Re: [newbie] SanDisk Cruzer Mini USB Flash Drive

2004-07-18 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 18 July 2004 01:56 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote:

-Okay, this is in the Boy, do I feel stupid category.  I was plugging
-it into a front-of-the-case USB slot and I guess I didn't hook it up
-correctly when I installed the mobo in this case.  After reading your
-response, I tried one of the rear onboard slots and it works fine.  Oh,
-well.  Sorry I wasted everybody's time...
-
-Thanks,
-Carl

Sometimes (like my Soyo Dragon Plus) you also have to turn it on in BIOS 
and/or hardware jumper on the motherboard itself.

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Re: [newbie] Real Audio Player

2004-07-18 Thread Graham Watkins
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

Are you trying to install it as root, or as yourself?
My earlier reply appears not to have been delivered.
Installing as root - as always.
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Re: [newbie] Xmms crashes

2004-07-18 Thread SME Server Admin
On Friday 09 Jul 2004 12:07, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 arts is the default sound system in KDE.  You can, however, turn arts
 completely off and use OSS directly, you just won't get sounds in KDE or if
 you do get sounds, they won't coexist with other items such as xmms.

 To disable arts, disable it in Configuration, KDE, Sound System by turning
 system sounds off.  However, as a first step, let me recommend that you add
 the PLF repository, or Charles' repository to urpmi and install xmms and
 xmms-arts plugin from those sites to make sure that you have the newest
 versions.  Also, you might consider switching your hardware sound drivers
 from OSS to ALSA which is a newer architecture and might be better
 supported under newer versions of Mandrake.

Thank you very much for all your help :) I've been having some other problems 
with my Mandrake 10 installation for music, and this is the 2nd reinstall...

I've disabled sound and for once Xmms has now managed to and is playing 
MP3s :)

Cheers

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[newbie] XawScreen

2004-07-18 Thread SME Server Admin
Hiya

Is there a log file entry somewhere for XawScreen?

I'm trying out a TV card and it keeps crashing. Or rather, all it does it 
starts to load then just vanishes???

Running Mandrake 10

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Re: [newbie] Dell Dimension 3250 ok for Mandrake?

2004-07-18 Thread rikona
Hello Lee and Paul,

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:36:47 +0200 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I installed 9.1 and 10.0 on my Dell 4200 and it runs like a
 charm... I heard of many other Dells being fine with Mdk.

Friday, July 16, 2004, 9:40:32 AM, Lee wrote:

LW I here negative comments about Dell in general but don't recall
LW any install problems Dell specific.

Thanks for the replies. He's going to try it when he gets back home,
but is still VERY nervous about not having the illusory M$ crutch.
Despite all the troubles he's had with XP, as a super-newbie he still
views it as safer. The key to getting him to try it was to tell him
how to back up everything in case he needs to reinstall XP. It's an
uphill battle

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Re: [newbie] Getting online with DSL modem

2004-07-18 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Tuesday 06 July 2004 15:46, Amy wrote:
 Jeff Reid wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I downloaded Mandrake 10 recently, and it works fine except for
  sound issues and an inability to get on the Net with it. My primary
  concern right now is getting online.
 
  I have SBC Yahoo! DSL, and I am using a Speedstream 5100 modem.
  What do my settings need to be in the Network setup? I have the IP
  addresses that SBC gave me, but they made it clear that they do not
  support Linux.
 
  I assigned the primary IP address to my NIC, so it no longer
  complains about not being about to find an IP, but there does
  appear to be a program missing at boot that has to do with the
  Internet connection. I do recall a notice that the download version
  may not work with some DSL modems due to not having commercial
  software included with it. Is this the issue I am having, and is it
  possible to get online with the free download version over a DSL
  connection?
 
  Thanks very much,
  Jeff

 Would it be possible to get a cheap router, and connect through that?
 I had no problems connecting to SBC yahoo! DSL when I switched from
 Windows to Mandrake and I have a router because I have to share the
 connection with my dad. You just toss your login and password into
 the router configuration, and set your mandrake box to connect to the
 router. Should be easy as pie, no?

 At least, it's something to consider if the other advice you've
 received in the list here doesn't fix it and let you connect to the
 external modem directly?
Jeff 
It is likely that you are already online so this may not help.  I am 
running 10.0 Official and have had my problems. Do not call the help 
line the people who answer that line know nothing about computers and 
have a computer program based on M$ so IMHO they are worse than 
nothing.  My problem was resolved as a username password problem which 
you cannot set unless you can contact yahoo.  I would suggest that you 
call DSL Maint @ 1-877-274-6275 Ext. 7202 or 6228.  They know their 
system and are helpful altho they dont know linux.
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Re: [newbie] Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG

2004-07-18 Thread Henriette Holm


Thanks a lot for all your help. I'll give it a try when I come back from my holiday. Thanks again.

-Henriette


<-Original Message-> 
>From: Kaj Haulrich
>Sent: 7/16/2004 11:17:48 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
>
>On Friday 16 July 2004 21:56, Henriette Holm wrote: 
>> Now here comes the silly question (since I've never touched the 
>> kernel before). Do I just installed the rpm file and hope for the 
>> best, or? Step-by-step instructions, please :o) 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> -Henriette 
>> 
>> 
>> <-Original Message-> 
>> 
>>From: Kaj Haulrich 
>>Sent: 7/16/2004 6:06:45 PM 
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>Subject: Re: [newbie] Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG 
>> 
>>On Friday 16 July 2004 17:49, Kaj Haulrich wrote: 
>>> On Friday 16 July 2004 17:08, Henriette Holm wrote: 
 Hi. 
 Has anyone here any experience getting a Intel pro/wireless 
 2200BG to work under (Mandrake 10) linux? 
 Apparently it's only suppose to work with a 2.6.4+ kernel 
 (see link below) and since I'm running a 2.6.3-something 
 kernel I probably need to do something about this - help 
 please. 
 
 -Henriette 
 
 http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ 
>>> 
>>> Eventually, you can install Thomas Backlund's kernel 2.6.4. 
>>> Can't remember where it is right now, but google is your 
>>> friend. 
>>> 
>>> HTH 
>>> Kaj Haulrich. 
>> 
>>Sorry to repost to my above answer, but here it is : 
>> 
>>http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/10.0/contrib/i586/kernel-t 
>>mb-2.6. 
>> 
>> 4-1.tmb.5mdk-1-1mdk.i586.html 
>> 
>
>Henriette, there are no silly questions on this list. 
>
>The beauty of "urpmi" makes it a snap to install a new kernel : 
>
>1. Download the kernel you want form the above URL into some 
>directory,i.e. /home/henriette/downloads/kernel-2.6.4.blahblahblah.rpm 
>2. Open a terminal (console), and type : su 
>3. Give your root password. The prompt should change to # 
>4. Type : cd /home/henriette/downloads 
>5. Type : urpmi kernel(now, hit TAB) and check if it is the kernel 
>you want. If correct, hit ENTER 
>6. Relax and watch all the hashes (##) 
>7. When the prompt reappears, you are done. 
>
>Now you have a new kernel alongside your old one(s), thus giving you 
>a choice at boot-time. If you want your new kernel as default when 
>booting your system, proceed as follows : 
>
>8. Still as root in the terminal, type : mcedit /etc/lilo.conf 
>(if you don't have mc (Midnight Commander) installed, use any text 
>editor of your liking, as root) 
>9. Scroll down, and take an exact note of your new kernels label 
>10. Scroll up again, and edit the *default* stanza to your new 
>kernels label. 
>11. Save your changes (in mc, press F2) 
>12. Exit your text editor (im mc press F10) 
>13. Still in the terminal (as root), type : lilo 
>14. Check the * (asterisk) at default (new kernel). 
>15. Type : exit (to become Henriette again) 
>16. Type : exit (to leave the terminal) 
>17. Reboot. 
>
>If all this is too obvious, I apologize : It is hard to know your 
>level of experience, but after all : this is a newbie list. 
>
>HTH 
>Kaj Haulrich. 
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[newbie] BitTorrent

2004-07-18 Thread Marco Verheul
Hi all,

I want to start exploring BitTorrent. What client and/or setup do you
recommend for mdk 10.0?

Cheers, Marco
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Re: [newbie] import ms fonts?

2004-07-18 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: John Layt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:32:40 +1200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] import ms fonts?

 On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:21, Angus Auld wrote:
  Hi everyone, I finally have installed Mdk10.0, and I'm in the
  process of getting things set up the way I would like.
  Thus far, I haven't encountered too many bumps, and I
  am quite impressed.
 
  One thing I would like to ask the list however; is there any
  way to import my ms fonts from my dual-boot xp all in one
  step, like in previous versions of Mdk? Can I just copy and paste my fonts
  from ms to Mdk? The automated process that Mdk had was so easy.
 
  TIA for your time and any feedback on this.
  Best regards.
 
  --Angus
 
 I have old Texstar rpms from 9.1 containing the MS core fonts, not sure if he 
 still has it posted at http://www.pclinuxonline.com/ but you could do a 
 google for msfonts-1.2.1-2tex.noarch.rpm and 
 msfonts-style-1.2.1-2tex.noarch.rpm which could be floating around 
 somewhere...
 
 John.
 *
Thanks to everyone who replied. I installed the Texstar 
rpms, and now have ms fonts available.

Best regards.

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[newbie] cdrom4 woes

2004-07-18 Thread Angus Auld
Greetings all,
I am stumped as to how to get around the insert cdrom4 
message when I try to install some softwares with rpmdrake.

I do not have cdrom4, and therefore cannot insert it. Is there 
some way to get around this??
Google hasn't been a lot of help.
I tried disabling cdrom4 in software manager, and that didn't help.

I also tried using urpmi --excludemedia cdrom4 {package name}, 
but that proved fruitless as well. :-((
I am a bit less than impressed.

What am I missing?

Many TIA's for any feedback on this.
Best regards.

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Re: [newbie] cdrom4 woes

2004-07-18 Thread SME Server Admin
On Sunday 18 Jul 2004 14:32, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I am stumped as to how to get around the insert cdrom4
 message when I try to install some softwares with rpmdrake.

There is a 4 CD pack for members of Mandrake's website... Otherwise everyone 
else has a 3 CD pack

HTH

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[newbie] Link to Charles Edwards site please?

2004-07-18 Thread Lanman
I don't know how it happened, but I've managed to lose the URL for 
Charles Edwards's RPM site. Would someone be kind enough to send it along?

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Link to Charles Edwards site please?

2004-07-18 Thread Lanman
Lanman wrote:
I don't know how it happened, but I've managed to lose the URL for 
Charles Edwards's RPM site. Would someone be kind enough to send it along?

TIA
Lanman
Thanks, I found it !
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[newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official

2004-07-18 Thread Lanman
I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM for 
apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can you 
send me the link?

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Link to Charles Edwards site please?

2004-07-18 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:38 am, Lanman wrote:
-Lanman wrote:
- I don't know how it happened, but I've managed to lose the URL for
- Charles Edwards's RPM site. Would someone be kind enough to send it
 along? -
- TIA
-
- Lanman
-
-Thanks, I found it !
-
-Lanman

and just for the archives, a quick search on Google for Charles Edwards will 
bring up his site (as well as some other interesting CE stuff). :-)

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[newbie] Updates

2004-07-18 Thread Charles A Edwards

Newly updated for Mdk 10.0

bogofilter-0.92.2-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
freelords-0.3.3-0.1mdk.i586.rpm
gaim-0.80-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
gaim-festival-0.80-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
gaim-perl-0.80-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
gaim-tcl-0.80-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
gimp2_0-2.0.3-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
gimp2_0-python-2.0.3-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
libgaim-remote0-0.80-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
libgaim-remote0-devel-0.80-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
libgimp2.0_0-2.0.3-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm
libgimp2.0-devel-2.0.3-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm



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Re: [newbie] cdrom4 woes

2004-07-18 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On Sunday 18 July 2004 08:25 am, Todd Slater wrote:
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 Josenildo, are you talking about installing Mandrake in general or Balsa
 in particular? I installed 10.0 without a hitch, but there were many
 apps i wanted to install that were on cd 4, so urpmi didn't work. I did
 eventually find what I was looking for online, it just wasn't as
 convenient as urpmi.

 Todd

Sorry to butt in. Whatever apps are available from CD4, plus a lot more. are 
still available from the mirror sites and other locations. The exception is 
Club packages, you're on your own for those.

Cancel CD4 during the installation, after the installation remove it from the 
list of package sources and add a main and a contrib source from one of 
the mirrors. urpmi will pull from whichever source it finds the package you 
want from first so that shouldn't hamper regular stuff available from the 
disks.

The only packages I have had trouble installing during fresh installs recently 
were ones the CD drive couldn't read. Written at a conservative 18x on an 
A-Open 52x24x52, read for install in a new LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B. 

The new LG was trash. It happens.

Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Link to Charles Edwards site please?

2004-07-18 Thread Lanman
Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 18 July 2004 11:38 am, Lanman wrote:
-Lanman wrote:
- I don't know how it happened, but I've managed to lose the URL for
- Charles Edwards's RPM site. Would someone be kind enough to send it
 along? -
- TIA
-
- Lanman
-
-Thanks, I found it !
-
-Lanman
and just for the archives, a quick search on Google for Charles Edwards will 
bring up his site (as well as some other interesting CE stuff). :-)

Thanks Ron. That's how I found it. Should have thought of that before 
sending the post. DoH!

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Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official

2004-07-18 Thread Eric Jackson
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:43:00 -0400, Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM for
apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can you
send me the link?
TIA
Lanman
Try this.
Mandrake 10.X  
	carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/10.0/contrib/i586/apt-0.5.15cnc5-4mdk.i586.rpm

I think apt-get is part of this package. I found the package by doing a  
search at http://rpm.pbone.net/

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Re: [newbie] Link to Charles Edwards site please?

2004-07-18 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:01 pm, Lanman wrote:

-Thanks Ron. That's how I found it. Should have thought of that before
-sending the post. DoH!
-
-Lanman

Don't even mention it Lanman, if I had a dollar for every doh moment I've 
pulled...well...I wouldn't be on this list talking to you - I'd be on some 
sunny beach, surrounded by bikini clad babes, tossing off brewskis. :-)

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Re: [newbie] little OT gimp question

2004-07-18 Thread Aron Smith
On Sunday 18 July 2004 06:50 am, Thereidos wrote:
 Silly to ask but have anyone tried to move a layer around the canvas in
 gimp? I cannot find the way to do that... help :)
There is a Gimp muser Group 
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Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official

2004-07-18 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:54, Eric Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:43:00 -0400, Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM  
for
apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can  
you
send me the link?

TIA
Lanman
Try this.
Mandrake 10.X  
	carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/ 
10.0/contrib/i586/apt-0.5.15cnc5-4mdk.i586.rpm

I think apt-get is part of this package. I found the package by doing  
a search at http://rpm.pbone.net/
What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*?  I used it only for a  
short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm*  
suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get.  But as I said, I  
am not fluent when it comes to apt-get.

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Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official

2004-07-18 Thread Lanman
Avi Schwartz wrote:
On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:54, Eric Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:43:00 -0400, Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I'm trying an experiment on Mandrake 10.0 Official and I need an RPM  
for
apt-get that will install on it. If anyone has found something, can  you
send me the link?

TIA
Lanman
Try this.
Mandrake 10.X  
carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/ 
10.0/contrib/i586/apt-0.5.15cnc5-4mdk.i586.rpm

I think apt-get is part of this package. I found the package by doing  
a search at http://rpm.pbone.net/

What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*?  I used it only for a  
short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm*  
suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get.  But as I said, I  
am not fluent when it comes to apt-get.

Avi
Just trying an experiment, that's all. I like to play and see how easy 
it is to break my test system. Just my idea of a Good Time. Go Figure!

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[newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10

2004-07-18 Thread SME Server Admin
Hi Folks

Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3?

At the moment I've got the encoding setup to oggenc because all the others 
wont work :(

Others tried are: gogo, mp3encode, xingmp3enc, l3enc, lame, bladeenc

For mp3encode for example I've got the following settings

Encoder Command Line: -p 2 -l 3 -b %b %w %m
Encoder File Format: ~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.ogg

If it's encoding to MP3 surely the extention of the file format should be mp3 
not ogg?

The error message I get is Invalid Encoder Executable Check your encoder 
config

Which is where I am stuck. 

Help!

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Re: [newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10

2004-07-18 Thread Todd Slater
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 06:10:20PM +0100, SME Server Admin wrote:
 Hi Folks
 
 Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3?
 
 At the moment I've got the encoding setup to oggenc because all the others 
 wont work :(
 
 Others tried are: gogo, mp3encode, xingmp3enc, l3enc, lame, bladeenc
 
 For mp3encode for example I've got the following settings
 
 Encoder Command Line: -p 2 -l 3 -b %b %w %m
 Encoder File Format: ~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.ogg
 
 If it's encoding to MP3 surely the extention of the file format should be mp3 
 not ogg?
 
 The error message I get is Invalid Encoder Executable Check your encoder 
 config
 
 Which is where I am stuck. 
 
 Help!
 
 Elwyn

MandrakeSoft can't package mp3 encoders due to licensing restrictions,
so you'll have to download and install an mp3 encoder like lame. If you
add plf to your urpmi sources I think you can get lame and other mp3
encoders.

If you don't need the tunes for a portable player, I'd recommend
sticking with ogg anyway; it's better and free.

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Re: [newbie] MS Wants The Skin Off Our Backs!!

2004-07-18 Thread frankieh
John Wilson wrote:
On July 17, 2004 06:24 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
On Thursday 15 Jul 2004 8:03 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
On July 15, 2004 12:51, Graham Watkins wrote:
Literally
http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/news/0,12597,1254911,00.html
At least they haven't (yet) started trying to use our bodies to
generate power ;^). When they're granted a patent on that, I'll start
getting nervous.
The patent says the body could generate the power needed to run its
various attached devices in a similar way to self-winding watches.
snippity snip snip
Try to take the things off and you'll find that all those doors that
open automatically by pushing them (bank, office, home) don't work any
more, because they aren't reading a password from your cyber-ware.

Even more worrying you're locked out of the bathroom just as you need 
desperately need it.  Or, worse, you're locked in after.

Of course such things don't take into account playful house cats, kittens or 
puppies.

Nor do they do much for those of us who work in trades where our skin and 
clothes are often subject to dirt, grime, grease, hammers, slivers, direct 
sunlight and electricity.

I'm just trying to think of what this device would do after I've been jolted 
by ringing generator while working on someone's phone line.

Fine for suits in clean rooms but probably pretty useless to the rest of us.
ttfn
John
You guys all seem sure that MS actually plan to release a product based 
on this.. I'd say that is unlikely.
I also think it will be thrown out the first time it is challanged, they 
didn't even difine a method by which the data or power is transfered. no 
protocols, no schemas, nothing. all they patented was an idea

I'd say they are likely to try and sit on it, and later one when someone 
else does all the work, there will be MS, holding out their hands.
Thats the way the IP industry is corrupted nowdays.. and you think MS 
would be any different?

rgds
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Re: [newbie] little OT gimp question

2004-07-18 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 23:50, Thereidos wrote:
 Silly to ask but have anyone tried to move a layer around the canvas in gimp? 
 I cannot find the way to do that... help :)

I choose the layer in the navigation window and then can hover the mouse
over the bit you want to move around (say, for instance, text) and I'm
able to do it like that...or do you mean move an entire layer that is
the image size?

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Re: [newbie] OT? Running compiled kicker applets?

2004-07-18 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 23:58, hackhound wrote:
 I just downloaded a applet called Webklip
 (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=13241), compiled it,
 and installed it.  I assume that after restarting X-windows it should
 show up in the 'Add Applet menu' when I right-click on Kicker, but it
 does not.  What am I missing?
 
 Thanks,
 Hackhound

Sometimes with some apps, I've had to run:

export KDE_DIR=/usr

./configure --prefix=/usr

...where did the binary end up going?

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Re: [newbie] cdrom4 woes

2004-07-18 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:45:21 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] cdrom4 woes

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 On Sunday 18 July 2004 08:25 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 snip
  Josenildo, are you talking about installing Mandrake in general or Balsa
  in particular? I installed 10.0 without a hitch, but there were many
  apps i wanted to install that were on cd 4, so urpmi didn't work. I did
  eventually find what I was looking for online, it just wasn't as
  convenient as urpmi.
 
  Todd
 
 Sorry to butt in. Whatever apps are available from CD4, plus a lot more. are 
 still available from the mirror sites and other locations. The exception is 
 Club packages, you're on your own for those.
 
 Cancel CD4 during the installation, after the installation remove it from the 
 list of package sources and add a main and a contrib source from one of 
 the mirrors. urpmi will pull from whichever source it finds the package you 
 want from first so that shouldn't hamper regular stuff available from the 
 disks.
 
 The only packages I have had trouble installing during fresh installs recently 
 were ones the CD drive couldn't read. Written at a conservative 18x on an 
 A-Open 52x24x52, read for install in a new LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B. 
 
 The new LG was trash. It happens.
 
 Regards;
 Charlie
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Hey Charlie, thanks for the info. I just noted what you say 
to be the case indeed. I was trying to install eslrahc.com's 
k3b package and rpmdrake told me it couldn't unless I inserted 
cdrom4. It needed libid3_3.8_3-3.8.3-6mdk, which it wanted 
cdrom4 to access. I searched a main source mirror, and guess 
what?..there was the libid3 I needed. Go figure.

Do the main mirrors have all of the packages from all 4 cd's?
Regardstake care.


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Re: [newbie] cdrom4 woes

2004-07-18 Thread Charlie Mahan
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On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:23 pm, Angus Auld wrote:
chomp
  Sorry to butt in. Whatever apps are available from CD4, plus a lot more.
  are still available from the mirror sites and other locations. The
  exception is Club packages, you're on your own for those.
 
  Cancel CD4 during the installation, after the installation remove it from
  the list of package sources and add a main and a contrib source from
  one of the mirrors. urpmi will pull from whichever source it finds the
  package you want from first so that shouldn't hamper regular stuff
  available from the disks.
 
  The only packages I have had trouble installing during fresh installs
  recently were ones the CD drive couldn't read. Written at a conservative
  18x on an A-Open 52x24x52, read for install in a new LG HL-DT-ST
  GCE-8525B.
 
  The new LG was trash. It happens.

 Hey Charlie, thanks for the info. I just noted what you say
 to be the case indeed. I was trying to install eslrahc.com's
 k3b package and rpmdrake told me it couldn't unless I inserted
 cdrom4. It needed libid3_3.8_3-3.8.3-6mdk, which it wanted
 cdrom4 to access. I searched a main source mirror, and guess
 what?..there was the libid3 I needed. Go figure.

Amazing how that works isn't it? g It's easy to add Charles site, just click 
the link in his signature, pick your version and follow his easy urpmi add 
instructions. His link is:

http://www.eslrahc.com/

 Do the main mirrors have all of the packages from all 4 cd's?
 Regardstake care.

Since Mandrake Linux is intended to be *totally* GPL compliant yes. The only 
exceptions are driver and evaluation packages on the power pack Cd's. Those 
are generally binary only. There are actually more toys available from the 
main and contrib sources than the 4 disk download editions or the power 
packs anyway.

I have a copy of the 10.0 Official tree on one hard drive. Including updates 
but excluding the ISOs it's 6.7 GB total. I just used it with the boot.iso 
from the images directory to install the system I'm writing this on. Slicker 
than greased owl $h!t. Fast too. g

Think about _that_ next time you wonder which has more packages. (-: Just 
kidding Angus.

Peace;
Charlie

 PS. I recently purchased a LG HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B. :-||
 Mine seems to be working OK for my purposes though.

Since the price is right for those drives I'll keep using them. I just got one 
bad one out of roughly the last 30 to 40 that I've used. Mass production and 
Murphy's law in operation. Still that's the first bad one I've had since they 
were first available locally.

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Re: [newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10

2004-07-18 Thread SME Server Admin
On Sunday 18 Jul 2004 18:47, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 06:10:20PM +0100, SME Server Admin wrote:
  Hi Folks
 
  Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3?
 


 MandrakeSoft can't package mp3 encoders due to licensing restrictions,
 so you'll have to download and install an mp3 encoder like lame. If you
 add plf to your urpmi sources I think you can get lame and other mp3
 encoders.
Ahh, I see :) Thanks for telling me... 

 If you don't need the tunes for a portable player, I'd recommend
 sticking with ogg anyway; it's better and free.

 Todd

Ok. Winamp can cope with OGG can't it?!?  Down the line I'm planning on 
getting an iRiver HP 120/130/140 whatever and that does OGG

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Re: [newbie] little OT gimp question

2004-07-18 Thread Thereidos
Dnia nie 18. lipca 2004 20:13, Stephen Kuhn napisa:
 On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 23:50, Thereidos wrote:
  Silly to ask but have anyone tried to move a layer around the canvas in
  gimp? I cannot find the way to do that... help :)

 I choose the layer in the navigation window and then can hover the mouse
 over the bit you want to move around (say, for instance, text) and I'm
 able to do it like that...or do you mean move an entire layer that is
 the image size?

I meant moving any layer, may it be image size, bigger or smaller...
Anyway thanks.. I think I'll go for Josenildo's 'M' button..
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Re: [newbie] Can't find RealPlayer

2004-07-18 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Monday 05 July 2004 12:14, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 23:00, Thomas Ewald wrote:
  Mandrake 10.0 had the smoothest installation of any distro of Linux
  I've used. I'm really happy with it.
 
  I tried installing RealPlayer, and the system says it's installed,
  but I can't find it anywhere, and the browser doesn't acknowledge
  it. Does anyone know where that puppy would be hiding?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Tom Ewald
  Detroit area

 It SHOULD be somewhere in your menus - but if not, just open a term
 and type: realplay

 ...that should fire it up...and if so, then you can manually edit the
 menus and add it

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[newbie] Re: Xmms crashes

2004-07-18 Thread John Zoetebier
Bryan Phinney wrote:

 On Thursday 08 July 2004 01:24 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote:
 
 I'd thought it had something to do with the Arts soundwrapper -
 which I remember solved another problem in the past but removing
 it from the xmms info in the menu tool didn't help.
 Seems like I resolved this in an earlier version of MDK but I'm
 coming up blank this time.
 Does this behavior sound familiar to anyone?
 
 Yes.  Install the xmms-aRts plugin and open up xmms, go to Options,
 preferences and under output plugins, select the newly installed Arts
 plugin. Change the buffering to your desire and you should be good to go.
 

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Re: [newbie] Grip on Mandrake 10

2004-07-18 Thread Aron Smith
On Sunday 18 July 2004 10:10 am, SME Server Admin wrote:
 Hi Folks

 Whats the setup to get Grip to rip CDs to MP3?

 At the moment I've got the encoding setup to oggenc because all the
 others wont work :(

 Others tried are: gogo, mp3encode, xingmp3enc, l3enc, lame, bladeenc

 For mp3encode for example I've got the following settings

 Encoder Command Line: -p 2 -l 3 -b %b %w %m
 Encoder File Format: ~/mp3/%A/%d/%t_%n.ogg

 If it's encoding to MP3 surely the extention of the file format should be
 mp3 not ogg?

 The error message I get is Invalid Encoder Executable Check your encoder
 config

 Which is where I am stuck.

 Help!

 Elwyn
! do you have lame installed  if not do you have plf as a urpmi source
if you do  then as root # urpmi lame
otherwise  go to  http://freshmeat.net/projects/lame/   and get the tarball
afterinstalling run updatedb and update-menus (as root)


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[newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning

2004-07-18 Thread Marv Boyes
I did a bad, bad thing, and I'm hoping that someone can help me with it.
I used Partition Commander to wipe out the Mandrake 9.1 partition on my 
secondary's machine's hard drive, then gave all of the free space to 
Windows [not to worry; it's a gaming machine. My primary box is still 
blissfully MS-free. ;) ].

The problem is that now Windows won't boot. I didn't restore my Windows 
bootloader beforehand, and when I try to do so now (the only way I know 
how, from the utility provided by the Mandrake 9.1 installation CD), I 
can only get so far in the process before Mandrake setup stops being 
able to read from the CD-ROM drive. So when I turn on the machine, I get 
this:

grub
I have no idea what do do with that. And without a /boot/grub/menu.lst, 
grub has no idea, either. I've been through all the help that grub 
provides, and none of it suggests an obvious solution.

Is there any hope of fixing this, so that I can boot Windows-- as 
installed --on that drive? Or am I facing a reinstall here? Any help 
would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in advance.

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Re: [newbie] OT? Running compiled kicker applets?

2004-07-18 Thread hackhound
I've fixed the problem with the --prefix=/usr option in configuration.
 If I remember correctly, the binary ended up in /usr/local/share or
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Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning

2004-07-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Marv Boyes wrote:
I did a bad, bad thing, and I'm hoping that someone can help me with
it.
I used Partition Commander to wipe out the Mandrake 9.1 partition on
my secondary's machine's hard drive, then gave all of the free space
to Windows [not to worry; it's a gaming machine. My primary box is
still blissfully MS-free. ;) ].
The problem is that now Windows won't boot. I didn't restore my
Windows bootloader beforehand, and when I try to do so now (the only
way I know how, from the utility provided by the Mandrake 9.1
installation CD), I can only get so far in the process before
Mandrake setup stops being able to read from the CD-ROM drive. So
when I turn on the machine, I get this:
grub
I have no idea what do do with that. And without a
/boot/grub/menu.lst, grub has no idea, either. I've been through all
the help that grub provides, and none of it suggests an obvious
solution.
Is there any hope of fixing this, so that I can boot Windows-- as 
installed --on that drive? Or am I facing a reinstall here? Any help
 would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in advance.

Marv
Try booting to DOS, and run fdisk /mbr and see if that fixes it. 
(Undocumented option in DOS fdisk to restore the Master Boot Record.)

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Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning

2004-07-18 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 18 July 2004 23:53, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Marv Boyes wrote:
  I did a bad, bad thing, and I'm hoping that someone can help me
  with it.
 
  I used Partition Commander to wipe out the Mandrake 9.1
  partition on my secondary's machine's hard drive, then gave all
  of the free space to Windows [not to worry; it's a gaming
  machine. My primary box is still blissfully MS-free. ;) ].
 
  The problem is that now Windows won't boot. I didn't restore my
  Windows bootloader beforehand, and when I try to do so now (the
  only way I know how, from the utility provided by the Mandrake
  9.1 installation CD), I can only get so far in the process
  before Mandrake setup stops being able to read from the CD-ROM
  drive. So when I turn on the machine, I get this:
 
  grub
 
  I have no idea what do do with that. And without a
  /boot/grub/menu.lst, grub has no idea, either. I've been
  through all the help that grub provides, and none of it
  suggests an obvious solution.
 
  Is there any hope of fixing this, so that I can boot Windows--
  as installed --on that drive? Or am I facing a reinstall here?
  Any help would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in
  advance.
 
  Marv

 Try booting to DOS, and run fdisk /mbr and see if that fixes
 it. (Undocumented option in DOS fdisk to restore the Master Boot
 Record.)

 Mikkel

...and if you can't even get into DOS, get a Windows rescue diskette 
from someone, boot from it and type : FDISK /MBR

or look here : http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy33.htm

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Re: [newbie] x-mplayer2

2004-07-18 Thread Paul Smith
_nasturtium wrote:
Thanks, _nasturtium. I have just installed KMPlayer, but the problem
persists at the problematic site:
http://www.tsf.sapo.pt/online/primeira/default.asp
I cannot hear anything at the site above.
Does KMPlayer work on any other sites (if not, do you see the embedded 
player)? Also, does downloading the file and playing it with KMPlayer or 
mplayer work?
_nasturtium,
I have not been able to have KMPlayer working on any other sites. 
However, it plays the mp3 files in my hard disk.

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Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning

2004-07-18 Thread Erylon Hines
On Sunday 18 July 2004 03:29 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
| On Sunday 18 July 2004 23:53, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
|  Marv Boyes wrote:
|   I did a bad, bad thing, and I'm hoping that someone can help me
|   with it.
|  
|   I used Partition Commander to wipe out the Mandrake 9.1
|   partition on my secondary's machine's hard drive, then gave all
|   of the free space to Windows [not to worry; it's a gaming
|   machine. My primary box is still blissfully MS-free. ;) ].
|  
|   The problem is that now Windows won't boot. I didn't restore my
|   Windows bootloader beforehand, and when I try to do so now (the
|   only way I know how, from the utility provided by the Mandrake
|   9.1 installation CD), I can only get so far in the process
|   before Mandrake setup stops being able to read from the CD-ROM
|   drive. So when I turn on the machine, I get this:
|  
|   grub
|  
|   I have no idea what do do with that. And without a
|   /boot/grub/menu.lst, grub has no idea, either. I've been
|   through all the help that grub provides, and none of it
|   suggests an obvious solution.
|  
|   Is there any hope of fixing this, so that I can boot Windows--
|   as installed --on that drive? Or am I facing a reinstall here?
|   Any help would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in
|   advance.
|  
|   Marv
| 
|  Try booting to DOS, and run fdisk /mbr and see if that fixes
|  it. (Undocumented option in DOS fdisk to restore the Master Boot
|  Record.)
| 
|  Mikkel
|
| ...and if you can't even get into DOS, get a Windows rescue diskette
| from someone, boot from it and type : FDISK /MBR
|
| or look here : http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy33.htm
|
| HTH
| Kaj Haulrich.

http://www.bootdisk.com

However, if you do go the re-install route, it shouldn't hurt anything--as 
long as you don't format the hd. .  A simple install over a previous copy of 
Windows is one way to repair a fubar'd Win system.

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Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning

2004-07-18 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Sunday 18 July 2004 05:44 pm, Marv Boyes wrote:

 Is there any hope of fixing this, so that I can boot Windows-- as
 installed --on that drive? Or am I facing a reinstall here? Any help
 would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in advance.

You didn't mention which version of windows you are running.

WinXP, 2K, NT -  Boot from the Windows CD, Choose Rescue mode and go to 
console.  Type fixmbr and allow it to recreate the windows bootloader.  
Remove CD and restart.

Win98, ME, and other 16 bit versions, Boot from the CD or boot floppy, get to 
a command prompt and type fdisk /mbr  (IIRC) and that should recreate the 
windows boot sector on the hard drive.

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Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning: SOLVED

2004-07-18 Thread Marv Boyes
Everything's cool. ;)
You see, the _real_ reason I panicked is that I was certain I didn't 
have a WinMe (the version, BTW-- sorry I didn't specify) boot floppy 
anywhere. Or if I did, there was no telling in which cardboard box of 
other woefully obsolete stuff it ended up in.

As it turns out, there was a dusty old boot floppy in a box of diskettes 
in my bottom desk drawer. Sometimes it pays to be a pack rat.

Thanks for your help everyone. Here's hoping I don't post another 
Windows-related question in here for a very long time. ;)


Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Sunday 18 July 2004 05:44 pm, Marv Boyes wrote:

Is there any hope of fixing this, so that I can boot Windows-- as
installed --on that drive? Or am I facing a reinstall here? Any help
would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in advance.

You didn't mention which version of windows you are running.
WinXP, 2K, NT -  Boot from the Windows CD, Choose Rescue mode and go to 
console.  Type fixmbr and allow it to recreate the windows bootloader.  
Remove CD and restart.

Win98, ME, and other 16 bit versions, Boot from the CD or boot floppy, get to 
a command prompt and type fdisk /mbr  (IIRC) and that should recreate the 
windows boot sector on the hard drive.




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Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning

2004-07-18 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 18 July 2004 05:53 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

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 Try booting to DOS, and run fdisk /mbr and see if that fixes it.
 (Undocumented option in DOS fdisk to restore the Master Boot Record.)

 Mikkel

Mikkel:
I believe that in the newer versions of Windows the command is now fixmbr. 
The new name is yet another Microsoft innovation aimed at improving the user 
experience; less keystrokes, and no more searches for that pesky / thing. 
Ah, progress.
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[newbie] Fw: Fw: Abbott Costello buy a computer

2004-07-18 Thread JoeHill

Begin forwarded message:

A clever parody of  Abbott and Costello's famous sketch Who's on first?  
  Costello calls to buy a computer from Abbott .. 

  ABBOTT: Super Duper computer store. Can I help you? 
  COSTELLO: Thanks. I'm setting up an office in my den and I'm thinking about
  buying a computer.   
  ABBOTT: Mac? 
  COSTELLO: No, the name's Lou. 
  ABBOTT: Your computer? 
  COSTELLO: I don't own a computer. I want to buy one. 
  ABBOTT: Mac? 
  COSTELLO: I told you, my name's Lou. 
  ABBOTT: What about Windows? 
  COSTELLO: Why? Will it get stuffy in here? 
  ABBOTT: Do you want a computer with Windows? 
  COSTELLO: I don't know. What will I see when I look in the windows? 
  ABBOTT: Wallpaper. 
  COSTELLO: Never mind the windows. I need a computer and software. 
  ABBOTT: Software for Windows? 
  COSTELLO: No. On the computer! I need something I can use to write proposals,
  track expenses and run my business. What have you got?
  ABBOTT: Office. 
  COSTELLO: Yeah, for my office. Can you recommend anything? 
  ABBOTT: I just did. 
  COSTELLO: You just did what? 
  ABBOTT: Recommend something. 
  COSTELLO: You recommended something? 
  ABBOTT: Yes. 
  COSTELLO: For my office? 
  ABBOTT: Yes. 
  COSTELLO: OK, what did you recommend for my office? 
  ABBOTT: Office. 
  COSTELLO: Yes, for my office! 
  ABBOTT: I recommend Office with Windows. 
  COSTELLO: I already have an office with windows! OK, lets just say I'm sitting
  at my computer and I want to type a proposal. What do I need?
  ABBOTT: Word. 
  COSTELLO: What word? 
  ABBOTT: Word in Office. 
  COSTELLO: The only word in office is office. 
  ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows. 
  COSTELLO: Which word in office for windows? 
  ABBOTT: The Word you get when you click the blue W. 
  COSTELLO: I'm going to click your blue w if you don't start with some
  straight answers. OK, forget that. Can I watch movies on the Internet?
  ABBOTT: Yes, you want Real One. 
  COSTELLO: Maybe a real one, maybe a cartoon. What I watch is none of your
  business. Just tell me what I need!   ABBOTT: Real One. 
  COSTELLO: If it's a long movie I also want to see reel 2, 3  4. Can I watch
  them?   ABBOTT: Of course. 
  COSTELLO: Great! With what? 
  ABBOTT: Real One. 
  COSTELLO: OK, I'm at my computer and I want to watch a movie. What do I do? 
  ABBOTT: You click the blue 1 . 
  COSTELLO: I click the blue one what? 
  ABBOTT: The blue 1. 
  COSTELLO: Is that different from the blue w? 
  ABBOTT: The blue 1  is Real One and the blue W is Word. 
  COSTELLO: What word? 
  ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows. 
  COSTELLO: But there's three words in office for windows! 
  ABBOTT: No, just one. But it's the most popular Word in the world. 
  COSTELLO: It is? 
  ABBOTT: Yes, but to be fair, there aren't many other Words left. It pretty
  much wiped out all the other Words out there.
  COSTELLO: And that word is real one? 
  ABBOTT: Real One has nothing to do with Word. Real One isn't even part of
  Office.   
  COSTELLO: STOP! Don't start that again. What about financial
  bookkeeping? You have anything I can track my money with?   ABBOTT: Money. 
  COSTELLO: That's right. What do you have? 
  ABBOTT: Money. 
  COSTELLO: I need money to track my money? 
  ABBOTT: It comes bundled with your computer 
  COSTELLO: What's bundled with my computer? 
  ABBOTT: Money. 
  COSTELLO: Money comes with my computer? 
  ABBOTT: Yes. No extra charge. 
  COSTELLO: I get a bundle of money with my computer? How much? 
  ABBOTT: One copy. 
  COSTELLO: Isn't it illegal to copy money? 
  ABBOTT: Microsoft gave us a license to copy money. 
  COSTELLO: They can give you a license to copy money? 
  ABBOTT: Why not? THEY OWN IT! 

  A FEW DAYS LATER...AFTER COSTELLO BUYS A COMPUTER: 

  ABBOTT: Super Duper computer store. Can I help you? 
  COSTELLO: How do I turn my computer off? 
  ABBOTT: Click on START. 

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Title: FW: Abbott & Costello buy a computer




Pretty cool 
Bud Abbott and Lou Costello's infamous sketch "Who's on first?" 
might have turned out something like this 
Costello calls to buy a computer from Abbott ... 
ABBOTT: Super Duper computer store. Can I help you? 
COSTELLO: Thanks. I'm setting up an office in my den and I'm 
thinking about buying a computer. ABBOTT: Mac? 
COSTELLO: No, the name's Lou. ABBOTT: 
Your computer? COSTELLO: I don't own a computer. I want 
to buy one. ABBOTT: Mac? COSTELLO: I told you, my name's Lou. ABBOTT: What 
about Windows? COSTELLO: Why? Will it get stuffy in 
here? ABBOTT: Do you want a computer with 
Windows? COSTELLO: I don't know. What will I see when I 
look in the windows? ABBOTT: Wallpaper. COSTELLO: Never mind the windows. I need a 

Re: [newbie] apt-get for Mandrake 10 Official

2004-07-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:13 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote:

 What is the advantage apt-get has over urpm*?  I used it only for a
 short amount of time on Debian and as far as I can tell, the urpm*
 suite of programs seem to be equivalent to apt-get.  But as I said, I
 am not fluent when it comes to apt-get.

On the command line, the differences are minimal IMO, but there is a large 
group of people that prefer the gui frontend called synaptic.  I am speaking 
for them here, but they prefer the integrated functionality as opposed to the 
simple approach taken by rpmdrake.

Personally, it doesn't much matter to me because I work primarily from the 
command line now, but as they say, difernt strokes for difernt folks.
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Re: [newbie] Noob question of the day

2004-07-18 Thread Eric Huff
 EH So, if i have xinetd and sshd running, is that duplicating
 EH services?
 
 Only if your xinetd configuration has sshd enabled under xinetd.
 If not, you can run xinetd and sshd simultaneously (since, like I
 said, xinetd is basically just a wrapper for services, and if sshd
 isn't enabled, it won't be served)
 
 EH Or does xinetd intercept calls and then pass them to sshd?
 
 Yes, xinetd does intercept incoming connections and passes them to
 the *xinetd* version of sshd. If you have a standalone version of
 sshd running, it won't get the connections that are accepted by
 xinetd.
 
 I know this is confusing, but just remember that you can have
 multiple instances of the same server daemon running (think of it
 as multiple web browser windows open at the same time).

Ok.  I just turned xinetd off, and everything stillseems to be
working...

Thanks for the rundown.

eric

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Re: [newbie] Big troubles after re-partitioning: SOLVED

2004-07-18 Thread Phil Savoie
Hey Marv,

I haven't followed the thread so don't know what help you have been given.  
However the follwing website may help for the future:

http://www.shaneo.com/bootdisks

Regards,

Phil


On July 18, 2004 20:02, Marv Boyes wrote:
 Everything's cool. ;)

 You see, the _real_ reason I panicked is that I was certain I didn't
 have a WinMe (the version, BTW-- sorry I didn't specify) boot floppy
 anywhere. Or if I did, there was no telling in which cardboard box of
 other woefully obsolete stuff it ended up in.

 As it turns out, there was a dusty old boot floppy in a box of diskettes
 in my bottom desk drawer. Sometimes it pays to be a pack rat.

 Thanks for your help everyone. Here's hoping I don't post another
 Windows-related question in here for a very long time. ;)

 Bryan Phinney wrote:
  On Sunday 18 July 2004 05:44 pm, Marv Boyes wrote:
 Is there any hope of fixing this, so that I can boot Windows-- as
 installed --on that drive? Or am I facing a reinstall here? Any help
 would be greatly appreciated; thanks very much in advance.
 
  You didn't mention which version of windows you are running.
 
  WinXP, 2K, NT -  Boot from the Windows CD, Choose Rescue mode and go to
  console.  Type fixmbr and allow it to recreate the windows bootloader.
  Remove CD and restart.
 
  Win98, ME, and other 16 bit versions, Boot from the CD or boot floppy,
  get to a command prompt and type fdisk /mbr  (IIRC) and that should
  recreate the windows boot sector on the hard drive.
 
 
 
  
 
  
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[newbie] same problem in mdk 10

2004-07-18 Thread Song
Hi All,
Just install Mandrake-10.0. Everything went OK without any kind of
problem. Lots of improvement in graphic. Love it for that! KDE is going
candy style IMHO. I've been always been a good GNOME Desktop guy. Except
only that it have the same problem as in Mandrake-9.2. This problem is
that I can't cycle my application windows with 'Alt-Tab'.I see that it's
config automatically.
If anybody is using GNOME Desktop in Mandrake-10.0, can you please tell
me if you have the same problem or how can you fix it.
TIA.
PS. Congratulation for the Mandrake Team.



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Re[2]: [newbie] Noob question of the day

2004-07-18 Thread Justin Grote

HB Ok I don't pretend to understand but mine are different can you explain
HB the relevance:
HB [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]$ nmap localhost -p 0-65535
HB WARNING:  Scanning port 0 is supported, but unusual.

HB Starting nmap 3.50 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-07-17 08:26
HB CDT
HB Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
HB (The 65528 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
HB PORT  STATE SERVICE
HB 25/tcpopen  smtp
HB 111/tcp   open  rpcbind
HB 631/tcp   open  ipp
HB 783/tcp   open  hp-alarm-mgr
HB 921/tcp   open  unknown
HB 6000/tcp  open  X11
HB 10026/tcp open  unknown
HB 32768/tcp open  unknown


Hi Hoyt,

nmap is a tool that scans open ports on your (or someone else's computer). As a quick 
refresher, these tcp ports are how other people access your computer's services (and 
how you access other's. For example, when you open a web browser to www.cisco.com, the 
browser is connection to port 80 of www.cisco.com, which is the HTTP port.

I asked for this information to find out why exactly he couldn't get there. THis 
information is useful to you too, however. For instance, you have port 25 open, which 
means that you are probably running a mail server such as postfix or sendmail (postfix 
is a default service in a default mandrake install). You also are running an X server 
(which is your KDE desktop), you are running CUPS (a print server, as indicated by 
port 631 (internet printing protocol) being open.


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Re: [newbie] SanDisk Cruzer Mini USB Flash Drive

2004-07-18 Thread Carl J. Bauman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 18 July 2004 01:56 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote:
-Okay, this is in the Boy, do I feel stupid category.  I was plugging
-it into a front-of-the-case USB slot and I guess I didn't hook it up
-correctly when I installed the mobo in this case.  After reading your
-response, I tried one of the rear onboard slots and it works fine.  Oh,
-well.  Sorry I wasted everybody's time...
-
-Thanks,
-Carl
Sometimes (like my Soyo Dragon Plus) you also have to turn it on in BIOS 
and/or hardware jumper on the motherboard itself.

Well, thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, but I'm pretty sure 
I just didn't get all of the little wires from the case hooked up to the 
right pins on the board.  The case cable for the front USB slots has 
individual leads for each USB pin on the board and I have big fingers 
and bad eyes.  It wouldn't be the first time I've screwed up on the 
detail work. 

I haven't had time to actually crack open the box and look at it but I 
did check the BIOS and everything seems to be enabled there.  The mobo 
manual doesn't indicate any hardware jumpers.

Thanks again,
Carl


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Re: [newbie] Setting up CPAN

2004-07-18 Thread Carl J. Bauman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For instance, the site tells me that I should do this:
cpan makepl_arg: LIB=/path/to/my/site_perl
but I don't know what Mandrake 10's /path/to/my/site_perl should be. 
You should be able to determine the path to your installations site_perl 
directory by issuing the following at the command line:

$ perl -V | tail -20
On my Mandrake 10.0 Official installation I get:
Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
 Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES 
PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
 Built under linux
 Compiled at Feb  3 2004 13:50:20
 @INC:
   /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
   /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.3
   /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
   /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3
   /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
   /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
   /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3
   /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi
   /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2
   /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi
   /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.1
   /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
   .

In my case, my site_perl directory is /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl.
HTH,
Carl


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[newbie] Blank LogDrake Mail Alerts

2004-07-18 Thread Jerry Cornelius
I asked about this 3 days ago and got one response which didn't help.  Every 
hour, about 24 times a day (though some are skipped), I'm getting an email 
which says it's a logDrake Mail Alert in the subject.  The body of the email 
has the date and time.  There is no other information.

Is it trying to tell me something?  If not, how do I disable this?  Isn't 
there supposed to be some text telling what the alert is about?

Here was the latest:

=-=-=

*** Sun Jul 18 22:01:00 PDT 2004 ***

=-=-=

As someone else pointed out, I already have a clock on my screen, so I don't 
need an email bulletin of the time.


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