistan after 9/11 Why don't you just say what you mean, Joe? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Does this bloke work for Microsoft FUD specialists?
On Sunday 25 April 2004 11:52 am, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:25:59 -0700 John Wilson disseminated the following: Sorry but Walmart boxes are security problems waiting to happen. And this is something that the entire Linux community needs to address. Security problem? Yes. However, Linux boxes, even with no root password and the user running as root, are still not going to come *anywhere near* to causing the egregious effects of the worms and viruses and trojans that plague Windows machines, choking networks with malicious and illegitimate traffic. I would be more concerned that these Walmart/Lindows boxes are going to be an example that people with an anti-FOSS ideology are going to use to propagate yet more of their FUD. That said, the situation is no worse than Windows which happily ships W2K and XP completely unprotected and most users don't even know that there is a administrator password waiting and needing to be set up. Sadly most don't care either. This applies to some of the dimmer MSCEs out there who feel that it's easier to telnet into a box than ssh in. No worse? No, it's infinitely better. On it's worst day, *nix and OSS are far superior to Win on its *best* day. Is GNU/Linux perfect? No. Will it always need improvement and development to make sure it is as secure as possible? Yes. But no matter the sickly and wasted arguments that come from people like Mr. Hanson, it is the future, whether they like it or not. Proprietary, closed standards and code are a dead concept economically, only the political punditry hasn't caught up with this fact. The fact that the writer of this column uses Linux/FOSS as an 'example' for his 'theory' is telling. It is quite clear to me that this dolt wanted to write an article critical of Linux/FOSS, and then slapped on some lightweight dogmatic meanderings to mask that fact. He provides no evidence to back up his argument, which is not surprising, since there is none to be had; this is of course why all the 'columnists' who write pieces like this are a little weak in the empirical knees. Ship it now, fix it once it's sold is *not* the same as 'Release early, release often', it's comparing apples and oranges. 'Release early, release often', in fact, is a philosophy meant to overcome the problems with releasing a so-called 'finished product' that one knows is buggy (that pretty much describes MS perfectly, but of course Mr. Hanson never mentions *them*). It's a completely different model for software development that you either get or don't, and this guy doesn't get it. This is most clearly evident herein: Viruses, generally speaking, are written to target popular systems. If we consider the number of end user systems (popular targets for social engineering viruses), it is likely that a large majority of these systems are running Windows. It seems to me that Unix and Linux users are relying heavily on security through obscurity, in that the number of Linux/Unix systems deployed are not great enough to warrant learning how best to manipulate them. Bullshit. Apache is the most widely used web server on the 'Net. Is it the most exploited? No. IIS is, even though it has a relatively very small market share. Viruses are written for Windows because it's easy to do, not because there are more Windows desktops. I'm so fucking sick of hearing this shit, I think I'm gonna lose it. there there joe go here for peace of mind http://www.userfriendly.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Linux on the Desktop Is Good For Redmond, Argues Microsoftee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/04/23/1957200 So, what MS is saying is that they can't think of innovations unless someone else thinks of them first? didn't we already know that? Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
