Re: [newbie] Mandrake10 Community

2004-07-27 Thread John Wilson
On July 26, 2004 07:42 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Sunday 25 July 2004 05:36 pm, John Wilson wrote:
  On July 25, 2004 10:56 am, Keith Powell wrote:
   On Sunday 25 Jul 2004 18:39, PM wrote:
 
  snip
 
Mandrake Community was a beta, replaced by Official.
   
There's now 10.1 beta.
  
   Thanks for the information.
  
   I thought that Mandrake were keeping the 10 Community label. Didn't
   realise that it had changed to 10.1 beta
 
  The Community label is for public betas of Mandrake releases.  We all get
  to be guinea pigs before the rest of the world gets a crack at the
  official relase.

 That's the cynical view.  It is supposed to be the stabilization release
 that will be used to cut the next official release, and then updates go
 directly into the dist tree, unlike official, which sees all updates in the
 updates directory

 cooker \
 \ Community \---
  \ Official 

  In any event the new Community will be 10.1 which is still in alpha
  stage.

Actually I wasn't trying to be cyncial at all. :-)

To me a public/late beta is exactly what we're getting with the Community 
Edition.  And I'm not saying that it's a bad thing rather it's a good thing.  
It's a test on a much larger scale than Mandrake would otherwise be able to 
do and with some of the issues found in 10CE which were resolved by 10OE I'd 
say it's a very good plan.  One that I'm happy to be part of.

Now if we could just do something about bittorrent. :-)

ttfn

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[newbie] Link to cd backup tutorial

2004-07-27 Thread Graham Watkins
Hi guys,
A few days ago, someone posted a link to a tutorial on making backups 
that could be split to fit on cds.

I thought I'd saved the link but now I can't find it.  I've been to the 
archives and can't find it there either.

So if someone could see their way clear to posting it again, I would be 
most grateful

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[newbie] SpamAssasin with Evolution

2004-07-27 Thread RAT
How do I get Evolution work with SpamAssasin?

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Re: [newbie] Link to cd backup tutorial

2004-07-27 Thread Graham Watkins
Graham Watkins wrote:
Hi guys,
A few days ago, someone posted a link to a tutorial on making backups 
that could be split to fit on cds.

I thought I'd saved the link but now I can't find it.  I've been to the 
archives and can't find it there either.

So if someone could see their way clear to posting it again, I would be 
most grateful


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Re: [newbie] Link to cd backup tutorial

2004-07-27 Thread Trevor Rhodes
Graham,

And the link is

  A few days ago, someone posted a link to a tutorial on making backups
  that could be split to fit on cds.
 
  I thought I'd saved the link but now I can't find it.  I've been to the
  archives and can't find it there either.
 
  So if someone could see their way clear to posting it again, I would be
  most grateful

 Don't worry, I just found it. (Sod's Law)


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Re: [newbie] Link to cd backup tutorial

2004-07-27 Thread Graham Watkins
http://linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq=viewarticleartid=222page=1
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Re: [newbie] The Linux virus myth

2004-07-27 Thread Aron Smith
bascule wrote:
stephen,
i'd agree that a truly secure environment would prevent unknown programs from 
running, but a virus doesn't necessarily need root privs.
if i can write a shell script that runs as a user, that can wipe my user 
files, send mail with attachments, create a dotfile and a user cron job to 
run it, then so can a virus writer,
all that is required is that i be tricked into downloading the file/saving the 
attachment, making it executable and then running it, of course that involves 
a lot of social engineering compared to simply relying on a broken email 
client to do all that for you, but, let me say that again, but, in a world 
where every one switches to linux from windows there will be an awful lot of 
users on whom such social engineering will work.
you and i, and probably most everyone on this list at this moment in time are, 
almost by definition, the kind of people who like to know more than just how 
to click a mouse button, folk who like to learn about our machines, in doing 
so we will inevitably pick up skills of net hygiene, if not by deliberate 
learning then by a form of osmosis, surrounded by a culture of people who 
truly 'know better'.
one day that previous paragraph may no longer be true.
that is why a lot of old hands in the linux/bsd/unix world will seem to be 
anal about things like md5sums, pgp sigs on mails etc. not because they all 
move in a harsh 'cracker eat hacker' world (though some do), but because they 
can see the future, or at least one possible iteration of it, and getting 
those habits down now, before they become necessary, can't hurt any :)

bascule
On Monday 26 Jul 2004 8:05 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
The simple fact of the matter is that a virus cannot run in a secure
environment; you have to have root privileges in order to do so; hence
an attack on a linux box is generally from outside, and not inside -
unless someone was successful at running a rootkit on the machine in
question.



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i found this on Linux viruses
http://www.snake-basket.de/e/Linux-Wurm.txt



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Re: [newbie] The Linux virus myth

2004-07-27 Thread frankieh
bascule wrote:
  On Monday 26 Jul 2004 8:05 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:

The simple fact of the matter is that a virus cannot run in a secure
environment; you have to have root privileges in order to do so; hence
an attack on a linux box is generally from outside, and not inside -
unless someone was successful at running a rootkit on the machine in
question.
I can see it now,
Your accout has been temporairily disabled due to security issues.
please save this file somewhere, then open a terminal and type
unzip .zip
followed by:
chmod 755 .zip
then type:
./.sh
when nothing noticable happens, please ignore it and go back to what you 
where doing.
If you want to see the issues from roots perspective, then please type: 
su - before ./.sh

(it would be difficult to create a method of GUI usage that would work 
across kde/gnome/icewm/etc and all versions thereof.
and all mail clients and so on and so on but the command line would 
work everywhere...

so what would happen? well one of two things, a method like the above, 
or a much bigger virus that has logic to work out what window manager 
and apps are in place that can respond appropraitly to that widow 
manager type and version and the installed apps.
or something via shell,

on the upside, clamav is totally GPL, so it won't be long till it's 
installed by default, and that will happen long before linux starts 
needing it.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Lanman
JoeHill wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:57:50 -0400

Thanks for the tip, d00d, but I had an epiphany...well maybe that's giving it
too much significance...anyway, in a few days www.freeyourmachine.org should be
live and continuing my sinister plan to bore the world to death.
Joe; Not to worry! Your new domain is working, and so is your 
philosophy! Grin! But you need to update your contacts page,...

http://www.freeyourmachine.org/contact.php
Just thought I'd let you know. And while I'm on the subject, how's about 
some dancing girls and more images of Tux? Or maybe that cute little 
Linspire ditty AND some dancing girls, or some Linux links and some 
dancing gir,..You get the idea! Grin!

Tee Hee!
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Re: [newbie] Problem with konqueror.

2004-07-27 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 24 July 2004 17:53, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 02:45, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  On Saturday 24 July 2004 10:22, SME Server Admin wrote:
   Press F5 when you put a new disc in?
  
   Elwyn
 
  Thanks that works.  What does F5 do I never had to do that before?

 It refreshes the Konq window - so apparently you were seeing cached
 data in the Konq window - hence why I always tune my EIDE drives, and
 rarely use Konq (Rox works, Nautilus works sometimes for large data
 caches, MC works great, the cli even better)

Thanks when I get over some other problems I intend to investigate mc 
and cli works but not better much slower and more typing.

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[newbie]Camera with SD card

2004-07-27 Thread jacques
I have got a TRUST  910Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] digital Camera (plugged on USB) which 
works perfectly with MDK10 com.
 If I plug a SD 128mB card into the camera  , Linux doesn't see the cam 
anymore .
 During the boot , I get sda was added , but nothing appears on the 
desktop .
Nothing new in /etc/fstab , or in /proc/scsi/scsi (multiple LUNS ?); 
nothing new in /mnt/
(This camera is not supported by FLphoto ou DigiKam)
What to do ?( the SD card works with Windows Me) .
 Thanks  Jacques



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RE: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Tony S. Sykes



I 
have had a bad experience with godaddy so I could not recommend them 
myself.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Dennis DuffnerSent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:51 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] 
  [OT] Domain name expired...stupid meI didn't 
  put in the registrar I use on my previous post, but www.godaddy.com is a great 
  outfit to work with and the price is not out of this world either!At 
  09:57 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote:
  JoeHill wrote:
I went and let my domain name 
  expire, and I can't remember who I originallyregistered it 
  with.Even the 'whois' info is already gone :-(It comes up as 
  unavailable at Network Solutions, any way to get it back?Or is it so 
  stupid and inscrutable that I should just choose a new 
  one?'fuckmicrosoft' is, unfortunately, taken ;-)/joehill opens 
  hisself up to all the Don Rickles on the list...Joe; try 
"http://dotcanuck.com" 
. based out of Victoria, and they know their stuff. Extremely helpful guys. 
I use them for all my domains and for clients domains. Been 100% on the ball 
for 5 years.See? No Rickles! Maybe some Wrinkles, but No 
Rickles!LanmanWant 
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Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Jeff Reid



I've had good luck with www.registerfly.com , and I feel 
comfortable giving them a good recommendation.

Jeff


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tony S. Sykes 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:30 
AM
  Subject: RE: [newbie] [OT] Domain name 
  expired...stupid me
  
  I 
  have had a bad experience with godaddy so I could not recommend them 
  myself.
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dennis 
DuffnerSent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:51 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid meI didn't put in the registrar I use on my previous post, but www.godaddy.com is a 
great outfit to work with and the price is not out of this world 
either!At 09:57 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote:
JoeHill wrote:
  I went and let my domain name 
expire, and I can't remember who I originallyregistered it 
with.Even the 'whois' info is already gone :-(It comes up as 
unavailable at Network Solutions, any way to get it back?Or is it so 
stupid and inscrutable that I should just choose a new 
one?'fuckmicrosoft' is, unfortunately, taken ;-)/joehill opens 
hisself up to all the Don Rickles on the list...Joe; try 
  "http://dotcanuck.com" . based out of Victoria, and 
  they know their stuff. Extremely helpful guys. I use them for all my 
  domains and for clients domains. Been 100% on the ball for 5 
  years.See? No Rickles! Maybe some Wrinkles, but No 
  Rickles!LanmanWant 
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[newbie] MathML

2004-07-27 Thread EE
Does any of the Linux browsers support MathML?



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Re: [newbie] OT; An alternative to windows

2004-07-27 Thread Jeff Reid
I downloaded the OpenCD yesterday, and I'm looking forward to checking it
out!

Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: [newbie] OT; An alternative to windows


 I don't know how many of the list-members are aware of this, so I'll
 pass it along as an FYI bit.

 There are a number of sites offering ISO images of CD's containing
 Open-Sourced programs for Microsoft Windows. These are the 3 that I've
 found so far. Of the 3, the fist has the nicest installer and a good
 lineup of software, while the second seems to have the most software.

 http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/

 http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/

 http://osscd.sunsite.dk/

 For Windows users who haven't tried Open-Source (OS) software yet, one
 of these CD's is a good eye-opener to Linux and Open-Source apps, and it
 gives Windows users the ability to try typical Open-Source software
 before venturing into Linux. Once they're familiar with these, trying
 Linux probably won't be as difficult to try, especially if they see the
 same apps in Linux when they launch their desktops for the first time.

 Just thought you should know about them.

 Lanman










 
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Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread frankieh
You have? might I ask what type of bad experiance?
I ask becaues I've been using them for all my domains, so if there is a 
problem, I'd rather know about it now then later.

rgds
Franki
Tony S. Sykes wrote:
I have had a bad experience with godaddy so I could not recommend them 
myself.

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Re: [newbie] Spam Filter with Kontact

2004-07-27 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Sunday 25 July 2004 14:14, Erylon Hines wrote:
 On Saturday 24 July 2004 04:04 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 | I need to install filters but have forgotten how they should be set
 | up and at the moment I cant find my notes.  I have trained
 | spamassassin with enough email (spam  ham) so they should be
 | useful but cant get it to function.

 Are you talking about filters in Kontact (Kmail), or are you talking
 about rules for SA?
 If filters, the uk site is an excellent step-by-step.  For the *.cf
 rules, just download them and copy them to /etc/mail/spamassassin.
 Five of my favorites are antidrug.cf,backhair.cf,
 chickenpox.cf, Obfu.cf and weedsonly.cf.  Be sure to run
 spamassassin --lint because of a typo or two in backhair.

 I'm attaching my /home/username/.spamassassin/user_prefs as a guide
 to what is working for me.  Note that I am using SA 2.55, so you
 wouldn't want to use the am_biz section.  Also, note that I filter
 very aggressively at 4.0 hits, but still, false positives are
 extremely rare.
Thanks Erylon In the meantime I read the Settings drop down menu and 
there was a wizard there that took care of adding the proper filters 
and the first message input resulted in 27 spams.  Good show. I was 
aware of the cf.rules but for now I want to monitor and check the 
rejects.  My spam load is very low: Ham=4105 Spam=981 about 24%.
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RE: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Tony S. Sykes
I was doing a domain name transfer, the people who had it refused to transfer after 
about 1 month so I thought nothing of it, godaddy charged me each month for hosting 
the web site even though they were not hosting it. I noticed this after 4 months 
(don't check my account very often) and asked them for a refund, they refused as I had 
requested the domain transfer and did not cancel it after they emailed me with the 
confirmation that they could not host it. I stupidly assumed if they could not 
complete the transfer (host my site) the contract between us was broken and I would 
not be charged. However the contract is not broken till you cancel it even though the 
only service they are providing you with is the removal of your money from your bank 
account (Did that sound bitter?).

Tony. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of frankieh
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me
 
 
 You have? might I ask what type of bad experiance?
 
 I ask becaues I've been using them for all my domains, so if 
 there is a 
 problem, I'd rather know about it now then later.
 
 rgds
 
 Franki
 
 
 Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 
  
  I have had a bad experience with godaddy so I could not 
 recommend them 
  myself.
  
  -Original Message-
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 05:55:32AM -0400, Lanman wrote:
 
 Joe; Not to worry! Your new domain is working, and so is your 
 philosophy! Grin! But you need to update your contacts page,...
 
 
 http://www.freeyourmachine.org/contact.php
 
 Just thought I'd let you know. And while I'm on the subject, how's about 
 some dancing girls and more images of Tux? Or maybe that cute little 
 Linspire ditty AND some dancing girls, or some Linux links and some 
 dancing gir,..You get the idea! Grin!

Naked dancing girls? Tux is naked, is he not?

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Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Dennis Duffner


ROTFLMAO
At 10:50 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:57:50
-0400
Lanman disseminated the following:
  Or is it so stupid and inscrutable that I should just choose a
new one?
  'fuckmicrosoft' is, unfortunately, taken ;-)
  
  /joehill opens hisself up to all the Don Rickles on the
list...
 
 Joe; try
http://dotcanuck.com
. based out of Victoria, and they know 
 their stuff. Extremely helpful guys. I use them for all my domains
and 
 for clients domains. Been 100% on the ball for 5 years.
 
 
 See? No Rickles! Maybe some Wrinkles, but No Rickles!
Thanks for the tip, d00d, but I had an epiphany...well maybe that's
giving it
too much significance...anyway, in a few days
www.freeyourmachine.org
should be
live and continuing my sinister plan to bore the world to death.
-- 
JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org
23:48:29 up 12 days, 16:02, 5 users, load average: 2.19, 1.92, 1.85
+++
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Firefox TinyURL extension, was Re: [newbie] Link to cd backup tutorial

2004-07-27 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 09:36:56AM +0100, Graham Watkins wrote:
 
 http://linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq=viewarticleartid=222page=1

If y'all use Firefox and aren't using the TinyURL extension, get it now!
This great extension uses the tinyurl site to generate shortened url's
that are great for forwarding to friends and lists, something like
http://tinyurl.com/22hlv. The extension also saves the sites you've
tinyurl-ed. 

Not to criticize Graham, just a tip!

Todd

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[newbie] Program to serve as a database for the contents of CDs

2004-07-27 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All
I am looking for a program to serve as a database for the contents of my 
data CDs. Could somebody here give me some directions?

Thanks in advance,
Paul


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Re: Re: [newbie] Message could not be delivered

2004-07-27 Thread dennis

 
 From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/07/26 Mon PM 08:17:35 CDT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Message could not be delivered
 
 On Monday 26 July 2004 08:59 pm, Lanman wrote:
  et wrote:
   On Monday 26 July 2004 07:09 pm, Lanman wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The original message was included as attachment
  
  WTF??? the attached zip file seems to have a whack of virus files inside!
  
  Lanman
  
   so what do the whole headers look like?
 
  DoH! Forgot to look. Deleted the email, but it was sent to the list, so
  I figured that everyone got it. Didn't think about keeping it. My Bad.
 
  Lanman
 
 Is it in the archive at marc.theaimsgroup.com?
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2?
 
 maybe the list was a faked address?
 
 
 
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It was definitely a spoofed address cause I did not send it. My comp is totally 
Mandrake Linux and use kmail.  

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Re: [newbie] Problem with konqueror.

2004-07-27 Thread SME Server Admin
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2004 13:14, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 On Saturday 24 July 2004 17:53, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 02:45, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
   On Saturday 24 July 2004 10:22, SME Server Admin wrote:
Press F5 when you put a new disc in?
   
Elwyn
  
   Thanks that works.  What does F5 do I never had to do that before?
 
  It refreshes the Konq window - so apparently you were seeing cached
  data in the Konq window - hence why I always tune my EIDE drives, and
  rarely use Konq (Rox works, Nautilus works sometimes for large data
  caches, MC works great, the cli even better)

 Thanks when I get over some other problems I intend to investigate mc
 and cli works but not better much slower and more typing.

It refreshes most things. Works on Windows so wasnt really surprised it worked 
here as well :)

In Windows I was also used to Shift-Click a link to open in new window, and in 
Konq it's Ctrl-Click :)

Cheers

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Re: Re: [newbie] Message could not be delivered

2004-07-27 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 02:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2004/07/26 Mon PM 08:17:35 CDT
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Message could not be delivered
  
  On Monday 26 July 2004 08:59 pm, Lanman wrote:
   et wrote:
On Monday 26 July 2004 07:09 pm, Lanman wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The original message was included as attachment
   
   WTF??? the attached zip file seems to have a whack of virus files inside!
   
   Lanman
   
so what do the whole headers look like?
  
   DoH! Forgot to look. Deleted the email, but it was sent to the list, so
   I figured that everyone got it. Didn't think about keeping it. My Bad.
  
   Lanman
  
  Is it in the archive at marc.theaimsgroup.com?
   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2?
  
  maybe the list was a faked address?
  
  
  
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 It was definitely a spoofed address cause I did not send it. My comp is totally 
 Mandrake Linux and use kmail.  
 
 Dennis M.

Must be an issue with KMail...that, or must be something inherently from
Michigan.

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Re: [newbie] Program to serve as a database for the contents of CDs

2004-07-27 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 02:16, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All
 
 I am looking for a program to serve as a database for the contents of my 
 data CDs. Could somebody here give me some directions?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Paul

gtktalog

It's quick and easy to use.

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Re: [newbie]Camera with SD card

2004-07-27 Thread András Keszei
Back in Mandrake 9.2, I had something similar with a Minolta DimageX. 
When I first plugged it in, nothing happened.  Then the next time I
tried some days later, voila, it accepted it normally, meaning I could
mount it from root. It still wasn't automatically added to the desktop.
Then I just had to add the appropriate lines to /dev/fstab and create a
link on my desktop.  If you do see a /dev/sda, try mounting it manualy
after rebooting (hey I know this is linux and you don't have to reboot,
but I still don't know what individual processes need restarting).
From what I know, the camera's internal memory is CF based, and SD uses
different kernel thingys. Very professional. I'm just not on first name
basis with my kernel. Yet.
Hope this helps.
cheers
Andras



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 I have got a TRUST  910Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] digital Camera (plugged on USB) which 
 works perfectly with MDK10 com.
   If I plug a SD 128mB card into the camera  , Linux doesn't see the cam 
 anymore .
   During the boot , I get sda was added , but nothing appears on the 
 desktop .
 Nothing new in /etc/fstab , or in /proc/scsi/scsi (multiple LUNS ?); 
 nothing new in /mnt/
 (This camera is not supported by FLphoto ou DigiKam)
 What to do ?( the SD card works with Windows Me) .
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[newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread Paul
Hi everyone,

Lately more and more mail I send out gets intercepted and returned
through a system called Sorbs (http://www.dnsbl.nl.sorbs.net).

Seems that this is a system that is used by several mailservers to
verify 'official' mail servers. (Probably to weed out spammers.)

The message I get is 

host rbl.livjm.ac.uk[150.204.254.42] said: 521 The
IP xxx.xxx.xx.xx is Blacklisted by dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net.RDynamic IP
Address
See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=xxx.xxx.xx.xx (in
reply
to RCPT TO command)

When I look up my IP-address on that site I see:

Dynamic IP Space (LAN, Cable, DSL  Dial Ups)
Netblock:   217.120.0.0/14 (217.120.0.0-217.123.255.255)
Record Created: Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
Record Updated: Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
Additional Information: [Dynablock] Dynamic IP address, use your ISPs mail
server

Does anyone know how I can keep using Postfix instead of having to use
my ISPs mail server? The latter is down VERY much, making it a pita to
use.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Lanman
Dennis Duffner wrote:
ROTFLMAO

Dennis Duffner
It's allowed Dennis, but don't do it in public or on a crowded transit 
bus! That would be bad!

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Re: [newbie] Message could not be delivered

2004-07-27 Thread Lanman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was definitely a spoofed address cause I did not send it. My comp is totally Mandrake Linux and use kmail.  

Dennis M.
Didn't think it was you Dennis. When checking the archive, I saw that 
it came from someone else up the chain. Use the link above and you'll 
see what I mean. I was just surprised that this email might have gone 
thru normal channels, but I forgot to check the headers before posting 
back to the list.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] Domain name expired...stupid me

2004-07-27 Thread Lanman
Todd Slater wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 05:55:32AM -0400, Lanman wrote:
Joe; Not to worry! Your new domain is working, and so is your 
philosophy! Grin! But you need to update your contacts page,...

http://www.freeyourmachine.org/contact.php
Just thought I'd let you know. And while I'm on the subject, how's about 
some dancing girls and more images of Tux? Or maybe that cute little 
Linspire ditty AND some dancing girls, or some Linux links and some 
dancing gir,..You get the idea! Grin!

Naked dancing girls? Tux is naked, is he not?
Todd
Who said anything about Naked? Not me! That would be Politically 
IN-Correct! 2 or 3 strategically-placed Band-Aids would be OK, I 
suppose! Grin! Drool! Sneer!

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Re: [newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 03:12, Paul wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 Lately more and more mail I send out gets intercepted and returned
 through a system called Sorbs (http://www.dnsbl.nl.sorbs.net).
 
 Seems that this is a system that is used by several mailservers to
 verify 'official' mail servers. (Probably to weed out spammers.)
 
 The message I get is 
 
 host rbl.livjm.ac.uk[150.204.254.42] said: 521 The
 IP xxx.xxx.xx.xx is Blacklisted by dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net.RDynamic IP
 Address
 See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=xxx.xxx.xx.xx (in
 reply
 to RCPT TO command)
 
 When I look up my IP-address on that site I see:
 
 Dynamic IP Space (LAN, Cable, DSL  Dial Ups)
 Netblock: 217.120.0.0/14 (217.120.0.0-217.123.255.255)
 Record Created:   Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
 Record Updated:   Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
 Additional Information:   [Dynablock] Dynamic IP address, use your ISPs mail
 server
 
 Does anyone know how I can keep using Postfix instead of having to use
 my ISPs mail server? The latter is down VERY much, making it a pita to
 use.
 
 Paul

I do know that if you change your settings to directly send to your
ISP's smtp server, you won't get this error - what's happening is that
you're getting backlash from sending from your own server - postfix or
sendmail or what have you - so the name isn't being recognised as a fair
dinkum mail server - hence the error...


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Re: [newbie] OT; An alternative to windows

2004-07-27 Thread Tomas Tudja
Little help...
if somebody have downloaded an *.iso, it is no need to burn it, you can
extract the files from it under windows by using a Magic ISO Maker utility.
Search google to find a downloadable evolution version (1.7M)

Best Regards
Catcher

- Original Message -
From: Jeff Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] OT; An alternative to windows


 I downloaded the OpenCD yesterday, and I'm looking forward to checking it
 out!

 Jeff

 - Original Message -
 From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 8:25 PM
 Subject: [newbie] OT; An alternative to windows


  I don't know how many of the list-members are aware of this, so I'll
  pass it along as an FYI bit.
 
  There are a number of sites offering ISO images of CD's containing
  Open-Sourced programs for Microsoft Windows. These are the 3 that I've
  found so far. Of the 3, the fist has the nicest installer and a good
  lineup of software, while the second seems to have the most software.
 
  http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/
 
  http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/
 
  http://osscd.sunsite.dk/
 
  For Windows users who haven't tried Open-Source (OS) software yet, one
  of these CD's is a good eye-opener to Linux and Open-Source apps, and it
  gives Windows users the ability to try typical Open-Source software
  before venturing into Linux. Once they're familiar with these, trying
  Linux probably won't be as difficult to try, especially if they see the
  same apps in Linux when they launch their desktops for the first time.
 
  Just thought you should know about them.
 
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake10 Community

2004-07-27 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On July 27, 2004 01:36, John Wilson wrote:
...
 Now if we could just do something about bittorrent. :-)

 ttfn

 John

Actually, there is something we can all do about bittorrent, or at least those 
of us on high speed connections: leave your bittorrent client running, even 
after you've downloaded everything, so that other people can upload from you.

I did this for a while on the Windoze machine I used to download Mandrake in 
the first place. But I had to keep going on a vpn for work, which got in the 
way, I've been meaning to start doing it on my Mandrake box, but I don't have 
the iso's there at the moment.

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Re: [newbie] The Linux virus myth

2004-07-27 Thread flesh.99
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:44:43 +0800, frankieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 bascule wrote:
On Monday 26 Jul 2004 8:05 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 
 The simple fact of the matter is that a virus cannot run in a secure
 environment; you have to have root privileges in order to do so; hence
 an attack on a linux box is generally from outside, and not inside -
 unless someone was successful at running a rootkit on the machine in
 question.
 
 I can see it now,
 
 Your accout has been temporairily disabled due to security issues.
 please save this file somewhere, then open a terminal and type
 unzip .zip
 
 followed by:
 chmod 755 .zip
 
 then type:
 ../.sh
 
 when nothing noticable happens, please ignore it and go back to what you
 where doing.
 If you want to see the issues from roots perspective, then please type:
 su - before ./.sh
 
 (it would be difficult to create a method of GUI usage that would work
 across kde/gnome/icewm/etc and all versions thereof.
 and all mail clients and so on and so on but the command line would
 work everywhere...
 
 so what would happen? well one of two things, a method like the above,
 or a much bigger virus that has logic to work out what window manager
 and apps are in place that can respond appropraitly to that widow
 manager type and version and the installed apps.
 or something via shell,
 
 on the upside, clamav is totally GPL, so it won't be long till it's
 installed by default, and that will happen long before linux starts
 needing it.
 
 --
 rgds
 
 Frank Hauptle (aka Franki)
 http://htmlfixit.com

I apologize if I cover points already made, I am new to the list, so
please forgive me if that happens.

I have been arguing these points elsewhere for a long time and looking
at the problems with creating viruses for Linux. It would be easy to
destroy a users data with just a little social engineering, but the
problem with writing something to escalate priveleges and actually do
harm to the system itself becomes much more complicated and would
affect a limited number of systems for each iteration of the virus.
This is due to all the different kernel versions, gcc versions, etc.
Crackers tend to be the lazy sort and only exploit something easy
(unless they are after something specific) so writing viruses for
Linux wouldn't get them the same satisfaction as it does for Windows
at the very core of things.

When we saw slapper exploit ssl it was easy, because pretty much ever
version of SSL had the same vulnerabilities. I saw this firsthand
working for a webhosting provider, we got slammed by slapper as did a
lot of other companies. But with kernel exploits and the like, we
usually only saw those when someone targetted the systems. We
occasionally had script kiddies scan subnets and take gain access to a
few boxes that way, but it was very rare. Based on the observations of
how things got cracked and the way the slapper worm did it's work, I
came to the conclusion that I had been wrong about Linux viruses. I
originally thought we would see as many as there are for Windows if
the unwashed masses started using Linux, working at a large hosting
provider really changed my mind. Of course we will see a growth in
viruses, but the level of viruses on Windows is directly related to
the security problems in the OS itself, conversely when Linux becomes
more prevalent we will see more virus type activity, but it's not
possible for there to be near as much.

The other problem is simply one of educating new users as they start
to move away from Windows. If we don't do this we will have people
running as root all the time just like 'doze users run as
administrator all the time. We need to come up with a solution for
software installation, one that windows doesn't have and one that
Linux is currently lacking. Sure most of us could install anything we
want into our user space via the shell by simply changing the
./configure options, but my mom couldn't. I don't know of any distro
that does this, but a user space rpm would be a nice solution. The
main rpm command would be chrooted to the user space, this way in a
home environmant the users rarely if ever have to login as root except
to do os updates. Sort of a Mandrake Home Version or some such,
really aimed at protecting the users from themselves. XP Home fell
flat on it's face with the all or nothing security options, and it
wouldn't take much to develop this sort of installer for the home
users.

The other issue is the one that originally drew me to open source, and
that is choice. With everyone using different e-mail clients it
becomes harder to get viruses to propogate. In a home version the
defualt install could drop pine, sendmail, et al and not leave a real
way to propogate via e-mail from a simple script delivered via e-mail.
I could send something all day long designed to send via Thunderbird
to a friend using Sylpheed and accomplish nothing, this then goes back
to the laziness issue. It's just not fun to write 

[newbie] Linux OS Installers

2004-07-27 Thread Lanman
Does anyone know where I can find a GPL'ed installer application for the 
Linux Operating System? I am working on a project, and I need something 
like Anaconda. I can't use a LiveCD installer for this, since the 
finished project will not be a LiveCD. Also, it has to be for an 
RPM-based distro.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Sending email from a script

2004-07-27 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On July 22, 2004 07:47, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Wednesday 21 July 2004 05:54 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
  I don't want to run my own mail server (not at the moment). I rely on my
  isp for sending and receiving email.
 
  Is there a simple way to do this? Can I somehow tell kmail to do it for
  me? If not, can someone point me to some good instructions for
  configuring postfix to do what I need without interfering with email
  to/from my isp, and without opening up security holes in my system (e.g.
  an open relay).

 Look for and install a package called esmtp, that mirrors sendmail
 functionality but doesn't actually work as an MTA itself, it simply relays
 messages to your MTA of choice.  In essence, it provides you with full
 sendmail compatibility for scripts but it only relays messages just as your
 mail client would.

 There are a couple of other packages that do the same thing as well but
 esmtp is very simply to setup and configure for what you want it to do. 
 The only drawback is that it won't route local messages to your machine,
 you have to send to fully qualified email addresses because you are are
 relaying through an external server.  IOW, you can't send message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.

Thanks, esmtp is exactly what I needed.

It would have been nice if Mandrake installed this by default. I was trying to 
use the mail command, but it just dies with an error that /usr/sbin/sendmail 
is missing. But I suppose it wouldn't work anyway without a suitable config 
file.

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Re: [newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Paul wrote:
Hi everyone,
Lately more and more mail I send out gets intercepted and returned
through a system called Sorbs (http://www.dnsbl.nl.sorbs.net).
Seems that this is a system that is used by several mailservers to
verify 'official' mail servers. (Probably to weed out spammers.)
The message I get is 

host rbl.livjm.ac.uk[150.204.254.42] said: 521 The
IP xxx.xxx.xx.xx is Blacklisted by dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net.RDynamic IP
Address
See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=xxx.xxx.xx.xx (in
reply
to RCPT TO command)
When I look up my IP-address on that site I see:
Dynamic IP Space (LAN, Cable, DSL  Dial Ups)
Netblock:   217.120.0.0/14 (217.120.0.0-217.123.255.255)
Record Created: Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
Record Updated: Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
Additional Information: [Dynablock] Dynamic IP address, use your ISPs mail
server
Does anyone know how I can keep using Postfix instead of having to use
my ISPs mail server? The latter is down VERY much, making it a pita to
use.
Paul

There is not much you can do.  You will need to find a mail server to 
relay through.  I can see this becomming more of a problem in the 
future.  What may have to happen is for one of the places that manages 
DNS for sites with dynamic IPs to start offering a relaying mail server 
as part of the package.  Or posibly listing valid mail source IP 
addresses using something like http://spf.pobox.com.  Not much help for 
you right now though.  And changing maal programs, or your local 
configuration will not help, unless you have a server to realy through. 
 Maybe it is time to have a talk to your ISP, or start shopping for a 
new one with a better mail server?

The way I solved it was to pay for a web hosting that included a mail 
server.  At $10/year, it is worth it for me.  The web site is mainly a 
joke, and doesn't get much trafic, but the mail server gets a real workout.

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread Paul
Op Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:35:09 +1000 schreef Stephen Kühn:

 Lately more and more mail I send out gets intercepted and returned
 through a system called Sorbs (http://www.dnsbl.nl.sorbs.net).

I do know that if you change your settings to directly send to your
ISP's smtp server, you won't get this error - what's happening is that
you're getting backlash from sending from your own server - postfix or
sendmail or what have you - so the name isn't being recognised as a
fair dinkum mail server - hence the error...

Hi Stephen,

I already suspected something like that.
I'll give this a shot and hope the SMTP-server of my ISP plays nice now.
It has given me big problems in the past...

Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread flesh.99
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:01:26 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  Lately more and more mail I send out gets intercepted and returned
  through a system called Sorbs (http://www.dnsbl.nl.sorbs.net).
 
  Seems that this is a system that is used by several mailservers to
  verify 'official' mail servers. (Probably to weed out spammers.)
 
  The message I get is
 
  host rbl.livjm.ac.uk[150.204.254.42] said: 521 The
  IP xxx.xxx.xx.xx is Blacklisted by dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net.RDynamic IP
  Address
  See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=xxx.xxx.xx.xx (in
  reply
  to RCPT TO command)
 
  When I look up my IP-address on that site I see:
 
  Dynamic IP Space (LAN, Cable, DSL  Dial Ups)
  Netblock: 217.120.0.0/14 (217.120.0.0-217.123.255.255)
  Record Created:   Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
  Record Updated:   Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
  Additional Information:   [Dynablock] Dynamic IP address, use your ISPs mail
  server
 
  Does anyone know how I can keep using Postfix instead of having to use
  my ISPs mail server? The latter is down VERY much, making it a pita to
  use.
 
  Paul
 
  
 There is not much you can do.  You will need to find a mail server to
 relay through.  I can see this becomming more of a problem in the
 future.  What may have to happen is for one of the places that manages
 DNS for sites with dynamic IPs to start offering a relaying mail server
 as part of the package.  Or posibly listing valid mail source IP
 addresses using something like http://spf.pobox.com.  Not much help for
 you right now though.  And changing maal programs, or your local
 configuration will not help, unless you have a server to realy through.
   Maybe it is time to have a talk to your ISP, or start shopping for a
 new one with a better mail server?
 
 The way I solved it was to pay for a web hosting that included a mail
 server.  At $10/year, it is worth it for me.  The web site is mainly a
 joke, and doesn't get much trafic, but the mail server gets a real workout.
 
 Mikkel
 --
 
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
 for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
 
 
 
 
You can even get cheaper hosting than 10.00 a month that includes a
mailserver. I won't pimp the company I actually work for since that is
more than likely against list rules but you can get reliable hosting
if you only need the mailserver for pretty dang cheap. You don't even
need to register a domain, just use the IP of the server and you are
good to go. This is about the only solution. I fight with the
blocklists every day in the course of work and they are no fun, I have
come to really hate them. They may have a good concept behind them,
but the implementation really bites, and they don't seem to care even
one tiny bit.

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Re: [newbie] Linux OS Installers

2004-07-27 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 02:58:39PM -0400, Lanman wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can find a GPL'ed installer application for the 
 Linux Operating System? I am working on a project, and I need something 
 like Anaconda. I can't use a LiveCD installer for this, since the 
 finished project will not be a LiveCD. Also, it has to be for an 
 RPM-based distro.

I think mklivecd, based on MDK, lets you install, i.e. you don't have to
run it as a livecd. That's a pretty big think there, meaning I'm not
100% sure, but I built my own livecd with it and joined the list and
development is pretty active.

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Re:[newbie]Camera with SD card

2004-07-27 Thread Dave Ashmore
jacques wrote:
I have got a TRUST  910Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] digital Camera (plugged on USB) 
which works perfectly with MDK10 com.
 If I plug a SD 128mB card into the camera  , Linux doesn't see the 
cam anymore .
 During the boot , I get sda was added , but nothing appears on the 
desktop .
Nothing new in /etc/fstab , or in /proc/scsi/scsi (multiple LUNS ?); 
nothing new in /mnt/
(This camera is not supported by FLphoto ou DigiKam)
What to do ?( the SD card works with Windows Me) .
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I just went through this myself a week ago or so with Digikam.
My camera did not show up turns out it did show in /mnt/camera.
In digikam scroll to the bottom and select USB Mass Media.
You can label it anything you want then be sure and save it.
When you get to the camera selection be sure you don't click on any 
other selection first.
That seems to mess things up.
After that it should work.

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Re: [newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread flesh.99
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:27:25 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 flesh.99 wrote:
  On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:01:26 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Paul wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Lately more and more mail I send out gets intercepted and returned
 through a system called Sorbs (http://www.dnsbl.nl.sorbs.net).
 
 Seems that this is a system that is used by several mailservers to
 verify 'official' mail servers. (Probably to weed out spammers.)
 
 The message I get is
 
 host rbl.livjm.ac.uk[150.204.254.42] said: 521 The
 IP xxx.xxx.xx.xx is Blacklisted by dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net.RDynamic IP
 Address
 See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=xxx.xxx.xx.xx (in
 reply
 to RCPT TO command)
 
 When I look up my IP-address on that site I see:
 
 Dynamic IP Space (LAN, Cable, DSL  Dial Ups)
 Netblock: 217.120.0.0/14 (217.120.0.0-217.123.255.255)
 Record Created:   Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
 Record Updated:   Mon Nov 24 18:27:07 2003 GMT
 Additional Information:   [Dynablock] Dynamic IP address, use your ISPs mail
 server
 
 Does anyone know how I can keep using Postfix instead of having to use
 my ISPs mail server? The latter is down VERY much, making it a pita to
 use.
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 There is not much you can do.  You will need to find a mail server to
 relay through.  I can see this becomming more of a problem in the
 future.  What may have to happen is for one of the places that manages
 DNS for sites with dynamic IPs to start offering a relaying mail server
 as part of the package.  Or posibly listing valid mail source IP
 addresses using something like http://spf.pobox.com.  Not much help for
 you right now though.  And changing maal programs, or your local
 configuration will not help, unless you have a server to realy through.
   Maybe it is time to have a talk to your ISP, or start shopping for a
 new one with a better mail server?
 
 The way I solved it was to pay for a web hosting that included a mail
 server.  At $10/year, it is worth it for me.  The web site is mainly a
 joke, and doesn't get much trafic, but the mail server gets a real workout.
 
 Mikkel
 --
 
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
 for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
 
 
 
 
 
  You can even get cheaper hosting than 10.00 a month that includes a
  mailserver. I won't pimp the company I actually work for since that is
  more than likely against list rules but you can get reliable hosting
  if you only need the mailserver for pretty dang cheap. You don't even
  need to register a domain, just use the IP of the server and you are
  good to go. This is about the only solution. I fight with the
  blocklists every day in the course of work and they are no fun, I have
  come to really hate them. They may have a good concept behind them,
  but the implementation really bites, and they don't seem to care even
  one tiny bit.
  
 I pay $10.00 for a year, not a month.  So I gess $0.84 is fairly cheap.
   Besides, it keeps my domain name active.  (It is actualy something
 like $10.04/year, but close enough...)
 
 
 
 Mikkel
 --
 
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 for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!

I totally misread what you typed, yeah .84 is really nice! WIth all
the RBL issues going on there might just be a market for a reliable
SMTP only service, it could be provided cheaply and setup securely.
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Re: [newbie] www.eslrahc.com fallen over?

2004-07-27 Thread flesh.99
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:41:45 -0400, Charles A Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:40:26 +0100
 Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 
  I tried to get a rpm down from Charles site and was getting 404
  errors. I assume I'm not the only one?
 
  Hope its nothing too serious Charles and you get back up and running
  soon.
 
 
 I posted this to the expert list and am coping it here as it pertains to
 your query
 
 On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:33:31 -0400
 David Relson wrote:
 
  1000MB/month for $0 extra
  20GB/month for $7.95 extra
 
  I don't know which plan he has.  I didn't see a plan with greater
  download capacity, so if he's at 20GB there may not be room for
  expansion.  (Of course I didn't read _everything_ the hosting service
  has posted).
 
 (My apologizes to David who is seeing part of this for a 2nd time)
 
 I use a hosting site and have a 30gb traffic allowance.
 
 Normally that is adequate as dls run just under 1gb per day.
 This month though traffic has been nearly 1.5gb per day so I have now
 exceeded my limit for the month.
 
 Fraid that means my site will be 'down' until Aug 1 (Sun) )-:
 
 I am looking at increasing that allowance by an additional 10GB per
 month.
 Am already at the highest tier that is normally offered so the request
 for additional 1st needs go through CS to make that increase option
 avaiable for my account.
 
 As it will not break me financially, yet anyway (-:, I appreciate those
 who have suggested monetary assistance,that is not necessary.
 
 As long as the allowance I have is needed/used I have no qualms with
 paying to have it increased.
 I just do not want to pay for more than will be normally used.
 
 For those who do wish to assist, all I ask is that you continue to dl
 the rpms I offer and to promote my site to others (plug it on your site
 if you have one).
 The more it is used the better I feel about the money/time spent in
 maintaining the site, special thanks here to John, and the rpms that
 can be found therein.
 
 Charles
 
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 (By Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center)
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 http://www.eslrahc.com
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Would you be willing to let folks mirror for you? I have a server
right now doing pretty much nothing. I would be willing to mirror for
the 4 days and maybe even longer if you need it. Just a thought...

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Re: [newbie] The Linux virus myth

2004-07-27 Thread flesh.99
-- SNIP --
 
  
 Setting up the commands to install RPM's in userspace would not be that
 hard.  Most of the framework is already there.  You can tell RPM to use
 a database in the user's home direstory instead of the system database.
   The bigest problem is that most RPMs are not relocatable.  They can
 be, but most packagers do not do the extra work invloved.  This is
 understandable, because most RPMs are installed as root, and when
 installed this way, they do not need to be relocatable.  Also, some of
 the programs do not handle being relocated well.  They look for config
 files in specific places, or expect to be located in specific places.
 But it would not be hard to make a large number of the GUI programs user
 installable.  Most look for config files in the user's home directory
 any way.  It is also possible for each user to have their own menues.
 It gets interesting when you install a new system program, as the user's
 own menu may not get updated with the new program.  But this could be
 solved by checking the date of the system menu, and updating the local
 menu, or offering this as an option to the user, when the system menu is
 newer...
 
 About the only thing that I can think of that would require some change
 is to have the userspace installer check the system RPM database for
 programs and dependencies before checking the user RPM database.  That
 way, the user would not install local software that is already installed
 as system software.  You might also run into problems when upgrading
 system software, where the upgrade breaks user software.  I am not sure
 how to handle that...
 
 Well, enough rambling
 
 Mikkel
 --
 
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 for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
 
 
 
 
One thing that could be done is make the system RPM database readable
but not writable by the users, this would cut down on redundancy on
deps installed in user space. It would take some writing, but you have
cron that updates the main db off of the users db's nightly to cover
breaking stuff. Their stuff gets added to the main rpm db every night.
The next step would take a little rewriting of rpm, have the db have a
flag for user space or system installs and the root user could then
decide if they wanted to break stuff by upgrading system libs and
such.

The menuing qouldn't be all that hard really, just have the menu
update off of the system menu at each login, pull the system entries
into the user specific menu. You could also build in a refresh
function that does the same thing. This takes care of menuing for the
users as well as some other little issues I have seen in menus at
times.

Now if only I knew C I would be starting work :) It's on my list of
things to learn as I have other projects I want to get involved with,
but this seems to be a decent idea. The concept of a user space
installer is good, the other idea I had that would involve much more
work was to set everything to run in a sandbox, allow the users a kind
of sudo to install software but have it all install into sandboxes to
protect the OS itself, but that requires much more work than it might
be worth.

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Re: [newbie] Linux OS Installers

2004-07-27 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 04:58, Lanman wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can find a GPL'ed installer application for the 
 Linux Operating System? I am working on a project, and I need something 
 like Anaconda. I can't use a LiveCD installer for this, since the 
 finished project will not be a LiveCD. Also, it has to be for an 
 RPM-based distro.
 
 TIA
 
 Lanman

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Re: [newbie] x-mplayer2

2004-07-27 Thread Paul Smith
_nasturtium wrote:
I have not been able to have KMPlayer working on any other sites. 
However, it plays the mp3 files in my hard disk.
Do you have xine installed? I'm not sure if mplayer supports .asx.
(For xine, you might have to link directly e.g.
http://10.133.169.15:80/tsfdirecto instead of
www.tsf.sapo.net/tsfdirecto.asx).
Hi, _nasturtium,
Thanks for your reply. Meanwhile, I was able to solve the problem: I 
have installed CrossOver (http://www.codeweavers.com/) and, now, I can 
use Internet Explorer 6 and Windows Media Player under Linux.

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Re: [newbie] Spammassassin: spamd consuming 90%+cpu time

2004-07-27 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Monday 26 July 2004 14:36, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 03:12, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 18:04, Stephen Kühn wrote:
   On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 07:19, Rob Blomquist wrote:
Try using spamc as spamd is just a wrapper for spamc I
understand.
   
I filter using SA from within Kmail, and when I used spamd, I
had my Kmail come to a halt while messages were being filtered,
Now with spamc, there is only a short pause, and everything is
running.
  
   I wish I could, but ya see, my system is setup as a global mail
   server (for Tina and myself) - so the configuration I'm using is
   system wide, hence not being able to use it from within
   Evolution; I try to mirror my client's setups; clamd is smaller
   than calling SA proper.
 
  Tell me please that you are NOT running these server programs on
  your workstation rather than a seperate server box.
 
  LX

 I wish I could - but until I have the time to take this lowly P200 I
 have sitting next to my workbench and turn IT into a mail server,
 well, my workstation IS the server...time, my friend...time...and
 resource...but eventually, I will move all server related services
 to another box...(oh, yeah, it takes MONEY too, forgot to mention
 that)

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Re: [newbie] Spammassassin: spamd consuming 90%+cpu time

2004-07-27 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 04:21, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 On Monday 26 July 2004 14:36, Stephen Kühn wrote:
  On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 03:12, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
   On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 18:04, Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 07:19, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 Try using spamc as spamd is just a wrapper for spamc I
 understand.

 I filter using SA from within Kmail, and when I used spamd, I
 had my Kmail come to a halt while messages were being filtered,
 Now with spamc, there is only a short pause, and everything is
 running.
   
I wish I could, but ya see, my system is setup as a global mail
server (for Tina and myself) - so the configuration I'm using is
system wide, hence not being able to use it from within
Evolution; I try to mirror my client's setups; clamd is smaller
than calling SA proper.
  
   Tell me please that you are NOT running these server programs on
   your workstation rather than a seperate server box.
  
   LX
 
  I wish I could - but until I have the time to take this lowly P200 I
  have sitting next to my workbench and turn IT into a mail server,
  well, my workstation IS the server...time, my friend...time...and
  resource...but eventually, I will move all server related services
  to another box...(oh, yeah, it takes MONEY too, forgot to mention
  that)
 
  stephen kuhn - proprietor
 time=money

How well I know that one mate; meanwhile, just by chance, after doing a
reboot of the system (I hate doing that) spamd doesn't seem to be eating
up much resource - and I only removed the one recipe...strange
that...but I'm still going to get that other box up and running; I've
also changed my one email account that gets spammed the most - so that
will help ease the tension...

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Re: [newbie] Linux OS Installers

2004-07-27 Thread Lanman
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 04:58, Lanman wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find a GPL'ed installer application for the 
Linux Operating System? I am working on a project, and I need something 
like Anaconda. I can't use a LiveCD installer for this, since the 
finished project will not be a LiveCD. Also, it has to be for an 
RPM-based distro.

TIA
Lanman

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Re: [newbie] Linux OS Installers

2004-07-27 Thread Tobinator Stark
Try going to redhat's website

- Original Message -
From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:08:24 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux OS Installers

 Stephen Kühn wrote:
  On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 04:58, Lanman wrote:
  
 Does anyone know where I can find a GPL'ed installer application for the 
 Linux Operating System? I am working on a project, and I need something 
 like Anaconda. I can't use a LiveCD installer for this, since the 
 finished project will not be a LiveCD. Also, it has to be for an 
 RPM-based distro.
 
 TIA
 
 Lanman
  
  
  BitRock InstallBuilder:
  
  http://www.icewalk.com/Linux/Software/521230/BitRock-InstallBuilder.html
  
  
  stephen kuhn - proprietor
 
 Thanks Stephen. This may also be useful.
 
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Re: [newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 01:12 pm, Paul wrote:

 Does anyone know how I can keep using Postfix instead of having to use
 my ISPs mail server? The latter is down VERY much, making it a pita to
 use.

There are three possible solutions to this problem.

1.  You can contact the ISP that is rejecting your mail based on the IP 
designation as dynamic space and ask them to stop doing that.  IMO, that is 
very unlikely to work.  For each responsible person like yourself running a 
secure mail server on a secure OS, there are 200 Windows machines that have 
either been exploited already or are waiting to be exploited and turned into 
spam spewing zombie machines.

2.  You can smart host through an ISP server or pay someone to allow you to 
relay through their server.  This is the likeliest solution.

3.  You can buy a domain, get DNS server for the domain and setup Sender 
Policy Framework records that get updated with your dynamic IP address and 
hope that the ISP currently rejecting your mail will implement it and allow 
that to override the dynamic space blocklist that they currently use.  I 
wouldn't count on this solution currently, but it is MUCH more likely to work 
in a year or so from now.  Of course, the converse is that you are much less 
likely to be able to operate your own mail server a year from now unless you 
own a domain and control dns records for that domain.

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Re: [newbie] Sending email from a script

2004-07-27 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 02:20 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:

 Thanks, esmtp is exactly what I needed.

 It would have been nice if Mandrake installed this by default. I was trying
 to use the mail command, but it just dies with an error that
 /usr/sbin/sendmail is missing. But I suppose it wouldn't work anyway
 without a suitable config file.

Correct.  Also, Mandrake installs Postfix by default if you tell it you want 
to operate a mail server.  esmtp won't coexist with Postfix since they both 
offer compatibility with sendmail.
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Re: [newbie] Sorbs/Postfix

2004-07-27 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 03:16 pm, flesh.99 wrote:

 good to go. This is about the only solution. I fight with the
 blocklists every day in the course of work and they are no fun, I have
 come to really hate them. They may have a good concept behind them,
 but the implementation really bites, and they don't seem to care even
 one tiny bit.

Of course, the RBL's are only publishing lists of IP space, just as a 
newspaper might publish crime statistics.  If people avoid a neighborhood 
because the paper is printing a list of all the robberies in your area, you 
would be a fool to blame the reporters for a loss of business or 
inconvenience to yourself who live there.  You would be much more accurate to 
blame the criminals robbing visitors.

The choice is either move to a better neighborhood or take drastic action to 
clean up your own.  Just because the crack house is cheaper than a nice one 
doesn't mean that I am justified in buying it and then complaining because my 
friends and neighbors refuse to come and visit me.
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[newbie] Install troubles on Toshiba notebook - Mandrake 10.0

2004-07-27 Thread Wafa Hakim
Hi all,
First up, let me introduce myself. I'm Wafa, a grad student of 
economics,  I've been running various versions of Mandrake for over a 
year now - I started with 9.0  now have 9.2 running smoothly on a Dell 
desktop at home.

The problem is with my Toshiba A45-S121 notebook, on which I'm trying to 
install Mandrake 10.0. I've kept a 10 GB unformatted partition for it; 
the rest of my hard drive is being used by WinXP, across two NTFS  one 
FAT32 partition.

The problem: When I boot from the Mandrake install cd, less than a 
minute into the install process (after choosing a standard graphical 
install), I get an error saying Unable to create ramdrive. I looked at 
the kernel errors  logs,  there was something on the lines of the 
installer trying to access blocks of memory that do not exist. When I 
hit the space bar to indicate 'ok', the install continues. I reach the 
language selection screen,  am able to use my USB mouse to select  
click 'Next'. However, the minute I click 'Nest', the installer 
vanishes,  I am back to the text screen. It starts to shut down, i.e. I 
get messages saying Sending TERM signalsending killall to all 
processes ... etc. It then says It is now safe to restart your 
machine. Looking at the lines above this, I noticed that XFree86 had 
been unable to load a number of modules.

This process happened identically twice; once when I hit enter at the 
main screen,  the next time when I hit f1 at the first menu  then 
typed 'linux' at the next menu.

Some basic specs of the machine:
HDD_Int:  Intel ICH4-M
Sound:ANALOG DEVICES AD1981B
VGA:  Intel 852GME
CPU:  Intel Celeron 2800M
RAM:  PC2100
Modem:Softmodem (Lucent SCORPIO)
USB:  Intel ICH4-M (USB2.0)
CD_Int:   Intel ICH4-M
PCMCIA:   Toshiba ToPIC100 (Intel 82365 comp)
Chipset:  Intel 852GME
Network:  Intel 82562ET (Kinnereth)

Should I just try installing 9.2, which I know works fine on my home 
machine,  then upgrade 9.2 to the 2.6 kernel, since that contains some 
newer acpi support that this laptop needs?

Or is there a way out of this?
Thanks in advance...
Regards,
Wafa.
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Re: [newbie] Install troubles on Toshiba notebook - Mandrake 10.0

2004-07-27 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 07:27 pm, Wafa Hakim wrote:

 Should I just try installing 9.2, which I know works fine on my home
 machine,  then upgrade 9.2 to the 2.6 kernel, since that contains some
 newer acpi support that this laptop needs?

You might try adding the linux noapic line to see if that gets you any 
further.  You can also try to add the acpi=off line to see if that helps.

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Re: [newbie] Install troubles on Toshiba notebook - Mandrake 10.0

2004-07-27 Thread Wafa Hakim
Hi,
Thanks - I tried it, but no luck. I got exactly the same error messages, 
when I tried linux noapic  then again when I tried acpi=off.

Here are the errors, in more detail:
First, there is a dialog box saying:
Could not uncompress second stage ramdisk. There was probably a hardware 
error in reading data.

The logs for this stage said:
trying to load /tmp/image/Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.bz2 as a ramdisk
reading compressed ramdisk: IO_ERROR
unsetting automatic
The kernel messages at this stage were:
hdc:rw=0, want=1351260, limit=1262784
Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 337814
Then the install continued. A small line at the bottom of the screen 
appeared, saying VERSION file missing. Then the language screen came.

At the language screen, for fun I tried selecting another language. 
Anyway, same story; I clicked 'Next', screen exits. I saw the following 
error messages on the screen:
Couldn't open RGB_DB 'usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
Gdk-warning: locale not supported
GLib-warning: getpwuid_r() failed due to unknown user id(0) at 
usr/bin/perl-install/install_gtk.pm line 229

 then the sending term signal, sending killall signal, etc;  finally 
it tells me it is now safe to restart your computer.

Sorry if these messages are less than 100% accurate; I was scribbling 
them down with a pencil as they appeared. :)

Once again, thanks in advance...hope this can be figured out! I like 
Mandrake too much to want to try another distro just yet...

Regards,
Wafa.
Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No
matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got
there first, and is waiting for it.
   --Terry Pratchett
Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 07:27 pm, Wafa Hakim wrote:

Should I just try installing 9.2, which I know works fine on my home
machine,  then upgrade 9.2 to the 2.6 kernel, since that contains some
newer acpi support that this laptop needs?

You might try adding the linux noapic line to see if that gets you any 
further.  You can also try to add the acpi=off line to see if that helps.




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Re: [newbie] Install troubles on Toshiba notebook - Mandrake 10.0

2004-07-27 Thread Bill Spatz
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On Tuesday 27 July 2004 06:22 pm, Wafa Hakim wrote:

 First, there is a dialog box saying:
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This sounds to me as one of the following:

a - bad burn of the iso
b - CD drive done gone south for the winter

Bill
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Re: [newbie] Won't play MIDI

2004-07-27 Thread Josenildo Marques
Em Qua, 2004-07-21 às 02:32, David E. Fox escreveu:
 No go (at least for the first part) -- there is just nothing coming out
 of the speakers. Other sounds work. I tried Test Sound in KDE config
 menu under Sound - OK on Test Sound but nothing on Test Midi.
 
 I may try the other possible method listed in that file next, probably
 tomorrow or another day. Should you get this working in 10.0, please
 advise.
 
 One point - the content of my /etc/modules.conf ATM looks like:
 
 
 probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
 probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
 alias agpgart via-agp
 alias eth0 tulip
 above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
 options snd-emu10k1 enable=1
 
 I'm confused slightly on these settings. When my box boots up, I
 definitely see the Using Alsa driver emu10k1 message. Now IIRC, the
 snd part means I'm using the ALSA, right? The line above  tells me
 I'm using oss though, if I interpret it correctly. I did fiddle with the
 settings a couple of times, and through a number of reboots later got it
 to finally spit out Using ALSA driver but I'm thinking that the
 particular driver was always there -- because when I launch kmix I get
 a large number of sliders (with the other driver I only get a few, and a
 missing /dev/sequencer. (Trying to cat a midi to /dev/sequencer results
 in a no space left on device message).
 
 The second part mentions kmidi, which I do not seem to have. But if I
 run urpmi kmidi I get everything already installed - but no output
 if I do urpmf /usr/bin/kmidi. Seems perhaps I'll need to rerun urpmi.
 I did that, still no kmidi, that package seems to not be part of 10.0.

Sorry I took so long to respond.
I've just done and it is working like a charm. I have a Sound Blaster
Live! card. Here is the content of my modules.conf file.

probeall usb-interface usb-ohci
alias sound-slot-1 snd-emu10k1
above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss
alias eth0 3c59x
above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-cmipci

As you can see, they're pretty much the same, so I guess you're running
Alsa.
The article whose link I sent says we have to install the following
packages: awesfx and awesfx-devel. So, I did it.
Then, I created the directory /usr/share/midi and copied the sound fonts
to the newly-created directory

# cp /mnt/cdrom/AUDIO/COMMON/SFBANK/8MBGMSFX.SF2 /usr/share/midi

And, finally, I ran the command below to load the sound fonts

# sfxload /usr/share/midi/8MBGMSFX.SF2

The trick here is to run that command every time Linux boots up.
otherwise the fonts won't load up again.
I started Kmid (not Kmidi) and chose the second MIDI device. Then I
opened a .kar file and it all worked. A .kar file is just like a .mid
file; the difference is that .kar files have text.
I also have Timidity installed and it's playing .mid files flawlessly.
If you're using KDE, you probably have to kill Arts before playing midi
files. There's also playmidi, which you might want to check out. Just
urpmi it.
Let me know how it goes.
HTH
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Re: [newbie] kernel.h and lilo

2004-07-27 Thread Terence Golightly
Mikkell/List:

See below:


On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 13:06, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Terence Golightly wrote:
  List,
  
  I just got done upgrading to a new kernel and cleaning up my lilo.conf
  of older kernel and src versions, when I noticed:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] terryg]$ ls -l /boot
  total 6276
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root 512 Feb  7 14:58 boot.0300
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root 512 Jan 19 12:42 boot.1600
  
  What are the above two?
  
 If I remember correctly, they are boot record save files.  Not real 
 usefull unless you want to uninstall lilo.
 
  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  30 Jul 17 11:54 config -
  config-2.6.3-15mdk-i686-up-4GB
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root   56579 Jun 18 02:07
  config-2.6.3-14mdk-i686-up-4GB
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root   56580 Jul  2 22:50
  config-2.6.3-15mdk-i686-up-4GB
  
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root5032 Feb 19 12:03 diag1.img
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root   16796 Feb 19 12:03 diag2.img
  
  What are those two above?
  
 They are part of the lilo package.  Used for debugging?
 
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root root4096 May  2 11:03 grub/
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root  247691 Jul 17 11:47
  initrd-2.6.3-14mdk-i686-up-4GB.img
  -rw-r--r--  1 root root  147590 Jul 17 11:19
  initrd-2.6.3-15mdk-i686-up-4GB.img
  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  34 Jul 17 11:19 initrd.img -
  initrd-2.6.3-15mdk-i686-up-4GB.img
  
  
  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  38 Jul 17 11:27 kernel.h
  -/boot/kernel.h-2.6.3-14mdk-i686-up-4GB -rw-r--r--  1 root root 537
  Jun 27 12:38 kernel.h-2.6.3-14mdk-i686-up-4GB
  
  Is this a problem?  I still have installed the 14 kernel src as well as
  the newer 15 kernel src and the file /usr/src/linux is slinked to the
  newer kernt which will be the new default.
  
 This link is changed to reflect the kernel you booted with.  It should 
 always point to the currently running kernel .h file.

So if I reboot to the new kernel, the system will automatically update
the kernel.h file? Sorry about the long span between replies, I got
caught up in installing games :).


Terry



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[newbie] My Web site

2004-07-27 Thread Charles A Edwards
For those who may have noticed or were concerned
my site is Now Back Online



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Re: [newbie] Spam Filter with Kontact

2004-07-27 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 10:32 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:

 whack

 My spam load is very low: Ham=4105 Spam=981 about 24%.

Hoyt:
I wouldn't call 24% low -- my personal scream and yell threshold is about 15%, 
and I'm running comfortably below that at present. My ISP runs a reasonably 
effective spam filter (IIRC, Brightmail). Although things started to get out 
of hand last winter to the point where I was thinking about installing 
SpamAssassin, EL must have tightened their filters, because there was an 
abrupt drop in the amount of undetected spam that got through. It does seem 
to be starting to creep up again, though. One day at a time...

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Re: [newbie] The Linux virus myth

2004-07-27 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 03:39 pm, flesh.99 wrote:

 it's all above, folks

I'm not sure this is a good idea, guys. Ease of use is one of the main 
reasons for all of those rooted PC's out there that keep spamming us. It's 
also the main source of all of those emails to windows help lists that begin, 
Ever since I installed BlahBlah, my computer (runs slow/keeps going to porn 
pages/won't boot/makes my coffee taste funny). Even for a simple single 
user/home based PC, the act of having to enter the root password should point 
out the seriousness of that which is to follow. On any networked system, of 
course, user-installed software is a recipe for disaster.

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